Listeners will gain profound insights into the hidden impact of unresolved trauma and grief, and how suppressing emotions can affect both mental and physical health. Mike's journey from silence to healing and self-discovery offers hope and practical wisdom for anyone struggling with their own pain.
This episode will resonate with those who have experienced loss, carry emotional burdens in silence, or are navigating their own healing journey. Mike's message that "vulnerability is strength" challenges traditional notions of resilience and provides a roadmap for confronting inner struggles.
Why they should listen:
This is a conversation that offers real hope and transformation. Mike's honest account of his healing path demonstrates that it's never too late to find peace. Whether you're dealing with grief, trauma, or simply feeling disconnected from yourself, Mike's story will inspire you to break your own silence and begin your healing journey. His insights on how trauma manifests in our bodies and the power of therapy and spiritual healing offer actionable pathways for transformation.
In this deeply moving episode, we sit down with Mike Maclaughlin to explore a truth many of us avoid: the weight of unexpressed grief and trauma doesn't just disappear—it lives in our bodies, our relationships, and our daily struggles. After losing his father to dementia in high school and facing the devastating loss of his grandparents, Mike spent years silencing his pain, believing vulnerability was weakness. Through his candid sharing about carrying these burdens alone, Mike reveals how our most painful moments can become our greatest teachers when we finally have the courage to face them. This isn't just another mental health conversation—it's a raw, honest look at what happens when we finally stop running from ourselves.
Mike's transformation through therapy and spiritual healing offers a blueprint for anyone carrying burdens they've never spoken aloud. He shares how physical health issues became the catalyst for addressing decades of unresolved trauma, and why facing our inner demons is the only way to true freedom. If you've ever felt like you're carrying weights no one can see, or wondered why healing feels so elusive, this episode will meet you exactly where you are. Ready to begin your own healing journey? Listen to Self-Aware Soul on Spotify, subscribe to our YouTube channel @jacintahealingarts, and visit JacintaHealingArts.com to discover transformative services designed to help you release trauma, reconnect with your authentic self, and find the peace you deserve. Your healing starts now.
Jacinta begins todays episode by introducing her guest, Mike McLaughlin, who shares with us his personal journey, which began when his father was diagnosed with dementia during his high school years. He experienced the decline and eventual passing of both his father and grandparents, which he struggled to process due to a lack of emotional support and coping tools. In his 30s, after suffering a physical injury and experiencing ongoing health concerns, Mike sought help from psychotherapists to address his traumatic experiences, but he felt he didn't receive the closure he needed.
Jacinta and Mike open the second segment by discussing the journey of self-awareness and personal growth, focusing on how initial self-awareness helped Mike identify and leverage his strengths. They explore how self-acceptance and self-love transformed Mike's mindset, enabling him to view challenges as opportunities for growth and to ride life's waves without being overwhelmed. Mike shares his experience of finding a safe space to be vulnerable and how this acceptance helped him navigate discomfort and build resilience.
Jacintha kicks of the third segment by discussing the importance of creating a safe and judgment-free space for individuals seeking help, emphasizing the healing journey program she offers. She shares Mike's experience of overcoming challenges by using the tools provided, despite feeling judged at times. After being encouraged by Jacinta, Mike shares his positive experience with talk therapy, emphasizing the importance of finding a comfortable therapist and using writing as an outlet for expression. He described a gradual shift in his mindset, attributing his improved outlook to tools learned from Jacinta, such as setting boundaries and focusing on accomplishments.
Jacinta and Mike end todays episode by discussing personal growth and overcoming life challenges. Mike shares another of his journies of letting go of a negative inner critic and finding peace in uncertain times. Jacinta announced she would be taking a short break from the podcast due to personal challenges but assured listeners that her YouTube channel and other platforms would continue to provide content. Mike emphasized the importance of investing in oneself and using available tools to overcome obstacles. The episode concluded with Jacinta and Mike encouraging listeners to prioritize their own well-being and take control of their lives.
00:00:25.330 --> 00:00:36.030 Jacinta Yang: Welcome to Beneath the Calm. Thank you all for joining us today. I'm your host, Jacinta Yang, founder of Jacintha Healing Arts.
00:00:36.210 --> 00:00:41.489 Jacinta Yang: I'm a holistic practitioner, and I offer healing journey.
00:00:41.870 --> 00:00:49.529 Jacinta Yang: Program, for those of us that are going through, different situations in life.
00:00:50.510 --> 00:00:57.870 Jacinta Yang: I created this space… For the sole purpose of, being a safe place.
00:00:58.010 --> 00:01:05.760 Jacinta Yang: For… Us to all come together, share stories and insights and tools to help
00:01:05.900 --> 00:01:09.560 Jacinta Yang: Each other navigate through different life challenges.
00:01:09.700 --> 00:01:16.750 Jacinta Yang: As, you all know, that we all go through different life challenges, From time to time.
00:01:17.100 --> 00:01:26.120 Jacinta Yang: That's what life is about. We never are without challenges. But the important thing is learning how to navigate through them.
00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:34.160 Jacinta Yang: By sharing our personal stories to help inspire and motivate others to find
00:01:34.290 --> 00:01:37.540 Jacinta Yang: The strength to go through them as well.
00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:45.650 Jacinta Yang: I've written book… Take charge, reclaim your life, and be your true self.
00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:52.810 Jacinta Yang: That is my personal journey through different life challenges and struggles that I've…
00:01:52.920 --> 00:02:01.589 Jacinta Yang: experienced in life, whether it's, mental, emotional, physical, medical, everything. And…
00:02:01.810 --> 00:02:11.909 Jacinta Yang: It did take some time for me to have the courage to share my story so that I can help, even remotely, a few.
00:02:12.180 --> 00:02:13.330 Jacinta Yang: people…
00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:15.270 Jacinta Yang: come across.
00:02:17.310 --> 00:02:23.190 Jacinta Yang: My story and the challenges that I had, through my health.
00:02:23.750 --> 00:02:35.049 Jacinta Yang: situation led me to become a holistic practitioner. I've also published other books, My Spiritual Journey, Life as an Empath.
00:02:35.430 --> 00:02:38.670 Jacinta Yang: And let your heart speak, truth lies within.
00:02:40.110 --> 00:02:43.330 Jacinta Yang: As this journey as a holistic practitioner.
00:02:43.450 --> 00:02:46.880 Jacinta Yang: I've also learned a lot along the way from
00:02:47.060 --> 00:02:56.939 Jacinta Yang: my clients who I've helped, who are now being a great support for me as well. So I grow along with the clients that I work with.
00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:02.329 Jacinta Yang: The purpose of this space, let your heart speak.
00:03:03.610 --> 00:03:05.799 Jacinta Yang: This space, beneath the comb.
00:03:05.930 --> 00:03:15.399 Jacinta Yang: It's basically to let people know That it's okay for us to speak…
00:03:15.660 --> 00:03:19.470 Jacinta Yang: And share our story of what we are struggling.
00:03:20.070 --> 00:03:23.289 Jacinta Yang: Rather than holding it within ourselves.
00:03:25.030 --> 00:03:30.229 Jacinta Yang: And the book, Let Your Heart Speak, is basically the same thing, to have a voice.
00:03:31.290 --> 00:03:34.389 Jacinta Yang: To have a voice and share what is really in our heart.
