EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam welcomes Martina Tisljar, founder of MediTap, Oxford Talks speaker, and EFT and Matrix Reimprinting Master Trainer whose work helps people quiet the mental noise that so often drowns out the inner voice.
Through her practice at Divine Self Awakening, Martina blends EFT, Matrix Reimprinting, meditation, and practical spirituality into a grounded body of work, informed as much by structured training as an EFTMRA Master Trainer as by her own hard-won experience. She teaches people how to reconnect with their intuition, regulate the emotions that hijack their choices, and build the kind of self-trust that holds up in real life, not just on retreat.
Martina’s turning point came when a serious misdiagnosis and the intense treatment that followed forced her to stop and get quiet in a way she never had before. In that stillness, she began to hear what her body and intuition had been trying to tell her all along. That experience shaped the clear path she now offers others, a way of moving from fear and overwhelm into grounded self-trust, so decisions come from truth rather than pressure. Her approach is refreshingly honest about what actually works. In her own words, “woo” is not a strategy. Real change requires regulating the nervous system first, before motivation or willpower can take hold, and real intuition only becomes audible when the stress and self-doubt around it begin to quiet.
Together, Sam and Martina explore what it takes to hear yourself clearly in a world full of noise. They discuss how fear and conditioning block intuition, the hidden cost of living by “should” and “must,” the power of a real “no” without guilt, and simple tools from EFT tapping to breathwork that help bring the system back to clarity quickly.
They also look at how MediTap combines meditation, breathwork, and tapping into a deeper emotional reset and why confidence that lasts begins with regulating emotion, not pushing through it. This episode is an invitation to slow down enough to hear what your own body and intuition have been trying to say, and to begin building a life that actually feels like yours.
Tune in and share your own questions and comments about how to hear your own inner voice on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page.
https://divineselfawakening.com/
In this opening segment, Sam Liebowitz reads a blog post on how the way we enter any relationship, whether with a partner, a new venture, a place, or ourselves, sets the energy that carries through its entire life, and he invites listeners to begin each new connection with mindfulness, clarity, and intention. He then welcomes guest Martina Tišljar, founder of Meditap and an EFT and Matrix Reimprinting master trainer, who shares how an unexpected angelic visitation two decades ago, followed by three days of luminous, effortless presence, launched her on a path of rebuilding her relationship with herself, her intuition, and reality itself. Martina describes learning to trust her inner guidance with the support of her angels, embracing her calling after becoming a mother, and later being brought to the brink of death after abandoning her own body's wisdom in the name of service, a story left on a cliffhanger until the next segment.
In this second segment, Martina Tišljar recounts how she gave in to a doctor's frightening Lyme diagnosis and heavy medication against her own inner knowing, which led to her organs failing, and how she then reclaimed her health by turning inward through silence, nature, breathwork, tapping, meditation, and intuitive detox. Emerging from that long quiet period, she developed a gentler approach that invites angels and the Divine Mother into her work, teaching that healing doesn't always require revisiting the past because pain and emotion are simply energy that can be met with presence, breath, and divine support. She closes with guidance for turbulent times, urging listeners to find the inner silence that suits them, reconnect with nature and the body, listen to their own intuition rather than waiting for spectacular signs, and gather in community, while sharing that her Own Your Inner Voice program and her work can be found at Divineselfawakening.com.
00:00:45.670 --> 00:00:56.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my Conscious co-creators! Welcome to another edition of the Conscious Consultant Hour, Awakening Humanity.
00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:06.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We have another wonderful show in store for you with an amazing guest.
00:01:06.690 --> 00:01:17.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm really looking forward to bringing her on. But first, of course, we have my blog post from a couple of years ago, just kind of taking them in order, and
00:01:17.990 --> 00:01:27.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, taking them one at a time, so I hope you'll appreciate this one. I think it's rather in alignment with what we're going to be talking about.
00:01:28.100 --> 00:01:33.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, today's blog post is entitled.
00:01:34.100 --> 00:01:37.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How we enter into a relationship?
00:01:37.570 --> 00:01:40.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Dictates the energy of it.
00:01:41.360 --> 00:01:44.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We form relationships with everything.
00:01:44.810 --> 00:01:48.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A new project. A career. A partner.
00:01:49.010 --> 00:01:53.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is not just about people in our lives.
00:01:53.940 --> 00:01:57.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For we are relationship-making creatures.
00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:05.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet we often don't give thought to how we form relationships.
00:02:07.300 --> 00:02:12.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to how we are in relationship with each other.
00:02:13.790 --> 00:02:17.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And what that relationship means to us.
00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:20.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All of this.
00:02:20.760 --> 00:02:25.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Creates the tone and the feeling of the relationship.
00:02:27.060 --> 00:02:31.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Though there is one factor we usually do not think about.
00:02:32.420 --> 00:02:37.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It can be the most important aspect of the relationship.
00:02:38.010 --> 00:02:43.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For it can govern how the relationship develops and unfolds over time.
00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:51.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And that is how we… How do we enter into the relationship?
00:02:52.850 --> 00:02:59.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How we start a relationship will determine a lot about the relationship.
00:03:00.880 --> 00:03:03.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do we enter into it timidly?
00:03:03.990 --> 00:03:05.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or thoughtlessly.
00:03:06.440 --> 00:03:08.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are we in a position of strength?
00:03:09.330 --> 00:03:10.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or of weakness.
00:03:14.050 --> 00:03:18.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is there an element of love in how we enter?
00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:26.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are we listening to our inner voice about how this relationship will feel?
00:03:27.900 --> 00:03:36.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All of these factors and more will govern how the relationship will evolve over time.
00:03:37.980 --> 00:03:48.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Normally, the energy around how we start a relationship will be the energy throughout the life of the relationship.
00:03:48.850 --> 00:03:56.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It does not matter whether it is a relationship with a new lover, a new business, a new diet.
00:03:59.720 --> 00:04:05.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The energy of how we start Carries on throughout it.
00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:14.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet, so often, we mindlessly enter into a relationship with something new
00:04:15.610 --> 00:04:20.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And do not pay attention to how we are starting it.
00:04:21.690 --> 00:04:24.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we are coming from a place of fear.
00:04:24.940 --> 00:04:28.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There will be a lot of fear in the relationship.
00:04:29.370 --> 00:04:33.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we come from a place of empowerment and confidence.
00:04:33.430 --> 00:04:38.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The relationship will evolve and further support our growth.
00:04:39.210 --> 00:04:46.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Most importantly, When we enter into a relationship with awareness and consciousness.
00:04:47.450 --> 00:04:51.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We will not encounter many surprises along the way.
00:04:53.400 --> 00:04:58.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thinking about why we are entering into the relationship.
00:04:58.660 --> 00:05:07.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And what we are contributing and receiving from the relationship is very important to do from the beginning.
00:05:08.490 --> 00:05:13.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The more unclear and fuzzy we are about the relationship.
00:05:14.060 --> 00:05:19.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The more likely it will go in directions we never expected.
00:05:20.690 --> 00:05:27.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Being clear about all of these aspects of a relationship from the start.
00:05:28.140 --> 00:05:31.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Will service throughout the entire life.
00:05:32.030 --> 00:05:33.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of the relationship.
00:05:34.820 --> 00:05:40.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Especially… In our relationship with ourselves.
00:05:40.960 --> 00:05:44.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have entered into it without awareness.
00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:48.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But now we can make a new choice.
