This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam welcomes Founder, Speaker & Workshop Presenter, Ruthanne Warnick.
Ruthanne is a champion of the importance of sharing family stories, experiences, life lessons, and memories to connect generations.
As a speaker and workshop facilitator, family legacy guide, and certified Guided Autobiography instructor, Ruthanne is committed to helping families take action, avoid regret, and connect living generations with each other and the past. Her passion for generational connection and legacy through family stories is fueled by her 32 years of non-profit leadership experience in the Jewish communities where she has lived, her own family stories and experiences, and her educational background with a master’s degree in geography.
Ruthanne is the author of Say It Now: The Important Things – A Guidebook for Creating Legacy Letters of Life to Celebrate Those You Love and the creator of the Legacy Letters of Life and Love program.
Visit CapturetheJourney.com to connect with Ruthanne and receive 7 No-tech/Lo-tech Ways to Capture Family Stories Starting Today.
Join Sam and Ruthanne as they discuss the importance of legacy, and why it is so important to preserve our family history.
In today's episode, Sam starts by sharing a section from his book, "Everyday Awakening." The section is titled "The cure for judgment is owning our own humanity." Sam explains that judgment creates barriers between individuals and serves as a defense mechanism against things we don't understand. This passage was written in response to the heightened polarization in today's political and social climate in America. Particularly, in the aftermath of the pandemic, society has witnessed a surge in separatism.Sam emphasizes the importance of uniting to resolve environmental, societal, and economic crises’, especially in these challenging times. He stresses that collective efforts are crucial for navigating these difficulties successfully. If you're interested in reading more, you can find "Everyday Awakening" at www.everydayawakeningbook.com.
Sam is joined by Ruthanne Warnick, the founder of Capture the Journey. Ruthanne passionately promotes the value of sharing family stories, experiences, life lessons, and memories as a means of fostering intergenerational connections. Ruthanne added to Sam’s earlier take on judgment and its implications. She believes that overcoming judgment is not only a way to bring society closer, but on a smaller scale bring families together. Ruthanne's dedication to preserving family legacies and stories was fueled by the passing of her father. She realized the importance of being intentional about the stories we share and the significance of listening. Sam relates to this sentiment as he reflects on his mother and grandparents. Regrettably, he never had the opportunity to learn their stories, as they passed away before his birth. Ruthanne encourages people in the present to carry forward what they can and actively preserve their family's history.
Ruthanne felt a strong calling to share her message after hearing numerous people express regret for not asking their loved ones important questions while they still had the chance. This motivated her to become an instructor for guided autobiography, diving deeper into the significance of preserving personal stories. Ruthanne emphasizes the importance of documenting our family's stories and genealogy, not just for ourselves but for future generations as well. Sam and Ruthanne discuss how younger generations may not prioritize legacy as much as older generations do. Ruthanne attributes this to the awareness of mortality that comes with age, as people become more conscious of the potential loss of valuable family history. They also address the biggest obstacle in recording legacies, which is individual procrastination. Ruthanne refers to this tendency as the "Someday Syndrome."
Ruthanne primarily conducts group workshops as part of her work, rather than working with individuals or families directly. However, she plans to create a blog to make her expertise more accessible to a wider audience. Ruthanne shares that many people are motivated to seek her guidance after experiencing the loss of a loved one or when confronted with their own mortality as they age. She finds this work deeply fulfilling and recognizes that many individuals have the intention to preserve their family legacies but struggle to follow through. Ruthanne serves as a valuable resource to help people maintain consistency in this practice. Sam and Ruthanne also explore how cultural differences can impact the process of acquiring and recording family legacies. For those interested in reaching out to Ruthanne, she can be contacted via email at firstname.lastname@example.org. Additionally, more information about her workshops and some free tips can be found on her website capturethejourney.com.
00:00:36.730 --> 00:00:46.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon. Good evening. Good morning. Wherever you tuning in from welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity.
00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:57.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We've got a fascinating show in store for you today with a wonderful, wonderful guest.
00:00:57.710 --> 00:01:04.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But First, of course, we have our section of my book Everyday Awakening.
00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:09.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and this section is entitled
00:01:09.180 --> 00:01:15.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The Cure for Judgment is owning our own humanity. So let's get to it.
00:01:16.430 --> 00:01:28.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It can be difficult not to judge others. It can take a lot of restraint not to make someone else wrong for what they did or for what they think.
00:01:28.650 --> 00:01:43.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Really, when we judge, we are separating ourselves from others. Our judgments create barriers that protect us from getting too close. They even keep us from ever having to get close to the other person.
00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:56.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We declare them bad, different, and not as good as we are. For example, we might say they are a bigot, so we don't have to feel they're paying.
00:01:56.370 --> 00:02:00.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or they stole from us. So we don't have to see their need.
00:02:00.900 --> 00:02:05.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or they hurt us. So we don't have to recognize their humanity.
00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:15.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Having compassion for those we feel judgment towards, is not easy. It is a discipline that takes effort to develop.
00:02:15.440 --> 00:02:24.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It also means having to recognize that people are merely people. and we all have faults.
00:02:25.720 --> 00:02:33.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It means having to admit our own flaws. character, defects, and transgressions.
00:02:34.730 --> 00:02:39.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all have them. No one is above being human.
00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:43.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We've all made mistakes and errors in our lives.
00:02:43.230 --> 00:02:47.630 Perhaps we have learned from them, while others have not yet
00:02:48.730 --> 00:02:54.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: even so. we are more the same than we are different.
00:02:56.150 --> 00:03:10.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How can we continue to separate ourselves from our fellow human beings when we have done things just as bad or worse. Are we really so pure, so great, so special?
00:03:11.920 --> 00:03:16.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We are all tainted in some way, and that is beautiful.
00:03:16.900 --> 00:03:26.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because that is what can bring us together without judgment or blame. even for ourselves.