00:03:36.670 --> 00:03:42.729 Jacinta Yang: as I worked through… My life experiences working with clients.
00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:48.470 Jacinta Yang: And also from… Someone very dear and close to me.
00:03:48.990 --> 00:03:57.480 Jacinta Yang: That has… gone through… some emotional abuse.
00:03:59.760 --> 00:04:02.879 Jacinta Yang: And being men, they feel they need to be
00:04:03.040 --> 00:04:09.900 Jacinta Yang: strong, and they need to suffer in silence. And a lot of time, They feel that…
00:04:10.460 --> 00:04:17.190 Jacinta Yang: People won't believe them, because there's a stigma that it is usually the men that are abusers.
00:04:17.290 --> 00:04:19.589 Jacinta Yang: But that is so not true.
00:04:21.060 --> 00:04:26.820 Jacinta Yang: Men to go through that same… Cycle as we women.
00:04:27.820 --> 00:04:32.710 Jacinta Yang: Most often, women do go through Physical abuse.
00:04:32.820 --> 00:04:36.260 Jacinta Yang: which has become visible. You see the bruises.
00:04:37.050 --> 00:04:38.829 Jacinta Yang: And… the hurt?
00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:43.660 Jacinta Yang: But emotional abuse are something no one can see.
00:04:44.300 --> 00:04:49.190 Jacinta Yang: And it's much harder to detect. And if you're somebody who is…
00:04:51.540 --> 00:04:54.780 Jacinta Yang: Who is positive and have a good sense of humor?
00:04:55.430 --> 00:05:01.779 Jacinta Yang: You're able to hide that, and if you were to say that you're going through something like that.
00:05:03.030 --> 00:05:06.069 Jacinta Yang: It's true, sometimes people may not believe it.
00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.620 Jacinta Yang: So I like… My readers to know that
00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:16.600 Jacinta Yang: Believe it if they do tell you that they are going through something.
00:05:16.940 --> 00:05:18.440 Jacinta Yang: It doesn't matter.
00:05:18.850 --> 00:05:21.240 Jacinta Yang: If they are a man or not.
00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:23.030 Jacinta Yang: Because they do.
00:05:23.580 --> 00:05:25.450 Jacinta Yang: Go through the same thing.
00:05:25.860 --> 00:05:27.490 Jacinta Yang: We women go through.
00:05:28.510 --> 00:05:36.589 Jacinta Yang: I know that… emotional abuse, Has a stronger and longer impact.
00:05:36.940 --> 00:05:40.749 Jacinta Yang: In our lives, because I have personally gone through it.
00:05:41.430 --> 00:05:46.099 Jacinta Yang: And as I said, being someone with a good sense of humor, being positive.
00:05:46.310 --> 00:05:49.049 Jacinta Yang: It'll be very hard for anyone to believe.
00:05:49.850 --> 00:05:51.720 Jacinta Yang: That we are going through that.
00:05:52.770 --> 00:05:55.520 Jacinta Yang: Although I've gone past that.
00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:57.500 Jacinta Yang: And I like to help.
00:05:58.260 --> 00:06:04.059 Jacinta Yang: Inspire other people. To find their voice. To find their strength.
00:06:06.380 --> 00:06:07.320 Jacinta Yang: 2.
00:06:07.450 --> 00:06:09.620 Jacinta Yang: Seek out for support.
00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:20.509 Jacinta Yang: Today, I've… invited our special guest, Mike McLaughlin, who have gone through Different life challenges.
00:06:21.330 --> 00:06:26.289 Jacinta Yang: But… The reason I invited him, because he had the strength
00:06:26.770 --> 00:06:29.990 Jacinta Yang: To seek the support he needed.
00:06:30.330 --> 00:06:33.909 Jacinta Yang: To help himself through his life challenges.
00:06:35.370 --> 00:06:38.829 Jacinta Yang: What started out as some physical symptoms.
00:06:39.710 --> 00:06:42.990 Jacinta Yang: That led him on a quest to find answers.
00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:45.229 Jacinta Yang: to help himself.
00:06:45.750 --> 00:06:47.830 Jacinta Yang: to be healthy.
00:06:48.320 --> 00:06:51.160 Jacinta Yang: And led him into several paths.
00:06:51.610 --> 00:06:54.510 Jacinta Yang: So, I'd like to invite, Mike.
00:06:54.810 --> 00:06:58.060 Jacinta Yang: Mike, thank you so much for joining.
00:06:58.330 --> 00:07:04.809 Jacinta Yang: joining me today, and I'm… I'm so glad, and I'm really honored to have you as…
00:07:05.250 --> 00:07:08.679 Jacinta Yang: A client who is so dedicated.
00:07:08.940 --> 00:07:13.630 Jacinta Yang: To your healing journey, and you've done every work
00:07:13.950 --> 00:07:20.629 Jacinta Yang: That was expected. So, Mike, when we first had our initial consult.
00:07:20.790 --> 00:07:27.160 Jacinta Yang: And, I said to you, I will only take you as a client if you're willing to do the homework.
00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:27.770 Mike: Yeah.
00:07:27.770 --> 00:07:34.840 Jacinta Yang: What did that sound like to you? Do you think I was crazy that I'm running a business and I'm making this condition to you?
00:07:35.130 --> 00:07:42.399 Mike: No, it wasn't crazy at all. I thought it was pretty reasonable, actually, when I was sitting there talking to you, because…
00:07:42.580 --> 00:08:00.340 Mike: Like, as somebody who's done psychotherapy and looked at other avenues to start to deal with some things that I've dealt with in my life, you know, I was at the point in time when I was good to start doing the work and good to start doing the digging, because I didn't feel like…
00:08:00.660 --> 00:08:09.580 Mike: I had done that previously, so I knew it was time in my life to start doing that, so… yeah, it wasn't unreasonable at all.
00:08:09.990 --> 00:08:18.980 Jacinta Yang: Good. So, could you, please share with us your story as how this all started you on this quest?
00:08:19.090 --> 00:08:25.880 Jacinta Yang: To find answers, to help yourself, your journey through seeking…
00:08:26.530 --> 00:08:32.490 Jacinta Yang: Help finding, looking for psychotherapy or spiritual healer, and then to me.
00:08:33.270 --> 00:08:43.949 Mike: Yeah, I can… so, yeah, I'd touch on that. So, when I was in high school, my father was diagnosed with dementia, and at such a young age, to…
00:08:43.950 --> 00:08:55.970 Mike: you know, watch a role model and a father figure, start to decline over time. That was very hard for me, as somebody who was that young, like, in my teenage years, to know that.
00:08:56.050 --> 00:09:04.239 Mike: I was very close with my grandparents as well, and, you know, they lived with me when I was younger, so…
00:09:04.900 --> 00:09:21.920 Mike: to watch my dad's health decline, and then watch him pass away at a young age when I was in my 20s, and then also see my grandparents go through not the same thing with dementia, but go through, you know, illness, and eventually pass away as well.
00:09:21.980 --> 00:09:29.760 Mike: It was tough. So, I just didn't have the tools in my toolbox to deal with them at the time, and I was somebody who
00:09:29.860 --> 00:09:35.790 Mike: I guess just didn't feel safe to share their emotions and what they were going through at the time, so…
00:09:36.370 --> 00:09:51.689 Mike: Yeah, I just kind of bottled everything up inside and kept that with me for years. Eventually, I suffered a physical injury in my 30s that, you know, led me to some ongoing health concerns, and because I had bottled everything up.
