EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Award-Winning Author, International Speaker and Leadership Coach, M. Teresa Lawrence.
Teresa is the founder and president of the Trueness Project, a non-profit dedicated to empowering children and adults to cherish their imagination and own their power to write their own narratives.
As part of her mission, Teresa is donating her award-winning transformational children’s book GLORIOUSNESS to disadvantaged children throughout the world.
In 2023, Teresa participated in the Kenya Kenynote Speakers Tour and had the privilege of speaking extensively about the need to teach leadership and wealth consciousness in schools. During that trip, Teresa mentored over 12,000 Kenyan students.
For her philanthropic work and vision, Teresa received an honorary doctorate in Kenya for her humanitarian work in community building and advocacy.
Teresa is also the co-author of The Power of Leadership where she discusses the power of the “Leadership of Play.” It is about living life outside the box, finding joy in simple acts of kindness, and believing in the power of imagination.
She is presently working on the Grand Butterfly Gathering scheduled for June 29, 2024 where her nonprofit will host the largest number of people dressed as butterflies in history both in person and virtually.
Teresa has been featured in the San Francisco Post, the California Observer, World Reporter and Scholar Media Africa.
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Segment 1
Sam opens with a timely blog post revealing that chronic busyness is not a badge of productivity but a defense mechanism — a way we unconsciously avoid sitting with uncomfortable feelings — and gently invites listeners to begin rebuilding the muscle of presence, one mindful pause at a time. He then welcomes Sarah Roccisano, a former Wall Street and renewable energy professional who, after being laid off three times and feeling the soul-draining weight of corporate New York, answered a profound inner calling that led her to leave her 22-year career, travel to over 43 countries, and step fully into a life of spiritual exploration and adventure. The conversation moves into Sarah's first ayahuasca experience with the Shipibo tradition in the Amazon — a seven-ceremony journey that began with a joyous awakening, a visceral sense of coming home to her higher self, and a liberating message from the medicine: that nothing truly matters except love, the highest vibrational frequency of all.
Segment 2
Sarah recounts the harrowing intensity of her seventh and final ceremony — a full-bodied purge of personal and collective trauma, a cracking open of the third eye, and visions of ancient Egyptian archetypes — which ultimately resolved into a profound revelation about the compassion of God, delivered not through mystical vision but through the simple, wordless embrace of a stranger in the dark. Returning home to a locked-down New York City just as the pandemic began, she found herself navigating a disorienting in-between world — freshly awakened, jobless, and increasingly unable to accept the narratives being handed to her — using solitary walks by the East River, creative writing, and a deepening commitment to inner sovereignty as her tools of integration. Her upcoming book Stone Temple Passport and the growing Embolden Adventures platform are the living fruits of that transformational journey, and her guidance to those feeling the call is beautifully simple: begin by cultivating stillness, reconnecting with nature, and trusting that when the student is truly ready, the teacher — in whatever form — will appear.
00:00:35.290 --> 00:00:58.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators! Welcome to another edition of the Conscious Consultant Hour, Awakening Humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We've got another wonderful show in store for you, with a beautiful guest. I will be bringing her on in just a moment.
00:00:58.690 --> 00:01:03.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But first, of course, we have my blog post from a couple of years ago.
00:01:03.270 --> 00:01:08.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I have a feeling probably an apropos one, as they always are.
00:01:08.250 --> 00:01:11.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So today's blog post is entitled…
00:01:12.380 --> 00:01:18.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Busyness is the result of not wanting to feel our feelings.
00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We are all busier these days.
00:01:22.670 --> 00:01:26.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Life seems to be moving so quickly.
00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It can feel like it is hard to catch our breath.
00:01:31.330 --> 00:01:34.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet busyness is not the problem.
00:01:34.850 --> 00:01:38.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Busyness is merely the symptom.
00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A symptom of something deeper.
00:01:44.910 --> 00:01:52.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because we do not often take the time to ask, Why are we so busy?
00:01:53.460 --> 00:01:55.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We basically take it for granted.
00:01:56.130 --> 00:02:01.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Everyone else seems so busy, why shouldn't we be busy too?
00:02:01.820 --> 00:02:04.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Which totally misses the point.
00:02:04.970 --> 00:02:06.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Actually.
00:02:07.100 --> 00:02:15.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The first point being that we are the ones who have control over how busy we are or aren't.
00:02:16.570 --> 00:02:20.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Our busyness comes from our choices.
00:02:21.170 --> 00:02:28.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There might be some external factors that influence our time and how much we feel we have to do.
00:02:28.650 --> 00:02:38.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet, ultimately, we are the ones who make the decision each and every day as to whether we will engage in the activities at all.
00:02:39.420 --> 00:02:45.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We may not like the consequences, but there are always other choices.
00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:55.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The second point is to look at the underlying reasons why we choose to do so much in our lives.
00:02:55.800 --> 00:03:00.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Why we choose to be so active and so busy all the time.
00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:07.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Would it not make more sense for us to give ourselves more time to relax?
00:03:07.530 --> 00:03:09.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To enjoy life?
00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:13.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Of course it would. So why don't we?
00:03:14.050 --> 00:03:22.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The simple answer is that we are afraid to just sit and be with ourselves.
00:03:23.030 --> 00:03:29.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That we are actually terrified to not be doing something all the time.
00:03:30.590 --> 00:03:41.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because if we are not doing anything, we have to just be with ourselves and feel what we have been avoiding feeling.
00:03:42.410 --> 00:03:45.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Therein lies the true answer.
00:03:45.950 --> 00:03:52.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To just sit and do nothing is much harder than we imagine.
00:03:54.650 --> 00:04:05.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For us to turn off all the distractions, not look at our screens, and just sit down and breathe can be more challenging than any of us suspect.
00:04:06.230 --> 00:04:13.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have been going, going, going for so long that we have gotten used to not giving ourselves a break.
00:04:15.040 --> 00:04:18.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A break to just stop and feel for a change.
00:04:19.750 --> 00:04:31.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Perhaps there is some anxiety, depression, worry, fear, guilt, shame, or any one of a hundred other emotions that we are afraid to feel.
00:04:32.450 --> 00:04:34.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we take the time to stop.
00:04:35.070 --> 00:04:45.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and start to feel what is going on inside us. The floodgates might open, and the feelings could become overwhelming.
00:04:46.820 --> 00:04:48.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So how can we stop?
00:04:49.810 --> 00:04:55.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: With such a fear driving us, how can we take a moment to just be?
00:04:56.850 --> 00:05:01.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The real question to ask Is how can we not?
00:05:02.870 --> 00:05:08.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For those unfelt emotions are still there, waiting for us.
00:05:08.190 --> 00:05:11.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Building up, day after day.
00:05:11.620 --> 00:05:15.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Our busyness does not make them go away.
00:05:15.170 --> 00:05:17.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It only delays the inevitable.
00:05:19.460 --> 00:05:25.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet, if we can just stop, even for a moment, and start to feel a little bit…
00:05:25.650 --> 00:05:27.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Then we have made progress.
00:05:28.310 --> 00:05:33.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A little at a time, we can learn to be comfortable feeling again.
00:05:33.870 --> 00:05:36.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Even those uncomfortable feelings.
00:05:38.060 --> 00:05:41.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We do not have to do it all at once.
00:05:42.490 --> 00:05:52.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But if we want to be less busy in our lives, then we have to get used to taking a moment to feel what it feels like to just be.
00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:57.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Looking for distractions when we feel uncomfortable is normal.
00:05:58.510 --> 00:06:02.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is okay not to want to feel something right away.
00:06:03.260 --> 00:06:11.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The trick is to be more conscious and aware of that decision, and not let it rule our lives.
00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Learning to be comfortable to just sit and feel.