00:03:27.770 --> 00:03:34.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We are all human. one race. one people. one planet.
00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:43.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Where can you release judgment in your life. how can you see yourself as part of the greater whole?
00:03:45.170 --> 00:03:47.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So this
00:03:48.290 --> 00:03:49.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: section in my book.
00:03:50.010 --> 00:03:54.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I believe I wrote this probably pretty close to the beginning of the pandemic.
00:03:56.850 --> 00:04:02.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it really was a response to seeing
00:04:02.980 --> 00:04:10.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the division in our country interest in the world in general. even in just my own circle of friends.
00:04:12.180 --> 00:04:19.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how some people were so sure this was true, and other people so sure that was true, and and and how
00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:26.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: people started making people who didn't think the way they did wrong for just thinking differently.
00:04:28.810 --> 00:04:32.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And they really started to sit with like, how can we keep
00:04:35.200 --> 00:04:41.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: judging other people for so many things, so many things.
00:04:42.900 --> 00:04:50.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean superficially, yeah. People judge us by the way we look for our age, for color, of our skin for our orientation.
00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:59.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know people even judge you, for whether you're working or not, Are you married or not? I mean, just pick anything, and there's judgment around it.
00:05:01.050 --> 00:05:15.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and then I heard the the phrase one time that judgment is what keeps us separate. and it really sank into me because I just felt all this judgment that was flying around.
00:05:15.880 --> 00:05:18.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All it was doing was separating us.
00:05:20.980 --> 00:05:26.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I thought, you know. can't we all just be human beings.
00:05:27.410 --> 00:05:30.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean, look, none of us are perfect.
00:05:31.130 --> 00:05:42.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean i'm the pack calling the kettle block. I've made as many mistakes as many. I've had as many faults as is so many people out there.
00:05:46.670 --> 00:05:51.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't quite get why we can't just allow ourselves
00:05:51.530 --> 00:05:57.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to see other people as human beings like. Why is that so
00:05:57.540 --> 00:05:59.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: threatening to us?
00:06:01.550 --> 00:06:03.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A. And and and
00:06:03.470 --> 00:06:06.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know I kinda got it that
00:06:07.440 --> 00:06:15.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know that that this way of judging other people, of of separating ourselves from other people. It's a form of protection.
00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:23.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because as long as there's something wrong with this other person, as long as there's something I can judge you about as long as there's something I can make you wrong about.
00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:33.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I don't have to take care of you. I don't have sympathy for you. I don't have empathy for you. Your problems are your problems. They're not my problems.
00:06:36.850 --> 00:06:42.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I kind of feel like that's such a shortsided
00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: way of living life.
00:06:48.750 --> 00:06:58.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because I think if the pandemic taught us anything, it's that we're one people that one person's health is everybody's health
00:06:59.190 --> 00:07:05.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that we actually are so. We are our brothers keeper. We are supposed to take care of each other.
00:07:07.550 --> 00:07:12.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that by separating ourselves from others by making
00:07:12.910 --> 00:07:20.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and other someone wrong someone bad someone who you know we can. We can ignore.
00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:26.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're really just hurting ourselves. We're hurting our community. We're hurting our race.
00:07:28.640 --> 00:07:34.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And look, I'm not saying that people don't do horrendous things absolutely.
00:07:35.940 --> 00:07:39.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are people out there who should be in jail.
00:07:39.970 --> 00:07:47.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are people out there who've taken Van, who have taken advantage of, whose actions have led to the deaths of
00:07:47.990 --> 00:07:50.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, tons of people.
00:07:50.580 --> 00:07:54.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are people out there without a conscience absolutely.
00:07:58.580 --> 00:08:04.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But there's still our brothers and our sisters. They're still part of our human family.
00:08:05.740 --> 00:08:08.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and perhaps maybe
00:08:08.430 --> 00:08:12.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the way to get those people to change
00:08:12.700 --> 00:08:16.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is not by making them some
00:08:17.340 --> 00:08:19.800 caricature of evil.
00:08:21.990 --> 00:08:29.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but to see them for their humanity. to see them, for why they ended up where they are
00:08:31.340 --> 00:08:34.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: doesn't mean we condone their actions or behaviors.
00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:41.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But when it's not something so horrendous when it's not something so awful.
00:08:44.790 --> 00:08:51.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe we can find a way to have a little more compassion. Maybe we can
00:08:52.490 --> 00:08:55.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: find a way to actually care for other people
00:08:57.620 --> 00:08:59.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to just know that.
00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:04.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know humanity is is a much bigger family than we've
00:09:04.810 --> 00:09:06.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: ever considered.
00:09:08.450 --> 00:09:10.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that by coming together
00:09:10.980 --> 00:09:21.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: they taking care of each other by working together, by trying to build bridges and understanding, and find some commonality between us.
00:09:22.740 --> 00:09:27.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that we can be so much stronger for that.
00:09:30.560 --> 00:09:36.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know it's kind of funny. I I remember the beginning of the pandemic when I was doing my show.
00:09:39.890 --> 00:09:49.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it was just this intuitive feeling that came to me, and I said it over and over again, and I haven't said it for a while, I believe.
00:09:50.540 --> 00:09:52.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I said, look this pandemic.
00:09:53.830 --> 00:10:06.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This is just the first of many global challenges we're going to be facing. I don't know what they all are. I don't know when they're coming. It's just a feeling in my bones
00:10:08.300 --> 00:10:11.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that there are a lot of challenges awaiting us.
00:10:12.710 --> 00:10:15.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: probably because
00:10:17.740 --> 00:10:27.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we've been kicking the can down the road, so to speak. We've been taking what we're current day problems and pushing them off until tomorrow for so long
00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:31.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that eventually we have to deal with them.
00:10:33.190 --> 00:10:42.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so it's just this feeling that from an environmental point of view, from a economic point of view, from a societal point of view
00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:55.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that there were so many challenges in this world that we have to face up to that we that we've created by ignoring them in the past. and it's all coming home now.
