Join Shervon Laurice in The Expansion Room as she welcomes psychologist and author Linda Marsanico, whose memoir A Train to Sedona explores the courageous shift from fear to love, compassion, and inner freedom.
In this uplifting conversation, Linda shares the pivotal moments that shaped her spiritual awakening, how she integrates psychology with heart-centered living, and the practices that help us heal old patterns and return to our true nature.
If you’re moving through a season of personal transformation or seeking a deeper connection with love, presence, and your highest self, this episode offers grounded wisdom, embodied tools, and a powerful reminder that the journey inward is the path home.
Linda Marsanico writes and blogs about love, compassion, playfulness, visualization, meditation, and stillness as a road to a joy-filled life. She encourages clients to develop the muscle of meditation and mantra as a support for a disciplined mind.
Linda is a spiritual coach who considers the mind body & spirit of a person. She sees
herself as a healer, employing Reiki, Vortex (R) and Integrated Energy (R) modalities.
Website - LindaMarsanico.com
Twitter X - @LMarsanico
LinkedIn - www.linkedin.co/in/linda-marsanico-b2854a5b/
Facebook - www.Facebook.com/profile.php?id=00007089480249
Email - lindamarsanicophd@gmail.com
Video: The Intro of The A Train to Sedona
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Recorded TalkRadioNYC Shows:
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In the first segment of The Expansion Room, Shervon invites guest Linda Marsanico to share her spiritual journey, which began with joining the Park Slope Food Co-op and a spiritual group in Sedona after 9/11. She describes her experiences with meditation, chanting, and healings, emphasizing the importance of finding practices that resonate with one's heart rather than adhering to dogma. Linda then shares how she wrote a memoir, "The A Train to Sedona," to share her experiences and "shortcuts" that helped her, hoping to assist others in their spiritual journeys. She highlights the value of making decisions that feel right and learning from both successes and failures, while Shervon acknowledges the significance of these lessons in shaping one's reality.
In the second segment Linda shares with us her spiritual journey, which began in her 50s when she had a profound experience of interconnectedness with the universe. She described how her faith was restored by a clairvoyant, and how she later discovered the power of Sedona's energy vortexes. Linda explaines how her spiritual growth influenced her psychology practice, allowing her to sense and address her clients' unconscious issues. She emphasizes the importance of letting go of distractions to connect with one's multidimensional self and the guidance available from spiritual beings when asked for help.
The third segment begins with Linda and Shervon discussing the importance of taking personal responsibility for one's spirituality and self-awareness, emphasizing the power of reaching out to friends, professionals, and even angels for support. Linda shares her experience of having spiritual friends with whom she consults for guidance, highlighting the value of trust and diverse perspectives in such relationships. They also touch on the evolution of technology, particularly the convenience of texting for quick communication, before concluding the segment with plans to discuss moments of grace and the train to love in the next part of their conversation.
The Final segment begins with Shervon and Linda discussing Linda's four-stage model for spiritual growth, emphasizing the importance of becoming aware of and transforming negative thoughts into positive affirmations. They touch on the need to identify and change habitual behavioral responses, and suggest meditation and mantra practices as tools for personal development. Linda also stresses the importance of forgiveness and letting go of what does not serve, highlighting that these practices not only benefit others but also contribute to one's own spiritual growth.
00:01:10.370 --> 00:01:16.640 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Hello, and welcome back to the Expansion Room, the space where inner work meets impact.
00:01:16.970 --> 00:01:25.410 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And today, we have a special guest. Linder Mosanico has joined me to have a conversation about
00:01:25.520 --> 00:01:33.439 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Her path… to self-compassion. This journey of… From fear to love.
00:01:34.250 --> 00:01:41.389 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: In the space of mental health, in psychology, which most people don't really think of.
00:01:41.490 --> 00:01:51.009 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: as a space that encompasses spirituality, right? And so we're going to have a lovely conversation around that.
00:01:51.110 --> 00:02:10.950 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: She will share about her journey of healing and self-compassion, and her memoir, The A-Train to Sedona, which explores how clinical understanding and spiritual experience intertwine on the path to self-compassion and healing. So, welcome, Linda.
00:02:10.949 --> 00:02:30.749 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And most of the people on this particular platform, talkradio.nyc, will also remember that Linda hosted her own podcast with the same name, The A Train to Sedona. So, Linda, tell us a little bit about yourself and what you've been up to since
00:02:30.750 --> 00:02:34.980 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: The podcast, and then we will dive into the book.
00:02:35.570 --> 00:02:40.119 Linda Marsanico: Well, I'm a psychologist and a spiritual coach.
00:02:40.530 --> 00:02:48.360 Linda Marsanico: I'm a Reiki master, as well as I work with Integrated energy and vortex energy.
00:02:48.470 --> 00:02:56.690 Linda Marsanico: And you asked what I was doing. This last weekend, as a birthday gift, I took myself to Kripalo Yoga
00:02:57.340 --> 00:02:58.220 Linda Marsanico: Center.
00:02:59.110 --> 00:02:59.860 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yay!
00:02:59.860 --> 00:03:04.209 Linda Marsanico: It was amazing. Now, for me, it's a three and a half hour drive.
00:03:04.670 --> 00:03:05.130 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:03:05.130 --> 00:03:05.550 Linda Marsanico: would
00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:18.020 Linda Marsanico: Rock Ridge, Massachusetts, but I just have to get myself there, and the energy was so loving, the people, such a good vibe. I read, I went to yoga.
00:03:18.070 --> 00:03:18.849 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I mean…
00:03:18.850 --> 00:03:24.259 Linda Marsanico: And I came away With a deep feeling of peace.
00:03:24.750 --> 00:03:26.160 Linda Marsanico: Oh, so wonderful.
00:03:26.160 --> 00:03:26.770 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Beautiful.
00:03:26.770 --> 00:03:36.789 Linda Marsanico: It is absolutely wonderful. So here I am. So since… I mean, I was on Talk Radio New York City for almost a year.
00:03:37.090 --> 00:03:37.570 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Hmm.
00:03:37.570 --> 00:03:47.519 Linda Marsanico: enjoyed it so much, learned so much. It's a wonderful family show. Sam Leibowitz is a great, founder and executive producer.
00:03:48.310 --> 00:03:53.250 Linda Marsanico: Since I've left, At first, I thought, what am I going to do with myself?
00:03:53.250 --> 00:03:55.700 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Fine!
00:03:55.700 --> 00:03:58.389 Linda Marsanico: You know all the work involved, and…
00:03:58.390 --> 00:03:58.970 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Indeed.
00:03:58.970 --> 00:04:03.689 Linda Marsanico: Hiding people, interviewing them, and doing episode summaries, and more and more and more.
00:04:04.830 --> 00:04:07.750 Linda Marsanico: Yet… I'm…
00:04:08.760 --> 00:04:17.739 Linda Marsanico: able… I signed up to be a volunteer at CHIPS, which is a soup kitchen that I've wanted to be a volunteer with for years.
00:04:17.740 --> 00:04:18.350 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Okay.
00:04:18.350 --> 00:04:23.659 Linda Marsanico: I'm more social, I wrote my first blog in, like, 11 months.
00:04:23.660 --> 00:04:24.780 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Okay!
00:04:24.780 --> 00:04:27.949 Linda Marsanico: Change in perspective, it was great.
00:04:28.520 --> 00:04:34.909 Linda Marsanico: And I'm working out more and doing yoga more. So I'm feeling more fit.
00:04:35.430 --> 00:04:39.330 Linda Marsanico: Coupled with Kripalo and the deep sense of peace.
00:04:39.550 --> 00:04:46.279 Linda Marsanico: I feel better than I felt. I feel really grounded and centered, and in the love vibration.
00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:59.649 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. I'm glad to hear it. Kripalu is a most magical place. I haven't been in years, but my time there was well spent. Beautiful place to go.
00:04:59.660 --> 00:05:02.700 Linda Marsanico: My drive is a little longer than yours.
00:05:03.110 --> 00:05:04.360 Linda Marsanico: You're in Maryland, aren't you?
00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:05.880 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes!
00:05:05.880 --> 00:05:07.470 Linda Marsanico: Wow, that would be…
00:05:07.790 --> 00:05:09.499 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: It was a while, yes.
00:05:09.500 --> 00:05:11.929 Linda Marsanico: So maybe if you went with someone, yeah.
00:05:11.930 --> 00:05:30.580 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: It was so worth it. It was beautiful. So I've kept them on my radar. I was supposed to go to a workshop there, I believe it was 2020, which, of course, it got canceled, so I haven't, like, made another venture to schedule something else, but I definitely want to go back.
00:05:30.930 --> 00:05:34.190 Linda Marsanico: If you drove with someone else, you could share the driving.
00:05:34.190 --> 00:05:36.100 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah, then it's more lovely.
00:05:36.380 --> 00:05:38.950 Linda Marsanico: Yeah, I was by myself,
00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.050 Linda Marsanico: And, you know, it speaks for itself.
00:05:42.370 --> 00:05:43.060 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:05:43.060 --> 00:05:49.269 Linda Marsanico: So I've been busy, I put a holiday list together today, and I'm gonna start doing some shopping, and…
00:05:49.380 --> 00:05:51.900 Linda Marsanico: I'm delighted to be on your show.