00:06:16.840 --> 00:06:20.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is a great way to be less busy.
00:06:22.180 --> 00:06:26.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So how are you using busyness to distract yourself from feeling?
00:06:26.770 --> 00:06:30.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can you give yourself some space to just sit and feel?
00:06:32.140 --> 00:06:45.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, I wrote this blog post, a couple of years ago, And… It really came from…
00:06:46.620 --> 00:06:51.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: seeing it in people that I work with, and also seeing it in myself.
00:06:52.260 --> 00:07:00.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that… How… how easy and how much We distract ourselves.
00:07:01.930 --> 00:07:10.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, having the phone ever-present, always scrolling through something, answering text messages, responding to emails.
00:07:11.080 --> 00:07:23.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's like, ever since… I mean, this was already happening before the pandemic, but it sort of feels like since the pandemic, things have accelerated tremendously.
00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:31.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Where people just can't stand To not just sit and be.
00:07:35.380 --> 00:07:39.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And we're literally living in an epidemic of distraction.
00:07:41.080 --> 00:07:59.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Every day, you can see people. I cannot tell you how many times I have gone to a restaurant with my wife, and we're talking, and we look at the other tables in the restaurant, and everybody at the table is on their phone, and not talking to the person that's right in front of them.
00:08:03.950 --> 00:08:07.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But a lot of people I've worked with have said.
00:08:07.990 --> 00:08:13.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Like, they feel so busy in their lives, they just can't stop doing, doing, doing.
00:08:14.030 --> 00:08:25.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And whenever I say, well, why can't you just sit and relax for a little while? Oh, no, I can't do that, because I have to do this, and I have to do that, and I have a kid, and I have this, and I have that, and I have that. And I'm like.
00:08:26.060 --> 00:08:31.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I understand, but those aren't reasons why you can't stop and do something.
00:08:31.900 --> 00:08:34.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Those are just excuses why you aren't.
00:08:40.490 --> 00:08:49.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So… I really wanted to… to just express in this blog post and share it with you all today.
00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:52.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I understand.
00:08:53.130 --> 00:08:59.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can't go from being totally distracted to totally present in our lives. Doesn't work that way.
00:08:59.960 --> 00:09:04.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's a muscle we need to rebuild. We used to have this muscle.
00:09:05.310 --> 00:09:10.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But when things get too difficult, too challenging, too traumatic.
00:09:11.260 --> 00:09:14.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all check out. It's nothing unusual.
00:09:15.230 --> 00:09:17.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But as adults, we can start.
00:09:18.280 --> 00:09:26.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to practice. Just… Just getting back into presence with ourselves.
00:09:27.900 --> 00:09:30.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let alone other people.
00:09:31.100 --> 00:09:36.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But if we can just learn to start and sit with ourselves for 5 minutes.
00:09:39.500 --> 00:09:44.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just, just, just take 5 minutes, once an hour, or once every couple of hours.
00:09:44.580 --> 00:09:50.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You don't have to be on your phone or on the computer all the time, constantly, every day.
00:09:50.950 --> 00:09:52.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All day long.
00:09:53.060 --> 00:09:54.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can take a break.
00:09:58.410 --> 00:10:08.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now, look, when there are emergencies, there are emergencies. You know, if you're dealing with a sick family relative, and you gotta be on call, like, that's perfectly understandable.
00:10:09.130 --> 00:10:12.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But that's not most of us, and that's not most of the time.
00:10:17.030 --> 00:10:26.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And the thing is, the more used we get to being distracted, the harder and harder and harder it is for us to learn to be present with each other.
00:10:27.210 --> 00:10:33.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then we really start to lose one of the most precious aspects of life.
00:10:36.580 --> 00:10:40.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, look, I'm not saying you gotta go from 0 to 60 in one second.
00:10:41.970 --> 00:10:47.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But just start to notice… First, how distracted are you really?
00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:53.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then once you notice how distracted you are.
00:10:54.260 --> 00:10:57.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Then just find little ways to pause.
00:10:57.840 --> 00:10:59.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Take a breath.
00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:06.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Don't rush from one meeting to the next meeting, from one task to the next task, from one project to the next project.
00:11:06.930 --> 00:11:08.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Take a moment.
00:11:08.400 --> 00:11:10.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just be with yourself.
00:11:10.790 --> 00:11:15.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Take a breath and feel, like, is there some anxiety there?
00:11:17.810 --> 00:11:20.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is there some concern, some worry?
00:11:21.150 --> 00:11:25.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do you have some thoughts in the back of your head that you've not been paying attention to?
00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:38.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, this is a call… To be gentle with ourselves.
00:11:38.780 --> 00:11:43.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But to recognize Where is our attention going?
00:11:44.290 --> 00:11:47.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Why are we making the choices that we're making?
00:11:48.170 --> 00:11:52.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can… when we can stop and reflect on those things.
00:11:52.680 --> 00:12:02.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Then we can learn to be more empowered. Then we can learn to make different choices. Then we can learn to show up a little differently.
00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:08.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, so that's my blog post for this week. Again, the title is…
00:12:08.900 --> 00:12:14.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Busyness is the result of not wanting to feel our feelings.
00:12:14.370 --> 00:12:26.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And of course, you can always see my blog on my personal website, theconsciousconsultant.com, or on the station's website at talkradio.nyc slash blog.
00:12:26.690 --> 00:12:35.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, now… It is my extreme pleasure to welcome Sarah Rokosano?
00:12:36.230 --> 00:12:54.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. World traveling author, international speaker, way-shower, and founder of Embolden Adventures. Several years ago, Sarah left a tenured career in finance and renewable energy across Wall Street and corporate America to undergo a profound personal transformation.
00:12:54.830 --> 00:13:00.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: From the depths of the oceans, to the heights of the mountains, to the ancient megalith.
00:13:00.660 --> 00:13:19.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: megalithic sites, and everywhere in between, she has explored over 43 countries, wow, you're my hero, and more than half of the United States, each journey deepening a two-decade spiritual awakening shaped by wisdom keepers, the natural world, and the call to adventure.
00:13:20.090 --> 00:13:29.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Through Embolden Adventures, Sarah has built an encouragement platform that inspires personal, professional, and spiritual transformation.
00:13:29.790 --> 00:13:42.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Her forthcoming book, Stone Temple Passport, Awake and Radiate with Mama Ayahuasca, will be coming out later this year, in the first of her Embolden Adventure Transformational Series.
00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:50.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A true story travel memoir that weaves together sacred sites, plant medicine, and the inner pilgrimage of becoming
00:13:50.970 --> 00:14:03.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of becoming. Sarah's path reflects what happens when we trade the certainty of a conventional career for a deeper certainty of following the soul. Welcome to the Conscious Consultant Arrow, Sarah.
00:14:04.190 --> 00:14:10.200 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Hi, Sam, thank you for having me, and hello, everyone. How exciting! What an introduction. Thank you.
00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:17.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You're so welcome, you're so welcome. It's a pleasure to connect and have you on the show. So, so, of course, I have to ask, like.
00:14:17.570 --> 00:14:27.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what sort of initiated that transformation? Like, how did you go from just a normal person with a normal career into somebody, you know.
00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:35.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Traveling the world, 43 countries, oh my god, and… and… and getting so deep into this…
00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:38.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: spiritual world we live in.
00:14:39.180 --> 00:14:54.709 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Well, I guess the question is, what's normal, right? Right? Are we… are we all the same? Are we all gonna be the same construct, the same sort of stay in order, and do what you're told, and listen to the external world pushing you around? And I think your blog post
00:14:54.710 --> 00:14:59.669 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: is really answering the question, right? It's about a war on your consciousness, and the…
00:14:59.670 --> 00:15:16.609 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: constant addiction to being busy. And I think that has a lot to do with giving your power away to the external world, and informing and complying. So I think a lot of that is just us, like, learning to be in the matrix.
