This week on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam welcomes R. Scott Holmes, quantum healing practitioner, transformational coach, and Amazon bestselling author whose work bridges science, spirit, and the human heart. With a diverse background that includes Reiki, Polarity Therapy, Theta Healing, and voice work, Scott brings a deeply integrative approach to healing, one that honors both the energetic and emotional dimensions of transformation.
Scott’s path into this work was not born from theory, but from lived experience. After spending two decades as a caregiver for his wife and multiply-impaired daughter and later facing the profound loss of his wife of 39 years, Scott found himself at a crossroads. In the depths of grief and exhaustion, he was guided toward energy healing and inner exploration, discovering not only a path to his own healing, but a calling to help others find meaning, freedom, and renewed vitality in their lives.
In this heartfelt conversation, Sam and Scott explore the journey from burnout to renewal, inspired by Scott’s latest collaborative book From Burnout to Burning Bright. They discuss how burnout is not just about doing too much, but about losing connection to ourselves and how healing begins when we reconnect to our energy, our voice, and our deeper purpose. This episode is an invitation to move beyond exhaustion and rediscover the spark that allows us to truly come alive.
Tune in and share your own questions and comments about how to deal with burnout on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page.
This episode opens with Sam reflecting on his personal journey of healing his relationship with his Jewish heritage — sharing how early trauma from a year at yeshiva led him to distance himself from his community for decades, and how eventually helping Orthodox Jewish people with their own healing became a profound mirror for his own self-acceptance. Sam's core message is that rejecting our heritage — whatever form it takes — is ultimately a rejection of a part of ourselves, and that true wholeness comes from learning to honor where we came from, including the painful parts, without needing to re-engage or change who we are today. Guest Scott Holmes then begins sharing his own parallel journey, tracing his evolution from a tight-knit Protestant upbringing through Catholicism, Al-Anon, and eventually an accidental awakening to Buddhist philosophy and energy healing through Reiki and yoga — illustrating how our spiritual paths are rarely linear, but are always guiding us back to ourselves.
Scott shares his expansive journey through multiple healing modalities — from Reiki to polarity therapy to theta healing — emphasizing that he pursued each one primarily for his own inner growth, and that the greatest gift of learning is always sharing what you've discovered with others. He recounts a remarkable story of helping a woman who believed she had been cursed, demonstrating that energy is energy regardless of its form, and that our intuitive knowing can guide us into healing territory far beyond what we can visually perceive. Drawing on his collaborative book From Burnout to Burning Bright, Scott reflects that the common thread among all who have recovered from profound burnout is a return to their authentic self — and he leaves listeners with the practical wisdom that navigating an era of relentless change requires developing conscious, intentional daily rituals that keep us grounded, clear, and rooted in the heart rather than the head.
00:00:26.630 --> 00:00:38.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators! Good morning, good evening, wherever you're tuning in from. Welcome to the Conscious Consultant Hour, Awakening Humanity.
00:00:38.760 --> 00:00:57.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We've got another wonderful show in store for you. I know I always say that, but it's true. And I have a great guest who I'm looking forward to bringing on, but of course, as always, we do have my blog post.
00:00:57.900 --> 00:01:03.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: from a couple of years ago. And this one's kind of an interesting one.
00:01:04.290 --> 00:01:09.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A very personal one for me, and the title of this blog post is.
00:01:09.810 --> 00:01:15.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Accepting our heritage is to accept all of ourselves.
00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:20.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They say that familiarity breeds contempt.
00:01:21.350 --> 00:01:25.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This is particularly true when it comes to our community.
00:01:25.580 --> 00:01:30.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we grow up inside a group, we see everything.
00:01:31.070 --> 00:01:33.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The good, the bad, the ugly.
00:01:34.290 --> 00:01:38.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It can be easy to resent our community and
00:01:41.590 --> 00:01:46.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For we have experienced firsthand all the challenges
00:01:47.090 --> 00:01:51.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The pain it has caused us, and the trauma it has inflicted.
00:01:51.950 --> 00:01:59.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can become so disheartened by it that we want nothing to do with it.
00:02:00.700 --> 00:02:03.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Not only do we seek to distance from it.
00:02:04.020 --> 00:02:07.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We also do not want to be identified with it.
00:02:07.870 --> 00:02:14.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So we reject it, and in its place, and its place in our lives.
00:02:14.850 --> 00:02:20.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Until we begin to find our healing path to wholeness.
00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:25.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To that place where we can accept ourselves.
00:02:26.020 --> 00:02:29.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All parts of ourselves.
00:02:30.090 --> 00:02:33.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Including the community that we come from.
00:02:34.310 --> 00:02:41.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we heal from our trauma, we can find a way to appreciate the good parts of our upbringing.
00:02:41.740 --> 00:02:47.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The places where we had joy and nourishment from the traditions of our community.
00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:54.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet this only occurs when we learn to fully accept ourselves.
00:02:57.170 --> 00:03:00.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To accept where we come from.
00:03:01.230 --> 00:03:03.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Our own unique place.
00:03:03.740 --> 00:03:05.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In our heritage.
00:03:05.690 --> 00:03:13.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: As long as we are fractured about our past, we will never be able to see the good in it.
00:03:15.580 --> 00:03:28.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So learning to accept all of the traits that make the community we come from unique is a process of learning to accept all of ourselves.
00:03:28.620 --> 00:03:31.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Even the parts we don't like.
00:03:32.350 --> 00:03:40.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Especially the parts we have hidden away in the shadows of our fear or shame.
00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:48.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Bringing all of ourselves to the light for all to behold gives us peace.
00:03:48.830 --> 00:03:50.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and calm.
00:03:51.540 --> 00:03:58.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To do this, it is essential for us to truly accept Where we come from.
00:03:59.260 --> 00:04:00.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All of it.
00:04:00.930 --> 00:04:04.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The good, the bad, the ugly.
00:04:05.350 --> 00:04:09.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So where are you not accepting your own community?
00:04:09.770 --> 00:04:14.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What parts of yourself are you denying because of this lack?
00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:26.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of acceptance So, this, this blog post… was written
00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:39.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: After, sort of, a realization. So, so many of you know I've talked about, sort of, the fact that my wife and I do some healing work together for different groups of people and individuals.
00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And… I had an interesting opportunity a couple of years ago.
00:04:46.430 --> 00:04:50.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to work with a group of Orthodox Jewish people.
00:04:51.540 --> 00:04:57.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: People who were much more religious than I ever was.
00:04:57.500 --> 00:05:01.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: People who have lived inside the community their whole lives.
00:05:02.820 --> 00:05:07.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it gave me an opportunity to see Their trauma and their pain.
00:05:09.610 --> 00:05:18.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to help them to heal that, for me, Was very healing, because… as I've told you before.
00:05:19.190 --> 00:05:23.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I didn't have such a good relationship with my heritage.
00:05:24.310 --> 00:05:30.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when I was, in junior high school,
00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:42.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Not junior high school, before junior high school, when I was switching from my elementary school to junior high school, my dad was very orthodox at the time, and he insisted that I go to this yeshiva for one year.
00:05:43.800 --> 00:06:00.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now, keep in mind, my dad was very Orthodox, but we weren't raised Orthodox. We were, you know, went to a conservative synagogue. We were not very observant. We didn't observe the Sabbath. You know, of course, we had a Passover Seder every year, you know, we did the traditional things.
00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:02.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But not the religious things.
00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:07.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to go to Yeshiva was really, like, culture shock for me.
00:06:09.630 --> 00:06:14.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And one of the most difficult parts about it was…
00:06:14.210 --> 00:06:16.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How mean the other kids were to me.
00:06:17.180 --> 00:06:30.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how mean the teachers were to me, because I didn't have the payas, I didn't have the hair, I didn't have the religious upbringing, I didn't know all the prayers, I didn't read Hebrew as well as everyone else in my grade.
00:06:32.960 --> 00:06:35.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I got picked on because of it.
00:06:36.200 --> 00:06:38.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it was really painful.
00:06:39.410 --> 00:06:47.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I begged my mom to get me out of that school after just one year, and she did, and I went to a public junior high school after that.
00:06:50.780 --> 00:06:53.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, after that experience.