00:09:52.020 --> 00:09:53.890 Mike: In my previous years.
00:09:54.800 --> 00:10:11.689 Mike: Yeah, stuff had just come to a head, so soon after, I sought help with psychotherapists, as you said, to try and start to work through, some of the traumatic experiences that I've had in my life, and I kind of didn't really feel like,
00:10:11.890 --> 00:10:16.749 Mike: I have gotten the answers and the closure that I needed when talking to them.
00:10:18.400 --> 00:10:27.070 Mike: Not to say that they didn't have their place in my life at the time, but I just felt like there needed to be a little bit more, so… and that's what kind of led me to your program.
00:10:27.410 --> 00:10:31.280 Jacinta Yang: Okay. So, do you mind sharing…
00:10:31.430 --> 00:10:34.689 Jacinta Yang: Some of the ways you were coping.
00:10:34.810 --> 00:10:37.239 Jacinta Yang: With what you dealt with.
00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:44.000 Jacinta Yang: In your teens, losing your dad. Or… or actually prior to losing your dad.
00:10:45.170 --> 00:11:01.120 Mike: Yeah, I mean, as a 20-year-old who didn't feel safe enough in his own body to start to deal with some of the emotions and share what he was going through, I… I honestly really leaned on alcohol at that age, and I drank heavily for
00:11:01.730 --> 00:11:09.069 Mike: 2 years, and it wasn't really… you know, looking back on it now, I have compassion for the person that I was, because I know that
00:11:09.190 --> 00:11:14.039 Mike: I didn't have the tools in my toolbox at the time to deal with it, but,
00:11:14.220 --> 00:11:25.560 Mike: yeah, I mean, it came to a breaking point, like, I had gained a lot of weight through, drinking, and it took a conversation with a friend when I actually ended up opening up to her, and I…
00:11:25.710 --> 00:11:34.989 Mike: I realized, like, I need to start turning my life around, and I stopped drinking, I started going to a gym, and dealing with that aspect of my life at that point.
00:11:36.350 --> 00:11:44.710 Jacinta Yang: So, tell me, In your quest to find answers,
00:11:45.090 --> 00:11:47.970 Jacinta Yang: And then joining the healing journey.
00:11:48.550 --> 00:11:52.960 Jacinta Yang: Can you share that, the progression?
00:11:53.840 --> 00:12:02.309 Mike: Yeah, I… so, initially, it was to deal with family death and deal with Alzheimer's, in talking to psychotherapists, so…
00:12:02.420 --> 00:12:09.990 Mike: you know, a big fear of mine was, is that I was gonna get dementia when I got older, and then eventually I realized, you know.
00:12:10.160 --> 00:12:13.570 Mike: We don't really know the,
00:12:14.450 --> 00:12:20.340 Mike: We don't really know if the disease would skip a generation or anything like that, so,
00:12:20.730 --> 00:12:37.410 Mike: Yeah, I just kind of came to the realization through talk therapy at that point in time. And it was just kind of starting to get out, the things that I had experienced in that time. So let's just start to talk about, you know, things that…
00:12:37.620 --> 00:12:47.910 Mike: were going on with my dad or my grandparents at that point, so… But I had never really felt like I… I had dug deep enough to get that stuff out.
00:12:48.250 --> 00:12:58.679 Jacinta Yang: We'll be going into a break very shortly, so I'm going to ask you a very quick question that can be answered in the time that,
00:12:59.020 --> 00:13:07.649 Jacinta Yang: Now that you've been on this healing journey, how do you feel overall?
00:13:08.430 --> 00:13:11.849 Mike: I… I know we have talked about this, but…
00:13:12.690 --> 00:13:23.140 Mike: it's, you know, I feel really good, because, I know it's the title of one of your videos, but one thing I do talk about is that I'm stronger than I think.
00:13:23.280 --> 00:13:26.779 Jacinta Yang: And it's one of those things that you don't realize until you get.
00:13:26.940 --> 00:13:29.989 Mike: Past the situation, and you look at your past self.
00:13:30.130 --> 00:13:39.409 Mike: And you look at that with compassion, because you didn't have the tools at the time. So, you know, while you can sit there and say.
00:13:40.100 --> 00:13:44.460 Mike: You know, look down on yourself for handling things a certain way.
00:13:44.900 --> 00:13:51.349 Mike: You shouldn't, because you didn't have the tools, so you are stronger than you think, and you just keep pushing every day.
00:13:51.930 --> 00:13:55.499 Jacinta Yang: Okay, so we're going to go on a short break, and we'll come back.
00:13:55.900 --> 00:13:57.159 Jacinta Yang: After the break.
00:15:44.230 --> 00:15:48.400 Jacinta Yang: Welcome back to Beneath the Calm. Thank you for joining.
00:15:48.650 --> 00:15:56.140 Jacinta Yang: us today with Mike here, as before we went on a break, Mike has just mentioned that
00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:07.210 Jacinta Yang: You're stronger than you think, and it is so true. We all don't know the strength we really have until we actually go through
00:16:07.430 --> 00:16:16.580 Jacinta Yang: The different challenges that life throws at us, and as we navigate through them, Then we realize…
00:16:16.950 --> 00:16:19.149 Jacinta Yang: How strong we really are.
00:16:19.430 --> 00:16:24.199 Jacinta Yang: Although, initially, we may feel that we are weak.
00:16:24.490 --> 00:16:34.780 Jacinta Yang: Because we are just holding it within ourself, and trying… trying so hard to not share, because we feel ashamed.
00:16:35.130 --> 00:16:41.240 Jacinta Yang: Of what we are going through, but… In reality, Everyone…
00:16:41.620 --> 00:16:44.079 Jacinta Yang: Goes through something or the other.
00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:52.759 Jacinta Yang: This space is really meant for people to know that we can come here and share and not feel judged.
00:16:53.400 --> 00:16:55.110 Jacinta Yang: It is a life.
00:16:55.470 --> 00:17:00.640 Jacinta Yang: Struggles and challenges that teach us How to be strong.
00:17:01.040 --> 00:17:10.189 Jacinta Yang: And when we are not aware, it will show us, because when we go on a quest to look for answers.
00:17:10.430 --> 00:17:17.949 Jacinta Yang: And we look for tools. I guess that's how, Mike ended with me, and we started on…
00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:24.250 Jacinta Yang: Self-awareness, that was, initial step that I…
00:17:24.569 --> 00:17:29.440 Jacinta Yang: I take my client on this journey, understanding yourself first.
00:17:29.620 --> 00:17:32.280 Jacinta Yang: Before we can really, truly know.
00:17:33.470 --> 00:17:34.720 Jacinta Yang: Where we are.
00:17:35.510 --> 00:17:44.640 Jacinta Yang: So, Mike, let's talk about this, a little bit about… that it, the module, or where…
00:17:45.010 --> 00:17:46.510 Jacinta Yang: I starred you out.
00:17:46.900 --> 00:17:56.640 Jacinta Yang: in your self-awareness journey, can you share how that Initial self-awareness helped you?
00:17:56.910 --> 00:18:00.550 Jacinta Yang: to… Learn the different tools.