00:15:16.610 --> 00:15:33.890 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: and be in a situation where the world around us provides, and we give our sovereignty up for that in return. So I think it was thrusted upon me to change my life. The world around me was rejecting me. I got laid off 3 times.
00:15:33.890 --> 00:15:43.129 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: in the 20-plus year career. On paper, it looks amazing, but, you know, living and working in New York City, you know, has its trade-offs, and it really can drain
00:15:43.130 --> 00:15:52.379 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yep. Your consciousness and your soul. So, I think the, result was me seeking and listening internally to the call and trying not to be busy, while the busy.
00:15:52.380 --> 00:15:52.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: us around.
00:15:52.890 --> 00:15:55.930 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Around me was competing for my consciousness and attention.
00:15:56.520 --> 00:15:59.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. So you're in the city also? Where are you?
00:15:59.750 --> 00:16:01.239 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I left the city.
00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:01.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, you left?
00:16:01.560 --> 00:16:14.819 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yeah, I was in the city for 22 years. I graduated college, I went to Cornell up in Ithaca, New York. I was an engineering student there. And then, post-9-11, in 2022… 2002,
00:16:14.820 --> 00:16:22.769 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I came to the city after college and started working, you know, across the various spectrums, Wall Street, private equity.
00:16:22.770 --> 00:16:32.910 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Renewable energy, government, you know, consulting, and so on and so forth. So I was in the city for 22 plus years until finally when I sold my apartment last year, or 2 years ago in 2024.
00:16:33.390 --> 00:16:39.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Ugh, sorry, I missed you. All right, well, you let me know when you come back for a visit. So…
00:16:39.340 --> 00:16:54.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, was it just, like, getting laid off so many times? Like, what was it that really got you to say, you know what, I can't be part of the Matrix anymore, this isn't for me, I need something different? And then, sort of, where did you go from there?
00:16:54.870 --> 00:17:11.239 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yeah, well, 2022 was that breaking point, but it was the last straw on the camel's back, ultimately, as that saying goes. But it was something that was leading up to for so long. So, you know, the rainforest called me in early 2020, and so I worked with
00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:25.069 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: the plant medicine ayahuasca, for seven ceremonies with the Shibibo shamans in the Amazon. And it was an experience unlike anything, before, because I never worked with any psychedelics, never touched any real drugs, only really was
00:17:25.069 --> 00:17:45.599 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: partying in the meatpacking district with the, you know, the bottles and the table service, you know, back in the day in New York City, that sort of existence, the nightlife. So that was a beginning, but prior to working with the medicine, it's been something where every time I was laid off, my spiritual seeking would increase and really blossom, whether it's.
00:17:45.600 --> 00:17:46.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was working.
00:17:46.190 --> 00:18:04.650 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: working with mediums, or past life regression sort of experiences, or even traveling. A lot of where I was going to see places around the world was driven by my need to scuba dive, and it was a healing for me, you know, a way to kind of ground and cleanse and
00:18:04.650 --> 00:18:12.060 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And to really offset the real, kind of, rigmarole, the intensity, the stress, the toxicity of working.
00:18:12.060 --> 00:18:29.449 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: non-stop in New York City 24-7, right? So that was kind of a blessing in itself that led to this journey to finally say, that's it, I quit in 2022. But it was something simple. It was, you know, working on a conference call with some senior leader who said a comment that wasn't ideal.
00:18:30.120 --> 00:18:35.049 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: kind of really threw me in a tailspin, and I said, that's it, I quit, I'm gonna write a book. No plan.
00:18:35.050 --> 00:18:35.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Here I am.
00:18:35.600 --> 00:18:54.060 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: four years later, about to release the book. So, there's a lot there to talk about, but generally speaking, it was something that has been brewing within for so long in terms of, you know, knowing a sense of self-empowerment and a deeper connection to the higher powers and spiritual understanding, wisdom, and growth.
00:18:54.090 --> 00:18:59.639 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Compared to, you know, working in a sort of controlled environment, you know, for a paycheck.
00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:00.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:19:00.870 --> 00:19:19.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But even, like, you know, again, going to see a psychic, or a medium, or doing past life regression, which, you know, has been around forever, but still, there are a lot of people who don't seek that out, and so I'm just curious, like, can you recall, like, what was your first
00:19:19.130 --> 00:19:24.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Kind of touch to the spiritual world, and what was that experience like for you?
00:19:24.980 --> 00:19:31.309 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: That's a great question. I have to think about that for a moment. The first touch to the spiritual world
00:19:31.780 --> 00:19:44.639 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I know the answer, I just got goosebumps, so that's validation. It had to have been when I was very young, because as I was writing this book, a lot had been coming through for me to really self-reflect, which is another.
00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:45.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: linger.
00:19:45.300 --> 00:19:49.880 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: kind of… encouragements your blog post is asking, is self-reflection.
00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:50.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Absolutely.
00:19:50.280 --> 00:19:57.759 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: going within, and being in a quiet space. And I think a lot of what I was doing as a child… I grew up in Connecticut in the woods.
00:19:58.090 --> 00:20:16.170 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And my family's from Brooklyn, I've extended Italian-American family in Brooklyn, and so for me, it was a bit of a dichotomy. Like, we would go to the city as a child and see the sidewalks and food delivery and Grand Central Station, but then I grew up in the woods, in the sticks, near farms in a very rural part of Connecticut.
00:20:16.180 --> 00:20:25.789 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: So the spiritual, sort of, awareness was when I would spend time as a child, a 6-year-old even, by the babbling brook in my backyard.
00:20:25.790 --> 00:20:26.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Just incredible.
00:20:26.270 --> 00:20:37.199 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Quiet, quiet solitude, being connected to the natural world around me, looking for frogs, looking for, you know, those water bugs that stay on top of the water.
00:20:37.690 --> 00:20:49.079 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: hearing the birds, you know, looking for snakes. You know, all those sort of things that help me better understand the beautiful, conscious, and intelligent world that's around me.
00:20:49.080 --> 00:21:12.830 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And also, too, I remember, I still, to this day, remember staring out the window, of my living room, and looking out to the rhododendron bush, and the green grass, and just the world around me, and thinking… I was in a deep meditative state, and I just knew, I just inherently knew as a very young child that we had many, multiple lives.
00:21:12.830 --> 00:21:28.570 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: we don't just live one life. We've incarnated many, many, many times, and we continue to. And so I kind of knew this, just from this deep meditative state I was in as a young child. And I remember asking myself, well.
00:21:28.580 --> 00:21:42.730 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: If I wanted to be anything I want, anytime in my life, anytime throughout the world, in the past, present, or future, what would be the best sort of existence I could choose?
00:21:42.810 --> 00:21:51.279 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I decided at 6 years old, well, I want to be a Native American in Connecticut, where I live right now, before colonization happened.
00:21:51.490 --> 00:22:00.829 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I want to be back in time with nature, and being one, and in reciprocity with this beautiful, conscious, intelligent existence around me.
00:22:00.890 --> 00:22:13.839 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I'm cared for, and I know how to provide for myself and for others, and be in a state of gratitude, and be one with the seasons, and know that there's something larger beyond, you know, our waking five senses.
00:22:13.840 --> 00:22:28.169 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: That's there for us. And that's where you find that certainty and solitude and your sense of empowerment, and you close out the outside world that's busy, that's vying for your attention and your consciousness. So I think that's what the big aha way back when at 6 years old.
00:22:29.840 --> 00:22:44.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow. Yeah, it's not unusual. I've heard many… I've interviewed many people on the show who, really, their connection to spirit came through their connection with nature, and that when we allow ourselves to immerse ourselves in nature.