00:06:54.900 --> 00:07:01.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I always kept my distance from other Jewish kids, for the most part. Not entirely, but for the most part.
00:07:02.200 --> 00:07:07.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Especially religious kids. I… but if they were religious, I kept them far away.
00:07:08.780 --> 00:07:11.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, for much of my life.
00:07:12.340 --> 00:07:15.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: My friends were all not Jewish people.
00:07:15.850 --> 00:07:18.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Jewish people didn't feel safe to me.
00:07:19.400 --> 00:07:26.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, even though my sister moved to Israel, and I would go to Israel and visit her many times, and I loved meeting people in Israel.
00:07:28.140 --> 00:07:31.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: again, Orthodox people, -
00:07:34.440 --> 00:07:42.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Until… you know, about 12 years ago, when I started doing my personal healing and my deeper work.
00:07:43.320 --> 00:07:45.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: facilitated by…
00:07:45.350 --> 00:07:52.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not an Orthodox person, but a Jew and an Israeli, and I started having more Jewish people in my life.
00:07:52.570 --> 00:07:56.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I started to be a little more comfortable being around other Jewish people.
00:07:58.200 --> 00:08:04.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then when I got to this point where I realized I have all these Orthodox people coming to me for healing.
00:08:07.850 --> 00:08:13.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It really, it really melted my heart.
00:08:14.090 --> 00:08:15.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Towards my fellow Jew.
00:08:18.450 --> 00:08:24.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it really… Helped me to accept more of myself.
00:08:26.940 --> 00:08:35.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, there were things about my upbringing I didn't like. There were ways that my parents acted that I still don't like.
00:08:37.409 --> 00:08:39.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I was finally able to see
00:08:41.340 --> 00:08:44.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, the good parts about some of the traditions.
00:08:46.740 --> 00:08:51.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To see, you know, community, and to see… you know…
00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:57.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How many other people are so traumatized in the community to understand that
00:08:57.860 --> 00:09:07.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Most people in the community, when they're not acting so kind, when they're not acting so good, it's coming from their trauma, it's not coming from who they are.
00:09:11.090 --> 00:09:28.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it's interesting, because I've met other people along the way from different backgrounds and different traditions. I know so many Catholics who say, oh, I'm not a Catholic anymore, I'm a recovering Catholic, or people came from a Mormon background, or, you know, whatever, a Quaker background, anything, you name it.
00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:39.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then I realized that every time we cut ourselves off from our heritage.
00:09:41.340 --> 00:09:43.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Whether we have good reason or not.
00:09:45.890 --> 00:09:49.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're cutting ourselves off from a piece of ourselves.
00:09:50.370 --> 00:09:57.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's something in ourselves that we're not accepting about ourselves, because we came from that community.
00:09:58.780 --> 00:10:03.999 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so I realized that my experience was a little more universal than I thought it was.
00:10:08.500 --> 00:10:16.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, being able to come To the place where… I could be okay.
00:10:18.900 --> 00:10:26.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Around people who… I couldn't stand to be in the same room with in the past.
00:10:27.420 --> 00:10:33.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I realized that… That was a whole new level of healing for me.
00:10:34.700 --> 00:10:39.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And a whole new level of acceptance for myself.
00:10:41.810 --> 00:10:46.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I don't know if this story resonates with you at all or not.
00:10:49.220 --> 00:10:51.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's just how I felt.
00:10:52.750 --> 00:10:55.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so that's where this blog post comes from.
00:10:57.640 --> 00:11:01.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so I hope… that it…
00:11:02.650 --> 00:11:06.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Awakens in you at least a possibility.
00:11:07.270 --> 00:11:10.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That if there's some way in which you've…
00:11:12.130 --> 00:11:15.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Distanced yourself from your own community.
00:11:15.870 --> 00:11:23.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or… Denigrated your own community because of the ugliness that you saw inside of it.
00:11:24.740 --> 00:11:30.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That you find a way to heal… to find…
00:11:30.710 --> 00:11:34.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe, what are those little moments that actually were beautiful?
00:11:35.580 --> 00:11:38.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What are those little traditions?
00:11:38.790 --> 00:11:45.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That maybe, at the time, didn't feel so good, but maybe now there's some appreciation for him.
00:11:45.650 --> 00:11:56.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And look, I'm not saying you have to go back and re-engage. I'm not saying you need to become Orthodox. Look, I'm not Orthodox. I'm not any more observant than I was 2 years ago.
00:11:57.680 --> 00:12:01.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But at least I can honor people who are.
00:12:01.990 --> 00:12:04.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And not judge them for it.
00:12:05.260 --> 00:12:08.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because whenever we judge someone else.
00:12:08.750 --> 00:12:12.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We're really just causing separation between us and ourselves.
00:12:14.300 --> 00:12:17.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so that's why I wrote this post.
00:12:19.630 --> 00:12:23.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is to maybe help ease that separation a little bit.
00:12:26.400 --> 00:12:28.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I hope that makes sense for you.
00:12:29.640 --> 00:12:38.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Anyway, so that's my blog post. It is entitled, Accepting Our Heritage is to Accept All of Ourselves.
00:12:38.700 --> 00:12:46.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you can find my blog post, of course, on my personal website, theconsciousconsultant.com.
00:12:46.630 --> 00:13:05.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, yeah, you can still find it on the station's website, talkradio.nyc slash blog. And don't forget, like, if you like my blog posts, I actually do have a book that's filled with wonderful writings that you'd probably enjoy called Everyday Awakening, available at
00:13:05.640 --> 00:13:10.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wherever you buy books, so I hope you'll have an opportunity to go check that out.
00:13:11.590 --> 00:13:19.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So now, it is my pleasure to welcome to the show R. Scott Holmes, Quantum Healing
00:13:19.930 --> 00:13:29.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Energy practitioner, transformational coach, and Amazon best-selling author whose work bridges science, spirit, and the human heart.
00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:45.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: With a diverse background, including Reiki, polarity therapy, theta healing, and voice work, Scott brings a deep, deeply integrative approach to healing, one that honors both the energetic and emotional dimensions of transformation.
00:13:45.620 --> 00:13:51.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Scott's path into this work was not born from theory, but from lived experience.
00:13:51.750 --> 00:14:07.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: After spending two decades as a caregiver for his wife and multiply impaired daughter, and later facing the profound loss of his wife of 39 years, Scott found himself at a crossroads.
00:14:07.270 --> 00:14:23.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In the depths of grief and exhaustion, he was guided towards energy healing and inner exploration, discovering not only a path to his own healing, but a calling to help others find meaning, freedom, and renewed vitality in their lives.
00:14:24.300 --> 00:14:28.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Scott explores the journey from burnout to renewal.
00:14:28.660 --> 00:14:33.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Including in his latest collaborative book, From Burnout to Burning Bright.
00:14:34.700 --> 00:14:51.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Where he discusses how burnout is not just about doing too much, but about losing connection to ourselves, and how healing begins when we reconnect to our energy, our voice, and our deeper purpose. Welcome to the Conscious Consultant Hour, Scott.
00:14:51.870 --> 00:14:56.880 Scott Holmes: Thank you very much. It's very… it's great to be here, Sam. Thank you very much.
00:14:57.090 --> 00:15:00.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You're quite welcome, you're quite welcome. Glad to have you here.
00:15:00.790 --> 00:15:09.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, I mean, you have quite an interesting background, and really have dealt a lot with a lot of challenges in your life.
00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:17.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Would you say before you dealt with those challenges, were you at all spiritual in any way? Did you have a…
00:15:17.150 --> 00:15:28.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Kind of a leaning in that direction, or did that really all just come about after you had your more difficult experiences?
00:15:29.270 --> 00:15:32.650 Scott Holmes: I loved your recapturing of how you grew up
00:15:32.810 --> 00:15:38.310 Scott Holmes: And how those dynamics really worked for you.
00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.109 Scott Holmes: And, I was raised Protestant.
00:15:41.500 --> 00:15:55.609 Scott Holmes: And raised a particular way. All my cousins, my aunts, my uncles, my whole family went to the same church. We all live less than 5 miles from the church. Everybody went to the same… so there was a consistent community there.