00:18:01.620 --> 00:18:07.699 Mike: Yeah, I mean… When I did start out with you, I was…
00:18:09.470 --> 00:18:20.439 Mike: I was unsure of what to look for, like, initially within myself, like, I know we had talked about intuition and, you know, following that, and that was something that I had
00:18:20.700 --> 00:18:30.210 Mike: a tough time, doing initially, but eventually, over time, as you start to kind of unpack things that have happened in your life and look at
00:18:30.270 --> 00:18:36.210 Mike: successes and challenges and what you've overcome. You start to…
00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:52.800 Mike: really develop a sense of who you are as a person, and, you know, I know we looked at even just, like, strengths and weaknesses, and you look at things as your point of view, and you think that they're your weakness, but you can actually spin a lot of those into strengths
00:18:52.800 --> 00:19:01.469 Mike: Because you can see that while you think something is a weakness, it can be overcome in time, or you've already overcome it, you just don't realize it.
00:19:03.120 --> 00:19:08.050 Jacinta Yang: So, having that, realization of
00:19:08.310 --> 00:19:14.980 Jacinta Yang: the weaknesses that you think are weaknesses, how I help you turn them into strength.
00:19:15.380 --> 00:19:17.530 Jacinta Yang: How did that make you feel?
00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.099 Mike: It's definitely a big…
00:19:20.660 --> 00:19:31.560 Mike: light switch moment for you. The light bulb comes on, and you really look at yourself, and you… then you look at the list that you provide, and you write down what you've accomplished in your life.
00:19:32.310 --> 00:19:35.130 Mike: from any age, really.
00:19:35.460 --> 00:19:53.269 Mike: The light bulb comes on, and you realize you've done a lot, and you are, you know, you're enough, regardless of what… maybe a voice inside your head, or your pre-programmed thing in your subconscious tells you you are enough, and when you look at those lists, it really makes you realize that you are.
00:19:54.570 --> 00:20:02.570 Jacinta Yang: So this, self-love, part… that I've been…
00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.709 Jacinta Yang: Asking you to really go in and love yourself.
00:20:07.820 --> 00:20:12.829 Jacinta Yang: Can you share that part of how that helped you in your journey?
00:20:16.360 --> 00:20:18.709 Jacinta Yang: Or self-acceptance, really.
00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:34.490 Mike: Yeah, okay. Yeah, self-acceptance, you kind of just realize that you are where you are, because that's where you're supposed to be, and, you know, it's okay sometimes to struggle, but it's… one thing that I have kind of said to myself is, is that you have to kind of
00:20:35.310 --> 00:20:39.349 Mike: Ride the waves, and you don't let yourself get swept under by
00:20:39.470 --> 00:20:51.120 Mike: by some negativity, or by an event that happened to you on a certain day, you can ride it, but don't let the wave take you under. And that's something that I really,
00:20:51.360 --> 00:21:01.309 Mike: have, like, I have pride in myself for thinking that, and, you know, I really took on that happiness is a choice, and I've heard that before, but…
00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:16.239 Mike: I know I've said this to you before, but when you're, you know, when you're unhappy or anything like that, you can always step out and change your circumstance and change your point of view. And the… I had heard this, I think on a podcast, but the
00:21:16.280 --> 00:21:27.530 Mike: I know I had said this to you, but, you know, you create these invisible bars for yourself that you can eliminate once you start to look at the positives, and you realize that you are happy.
00:21:27.630 --> 00:21:29.650 Mike: So, you know, you can…
00:21:29.770 --> 00:21:34.429 Mike: That's kind of the mindset that I have, but that's what I've been going with.
00:21:35.350 --> 00:21:43.529 Jacinta Yang: So we have these exercises that we do on a weekly basis, where, you know, you have all my three books.
00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:50.670 Jacinta Yang: And we go at random pages, or even random YouTube videos that I have.
00:21:50.780 --> 00:21:54.839 Jacinta Yang: Can you share how that has been helpful, or…
00:21:55.100 --> 00:22:02.880 Jacinta Yang: How, as you said, freaky sometimes it is, like, it's so aligned with the day that you are going through.
00:22:03.330 --> 00:22:14.399 Mike: Yeah, it's very interesting. It's very interesting to notice, once you open a page, and the page is random, and you're scrolling from either the front or the back, and you pick one of the three books on the bookshelf.
00:22:14.560 --> 00:22:33.820 Mike: at random to know, and the message really delivers and hits home based on what we were talking about for the hour. It's… it's funny, it's like when you look at the clock and you see the 111 or the 222, and you know, you think of that kind of stuff, but it is, it's funny.
00:22:34.830 --> 00:22:47.740 Jacinta Yang: And it's… it always hit home, right? Right? It doesn't matter what day it is, or which book you pick, and you just open up a page and you get the message that you are needing at that time.
00:22:48.120 --> 00:22:49.370 Jacinta Yang: And,
00:22:49.540 --> 00:22:58.579 Jacinta Yang: I… I can't even tell you how that works, but it's… I just felt that it would work that way, that's when I shared, and it's,
00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:09.719 Jacinta Yang: it's not just you. Even my other clients that are doing the Healing Journey program, we do the same exercises, and also the,
00:23:10.120 --> 00:23:20.310 Jacinta Yang: the YouTube videos that I have on the personal and spiritual growth, on, also on Spotify's, my channel.
00:23:20.510 --> 00:23:22.390 Jacinta Yang: Self-aware soul.
00:23:22.510 --> 00:23:28.889 Jacinta Yang: So, can you share how some of those content helps you?
00:23:31.460 --> 00:23:35.290 Mike: Yeah, okay, so something that I've,
00:23:35.450 --> 00:23:41.619 Mike: had issues with in the past, outside of the, you know, what I spoke about earlier.
00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:59.590 Mike: Something like setting boundaries and speaking up for myself, those kind of things were things, I think, as a person who I believe, when I was growing up, I was a people pleaser, but even just, you know, opening the book to realize that you had set a line in the sand at a certain point in time.
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:13.329 Mike: you know, trying to find my voice, and trying to set my boundaries in my life to… to make my life, I guess, better. So, you know, it's just one of those things. That's kind of, I guess, one of the examples, but…
00:24:15.590 --> 00:24:23.299 Jacinta Yang: So now, when you started out on the journey, And… where you are.
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.409 Jacinta Yang: I guess, could you say you've…
00:24:27.570 --> 00:24:30.950 Jacinta Yang: Ever imagined you'll be where you are today?
00:24:31.490 --> 00:24:48.349 Mike: No, because I… I think… so this can go for anybody, not just me, but if you do start to put in the work, and you do start to dig into yourself, and you take a journey seriously, and take your life seriously enough to start to unpack some of the things that you've packed away.
00:24:48.610 --> 00:25:01.960 Mike: at the time, when I first met you, did I think that I would be at this point today? No. But I believe with the hard work and the dedication, to put the time into yourself, and as you said, that self-love.
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:12.360 Mike: And that's a form of it. You know, it's… it's actually really rewarding to get to this point. Just, I didn't think… yeah, I definitely didn't think it would happen this quickly.
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:19.600 Jacinta Yang: Okay, so, I'm gonna touch upon… a little bit on the self-acceptance.
00:25:19.950 --> 00:25:25.099 Jacinta Yang: And when you actually worked on the self-acceptance.