00:05:51.900 --> 00:05:56.019 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Wonderful. I'm so delighted to have you. So…
00:05:56.330 --> 00:06:02.979 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Tell us a little bit about what led you to write the A train to Sedona.
00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.839 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Like, where did it all begin for you?
00:06:07.590 --> 00:06:16.899 Linda Marsanico: I have to say, it began in Sedona. So, around the time of 9-11, I… Was searching for
00:06:17.470 --> 00:06:23.759 Linda Marsanico: A group, a spiritual group, And then when 9-11 happened, the next week, it was…
00:06:23.970 --> 00:06:25.980 Linda Marsanico: plan that I would be joining the group.
00:06:26.260 --> 00:06:29.570 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: But at 9-11, I felt so bereft.
00:06:29.740 --> 00:06:38.140 Linda Marsanico: I joined… I wanted to be with people, I wanted to be part of something larger than I am, so I joined the Park Slope Food Co-op, which…
00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:39.320 Linda Marsanico: was…
00:06:39.320 --> 00:06:39.860 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: No fan.
00:06:39.860 --> 00:06:48.990 Linda Marsanico: begun in 1973. It's like the United Nations. You walk in, it's the United Nations of people, it's collaborative, and I felt…
00:06:49.300 --> 00:06:58.300 Linda Marsanico: really comforted by that, as well as the group that I joined, a spiritual group led by a clairvoyant healer, and
00:06:58.570 --> 00:07:03.530 Linda Marsanico: I didn't know what they were talking about. We'd meditate every week and talk about things.
00:07:03.740 --> 00:07:09.170 Linda Marsanico: And it was like I was speaking Italian and they were speaking Spanish.
00:07:09.440 --> 00:07:20.559 Linda Marsanico: I didn't understand, so I started to read the metaphysical literature. And one of the beauties of the group and the clairvoyant healer was that she embraced
00:07:20.890 --> 00:07:24.510 Linda Marsanico: all traditions without dogma. She would take
00:07:24.730 --> 00:07:30.809 Linda Marsanico: Wonderful. The beauty of Hinduism, of Buddhism, and just brought it to us.
00:07:31.420 --> 00:07:40.130 Linda Marsanico: And I had such an experience there, with going to her for healings every 3 weeks or so, going every week at first.
00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.880 Linda Marsanico: Chanting and meditating.
00:07:44.050 --> 00:07:47.100 Linda Marsanico: that I had this experience that I wanted to share.
00:07:47.970 --> 00:07:53.340 Linda Marsanico: It was such… I felt so… talk about your expansion room. I felt so expanded.
00:07:53.570 --> 00:07:54.779 Linda Marsanico: that I thought.
00:07:54.970 --> 00:08:05.270 Linda Marsanico: You know, this has taken me a long time, and I think I can share with others and have it take them a shorter time, like being on the express rather than the local.
00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:07.310 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:08:07.700 --> 00:08:13.399 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And we don't… it's funny, because down here in the DC, Maryland area, we don't have express trains.
00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:23.829 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Which I vividly remember as a young kid growing up in New York City, you just watched that train whiz by in a station.
00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:33.580 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: But I think… I think the express trains are fabulous, and I… I can see your idea of wanting to help others to speed up their process.
00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:40.179 Linda Marsanico: Yes, because I… I mean, this is just one journey. We're all in a different reality. We have our reality.
00:08:40.179 --> 00:08:40.579 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:08:40.580 --> 00:08:57.839 Linda Marsanico: This is my reality, and this is what helps me, and I wrote about that. So I found a… an editor, and she didn't know what I was talking about. So I was putting all these components together. And finally, she said, I get it, I get it. So I wrote the book, nobody was interested in it.
00:08:58.810 --> 00:09:10.449 Linda Marsanico: And she said, Linda, if, you know, an author needs to have a website, and you have to blog. I said, there's no way I want to do that. No way. So anyway, rejection after rejection, I said, alright.
00:09:10.630 --> 00:09:13.210 Linda Marsanico: I'm a blogging, here I go.
00:09:13.210 --> 00:09:13.860 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I thought of the.
00:09:13.860 --> 00:09:15.990 Linda Marsanico: website in 2013.
00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:16.810 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Okay.
00:09:16.810 --> 00:09:19.969 Linda Marsanico: I started to love to write. But anyway.
00:09:19.970 --> 00:09:23.780 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: The book was written to have my voice be heard.
00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:31.520 Linda Marsanico: And to share my… Shortcuts.
00:09:31.630 --> 00:09:48.270 Linda Marsanico: what helped me could perhaps help others. This is what I did, this is why I felt. Now, I share a lot of my failures and a lot of my successes. Of course, on the spiritual, when you think of spirituality, there are no mistakes. It's… you make a decision.
00:09:48.470 --> 00:09:50.360 Linda Marsanico: And you learn from that decision.
00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:51.270 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's right.
00:09:51.270 --> 00:10:00.299 Linda Marsanico: And then you go from there, and you learn, and you learn. And my father used to tell me, you know, you're a psychologist, Linda, you practice, when are you going to get perfect?
00:10:02.830 --> 00:10:07.169 Linda Marsanico: And I write in the book that there's no sense of perfection here.
00:10:07.330 --> 00:10:11.480 Linda Marsanico: We work, we move forward, and we make progress.
00:10:11.810 --> 00:10:23.310 Linda Marsanico: If we fail, if we make… if we do something that we don't feel we're happy with, we pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, there's a song that goes like that, and try it, and we do it again.
00:10:23.580 --> 00:10:24.580 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's right.
00:10:24.580 --> 00:10:32.360 Linda Marsanico: No miss… that really are not… we miss the mark, but, every decision leads us somewhere.
00:10:32.560 --> 00:10:33.329 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's right.
00:10:34.110 --> 00:10:41.289 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's right. We step into a different reality or timeline when we make a decision.
00:10:41.550 --> 00:10:48.630 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes. You know, and then we see if that feels good, or feels right for us. If not, we make another decision.
00:10:48.920 --> 00:10:50.840 Linda Marsanico: I mean, that knowing of…
00:10:51.290 --> 00:10:56.399 Linda Marsanico: it feels like it's appropriate in the heart. I get it in the heart, like the music of the heart.
00:10:56.400 --> 00:10:57.360 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: is…
00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:07.850 Linda Marsanico: So, when I was growing up, this brings me to… I went to parochial school, I studied dogma. When I went to the spiritual group, I thought.
00:11:08.310 --> 00:11:12.229 Linda Marsanico: Whatever I take in, Has to resonate in my heart.
00:11:12.860 --> 00:11:20.149 Linda Marsanico: Hard to hire self, hard to hire self. Dogma aside, and I became the architect of my choices.
00:11:20.540 --> 00:11:21.660 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes!
00:11:23.620 --> 00:11:30.289 Linda Marsanico: If it didn't resonate with me, I just put it aside, and as I go, because this is a lifelong journey.
00:11:30.580 --> 00:11:39.919 Linda Marsanico: I have new ideas and new feelings, and I let go of others, because we're always… if our eyes are open and we say yes to the adventure.
00:11:41.070 --> 00:11:49.839 Linda Marsanico: we're gonna make changes, and it's not always comfortable. Thinking of driving three and a half hours to Stockbridge on the Taconic, which I had never driven, ever.
00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:51.689 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh, the Taconic, yes!
00:11:51.690 --> 00:11:53.839 Linda Marsanico: It's winding, there's no shoulder…
00:11:53.840 --> 00:12:01.949 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: You almost feel like you're in a race car with some of those curves.
00:12:02.260 --> 00:12:03.340 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes!
00:12:03.340 --> 00:12:13.469 Linda Marsanico: So it's past… you know, when we… when I feel, uncomfortable, I know, okay, this is the road to take. Pun intended.
00:12:13.470 --> 00:12:20.799 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Wonderful, wonderful. Yeah, I'd forgotten all about that highway. Yeah.
00:12:20.800 --> 00:12:22.369 Linda Marsanico: Were you born in the East?
00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:28.030 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I was born in New York City. I was born in Harlem, raised in Queens.
00:12:28.030 --> 00:12:28.870 Linda Marsanico: Wow.
00:12:28.870 --> 00:12:29.660 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:12:30.170 --> 00:12:39.810 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: So I'm very, very familiar with the Mid-Atlantic, as well as the New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut area.
00:12:40.530 --> 00:12:47.760 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: It can't really get it out of me, even though I haven't lived in New York for 30 years, I still consider myself a New Yorker.
00:12:49.420 --> 00:12:55.590 Linda Marsanico: I love New York. I'm sure you love Maryland. I finally, because I traveled a lot.
00:12:56.370 --> 00:13:09.939 Linda Marsanico: in earlier years, and now I finally put roots down in Brooklyn. And I feel very buttsy, and I like Brooklyn. And I remember when I first moved, I said to my husband, you want us to move to Brooklyn?
00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:12.270 Linda Marsanico: Brooklyn?
00:13:15.420 --> 00:13:20.499 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's how we felt in Queens about Brooklyn.
00:13:20.500 --> 00:13:22.269 Linda Marsanico: And now I just love it.
00:13:22.270 --> 00:13:22.940 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:13:22.940 --> 00:13:24.990 Linda Marsanico: See, it's real, I love it.