00:05:49.270 --> 00:05:57.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To start a new relationship with ourselves that supports our growth, and our joy.
00:05:57.710 --> 00:06:02.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Regardless of how we have been with ourselves in the past.
00:06:02.810 --> 00:06:09.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Each day is a new opportunity to start a new relationship.
00:06:10.700 --> 00:06:14.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: With ourselves, and with everything.
00:06:16.320 --> 00:06:19.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let's start it in a mindful.
00:06:20.070 --> 00:06:21.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Conscious.
00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: An open manner.
00:06:25.350 --> 00:06:35.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So… This, concept… of… How we enter into a relationship.
00:06:36.470 --> 00:06:43.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Dictates the energy of the relationship was something I got introduced to
00:06:44.470 --> 00:06:48.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Probably 10 years ago, maybe more?
00:06:48.210 --> 00:06:52.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when I received my first human design reading.
00:06:52.730 --> 00:06:56.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This gentleman who I connected with.
00:06:57.930 --> 00:07:04.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I think I was his last human design reading in New York City before he moved to Hawaii to study a bunch more.
00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:24.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it was a really different kind of reading. Those people who have never heard of human design, it's a fascinating system that everyone I talk to who gets into it finds it extremely accurate and validating for the way they are in life.
00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But one of the things,
00:07:29.140 --> 00:07:32.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: this gentleman, his name is Steve, said.
00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:42.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: was to be more aware of how I enter into relationships, and to do it more mindfully.
00:07:44.030 --> 00:07:47.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And… it really stuck with me.
00:07:48.440 --> 00:07:52.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And every now and then, I go back, and I think about it, and I go over it.
00:07:52.460 --> 00:07:54.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I share it with people.
00:07:55.860 --> 00:08:04.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it's interesting, because when I talk about this idea with people, it's amazing how few people think about
00:08:05.180 --> 00:08:09.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What the energy is like when they're starting a new relationship with something.
00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:19.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And also, just how, in general, we tend to only think about relationships with another human being, usually a partner.
00:08:19.970 --> 00:08:38.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We don't think about what's our relationship to a new home, to a new business, a new project, a new job, a new location. Even we're going on vacation, right? We're in a temporary relationship with the place we're going to.
00:08:39.950 --> 00:08:43.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's our relationship to that purse… place?
00:08:46.540 --> 00:08:50.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, I have… my… my sister lives in Israel.
00:08:50.890 --> 00:08:53.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I've gone there many times to visit her.
00:08:54.180 --> 00:09:02.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And over the years, my relationship to Israel has changed and evolved and got more complex.
00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet still, I'd love to go there and visit the place.
00:09:08.860 --> 00:09:15.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I've been to California and the West Coast, even though I live in New York, many, many times during my life.
00:09:17.030 --> 00:09:21.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And that place has a special relationship inside of me.
00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, relationships are not just about
00:09:27.860 --> 00:09:37.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Our friends, our family, our lovers, our spouses… We're in relationship with everything.
00:09:39.260 --> 00:09:49.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are you writing a book? Are you creating a community? Are you doing something new for your business or your brand? Like, that's a relationship, too.
00:09:51.570 --> 00:09:55.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So once we realize we're constantly creating these relationships.
00:09:57.740 --> 00:10:06.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To understand, like, how we start, how we enter into… those were the words he used, how we enter into the relationship
00:10:07.410 --> 00:10:14.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Really says a lot about the relationship, and will really dictate the energy of the relationship.
00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So this blog post is really a call
00:10:21.260 --> 00:10:24.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To just be more mindful of that fact.
00:10:26.150 --> 00:10:32.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to truly… Be more conscious.
00:10:35.750 --> 00:10:39.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Of any relationship we start and we create.
00:10:40.640 --> 00:10:44.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And just… see whether that serves you or not.
00:10:47.750 --> 00:10:52.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, this is something he said to me years ago.
00:10:52.650 --> 00:10:59.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I started paying attention to it, but I started paying more and more attention to it over time.
00:10:59.950 --> 00:11:03.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And for me, I find that it's really true, what he said.
00:11:05.380 --> 00:11:07.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't know, will it be true for you?
00:11:09.410 --> 00:11:10.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Try it.
00:11:11.500 --> 00:11:16.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Next time you… Engage in something new.
00:11:17.430 --> 00:11:19.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Think about that relationship.
00:11:20.460 --> 00:11:27.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe you just bought a new book, and you're starting to read it. What's your relationship to that book, or to that story?
00:11:29.860 --> 00:11:33.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are you going to a movie? What's your relationship to that movie?
00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:37.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do you have certain expectations?
00:11:41.070 --> 00:11:50.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, relationships are not just about people relationships, although those are sometimes the most important ones to us, and I'm not…
00:11:51.050 --> 00:11:53.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Saying to neglect those.
00:11:55.430 --> 00:12:02.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You meet somebody new, they're an acquaintance, maybe through a business, maybe through a social event.
00:12:05.260 --> 00:12:07.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How are you entering into that relationship?
00:12:08.550 --> 00:12:15.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are you… entering into it from a giving position, or from a taking position? Are you entering into it
00:12:16.020 --> 00:12:23.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: With joy, or curiosity, or with reservation and concern.
00:12:25.380 --> 00:12:27.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Pay attention to that.
00:12:29.650 --> 00:12:34.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I'm not saying that there's one right way to enter into a relationship.
00:12:34.970 --> 00:12:39.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are a million different ways to enter into relationships.
00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:43.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because we have a million different kinds of relationships throughout our life.
00:12:45.900 --> 00:12:52.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But how intentionally and how mindfully we enter into that relationship.
00:12:52.500 --> 00:12:56.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can really, truly be helpful.
00:12:56.820 --> 00:12:59.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For the life of that relationship.
00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:07.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So… That's my blog post. It is entitled, How We Enter Into a Relationship.
00:13:07.790 --> 00:13:24.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: dictates the energy of it. And of course, you can always find my blog post at my personally branded website, theconsciousconsultant.com, and on the radio station's website at TalkRadio.nyc slash blog.
00:13:25.620 --> 00:13:33.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, now… It is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show Martina Tislar.
00:13:34.180 --> 00:13:49.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Founder of Meditap, Oxford Talks speaker, and EFT and Matrix reimprintering master trainer whose work helps people quiet the mental noise that so often drowns out our inner voice.
00:13:50.230 --> 00:14:03.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Through her practice at Divine Self-Awakening, Martina blends EFT, matrix reimprinting, meditation, and practical spirituality into a grounded body of work
00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:12.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: informed as much by structured training as an EFT MRA Master Trainer as by our hard-won experience.
00:14:12.950 --> 00:14:16.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She teaches people how to reconnect with their intuition.
00:14:16.810 --> 00:14:27.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Regulate the emotions that hijack their choices, and build the kind of self-trust that holds up in real life, not just on a retreat.
00:14:27.370 --> 00:14:46.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Martina's turning point came when a serious misdiagnosis and the intense treatment that followed forced her to stop and get quiet in a way she had never done before. In that stillness, she began to hear what her body and intuition had been trying to tell her all along.
00:14:46.550 --> 00:14:56.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That experience shaped the clear path she now offers to others, a way of moving from fear and overwhelm into grounded self-trust.
00:14:56.400 --> 00:15:00.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So decisions can come from truth rather than pressure.
00:15:00.930 --> 00:15:05.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Her approach is refreshingly honest about what actually works.