00:15:55.610 --> 00:16:08.249 Scott Holmes: there was shared, you know, the services were shared. You know, I was an acolyte. You know, I helped do all those things. We all… my cousins and I all grew up together.
00:16:08.340 --> 00:16:09.730 Scott Holmes: And it was…
00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:23.999 Scott Holmes: that was the center of, really, our world with my mom and her sisters, and how, the church used to be filled. It was amazing. You know, there were 250, 300 people at Sunday worship.
00:16:25.230 --> 00:16:36.249 Scott Holmes: Well, I got married, and, to a nice Irish Catholic girl, and we had Mass, and my grandparents would not go to the wedding.
00:16:36.610 --> 00:16:38.850 Scott Holmes: Because it was in a Catholic church.
00:16:41.060 --> 00:16:47.660 Scott Holmes: So, and I was the first of the grandchildren to get married, and… Rock the boat.
00:16:48.020 --> 00:16:48.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:16:50.020 --> 00:16:52.650 Scott Holmes: So, in short order, I had 3 daughters.
00:16:53.190 --> 00:17:01.330 Scott Holmes: And we were going to Mass every Sunday. We wanted to raise our daughters that way. I had signed the papers, so I had to do it.
00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:02.660 Scott Holmes: But…
00:17:02.800 --> 00:17:10.119 Scott Holmes: In doing that, I then thought, you know, I'm going every week, I'm really getting involved in this, and…
00:17:10.550 --> 00:17:30.240 Scott Holmes: so I… I actually converted to Catholicism. I had to… our priest was a… local head priest was the… was actually a history teacher. And so, we would talk about theory, and we would talk about the history of the Bible, and why things were done, and it… he made…
00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.639 Scott Holmes: The Catholic religion intriguing.
00:17:33.930 --> 00:17:34.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Mmm.
00:17:34.750 --> 00:17:36.210 Scott Holmes: Unfortunately, in practice.
00:17:36.870 --> 00:17:44.840 Scott Holmes: They don't… in catechism with my daughters as they were growing up, it was more about recitation than it was about thought.
00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:45.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was about just.
00:17:46.120 --> 00:17:48.900 Scott Holmes: Kind of… Doing all that.
00:17:50.500 --> 00:17:52.569 Scott Holmes: Later in life, I had a,
00:17:53.190 --> 00:17:56.719 Scott Holmes: I was… I was told that I should go to Al-Anon.
00:17:57.040 --> 00:17:58.779 Scott Holmes: Not AA, but Al-Anon.
00:17:58.780 --> 00:17:59.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:17:59.280 --> 00:18:10.430 Scott Holmes: going through a crisis, and I had psychologists, say, okay, you need to go to Al-Anon. And the one thing I found and that they preach in AA and throughout is a higher power.
00:18:10.730 --> 00:18:16.799 Scott Holmes: So I began to think about it in a slightly different way than a higher power. However.
00:18:17.800 --> 00:18:20.220 Scott Holmes: You… you see that to being.
00:18:22.630 --> 00:18:28.989 Scott Holmes: And… That gave me a really different concept of… you know…
00:18:29.100 --> 00:18:31.120 Scott Holmes: what God is and how it is.
00:18:32.520 --> 00:18:36.219 Scott Holmes: And after my wife passed, I started traveling, and I went to Vietnam.
00:18:36.770 --> 00:18:44.400 Scott Holmes: and to Asia, a couple of times. And I found out that I was an accidental Buddhist.
00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:52.109 Scott Holmes: By that, I mean, I didn't study Buddhism, but in being presented with it.
00:18:52.620 --> 00:18:56.770 Scott Holmes: Their whole… the Eastern and Western religions…
00:18:57.940 --> 00:19:10.630 Scott Holmes: In the East, it's… God is within, and you go inward in order to find your answers. In Protestant and Catholic, you go outside to a force larger than yourself.
00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:13.399 Scott Holmes: And it really resonated with me that
00:19:14.260 --> 00:19:24.249 Scott Holmes: in going inward, you found God in here, because we all have God's spark in us. We all are of His image, right? And so, in order to find that, you went in.
00:19:24.620 --> 00:19:31.820 Scott Holmes: And it really resonated with me. So I've, evolved when it comes to religion.
00:19:32.170 --> 00:19:34.829 Scott Holmes: And it's more spiritual than it is…
00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:49.339 Scott Holmes: you know, practiced in that aspect. I don't go to Mass anymore. I can still recite all of it, going to, you know, Catholic Mass, and in the funerals and weddings I've been to, I can recite everything without having to look it up. But…
00:19:49.590 --> 00:19:54.470 Scott Holmes: It's recitation, it's not something that's really within me.
00:19:54.690 --> 00:19:55.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:19:56.090 --> 00:20:12.399 Scott Holmes: But in traveling, I've… you know, when you go to Europe, you do the, you know, you get all the churches, because they were the center of the town. You go to every old town, and they have a cathedral. And it doesn't matter how small of a town you have.
00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:18.839 Scott Holmes: There's this huge church, and it was the center of everything that went on in the town.
00:20:19.040 --> 00:20:22.449 Scott Holmes: And I understand that because of my upbringing.
00:20:23.260 --> 00:20:27.939 Scott Holmes: But I look at it, and it's dissipated. I don't know if you found this…
00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:33.399 Scott Holmes: But people don't live as close as they used to. You know, my…
00:20:33.600 --> 00:20:38.179 Scott Holmes: My siblings and my… all grew up and lived
00:20:38.700 --> 00:20:43.530 Scott Holmes: 10 minutes from where my parents, you know, we grew up and where my parents lived.
00:20:44.100 --> 00:20:47.419 Scott Holmes: We didn't go to the same church anymore, but, you know, we were close.
00:20:47.610 --> 00:20:59.999 Scott Holmes: Now, my kids are in four corners of the world. There is not… not… not multi-generational, upbringing. There isn't… there is kind of that loss of community.
00:21:00.230 --> 00:21:00.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:21:01.100 --> 00:21:08.070 Scott Holmes: And my parents' church, which had 250, 300 people at a service, ended up… my mom
00:21:08.170 --> 00:21:10.729 Scott Holmes: Was one of 12 people that ended up
00:21:11.380 --> 00:21:13.909 Scott Holmes: going every Sunday before it collapsed.
00:21:14.210 --> 00:21:15.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Whoa.
00:21:15.110 --> 00:21:19.439 Scott Holmes: Yeah, and it's that evolution of how,
00:21:20.170 --> 00:21:22.920 Scott Holmes: people see religion in the United States, and.
00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:23.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:21:23.520 --> 00:21:28.930 Scott Holmes: parts of the world, it's much more, ingrained and embedded…
00:21:29.340 --> 00:21:34.810 Scott Holmes: embedded. So it's… so thank you for bringing that story up. It reminded me of that.
00:21:34.980 --> 00:21:36.259 Scott Holmes: And how…
00:21:36.260 --> 00:21:56.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And just to let you know, I totally relate to you, because, I mean, from the time I was a kid, my sister moved to Israel after doing a year of college abroad. My brother went to Ohio for graduate school, then eventually settled down in Virginia Beach. I'm the only one in the family left in New York City.
00:21:56.380 --> 00:22:00.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So yeah, like, the family's all over the place, and nobody's here anymore.
00:22:01.530 --> 00:22:02.730 Scott Holmes: And that makes it hard.
00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:05.699 Scott Holmes: That makes it hard to stay… stay connected.
00:22:06.740 --> 00:22:09.010 Scott Holmes: The other part of that is…
00:22:09.390 --> 00:22:11.480 Scott Holmes: In your blog, you talked about
00:22:12.800 --> 00:22:16.230 Scott Holmes: Those parts of yourself about accepting
00:22:16.630 --> 00:22:21.570 Scott Holmes: Those… the parts that, you know, the good, bad, and the ugly of your upbringing.
00:22:22.300 --> 00:22:28.030 Scott Holmes: And it wasn't until I was writing a piece on joy.
00:22:28.950 --> 00:22:37.739 Scott Holmes: And it all came back to when I was a kid. And those things that… it pulled the positive things out of when I grew up.