00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:01.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And if we're going to get through these challenging times.
00:11:04.040 --> 00:11:15.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we really need to come together. They don't use the word need lightly. They are very few things in life we need. We need our breath. We need food.
00:11:15.460 --> 00:11:17.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: water, shelter.
00:11:20.640 --> 00:11:29.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We need community other than that. Everything else is a nice to have. you know, when when
00:11:29.740 --> 00:11:42.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when there's a problem with the Internet or or or or when you know, get a little frustrated, because i'm trying to get something I can't get. I I have to keep reminding myself. Oh, yeah, First world problems first world problems.
00:11:45.900 --> 00:11:51.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But you know, even this whole idea of first, second, third world even. That's a separation.
00:11:53.110 --> 00:12:04.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're one planet. you know, one of the amazing things, and I think it's something that's not talked about enough. One of the amazing things about the space program and going out into space
00:12:04.830 --> 00:12:18.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is is, if you read the accounts of of of Edgar Mitchell, or or or Lee Armstrong, or like any of the astronauts who have gotten far enough away to see the planet as one whole globe.
00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:32.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They'll tell you. There's this feeling that came over them. It's called the overview effect. like there are no borders on the planet. That's all artificial. You don't see any boundaries between countries
00:12:32.270 --> 00:12:33.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just the oceans.
00:12:35.410 --> 00:12:54.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's one world, one planet. It's the only planet we got right now. I mean, yeah, a lot of people talking about exploring. I love space exploration. I am a child of the Star Trek generation. I I always thought by now. Of course, we'd have a base on the moon, and we'd be colonizing Mars. And no, we're not there yet.
00:12:58.190 --> 00:13:10.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But for now. And even if we did have another planet, why can we take care of the one we're on. and taking care of the planet means taking care of each other.
00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Period. End of sentence.
00:13:15.940 --> 00:13:26.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The in the world where they are the biggest problems it's because we've ignored, taken advantage of, strip them of their resources and haven't taken care of them.
00:13:26.730 --> 00:13:30.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and we've benefited. We've all benefited from that.
00:13:32.990 --> 00:13:34.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So how about
00:13:34.990 --> 00:13:41.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we stop the judgment? We stop separating ourselves from the rest of the planet
00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and just admit we're human being.
00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Like everyone else, they're human beings.
00:13:49.940 --> 00:13:51.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We've all
00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:53.620 had our
00:13:54.000 --> 00:14:04.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: ups and downs or challenges or mistakes. We've all done things that maybe we're not so copacetic, not so great.
00:14:05.540 --> 00:14:09.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so maybe before we point the finger at someone else.
00:14:10.210 --> 00:14:13.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we look at ourselves just a little bit more.
00:14:17.170 --> 00:14:26.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and before we cast any stones we we we look at the glass house that we're living in, and we. you know, really
00:14:26.810 --> 00:14:32.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: examine ourselves so that maybe we can actually relate to others a little bit more.
00:14:33.640 --> 00:14:38.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Perhaps we can be a little more gentle, a little more kind, a little more compassionate
00:14:41.700 --> 00:14:43.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for those around us.
00:14:45.570 --> 00:14:52.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's why this section is called the cure for judgment is owning our own humanity.
00:14:54.930 --> 00:15:02.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So what can you do to own your humanity? Just a little bit more that'll be your homework for this week between now and the next. Show
00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:06.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Own your humanity and allow others their humanity.
00:15:07.750 --> 00:15:09.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that's the section of my book
00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:35.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: entitled the Cure for Judgment is owning your own humanity everyday awakening which you can find email@example.com. But of course, if you're like me, you know, I always say every week, go out to those small independent bookstores and ask them to order it. We're in all the major in major distributors, so that any any bookstore can get it. So just ask for everyday awakening by Sam Lee. What's
00:15:35.640 --> 00:15:38.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and hey? If you already have a copy, maybe
00:15:38.990 --> 00:15:52.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: recommend it to a friend, maybe give it as a gift, and if you have a copy I would love for you to go on Amazon and and give me a review. I I really appreciate it. That helps it to be seen more. And if you've gotten something out of it, you know, please share the wealth.
00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. Let's get back to the show.
00:15:56.420 --> 00:16:24.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I would like to introduce my my my guest, but you know what i'm overdue for a break, so let's go out for a break, and when we come back i'll introduce you to my guest for this week. So please stay tuned. You are listening to the conscious consult now are awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time and all over the social media platforms right here and talk radio that Nyc. And Streaming live on Youtube and Facebook, and Twitter, and linkedin
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00:18:53.400 --> 00:19:05.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. Now it is my pleasure to welcome to the show Founder, speaker, workshop, presenter, Ruth Ann Warnick
00:19:05.330 --> 00:19:34.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Ruthan is a champion of the importance of sharing family stories, experiences, life, lessons, and memories to connect generations as a speaker and workshop, facilitator, family legacy, guide and certified, guided autobiography. Instructor Ruth Ann, is committed to helping families take action, avoid regret, and connecting living generations with each other in the past. Her passion for generational connection and legacy through family stories
00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:48.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is fuelled by her 32 years of nonprofit leadership experience in the Jewish communities where she has lived, her own family stories and experience and her educational background, and a master's degree in geography.
00:19:48.880 --> 00:20:06.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Ruthan is the author of, Say it now. The important things a guidebook for creating legacy letters of life to celebrate those you love and the Creator of legacy, Letters of Life and Love program. Welcome to the conscious consult. Now, Ruthan.
00:20:07.090 --> 00:20:22.870 Ruthanne Warnick: Thank you, Sam. I I i'm gonna lead off with a couple of comments and things that came to mind when you were doing your segment about your book and judgment. One of them is that they're both related to stories.