00:15:05.830 --> 00:15:14.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In her own words, woo is not a strategy. Real change requires regulating the nervous system first.
00:15:14.790 --> 00:15:27.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Before motivation or willpower can take hold, and real intuition only becomes audible when the stress and self-doubt around it begin to quiet.
00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:30.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Welcome to the Conscious Consultant Hour, Martina.
00:15:30.660 --> 00:15:33.449 Martina Tišljar: Thank you so much, Sam. It's a pleasure to be here.
00:15:33.450 --> 00:15:45.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's a pleasure to have you on. So, it sounds like even from the beginning, you took a… you were, in a way, I guess, forced to take a very somatic approach to things.
00:15:46.090 --> 00:15:50.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is this something that… Had to always, sort of.
00:15:50.360 --> 00:16:01.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: been something you were aware of? Like, were you always a very body-aware sort of child, or was this something that just, you know, developed when you faced this
00:16:01.900 --> 00:16:03.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Crisis, let's call it.
00:16:05.050 --> 00:16:22.389 Martina Tišljar: Well, interesting question. Now you give me, to think, about how was I as a child. Well, yeah, I was present, in my body, I was into sports, I loved sports, and…
00:16:22.390 --> 00:16:28.250 Martina Tišljar: I love to explore what can I do with my body, you know, I was a…
00:16:28.410 --> 00:16:38.559 Martina Tišljar: quite wild child. But, in one moment, I also…
00:16:38.730 --> 00:16:48.990 Martina Tišljar: begin to, be more, out of the body than inside of the body, because in one moment of my life, life
00:16:49.100 --> 00:16:51.989 Martina Tišljar: got intense. It was…
00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:57.689 Martina Tišljar: it was kind of hard. My teenage years, my 20s, it was kind of hard.
00:16:57.800 --> 00:17:05.329 Martina Tišljar: And one… Very huge event in my life changed everything.
00:17:05.859 --> 00:17:24.580 Martina Tišljar: 20 years ago, actually, an angel showed up in my room. Like, literally. I wasn't, like, trying to do anything. I wasn't, like, doing meditation. I wasn't, like, you know, it was, like, ordinary day, like any other day.
00:17:24.589 --> 00:17:26.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just out of the blue, an angel showed up.
00:17:27.220 --> 00:17:39.730 Martina Tišljar: Exactly. I was preparing to go to sleep, and I realized that something is changing in the room. I felt, like, this huge pressure. I could move.
00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:53.540 Martina Tišljar: And at one moment, the walls disappeared, and I found myself in some kind of, let's say, vision, or even different reality, different dimension.
00:17:54.590 --> 00:18:09.639 Martina Tišljar: And I got scared. Sam, I was so scared that I started to pray. I was like, oh my god, what is going on here? Like, somebody help! And in the moment when I started to pray.
00:18:09.990 --> 00:18:18.419 Martina Tišljar: I felt something inside of me, inside of my body. It's almost like something exploded in my spine.
00:18:18.690 --> 00:18:28.410 Martina Tišljar: And I felt this slight, inside of me, and then I saw this huge beautiful angel.
00:18:28.410 --> 00:18:29.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that…
00:18:29.290 --> 00:18:33.909 Martina Tišljar: It's almost, like, emerged from this ball of light.
00:18:34.320 --> 00:18:34.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:18:34.750 --> 00:18:39.280 Martina Tišljar: It was… Huge, beautiful angel with a sword in his hand.
00:18:41.040 --> 00:18:46.610 Martina Tišljar: And in the moment I saw it, all fear went away. Like…
00:18:46.930 --> 00:18:54.119 Martina Tišljar: all of the fear went away. I felt so calm, everything made sense in that moment.
00:18:54.570 --> 00:19:01.370 Martina Tišljar: And to cut the long story short, After that vision went away.
00:19:01.370 --> 00:19:08.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Quick question, the angel. Was it, like, your typical projection of an angel? Like, this huge being with wings.
00:19:08.210 --> 00:19:08.699 Martina Tišljar: It was…
00:19:08.700 --> 00:19:09.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: White robe.
00:19:09.600 --> 00:19:19.329 Martina Tišljar: beautiful, huge… it was a very bright, white light, so I saw it, like,
00:19:19.670 --> 00:19:25.429 Martina Tišljar: very strong light. I didn't see every detail of the angel.
00:19:25.780 --> 00:19:37.929 Martina Tišljar: It was huge, it had wings, and it… I remember the sword. For some reason, I remembered this beautiful sword, it was… it was like a light sword.
00:19:39.070 --> 00:19:43.719 Martina Tišljar: And… And then, in one moment.
00:19:44.100 --> 00:19:49.529 Martina Tišljar: I… I said something, it almost sounded like some kind of a vow.
00:19:50.060 --> 00:19:54.540 Martina Tišljar: it was almost something I know from… I knew from before.
00:19:55.050 --> 00:19:58.580 Martina Tišljar: And after I set it, I fell asleep.
00:19:59.310 --> 00:20:03.060 Martina Tišljar: Like, instantly. And the next day, I woke up.
00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:12.199 Martina Tišljar: in a totally different state of consciousness. Like, it lasted for 3 days, and it was… it was amazing.
00:20:12.320 --> 00:20:13.290 Martina Tišljar: Oh, wow.
00:20:13.530 --> 00:20:24.539 Martina Tišljar: It was beautiful. Like, I didn't have any question in my mind. Any kind of question. Like, it was this beautiful presence.
00:20:25.060 --> 00:20:31.390 Martina Tišljar: like… like, joyful. It's… it wasn't like…
00:20:32.290 --> 00:20:40.179 Martina Tišljar: how to say this. It wasn't, like, too much of energy, it was, like, very calm, joyful presence.
00:20:40.180 --> 00:20:43.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it wasn't overwhelming, it was just very peaceful.
00:20:43.850 --> 00:20:44.410 Martina Tišljar: Yes.
00:20:44.410 --> 00:20:45.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Very smooth.
00:20:45.730 --> 00:20:46.240 Martina Tišljar: Yes.
00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:51.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just out of curiosity, I mean, this just happened out of the blue, there was nothing weird going on in your life?
00:20:51.900 --> 00:20:54.169 Martina Tišljar: No, I didn't take anything, I didn't…
00:20:54.170 --> 00:20:54.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Dude!
00:20:54.550 --> 00:20:57.830 Martina Tišljar: I wasn't trying to do anything, like.
00:20:59.020 --> 00:21:04.570 Martina Tišljar: Like, nothing. And… like I said, it lasted for 3 days.
00:21:05.040 --> 00:21:20.660 Martina Tišljar: And it was amazing. Even colors look… looked more brighter. People stopped me on the street. Some people had this urge to come, to touch me. It was… I wasn't questioning anything.
00:21:21.380 --> 00:21:25.899 Martina Tišljar: these 3 days, but… Then I woke up.
00:21:26.150 --> 00:21:32.060 Martina Tišljar: And I woke up in the same consciousness we usually are, you know, like…
00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:37.579 Martina Tišljar: I was… what happened? And the questions started to pop in, and…
00:21:37.790 --> 00:21:38.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm. And…
00:21:38.670 --> 00:21:41.070 Martina Tišljar: I started to ask myself, what happened?
00:21:41.220 --> 00:21:45.450 Martina Tišljar: Am I going crazy? Did something happen with my brain?