00:22:37.910 --> 00:22:39.340 Scott Holmes: The ice cream truck
00:22:39.820 --> 00:22:52.309 Scott Holmes: You know, the ice cream truck as it went through the neighborhood. I grew up in a small city, and within 3 blocks, we had 12 kids within 3 years of each other, all boys.
00:22:52.510 --> 00:22:53.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So…
00:22:53.270 --> 00:23:06.309 Scott Holmes: there were always something to do, there was always a game to play, there was always something going on. And, you know, we built the treehouse, and everybody would go to the treehouse. It started off as, you know, about 6 feet off the ground.
00:23:06.490 --> 00:23:12.699 Scott Holmes: It ended up being 7 stories, and when we stood up, we could look over the three-deckers, you know? It got that tall.
00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:13.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow.
00:23:13.870 --> 00:23:28.440 Scott Holmes: adding on to it, and it became kind of a center of the neighborhood. So anytime you wanted to find somebody, and you couldn't find them, you'd always go to the treehouse, and there everyone would be. But it was those aspects that really made me who I am today.
00:23:28.630 --> 00:23:29.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:23:29.110 --> 00:23:35.019 Scott Holmes: those connections, those… and I still see two of the… two of my friends, 60 years later.
00:23:35.020 --> 00:23:35.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow.
00:23:35.780 --> 00:23:37.360 Scott Holmes: We get together every Friday.
00:23:37.590 --> 00:23:38.760 Scott Holmes: We… we would…
00:23:39.510 --> 00:23:47.020 Scott Holmes: we went away, and we came back, and we now live all of 2 miles from each other, and every Friday night, we get together.
00:23:47.210 --> 00:23:54.090 Scott Holmes: Have a couple beers, and throw darts, and tell lies, and they know me better than anybody else.
00:23:54.410 --> 00:24:00.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's wonderful, that's wonderful. I'm so jealous. I don't have anybody in my life from that long ago. So…
00:24:00.850 --> 00:24:07.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How did you get introduced to energy healing? I mean, that's not your typical path that most people take, is it?
00:24:07.510 --> 00:24:13.769 Scott Holmes: That's funny. So, at 50,
00:24:14.470 --> 00:24:17.919 Scott Holmes: He had a friend of mine who was a yoga instructor.
00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:19.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:24:19.990 --> 00:24:21.259 Scott Holmes: So she said to me.
00:24:21.830 --> 00:24:27.830 Scott Holmes: come on down. I said, you know, this is for women who just don't have anything better to do. And she looked at me and said, oh, really?
00:24:28.830 --> 00:24:33.779 Scott Holmes: I've been studying all of her, all of her adult life, and she said, touch your toes.
00:24:34.070 --> 00:24:40.350 Scott Holmes: And I said, okay. I slid off the chair, reached down, and went all the way to my knees.
00:24:42.650 --> 00:24:51.039 Scott Holmes: I said, I guess I'm not really… I'm just that stiff white guy, and she just laughed. And she said, I'll see you on Saturday.
00:24:51.040 --> 00:24:53.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Haha, she got ya.
00:24:53.330 --> 00:24:54.010 Scott Holmes: Get me.
00:24:54.490 --> 00:24:56.489 Scott Holmes: So we show up on Saturday, and
00:24:57.030 --> 00:25:04.920 Scott Holmes: You know, I'm the only guy in class, of course. There are 15 women, and I kind of hide in the corner.
00:25:05.170 --> 00:25:09.059 Scott Holmes: And I start trying to do these… these forms, and…
00:25:10.110 --> 00:25:24.739 Scott Holmes: You want to talk about embarrassing. I'm… I mean, I'm just trying to get some semblance, and here I am, and I'm struggling, and next to me is a 70-year-old woman with this beautific smile on her face, and she's just in this… this form, just loving everything, and I'm like.
00:25:25.350 --> 00:25:27.500 Scott Holmes: Wow, how do you do that?
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:28.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:25:29.740 --> 00:25:41.509 Scott Holmes: And I practiced constantly. I went every week. I… I was… I was religious about it. I went every week to… because I wanted… I wanted to be able to at least look like I knew what I was doing.
00:25:42.590 --> 00:25:47.599 Scott Holmes: The other… the other part of that, and the interesting thing that happened, was because I went every week.
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:58.209 Scott Holmes: The women would say, are you gonna be here next week? Yeah, I am. I've been trying to get my husband to come forever, and he won't come. But if there's another guy here, he'll do it.
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:04.909 Scott Holmes: And so, over the course of a couple years, we had 5 or 6 guys that would come on a regular basis.
00:26:05.100 --> 00:26:05.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Whoa.
00:26:06.340 --> 00:26:18.529 Scott Holmes: And, you know, they were older, and I believe that every guy over the age of 50 should do yoga, because I was… I had a chronic bad back back. I had hurt my back when my 20s.
00:26:19.140 --> 00:26:32.999 Scott Holmes: And all through… I mean, I would be out of commission for 2-3 times a year, for a week to two weeks, because my back was messed up. I mean, there were times when I literally had to crawl from the car up the stairs to my house.
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:35.479 Scott Holmes: Because my back was so bad.
00:26:36.540 --> 00:26:41.899 Scott Holmes: But after yoga, And, and I, and I do it now daily.
00:26:42.660 --> 00:26:46.059 Scott Holmes: Knock on wood, I haven't had any back issues.
00:26:46.340 --> 00:26:47.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because of…
00:26:47.080 --> 00:26:47.750 Scott Holmes: Yoga.
00:26:47.750 --> 00:26:48.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It… it…
00:26:48.940 --> 00:26:53.859 Scott Holmes: it strengthened… you know, I thought I was strong because I worked out, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:54.110 --> 00:26:55.729 Scott Holmes: Not even close.
00:26:55.730 --> 00:26:56.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:26:56.620 --> 00:27:04.040 Scott Holmes: The muscles and the strengthening that yoga does on the internal organs, on the small muscles, on everything.
00:27:04.760 --> 00:27:07.930 Scott Holmes: Helps contribute to my being able to walk
00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:15.859 Scott Holmes: At 68 years old, people think I'm… 55 years old, because… I can stand up straight.
00:27:15.860 --> 00:27:16.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:27:16.730 --> 00:27:26.119 Scott Holmes: And I can move. And I really attribute that to yoga. So that was a part of the… original part of the spirituality, but after my wife passed, I was 60 years old.
00:27:27.290 --> 00:27:32.900 Scott Holmes: My daughters had moved, they had families of their own, they had kids, and…
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:34.700 Scott Holmes: It was me and the cat.
00:27:34.830 --> 00:27:39.219 Scott Holmes: And I don't know if you try to engage a cat in conversation, but they're not very good at it.
00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:41.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Dogs are much better, yes.
00:27:41.900 --> 00:27:44.329 Scott Holmes: Dogs, you generally are a little more patient with you.
00:27:44.510 --> 00:27:45.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah.
00:27:45.190 --> 00:27:50.650 Scott Holmes: But a friend of mine said, hey, you want to go to Reiki? I'm like, I got nothing else going on, okay.
00:27:50.650 --> 00:27:51.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's wrong?
00:27:51.290 --> 00:27:56.060 Scott Holmes: Ricky and… The very first thing they have you do is self-reaking.
00:27:56.930 --> 00:28:02.509 Scott Holmes: In order to go to the next Reiki 2, you have to do 3 months of self-reiki.
00:28:03.770 --> 00:28:06.569 Scott Holmes: And it was the first time that I ever really
00:28:06.740 --> 00:28:10.070 Scott Holmes: Sat by myself, and concentrated, and lived.
00:28:10.070 --> 00:28:11.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Listen to my body.
00:28:12.390 --> 00:28:20.039 Scott Holmes: And so I started the practice of Reiki and then yoga, and it all tied together. And it really blossomed.
00:28:20.170 --> 00:28:29.920 Scott Holmes: From there, of… finding myself again, by grounding with Reiki, with energy, and starting to understand what energy was.
00:28:32.230 --> 00:28:39.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow, wow. Okay, I'm sure there's more to that story, but we're gonna take a quick break.