00:20:23.060 --> 00:20:32.920 Ruthanne Warnick: One of them is in the more global sense, and one commentary is is in the more personal family sense, which is where I focus in my business. But
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:40.600 Ruthanne Warnick: you talked about judgment, and as someone who's Jewish. you know, anti Semitism is.
00:20:41.140 --> 00:20:59.250 Ruthanne Warnick: you will, I'll even say rampant right? I mean it's it's at a high level right now, and that is something that is solely based in my opinion on judgment. I mean it's all about judgment. And I I heard a Tedx talk one time, and the speaker was saying that
00:20:59.740 --> 00:21:14.710 Ruthanne Warnick: it's the stories that when we get to know each other individually that that can connect us, because once I know your story and you know my story right, then you become a. Who to me, and you're no longer a what to me.
00:21:14.750 --> 00:21:24.680 Ruthanne Warnick: and that really came right right up front and center when you were talking about judgment that we make, you know, global in a global way. I mean, we make them as as
00:21:24.860 --> 00:21:59.380 Ruthanne Warnick: individuals, about individuals as well. But we also make them about groups of people specifically pick this one from my book. I'm just going in order, and it just happened to be, and I I feel it's so apropos for for what we're going to talk about today. And the second thing that came up with, as it relates to families, because you also talked about faults, and admitting your fault. So that's one of the things that sharing family stories can actually do so. So if a story comes up or a situation comes up
00:21:59.380 --> 00:22:06.460 Ruthanne Warnick: with a child or someone in your family a story just to have the story to say. You know
00:22:06.630 --> 00:22:21.100 Ruthanne Warnick: I I once made a similar mistake, or I once did that. In other words, you're admitting that you're you're human, that as a parent or whatever your relationship is that you're not perfect. But it's also saying that our family
00:22:21.170 --> 00:22:30.760 Ruthanne Warnick: acknowledges and even embraces. You could say our mistakes that we've made, or things that we, you know we may not have been proud of the key is.
00:22:30.760 --> 00:22:53.960 Ruthanne Warnick: what did we learn from it? How did we move forward from it? And all of that? So that's what stories can can do within the family connections. So they both really resonated with me in the whole topic that you were talking about about judgment and faults and all that I said, oh, if we just know the stories we could solve all the world's problems and it and this bit funny how family
00:22:54.010 --> 00:23:11.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like are the ones who trigger us the most like a complete stranger, could almost say the same things to us that our family says, and and it would just roll right off our back. But when our family says it to us, that's like a most that that really hits our emotional buttons doesn't it.
00:23:11.750 --> 00:23:14.600 Ruthanne Warnick: Yeah, yeah, I just
00:23:14.660 --> 00:23:26.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, go ahead. I I was just gonna ask. I'm: Curious, how did this whole idea of preserving legacy and and and the importance of family and story? How how did this become like such a
00:23:26.600 --> 00:23:28.140 passion for you?
00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:36.350 Ruthanne Warnick: So if I had to pick a moment in time, if you will, I would say it was when my father passed away when I was 40.
00:23:36.350 --> 00:23:53.000 Ruthanne Warnick: Subconsciously I would say that as someone who's Jewish, the concept of generation to generation is front and center just within Judaism. So maybe it's just sort of in my subconscious from from birth, you know.
00:23:53.030 --> 00:23:59.660 Ruthanne Warnick: But I I would say, if I had to pick a time, a a moment in time, I would say, when my father passed away.
00:23:59.800 --> 00:24:08.000 Ruthanne Warnick: and I realized that you know I had my memories of him with with, you know, being his his daughter.
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:22.370 Ruthanne Warnick: and my relationship with him. But they they were our stories together, and my members They weren't really his stories, and you know his parents on on that side of the family were immigrants. So there were all of those stories.
00:24:22.370 --> 00:24:31.770 And then there was this little glimmer that we knew that there was some of the family that stayed in Europe, and they were killed in the hall, because, like there were all these stories of of
00:24:31.770 --> 00:24:47.680 Ruthanne Warnick: of just being lost. So I say the stories are the treasure, and when they leave with someone, and we don't get the stories they become, I call them like buried treasures, like literally right. They they are buried with the person, and
00:24:47.680 --> 00:25:03.900 Ruthanne Warnick: on top of of time going by and me, realizing how how we had to really be intentional about capturing these stories, and if if we were, and it would only be a couple of generations before they were, you know, released into the air, so to speak.
00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:16.000 Ruthanne Warnick: But some years later I found a letter that my father had handwritten, because back in the day that's that's what you did. He hand wrote me a letter shortly before my husband and I got married.
00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:24.850 Ruthanne Warnick: and he was sharing with me what makes a good marriage he was talking about respect and all sorts of different things. Now he happened to be
00:25:25.030 --> 00:25:43.460 Ruthanne Warnick: a matrimonial attorney, so he saw lots of lots of things that could go wrong. But so he was just sharing his thoughts and and welcoming my zoom to be husband into the family, and and I tucked it away, and I came across it, and it was so
00:25:43.460 --> 00:25:52.310 Ruthanne Warnick: emotional and profound to find that letter and those words, and they they weren't stories per se. But they were.
00:25:52.420 --> 00:25:56.300 Ruthanne Warnick: Oh, they spoke volumes about who he you know who he was.
00:25:56.300 --> 00:26:26.190 Ruthanne Warnick: and what he wanted to make sure he shared with me, and it it sort of blossomed from there like I obviously still have that letter now, but when I reread it it's like i'm revisiting with him. It's like I can hear him, you know, saying it. And and I came to understand like in an expanded way, how something like a letter could be expanded, and in today's day and age. It's so easy to also include video on a Yes video. But i'm in
00:26:26.190 --> 00:26:33.950 Ruthanne Warnick: pictures. If you wanted to include audio, I mean it could be as elaborate or as simple as you want it to be. But the point is
00:26:33.950 --> 00:26:49.240 Ruthanne Warnick: getting the the stories, the lessons like not just saying, here's my value. That? That's a statement. The story is, Where did that come from? Who did I learn that from those are the stories? So
00:26:49.700 --> 00:27:04.610 Ruthanne Warnick: So, in answer to your question. I would have to say that it kind of so if I again, if I had to pick a moment in time, I would say it was when my father passed away at 40, and then from there on, out, like all the questions I you know that that I had.