00:25:25.290 --> 00:25:35.799 Jacinta Yang: Do you notice a change in how you, receive things when somebody says something to you?
00:25:37.020 --> 00:25:38.970 Mike: Yeah, I think becoming more… In comparison?
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:58.989 Mike: Yeah, you become more self-aware, and you become more, you know, mindfulness, and you become more aware of, you know, things that people say to you, or things like that, and people notice a change in your appearance, or they are smiling more, or that you've changed over time, so just being aware of that, but…
00:25:59.770 --> 00:26:03.980 Jacinta Yang: I guess, would you say that when you accept yourself.
00:26:04.250 --> 00:26:07.770 Jacinta Yang: If anybody says something, or tries to put you down.
00:26:09.930 --> 00:26:11.700 Jacinta Yang: They don't have a chance of…
00:26:12.130 --> 00:26:14.710 Jacinta Yang: Being able to put you down now, right?
00:26:14.710 --> 00:26:23.689 Mike: Yeah, because you… once you do put in the work, or, you know, once you realize that you have a list of accomplishments and all the things that you've gone through.
00:26:23.850 --> 00:26:34.960 Mike: And the hardships, or the really good times in your life, you realize you persevered, and you've survived those difficult times, so you can look at it and say.
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:42.490 Mike: these are the positives that I have for myself, so when somebody does say something like that, you can still take that away and still
00:26:43.300 --> 00:26:47.299 Mike: See the good, and you don't have to take what they say as face value.
00:26:48.550 --> 00:26:55.070 Jacinta Yang: And Mike, I would say, it does take a lot of courage to start opening up.
00:26:55.370 --> 00:27:09.059 Jacinta Yang: And you've been very transparent in what you needed help in, and I think that was the process of helping you get to where you are as quickly as you said you have reached.
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:15.939 Jacinta Yang: As I mentioned earlier, This space was basically…
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:19.110 Jacinta Yang: I started this as a safe place.
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:24.199 Jacinta Yang: For men to be able to… Feel safe.
00:27:24.580 --> 00:27:33.420 Jacinta Yang: And, I know you mentioned that… When you initially… Talk to me.
00:27:33.810 --> 00:27:37.910 Jacinta Yang: You didn't see in my face that I was gonna judge you.
00:27:37.910 --> 00:27:40.680 Mike: Can you, I didn't know that.
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:45.969 Jacinta Yang: That's the, impression I gave, but…
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.710 Jacinta Yang: Can you share that a little bit before we go into break?
00:27:51.320 --> 00:27:56.069 Mike: Yeah, I think, you know, as somebody who wasn't vulnerable and didn't share a lot
00:27:56.260 --> 00:28:02.189 Mike: Growing up, to know that you're in a safe space, to be able to share things, and…
00:28:03.130 --> 00:28:09.889 Mike: Even though things are uncomfortable, it's okay to sit with the discomfort, and it's okay to…
00:28:10.070 --> 00:28:15.680 Mike: Voice those things, because… I guess my mindset was always that I wouldn't…
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:32.140 Mike: be accepted, or, you know, it would be taken in a different light, but to have somebody just receive what you're telling them at face value, and then either give an opinion, or just be there to listen, and be there for you, that's super important, because that makes you feel like
00:28:32.800 --> 00:28:35.280 Mike: You know, your problems aren't…
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.049 Mike: as big, you can work through them.
00:28:38.340 --> 00:28:47.680 Jacinta Yang: I think we're going into break shortly, but I want to get back to this a little bit, because it's going to be very important.
00:28:48.070 --> 00:28:53.179 Jacinta Yang: for… Our listeners to know how you charged on
00:28:53.380 --> 00:29:00.909 Jacinta Yang: Despite the different challenges you went. So we'll come back shortly after the break and continue.
00:30:37.420 --> 00:30:47.280 Jacinta Yang: Welcome back to Beneath the Calm, and thank you once again for joining us here today. As, before we went on break.
00:30:47.780 --> 00:30:53.689 Jacinta Yang: We were talking about, feeling safe, And no judgment.
00:30:54.070 --> 00:31:05.609 Jacinta Yang: Of whatever you're going through, just know that there are other people that are going through different struggles, some of them very similar.
00:31:05.800 --> 00:31:09.759 Jacinta Yang: And some of them are different. It does not matter.
00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:11.260 Jacinta Yang: What?
00:31:11.770 --> 00:31:17.130 Jacinta Yang: Situation we are in, and it's so important
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.510 Jacinta Yang: For us to have that safe place.
00:31:20.980 --> 00:31:25.260 Jacinta Yang: to go to… to help… Good help.
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.030 Jacinta Yang: their resources.
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.440 Jacinta Yang: in the Healing Journey program that I…
00:31:31.790 --> 00:31:36.890 Jacinta Yang: offer is basically, I do try my best.
00:31:37.860 --> 00:31:45.250 Jacinta Yang: To take you on the healing journey so that you can find your happiness, offer you the tools
00:31:45.560 --> 00:31:47.060 Jacinta Yang: that you need.
00:31:47.510 --> 00:31:49.010 Jacinta Yang: To get through them.
00:31:50.630 --> 00:31:52.580 Jacinta Yang: I found these tools.
00:31:52.910 --> 00:31:55.650 Jacinta Yang: on my own, when I was struggling.
00:31:55.910 --> 00:31:59.830 Jacinta Yang: Through my life, And I just felt…
00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:07.070 Jacinta Yang: That if these tools that I can offer to others, to help them, It would be…
00:32:07.360 --> 00:32:09.710 Jacinta Yang: It would mean that I've done my best.
00:32:10.230 --> 00:32:11.929 Jacinta Yang: To be of service.
00:32:12.970 --> 00:32:16.320 Jacinta Yang: To those around me, or anyone.
00:32:17.360 --> 00:32:19.629 Jacinta Yang: And Mike has joined us.
00:32:20.010 --> 00:32:22.110 Jacinta Yang: On his healing journey.
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:30.880 Jacinta Yang: And, as mentioned, he… Was very dedicated in… And it's healing.
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.799 Jacinta Yang: He applied all the tools.
00:32:34.260 --> 00:32:35.590 Jacinta Yang: That he got.
00:32:36.330 --> 00:32:43.480 Jacinta Yang: And that led him… To… to where he is today, where he's able to navigate through
00:32:43.590 --> 00:32:46.470 Jacinta Yang: Pretty much most of the challenges.
00:32:46.810 --> 00:32:49.319 Jacinta Yang: That he goes through.
00:32:49.630 --> 00:32:54.509 Jacinta Yang: So, Mike Before we went on break.
00:32:54.800 --> 00:33:11.060 Jacinta Yang: I recall mentioning something to you that, someone commented that they don't feel judged when they talk to me, and you agreed that, and then I said, why did you experience
00:33:11.530 --> 00:33:17.890 Jacinta Yang: That feeling of being judged, And… you agreed that you have seen…
00:33:18.600 --> 00:33:22.939 Jacinta Yang: People's faces where you felt you were judged.
00:33:23.180 --> 00:33:26.889 Jacinta Yang: But you know what is really amazing? Is you didn't stop.
00:33:27.970 --> 00:33:29.620 Jacinta Yang: You didn't stop.
00:33:30.610 --> 00:33:41.509 Jacinta Yang: Reaching out, looking for… support that you needed to get. Because quite often, sometimes, It can be very discouraging.