00:28:39.570 --> 00:28:51.419 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And when we come back, I want to know, well, okay, you started with Reiki, but then you went other places, and then let's, you know, find our way to when you became an author, okay?
00:28:52.180 --> 00:28:52.890 Scott Holmes: Thank you.
00:28:52.890 --> 00:28:58.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, so everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the Conscious Consultant Hour, Awakening Humanity.
00:28:59.250 --> 00:29:11.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We do this every Wednesday, 12 noon to 1pm Eastern Time, right here on talkradio.nyc and all over social media. And we'll be right back with our guest, Scott Holmes, in just a moment.
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:43.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Welcome back to the Conscious Consultant Hour, Awakening Humanity. We're speaking this hour with Scott Holmes. So, Scott, you initially studied yoga and then learned Reiki. Where did it go from there? Because Reiki wasn't the last energy healing that you learned, was it?
00:30:43.910 --> 00:30:45.380 Scott Holmes: No, certainly wasn't.
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:50.779 Scott Holmes: So Ricky led to Ricky 2, and then Ricky Messer. And part of…
00:30:51.380 --> 00:30:56.570 Scott Holmes: doing that, I started doing classes and teaching Help teach Reiki.
00:30:57.340 --> 00:30:57.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:30:57.900 --> 00:31:03.300 Scott Holmes: Because people were curious, and Reiki is an accepted…
00:31:03.510 --> 00:31:07.810 Scott Holmes: modality now. It's, you know, it's kind of common speak.
00:31:09.250 --> 00:31:12.480 Scott Holmes: And I wanted to… to… there had to be more.
00:31:12.670 --> 00:31:26.009 Scott Holmes: And so, I was thinking that I… back when I was in my 30s, I wanted to do massage therapy and was very interested in it, and I went to massage school, except the first thing they taught was polarity therapy.
00:31:28.020 --> 00:31:31.470 Scott Holmes: And I'm thinking, I'm 60 years old.
00:31:31.870 --> 00:31:45.909 Scott Holmes: And I probably got about 8 years of, massage in me before my body breaks down from doing it. But this polarity therapy thing, it basically, when people ask what is polarity, I tell them it's, Reiki on steroids.
00:31:46.310 --> 00:31:47.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:31:47.220 --> 00:31:54.660 Scott Holmes: It's the next… for me, it was the next step. It involved meridians, it involved, walking through different aspects.
00:31:55.620 --> 00:31:59.690 Scott Holmes: And I said… and I thought to myself, wow, this is way cool.
00:31:59.890 --> 00:32:02.759 Scott Holmes: And so, in order to,
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:08.039 Scott Holmes: Get licensed and… or get your certificate. You have to practice on a lot of people.
00:32:08.610 --> 00:32:09.550 Scott Holmes: So…
00:32:09.810 --> 00:32:22.110 Scott Holmes: So I had to… I took my table, and I invited all my friends and family, and I said, come on down, and we're gonna do this. I have to do a number of hours in doing this. And I really enjoyed it.
00:32:22.110 --> 00:32:22.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:29.069 Scott Holmes: Then, all these different aspects kept coming up with people that I… when I had them on the table.
00:32:29.740 --> 00:32:38.969 Scott Holmes: Oh, I felt this. Oh, my… my… my grandmother came to see me while I was on the table. Now, all of these things I started seeing.
00:32:39.370 --> 00:32:48.879 Scott Holmes: I could never see that before. And intuitively, I understood things about their body, about their emotions, about all of that.
00:32:49.210 --> 00:32:52.210 Scott Holmes: that I never thought I could ever see.
00:32:53.500 --> 00:33:00.280 Scott Holmes: And so, I wanted to know more, and I don't know about you, because I know you have a number of different modalities, that.
00:33:00.280 --> 00:33:00.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.809 Scott Holmes: that… I went down rabbit holes.
00:33:07.510 --> 00:33:12.380 Scott Holmes: A friend of mine who I'd met, who was a medium, also taught theta.
00:33:12.530 --> 00:33:13.750 Scott Holmes: Data healing.
00:33:13.750 --> 00:33:14.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:23.460 Scott Holmes: and theta… It's a different aspect, where you're dealing with the subconscious, and you're changing beliefs.
00:33:24.270 --> 00:33:28.580 Scott Holmes: And thinking about healing on a very quick, quick way.
00:33:29.870 --> 00:33:42.909 Scott Holmes: After my wife had passed, by the way, I just wanted to add that I went through 5 years of psychotherapy, and… and I had a… She was absolutely wonderful, because she never let me get away with a thing.
00:33:44.420 --> 00:33:57.769 Scott Holmes: She… she really helped me peel all of the… all the armor I had put on from years and years and years of just trying to make it through the day of being in survival mode. To be able to peel all that off.
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:06.879 Scott Holmes: to feel lighter and brighter with more clarity, and realizing that my true strength was in here. It was right here with me.
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:19.310 Scott Holmes: I didn't need to put up… build walls, I didn't need to put up moats, I didn't need to wear armor, or carry a sword all the time. I had that strength within me to be able to walk into any room and never feel challenged.
00:34:20.090 --> 00:34:20.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:34:20.860 --> 00:34:24.059 Scott Holmes: And it… it really,
00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:41.369 Scott Holmes: throughout all of that, it just has been added. I added white time, universal white time healing, I did coaching. I constantly take, seminars on different modalities so that I can grow.
00:34:41.500 --> 00:34:46.330 Scott Holmes: I do these things for me. I don't know about you, but in learning the modalities.
00:34:46.550 --> 00:34:51.759 Scott Holmes: I did it for me. I wanted to know these things. I wanted to understand about me.
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:52.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:34:52.580 --> 00:35:01.989 Scott Holmes: I wanted to experience these things. Why I travel is because it's the same way… I wanted to experience it. You know, it's one thing to see a picture of
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:03.440 Scott Holmes: the Alps.
00:35:03.900 --> 00:35:04.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:35:04.300 --> 00:35:05.829 Scott Holmes: You see one mountain, you see them all.
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:14.609 Scott Holmes: But when you're driving through the Alps, and every time you turn a corner, there's a new vista, there is a new…
00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:23.439 Scott Holmes: thing to see. And while I was driving through the Alps, there is this hum that those mountains provide.
00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:25.910 Scott Holmes: That is just palpable.
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.679 Scott Holmes: when I went to Peru and I was in the Andes.
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.369 Scott Holmes: Those mountains have an energy like nothing I've ever felt before.
00:35:34.380 --> 00:35:35.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:39.940 Scott Holmes: when I was in India, And I was in the Himalayas, in the mid-Himalayas.
00:35:41.150 --> 00:35:45.130 Scott Holmes: There is a… And we were in the Valley of the Gods.
00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:51.660 Scott Holmes: And… You expected… Something miraculous to happen.
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:56.090 Scott Holmes: As you walked down the road, it was just that feeling of anticipation.
00:35:56.540 --> 00:35:57.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:35:57.890 --> 00:36:05.460 Scott Holmes: All of that is experiential. I… you can take a picture of anything, and a mountain looks like a mountain looks like a mountain, but when you are standing there.
00:36:05.750 --> 00:36:09.580 Scott Holmes: I'm leaving… I'm leaving for Egypt in a week.
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.900 Scott Holmes: I leave on the 13th and the 15th. I… I… at sunrise, I am at the feet
00:36:15.150 --> 00:36:16.459 Scott Holmes: of the Sphinx.
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:17.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Nice.
00:36:17.690 --> 00:36:24.909 Scott Holmes: something… I mean, we've seen so many pictures, so many models, so many shows about it, but I'm gonna be there.
00:36:25.120 --> 00:36:25.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:36:26.160 --> 00:36:30.880 Scott Holmes: and everybody I've spoken to that has gone to Egypt has said that the energy in Egypt
00:36:31.390 --> 00:36:35.599 Scott Holmes: is off the charts. You get into some of those sites, and you just…
00:36:37.080 --> 00:36:43.229 Scott Holmes: It takes your breath away because of the energies that are there, as old as they are, as holy as they are.
00:36:44.950 --> 00:36:49.059 Scott Holmes: So I… I do these things for me, and I be… I'm able to…
00:36:50.390 --> 00:36:56.650 Scott Holmes: Bring those experiences to people, to be able to show them, to see them, to share it.