00:27:04.620 --> 00:27:11.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, wow, wow. Yeah, I I was fortunate that my mom
00:27:11.630 --> 00:27:17.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: passed away when she was 99 and a half. So it was just like 3 years ago.
00:27:17.660 --> 00:27:21.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and you know I really had
00:27:23.140 --> 00:27:38.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: an opportunity to talk to her and stuff, but it's now she's gone, and I mean, I know she told us lots of stories over the years. I don't know how many of them got captured, but you know all My grandparents died before I was born
00:27:38.920 --> 00:28:02.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of cancer actually, and and and before them I mean they were the first ones to came over. They were. They were fortunate they came over, I think you know, before World War one or something. But then there was a whole bunch of relatives in Russia and and Eastern Europe who who died during the holocaust, that we did find one branch of our family
00:28:02.310 --> 00:28:08.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in in Israel. My sister found them. But but I just think about like
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:26.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how much knowledge of of family history they had that's now lost like my my sister, my brother and I I mean we all know some pieces of it here and there, but it's never quite the same, because we didn't live it. And now, like there, there are not too many
00:28:26.950 --> 00:28:30.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cousins, you know. We don't have a big family. They're not too many cousins.
00:28:30.560 --> 00:28:36.190 Ruthanne Warnick: and then and there really very few people of her generation still around.
00:28:36.340 --> 00:28:42.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I just think about the the the experiences that are lost because of that.
00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:57.320 Ruthanne Warnick: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I I encourage people in the present to carry forward what they know, what they remember or what they you know what they can, and also to be intentional. And I I
00:28:57.460 --> 00:29:10.920 Ruthanne Warnick: emphasize that were to be intentional about capturing our own. If we still have living parents to capture those, or also to be sharing them in the present in the moment, because it's
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:24.780 Ruthanne Warnick: it's not like linear that's how I think of it. It's not just passing it down. It's really kind of circular, so we pass it down. We also have the opportunity. For instance, if your grandparents is July, we have the opportunity to pass it up.
00:29:24.780 --> 00:29:41.930 Ruthanne Warnick: You know our our stories, or what those people meant to us while they're still living, and I think of it as weaving the stories together, and not not the linear always passing it down. So it's a combination of of both of those.
00:29:41.940 --> 00:30:10.930 Ruthanne Warnick: And yeah, I mean, we we have, you know plenty of stories, but they the stories can be in the moment. It could be something that just slips in. It can be intentional. If you're going to interview someone there. There are many opportunities that just actually finished writing a chapter for a book that talks about this concept of being intentional, intentional about listening for the stories intentional about sharing the stories your own.
00:30:11.190 --> 00:30:14.650 Ruthanne Warnick: those, you know, even if they're no longer here.
00:30:15.870 --> 00:30:30.090 Ruthanne Warnick: and and and then recording them in some way so recording could be speaking. It could be, you know, zoom recording. It could be writing. I happen to be a fan of the written word, and the reason is that
00:30:30.760 --> 00:30:34.890 Ruthanne Warnick: you describe or tell a story
00:30:35.020 --> 00:30:40.620 Ruthanne Warnick: a bit differently in writing than you do when you're speaking right
00:30:40.700 --> 00:30:44.170 Ruthanne Warnick: in in writing, there's more of a conscious
00:30:44.200 --> 00:31:13.580 Ruthanne Warnick: depth that comes to it. And I don't mean you have to be a wonderful writer and elaborate and and and those kinds of things. It's just that when you're writing your you think of what you want to say in a different way than when you just when you're speaking, it just sort of is whatever comes out of your mouth. You know they're both valuable. Don't don't get me wrong, because in this chapter I talk about Sam about how
00:31:13.980 --> 00:31:33.140 Ruthanne Warnick: just even the the speaking and the sharing of the stories still gives your family, particularly your children, your grandchildren. It's, it grounds them right. It gives them a sense of belonging. And when people have like this core sense of belonging within their family.
00:31:33.140 --> 00:31:36.850 Ruthanne Warnick: then they can expand to belong in the bigger and bigger
00:31:36.850 --> 00:31:55.220 Ruthanne Warnick: world, right in the communities and in the world where they have that core sense of belonging, so just sharing the stories and knowing where where you know where you come from, and stories about your parents and all that. We think they're not listening, or they're not important, but they become part of them. So it is important.
00:31:55.290 --> 00:32:04.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, absolutely absolutely all right. It's time for us to take our next break when we come back. I would like to talk about.
00:32:04.360 --> 00:32:11.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know the importance of legacy like like. Why. why is it important for future generations.
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:29.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and why we should, you know, make the effort to capture these stories. And and then what are some of the we've already mentioned? Some of the ways. But you know, like, how how do you help? Facilitate that with people, and i'm i'm also still curious about sort of how you know you. We got what sort of
00:32:29.890 --> 00:32:47.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the seed of of Why, you kind of get on this path. But how did you actually come to start doing this? Yeah. Alright, so so everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now awakening humanity, and we will be right back with Ruth and Mornik in just a moment.
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00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:56.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity.
00:34:56.590 --> 00:35:11.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so, Ruth. And so we got what with the seed was of of why you got interested in legacy. How did you decide that like this is something important enough that you really want to focus your time and energy and helping other people to capture their legacy.