00:22:44.790 --> 00:23:02.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's very healing, it's very calming. You know, they say it's hard to get depressed when you're in the beauty of nature. So yeah, I can totally get that, how being so in touch with nature as you were growing up.
00:23:02.080 --> 00:23:12.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: really kind of awakening that within your soul. And then I guess, as with most of us, we go to school, we go out, and we get a job, and we kind of lose that until something
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:22.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: brings us back to it, which I guess in your case was, you know, all these challenging experiences at work. And it's kind of funny, my wife said, you know, I'm…
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:32.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was never meant to be in the normal business world. Like, for me, like, doing healing work was always, like, the thing I'm most suited for.
00:23:32.380 --> 00:23:37.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What got you to go to that first ayahuasca experience in the jungle?
00:23:39.170 --> 00:23:58.639 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yeah, so I was already, on my way to Morocco for a bachelorette party in early January 2020, and my friend, Michelle, who's in the city, she asked me, and my book goes into this, it's a 100% true story, and I documented the whole thing through journaling and photographs and the like.
00:23:58.650 --> 00:24:06.889 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And so, in, like, around Halloween 2019 is when she asked me, like, do you want to come with me to work with ayahuasca?
00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:31.110 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I kind of knew what it was, and I wasn't 100% sure, like, what am I gonna do with this? Like, this is intense. This is a big decision, and I have to really think about this. But at the same time, the easy answer was, I can't. I'm already going to Morocco, and I don't have enough vacation time. So, that was kind of a cop-out answer, but I left it open, and I said to her, you know, if I get laid off, which that
00:24:31.110 --> 00:24:41.000 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: That was the kind of rumblings going on at the time. I'll consider it. I think I'm gonna go. It's really kind of what I said with some, you know, really false courage.
00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:45.520 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And then within, you know, a week or so, I got laid off.
00:24:45.990 --> 00:24:47.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow.
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.000 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: That's what happened, yeah, and.
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:49.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, boy.
00:24:49.560 --> 00:24:59.970 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And it turns out, in hindsight, I was one of the ones that was added to the list, I think, like, one of the last ones. I wasn't really considered at first. So I truly believe now that all the.
00:24:59.970 --> 00:25:00.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: coincidence.
00:25:00.590 --> 00:25:09.339 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: synchronicities that I look back upon that were all happening around me at that time were pointing the way. It was a calling, as you probably know, right? The medicine calls.
00:25:09.340 --> 00:25:22.970 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I accepted the call, I picked up the phone. But at that point, I kind of had to scramble. I was like, oh no, I gotta really think about this now. So what I did was I did a lot of research, and I wanted to make sure that this was the right decision.
00:25:22.970 --> 00:25:33.910 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I went to Temple of the Way of Light, which is one of the premier places in the world, and they have excellent resources on their website. So I basically listened to almost every single video testimonial I could.
00:25:33.910 --> 00:25:34.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I could get my hands.
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:43.649 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: hands-on, and then did a lot of work with, other resources and trying to get an understanding, and then had a conversation with one of the facilitators.
00:25:43.650 --> 00:25:59.109 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I did… I put my deposit down, I got bold, I did it, and then I… what I did was I tacked on, more adventures afterwards, but it worked out seamlessly, because when I asked Michelle, what dates are you thinking, now that I'm laid off? Like, what are you thinking here?
00:25:59.110 --> 00:26:17.510 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: She goes, well, I picked February 2nd, and it's 7 ceremonies, it's over 2 weeks, you know, what can you do it? And I looked at my, itinerary, because I had already booked my flights to and from Morocco, I landed at JFK, the time I needed to be on the plane to Peru at the.
00:26:17.510 --> 00:26:18.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, wow.
00:26:18.100 --> 00:26:25.220 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: So, what happened was, I would get my bags in terminal, whatever, 4, and transfer
00:26:25.220 --> 00:26:38.830 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: you know, go over to the other terminal and recheck my bags and continue on to Peru and to Quitos. So that's… it just was undeniable I had to do this, and so I showed up with an open mind, but also a critical mind in some ways, too.
00:26:38.830 --> 00:26:39.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because.
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:46.000 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: because, you know, I didn't know what I was getting myself into. Was this just drugs? Like, what am I doing here? And then it changed, it changed my life.
00:26:46.180 --> 00:26:54.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What was that very first medicine experience like? Because, you know, doing ayahuasca is your first introduction to plant medicine work, it's like jumping into the deep end of the pool.
00:26:55.220 --> 00:27:09.489 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Oh, sure. It's like the Mount Everest of psychedelics, and it's working with the wisdom keepers and the lineage holders of the Shibibo tradition, so it's in their sacred Moloka space. There was 5 Maestros and maestros, so this was the…
00:27:09.490 --> 00:27:10.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:27:10.030 --> 00:27:13.020 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: It's pinnacle of an experience you can have, thankfully.
00:27:13.050 --> 00:27:24.339 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I remember that first night in the Moloka, I was kind of in awe. They were all beautifully dressed, and my book goes into the very detailed explanations of all of it.
00:27:24.340 --> 00:27:40.409 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: you know, they're in their bangles, and their embroidered shabiba wear, and their kind of floral, sort of, tops, and they, they, they themselves are under the medicine as well, and they're singing their Icros, which is the song.
00:27:40.410 --> 00:27:40.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in the place.
00:27:40.870 --> 00:27:50.699 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: sung in Shibibo and Quechua, and some Spanish, intertwined. And so, that whole experience, I mean, the first of the seven.
00:27:50.910 --> 00:27:53.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Kevin's a lot to start with, I'm amazed.
00:27:53.790 --> 00:28:12.810 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: A lot to start with, exactly. And they have it set up in such a way where it's done with intention. So the first ceremony is a diagnostic ceremony, the next two are the cleansing ceremonies, and then the rebalancing ceremonies, and then ultimately Ceremony 7 is the arcana, which is the sealing ceremony.
00:28:12.810 --> 00:28:13.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: journeys.
00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:25.750 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: So it's done with intention and purpose for the purpose of healing and growing and transformation. So the first ceremony was a joyous one in a lot of ways. It was what you typically think of working with psychedelics.
00:28:26.280 --> 00:28:44.809 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: beautiful entities, and you're seeing the dimensional grids in kind of the dark kind of canvas. You're seeing, colors in very hyper color, like blues and reds and electric yellows, and… and I just remember as the Icaros were first sung in the middle of the Moloca in unison.
00:28:44.970 --> 00:28:51.609 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I felt like I woke up, and I was… I got goosebumps again, thinking about this. I literally felt like…
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:57.730 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I was with this energy all along, throughout my infinite existence of a higher.
00:28:57.730 --> 00:28:58.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: consciousness.
00:28:58.980 --> 00:29:13.529 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I felt like I was this bug, almost. And I was in the ground, dormant. You know, I could see through these, like, multifaceted bug eyes, and I had these very, very thin, sort of bug limbs, black limbs.
00:29:13.530 --> 00:29:23.920 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And it was almost like a butterfly energy eventually, but I could feel myself waking up from the soil, and coming up, and being very, very small, because the blades of grass were ginormous.
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:30.219 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And then I could see the sunshine coming through, and I just knew I was back. I'm back home.
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:30.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm free.
00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:48.849 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I'm here, and I'm joyous. And the messages started coming through. There's so many I learned throughout the seven ceremonies, which my book goes into, but the first thing was, nothing matters! And I was so excited about it! I threw my hands up in the sky. It was a relief.
00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:50.699 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Nothing matters!
00:29:50.840 --> 00:30:01.160 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And then, the caveat was, nothing matters except love, the highest vibrational energy there is, which is Source God. But it was a relief that nothing matters. It didn't matter.