00:13:25.410 --> 00:13:39.299 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Indeed, indeed. Alrighty. Well, we're about to take our first break, and when we come back, we'll talk about the role of spirit in the healing process. So, everyone, come on back.
00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:40.339 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Welcome back to the Expansion Room, and today we're talking to Linda Marcanico, and discussing her memoir, The A Train to Sedona, and her path to self-compassion and healing through love, and
00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:44.810 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I would love to hear, Linda, in this segment.
00:15:44.940 --> 00:15:50.670 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: What the role of spirituality is in your life.
00:15:51.330 --> 00:16:00.600 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: as it has unfolded through these… now it's, I guess, been 12 years since that trip to Sedona. No, more than that, 15 years.
00:16:01.090 --> 00:16:04.079 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: trip to Sedona, and so…
00:16:04.310 --> 00:16:16.920 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I'd love to hear, like, how… what's the unfolding been like in reference to spirituality? And then later, how does that influence how you support other people, how you support…
00:16:16.920 --> 00:16:19.480 Linda Marsanico: People who are on their own healing journey.
00:16:20.860 --> 00:16:24.920 Linda Marsanico: To me, spirituality is the highest perspective.
00:16:25.140 --> 00:16:32.669 Linda Marsanico: When I think of spirituality, I think of jumping beyond the third dimension and understanding that I am…
00:16:32.870 --> 00:16:35.730 Linda Marsanico: An eternal spirit housed in a body.
00:16:37.140 --> 00:16:46.259 Linda Marsanico: And… For me, spirituality came I have to say, in my early 50s.
00:16:46.620 --> 00:16:48.930 Linda Marsanico: In my book, I mention
00:16:50.490 --> 00:16:53.080 Linda Marsanico: Being on the floor of my living room.
00:16:53.680 --> 00:17:01.410 Linda Marsanico: And closing my eyes, and seeing… I saw universe in my third eye. And I thought to myself.
00:17:02.100 --> 00:17:08.999 Linda Marsanico: Oh, my God. I am connected to universe, universe is in me, I'm in universe. We are all one.
00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:13.219 Linda Marsanico: It… Was a very important moment.
00:17:13.710 --> 00:17:17.169 Linda Marsanico: Before that, in the 90s.
00:17:18.990 --> 00:17:24.780 Linda Marsanico: I don't know for how long. Now, when I was a child, I went to parochial school, I was…
00:17:26.700 --> 00:17:37.579 Linda Marsanico: I had faith in God, but as I became an adult, it kind of faded, but my faith in God stayed there. In my heart, I believed, I would pray.
00:17:38.630 --> 00:17:41.779 Linda Marsanico: At some point in the 90s, I looked around.
00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:47.209 Linda Marsanico: And I said, If the world looks like this, there can't be a God.
00:17:47.910 --> 00:17:48.820 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Hmm…
00:17:48.820 --> 00:17:50.380 Linda Marsanico: And I lost my faith.
00:17:51.140 --> 00:18:07.740 Linda Marsanico: And so what happened? Who was charged with returning my faith to me? The Reverend Ed Tebidis, who wrote the book, Just a Breath Away, Tell Me How to Die, I've Never Done It Before. With his amazing clairvoyance and compassion.
00:18:08.520 --> 00:18:14.850 Linda Marsanico: He was responsible for having me Reminding me
00:18:15.180 --> 00:18:33.729 Linda Marsanico: That there is a God. And what I learned, and what resonated with me, is that when we turned away from God, we humans created the mishigas that we see in the world today. That took me a while to figure out, but during the faithful path. So, for me, spirituality is everything.
00:18:34.540 --> 00:18:37.930 Linda Marsanico: This eternal spirit, we're all connected.
00:18:38.410 --> 00:18:46.759 Linda Marsanico: We're all brothers and sisters in an all-inclusive club. No one is excluded from the club.
00:18:48.560 --> 00:18:57.049 Linda Marsanico: Now, Sedona… It is a beautiful place, and with this spiritual group that I was a member of.
00:18:57.330 --> 00:19:09.750 Linda Marsanico: I had never heard of Sedona before. People were going there in the 60s, I was married, I had one child, I later had three children altogether. But everybody knew about Sedona but me, it seems.
00:19:09.750 --> 00:19:10.550 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: well.
00:19:10.550 --> 00:19:18.769 Linda Marsanico: And, so the group said we're going to Sedona on a retreat. And I went twice a year for a number of years.
00:19:19.450 --> 00:19:24.359 Linda Marsanico: And I'm going to tell you, the energy knocked me out. It knocked all of us out.
00:19:24.360 --> 00:19:31.219 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Now, there are people who go there, there are people who live there who don't feel the energy at all. When I go there, it's like you're…
00:19:31.220 --> 00:19:34.580 Linda Marsanico: You're on, marijuana.
00:19:35.030 --> 00:19:39.789 Linda Marsanico: You're having a high. There was one time I went to Bell Rock.
00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:43.040 Linda Marsanico: Which is one of my favorite, vortexes.
00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:49.689 Linda Marsanico: And I walked down, I had my car in the parking lot. It must have been a summer or late spring.
00:19:50.420 --> 00:19:55.790 Linda Marsanico: And the window was open in the car, and my glasses
00:19:56.080 --> 00:20:03.999 Linda Marsanico: Fell… they went from my eyes, they were either here or here, I don't remember. They go out the window.
00:20:04.580 --> 00:20:06.730 Linda Marsanico: And they fall on the ground.
00:20:07.940 --> 00:20:12.970 Linda Marsanico: And that was… what I took that to mean was… it may sound,
00:20:13.840 --> 00:20:21.970 Linda Marsanico: so trite, but ground yourself, Linda. You're getting in the car. After this experience, ground yourself.
00:20:22.690 --> 00:20:24.540 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Whoa.
00:20:25.090 --> 00:20:33.240 Linda Marsanico: So… We learned… we… I dealt with… issues
00:20:33.780 --> 00:20:40.089 Linda Marsanico: We journaled, it was… think about it, twice a year for at least 5 years.
00:20:40.320 --> 00:20:49.749 Linda Marsanico: Six years. And then, in 2007, I bought the house. I thought, I want to be here, it was my happy place. It took me 2 years to find the house.
00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:50.880 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh my goodness.
00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:58.770 Linda Marsanico: two years to find it. And I thought, at that time, and I think I may have written about it, I was so impatient, but, you know, I thought I was gonna buy this house!
00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:08.230 Linda Marsanico: Why aren't I buying it now? And what I came to surmise was that the house wasn't ready for me. Somebody owned the house.
00:21:08.840 --> 00:21:17.159 Linda Marsanico: had bought it, and was ready to flip it over the two years into it, when I was finally seeing it for the first time.
00:21:18.300 --> 00:21:23.799 Linda Marsanico: I wrote the first The book that was rejected by a number of publishers.
00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:34.990 Linda Marsanico: in Sedona, on my laptop, outdoors. One artist passed me, wow, he said, I really… I'm feeling that energy. But I just was going and going.
00:21:36.080 --> 00:21:45.159 Linda Marsanico: And… I just… would go, I would write, I would see my friends, I would go to the vortexes.
00:21:47.360 --> 00:21:52.420 Linda Marsanico: have lunches, it was… Just a joyful thing to do.
00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:55.090 Linda Marsanico: And my spirituality grew.
00:21:55.230 --> 00:22:03.939 Linda Marsanico: Because as we let go of the distractions, issues of anger, I'm feeling bereft, I'm feeling this.
00:22:04.260 --> 00:22:07.340 Linda Marsanico: We're more apt, we're more able to focus
00:22:07.610 --> 00:22:09.780 Linda Marsanico: And hear the voice of God.
00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:14.090 Linda Marsanico: We're more able to… Discover.
00:22:14.230 --> 00:22:16.619 Linda Marsanico: Who we are, because the journey is within.
00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:21.420 Linda Marsanico: We ask questions of ourselves, and we move on an inward journey.
00:22:21.540 --> 00:22:26.340 Linda Marsanico: So, as… as I'm dealing with my issues, I'm becoming…
00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:40.069 Linda Marsanico: less distracted. And in my psychology practice, I started to see some differences. I would get a ping, so someone sitting across from me, and it could happen on Zoom, too, but we didn't have Zoom then.
00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:51.919 Linda Marsanico: If they didn't be… if they were not aware of an issue, I would feel it. It would come to me on the part of the body that would register that kind of issue.
00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:52.260 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Hmm.
00:22:52.260 --> 00:22:55.930 Linda Marsanico: The left shoulder could be female past.
00:22:56.070 --> 00:23:03.490 Linda Marsanico: what I should be doing, and how we should ourselves, oh. And so I get a ping, or I ping on my side.
00:23:03.600 --> 00:23:13.930 Linda Marsanico: which all the energy systems that I studied helped me understand. So I would sit there, I'd feel a ping, and I had to first determine, is this me, or is it my client?
00:23:14.040 --> 00:23:20.270 Linda Marsanico: And when I felt that it wasn't me, I would ask, is… are you feeling, on the left side.
00:23:20.530 --> 00:23:24.850 Linda Marsanico: would be… Helplessness? Are you feeling helpless?
00:23:24.850 --> 00:23:25.570 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Mmm.