00:21:45.450 --> 00:21:46.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So…
00:21:46.210 --> 00:21:52.510 Martina Tišljar: I wasn't, like, rushing into sharing the story or talking about it.
00:21:52.930 --> 00:21:59.040 Martina Tišljar: But… I realized that when something like that happened to you, you're not alone.
00:21:59.420 --> 00:22:00.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Like…
00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:05.300 Martina Tišljar: I was supported, and in one day, I just…
00:22:05.980 --> 00:22:11.619 Martina Tišljar: Talked about it with my best friend back then, and he was a doctor of psychology.
00:22:11.860 --> 00:22:21.640 Martina Tišljar: I was super relaxed, and I was like, this happened, that happened, and I was excited, actually, to share, but when I shared it.
00:22:22.230 --> 00:22:30.080 Martina Tišljar: I was worried. Okay, he's gonna judge me, he's gonna put me on some kind of medications… But…
00:22:30.270 --> 00:22:37.810 Martina Tišljar: thank God, he was so happy when he heard, about what happened to me. He was like.
00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:40.230 Martina Tišljar: I see the change in you.
00:22:40.360 --> 00:22:44.689 Martina Tišljar: I see that there's something very different.
00:22:45.190 --> 00:22:46.480 Martina Tišljar: Explore.
00:22:47.210 --> 00:22:56.110 Martina Tišljar: do something about it. And things started to change, like, some new people entered my life, like, books.
00:22:56.110 --> 00:23:13.169 Martina Tišljar: fall off the shelves. I started to read about angels, about spirituality, about things that were alternative, you know? I was raised as a Catholic. For me, that was something different, something new.
00:23:14.910 --> 00:23:22.300 Martina Tišljar: But… I needed a lot of time to fully, fully, fully embrace it.
00:23:22.580 --> 00:23:23.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:23:23.310 --> 00:23:24.910 Martina Tišljar: I started to see
00:23:25.330 --> 00:23:39.030 Martina Tišljar: energies, to feel things, to hear things. I started to write the conversations, and I got a lot of confirmations from people who are open to these kind of things, and it was like, yeah.
00:23:39.360 --> 00:23:43.169 Martina Tišljar: You have communication with, with, angels.
00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:50.350 Martina Tišljar: And like I said, it was, like, beautiful, it was amazing, but at the same time, I was like, I just want to be normal.
00:23:51.620 --> 00:23:54.239 Martina Tišljar: Let's, let's not talk even about it!
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:55.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So…
00:23:55.740 --> 00:24:08.250 Martina Tišljar: I needed something to help me to embrace it, to go through all of that, and angels actually helped me to find the tools.
00:24:08.930 --> 00:24:09.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:24:09.830 --> 00:24:25.810 Martina Tišljar: to regulate myself, to do something with my self-esteem. My self-esteem was super low, in that period of time. Like, even the idea of go out and stand
00:24:25.810 --> 00:24:32.699 Martina Tišljar: and talk about it was like, no, no, no, no. It was just something that sounded super impossible to me.
00:24:32.700 --> 00:24:33.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:24:33.390 --> 00:24:40.289 Martina Tišljar: So I started to explore things, and one of the first things that came my way was EFT.
00:24:40.780 --> 00:24:41.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It…
00:24:41.890 --> 00:24:47.880 Martina Tišljar: looked weird. You know, the tapping thing, EFT stands for Emotional Freedom Techniques.
00:24:48.740 --> 00:24:59.020 Martina Tišljar: But you know what? I was in this state, like, I'm gonna try everything, you know? Like, let's do some tapping. And when I started to use
00:25:01.270 --> 00:25:18.460 Martina Tišljar: this method, I started to feel better and better and better. And eventually, it helped me so much that I decided to learn more, and after a few years, I actually became even a trainer.
00:25:19.090 --> 00:25:20.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Huh, okay.
00:25:20.650 --> 00:25:30.349 Martina Tišljar: So yeah, that's… that's the main reason why I actually started to, work much deeper, with
00:25:30.490 --> 00:25:31.830 Martina Tišljar: other methods.
00:25:33.840 --> 00:25:39.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Got you. So during this time when you were exploring.
00:25:39.690 --> 00:25:46.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean, you said, like, different people came into your life, different things happened.
00:25:46.730 --> 00:25:56.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: were you having odd dreams? Did you feel like you should start meditating? Like, what kinds of things happened around that?
00:25:56.580 --> 00:26:02.720 Martina Tišljar: Yeah, I… I became curious… And… more quiet.
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:03.920 Martina Tišljar: I…
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:04.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:26:04.600 --> 00:26:10.429 Martina Tišljar: Started to spend more time with myself, I started to do meditations.
00:26:10.620 --> 00:26:17.200 Martina Tišljar: I wasn't even realizing that I was doing meditation in my teenage years.
00:26:17.420 --> 00:26:20.680 Martina Tišljar: Then I realized, okay.
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:34.100 Martina Tišljar: that was something I was exploring, I didn't even know I was doing it. So, I came back to the things that was, kind of fun to do when I was younger, so…
00:26:34.100 --> 00:26:53.430 Martina Tišljar: I started, to explore even some, breeding exercises. At that time, I was, training, Aikido, ki Aikido, so a part of, that martial art is also, breeding, key breeding.
00:26:53.430 --> 00:27:00.199 Martina Tišljar: So, I started to combine the key breathing with meditation, and…
00:27:00.730 --> 00:27:09.990 Martina Tišljar: I realized that when I'm very quiet, and when I'm very connected with myself, I… I'm…
00:27:10.210 --> 00:27:16.350 Martina Tišljar: starting to sensing things. Some visions started to come, and…
00:27:17.410 --> 00:27:30.590 Martina Tišljar: in one moment, I realized I know things about people. Like, information started to come, and I started to writing… write all of those, messages.
00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:32.730 Martina Tišljar: very…
00:27:33.380 --> 00:27:45.610 Martina Tišljar: slowly, I started to share them. And I was a little bit even scared, to be honest, like, if I share this message with this person, what will…
00:27:45.610 --> 00:27:55.210 Martina Tišljar: he should think about me, but the feedback was amazing. Like, how can you know this? How do you know this? Like…
00:27:55.440 --> 00:28:07.320 Martina Tišljar: But I… I really needed a time to really fully embrace it and to start doing the work with people, and angels were super supportive.
00:28:07.450 --> 00:28:11.379 Martina Tišljar: Very patient, and they were actually
00:28:11.800 --> 00:28:27.260 Martina Tišljar: They were the ones that told me, like, you're gonna do the workshops, you're gonna do this kind of things, you're gonna teach this, you're gonna stand and talk about those things. And I was like, no, no, no, the wrong address.
00:28:27.260 --> 00:28:28.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Like, come on.
00:28:28.450 --> 00:28:30.349 Martina Tišljar: Guys, I'm not doing it.
00:28:30.600 --> 00:28:39.659 Martina Tišljar: But they are, so supportive, unconditional, and when you have that kind of support, everything is possible.
00:28:39.660 --> 00:28:42.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, because it's almost like you…
00:28:42.470 --> 00:28:57.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you had to form a new relationship with yourself and with reality from your previous concept of what reality was. It just totally got shaken up, and you needed time to sort of integrate that.
00:28:57.590 --> 00:29:02.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that you could feel how to move forward to it in a…
00:29:02.940 --> 00:29:06.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In a proper way, I guess I could call it.