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:01.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then I lost.
00:30:01.590 --> 00:30:12.549 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I lost my job. New York didn't matter. No, this crap mattered. My job title didn't matter. It was a relief to know that I am in the moment of now, and I'm co-creating with a higher power that loves me.
00:30:12.650 --> 00:30:30.170 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I'm here in a protected container where I'm here to learn and grow and rediscover. And so that was really the essence of that first ceremony, that… oh, and to protect the plants. You know, it's important to continue to protect Mother Nature and stop destroying our forests and, you know, having a…
00:30:30.170 --> 00:30:42.049 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: sort of scarcity approach and a disrespect to the environment we live in, because the environment is what sustains us and is what naturally, you know, keeps us in a beautiful state of consciousness.
00:30:42.050 --> 00:30:42.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: generation.
00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:51.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful. All right, I think we're going to take a quick break here, and when we come back, let's talk about
00:30:51.250 --> 00:30:56.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what happened when you got back after these 7 ceremonies? Like, it's one thing to go to the jungle.
00:30:56.790 --> 00:31:12.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: have these amazing, beautiful awakening experiences, but then we come home, and then we have to deal with real life. So I want to talk about that, and… and what people should be aware of when they do engage in these things.
00:31:13.390 --> 00:31:17.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for what happens afterwards, because I'm really big on integration, okay?
00:31:18.020 --> 00:31:18.690 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: You got it.
00:31:18.690 --> 00:31:36.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Awesome. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to The Conscious Consultant Hour, Awakening Humanity. We do this every Wednesday, 12 noon to 1 p.m. Eastern Time, right here on talkradio.nyc and all over social media, and we'll be right back with our guest, Sarah Rocasino, in just a moment.
00:32:50.620 --> 00:33:07.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the Conscious Consultant Hour, Awakening Humanity. We're speaking this hour with Sarah Rocasino, author of the upcoming book, Stone Temple Passport, Awake and Radiate with Mama Ayahuasca. By the way, when's the book coming out?
00:33:08.020 --> 00:33:09.560 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: In July. July.
00:33:09.560 --> 00:33:10.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's a lot. Yeah. Okay.
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.640 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: We're nearly there.
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:20.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, almost there, yep. Let me… hey, if you do a book tour, and you come to New York City for the book tour, let me know, I'll get a bunch of people come out for it, okay?
00:33:20.260 --> 00:33:21.460 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I will, thank you very much.
00:33:21.460 --> 00:33:36.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. So, you went down to, it sounds like Peru, you did these ceremonies, you did 7 ceremonies, which is tremendous. Just out of curiosity, how did you feel in the last ceremony?
00:33:36.860 --> 00:33:40.099 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Oh, the last one was the doozy.
00:33:40.800 --> 00:33:45.379 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: The last one was the, the bad trip, as they say.
00:33:45.380 --> 00:33:45.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know.
00:33:45.790 --> 00:34:06.700 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: A lot of people are very nervous about psychedelics because of the bad trip that potentially can happen. Plus, obviously, we caveat this, you know, please talk to your professional doctors and others, you know, ayahuasca is a very powerful medicine, and those that, you know, have SSRIs and other sort of medications they're taking, it's best to figure out this is the right for you. And I say that because
00:34:06.700 --> 00:34:14.079 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Ceremony 7, I felt like I was having, an epileptic seizure. And, I was shaking nonstop.
00:34:14.080 --> 00:34:14.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Shaking, shaking.
00:34:14.710 --> 00:34:18.669 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: shaking, constant sweat, couldn't see. I felt like.
00:34:18.670 --> 00:34:19.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That was below.
00:34:19.100 --> 00:34:27.400 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: in a near-panic state. Thought… I was in a hysteric, hysterics, thought I was gonna get,
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:43.340 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: arrested, thought the CIA was outside the Moloka looking for me. I thought that I was in such a terrible shape that I would, they would first throw me in jail, and then take me to Bellevue. I literally kept thinking that I'm going to Bellevue, that when I get back to.
00:34:43.340 --> 00:34:43.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: New York.
00:34:43.860 --> 00:34:54.009 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: That I'm in such a bad situation right now, and I'm terrified. And what was happening was, it was, as if my life review was going on in the.
00:34:54.010 --> 00:34:54.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: internet.
00:34:54.729 --> 00:35:01.379 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I could feel… I could feel the pain and emotion of everybody, including a lot of…
00:35:01.509 --> 00:35:12.579 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: heavy metal rock stars, like, I could feel Metallica. I, like, channeled James Hetfield and Robert Trujillo, who's the bassist, and I could see myself on stage, like.
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:27.439 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: just channeling the essence of their songs, and I could… there's a song called Judas Kiss from their Death Magnetic album, and there's a line that says, Major Towers Fall, because it talks about Judas.
00:35:27.529 --> 00:35:41.559 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And the towers, obviously, are 9-11. And so, the towers falling came through as a vision. I relived 9-11. I relived every single pain and trauma in my schooling, in working on Wall Street, getting laid off.
00:35:41.559 --> 00:36:01.269 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: You know, being in very, very difficult, stressful situations that I was in throughout the time I lived in New York. You know, I was seeing, as some may think, of conspiracy, truths being shown to me by the medicine, because they say that the psychedelics are quite tattletales, and what the news tells you is not necessarily the truth.
00:36:01.479 --> 00:36:12.919 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And who ultimately, you know, is causing the pain and suffering, especially when it came to the towers coming down. And so that was a big revelation. And then I had my third eye
00:36:12.919 --> 00:36:27.279 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: completely crack open. It was as if this laser beam was coming through the center apex of the maloca, and zapped right into my third eye. And my whole brain started shaking, and I rolled my eyes, and I couldn't roll them backwards.
00:36:27.279 --> 00:36:34.599 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Back to, you know, focus. And I thought that the shamans broke my brain and couldn't figure out how to put it back.
00:36:34.619 --> 00:36:46.149 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I'm shaking, shaking, shaking, shaking, because my brain is zinging with this light. But I was observing it from a third-person perspective, as if I was outside of my body watching it.
00:36:46.149 --> 00:36:58.589 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And then I started embodying the god Ra, the ancient Egyptian god, and then I started embodying Issus, and then the beautiful winged creature that you see in the hieroglyphics.
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:17.289 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: as if I was a bird. And I also would see… I talk about the time I went to Machu Picchu in 2013, and there's this very, very powerful stone from one of the older stones of Machu Picchu. The Inca built on top of the older megalithic stones that are a lot more curious and quizzical and inexplicable.
00:37:17.289 --> 00:37:31.949 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And there's this one stone called the Intihua Tana, which is the hitching post of the sun. And it's a 21-sided cut stone. And I saw this stone vibrate and radiate with this most intense white light that was as if I was in the middle of the sun without any height.
00:37:31.950 --> 00:37:32.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: heat.
00:37:32.890 --> 00:37:35.539 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I was integrating with that light. It was an
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:53.870 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: it felt like. And so, all in all, I was just obviously, you know, going through massive, massive, massive physical, mental, excruciating emotional pain, suffering, and ultimately, as I was, like, now pleading with whoever could hear me, because I couldn't see, and my head was, you know, pretty much
00:37:53.870 --> 00:38:01.239 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: like a dead weight on the ground, and I'm constantly shaking. Please let this stop, please make this stop. Where is everybody?
00:38:01.240 --> 00:38:01.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: make the stop.
00:38:02.140 --> 00:38:07.080 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And by then, the ceremony had been over, the maestros were out the door, Noel was around.
00:38:07.080 --> 00:38:08.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh my god.
00:38:08.100 --> 00:38:09.700 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Except for one person.
00:38:09.870 --> 00:38:11.500 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: It was Dory Angel.