00:23:25.570 --> 00:23:28.359 Linda Marsanico: And I would always get a yes.
00:23:28.650 --> 00:23:35.319 Linda Marsanico: And I would be able to describe, with my client, an unconscious Experience of theirs.
00:23:35.610 --> 00:23:37.520 Linda Marsanico: And then at one time.
00:23:37.850 --> 00:23:50.369 Linda Marsanico: Laura, my friend Laura Isaac, channels Kwan Yin, and Kwan Yin, again, through her, said to me, Linda, bring parents into the sessions. I thought, how am I gonna do that? So…
00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:58.479 Linda Marsanico: I had a client come in, and it was going to be her last session, she was moving to California, and we said that we would deal with her father.
00:23:58.860 --> 00:24:03.400 Linda Marsanico: She gets to the session, she's afraid. I can't do it.
00:24:04.070 --> 00:24:05.610 Linda Marsanico: All of a sudden.
00:24:05.810 --> 00:24:16.580 Linda Marsanico: The Father spoke through me. And I don't remember what he said. It's one of those things, it's not my composition. It's not my… I'm not the author of it. And she looked at me.
00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:30.520 Linda Marsanico: And she said… and she knew that it was a communication, and that happened with another client as well. So, as I said, we're all wired in the same way, and as I said, as we let the distractions go.
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.280 Linda Marsanico: We have more ability.
00:24:33.560 --> 00:24:42.219 Linda Marsanico: to be part of our multidimensional self. And the first time I heard about multidimensional anything was from Gary Zukoff in Seat of the Soul.
00:24:42.250 --> 00:24:44.710 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:24:45.300 --> 00:24:46.370 Linda Marsanico: Yeah. Yes.
00:24:46.560 --> 00:24:55.680 Linda Marsanico: And that book sat on, according to Oprah, sat on her bedside table for years. I'm not sure if it's still there. It's quite a book, and he talks about.
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:56.140 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: It is…
00:24:56.900 --> 00:24:58.430 Linda Marsanico: It's quite a book. Heavy.
00:24:59.060 --> 00:24:59.780 Linda Marsanico: So…
00:24:59.780 --> 00:25:03.349 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I've had to read it a couple of times. First time I read it, I didn't get it.
00:25:03.350 --> 00:25:07.089 Linda Marsanico: I may be due to read it again.
00:25:07.090 --> 00:25:22.190 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah, right? But yeah, it's funny, when you come back to powerful books like that, the opening within you that occurs, because you have more clarity, more understanding, you're farther down on your path.
00:25:22.840 --> 00:25:23.500 Linda Marsanico: Yeah.
00:25:23.570 --> 00:25:24.230 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:25:24.830 --> 00:25:27.920 Linda Marsanico: So I… I may… may read that.
00:25:28.530 --> 00:25:30.080 Linda Marsanico: It's on my bookshelf.
00:25:31.860 --> 00:25:38.950 Linda Marsanico: So, spirituality is… All of this, and psychology is like the structure.
00:25:39.330 --> 00:25:40.240 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Hmm…
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.889 Linda Marsanico: Of the ego, the self.
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:51.980 Linda Marsanico: You know, if we use Freud, the ego, the, I can't even think of it… the ego, the… and the superego, and the it.
00:25:51.980 --> 00:25:53.699 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: In the id.
00:25:53.700 --> 00:25:55.460 Linda Marsanico: But oh, Ed. And…
00:25:55.930 --> 00:26:01.790 Linda Marsanico: we know as pract… well, I believe as a practitioner that the unconscious is very powerful.
00:26:01.950 --> 00:26:08.350 Linda Marsanico: And we need to bring it up into… Awareness, so that it doesn't… hijack us.
00:26:08.350 --> 00:26:09.070 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:26:09.070 --> 00:26:12.469 Linda Marsanico: You know, people talk about they make resolutions
00:26:12.850 --> 00:26:15.989 Linda Marsanico: New Year's, and then they fail.
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.680 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: There's not an alignment with conscious and unconscious self.
00:26:19.800 --> 00:26:28.049 Linda Marsanico: So the more that… when we give permission, the angels will come in and help us. Our guides will come in. Because we have free will.
00:26:28.740 --> 00:26:32.829 Linda Marsanico: leave us alone. I was joking with somebody, sort of saying, they were.
00:26:33.230 --> 00:26:36.730 Linda Marsanico: They're waiting for us to say, please help me, thank you for helping us.
00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:37.450 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes!
00:26:37.450 --> 00:26:40.020 Linda Marsanico: Yeah, she wants us to help her.
00:26:40.100 --> 00:26:42.629 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: They're just, like, hanging out, watching.
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:48.530 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: You know, waiting for acknowledgement, and… Ask for help.
00:26:48.730 --> 00:26:49.910 Linda Marsanico: Yeah, so help…
00:26:49.910 --> 00:26:51.059 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I'm glad to hear!
00:26:51.070 --> 00:26:54.240 Linda Marsanico: Yeah. That's why they're here! Yeah.
00:26:54.360 --> 00:26:55.200 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Indeed.
00:26:55.450 --> 00:26:57.790 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Indeed.
00:26:58.290 --> 00:26:59.410 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Wonderful.
00:26:59.410 --> 00:27:02.849 Linda Marsanico: Yeah, so spirituality is everything for me. When I wake up, I…
00:27:03.020 --> 00:27:08.810 Linda Marsanico: I have a… I'm in a co-op on the 9th floor, and I have nothing on my windows.
00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:16.350 Linda Marsanico: So I wake up and I can see As the sun is becoming… Prominent in the sky.
00:27:16.350 --> 00:27:17.540 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And I…
00:27:18.210 --> 00:27:24.509 Linda Marsanico: often will say, thank you so much for this beautiful… every… every day is different, it's so infinitely creative.
00:27:24.660 --> 00:27:27.090 Linda Marsanico: Thank you for this beautiful beginning.
00:27:29.210 --> 00:27:30.370 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Amen.
00:27:31.690 --> 00:27:33.570 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's a gorgeous way to wake up.
00:27:34.910 --> 00:27:39.670 Linda Marsanico: I recently, I had a lot of photographs along the windowsill.
00:27:40.520 --> 00:27:47.159 Linda Marsanico: And I took them away and put them… I have other places for them, so that I could see the full window.
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:48.929 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Okay.
00:27:48.930 --> 00:27:55.740 Linda Marsanico: I have the full window. I have a little Buddha along a vein of the window, so it doesn't obstruct the glass.
00:27:57.610 --> 00:28:03.679 Linda Marsanico: Then I have another little trinket, then I have another little Buddha, a little one, tiny, tiny one.
00:28:03.930 --> 00:28:05.970 Linda Marsanico: In my bathroom window.
00:28:06.650 --> 00:28:10.439 Linda Marsanico: And then I have another Buddha, I just love Buddha.
00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:13.200 Linda Marsanico: Have them on my bathtub.
00:28:14.840 --> 00:28:22.709 Linda Marsanico: And a lot of other… symbols and… and things. And this huge…
00:28:23.510 --> 00:28:28.590 Linda Marsanico: Marble, black marble Buddha. It must weigh 20 pounds.
00:28:28.590 --> 00:28:29.190 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh, wow.
00:28:29.190 --> 00:28:30.470 Linda Marsanico: It's very heavy.
00:28:30.690 --> 00:28:35.170 Linda Marsanico: And I have… it's… Beautiful black marble, which sits
00:28:35.280 --> 00:28:38.080 Linda Marsanico: On a side window, on the windowsill.
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:39.960 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah, lovely.
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:41.989 Linda Marsanico: I see that as I get up.
00:28:43.360 --> 00:28:49.470 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Beautiful. I love when people allow their windows To be… what?
00:28:49.760 --> 00:29:00.929 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: like, the picture frame, instead of covering… like, I don't have… only… the only room I have curtains in is in the bedroom, so I have some privacy, but in general.
00:29:01.120 --> 00:29:05.899 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: once I roll up the shades in the morning, it's just clear open windows, so that
00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:11.729 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I can, you know, see all of nature and not be obstructed in any way.
00:29:12.360 --> 00:29:13.700 Linda Marsanico: That's breathtaking.
00:29:13.700 --> 00:29:23.780 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah, it's like it's the best… to me, it's the best way, but people love their curtains and all the things. But I bought the house because of the windows.
00:29:24.230 --> 00:29:26.200 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Windows are so important to me.
00:29:26.370 --> 00:29:27.020 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:29:27.180 --> 00:29:31.300 Linda Marsanico: When I was looking for an apartment, the windows had to be good windows.
00:29:31.300 --> 00:29:31.750 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:29:31.750 --> 00:29:34.490 Linda Marsanico: And, I'm very pleased.
00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:46.439 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Good for you, good for you. We will take our next break, and when we return, we'll talk about responsibility, like, radical responsibility in self-love.
00:29:46.560 --> 00:29:47.130 Linda Marsanico: Okay.
00:29:47.130 --> 00:29:48.290 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Come on back, y'all.
00:31:21.800 --> 00:31:29.090 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Welcome back to the Expansion Room, where today my guest is Linda Marcanico, and we're talking about her memoir.