00:35:13.730 --> 00:35:34.000 Ruthanne Warnick: I would say that I just knew that I, that I had a message, and I also. I also knew that we have the best of intentions generally, that but procrastination is is a human trade. So for most people, and you know it's, you know. Someday I'm going to get around to it. And
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:49.280 Ruthanne Warnick: whenever the topic came up, what I noticed was how much regret, and how much yearning there was around people saying, I wish I knew more. I wish I had asked more questions. I wish you know. I wish, and I regret, I regret.
00:35:49.280 --> 00:36:08.560 Ruthanne Warnick: and I I realized that I could play a role in that in helping people be more intentional about it, even just starting with the acknowledgment that they have to be more attention about it. So, in other words, even just as food for thought, you know. And
00:36:08.560 --> 00:36:22.870 Ruthanne Warnick: and to you were talking about before, about like our faults and things. I have as much regret as the next person in terms of things I you know, didn't do questions I didn't ask, even after my father got even after I came to understand it. I still there's
00:36:22.870 --> 00:36:33.160 there's this: some day syndrome, I call it right, you know. Someday i'm gonna do that. I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna ask that, and you know, just some day slips away. So
00:36:33.160 --> 00:36:50.260 Ruthanne Warnick: I realized that I had a message, but that I also could actually help people be intentional about it. And I came across a program called a guided Autobiography, and I ended up being an instructor for that which you mentioned in my in my introduction.
00:36:50.260 --> 00:37:07.750 Ruthanne Warnick: I don't know about these, not just for families. It's for really, for communities of people, but it's based on themes in our lives. It's that doesn't focus on. Where was I born? You know. When did they come to the us, which is all great information, and it's their fun facts, as I call them.
00:37:07.750 --> 00:37:20.900 Ruthanne Warnick: But there's so much interest in genealogy today, but we but but the stories aren't there, so you're a leaf on the tree, but there's no there's no blossoms, so to speak, right. There's there's there are no stories, and so
00:37:21.020 --> 00:37:44.530 Ruthanne Warnick: it. It. It became clear that there was this this yearning, not just from people I spoke with, but you could see just by the the number of people who do genealogical research. So why are they doing that? What are they looking for? Right? It's you talked about like, Why is leg is the important? And why is it important for the future? Because it's that fundamental
00:37:44.750 --> 00:37:51.700 Ruthanne Warnick: craving, almost like this desire to belong to your family, to be connected in that way.
00:37:51.710 --> 00:37:52.770 Ruthanne Warnick: and that
00:37:53.340 --> 00:38:16.130 Ruthanne Warnick: that that repeats itself over and over again. Otherwise, why do we care who our great grandparents were? Why do we so notice we're searching for what what boat did they come? What ship did they come over on? And that's the data. But why do we want to know that? Because we want to belong to the stories ourselves. And so we're creating a gift now that
00:38:16.550 --> 00:38:28.160 Ruthanne Warnick: even current generations don't know they're looking for, and certainly it's a gift we can give to the future. So it's a combination of the data, as I call it, right? The fun facts. And then
00:38:28.460 --> 00:38:39.820 Ruthanne Warnick: what does that? What does that mean that my grandmother at 16 got on a ship, came to the Us without you know her left her family, and never went back.
00:38:39.850 --> 00:38:50.390 Ruthanne Warnick: What does that mean in our family like. So so it it can be doesn't always have to be that deep. It can also just be fun, like, you know, they can just be fun stories like
00:38:50.390 --> 00:39:02.190 Ruthanne Warnick: Oh, my! You know my father sailed around the world on the Sh. You know it. It could be anything. It could be adventures. It could be deep, it could be judgments, it could be faults. It could be lessons learned
00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:06.000 Ruthanne Warnick: it. It's it's all. It's all important.
00:39:06.510 --> 00:39:08.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so i'm curious.
00:39:08.600 --> 00:39:18.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know people of your generation in my generation. We're a little bit older, you know. We're not. We're not young ones.
00:39:18.530 --> 00:39:34.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but but i'm wondering about the young links like. Do you find that you know younger people, let's say in their twenties or thirties, are interested in legacy? Or is it more something that, as we mature an age a little bit that starts to become more important for us.
00:39:34.710 --> 00:39:50.880 Ruthanne Warnick: it's definitely the latter. As we age I would not underestimate. So so that goes back to we're creating a gift that they don't even know that they want yet, because if you're 20, you aren't going to know you want it till you're 50, right. But i'm gonna give it to you, anyway.
00:39:50.890 --> 00:39:54.070 Ruthanne Warnick: because you're not going to know it. So
00:39:54.080 --> 00:40:13.400 Ruthanne Warnick: So so there is that some sense of mortality that probably comes into it, although not everybody who does. For instance, legacy letters is looking at their own age because I've had young dads, do you know, participate? I've had a wide range of people participate. I've had people who are
00:40:13.670 --> 00:40:17.370 Ruthanne Warnick: nearing the end of life, but not
00:40:17.380 --> 00:40:25.430 Ruthanne Warnick: not at 90, I you know, at at maybe 35, you know. So there's there's lots of different reasons.
00:40:25.510 --> 00:40:31.250 Ruthanne Warnick: But I don't worry too much about. If the younger generation is interested or not
00:40:31.310 --> 00:40:35.350 Ruthanne Warnick: in receiving the stories, or even hearing the stories
00:40:35.710 --> 00:40:55.520 Ruthanne Warnick: we're. As I said, we're giving them a gift that they don't even know they're looking for, not just about what we leave behind. But even when we're telling the stories now from young childhood, we're creating that belonging for them that connection for them. So it becomes
00:40:55.550 --> 00:41:06.280 Ruthanne Warnick: them not just something that we leave behind. That's why I say it's not really linear it has to be sort of almost circular.
00:41:07.930 --> 00:41:14.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What are the biggest challenges with with capturing the legacy with capturing these stories?