00:38:11.550 --> 00:38:27.499 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And the door angels are local people from the villages nearby that are hired to just make sure overnight that everyone's still okay. And this person didn't speak English, his name is Dennis, and he… I could feel, at the time I didn't know, but I could feel someone behind me tap me real quick.
00:38:27.540 --> 00:38:41.030 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And then quickly go away. And I said, who's that? Who's that? I can't see you. Help me, help me. And I tapped again. And then I looked, I looked around, finally my eyesight was coming back a little bit, and I could see his terrified face in my headlamp.
00:38:41.080 --> 00:38:59.200 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I said, oh my god, please help me. And I grabbed him from my knees, and I, like, just held on for dear life. I was crying hysterically, and I was staining his skin, almost. But the power of compassion, the power of a hug, the power of just being with me and staying with me in this most…
00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:01.900 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Excruciatingly emotional moment.
00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:09.289 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: is what got me back. Because the intention I set for Ceremony 7 was, show me the compassion of God. And there it was.
00:39:09.370 --> 00:39:23.779 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And then as I felt a little bit better and composed myself, I was now pacing. Where am I? I'm sorry. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Where am I? Where am I? And then I could hear these footsteps, barefoot pattering on the Moloka wood floor.
00:39:23.910 --> 00:39:38.769 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And then it was Michelle, my friend, and she said, come here, and she grabbed me, and brought me down to sit with her, and put me in the lap of her, you know, seated position, and stroked my hair, and just kept saying.
00:39:38.870 --> 00:39:52.050 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: it's okay. And I said, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, and she goes, you don't have nothing to be sorry about. And I said, I just… and I told her everything. I felt all the pains, and all the, you know, the external worlds, the CIA, you know, all these…
00:39:52.190 --> 00:40:09.259 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: just awful things that have been done to humanity, and I can't believe it, and the control systems, and the matrix, and all this fucking bullshit, and blah blah blah. And she kept saying, shh, and she goes, you're… you've gone through what all of us have been going through throughout these two weeks. You just happen to be one of the last ones that are going through the breakdown.
00:40:09.260 --> 00:40:19.860 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And that's what it was, ultimately. The next day, it was the power of compassion, that ultimately you're still gonna be okay no matter what. And that was some of the takeaways, too, is when you surrender and trust.
00:40:19.860 --> 00:40:28.660 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: and connect with the higher vibrational energy, the compassionate love of the Creator, and of the Creator within all of us, that's where the real beauty, you know.
00:40:28.660 --> 00:40:29.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm really mad.
00:40:29.140 --> 00:40:29.840 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: manifests.
00:40:30.120 --> 00:40:36.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean, that's a lot to experience in a short amount of time, and that's a lot to come through
00:40:37.010 --> 00:40:39.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then you come back home, and then what happens?
00:40:40.160 --> 00:40:42.579 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Coronavirus shut down New York City.
00:40:42.780 --> 00:41:07.769 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: So I left 5 weeks prior to the world being one way, and completely removed from society, completely remote, because we continue on to Bolivia and the Alta Plano, and the Andes Mountains, and these, very, very… the salt flats of Uyuni and others, Lake Titicaca, we went to Tiwanako, Pumapuku as well, the megalithic stone structures that are inexplicable. I did a lot of work with Weiracocha as well, so we go into that
00:41:07.770 --> 00:41:09.419 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: that in the book, but…
00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:18.380 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: finally coming back home, we're talking the end of February at this point, and us New Yorkers know New York really shuts down when they cancel St. Patrick's Day, the parade.
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:32.190 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: March 13, 2020. And that's what it was. So I came back with awakened eyes, because there's so much more beyond the material veil, and I also came back more emboldened, because I realized that I don't like authority, and I don't want…
00:41:32.190 --> 00:41:32.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I don't like the…
00:41:32.950 --> 00:41:40.109 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: The narratives that are being thrusted upon me, because it doesn't feel real, or right to me, or correct, or it feels something's on.
00:41:40.110 --> 00:41:40.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:41:41.070 --> 00:41:55.939 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And so, that's ultimately one of the big, kind of, takeaways, too, is, like, I know what's best for me, I know what my sense of empowerment is, and I know that, what feels right and wrong for me is for me to make the determination, not to be, you know.
00:41:56.490 --> 00:42:03.080 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: judged and, and, and… Yelled at and, you know, punished, and all these other things.
00:42:03.130 --> 00:42:20.249 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And so I think that's what it was. It was a better understanding of the matrix, and the control structures, and these sort of artificial, systems that are placed upon us that are not with the light. And I was in integration in my apartment, in my tiny apartment in Midtown Manhattan, as the world was shut down.
00:42:20.370 --> 00:42:38.540 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: So it was very, very hard, because I had already lost my job, so I was already alone. I have new… a new sort of spiritual awakening going on. I don't believe what the news is telling me, because it's not exactly what I'm seeing right in front of me, because that's the what's real, what's going on, where am I, ongoing theme of the book.
00:42:38.540 --> 00:42:41.799 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: You know, what we think is real is an illusion in some ways.
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:42.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So what we.
00:42:42.290 --> 00:42:54.420 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: We've been conditioned to believe is real because the external world is telling us this is the truth. And I think that's what we're going through now in this chaos that, you know, that we're in. We're questioning everything now. What is real?
00:42:54.600 --> 00:43:02.050 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And that's ultimately, I got a head start in some ways, doing it. So a lot of the integration for me was finding the light
00:43:02.050 --> 00:43:17.779 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: where I can, and putting compassion where I could, and trying to be understanding, but at the same time, protective of my sovereignty. And a lot of the work I was doing was just continuing to be outside and sit by the East River, which is where it was my quiet place.
00:43:17.780 --> 00:43:33.070 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And Central Park, and really, it was a blessing in a lot of ways, because everyone being so quiet, and the city being so quiet, was helpful for me in integration. But that was only in hindsight that I realized that, that that was a really interesting time for integration.
00:43:33.410 --> 00:43:44.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. So then after that, what was the inspiration for you to start Embolden Adventures, and then what got you to say, I need to write a book about my experiences?
00:43:44.550 --> 00:43:51.200 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: So, in 2016, I started Embolden Adventures, and it was just a travel blog, and it.
00:43:51.200 --> 00:43:51.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was something…
00:43:51.810 --> 00:44:10.420 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: where I was already two and a half years unemployed out of work in my apartment, you know, paying the mortgage is… it was a very difficult experience, and I was in the darkest of places at that time. And my creative outlet was just to start writing. I was already journaling as I was traveling and photo journaling and the like.
00:44:10.470 --> 00:44:20.479 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: But this was just a way to get my mind off of, like, the dark that I was feeling with constant rejection, constant not having a job, constant being, you know, not…
00:44:20.580 --> 00:44:23.210 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Accepted by the system anymore, you know, because.
00:44:23.570 --> 00:44:37.489 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: there's grief with an unemployment, and there's grief with being let go, and there's grief of being, you know, rejected. So I was processing that in a way that I didn't have, I think, some tools to do so. So the only way I could was creative outlet.
00:44:37.620 --> 00:44:46.970 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And so, when I decided to really kind of step up in Bolden Adventures into what it's becoming now, is because I decided I was going to write a book in 2022.
00:44:47.050 --> 00:45:00.729 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I got… when I came back in 2020, I was able to land another job, and that was just the beginning of the end toward my ultimate, that's it, I'm gonna be an entrepreneur now, and I'm not… I don't want to ever go back to what this was ever again.
00:45:02.790 --> 00:45:16.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, I mean, what kind of reaction did you get from your friends and family when you came back? Did everyone think you lost your mind? Were people supportive? Like, what was it like for you, kind of coming back to the community you were part of?