00:31:29.330 --> 00:31:42.659 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: the A train to Sedona. And one of the things, Linda, I'm keenly aware of is the… the gift of… that we've been granted of free will.
00:31:42.950 --> 00:31:54.880 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Right? Comes with responsibilities, right? We have a responsibility for our own growth, And our own expansion.
00:31:55.200 --> 00:32:13.360 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And so I'd love to hear, your take on responsibility. Like, what place does responsibility have in spiritual growth, and how does… how has it changed or transformed your relationship with yourself and with other people?
00:32:17.360 --> 00:32:19.489 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh, you're still on mute.
00:32:25.110 --> 00:32:26.329 Linda Marsanico: Can you hear me now?
00:32:26.950 --> 00:32:27.520 Linda Marsanico: Good.
00:32:28.130 --> 00:32:32.680 Linda Marsanico: In the A Train to Sedona memoir, I list 12 tips
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.350 Linda Marsanico: Toward the back of the book. I had written the book, and I thought.
00:32:36.500 --> 00:32:39.960 Linda Marsanico: How can I give it a thumbnail sketch to everyone?
00:32:40.260 --> 00:32:42.729 Linda Marsanico: And I wrote the 12 tips.
00:32:43.270 --> 00:32:48.750 Linda Marsanico: The first tip is, and this has to do with responsibility, having an intention.
00:32:49.260 --> 00:32:49.780 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Mmm.
00:32:49.780 --> 00:32:51.989 Linda Marsanico: Intention to be on the spiritual path.
00:32:52.990 --> 00:32:59.730 Linda Marsanico: Without intention, life can become, or can feel like, a hard…
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:08.340 Linda Marsanico: resp… a hard, task. Many things happen, but with intention to be on the spiritual path.
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:14.440 Linda Marsanico: I can look at the third dimension and jump to a multidimensional experience.
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.149 Linda Marsanico: Now, intention is the driving force of creation.
00:33:19.360 --> 00:33:21.349 Linda Marsanico: And it's Buddha who says.
00:33:21.990 --> 00:33:29.769 Linda Marsanico: Don't attempt, just do. Now, for years, I didn't understand what Buddha meant, and finally, I got it.
00:33:30.910 --> 00:33:33.930 Linda Marsanico: When I attempt, the energy meanders.
00:33:34.370 --> 00:33:37.599 Linda Marsanico: But when I do, It's like a laser.
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.460 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes, indeed.
00:33:39.460 --> 00:33:40.200 Linda Marsanico: Right?
00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:56.010 Linda Marsanico: So that brings me to responsibility. The second tip is to have a sense of responsibility, because we forget, you know, in the amniotic fluid, it's said that there is something that takes… it gives us amnesia from all of our other lifetimes, right?
00:33:56.630 --> 00:34:01.440 Linda Marsanico: We come in, we come into the world, And…
00:34:02.820 --> 00:34:08.640 Linda Marsanico: We forget, and we have to learn, that we're here basically to heal ourselves.
00:34:09.210 --> 00:34:15.710 Linda Marsanico: put into a family. It's not a… nope, it's not a perfect family, and that reminds me of a
00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:22.049 Linda Marsanico: a cartoon I had, It was the Association of Functional Families.
00:34:22.710 --> 00:34:24.670 Linda Marsanico: Two people were in the audience.
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:32.559 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That sounds about right.
00:34:33.969 --> 00:34:36.009 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Wow.
00:34:36.010 --> 00:34:39.880 Linda Marsanico: So, we come out and we forget that we need to be.
00:34:39.889 --> 00:34:40.479 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: B.
00:34:42.170 --> 00:34:43.510 Linda Marsanico: We forget what we promised.
00:34:43.510 --> 00:34:44.130 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Promised.
00:34:44.340 --> 00:34:45.360 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:46.750 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:34:46.750 --> 00:34:48.860 Linda Marsanico: Can you see me? Because I've lost you.
00:34:49.179 --> 00:34:51.129 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh yeah, I can see you just fine.
00:34:51.130 --> 00:34:56.309 Linda Marsanico: Okay, I'm not sure what happened here, but anyway, let me see if I can get back.
00:34:56.830 --> 00:34:57.949 Linda Marsanico: Oh, there we are.
00:35:00.070 --> 00:35:09.060 Linda Marsanico: So our task is to heal ourselves. And so taking a sense of responsibility, because as I was saying before we… all of a sudden the screen went blank, I want you to know.
00:35:10.850 --> 00:35:29.439 Linda Marsanico: We're powerful. We're powerful goddesses and gods. And we forget that, and yet, I'm here to tell all of my clients, if they're open to hearing it, if they believe in any kind of multidimensionality, I remind them that they're gods and goddesses.
00:35:29.730 --> 00:35:32.070 Linda Marsanico: Powerful beyond our imagination.
00:35:32.250 --> 00:35:32.870 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Amen.
00:35:32.870 --> 00:35:36.860 Linda Marsanico: And we need to, we need to… Fill that in.
00:35:37.500 --> 00:35:42.260 Linda Marsanico: And that takes… The challenge, the adventure of the spiritual path.
00:35:42.550 --> 00:35:59.069 Linda Marsanico: So by responsibility, it means I don't blame anything for what has happened to me, that I take responsibility for myself, because there are a lot of things that happen to us. People are ridden with trauma, they've been violated, they've been, you know, a lot happens.
00:35:59.530 --> 00:36:00.180 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:36:00.180 --> 00:36:04.140 Linda Marsanico: But we take responsibility, and we choose love over fear.
00:36:05.090 --> 00:36:07.139 Linda Marsanico: So, by choosing love.
00:36:09.380 --> 00:36:16.859 Linda Marsanico: There are many, many things that happen to us every day. And I've written that compassion is an everyday experience.
00:36:17.510 --> 00:36:23.359 Linda Marsanico: I walk down the street, I can… when someone smiles at me, it's a burst of sunshine.
00:36:23.730 --> 00:36:29.269 Linda Marsanico: And especially if I'm having a rough morning, and I go out and someone smiles at me, it's…
00:36:29.420 --> 00:36:32.080 Linda Marsanico: Wonderful thing to do to brighten somebody's day.
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.069 Linda Marsanico: To treat somebody with kindness rather than irritation.
00:36:36.970 --> 00:36:38.690 Linda Marsanico: Especially if we're driving.
00:36:39.270 --> 00:36:40.190 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:36:40.190 --> 00:36:43.280 Linda Marsanico: So, I'm in the fast lane, somebody's going…
00:36:43.540 --> 00:36:50.729 Linda Marsanico: slow in the fast lane. I could curse and yell, and the negativity is… every cell in my body is gonna radiate.
00:36:51.220 --> 00:37:07.849 Linda Marsanico: That's right. I'm all feeling my negativity. Or, I can say, alright, let me flick my lights, maybe she'll move over. If she doesn't, maybe I'll just take a little longer time to get there, and maybe eventually I'll change lanes.
00:37:08.640 --> 00:37:19.289 Linda Marsanico: I'll take an alternative approach. Perhaps my mother and father are deceased now, but my mother could say something that I could take offense with.
00:37:19.540 --> 00:37:22.300 Linda Marsanico: But instead of taking offense, I could step back.
00:37:23.390 --> 00:37:28.199 Linda Marsanico: And deflect in some way. Or someone could approach me and say, Linda, your hair looks terrible.
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:33.240 Linda Marsanico: And I might say, you know, I've gotten so many compliments, though.
00:37:33.560 --> 00:37:36.449 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: There you go.
00:37:36.450 --> 00:37:41.300 Linda Marsanico: Or be bold and say nothing, or choose… Compassion.
00:37:42.380 --> 00:37:46.519 Linda Marsanico: Now, choosing compassion doesn't mean… Being a pushover.
00:37:46.990 --> 00:37:56.990 Linda Marsanico: Because I remember being on a show, and I said, you know, we need to be assertive in compassion. And the person said, really? How does that fit in?
00:37:57.800 --> 00:37:59.310 Linda Marsanico: Well, assertion…
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:07.169 Linda Marsanico: allows me to be real, it allows me to say who I am, it allows me to announce what I need.
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:08.440 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.629 Linda Marsanico: Now, I may not always get what I need, but I've said it.
00:38:12.190 --> 00:38:15.179 Linda Marsanico: So say I want to go out to dinner and nobody's available.
00:38:15.340 --> 00:38:17.200 Linda Marsanico: I can take myself out to dinner.
00:38:17.500 --> 00:38:19.000 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: If this is true.
00:38:19.600 --> 00:38:25.520 Linda Marsanico: Also, If it's a deeper thing, a deeper issue.
00:38:26.030 --> 00:38:31.139 Linda Marsanico: I work with my clients, and I work with myself to heal my children within.
00:38:31.450 --> 00:38:36.569 Linda Marsanico: There are experiences which can have us get stuck at a certain age.
00:38:36.950 --> 00:38:48.340 Linda Marsanico: I remember one of my clients wanted to go color in the park. She'd bring a coloring book. She was in her 30s. She brought a coloring book, and she went in the park, or she rode her bike in a playful way.
00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:52.619 Linda Marsanico: If we have… when we have a dialogue with our
00:38:52.780 --> 00:38:55.500 Linda Marsanico: child within. We know what we need.
00:38:55.640 --> 00:38:58.480 Linda Marsanico: And we give it to them. And I often say.