00:33:42.140 --> 00:33:48.339 Jacinta Yang: When you feel judged, Can you share how… What was it?
00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:55.549 Jacinta Yang: that… Made you persist in just charging forward.
00:33:55.780 --> 00:33:57.830 Jacinta Yang: And see, I need the help.
00:33:58.120 --> 00:34:02.749 Jacinta Yang: This person is gonna judge me, fine, but I'll find somewhere else, because…
00:34:03.320 --> 00:34:07.179 Jacinta Yang: It was not just one person that you felt that.
00:34:07.430 --> 00:34:14.399 Jacinta Yang: Please share that. I'd like you to share that story so you can help inspire other men.
00:34:14.510 --> 00:34:16.360 Jacinta Yang: That are going through the same.
00:34:17.110 --> 00:34:32.430 Mike: I think, you know, in dealing with talk therapy and stuff like that, I can find… I mean, everybody's different, so I feel like… I guess just, I didn't really gel with the people that I was talking to at certain points in time, or…
00:34:32.620 --> 00:34:37.009 Mike: you know, I just didn't get the right vibe from a certain person, but…
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:41.889 Mike: Once you find that level of comfort with somebody, and you're able to share.
00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:54.099 Mike: your story, and share what you're going through and kind of start to express those feelings and stuff like that. That's super important to… to have that level of…
00:34:55.730 --> 00:34:56.900 Mike: I guess, like.
00:34:57.180 --> 00:35:05.770 Mike: You know, or a therapist, client, or, you know, friend, even if you're talking to a friend, to have that level of comfort, that's…
00:35:06.030 --> 00:35:08.239 Mike: Kind of what I found was super important.
00:35:09.410 --> 00:35:16.619 Mike: But… and then, yeah, that's kind of what I found with you, is being able to share those life experiences, and be able to
00:35:17.080 --> 00:35:25.239 Mike: Even do something like, you know, write about my dad and find that outlet for myself to… to be able to express and…
00:35:25.590 --> 00:35:29.269 Mike: say what I need to say and get what I need to say out.
00:35:30.270 --> 00:35:31.850 Mike: And feel comfortable.
00:35:32.130 --> 00:35:48.249 Mike: Yeah, and deal with… and, you know, and feel the things that are coming out as you're typing or writing or experiencing things within your body. So, you know, like, as I said, sitting with those things and feeling the feelings, that's like…
00:35:48.380 --> 00:35:52.599 Mike: Important, and to know that you're not going to be judged when you… when you write about it.
00:35:53.580 --> 00:35:59.690 Jacinta Yang: So, when you initially started coming, and your girlfriend, Stephanie.
00:36:00.040 --> 00:36:04.340 Jacinta Yang: She said to me, thank you for whatever you're doing for Mike.
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:12.030 Jacinta Yang: And he's, much more positive. Can you share that What…
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:17.700 Jacinta Yang: Part of the journey that led you to feel more positive.
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.459 Jacinta Yang: How to look at life more positively.
00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:31.160 Mike: I think it was just a gradual shift in general for me. As you said, like, taking the tools and
00:36:31.290 --> 00:36:39.939 Mike: Being more mindful, and setting boundaries, and looking at your accomplishments, and all the things that you've gone through and you've persevered through.
00:36:40.450 --> 00:36:53.540 Mike: Once you start to look at that list, and you realize that the list is pretty big, you do start to turn… you start to turn it around, and like I said, you can have a bad moment in a day, but don't…
00:36:54.250 --> 00:37:01.950 Mike: I took that mindset to not let myself get swept up in the moment, because the moment is just a one period of time, so…
00:37:02.270 --> 00:37:20.010 Mike: you know, that mindset shift, to look at the day as a whole was even something that was different for me. So, just when… once you do start to apply the tools, your brain starts thinking a little bit differently, and you start feeling differently, and that's, you know, that's important in your growth.
00:37:21.310 --> 00:37:24.050 Jacinta Yang: I I know I was tall.
00:37:24.590 --> 00:37:36.309 Jacinta Yang: My clients that once you start a journey, you will see things differently, you hear things differently, and you perceive and feel things differently.
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:44.800 Jacinta Yang: So, would… would you say that having that
00:37:45.190 --> 00:37:52.680 Jacinta Yang: Makes you feel that you have the ability to be happy.
00:37:53.710 --> 00:37:59.119 Mike: Yeah, because, like I said, happiness is a mindset, so you… so I wake up… I know…
00:37:59.260 --> 00:38:17.119 Mike: I wake up every day and I say, today's gonna be a great day because I say it's gonna be a great day. And that… I learned that from you, but I took it, like, I take it to heart, and I do wake… I do… before I get out of bed, I say that to myself every morning before biscuit and I go for our walk, so…
00:38:17.690 --> 00:38:29.830 Mike: So it is… yeah, it's that mindset shift and wanting to put in the work into yourself because you're worth it at the end of the day, because you are what you have, right? So you have to put the work in.
00:38:30.220 --> 00:38:32.290 Jacinta Yang: Yeah, actually,
00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:48.650 Jacinta Yang: what Mike was mentioning about this YouTube content that I have is, it's an affirmation that I actually given to a client who was struggling with different affirmations, so I gave her just one affirmation.
00:38:48.770 --> 00:38:55.710 Jacinta Yang: And that's, today's a good day, I intend to make it a good day. And that actually helped.
00:38:55.980 --> 00:39:03.920 Jacinta Yang: a lot of people. I would say even myself. I'm learning as I am creating my content.
00:39:04.620 --> 00:39:09.010 Jacinta Yang: And, when I created the content on mindfulness.
00:39:09.250 --> 00:39:15.570 Jacinta Yang: I think I became even more mindful, or hyper-mindful. So…
00:39:16.410 --> 00:39:29.939 Jacinta Yang: my journey doesn't stop just because I'm teaching someone. I'm learning as I'm teaching. I'm learning from my clients' experiences, and sharing that.
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.359 Jacinta Yang: So, you know…
00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:47.320 Jacinta Yang: be open. Be open to learning. Mike has been very open to learning. He grasps every tools I give him, and he used them right away, to help himself. And,
00:39:47.910 --> 00:39:55.990 Jacinta Yang: I have to say, I'm really proud proud of you, Mike, for… for having…
00:39:56.790 --> 00:40:05.289 Jacinta Yang: The trust and faith in me to guide you in your journey, and
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:12.940 Jacinta Yang: I don't think you wasted even a moment in using the tools.
00:40:13.640 --> 00:40:17.840 Jacinta Yang: I… I would say by using the tools right away.
00:40:18.170 --> 00:40:21.880 Jacinta Yang: That helped you with your growth, wouldn't you say so?
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:35.139 Mike: Yes, because I, like, yeah, like, as I was saying, I was at a point, or, you know, I was at a point where I realized that I needed a change. I just felt it within me before getting to you, and then getting to you. I realized that
00:40:35.420 --> 00:40:46.700 Mike: you know, not that I wasn't gonna take it… I took it very seriously, and I took what you said at base value, and then applied those things, because I realized I was worth it, so…
00:40:47.470 --> 00:40:48.310 Jacinta Yang: Good, good.