00:29:06.770 --> 00:29:18.409 Martina Tišljar: Yes, I loved that you started with all of this around relationships, because you said it beautifully, everything is a relationship.
00:29:18.450 --> 00:29:27.190 Martina Tišljar: So, yes, I needed to create a new relationship with myself, with my life, with everything I was doing.
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:34.169 Martina Tišljar: And… I was doing so hard to be, like, normal, to be accepted, to be loved.
00:29:34.340 --> 00:29:39.669 Martina Tišljar: Yeah. And… I wasn't even realizing that I'm not living the life.
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:41.510 Martina Tišljar: That is fulfilling.
00:29:42.150 --> 00:29:49.139 Martina Tišljar: Even after that experience, I needed a lot of time to… to stop and to…
00:29:49.260 --> 00:29:52.800 Martina Tišljar: tell myself, this is something I want to do.
00:29:53.290 --> 00:29:53.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:29:53.740 --> 00:29:55.130 Martina Tišljar: Like, even in one bone.
00:29:55.130 --> 00:29:59.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It speaks to your heart. It's like being able to accept that it speaks to your heart.
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:01.040 Martina Tišljar: Exactly.
00:30:01.190 --> 00:30:11.469 Martina Tišljar: And even in one moment, I remember, I was like, no, this is too much, it's better to work, I don't know, in corporate world, like, do this, do that.
00:30:11.590 --> 00:30:15.619 Martina Tišljar: But I started to feel unwell.
00:30:16.210 --> 00:30:21.789 Martina Tišljar: I started to feel like something is off, even in my body.
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.840 Martina Tišljar: And then I was like, okay, You need to change something.
00:30:26.270 --> 00:30:27.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:30:27.130 --> 00:30:30.410 Martina Tišljar: And one very, very interesting thing happened.
00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:32.210 Martina Tišljar: I got pregnant.
00:30:32.580 --> 00:30:40.339 Martina Tišljar: And… I… Had my son, And that changed me a lot.
00:30:40.560 --> 00:30:45.219 Martina Tišljar: I was like… I wanna be a mother.
00:30:45.760 --> 00:30:51.840 Martina Tišljar: that will… B… something…
00:30:52.460 --> 00:31:04.730 Martina Tišljar: so authentic and truthful that my son will learn from who I am, not from what I am saying. So, I… it was… it was like…
00:31:05.300 --> 00:31:21.489 Martina Tišljar: I have to decide this. I have to be who I am. I have to follow my path, and I decided to fully embrace everything, and I started to do the workshops, I started to do one-on-one work, and in one moment, it exploded.
00:31:22.220 --> 00:31:24.370 Martina Tišljar: really exploded.
00:31:24.850 --> 00:31:36.890 Martina Tišljar: And… You mentioned at the beginning, in one moment, I had… This very challenging,
00:31:37.790 --> 00:31:41.669 Martina Tišljar: a moment where I almost died, because…
00:31:42.010 --> 00:31:47.090 Martina Tišljar: I wasn't listening myself, my body, my intuition.
00:31:47.420 --> 00:31:50.469 Martina Tišljar: So even though I embraced
00:31:50.820 --> 00:32:02.790 Martina Tišljar: my work. I embraced my path, and I had a lot of fun. I had a lot of amazing years. But in one moment, I was so caught up in doing, in…
00:32:02.790 --> 00:32:11.290 Martina Tišljar: Running, and, oh, I must do this, I should do that, da-da-da, and I lost that connection.
00:32:11.600 --> 00:32:12.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh…
00:32:12.220 --> 00:32:14.839 Martina Tišljar: With myself, with my body.
00:32:15.670 --> 00:32:33.450 Martina Tišljar: And I wasn't listening. I wasn't even listening my angels. They told me, like, slow down, don't run so much, like, slow down. You're not okay. But I didn't have time not to be okay, you know? Like, I have work to do.
00:32:33.450 --> 00:32:34.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:34.860 --> 00:32:37.849 Martina Tišljar: Oh, I was thinking, I'm in service.
00:32:38.080 --> 00:32:38.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But…
00:32:38.610 --> 00:32:46.460 Martina Tišljar: slowly, I was abandoning myself. So, unfortunately, my body, was…
00:32:46.810 --> 00:32:49.240 Martina Tišljar: The one that told me, like, stop.
00:32:49.620 --> 00:32:50.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:32:51.150 --> 00:32:57.190 Martina Tišljar: And that was, point in my life where I needed to…
00:32:59.750 --> 00:33:02.790 Martina Tišljar: Let's, say, push the reset button.
00:33:04.670 --> 00:33:06.880 Martina Tišljar: To see what happened.
00:33:06.990 --> 00:33:16.400 Martina Tišljar: And how come, with all that intuition, with all that inner knowing, with all the tools I had, I found myself in a situation
00:33:16.510 --> 00:33:18.500 Martina Tišljar: We're almost, actually.
00:33:18.770 --> 00:33:19.600 Martina Tišljar: died.
00:33:21.420 --> 00:33:28.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'll tell you what, let's hold it there, let's keep them on suspense, and then when we come back, let's talk about
00:33:28.360 --> 00:33:32.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What happened and how you got out of that situation, okay?
00:33:32.730 --> 00:33:33.450 Martina Tišljar: Okay.
00:33:33.710 --> 00:33:45.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right, wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to The Conscious Consultant Hour Awakening Humanity. We do this every Thursday… every Wednesday, 12 noon to 1 p.m. New York time.
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:59.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: right here on TalkRadio.nyc and all over social media, and we'll be right back. Oh, and before I forget, I see loyal listener Bahar is tuning in from Facebook. Bahar, glad to see you're still following us. Thank you so much.
00:33:59.110 --> 00:34:04.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We'll be right back with our guest, Martina Tislar, in just a moment.
00:35:18.970 --> 00:35:27.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, Martina, our audience is on the edge of their seat. Obviously, you didn't die, because you're still here with us, so what happened?
00:35:28.730 --> 00:35:30.470 Martina Tišljar: like…
00:35:31.030 --> 00:35:48.950 Martina Tišljar: I started to feel unwell, and in one moment, I collapsed. So, in that moment, I just knew I had to visit the doctor, I had to do something, and I went to a doctor, I did some, tests, and tests came back.
00:35:49.080 --> 00:36:04.669 Martina Tišljar: quite bad, and the doctor told me, like, you have Lyme disease with overgrowth, with some other bacterias, we have to put you on a very heavy medication for several months. And he started to talk about all of that, and I was like.
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:12.349 Martina Tišljar: No. Like, everything screamed inside of me, like, no, it cannot be, there's something wrong.
00:36:12.550 --> 00:36:14.179 Martina Tišljar: In what he's saying.
00:36:15.350 --> 00:36:26.929 Martina Tišljar: But he was so persuasive. My husband was there, and he was looking at me, and he was like, you have to be responsible, you're not feeling well, you have.
00:36:26.930 --> 00:36:27.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: have to take.
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:31.549 Martina Tišljar: the medications. And the doctor was saying, like, there's no other way.
00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:35.470 Martina Tišljar: And in that moment, I was thinking about…
00:36:35.860 --> 00:36:43.200 Martina Tišljar: my work, my son, you know, like, I have to show up, I have to show up every day, so…
00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:46.289 Martina Tišljar: And the fear was loud.