00:38:58.660 --> 00:39:00.599 Linda Marsanico: To a client or to myself.
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:06.699 Linda Marsanico: We are the CEO and the president of our corporation. We're the architect of our choices.
00:39:07.040 --> 00:39:09.250 Linda Marsanico: And that I'm in charge now.
00:39:09.510 --> 00:39:14.449 Linda Marsanico: younger self. When we were kids, I had no power, but now I'm it.
00:39:14.650 --> 00:39:25.949 Linda Marsanico: watch the decisions that I make. And if I make a mistake, so-called mistake, if I say something that… I speak the truth to my inner children.
00:39:26.250 --> 00:39:33.169 Linda Marsanico: So, taking responsibility is… A very powerful attitude.
00:39:35.090 --> 00:39:36.940 Linda Marsanico: It changes our energy.
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:44.759 Linda Marsanico: When we take that with that intention, Attitude of responsibility.
00:39:45.240 --> 00:39:53.700 Linda Marsanico: That puts us in the adventure of the path. What adventures will I encounter today? It was Wayne Dyer who said in one of his books.
00:39:54.180 --> 00:39:56.199 Linda Marsanico: God, I give you my day.
00:39:58.160 --> 00:40:05.200 Linda Marsanico: And he would just be moved by what he felt he was being directed to do.
00:40:05.580 --> 00:40:06.210 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: There you go.
00:40:06.210 --> 00:40:07.240 Linda Marsanico: It's a lot of faith.
00:40:07.690 --> 00:40:10.840 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: It does indeed.
00:40:11.150 --> 00:40:17.230 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I think that you made such a powerful statement about taking responsibility.
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:28.769 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: For your own, you know, spirituality, for your own self, because we're living in a time where blame is everywhere.
00:40:29.230 --> 00:40:35.850 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: You know? But that is such a powerful thing to do, to be able to pause.
00:40:36.120 --> 00:40:36.490 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:40:36.490 --> 00:40:38.530 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Have enough self-awareness.
00:40:38.750 --> 00:40:39.710 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Right?
00:40:39.820 --> 00:40:43.459 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And take responsibility for the parts that are yours.
00:40:43.850 --> 00:40:44.840 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:45.410 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:40:45.410 --> 00:40:47.490 Linda Marsanico: And when we do that, we feel big.
00:40:49.120 --> 00:40:53.120 Linda Marsanico: And it's not just… there are issues that we have to deal with.
00:40:54.110 --> 00:40:55.630 Linda Marsanico: Where we feel small.
00:40:55.930 --> 00:40:56.610 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:58.360 Linda Marsanico: But we don't have to remain there.
00:40:58.690 --> 00:40:59.390 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's right.
00:40:59.390 --> 00:41:06.519 Linda Marsanico: which we were talking about reaching out to the angels. We can reach out to our friends, we can reach out to professionals, there's help around.
00:41:07.040 --> 00:41:07.850 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Always.
00:41:07.850 --> 00:41:09.550 Linda Marsanico: Yes, but we need to reach out.
00:41:10.130 --> 00:41:17.240 Linda Marsanico: When it's necessary. And in my book, I write, I have a number of friends, they're spiritual friends, 3 of them.
00:41:18.300 --> 00:41:22.900 Linda Marsanico: And… I'll do… I'll text, I want to run something by you.
00:41:23.770 --> 00:41:24.240 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh, nice.
00:41:24.240 --> 00:41:36.050 Linda Marsanico: moment, I'm going to run something by you, and they give me their astute, they put their personalities aside as much as they can, as much as we can, and they tell me what they think the spiritual meaning is.
00:41:37.220 --> 00:41:38.020 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: ugly.
00:41:38.020 --> 00:41:39.880 Linda Marsanico: And it's… you know.
00:41:40.090 --> 00:41:49.430 Linda Marsanico: And we know, we get on… we get on the phone if we can't immediately, almost immediately, unless we're involved in something else. I want to run something by you? Boom, I'm there.
00:41:51.020 --> 00:41:54.509 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's a wonderful friend group to have.
00:41:55.450 --> 00:41:59.130 Linda Marsanico: And it's powerful, because… I have trust.
00:41:59.240 --> 00:42:04.070 Linda Marsanico: And then… and I know that each of them Has a different…
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.240 Linda Marsanico: expertise, a different perspective, and I know who to go to for what.
00:42:09.590 --> 00:42:10.400 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Okay.
00:42:11.790 --> 00:42:12.730 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Lovely.
00:42:12.730 --> 00:42:21.999 Linda Marsanico: That's a good thing to have. And are they… are they all… are some of them part of this group that you used to travel to Sedona with?
00:42:22.780 --> 00:42:37.669 Linda Marsanico: Actually, one I met in Sedona, she's my realtor. I haven't been in touch with her in a while, but the two… no, but she, yes, and then the two are in Brooklyn and Queens.
00:42:38.170 --> 00:42:39.559 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: There we go.
00:42:39.560 --> 00:42:42.860 Linda Marsanico: Of course, with texting, they could be anywhere, right?
00:42:42.860 --> 00:42:50.189 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That is true, which is a lovely thing. The way technology has evolved, we can reach out.
00:42:50.600 --> 00:42:53.200 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: From anywhere to anywhere.
00:42:54.130 --> 00:43:13.459 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: At any time. It's… it's… that's a great thing. I was… I was chatting with someone recently who was significantly younger, and I was telling them about the days where you would give someone your phone number, and you'd have to wait for them to call you at home.
00:43:14.150 --> 00:43:22.499 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And you couldn't leave, like, if you wanted a date or something, you couldn't leave because you wanted to be there when the phone rang.
00:43:23.110 --> 00:43:28.620 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: But the world has opened up in such a lovely way with technology in that regard.
00:43:28.620 --> 00:43:34.239 Linda Marsanico: I love to text. Not that I don't… I mean, I certainly love conversations, but to get something quickly done.
00:43:34.240 --> 00:43:34.900 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes.
00:43:34.900 --> 00:43:36.700 Linda Marsanico: It's such a…
00:43:36.710 --> 00:43:38.710 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: a help. It's really…
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:39.970 Linda Marsanico: Dynamite.
00:43:40.210 --> 00:43:53.599 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: It really is, it really is. Alright, well, we're going to take our next break, our final break, actually, for this episode, and when we come back, we will talk about the moments of grace.
00:43:54.130 --> 00:44:03.659 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Right? Those little moments of grace, and the train to love, and we'll wrap things up for the audience. So come on back, everybody.
00:45:36.570 --> 00:45:43.840 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Welcome back to the expansion Room. And today, my guest, Linda Mosanical, has been sharing
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:58.930 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: her experience of expansion into self-compassion and love through her memoir, A Train to Sedona. And I would love to hear, Linda, about your most pivotal
00:45:59.040 --> 00:46:01.390 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: spiritual moment.
00:46:01.740 --> 00:46:10.719 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: If you can share with us, like, what was the spiritual moment for you on your… the most spiritual moment for you on your journey?
00:46:12.490 --> 00:46:13.880 Linda Marsanico: Am I unmuted?
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:15.979 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: You are unmuted.
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:28.089 Linda Marsanico: You know, sitting on the floor of my living room, closing my eyes with a yoga book that my sister gave me was one. I think I've had a series of pivotal moments.
00:46:28.090 --> 00:46:29.130 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Mmm.
00:46:29.470 --> 00:46:40.209 Linda Marsanico: When Ed Tebidis came to me, and I didn't believe in God, and he restored my faith, sitting on the floor of my living room… I'm doing yoga for the first time, I think.
00:46:40.510 --> 00:46:41.430 Linda Marsanico: And you…
00:46:41.430 --> 00:46:42.090 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh.
00:46:42.090 --> 00:46:48.459 Linda Marsanico: I mean, she gave me this, she said, get this book, it's very good. And then I close my eyes, and I think, oh my goodness!
00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:57.460 Linda Marsanico: I am part of universe, and I went on this… I was being readied
00:46:57.870 --> 00:46:59.979 Linda Marsanico: For what was coming for me.
00:46:59.980 --> 00:47:02.889 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah. Jonah, writing the book.
00:47:03.260 --> 00:47:08.450 Linda Marsanico: But there was something else that happened More recently.
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.520 Linda Marsanico: And I was in a… condo.
00:47:11.770 --> 00:47:27.380 Linda Marsanico: in Brooklyn, there were 3 of us, three families in this condo. And the people on the third floor became pregnant, had a baby, and they put their carriage right in front of my door, so that when I opened my door.
00:47:27.630 --> 00:47:31.350 Linda Marsanico: 3 feet from my opening was this carriage.
00:47:31.770 --> 00:47:40.160 Linda Marsanico: And it was, you know, how my windows or apertures, like, my retina is taking pictures. This was like, I can't bear it.
00:47:40.460 --> 00:47:48.269 Linda Marsanico: So I spoke to the mother, I spoke to the father, I asked them to move the carriage.
00:47:48.640 --> 00:47:50.250 Linda Marsanico: They… would not.
00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:51.480 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Hmm.
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:56.439 Linda Marsanico: I… repeatedly, I tried to get them in conversation.
00:47:56.630 --> 00:47:57.390 Linda Marsanico: No.