00:41:15.180 --> 00:41:17.600 Ruthanne Warnick: The biggest challenge is
00:41:18.790 --> 00:41:20.100 Ruthanne Warnick: Procrastination
00:41:20.200 --> 00:41:24.890 Ruthanne Warnick: is not getting around to it. That's that's really the number one
00:41:24.930 --> 00:41:43.700 Ruthanne Warnick: cause the how to's in this day and age. First of all, if you have a pen and paper right, that's the most fundamental. But you have a phone. You have zoom. You have. I mean, Apps glor right? So it's the it's the commitment and the intention that is the biggest obstacle
00:41:43.700 --> 00:42:01.820 Ruthanne Warnick: there. There are some other things that might get in the way like maybe an older person doesn't really feel like they have any stories to share, and it's not that important. And who cares, anyway, and all of that? But the the not getting around to it is the biggest piece the next piece would be like.
00:42:01.820 --> 00:42:06.170 Ruthanne Warnick: How, where do I start like? Where do I even like? What questions do I even ask.
00:42:06.170 --> 00:42:25.850 Ruthanne Warnick: What am I? What is the end game. What am I hoping to accomplish, you know. So just trying to figure out where to where to start, and then what to do with all with it all, so that that can be broken down. But that can only come because you've made the the commitment or the intention, or the priority to do it
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:50.030 Ruthanne Warnick: right, because it's not. It's not necessarily about like publishing a book of your memoirs. Just about sort of capturing it. So it's there for the family right. Yes, it's it's about capturing it, and it's about sharing it intentionally in the in the moment, meaning for the living generations as well. So i'll give you an example of something we did in our family. When my mother turned 90,
00:42:50.080 --> 00:43:01.750 Ruthanne Warnick: I collect, i'd ask each of the children, so there were 4 of us, and then each of our spouses. So that's 8. And then the 9 grandchildren.
00:43:01.820 --> 00:43:17.960 Ruthanne Warnick: And we were each asked. I asked each of them to write a note basically a Mini letter. I'll call it 2 to mom Slash, grandma and say, what is it that I love about you, grandma? What is it that you taught me. What is it that what is my special
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:36.450 Ruthanne Warnick: memory of you? Whatever they wanted to say to grandma, so that we could compile them? And we put those letters together with some photos. We each got to submit 3 photos of our choosing, and we put all those together with the words, and presented that to
00:43:36.450 --> 00:43:54.780 Ruthanne Warnick: and it it was the most. It was the most wonderful thing for her to receive it, and know how much she mattered in the family to to each of us in our own way, and then, when she passed it's now a gift to ourselves, because we now have that
00:43:54.780 --> 00:44:09.420 Ruthanne Warnick: for our family. So again, so you're sort of passing it down. You're passing it up and passing it all around at the same time. So that's an opportunity. Lots of it doesn't have to be like the whole.
00:44:09.610 --> 00:44:23.980 Ruthanne Warnick: You know the whole Mcgilla, as we say it doesn't have to be a whole big thing absolutely. So. So we got to take our our last break of the show. So when we come back
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:37.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I would like to talk a little bit about like how you work with people, and sort of what what people should should expect or like what what sort of they should keep in mind about, You know, at least starting to consider this. Okay.
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00:47:33.640 --> 00:47:39.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: all right, Ruth Ann. So when do you find that that?
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:44.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, oh, quick question! So do you usually work with individuals or families.
00:47:45.180 --> 00:48:04.900 Ruthanne Warnick: So typically I I do it more in a group way, if you, if you want to think of it that way as workshops, so I do. Presentations to groups to organizations, you know, so I speak, on the topic. I also do workshops, my legacy, letters, workshop to to help people
00:48:04.930 --> 00:48:08.850 Ruthanne Warnick: capture what I call the important things.
00:48:08.910 --> 00:48:24.380 Ruthanne Warnick: Those are the 2 main ways that I work with people. I come to realize that to help people keep, added, if you will, that it's time for me to begin a blog that really kind of
00:48:24.380 --> 00:48:40.720 Ruthanne Warnick: keeps people it inspired and going. But the 2 main ways that I work with people are through my speaking opportunities, and also through my workshops. I am always available to work with someone one-on-one if they just know that they need that extra
00:48:40.720 --> 00:48:59.320 Ruthanne Warnick: time, or they don't want to be part of a group process, and they they want to get it done. But the the very first thing I say to people is, decide, decide that it's important to you, and then, if we have time now, I can, you know, share some ways to break it down. So so i'm just curious
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:13.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in terms of like, what causes someone to be interested in this? Is there usually some kind of life event, or is there something that happens that decides. Oh, yeah, this is something I I I want to do, or something I'm interested in.
00:49:14.470 --> 00:49:37.950 Ruthanne Warnick: It depends. You know, the the the age, old answer. It depends right? So a lot of times it's when there's a loss of, particularly if there's a loss of someone from an older generation like the loss of a parent or the loss of a grandparent, because now we're feeling that loss, and just not having the stories and all that just adds to the loss. So for some people it's about that
00:49:37.950 --> 00:50:05.940 Ruthanne Warnick: for others. It's just an aging thing like we're facing our own mortality, and you know there it it's true. We never know when our when our time is going to be up, so to speak. But there it does come a point in life where it's a fact that you have fewer years ahead of you than you have behind you, right? So you know. So there! There are life events, including our own event of aging.
00:50:05.980 --> 00:50:07.790 Ruthanne Warnick: But there can be.
00:50:08.060 --> 00:50:27.240 Ruthanne Warnick: I I would say the biggest driver for people is some form of Reg. That they didn't get from someone who's already gone. So now they're for them. It's important that they don't continue. You like to perpetuate the same as state, generation after generation. So that's pretty common. I mean, i'll say it's
00:50:27.240 --> 00:50:35.160 Ruthanne Warnick: age related, although not everyone who does. It is beyond the certain age. It's just where it becomes more
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:37.380 Ruthanne Warnick: conscious for you.
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:43.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What what gratifies you about doing this work so much, because I see it's a real passion for you.