00:36:46.680 --> 00:36:52.759 Martina Tišljar: The fear was so loud, and the noise from the outside was so loud that I gave in.
00:36:52.940 --> 00:36:57.459 Martina Tišljar: And I didn't listen. What my body, my intuition was telling me.
00:36:57.490 --> 00:37:13.510 Martina Tišljar: I took the medication, and after a few weeks, it got worse, worse, and worse, and I needed to do more tests, and it was devastating. Like, my thyroid, my kidneys, my liver all started to fail. Like, I was in a really bad shape.
00:37:13.820 --> 00:37:19.699 Martina Tišljar: I couldn't go out, I couldn't walk for a long time. It was really bad.
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:24.349 Martina Tišljar: And… the last doctor I visited, she told me, like.
00:37:24.470 --> 00:37:32.729 Martina Tišljar: girl, you're a goner. Like, directly into my face, like, like, you're a goner! Like, you're not gonna survive the next cold. And I was like.
00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:45.729 Martina Tišljar: Okay, now, now, now I'm done. Like, I'm not listening to this. Like, I'm done. I'm not doing doctors anymore, I'm not taking any medication, so, like, I threw all that away.
00:37:45.730 --> 00:37:56.209 Martina Tišljar: I was not even scared in that moment. I was actually angry. I was angry, Sam. I was angry at myself for not listening, myself, my body.
00:37:56.210 --> 00:37:57.460 Martina Tišljar: At the first place.
00:37:57.460 --> 00:38:02.010 Martina Tišljar: So, I started to… Listen.
00:38:02.890 --> 00:38:05.410 Martina Tišljar: I became very quiet.
00:38:05.860 --> 00:38:07.360 Martina Tišljar: when I…
00:38:07.690 --> 00:38:24.040 Martina Tišljar: had strength when I had energy, I went out into nature, I did the breathing exercise, I did everything I know. Like, tapping, meditation, breathing exercises, like, I did everything.
00:38:24.950 --> 00:38:45.529 Martina Tišljar: And I even changed my diet. I started to follow my intuition. Like, I said, many books came in my life, like, even in that period, one book came into my life about a detox, how to do a detox, how to change your diet. So, I was doing all of that.
00:38:46.170 --> 00:38:52.030 Martina Tišljar: And few months after, one day I woke up, And I just knew.
00:38:52.450 --> 00:38:57.779 Martina Tišljar: somehow, I just knew, I'm okay. I'm… I'm… I'm okay.
00:38:57.860 --> 00:39:00.990 Martina Tišljar: I felt different in my body, I needed…
00:39:01.020 --> 00:39:19.519 Martina Tišljar: more time to recover, like, completely, like, mentally, emotionally, because, you know, I started to question everything. Like, I was teaching people how to connect with their guides, how to connect with their intuition, and in a very crucial moment of my life, I was ignoring it. So, you know?
00:39:19.540 --> 00:39:23.200 Martina Tišljar: What to do now? How will I teach? Anything?
00:39:23.450 --> 00:39:24.390 Martina Tišljar: You know?
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.970 Martina Tišljar: So… I was… Quiet.
00:39:28.290 --> 00:39:29.929 Martina Tišljar: For a long time.
00:39:31.030 --> 00:39:40.280 Martina Tišljar: I was observing, I was noticing what is going on inside of me, what is going on around me, and little by little.
00:39:40.830 --> 00:39:49.410 Martina Tišljar: angels, like, pushed me. Okay, now it's time. Now it's time. You were too long in this silence, like, now it's time to move.
00:39:50.580 --> 00:39:59.480 Martina Tišljar: And… I realized that everything I was doing before, I still love EFT. I still love the work.
00:40:00.030 --> 00:40:00.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:40:00.630 --> 00:40:08.300 Martina Tišljar: But… I needed something more gentle, something… Different?
00:40:08.810 --> 00:40:09.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:40:09.380 --> 00:40:24.580 Martina Tišljar: And I started to explore, like, combination, like, not even tapping. I started just to touch, touch the acupressure point of my body. I start to combine,
00:40:24.780 --> 00:40:43.910 Martina Tišljar: breath, like, I started to count my breaths. I combine it with meditation, and of course, everything I do, I do with my guides. I always invite angels, and somehow, in one moment.
00:40:46.040 --> 00:40:52.640 Martina Tišljar: Something else came into my life, and the presence of Divine Mother.
00:40:53.750 --> 00:40:54.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh.
00:40:54.220 --> 00:41:01.470 Martina Tišljar: Like, in one moment, spontaneously, I had one session, and I was a little bit stuck.
00:41:01.720 --> 00:41:02.690 Martina Tišljar: In it?
00:41:03.680 --> 00:41:06.409 Martina Tišljar: And… I didn't know what to do.
00:41:06.520 --> 00:41:12.129 Martina Tišljar: I didn't know the answer. And I'm a very good in what I do, like…
00:41:14.220 --> 00:41:15.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I was like…
00:41:16.380 --> 00:41:18.930 Martina Tišljar: I don't know what to do. I really don't know.
00:41:19.810 --> 00:41:22.000 Martina Tišljar: And Divine Mother showed up.
00:41:22.260 --> 00:41:28.890 Martina Tišljar: And it was one of the best sessions I had in my life. It was beautiful, it was amazing.
00:41:29.130 --> 00:41:36.170 Martina Tišljar: And… after that moment, I… inviting her in everything I do.
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:37.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:41:38.300 --> 00:41:41.969 Martina Tišljar: And… Something is different.
00:41:42.230 --> 00:41:43.870 Martina Tišljar: When she's present.
00:41:44.570 --> 00:41:45.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:41:46.290 --> 00:41:49.359 Martina Tišljar: I don't know what exactly is happening.
00:41:49.690 --> 00:41:50.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But it's…
00:41:50.300 --> 00:41:51.200 Martina Tišljar: there.
00:41:51.620 --> 00:41:52.440 Martina Tišljar: bowl.
00:41:52.850 --> 00:41:58.070 Martina Tišljar: And… One thing that came… is…
00:41:58.250 --> 00:42:03.459 Martina Tišljar: like, of course, we all have parents, right? We all have mothers. Right.
00:42:04.950 --> 00:42:11.060 Martina Tišljar: But on a deeper level, many of us are actually parentless.
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:13.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:42:13.010 --> 00:42:18.080 Martina Tišljar: Many of us, Actually, don't have… Mother.
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.780 Martina Tišljar: Don't have father, right?
00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:22.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So…
00:42:22.070 --> 00:42:25.640 Martina Tišljar: That emptiness… It's there.
00:42:25.750 --> 00:42:31.719 Martina Tišljar: I have my mother. I didn't have a very good relationship with my mother for a long time.
00:42:31.990 --> 00:42:43.939 Martina Tišljar: But in one moment, it started to grow, it changed, and today, I have the best relationship with my mother. I love my mother, I adore her, she's amazing, right? But when I was younger, it was…
00:42:44.410 --> 00:42:51.240 Martina Tišljar: Not good. Yeah. So, this hunger… this… this void.
00:42:52.260 --> 00:42:59.330 Martina Tišljar: I have a feeling that with Divine Mother in her presence, something shifted.
00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:11.300 Martina Tišljar: it's not that I'm hungry for love, that I'm hungry for, you know, like, like, please love me, please see me, please accept me.