00:47:57.800 --> 00:47:59.560 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I'm in my anger.
00:48:00.770 --> 00:48:05.970 Linda Marsanico: I… didn't offer to move the carriage myself. I could have said, you know.
00:48:06.070 --> 00:48:17.040 Linda Marsanico: They had this vestibule, and rather than put the carriage in my… right in front of my door, they could have put it in this vestibule, up some steps into this vestibule.
00:48:17.040 --> 00:48:19.570 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I could have offered to do that. I did not.
00:48:19.750 --> 00:48:24.469 Linda Marsanico: I was angry. And we stayed angry for months.
00:48:25.260 --> 00:48:25.700 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Mmm.
00:48:25.700 --> 00:48:35.719 Linda Marsanico: And the… talk about the energy, the energy was palpable. They were unhappy, I was unhappy, and I think that angels whispered in my ear.
00:48:38.100 --> 00:48:50.590 Linda Marsanico: I thought, let me focus on love and compassion, and I began to say, I am a bodhisattva. And that is, for anyone who doesn't know, a bodhisattva is someone on the path to enlightenment.
00:48:50.950 --> 00:49:05.109 Linda Marsanico: So I open my door, see the carriage. Instead of being angry, I say, I am a bodhisattva. I am a bodhisattva. I go out to my office, come back, see the carriage. I am a bodhisattva, I am a bodhisattva, I am a bodhisattva.
00:49:06.260 --> 00:49:07.900 Linda Marsanico: And they moved the carriage.
00:49:09.330 --> 00:49:18.449 Linda Marsanico: And that, to me, was… a miracle in… just in… like that. The carriage was no longer there.
00:49:20.460 --> 00:49:26.420 Linda Marsanico: And… I thought to myself… They felt the energy.
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.259 Linda Marsanico: The energy of love moved them.
00:49:30.720 --> 00:49:33.019 Linda Marsanico: And they moved this baby buggy.
00:49:34.080 --> 00:49:35.950 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And it was…
00:49:37.500 --> 00:49:40.009 Linda Marsanico: It showed me the power of love.
00:49:41.230 --> 00:49:44.819 Linda Marsanico: We never spoke about it until a number of years later.
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:56.449 Linda Marsanico: She had moved. They had divorced. She… they moved, and I saw her in Prospect Park. And I said, you know, I told the story in my… I want to tell the story in my book.
00:49:56.580 --> 00:50:00.260 Linda Marsanico: About the carriage, and do I have your permission to do it?
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.590 Linda Marsanico: She said, yes, just change my name.
00:50:04.950 --> 00:50:10.189 Linda Marsanico: So that was a very pivotal moment for me. I was very grateful, because
00:50:10.390 --> 00:50:16.890 Linda Marsanico: didn't like how angry I had become, and I was very grateful for the whispering in my ear.
00:50:19.370 --> 00:50:22.389 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And you listened to the whisper in your ear.
00:50:22.390 --> 00:50:23.140 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:25.100 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
00:50:26.330 --> 00:50:34.650 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That story reminds me of a song I remember hearing growing up, that one of the lines in it was, love can move mountains.
00:50:34.650 --> 00:50:39.019 Linda Marsanico: It's amazing, it's a catalyst, really. It opens doors.
00:50:39.950 --> 00:50:44.050 Linda Marsanico: And it's said to be the most powerful vibration that we have.
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.600 Linda Marsanico: When people talk about… have you heard of the Violet Light of St. Germain?
00:50:50.970 --> 00:50:52.020 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh, yes.
00:50:52.020 --> 00:50:53.659 Linda Marsanico: It's a violet light.
00:50:53.660 --> 00:50:55.970 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yep, through my Reiki course, yeah.
00:50:56.420 --> 00:51:01.620 Linda Marsanico: So, the colors come from Mother God's pink.
00:51:01.870 --> 00:51:05.500 Linda Marsanico: and Father God's blue to make the purple.
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:09.030 Linda Marsanico: So it's a very powerful energy.
00:51:10.950 --> 00:51:12.480 Linda Marsanico: That I love very much.
00:51:12.950 --> 00:51:17.029 Linda Marsanico: If I'm going on the subway, I'm on the subway all the time.
00:51:17.030 --> 00:51:17.660 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Okay.
00:51:17.660 --> 00:51:20.109 Linda Marsanico: An intend violet light for protection.
00:51:20.420 --> 00:51:23.120 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yes. Beautiful. Very nice.
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:24.139 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: I love it.
00:51:24.140 --> 00:51:43.799 Linda Marsanico: And I wanted to read something. So when I wrote the book, nobody was interested. I couldn't find anyone who was interested in the book, and I met a book whisperer. His name is Jared Rosen. And he said, you know, we're going to revise this, and I had to revise the book after I had
00:51:43.870 --> 00:51:48.349 Linda Marsanico: done a lot of rewriting, and I have to tell you, I thought I was gonna throw up.
00:51:49.490 --> 00:51:57.760 Linda Marsanico: sat by myself, and I… he said, Linda, you can do this. And he said, I want you to write a reflection after every chapter. And I'd like to read…
00:51:58.680 --> 00:52:00.259 Linda Marsanico: This reflection to you.
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:01.170 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Okay.
00:52:03.050 --> 00:52:06.870 Linda Marsanico: So, living in love is quite an achievement.
00:52:07.470 --> 00:52:12.300 Linda Marsanico: As well as a prize. I feel light when I'm in love with myself.
00:52:12.700 --> 00:52:17.199 Linda Marsanico: With my family and friends, with my writing, with my work, with clients.
00:52:17.450 --> 00:52:20.069 Linda Marsanico: The day is brighter, even if it's raining.
00:52:20.190 --> 00:52:26.759 Linda Marsanico: When I'm living in love. The glass is half full. People smile at me. I hear the birds.
00:52:27.090 --> 00:52:29.360 Linda Marsanico: This reminds me of a blog I wrote.
00:52:30.370 --> 00:52:35.160 Linda Marsanico: I came out of the gym after a workout one summer day several years ago.
00:52:35.430 --> 00:52:43.830 Linda Marsanico: Remember that the gym is air-conditioned, and the heat of the summer air smacked against my body like a turbulent beach wave.
00:52:44.070 --> 00:52:46.840 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: It was 80 degrees at 8 AM.
00:52:47.430 --> 00:52:52.320 Linda Marsanico: Instead of bracing myself against the heat, I moved through it.
00:52:52.680 --> 00:52:58.080 Linda Marsanico: I felt as though my molecules expanded to allow my passage.
00:52:58.600 --> 00:53:03.729 Linda Marsanico: I crossed the street and came upon a bird perched in a tree, singing.
00:53:04.170 --> 00:53:11.930 Linda Marsanico: This was a beautiful song that I would have missed had I been distracted by my irritation at the heat wave.
00:53:13.040 --> 00:53:18.330 Linda Marsanico: I was filled with joy hearing the music, and it carried me further into the morning.
00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:32.690 Linda Marsanico: I am uplifted by love and joy, and you can be moved, too. The energy of love surrounded me, and it's a wonderful way to begin the adventure of a new day, a new opportunity to flow with this awesome energy.
00:53:35.780 --> 00:53:36.770 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Thank you.
00:53:37.490 --> 00:53:42.029 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That was beautiful, and a beautiful reminder.
00:53:42.590 --> 00:53:44.530 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Oh, I love it.
00:53:45.020 --> 00:53:45.740 Linda Marsanico: Thank you.
00:53:45.740 --> 00:53:53.530 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: How can our listeners, using your analogy of the A train, Right?
00:53:53.940 --> 00:54:07.239 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Be able to implement some practical mindset shifts or daily practices in their lives, so that they can move from being in this fear-based life
00:54:07.580 --> 00:54:14.950 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: To more of a self… a life of self-compassion and love, the way you just described in that reflection.
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:23.710 Linda Marsanico: the first… Thought is to have the intention to be on the spiritual path.
00:54:24.700 --> 00:54:29.439 Linda Marsanico: and to have a sense of responsibility. Those are huge in moving us
00:54:30.130 --> 00:54:35.549 Linda Marsanico: To begin to acknowledge that we can be powerful, and to move into that power.
00:54:37.460 --> 00:54:41.910 Linda Marsanico: Then… I think it's important
00:54:42.050 --> 00:54:46.559 Linda Marsanico: I have a four-stage model that I work with, with my clients, and with myself.
00:54:46.680 --> 00:54:49.060 Linda Marsanico: And that is to know what my thoughts are.
00:54:49.990 --> 00:54:59.589 Linda Marsanico: So thoughts come around, and they come from childhood. They can be almost pre-conscious if we're not aware of them. So, to be able to step back.
00:55:00.820 --> 00:55:04.820 Linda Marsanico: is a gift to say, what am I thinking?
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:06.980 Linda Marsanico: And if I don't like it.
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.960 Linda Marsanico: I can change it. And I don't mean fighting with it.
00:55:11.120 --> 00:55:17.970 Linda Marsanico: So I have, oh, I can't do anything right. So, I have to tell you, I'm a member of Toastmasters.
00:55:18.630 --> 00:55:24.799 Linda Marsanico: I became… I took the role of Toastmaster after years of doing it, but I hadn't prepared.