00:36:56.930 --> 00:37:03.689 Scott Holmes: I've always felt that once you know something, If you don't share it, What's the sense?
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:05.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, what's the point?
00:37:05.030 --> 00:37:06.040 Scott Holmes: What's the point?
00:37:06.220 --> 00:37:13.790 Scott Holmes: You gonna put it in a safe and lock it away and hold it? No, it's that sharing of it that really is…
00:37:13.930 --> 00:37:19.329 Scott Holmes: What life is all about, what growth is all about, what consciousness is about.
00:37:20.250 --> 00:37:35.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm curious, as you said, in the Valley of the Gods, you expected something miraculous to happen. With all the people that you've worked on and the different energy modalities that you've learned, have you had anything ever miraculous happen with a client?
00:37:35.350 --> 00:37:36.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: With someone you've worked with?
00:37:38.550 --> 00:37:51.899 Scott Holmes: Yeah, this one's… this one's tough. She came in, and, I live in an immigrant, big immigrant community here. I live in… just south of Boston.
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:53.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:37:53.110 --> 00:37:55.499 Scott Holmes: And he was from the Caribbean Islands.
00:37:56.130 --> 00:38:03.510 Scott Holmes: And… She was in… you could just see she was beaten down, and she walked in.
00:38:04.570 --> 00:38:08.690 Scott Holmes: and said, I have been… Cursed by a witch.
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:10.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:12.909 Scott Holmes: I said, okay.
00:38:13.170 --> 00:38:17.919 Scott Holmes: No, I… for me, I haven't had any kind of experience with any of that.
00:38:18.100 --> 00:38:20.760 Scott Holmes: But I know it can be powerful, and the belief can be powerful.
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:33.010 Scott Holmes: She had lost 20… 20-plus pounds in 3 months. She couldn't eat, she couldn't sleep, she cried most of the time, she was just… miserable.
00:38:33.370 --> 00:38:34.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:38:36.160 --> 00:38:42.869 Scott Holmes: And she said, I just need this to stop, I need it to stop. And so we walked through it. I got her on the table.
00:38:43.370 --> 00:38:47.900 Scott Holmes: And… Started doing a clearing.
00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:49.809 Scott Holmes: And as we… we…
00:38:50.090 --> 00:38:57.869 Scott Holmes: I removed the… helped her remove the energy, she was screaming. It was something out of a movie where…
00:38:59.120 --> 00:39:08.789 Scott Holmes: Oh, she was beside herself. She was literally just kind of writhing off the table, and she was in such pain, and I stopped, and I…
00:39:09.260 --> 00:39:22.350 Scott Holmes: Okay, what do I do? I calmed her down. I said, is this something you want to continue? She said, yes, get it out of me, get it out of me, get it out of me. And so I thought, well, energy is energy is energy. No matter what
00:39:22.570 --> 00:39:24.080 Scott Holmes: What form it takes.
00:39:24.910 --> 00:39:26.959 Scott Holmes: And so, for the next 20 minutes.
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:36.659 Scott Holmes: I helped clear that energy, and could literally, in my mind's eye, C, black, black, dark.
00:39:37.350 --> 00:39:39.820 Scott Holmes: Smoke just pouring out of her.
00:39:39.820 --> 00:39:40.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And going.
00:39:41.570 --> 00:39:44.559 Scott Holmes: Until I could see no more, and then…
00:39:45.150 --> 00:39:47.789 Scott Holmes: I filled her with white, white light.
00:39:48.930 --> 00:39:53.399 Scott Holmes: And she was exhausted. She was… she was screaming half the time.
00:39:53.630 --> 00:39:55.760 Scott Holmes: Said it was clawing at her.
00:39:56.090 --> 00:39:56.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm…
00:39:58.130 --> 00:40:01.099 Scott Holmes: I didn't know at that moment if I had…
00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:04.339 Scott Holmes: Done something really, really good or really, really bad.
00:40:06.570 --> 00:40:09.929 Scott Holmes: But I called her two days later, and she said.
00:40:10.510 --> 00:40:13.199 Scott Holmes: I slept last night for the first time in months.
00:40:13.750 --> 00:40:14.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you.
00:40:14.950 --> 00:40:23.090 Scott Holmes: She was able to eat, she was able to put back weight… weight back on, and she was able to take… start taking care of her 3 kids.
00:40:23.390 --> 00:40:31.380 Scott Holmes: And it was… those… that moment that I said, I guess I can do this work. I can…
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.720 Scott Holmes: come up with against things. I mean, I've had visions.
00:40:35.100 --> 00:40:38.269 Scott Holmes: In working with people, I'm not someone who can see.
00:40:38.450 --> 00:40:44.609 Scott Holmes: see things, you know, I'm not… I don't have any mediumship, I don't have any of those things.
00:40:44.750 --> 00:40:49.699 Scott Holmes: Going to school, they'd put somebody up against a white wall, and they'd say, okay, you read their aura.
00:40:50.160 --> 00:40:50.809 Scott Holmes: And I've…
00:40:51.620 --> 00:41:01.760 Scott Holmes: I would be focused, and someone would say, oh my goodness, the green orbs that are flowing around, and the colors, and I'd be staring
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:04.480 Scott Holmes: I got nothing. Nothing. Never doing.
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But…
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:13.249 Scott Holmes: What I found is that with… in working with energy, that intuitively, I get a knowing, I get an understanding. I don't… I don't see…
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:18.209 Scott Holmes: Things that way. And… It hasn't steered me wrong yet.
00:41:18.330 --> 00:41:19.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:20.640 Scott Holmes: In that aspect.
00:41:21.150 --> 00:41:25.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. Wonderful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you follow the energy.
00:41:25.470 --> 00:41:34.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's something. I'm curious about your involvement with this collaboration book from Burnout to Burning Bright.
00:41:34.670 --> 00:41:40.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, I've heard a lot of people talk about burnout, but they're usually talking about it from more of a…
00:41:40.730 --> 00:41:44.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I guess, physical point of view, or mental point of view.
00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:51.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How is this, something more energetic for you?
00:41:53.030 --> 00:41:57.820 Scott Holmes: Well, there's… it's… Myself and 24 other authors, and…
00:41:58.630 --> 00:42:01.839 Scott Holmes: My publisher came to me and said.
00:42:02.090 --> 00:42:09.049 Scott Holmes: You've… I really… it's time for you to write a book. I've written in over a dozen collaborations, and she…
00:42:09.220 --> 00:42:10.190 Scott Holmes: So…
00:42:10.390 --> 00:42:17.230 Scott Holmes: I don't even know where it came from. I'm sitting on the… a porch in Cape Cod, overlooking Martha's Vineyard.
00:42:17.420 --> 00:42:24.920 Scott Holmes: And from burnout to burning bright, came, put it on the paper, and it's been that way ever since. I don't even know where it came from, but…
00:42:25.110 --> 00:42:25.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was a boat.
00:42:25.620 --> 00:42:26.610 Scott Holmes: burnout.
00:42:27.750 --> 00:42:40.819 Scott Holmes: When we look at burnout, we think about work. You know, somebody who works… is working 12, 14, 15 hours a day, and it starts consuming their life, and it controls the different aspects of their life, and it…
00:42:42.230 --> 00:42:44.360 Scott Holmes: It takes away from the rest of their life.
00:42:45.640 --> 00:42:50.990 Scott Holmes: and… Burnout was more than that, I… the authors that I…
00:42:51.260 --> 00:42:55.510 Scott Holmes: I asked, and I very consciously chose them.
00:42:55.810 --> 00:43:04.470 Scott Holmes: They said it was probably one of the toughest pieces they wrote, because it was at the worst, they had to revisit the worst part of the point of their life.
00:43:04.710 --> 00:43:10.730 Scott Holmes: That point, when they… had nothing left. When they… so…
00:43:13.210 --> 00:43:18.470 Scott Holmes: Down, and out, and didn't see any way out. Saw no light at the end of the tunnel.