00:40:49.350 --> 00:40:56.400 Jacinta Yang: So, I like to, say to my listeners here today, that…
00:40:57.330 --> 00:41:01.559 Jacinta Yang: It doesn't matter how… what we have gone through, doesn't matter what…
00:41:01.670 --> 00:41:06.140 Jacinta Yang: How we manage to get through life challenges.
00:41:06.520 --> 00:41:13.970 Jacinta Yang: As we continue to live, New challenges will always… Come about?
00:41:14.100 --> 00:41:17.679 Jacinta Yang: Because it's, it's a non-stop.
00:41:18.080 --> 00:41:23.310 Jacinta Yang: But the main thing is, How we… Get through it.
00:41:23.930 --> 00:41:27.639 Jacinta Yang: How we apply the tools that we learn.
00:41:28.420 --> 00:41:30.020 Jacinta Yang: To live through it.
00:41:30.980 --> 00:41:33.460 Jacinta Yang: Even myself, personally.
00:41:34.670 --> 00:41:39.810 Jacinta Yang: I have to say that… I'm learning as I'm growing, as well.
00:41:40.100 --> 00:41:45.559 Jacinta Yang: Currently, I am going through some personal challenges.
00:41:46.120 --> 00:41:51.100 Jacinta Yang: But… I'm not letting it… drag me down, because…
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:59.500 Jacinta Yang: Not all challenges will stay with you for the rest of your life. It comes and it goes.
00:41:59.630 --> 00:42:05.040 Jacinta Yang: And just remember, That nothing stays forever.
00:42:05.210 --> 00:42:10.530 Jacinta Yang: So the challenges that you face is not going to stay with you forever.
00:42:10.660 --> 00:42:15.819 Jacinta Yang: It will only stay with you forever if you just hold onto it.
00:42:17.100 --> 00:42:17.990 Jacinta Yang: Cheers.
00:42:18.710 --> 00:42:21.760 Jacinta Yang: look at it, Face it.
00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:25.039 Jacinta Yang: And deal with it, and let it go.
00:42:25.750 --> 00:42:37.960 Jacinta Yang: So, Mike, share with our audience some of the things that you feel you have let go, as we mentioned.
00:42:38.450 --> 00:42:44.659 Jacinta Yang: As I mentioned to you in the beginning of your journey, it's like opening up a bag and
00:42:44.830 --> 00:42:48.779 Jacinta Yang: You know, taking out different things that doesn't serve us.
00:42:49.030 --> 00:42:53.660 Jacinta Yang: So, can you, take us on that process, please.
00:42:54.670 --> 00:43:00.059 Mike: Yeah, I think one of the big things for me was having a negative, like, inner critic.
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:12.700 Mike: So I think just me growing up, for whatever reason, I had that in the back of my head, and it was something that I really let get to me, and it would just get me pretty worked up to hear.
00:43:12.900 --> 00:43:17.540 Mike: you know, what that inner critic is saying. So, you know, when dealing with you, you just…
00:43:17.780 --> 00:43:22.160 Mike: Learn to tune it out, and you keep going with your life, and you keep pushing, and you…
00:43:22.560 --> 00:43:34.320 Mike: regardless of what that voice is saying, that thought is not yours. Your thoughts are, you know, like, your 5% rational mind knows that those thoughts aren't true of what it's saying, so…
00:43:34.450 --> 00:43:38.540 Mike: that was one of the things, I think, for me, that I had learned to let go.
00:43:38.660 --> 00:43:41.689 Mike: Over time, it wasn't something that came quickly, but…
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:45.870 Mike: Yeah, that was… that is one of the things that I have let go.
00:43:46.990 --> 00:43:50.870 Jacinta Yang: Oh, thank you, we're gonna go on a break, and we'll come back.
00:43:52.660 --> 00:43:53.900 Jacinta Yang: Shortly.
00:45:29.930 --> 00:45:40.080 Jacinta Yang: Welcome back to Beneath the Calm. Once again, thank you for joining us today. On today's episode, Finding Peace in Uncertain Times.
00:45:40.200 --> 00:45:47.300 Jacinta Yang: That's what, mike has been doing. He's finding peace in all these different…
00:45:48.150 --> 00:45:53.150 Jacinta Yang: Uncertain times that he has gone through, and
00:45:54.270 --> 00:45:59.079 Jacinta Yang: We are the ones who have control in our life.
00:45:59.470 --> 00:46:02.459 Jacinta Yang: We are the one who can make
00:46:02.700 --> 00:46:05.889 Jacinta Yang: Our life, what we want it to be.
00:46:06.410 --> 00:46:13.360 Jacinta Yang: As Mike mentioned, we have the choice. We have the choice to be happy if we want to be.
00:46:13.500 --> 00:46:20.069 Jacinta Yang: We have the choice to look… For the resources.
00:46:20.570 --> 00:46:24.240 Jacinta Yang: For help that we need to grow.
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.610 Jacinta Yang: And be strong.
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:31.929 Jacinta Yang: and navigate through life. Does it not matter where we are?
00:46:32.200 --> 00:46:34.520 Jacinta Yang: And we can be our own enemy.
00:46:35.120 --> 00:46:42.609 Jacinta Yang: By not being open to growth, We build our own…
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:53.659 Jacinta Yang: prison bars, right? Mike, we talked about we create our own prison bars. Let's… let's talk about that a bit.
00:46:56.160 --> 00:47:05.279 Mike: Yeah, I guess, yeah, that it is very true, like, it's all about the mindset and the way that you do interpret situations in your life, and…
00:47:05.460 --> 00:47:17.629 Mike: You do, like, if you do get frustrated and you get stuck with something that's in your mind that you're dealing with on a daily basis, like, any life experience, those are things that could
00:47:17.720 --> 00:47:26.549 Mike: overwhelm you, and those are things that could keep you stuck in a certain pattern, or keep you stuck in your life, so…
00:47:26.680 --> 00:47:35.659 Mike: You know, making the conscious realization to know that you can actually make yourself happy by changing your situation is… is big.
00:47:37.130 --> 00:47:41.060 Jacinta Yang: Actually, taking the steps to make sure
00:47:41.190 --> 00:47:44.490 Jacinta Yang: That, it doesn't pull us down.
00:47:44.720 --> 00:47:46.390 Jacinta Yang: Doesn't drag us down.
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:58.840 Jacinta Yang: What I'd like to share today is that… No matter what… we go through…
00:47:59.140 --> 00:48:05.580 Jacinta Yang: It's very important for us to take care of ourselves, Take care of our needs.
00:48:06.180 --> 00:48:11.020 Jacinta Yang: Before we can do… for others.
00:48:12.150 --> 00:48:16.070 Jacinta Yang: We cannot fill others' cup on an empty cup.
00:48:16.390 --> 00:48:19.720 Jacinta Yang: We have to fill our own cup first.
00:48:21.510 --> 00:48:26.049 Jacinta Yang: Having said that, As I mentioned, currently I'm…
00:48:26.710 --> 00:48:30.189 Jacinta Yang: Going through my own personal challenges.
00:48:30.670 --> 00:48:33.730 Jacinta Yang: My family and I are…
00:48:34.560 --> 00:48:37.629 Jacinta Yang: Grieving a loss of a family member.
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:44.360 Jacinta Yang: And, also… Grieving a loss.
00:48:46.300 --> 00:48:48.180 Jacinta Yang: A potential loss.