00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:13.740 Martina Tišljar: And…
00:43:13.930 --> 00:43:24.890 Martina Tišljar: I started to combine all of that, and I started to, share that with, my groups, with… in my one-on-one,
00:43:25.030 --> 00:43:26.250 Martina Tišljar: Sessions.
00:43:27.300 --> 00:43:31.559 Martina Tišljar: And I loved it. It was amazing. It's… it's gentle.
00:43:31.750 --> 00:43:39.979 Martina Tišljar: You know, with EFT, matrix frame printing, you usually, when you work around something, one of the main
00:43:40.450 --> 00:43:46.969 Martina Tišljar: Ways of… Finding a resolution is to find
00:43:46.970 --> 00:44:06.380 Martina Tišljar: the cause, right? So, very often, we travel in the past, you know, where is the cause? What happened? What happened, I don't know, in your childhood? What happened in uterus? What happened in past life? Etc, et cetera, right? And then you do the work around it, and you have a resolution.
00:44:06.750 --> 00:44:14.939 Martina Tišljar: And… I realized that we don't have to do the heavy lifting always. We don't have to!
00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:33.380 Martina Tišljar: visit all of those moments in our lives to heal ourselves. Everything is energy, right? So, even the pain is the energy, emotion is energy. So, sometimes it's enough to connect with that.
00:44:34.620 --> 00:44:40.720 Martina Tišljar: Breathe through it, maybe do some tapping, and invite
00:44:41.180 --> 00:44:47.339 Martina Tišljar: Like, this beautiful, powerful presence, that it's there for us.
00:44:47.500 --> 00:44:53.639 Martina Tišljar: Right? It can be angels, it can be Divine Mother, it can be somebody else for someone else.
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:55.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:44:55.120 --> 00:44:55.440 Martina Tišljar: Yes.
00:44:55.650 --> 00:45:11.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So when people come to see you for a session, what are they looking for in general? Are they looking for healing? Are they looking for messages from loved ones who've passed? Are they looking for messages from their angels? What do they come to you for?
00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:27.360 Martina Tišljar: Well, they come for the messages, some come for healing, and I always laugh, usually when I do the workshops, you know, especially people who come very often.
00:45:28.070 --> 00:45:35.840 Martina Tišljar: my main goal is to help them to have that connection, not to listen what I see and sense.
00:45:36.390 --> 00:45:48.710 Martina Tišljar: I'm very passionate about, like, guys, you have that connection. Connect. You can hear your angels, you can hear whispers of your own soul. Like, do the work.
00:45:48.710 --> 00:46:02.640 Martina Tišljar: And almost every time, at the end of the workshop, like, like, please, give us some messages, like, like, please, share, what do you see, what do you, you know, like, like, people just love that. So, yeah.
00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:16.689 Martina Tišljar: Most of the time, people come to me for readings, and in one moment of my life, I had, like, super long waiting lists, so I even stopped doing it for a while, you know? I was…
00:46:17.050 --> 00:46:19.340 Martina Tišljar: Like, yeah, it's beautiful.
00:46:20.670 --> 00:46:36.599 Martina Tišljar: like, you… at the beginning, you mentioned human design. Yes. Like, one time, somebody actually, did that for me, and I'm the one in 1% of
00:46:36.780 --> 00:46:38.999 Martina Tišljar: I don't know the names of…
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:40.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: your reflector?
00:46:40.210 --> 00:46:49.100 Martina Tišljar: Yeah, there's… yeah, most mediums and people who have these kind of abilities are in that 1%.
00:46:49.100 --> 00:46:49.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So…
00:46:49.970 --> 00:46:52.600 Martina Tišljar: So, that explained a lot to me.
00:46:52.810 --> 00:46:53.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Mmm.
00:46:53.640 --> 00:47:01.790 Martina Tišljar: it's… it's kind of cool, but I really do believe that even though… okay, I'm, like, in 1%, but…
00:47:01.940 --> 00:47:04.810 Martina Tišljar: You know what, Sam? I think we all can do it.
00:47:04.810 --> 00:47:05.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I think.
00:47:05.780 --> 00:47:07.819 Martina Tišljar: We all have that connection.
00:47:07.820 --> 00:47:15.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What do you think is the biggest challenge for people to hear their own angels, to hear their own guidance?
00:47:16.310 --> 00:47:24.929 Martina Tišljar: It depends, but one of… Sometimes, I can see how…
00:47:25.120 --> 00:47:27.849 Martina Tišljar: Big of a desire can be.
00:47:27.990 --> 00:47:30.780 Martina Tišljar: Huge expectation.
00:47:31.350 --> 00:47:37.749 Martina Tišljar: And… I have seen it so many times, you know? People are trying to…
00:47:37.820 --> 00:47:45.189 Martina Tišljar: Hear something, to see something, and they are missing what is there for them.
00:47:45.220 --> 00:47:59.309 Martina Tišljar: Because we are all different, you know? I can see it, I can sense it, I can hear it. Some will, you know, have only, like, this inner knowing. Maybe they will not have any kind of visions or something.
00:47:59.310 --> 00:48:00.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:48:00.370 --> 00:48:07.050 Martina Tišljar: the inner knowing is there, and they will miss it, because they want to have, I don't know, some spectacular visit.
00:48:07.050 --> 00:48:07.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right, right.
00:48:07.870 --> 00:48:08.520 Martina Tišljar: around.
00:48:08.520 --> 00:48:09.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I think experience, right?
00:48:09.970 --> 00:48:10.760 Martina Tišljar: Yes, yes.
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's… like I often say, you know, they're…
00:48:14.010 --> 00:48:27.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 4 or 5 different clairs, like clairaudian, Clairsentient, claircognizant, Claire, clairvoyant. And I'm… I consider myself kind of claircognizant.
00:48:27.200 --> 00:48:36.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't see things or hear things, or feel things, but I sometimes just know things. And I don't know how I know them, but it just… it's just there.
00:48:36.770 --> 00:48:38.860 Martina Tišljar: Exactly, exactly.
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, so, I'm curious,
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:58.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In today's world, where there's so much change happening, so much disruption, things are changing at breakneck speed faster than they've ever changed in hundreds of years.
00:49:00.470 --> 00:49:07.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's challenging for a lot of people. I'm curious…
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:13.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Like, what your guides say about the best way to navigate through this intense period.
00:49:16.340 --> 00:49:25.969 Martina Tišljar: very often, they talk about silence. Very often, they are saying, like, like, be silent. Like, like, touch the silence.
00:49:26.340 --> 00:49:32.770 Martina Tišljar: Like… It's different for… different people. Some of us
00:49:32.860 --> 00:49:52.069 Martina Tišljar: are capable to touch the silence even when we are walking in… on the street, right? I'm not that… that one. I need… I need a safe space, I need, like, quiet space, and I love meditation. For me, meditation is essential.
00:49:52.070 --> 00:50:02.930 Martina Tišljar: And sometimes some breeding exercises. So it's very important for each one of us to find a way that suits them. So, like.
00:50:03.340 --> 00:50:11.830 Martina Tišljar: For someone, it will be a walk in nature. For some, it will be maybe tapping, maybe some other method.
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:15.209 Martina Tišljar: I believe that we all
00:50:15.470 --> 00:50:17.950 Martina Tišljar: Have something we can connect with.
00:50:18.300 --> 00:50:21.520 Martina Tišljar: It's not like one shoe fit all, so…
00:50:21.520 --> 00:50:21.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:50:21.910 --> 00:50:25.380 Martina Tišljar: It's important to find what is that for.