00:45:16.540 --> 00:45:27.219 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Well, I was very alone, because I was by myself in New York, and we were in isolation, right? You can go out, you can do anything. So the only real touchpoints I had was,
00:45:27.420 --> 00:45:28.780 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Text messaging.
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:34.020 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And, you know, we would have group text messages, but, you know, The group kind of…
00:45:34.640 --> 00:45:41.279 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: divided. Some were like, can't you just listen to the science, and can't you just, you know, be a good.
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:41.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Compliance.
00:45:41.950 --> 00:45:54.700 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: societal member, and just do, you know, get the vax, do all this. And others were like, are you crazy? This is… can't you see this? So it was a very dichotomy, very… it was very different, the perspectives people had.
00:45:54.700 --> 00:45:55.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, there.
00:45:55.240 --> 00:46:05.579 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: There's a lot of fracturing, I think, and I was angry. I was just angry in general, because I was purging all the different stuff. It wasn't just coronavirus, it was everything, you know?
00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:23.919 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: The burnout, the, you know, the lack of companionship, the just being mad at the world, and so I isolated a lot. I… there wasn't much, and I think people were just like, what is happening with her? She's usually this bubbly bubble of joy, and here she is, like.
00:46:24.770 --> 00:46:30.969 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: so angry. So, I think that's what it was, like, people were concerned, but then when I took it the next step, like.
00:46:31.160 --> 00:46:46.150 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I'm done. I don't want to do anything that I'm being forced upon me. I want to do what's right for me. I want to be empowered. And I know that sounds selfish to some, you know, maybe in some ears, but that's what this is, right? The world around us pushes us.
00:46:46.150 --> 00:46:58.879 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And how do we find that moment, that pause in between, that Victor Frankl talks about, right? Between, the pause… it's like a… I forget the way that the quote goes, but he always talks about the importance of the pause.
00:46:58.880 --> 00:46:59.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yep.
00:46:59.590 --> 00:47:06.729 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Right? And then really thinking, like, how do I connect within? What feels right for me? What is my truth?
00:47:06.830 --> 00:47:13.199 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: What… where can I look out for myself to make sure that I'm living the most, glorious
00:47:13.210 --> 00:47:27.919 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: life for the greater good and for me, and not being swayed and persuaded and pushed around, and knowing that my boundaries are important. I think that's where it challenges us. And once you know that that's something you could trust and surrender to.
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:37.640 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: the rest is just noise. So I think that's ultimately… it took a long time to get to that point. And then, like I said, the straw that broke the camel's back was in 2022, and I was like, that's it all.
00:47:37.640 --> 00:47:38.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:47:38.530 --> 00:47:39.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:47:40.110 --> 00:47:49.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, with your, book, Stone Temple Passport, what's the intention behind writing the book, and what do you hope people get from it?
00:47:49.650 --> 00:48:07.250 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: So, I started writing it as a blog on Facebook, just kind of talking about what was the cool wisdoms and what I learned, but I realized that as I'm putting it together, there's so much deeper, powerful messages here about how it's all interconnected. There's no such thing as coincidences.
00:48:07.250 --> 00:48:11.380 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: That, you want to protect the plants, that nothing matters, as we talked about.
00:48:11.380 --> 00:48:29.900 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: That, you know, there's more beyond the material veil than we realize, beyond our five senses, that there's a higher power, that you're the higher power, that you're interconnected with that higher power, that the highest vibrational energy there is is love, therefore God, and that we are in low-vibe states in this three-dimensional world.
00:48:29.900 --> 00:48:47.109 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And that there's so much about the power of reciprocity, and this concept called Aini, which is a, indigenous principle of, knowing that the intertwining of the natural world that sustains. And so, help me help you, help you help me kind of, sort of, approach.
00:48:47.110 --> 00:48:52.389 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And so there was a lot of, kind of introspection for me to write this book for myself.
00:48:52.500 --> 00:49:11.709 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: To see what I can do, and in doing so, this beautiful world of Embolder Adventures is unfolding around me, which allowed for me to now become a speaker, which allowed for me to build this transformational program in the works, which now encouraged me to write two more books that follow for this Transformational Adventure Now series.
00:49:11.710 --> 00:49:14.419 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Which is a 100% true story, all of them.
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:34.629 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: you know, now it's a tour operation opportunity where I'll be offering trips to Morocco, the Amazon, and to Bolivia for the reader to trace their steps, as the book shows. And with those very people that were in the book, like, were the tour guides, there's a retreat I'm building out in Belize, in the jungles of Belize.
00:49:34.630 --> 00:49:59.589 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I mention in the book, my friend who owns the property, and I'll be teaching the takeaways the classroom will be there next year, 2027, and so much more. You know, I realize now that there's a beautiful opportunity to share gifts, and in the sense, in the power of reciprocity, the reward comes your way as well. So, I'm here to see what this beautiful idea can now manifest into a reality.
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:11.980 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: that, feels aligned, authentic, and, you know, unshackled from, you know, that 9-to-5 paycheck that, I thought was the only way to exist and, you know, be.
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:24.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right. So, someone, let's say, is listening to this podcast, or reading your book, and they start to get curious about, you know, medicine work for themselves.
00:50:24.290 --> 00:50:43.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what would you recommend they do before they do something? I mean, 7 ayahuasca ceremonies, that's something I would rarely recommend to somebody, but what would you say to people who want to learn more and want to take a more conscious approach to what they do?
00:50:43.510 --> 00:50:51.629 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yeah, well, I think the first step is to listen to your blog post, is to find that ability to know the quiet within.
00:50:51.630 --> 00:50:52.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to start.
00:50:52.110 --> 00:51:01.819 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: connecting with nature. And, you know, go walk barefoot in the grass. Go to Central Park and walk barefoot. Get away from the concrete. And a lot of the, kind of.
00:51:02.150 --> 00:51:18.090 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: dissonant energies that are around us in New York. When I go back to the city now, I'm like, I feel different, and it's not a good thing. I feel very off, the constant noise, the constant stress, the constant stranger danger, every corner of the face you don't recognize.
00:51:18.090 --> 00:51:34.589 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: You know, your body is subconsciously on edge, and I was that way for 22 years, especially in the city, like, taking the subway, you know, you hear the noises of the brakes of the train, and just… it's just this constant energy, and it may not be a good thing.
00:51:34.590 --> 00:51:39.769 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And so, really listen to your body. Listen to your need for peace and quiet.
00:51:39.810 --> 00:51:46.170 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And connection, with spirit and within. Because eventually, the teacher shows up when the student's ready.
00:51:46.170 --> 00:52:09.469 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And then eventually, it will be an ongoing discovery for yourself. My way isn't the only way, it's just a way, and it's a way that worked for me. And it opened a door for me to continue to work with the plant medicines and other modalities. I've now worked with ayahuasca 10 times, I've worked with mushrooms, I've worked with other sort of… huachuma, heart opener in Ecuador, and so a lot of my books will go into those sort of ceremonies as well, but I think generally speaking, though, it's…
00:52:09.490 --> 00:52:13.379 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Work with various medicine modalities, like sound, right?
00:52:13.380 --> 00:52:13.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: healing.
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:28.960 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yes. Singing, anything that raises your vibration in a state of joy and a sense of empowerment, and a sense of self-love. And then you'll start to attract your tribe and find your community, and then you'll continue to explore what feels right for you.
00:52:29.240 --> 00:52:33.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, very good, very good, absolutely, absolutely.
00:52:33.890 --> 00:52:41.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: With all that you've been through, and the, I guess, internal peace that you found within yourself.
00:52:42.910 --> 00:52:47.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Does anything still challenge you today, other than coming to New York City?