00:43:19.310 --> 00:43:24.670 Scott Holmes: Now, I had my own version of that when my wife was
00:43:24.950 --> 00:43:29.079 Scott Holmes: Diagnosed with breast cancer. We were already dealing with our daughter.
00:43:29.550 --> 00:43:35.340 Scott Holmes: And I… I didn't know… how I could possibly walk through this.
00:43:35.670 --> 00:43:41.139 Scott Holmes: It was at that, you know, that low point in my life.
00:43:41.690 --> 00:43:48.379 Scott Holmes: And so… And I'm sure you've spoken to many, many people about long-term caregiving.
00:43:48.750 --> 00:43:54.700 Scott Holmes: And how you maintain a sense of survival more than anything else.
00:43:55.460 --> 00:44:04.790 Scott Holmes: And… In doing that, you lose aspects of yourself. You forget about self-care, you forget about
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.089 Scott Holmes: You know, yourself, because you're doing for others.
00:44:09.620 --> 00:44:17.600 Scott Holmes: And in doing the book, I brought herbalists, Psychologists,
00:44:18.670 --> 00:44:22.970 Scott Holmes: About 20 different modalities of energy work.
00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:28.270 Scott Holmes: To tell their story, and how they… what tools they use in order to…
00:44:28.940 --> 00:44:31.370 Scott Holmes: Come out of it. How to see it differently.
00:44:33.380 --> 00:44:38.800 Scott Holmes: And for anybody going through it, there's no one way to do anything, right?
00:44:39.110 --> 00:44:47.000 Scott Holmes: There's no one way or one practice that's going to bring you there. It depends on where you are vibrationally in that moment when you read it.
00:44:47.770 --> 00:44:53.090 Scott Holmes: Why I love collaborations, because it gives you those different perspectives.
00:44:54.530 --> 00:45:01.280 Scott Holmes: And the spirituality of it And the… and the woo, if you will, It's about mindset.
00:45:02.020 --> 00:45:02.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:45:02.540 --> 00:45:12.789 Scott Holmes: about belief in yourself, and about knowing that you can get through it. And when you have these many stories of people who have come out on the other side and been successful.
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.970 Scott Holmes: They show that you can Also do that.
00:45:16.970 --> 00:45:20.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Was there any common thread throughout all the different stories?
00:45:22.520 --> 00:45:30.569 Scott Holmes: I think the… I think… truly think the common thread was The… the… everybody came back.
00:45:31.110 --> 00:45:36.230 Scott Holmes: to who they were. Everybody… everybody found that place within themselves
00:45:36.720 --> 00:45:39.010 Scott Holmes: That they knew was there, but couldn't find.
00:45:39.520 --> 00:45:45.570 Scott Holmes: That they knew Their authentic self Could bring them through it.
00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:59.119 Scott Holmes: And that no matter what their circumstance, whether it was their upbringing, their… something that happened, either through divorce, through anything else that they have been through, that
00:45:59.940 --> 00:46:05.800 Scott Holmes: Probably wasn't even their fault, that they could make it through, and they found that strength within themselves.
00:46:06.330 --> 00:46:12.309 Scott Holmes: And that's that going inward part of it again, is being able to… and being able to see it.
00:46:12.700 --> 00:46:18.600 Scott Holmes: The other part is, Finding… some sort of…
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:27.349 Scott Holmes: comfort and… and help, and being asked… being able to ask for help. Being able to go outside yourself.
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:28.930 Scott Holmes: for support.
00:46:29.690 --> 00:46:35.940 Scott Holmes: Because when you're in the middle of that, It's pretty individualized, it's pretty… You're pretty self-sufficient.
00:46:37.090 --> 00:46:42.970 Scott Holmes: And… you don't… Think anybody really, truly understands what you're going through.
00:46:43.350 --> 00:46:47.699 Scott Holmes: Well, this book shows that there are a lot of people out there that understand.
00:46:47.940 --> 00:46:50.020 Scott Holmes: They had been there.
00:46:50.190 --> 00:46:53.500 Scott Holmes: Cut the t-shirt, It may be really,
00:46:54.060 --> 00:46:58.519 Scott Holmes: Torn, ragged, but they got the t-shirt and they've been through it, so…
00:46:59.680 --> 00:47:03.380 Scott Holmes: You can make it too, and that's that inspirational aspect of it.
00:47:04.330 --> 00:47:12.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What was… what was your… Anchor that helped you through your own burnout.
00:47:16.220 --> 00:47:25.390 Scott Holmes: The anchor for me was… Knowing… originally, it was that I couldn't not go on.
00:47:25.580 --> 00:47:33.479 Scott Holmes: That my family… my family, I had 3 daughters, I had my wife, I had… everything was depending on me, and I had to be the rock.
00:47:34.790 --> 00:47:41.230 Scott Holmes: And… That's what held me there in point of time.
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:43.550 Scott Holmes: was that I was that rock.
00:47:45.610 --> 00:47:51.719 Scott Holmes: and that… Eventually, it started to blossom from that.
00:47:51.950 --> 00:47:57.460 Scott Holmes: But it was a slow process. Burnout can be… A year? Two years?
00:47:57.600 --> 00:48:00.570 Scott Holmes: Or… Can be 10 years.
00:48:02.240 --> 00:48:07.199 Scott Holmes: The understanding of where you are, and somebody showing you where you are.
00:48:07.300 --> 00:48:14.020 Scott Holmes: And realizing that you are that far down is probably one of the hardest parts.
00:48:14.550 --> 00:48:19.510 Scott Holmes: And I had a couple friends who came to me and said, hey, you're in trouble, bud.
00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:23.680 Scott Holmes: And… and that's where I started getting help.
00:48:23.970 --> 00:48:28.869 Scott Holmes: And through Al-Anon, I went faithfully for 5 years to Al-Anon.
00:48:30.060 --> 00:48:34.739 Scott Holmes: At the time, because that was the one place that I could feel
00:48:35.730 --> 00:48:38.069 Scott Holmes: Free of judgment, free of…
00:48:38.580 --> 00:48:41.640 Scott Holmes: all the burdens that I had for that hour.
00:48:42.100 --> 00:48:42.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:48:44.810 --> 00:48:46.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How do you keep…
00:48:47.550 --> 00:48:55.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: from having, you know, profound burnout is really what you're talking about. Like, you're not just talking about light stuff, you're talking about profound burnout.
00:48:55.170 --> 00:48:57.879 Scott Holmes: We're not talking about tired. I'm talking about overwhelm.
00:48:58.290 --> 00:49:02.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How do you keep that from… from becoming trauma?
00:49:02.410 --> 00:49:04.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How do you keep that from…
00:49:04.640 --> 00:49:10.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Getting so instilled in your nervous system that they have to do something really extreme to unwind it.
00:49:11.510 --> 00:49:12.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or can you?
00:49:13.700 --> 00:49:33.509 Scott Holmes: Well, you've seen it time and time again. How do people deal with burnout, with overwhelm? They, look to whatever ism they, they, is their choice, whether it's sex, alcohol, drugs, whatever it is to take the edge off, and that's when it becomes ingrained.
00:49:34.200 --> 00:49:34.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and…
00:49:34.600 --> 00:49:38.020 Scott Holmes: sense of survival becomes ingrained. And…
00:49:38.190 --> 00:49:41.959 Scott Holmes: As we know, it's not until somebody hits… generally hits.
00:49:42.410 --> 00:49:47.010 Scott Holmes: Their bottom, whatever that looks like, before they look for help.
00:49:49.450 --> 00:49:55.700 Scott Holmes: My wish is that people see and understand and read this, and understand that before they get to that
00:49:55.810 --> 00:49:58.150 Scott Holmes: Really bottom-out place.
00:49:58.390 --> 00:50:02.700 Scott Holmes: To be able to look for Help, guidance?
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.609 Scott Holmes: Grounding, To be able to walk
00:50:06.330 --> 00:50:09.340 Scott Holmes: Forward, rather than stay right in that pit.
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:18.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, I once had someone on my show many, many years ago, local gentleman I met.
00:50:19.020 --> 00:50:26.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who, you know, he had said he came to New York City and became an alcoholic and really hit rock bottom.