00:50:25.600 --> 00:50:35.100 Martina Tišljar: And there is one more very important thing that they are saying very often, like, comeback…
00:50:35.870 --> 00:50:50.470 Martina Tišljar: home. Like, connect with nature. Like, connect with nature. Connect with natural rhythm of everything. Like, they have said to me, like, that we are losing that connection.
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, absolutely.
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:59.589 Martina Tišljar: And it's very, very important to come back, to connect with mother, to connect with our bodies.
00:51:00.140 --> 00:51:02.030 Martina Tišljar: And… yeah.
00:51:03.230 --> 00:51:03.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No.
00:51:05.910 --> 00:51:17.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You've been through a lot in your life. You've had a lot of changes. I mean, your whole world got turned upside down. It sounds like now you're in a really good place, but…
00:51:18.150 --> 00:51:34.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: does anything challenge you today? I mean, you know, when you're having to deal with things, is any aspect of what you're doing now challenging, or have you really just come to a place of complete surrender, and you're, like, just enjoying life?
00:51:35.140 --> 00:51:47.690 Martina Tišljar: Of course there are still things that are challenging me. I… I'm not sure will I ever come to a place where, you know, like… well, hopefully, maybe, I don't know. But…
00:51:47.890 --> 00:52:03.829 Martina Tišljar: like, I really love what I do, I'm super relaxed about what I do, like, this conversation with you would not be possible a few years ago, you know? I wouldn't be able to do it. I would say no, like, like, I'm not doing it.
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:13.320 Martina Tišljar: Today, I feel super relaxed, like, like I'm enjoying these things. But there is something that it's still quite challenging for me.
00:52:13.420 --> 00:52:24.660 Martina Tišljar: And actually, somebody asked me the same question a few days ago. I was thinking about it, like, okay, what's the challenge? Now I know the answer.
00:52:26.150 --> 00:52:34.280 Martina Tišljar: In very intimate connections, like with my family, my child, my partner, my friends.
00:52:34.860 --> 00:52:40.510 Martina Tišljar: Sometimes, I can lose… My voice?
00:52:41.110 --> 00:52:41.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Huh.
00:52:42.170 --> 00:52:48.759 Martina Tišljar: when I'm very intimate, it's almost like I don't have this energetic immunity in those moments.
00:52:49.370 --> 00:52:53.749 Martina Tišljar: So, I need time.
00:52:54.030 --> 00:53:00.210 Martina Tišljar: you know, if somebody is saying, like, do this, you should do that, or, you know, I'm gonna consider it.
00:53:00.650 --> 00:53:05.459 Martina Tišljar: And very easy, I can… I can disconnect with myself in the.
00:53:05.460 --> 00:53:06.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Those kind of situations.
00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:18.819 Martina Tišljar: then I need to stop, and I need to take time to spend some time with myself, and to really, like, okay, breathe, Martina. What is beneath? Do you really feel this…
00:53:19.260 --> 00:53:25.679 Martina Tišljar: is your authentic truth. So, yeah, this is still challenging.
00:53:25.680 --> 00:53:40.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, this is something where human design can actually be very helpful, because human design will tell you what your authority is, and like, what do you need to do to really be in alignment with your design, with how you're.
00:53:40.290 --> 00:53:41.060 Martina Tišljar: Cheers.
00:53:41.060 --> 00:53:46.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: shaped, so I would still recommend you find a human design person and get a thorough reading.
00:53:47.190 --> 00:53:48.770 Martina Tišljar: Thank you, I will.
00:53:50.550 --> 00:53:58.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, so, what do you do for people today? I mean, are you still doing workshops? Are you still doing readings? You're still doing healings?
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:10.679 Martina Tišljar: Yes, I still do… doing healings, I'm doing workshops, right now, I don't have, workshops in my schedule, but I will.
00:54:11.040 --> 00:54:22.429 Martina Tišljar: One of the things that I love, I was invited to Oxford, Oxford University. I filmed Own Your Inner Voice program.
00:54:22.430 --> 00:54:36.729 Martina Tišljar: So, that it's something I'm releasing, and I'm kind of passionate about this team, because I really do believe that one of the most important things today is to listen to ourselves, to follow that inner guidance.
00:54:36.980 --> 00:54:39.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
00:54:40.240 --> 00:54:52.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, Martina, it's been wonderful having you on the show and having you share your story with my audience. If people want to learn more about you, get in touch with you, how do they find you?
00:54:52.800 --> 00:55:05.679 Martina Tišljar: The easiest way is to find me on the website, Divineselfawawakening.com. There, you have all the information, social media, and everything else.
00:55:05.680 --> 00:55:09.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And do you work virtually or just in person with people?
00:55:09.750 --> 00:55:11.530 Martina Tišljar: I work virtually as well.
00:55:11.530 --> 00:55:14.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, so you can work with people literally all over the world.
00:55:14.450 --> 00:55:16.789 Martina Tišljar: Yes, I can, yeah, yeah.
00:55:16.990 --> 00:55:18.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is there any…
00:55:19.370 --> 00:55:35.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: message you've been… besides the connecting to nature that you mentioned before, are there any messages that you've been getting from your guides lately that you feel in this moment are particularly important to just share with our audience before we close out?
00:55:38.310 --> 00:55:43.940 Martina Tišljar: I wasn't thinking to share this, but…
00:55:44.560 --> 00:55:52.110 Martina Tišljar: They were saying to me that, things will be turbulent. They are, warning,
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:56.070 Martina Tišljar: Me and people for quite a long time.
00:55:56.890 --> 00:56:08.879 Martina Tišljar: And, they're saying that it's very important to be connected, to find your tribe, to…
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:19.899 Martina Tišljar: You know, hold hands, and let's get back to, you know, like, brothers and sisters, and communities, and…
00:56:20.010 --> 00:56:24.810 Martina Tišljar: It will be one of the most important things to…
00:56:24.940 --> 00:56:27.460 Martina Tišljar: I would say survive in this turbulent.
00:56:27.690 --> 00:56:29.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Times. Yeah.
00:56:29.870 --> 00:56:35.730 Martina Tišljar: So, guys… Hold your hands together.
00:56:36.110 --> 00:56:43.159 Martina Tišljar: Listen to yourself, come back to Mother Nature, and let's go back to basics.
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:46.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sounds good to me, sounds good to me.
00:56:46.950 --> 00:56:56.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Martina, thank you so much for taking the time out of your evening to come on the show. I really appreciate you, and appreciate
00:56:56.360 --> 00:57:09.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the struggle you've had with, sort of, your whole concept of reality being blown apart and coming back together, so I really want to honor that and really thank you for your service.
00:57:09.990 --> 00:57:13.829 Martina Tišljar: Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Sam. It was a pleasure to be here.
00:57:14.110 --> 00:57:19.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful. And of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, like Bahar.
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:36.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for tuning in week after week after week. I so appreciate every single one of you, because without you, there is no show. And of course, don't forget, if you did miss any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on TalkRadio.nyc.
00:57:36.590 --> 00:57:54.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or on your favorite podcasting platform, like Apple and Spotify, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Amazon, wherever you listen to podcasts, you can find the Conscious Consultant Hour there. And, I believe I have, like, over 500 episodes out on podcasts right now, so,
00:57:55.110 --> 00:58:03.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you all for tuning in, I truly appreciate it. I want you all to take care, have a good week, and we will talk to you all next week.
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