00:50:43.770 --> 00:50:55.910 Ruthanne Warnick: What ratifies me is well, for one thing, it keeps me on track of doing my own work for myself and my home family. So that's number one. But what gratifies me is that
00:50:56.510 --> 00:50:59.480 Ruthanne Warnick: I I know how many people
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:07.790 Ruthanne Warnick: mean to do it meant to do it. but didn't do it. And so, if I can help people
00:51:09.600 --> 00:51:25.740 Ruthanne Warnick: make it a priority again, going back to that intention, and not hold their hand, but provide any kind of accountability, but also any kind of tools and resources and ways to make it
00:51:25.930 --> 00:51:37.540 Ruthanne Warnick: to bring it from this gargantuan thing to something that's tangible. Something they could do doesn't even have to be their own whole life store, like I don't even talk about life story.
00:51:37.650 --> 00:51:40.830 Ruthanne Warnick: I talk about stories of your life
00:51:40.900 --> 00:51:53.330 Ruthanne Warnick: right? So there it it's. It's a distinction that may seem like nuanced. But your your life story is like, you know, Memoir, whatever is, is a it's the big thing.
00:51:53.360 --> 00:52:02.560 Ruthanne Warnick: and stories of our lives can be focused. As I said before, with guide autobiography could be focused on themes. It could be focused on a person
00:52:02.710 --> 00:52:17.160 Ruthanne Warnick: like I lost my sister a year and a half ago, and so i'm creating something. Now that is really focused on her and stories around her. So there are many ways to break it down for people, and that's a that's
00:52:17.160 --> 00:52:32.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but but the greatest passion for me is if I can help people say Yes, you're right. I I'd have to do it. I I can't wait for some day anymore. So yeah, yeah, I I see Patty on the live stream, says storytelling by Kristen.
00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:38.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: fill a plane. I've already started recording my story about my family. Wonderful.
00:52:40.680 --> 00:52:43.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We just have a few minutes left.
00:52:43.340 --> 00:52:58.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I wanted to. It's probably too too long to to ask this question. Not enough time to ask this question, but but there are also sort of differences in culture. Right, like different people from different cultures, will sort of capture these stories in different ways, won't They
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:07.510 Ruthanne Warnick: they will, and also the the of importance attached to it can also pay a a huge role. So for
00:53:07.530 --> 00:53:10.300 Ruthanne Warnick: heritage, you know
00:53:10.310 --> 00:53:17.960 Ruthanne Warnick: cultural groups, there's a sense of heritage that comes along with it. Certainly in Judaism, which is.
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:30.950 Ruthanne Warnick: you know I mean it's. It's a little complicated, because it's a religion, and it's a culture, and it's a heritage. And then it's real, not really one culture. It's like 50 cultures, so it's a little complicated there. But
00:53:31.020 --> 00:53:31.890 Ruthanne Warnick: But
00:53:31.930 --> 00:53:41.580 Ruthanne Warnick: there are certain groups of people or kinds of people who are more drawn to it, because there's that sense of keeping that You know that heritage going.
00:53:41.580 --> 00:54:03.680 Ruthanne Warnick: But I will say that storytelling's been around, for you know, eons and eons. We just need to do it in a more intentional way. The the thing that's going on today in the world is that it's so common for families to be living so far apart from, and that's that's really a big issue like how you talk about being You're called the Conscious Consultant. Talk about being conscious
00:54:03.680 --> 00:54:20.340 Ruthanne Warnick: of of how we can capture and and share these stories. When we live hundreds and thousands of miles away, and our relationships are are scattered. And you it it's much harder to sort of pepper them in, you know, get the stories in, and then
00:54:20.460 --> 00:54:30.170 Ruthanne Warnick: So so it is a little more challenging. We're. On the one hand, it's easier today with technology. But on the other hand, it's more challenging because of this. this
00:54:30.170 --> 00:55:00.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: spread out geography that we yeah, I mean just a little bit before the show. My sister called me from Israel to to tell me something. My brother lives in Virginia Beach. He, my brother's kids, live up in the deep Washington DC. Area, and, like I. This summer I went out to the west coast for a while. I got together with cousins. I haven't seen in 30 years, because they're they're out there now. And so, yeah, it's we definitely are much more spread out to me.
00:55:00.170 --> 00:55:22.410 Ruthanne Warnick: It's hard to be spontaneous in the storytelling, and this story, which is another reason why we have to be more intentional about it, because what I call is like the family village. You know the the the family unit is just not what it use used to be where my whole family we grew up in the same area. But there's a flip side to that, too.
00:55:22.410 --> 00:55:43.380 Ruthanne Warnick: because when you live in the same area. You take it for granted that you all live there, so you also don't get around to it. So you have to be intentional either way, right? Right. So so, Ruth, and we're coming near the end of the show. So if people want to learn more about your work, your workshops, how would they find more information how they get in touch with you.
00:55:43.380 --> 00:56:00.860 Ruthanne Warnick: So 2 things always reach out to firstname.lastname@example.org the and just let's have a conversation. What are you looking for? In other words, and what are you hoping to accomplish? That's number one Also, please just download. I have a a a free download for people.
00:56:00.860 --> 00:56:10.940 Ruthanne Warnick: It's go to capture the journey.com You'll see it there. It's called 7. No tech low tech ways to capture family stories starting today
00:56:10.940 --> 00:56:35.160 Ruthanne Warnick: so they can just download that and get get some tips there and then. I just would love to have a conversation. So just reach out to me via email. Once you once you request that free download, you'll then get my tips and all sorts of other resources that I that I share that are helpful to people. Wonderful, wonderful! Well, Ruth, and thank you so much for taking the time to come on the show today. I really do appreciate it.
00:56:35.160 --> 00:57:05.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sam. It was it was wonderful, I I it was a great dialogue, and you make it easy to have a great conversation. So thank you for that.
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