00:55:25.580 --> 00:55:37.439 Linda Marsanico: what a flop I was, in front of my colleagues, 15, 20 people. And I said to myself, alright, I didn't prepare, next time I'm gonna prepare and I'm going to do it better.
00:55:37.640 --> 00:55:47.430 Linda Marsanico: All right? The energy, when we do that, is very, very different from taking ourselves to task and saying negative things. So the idea is, if I say.
00:55:47.860 --> 00:55:52.389 Linda Marsanico: I can't do anything right. I can… Replace it with…
00:55:52.560 --> 00:56:04.400 Linda Marsanico: You know, I did something that I wasn't so happy with, but I'm gonna do it better the next time. I'm gonna rewind the reel and figure out a way that pleases me. It's gonna be really great.
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:06.120 Linda Marsanico: Like that.
00:56:06.250 --> 00:56:10.920 Linda Marsanico: And that takes a lot of work, because remember, thoughts are coming all the time.
00:56:11.030 --> 00:56:13.939 Linda Marsanico: And you say, oh, there's a negative thought again.
00:56:15.270 --> 00:56:18.820 Linda Marsanico: What can I say that replaces that negative thought?
00:56:19.070 --> 00:56:20.670 Linda Marsanico: With something loving.
00:56:21.300 --> 00:56:25.760 Linda Marsanico: We want to talk to ourselves the way a kind parent would talk to ourselves.
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:27.700 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: To re-parent ourselves.
00:56:28.530 --> 00:56:33.839 Linda Marsanico: Alright? So know what the thoughts are, step back, And say, how will I…
00:56:34.220 --> 00:56:40.790 Linda Marsanico: Because there needs to be an awareness and a decision to work at this.
00:56:41.610 --> 00:56:44.890 Linda Marsanico: Because the effects are amazing when it's put into place.
00:56:46.090 --> 00:56:52.119 Linda Marsanico: Then the next thing is, Next idea is to know what our habitual behavioral response is.
00:56:52.370 --> 00:56:56.909 Linda Marsanico: Habitual behavioral response is a phrase from David Hawkins.
00:56:57.140 --> 00:57:01.049 Linda Marsanico: MD, PhD, who moved to Sedona
00:57:02.250 --> 00:57:07.110 Linda Marsanico: was revered in Sedona. He wrote books, I have most of his books on my shelf.
00:57:07.490 --> 00:57:12.740 Linda Marsanico: He talks about habitual behavior response. So, if someone says something to me.
00:57:13.890 --> 00:57:16.690 Linda Marsanico: And I become angry every time they say it.
00:57:17.020 --> 00:57:18.660 Linda Marsanico: Do I want to continue that?
00:57:19.100 --> 00:57:19.950 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Right.
00:57:19.950 --> 00:57:23.639 Linda Marsanico: So, I might… what I can do is make a plan.
00:57:23.900 --> 00:57:30.860 Linda Marsanico: to act differently. Because remember, a shift in me is going to create a shift in someone else.
00:57:33.580 --> 00:57:43.059 Linda Marsanico: And so, making changes in habitual behavioral responses is a very effective way to change our energy.
00:57:44.610 --> 00:57:45.100 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Beautiful.
00:57:45.100 --> 00:57:48.059 Linda Marsanico: So, if somebody comes up to me and
00:57:48.350 --> 00:57:53.309 Linda Marsanico: Some people like to be a little fresh. Someone recently said, oh, so you're late again.
00:57:53.810 --> 00:57:57.929 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: So I said, oh, it's so good to see you, and I kissed him, and I walked away.
00:57:59.770 --> 00:58:03.049 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: There you go. Yep, did not even take the bait.
00:58:03.050 --> 00:58:06.740 Linda Marsanico: I didn't. So that… and that took a lot of work for me.
00:58:07.070 --> 00:58:14.630 Linda Marsanico: Because this is a person that's very close to me, within the family. So… But it's doable.
00:58:14.930 --> 00:58:17.839 Linda Marsanico: And when we… Work at it.
00:58:18.930 --> 00:58:20.000 Linda Marsanico: It's effective.
00:58:20.240 --> 00:58:24.730 Linda Marsanico: Remember, it's changing our interactions, and it's changing our energy.
00:58:25.990 --> 00:58:26.590 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Beautiful.
00:58:26.720 --> 00:58:31.669 Linda Marsanico: The next thing I would suggest is a meditation and mantra practice.
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:37.780 Linda Marsanico: I use mantra when I'm too… Preoccupied to meditate.
00:58:37.940 --> 00:58:44.830 Linda Marsanico: If I… if somebody says something to me, and it's running through my mind, bothering me, I do…
00:58:45.190 --> 00:58:58.319 Linda Marsanico: a mantra. I am calm. I am focused. And one thing I love to say is, I am a quiet mind. And I like… it's not really great grammar, but I am is a very powerful
00:58:59.700 --> 00:59:04.300 Linda Marsanico: Affirmation, which gives me an electromagnetic charge to my higher self.
00:59:04.730 --> 00:59:07.560 Linda Marsanico: So I am a quiet mind.
00:59:08.120 --> 00:59:11.340 Linda Marsanico: You put that mantra in, Now.
00:59:11.470 --> 00:59:17.820 Linda Marsanico: Meditation is a blessing. When… Our mind is at rest when we're not depressed.
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:27.529 Linda Marsanico: It's a beautiful thing. I love to meditate. At Kripalo, I meditated. So I pray for something, and then I meditate for the response.
00:59:29.660 --> 00:59:34.190 Linda Marsanico: And then I would suggest Letting go of what doesn't serve.
00:59:36.180 --> 00:59:43.330 Linda Marsanico: Now, Everybody's talking about letting go of what doesn't serve, I see it written everywhere.
00:59:44.270 --> 00:59:46.280 Linda Marsanico: And it's important to do that.
00:59:46.730 --> 00:59:52.739 Linda Marsanico: Whether it's letting go of Clothes that we haven't worn for a number of years.
00:59:52.970 --> 00:59:57.500 Linda Marsanico: Or, or… Clutter, because it affects our environment.
00:59:57.830 --> 01:00:03.339 Linda Marsanico: If I'm angry, because to be compassionate, I need to be forgiving.
01:00:03.910 --> 01:00:05.980 Linda Marsanico: Now, I write this to
01:00:06.210 --> 01:00:21.849 Linda Marsanico: It's not easy to forgive sometimes. We can't just say, I'm gonna forgive somebody. We have to be ready to forgive, and it may take work. I may need to feel more powerful, I may need to get a new job, I may need to feel more self-loving.
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:22.730 Linda Marsanico: But…
01:00:23.150 --> 01:00:34.129 Linda Marsanico: I can, on the adventure of the spiritual path, say, alright, I'm feeling this way, but I'm working toward forgiveness. Because what I hold against
01:00:34.500 --> 01:00:37.320 Linda Marsanico: Then… I'm holding against myself.
01:00:38.540 --> 01:00:48.890 Linda Marsanico: So forgiveness is so important, to keep that in mind. What's the saying that I think that if I poison somebody, but I'm poisoning myself instead, as well?
01:00:50.080 --> 01:00:50.660 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: That's right.
01:00:50.660 --> 01:00:56.290 Linda Marsanico: It's very… these are very, very important, because in this adventure.
01:00:56.570 --> 01:01:00.340 Linda Marsanico: We have people who do things that upset us.
01:01:00.680 --> 01:01:04.680 Linda Marsanico: We have traumas to heal. There's a lot to do.
01:01:05.020 --> 01:01:09.789 Linda Marsanico: And with these tips, and there are more tips in… there are 12 tips.
01:01:10.420 --> 01:01:13.889 Linda Marsanico: for the A train to Sedona to get on the express train.
01:01:14.230 --> 01:01:27.729 Linda Marsanico: to actually get on… because the A train is an express. So when I first wrote about this on Twitter, somebody said to me, that's not… the A train doesn't look like your book cover. And they put a picture of the A train. And I said, I know, this is a representation.
01:01:27.730 --> 01:01:30.070 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Exactly.
01:01:30.310 --> 01:01:33.359 Linda Marsanico: But the A train is an express train.
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:37.769 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Beautiful. Thank you so, so much, Linda. I think those are…
01:01:38.110 --> 01:01:45.129 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: so key. All of them, all of those that you just listed, they're so key to
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:50.990 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Stepping on the path and moving forward on the path in little ways.
01:01:51.820 --> 01:01:53.700 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And big waves.
01:01:53.700 --> 01:01:55.580 Linda Marsanico: And they add up.
01:01:56.720 --> 01:01:57.410 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
01:01:57.580 --> 01:01:58.390 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Yeah.
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:02.720 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: All right, where we're at the end of our time together.
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:09.029 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: And I want to thank you for joining me. This has been a lovely conversation. I'm so glad you came.
01:02:09.030 --> 01:02:10.620 Linda Marsanico: I'm glad to, Siobhan.
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:25.400 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: So glad you came. And to our listeners, thank you for watching and listening in, and join me next week on the expansion Room, and I hope that you have a beautiful, guided week.
01:02:27.030 --> 01:02:28.030 Linda Marsanico: Thank you, Siobhan.
01:02:28.220 --> 01:02:28.860 Shervon Laurice | The Expansion Room: Thank you.
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