00:50:26.300 --> 00:50:36.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I said, oh, that's good, then you finally turned around. He goes, no, it's not good, because people always think you can't go any lower from rock bottom, but you can stay there for a while.
00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:41.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he said that's what happened to him until he got help and then got out of it.
00:50:42.640 --> 00:50:44.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How do we shorten that time?
00:50:49.640 --> 00:50:55.030 Scott Holmes: That's a great question. I'm dealing with a neighbor next door who is good.
00:50:56.060 --> 00:51:00.410 Scott Holmes: she's not confirmed, but, you know, she's losing it. She's in her 80s, and…
00:51:00.410 --> 00:51:00.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Mmm.
00:51:00.930 --> 00:51:13.000 Scott Holmes: been independent all of her life, has told her family, you know, I've got this, and pushed them all away, and now that she needs somebody, they've… she's trained them all not to… not to worry about her.
00:51:13.230 --> 00:51:21.140 Scott Holmes: Yeah. So now she's next door, and when she locks herself out of the car, when she locks herself out of the house, when she gets lost.
00:51:21.140 --> 00:51:22.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Becomes.
00:51:22.010 --> 00:51:22.690 Scott Holmes: to me.
00:51:22.820 --> 00:51:31.979 Scott Holmes: So… The hard part for that is she doesn't… Allow help into our life.
00:51:32.160 --> 00:51:36.549 Scott Holmes: Very easily. Because I've asked to try and get help into the house, nope, nope, nope.
00:51:36.690 --> 00:51:40.899 Scott Holmes: She will let me in, but she's not gonna let anybody else in, so…
00:51:41.430 --> 00:51:43.900 Scott Holmes: How do you go about somebody who doesn't
00:51:44.030 --> 00:51:47.219 Scott Holmes: Know how to ask for help, has been told
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:55.200 Scott Holmes: They don't need help, or is too ashamed of where they are, In order to ask Anybody.
00:51:55.510 --> 00:52:07.500 Scott Holmes: Because they don't think they're deserving enough. How do we shorten that? It's just… I think for me, it's about caring, about putting the mirror up, about…
00:52:08.110 --> 00:52:13.890 Scott Holmes: Being consistent with… being there for them.
00:52:14.590 --> 00:52:17.859 Scott Holmes: And there are times when you have to walk away, because…
00:52:17.980 --> 00:52:18.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:19.119 Scott Holmes: There is none.
00:52:21.310 --> 00:52:22.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:32.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 100%, 100%. I'm curious, because you have a very, you know, different kind of background.
00:52:33.710 --> 00:52:38.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you've really sort of transformed your life over the years.
00:52:40.560 --> 00:52:50.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What aspect of your own life do you think you see the most different than you did before getting involved in energy healing and all this?
00:52:50.870 --> 00:52:52.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Quote-unquote woo stuff.
00:52:53.880 --> 00:53:02.069 Scott Holmes: So I was… I… I would push for work, I would always push, I've always wanted to achieve, I wanted to do… to…
00:53:02.410 --> 00:53:10.629 Scott Holmes: constantly move ahead. I, my current wife, we work together.
00:53:11.060 --> 00:53:11.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:53:11.600 --> 00:53:15.979 Scott Holmes: And back then, she knew me peripherally.
00:53:16.550 --> 00:53:20.500 Scott Holmes: But she said, you are the biggest… Jerk, I knew.
00:53:23.090 --> 00:53:26.450 Scott Holmes: She said, I didn't like you at all, because…
00:53:26.640 --> 00:53:32.429 Scott Holmes: I was in sales, I was forward, I was constantly, I was pushing. Constantly.
00:53:34.270 --> 00:53:38.240 Scott Holmes: And… Awareness.
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:43.789 Scott Holmes: Actually, at that point in my life, I didn't really care what people thought of me, I just kept walking through it.
00:53:44.790 --> 00:53:51.329 Scott Holmes: now the not caring is a little bit different. It took me…
00:53:51.580 --> 00:53:53.620 Scott Holmes: A million miles to go from my heart.
00:53:53.780 --> 00:53:55.179 Scott Holmes: My head to my heart.
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:55.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:00.230 Scott Holmes: And that was a million-mile journey, and once I got
00:54:01.020 --> 00:54:05.859 Scott Holmes: to the heart is when I started Seeing life through compassion.
00:54:06.250 --> 00:54:06.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:54:06.930 --> 00:54:08.020 Scott Holmes: understanding.
00:54:09.670 --> 00:54:13.129 Scott Holmes: And I started treating people so much nicer.
00:54:13.260 --> 00:54:17.269 Scott Holmes: I had so much fewer judgments. I had…
00:54:17.490 --> 00:54:24.059 Scott Holmes: I accepted people and things for who and what they were, rather than what my expectations were.
00:54:25.610 --> 00:54:26.990 Scott Holmes: And that's where…
00:54:27.660 --> 00:54:34.660 Scott Holmes: the changes in me came. That was the biggest change in me. And I started… I stopped having to prove myself.
00:54:35.100 --> 00:54:35.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:54:37.250 --> 00:54:39.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. Wonderful.
00:54:43.420 --> 00:54:51.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, life today is different than it was in the past, and change is constantly accelerating, right? We're…
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:58.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean, I can't even imagine what the world's gonna be like in 5 years, you know, let alone 5 months.
00:54:58.520 --> 00:54:59.080 Scott Holmes: Yep.
00:54:59.530 --> 00:55:03.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What… what can you offer our audience to help them
00:55:04.090 --> 00:55:15.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to deal with that constant change? What… what practice, or what perspective, or just what… is there a tool that you can offer our audience just to
00:55:15.590 --> 00:55:21.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Help them with the stress that comes with living in time of great change as we are.
00:55:23.430 --> 00:55:27.039 Scott Holmes: what I've found is change happens
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:31.160 Scott Holmes: That we can accept, that our body can accept, in micro…
00:55:31.370 --> 00:55:33.800 Scott Holmes: changes. One click at a time.
00:55:34.210 --> 00:55:37.830 Scott Holmes: And in order to do that, we have to develop rituals
00:55:38.650 --> 00:55:54.270 Scott Holmes: And the difference between a ritual and a habit is rituals are things we do consistently, consciously, with intention. Not just putting your keys down in the same place every time, and you go to find your keys, and they're not there, and you go, where did I put them?
00:55:54.730 --> 00:55:57.590 Scott Holmes: It's a matter of being conscious while you're doing it.
00:55:57.820 --> 00:55:59.220 Scott Holmes: Yoga practice.
00:55:59.580 --> 00:56:07.240 Scott Holmes: And all of that, on a daily basis, allows you To really be conscious, Clear.
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.520 Scott Holmes: Grounded, so that you can walk through the day.
00:56:11.340 --> 00:56:24.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful. Well, Scott, it's been a pleasure having you on the show. Unfortunately, we only have an hour. If people want to learn more about you or get in touch with you, where can they find you online? How would they reach out to you?
00:56:24.450 --> 00:56:28.850 Scott Holmes: rscottholmes.com, and you can find me there.
00:56:29.010 --> 00:56:31.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's the R stand for?
00:56:31.540 --> 00:56:33.109 Scott Holmes: Richard is my first name.
00:56:33.110 --> 00:56:34.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Why don't you use it?
00:56:35.590 --> 00:56:40.220 Scott Holmes: Because I've been called Scott Holmes all my life, and I asked my mom, and she said.
00:56:40.730 --> 00:56:45.019 Scott Holmes: I said, why did you name me Richard? She said, well, we thought Scott Holmes was too short.
00:56:45.310 --> 00:56:46.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't…
00:56:48.090 --> 00:56:58.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful. Scott, thank you so much. Enjoy your travels. I appreciate you and the work you do, and I hope your message travels far and wide.
00:56:59.250 --> 00:57:01.540 Scott Holmes: Thank you, Sam. It was a sincere pleasure.
00:57:01.710 --> 00:57:20.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Absolutely, thank you. And of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in each week. Without you, there is no show. And don't forget, if you did miss any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on talkradio.nyc and on your favorite podcasting platforms, Apple, Spotify, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Amazon.
00:57:20.350 --> 00:57:25.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you all for tuning in. Take care, we will talk to you all next week.
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