00:52:47.740 --> 00:53:03.659 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Always. I mean, life is gonna be always an ongoing need for learning and growing and expansion, because we're in infinite creation, and there's constant unfolding, and I talk a lot in my book about the motion, which I saw visually in ceremony.
00:53:03.660 --> 00:53:04.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: estimates.
00:53:04.040 --> 00:53:10.629 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: mass of constant creation. And everything, past, present, future, is all within this motion that constantly unfolds.
00:53:10.680 --> 00:53:25.369 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And so, yeah, there's always going to be need for growth, especially if you transcend to the higher consciousness. You're still learning and growing. They even say that archangels don't know everything. So, you know, I think for me, like, the challenges now are trusting in the calling, and trusting in.
00:53:25.370 --> 00:53:25.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the unknown.
00:53:25.820 --> 00:53:34.739 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And knowing that it's a mindset thing. So, if I already think the unknown is scary and limiting and, you know, prohibitive.
00:53:34.740 --> 00:53:48.100 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: then I'm gonna get… the field's gonna return back to me what I put out. So if I'm gonna continue to practice a state of gratitude, a state of trust in self, knowing that my higher power has me, no matter what, trust and surrender.
00:53:48.100 --> 00:53:51.999 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Everything's a blessing, everything's working for me in my best interest.
00:53:52.220 --> 00:54:10.099 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: and I can manifest whatever I want, it's real. The subconscious is quite powerful. And so that's the ongoing practice every day, and I'm just very fortunate that I get to do it now in nature, not in, you know, a tiny little cramped apartment where there's constant noise, construction, and horns, and slamming doors.
00:54:10.740 --> 00:54:22.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, you mentioned, do you have any kind of daily practice? Like, do you meditate every day, or is it just a walk in nature? Like, what do you do on a daily basis to help to maintain your internal peace?
00:54:22.540 --> 00:54:36.580 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yes, I go on my spirit walks every morning. So what I do without a phone, and now I have a dog, so I take my dog as well. So, in the morning, I'll walk to the top of this very tall hill, that I live on, and I give reverence to the sky.
00:54:36.580 --> 00:54:51.509 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: I connect with the sun, I look at the clouds, I look at, you know, the hawk, or the bobcat, or the deer, or the beautiful birds. You know, I think… I remind myself at this one particular point in the walk about the power of abundance.
00:54:51.510 --> 00:54:59.569 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I've been doing it consistently for now 3 years, so I've been seeing the seasons, like, and I remind myself, like, oh, just 4 weeks ago, we had a blizzard, and now.
00:54:59.570 --> 00:54:59.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's happening.
00:54:59.900 --> 00:55:16.890 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: We see the constant evolution and unfolding of beautiful nature. And so that's a lot of the spiritual practice, but then I see my gratitudes, and then I drum. I have a Native American drum that I've taken around the world, especially to Yosemite when I was in California, which is another story for Book 2.
00:55:16.890 --> 00:55:30.770 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: But yeah, I drum for about 20 minutes in meditation, and I, clear my chakras. I try to envision the toroidal field around me. I try to put myself in a protective bubble of light.
00:55:30.770 --> 00:55:47.450 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And I put on this, like, scuba diving sort of wetsuit of protection and a cloak, and I just remind myself of clearing, constant clearing and the importance of sovereignty and connection to higher power, and being in a quiet state where I can receive wisdoms, which happened to me today.
00:55:47.780 --> 00:56:05.439 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Wisdoms, which was about remembering to rely on your higher power no matter what, and it's got you. You know, the higher power is much more powerful than you think, and so, you know, I'm still mad about, like, now my thing is, which bothers me is speed cameras, and I don't like the surveillance.
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:16.699 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: But I'm approaching it in such a way where my old world wants to resist it and take an axe and, you know, chop it down and spray paint it and yell at people and say, why are you doing this? This is stupid.
00:56:16.700 --> 00:56:21.499 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: But the other part of me is like, no, put love to it. Figure out how to outsmart the system.
00:56:21.500 --> 00:56:39.570 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Figure out how to be invisible to the system. Use the system in a way where the whole collective now revolts and says, in a peaceful way, I don't want this. And know that everything is an illusion, it's all energetic creation. So, if your illusionary world around you is giving a speed camera, well, how do you change the illusion, is really.
00:56:39.570 --> 00:56:40.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the request.
00:56:40.070 --> 00:56:53.060 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: And so, it's about, understanding that your higher power, your subconscious, is a lot more powerful than you think, and give it to God, give it to the higher power, and let it figure it… figure it out. It's not your job in the three-dimensional world to stress without it.
00:56:53.450 --> 00:57:01.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. Yeah, they say that, you know, the angels are all around you, waiting to help you, but you just gotta remember to ask them.
00:57:02.070 --> 00:57:12.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's right, that's exactly it. Beautiful. So, Sarah, if people want to learn more about you, if people want to learn about Embolden Adventures, where can they find it online? What can they do?
00:57:12.950 --> 00:57:36.169 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Of course, so you can follow me at sarahocasano.com, S-A-R-A-R-O-C-C-I-S-A-N-O dot com, that's my speaking website. Emboldenedadventures.com is actually going to be a reboot, so give it another 2 months, you'll see a brand new website. Right now, it's a placeholder travel blog. And then Stone TempleTemplePassport.com, which is coming to bookstores soon.
00:57:36.170 --> 00:57:41.920 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: in July, so stay tuned for that. It's a very powerful book. I will say it is the most…
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:47.640 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: The best first-person account of a psychic ayahuasca experience you're gonna find in a written book.
00:57:47.640 --> 00:57:48.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, beautiful.
00:57:49.150 --> 00:57:49.769 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yeah, it's my.
00:57:49.770 --> 00:57:55.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I look forward to reading it when it comes out. Do you have an actual date yet, or is it just July sometime?
00:57:55.870 --> 00:58:03.509 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Yeah, July, I'm self-publishing, so, it's in final layout right now. I'm gonna… the audiobook's already, recorded and edited.
00:58:03.510 --> 00:58:03.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's just an.
00:58:03.970 --> 00:58:11.270 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: No matter putting some fine-tuned, things to the launch beyond just the book. So, there's a lot more coming with that, and…
00:58:11.270 --> 00:58:14.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it'll be on Amazon and all the bookstore sites.
00:58:15.500 --> 00:58:21.949 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: books, audiobook, there's a companion supplemental photo gallery, which is the photos of the adventure.
00:58:21.950 --> 00:58:22.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's merch.
00:58:22.390 --> 00:58:36.659 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: merchandise, there's a whole bunch of things, but… and there'll be a book launch party for those who want to come to Stanford, Connecticut in September, it looks like it's going to be. So, get your tickets now, you can meet me in person, and we could talk about the book and celebrate together. This is a labor of love.
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:41.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Stanford's not so far away, so I'll hop the train up.
00:58:41.970 --> 00:59:01.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, Sarah, listen, it's a pleasure having you come on my show and share your experiences. I really appreciate it. I look forward to, you know, hearing more in the future, and listen, after you've come out with your full series of all three books, we'll have you back on the show and talk about them all, okay?
00:59:01.390 --> 00:59:05.740 Sara Roccisano | Embolden Adventures: Very good, Sam. Thank you for having me, I appreciate the time, and thank you everyone for listening. Thank you.
00:59:05.740 --> 00:59:08.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, thank you, thank you, and of course.
00:59:08.170 --> 00:59:28.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in each week. Without you, there is no show. And don't forget, if you did miss any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on talkradio.nyc and on your favorite podcasting app, Apple, Spotify, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Amazon. Wherever you love to listen to podcasts, you can find The Conscious Consultant Hour.
00:59:28.700 --> 00:59:33.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you all for tuning in, take care, we will talk to you all next week.
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