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:50.260 Jacinta Yang: As well.
00:48:50.660 --> 00:48:56.380 Jacinta Yang: And because of that, I will be… Taking a short break.
00:48:57.100 --> 00:49:00.640 Jacinta Yang: So I can be there to support my family.
00:49:01.790 --> 00:49:04.150 Jacinta Yang: And take care of myself.
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:06.590 Jacinta Yang: Give myself the time.
00:49:07.770 --> 00:49:11.870 Jacinta Yang: To grieve and to heal as well.
00:49:13.130 --> 00:49:15.839 Jacinta Yang: So, I will be taking a short break.
00:49:15.990 --> 00:49:22.009 Jacinta Yang: And I want you all to know that… You are important.
00:49:22.580 --> 00:49:24.250 Jacinta Yang: You are enough.
00:49:25.470 --> 00:49:32.170 Jacinta Yang: And… you have… The full control of your life.
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:34.539 Jacinta Yang: How you want it to go.
00:49:35.210 --> 00:49:37.250 Jacinta Yang: And where you want to go.
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:49.800 Jacinta Yang: However… My podcasts, on Self-Aware Soul and YouTube channel, I will continue to share.
00:49:50.900 --> 00:49:55.570 Jacinta Yang: some… insights… and content.
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:04.410 Jacinta Yang: During this time, And, please feel free… To subscribe to…
00:50:05.080 --> 00:50:08.319 Jacinta Yang: My YouTube channel, Jacintha Healing Arts.
00:50:09.490 --> 00:50:13.069 Jacinta Yang: and Self-Aware Soul on Spotify.
00:50:13.670 --> 00:50:16.040 Jacinta Yang: I'd like to thank everyone.
00:50:16.300 --> 00:50:17.939 Jacinta Yang: Who has joined us?
00:50:18.500 --> 00:50:27.499 Jacinta Yang: And I hope that… our story, Mike's story, Will inspire you.
00:50:27.870 --> 00:50:29.320 Jacinta Yang: To take the step.
00:50:31.780 --> 00:50:40.989 Jacinta Yang: to… to your healing journey. Take the step and find… The courage within you.
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:48.030 Jacinta Yang: If you don't know where it is, seek out Seek out resources.
00:50:48.530 --> 00:50:54.600 Jacinta Yang: Or if you'd like to reach me, at Jacinthahalingarts at gmail.com.
00:50:54.910 --> 00:51:00.750 Jacinta Yang: Or visit my website, just in the… healingarts.com.
00:51:02.730 --> 00:51:08.490 Jacinta Yang: I will still be offering services, I'm just taking a break on this podcast show.
00:51:08.720 --> 00:51:10.050 Jacinta Yang: Briefly.
00:51:10.370 --> 00:51:15.490 Jacinta Yang: So that I'm not overwhelmed with everything else that is going on.
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:20.440 Jacinta Yang: And I… I'm so grateful.
00:51:21.560 --> 00:51:24.089 Jacinta Yang: to Mike for sharing his story.
00:51:24.690 --> 00:51:31.470 Jacinta Yang: Seeing the transformation And the changes in the lives.
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:37.889 Jacinta Yang: of the people… That has come across my path.
00:51:39.150 --> 00:51:41.409 Jacinta Yang: Has been a great joy.
00:51:42.110 --> 00:51:45.299 Jacinta Yang: And I feel like I'm living my purpose.
00:51:47.520 --> 00:51:54.109 Jacinta Yang: And I… Honestly… Don't know how to…
00:51:54.370 --> 00:51:57.849 Jacinta Yang: I don't think I have word that I can share the gratitude.
00:51:58.080 --> 00:51:59.560 Jacinta Yang: That I feel.
00:52:01.240 --> 00:52:04.479 Jacinta Yang: For everyone that has crossed my path.
00:52:04.980 --> 00:52:11.190 Jacinta Yang: Mike, we're… we're almost coming to, the end of the show.
00:52:12.010 --> 00:52:18.590 Jacinta Yang: Please, can you say some… Words… for our audience.
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:28.950 Jacinta Yang: To inspire them, help motivate them to take They're… Mental health. And their happiness.
00:52:29.340 --> 00:52:31.399 Jacinta Yang: Into their own hands, please.
00:52:31.890 --> 00:52:36.439 Mike: Yeah, so I can kind of summarize some of what I said, so…
00:52:37.160 --> 00:52:43.049 Mike: Just know that you are enough, and you are worth the time to put in.
00:52:43.220 --> 00:52:45.159 Mike: Put the time into yourself.
00:52:45.420 --> 00:52:53.829 Mike: like I had said about the toolbox, and if you're dealing with something in your life, and you don't feel like you have the tools to deal with it.
00:52:54.440 --> 00:53:02.660 Mike: Go out and find the tools to deal with it, because then you'll have that tool in your toolbox as you go on in your life, and then you'll be able to apply it.
00:53:02.830 --> 00:53:12.449 Mike: So it's not something that you're gonna struggle with for a very long time. It's something that you can overcome, and really start to be able to deal with those kind of things, and…
00:53:12.750 --> 00:53:15.929 Mike: No, really just don't let those… those…
00:53:16.940 --> 00:53:23.130 Mike: critical moments, or those big moments in your life take you under. There's… there's always gonna be a better
00:53:23.290 --> 00:53:24.620 Mike: a brighter…
00:53:24.810 --> 00:53:31.729 Mike: time in your life, and why couldn't that time be now? You can take positives out of everything, and
00:53:31.940 --> 00:53:36.710 Mike: And turn that around, and, you know, Yeah.
00:53:37.370 --> 00:53:39.290 Jacinta Yang: So, Mike, would you say…
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:48.960 Jacinta Yang: The investment you have made in your healing journey program with me, would you say it was well worth the money?
00:53:49.580 --> 00:54:02.890 Mike: Yes, it is, because it's changed me as a person, and, you know, I realize that it's okay to stay with the discomfort, and it's, you know, it's not okay to push it down, because your body keeps that.
00:54:03.050 --> 00:54:11.349 Mike: And takes that with you everywhere, so it is okay for you to start to deal with those things that might seem daunting at first, but…
00:54:11.460 --> 00:54:13.990 Mike: You know, you get the tools and you keep pushing.
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:15.920 Mike: So it is worth it.
00:54:16.420 --> 00:54:22.670 Jacinta Yang: Thank you, thank you, everyone, for joining us today. As I say, you're well worth
00:54:23.770 --> 00:54:25.800 Jacinta Yang: Worth taken care of.
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:30.809 Jacinta Yang: Take care of yourself. Invest in yourself.
00:54:31.020 --> 00:54:34.089 Jacinta Yang: First. That's most important.
00:54:34.270 --> 00:54:45.469 Jacinta Yang: Because… everything else is secondary. When you are happy, you're able to give more. You're going to share more.
00:54:46.030 --> 00:54:51.740 Jacinta Yang: And, yeah, and then you share joy all around, right, Mike?
00:54:51.740 --> 00:54:52.929 Mike: Yeah, exactly.
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.000 Jacinta Yang: Thank you once again, and thank you, Mike.
00:54:57.350 --> 00:54:58.770 Mike: Thank you, thanks for having me.
00:54:59.550 --> 00:55:03.890 Jacinta Yang: Have a good day, and I will see you all very soon.
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