Because sometimes the best way forward is to glance back, this recap distills 20 episodes into one refreshing pour of insights you can sip in under an hour. It’s fun, fast, and just what you need to remember why success is always best served with a splash.
We’ve served up 20 episodes of cocktails, conversations, and life-changing insights, and now it’s time for the after-party. In this special recap, we’ll shake things up by pouring a quick shot of wisdom from each episode. Think of it as the “Cliff Notes” of cocktails: all the flavor, all the fun, and just the highlights you need to remember (without the hangover). From Appletinis and accountability to Gimlets and growth mindset, we’ll revisit the best sips, the biggest laughs, and the boldest takeaways that can still transform your life, career, and business.
So, if you’ve missed an episode or just want a splashy refresher, this one’s your barstool cheat sheet to the wisdom we’ve been mixing all season. Cocktail of the Week: White Wine of your choice!
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In this opening segment, Bruce Cramer and Dr. Nawtej Dosanjh announced that Serving Up Success with a Splash will be moving from TalkRadio.NYC to its own YouTube channel, marking a bittersweet transition fueled by strong growth, new opportunities, and a loyal audience. They reflected on the show’s expansion, from averaging 500 weekly downloads to reaching over 40,000 views, and highlighted the exciting launch of merchandise and expanded business offerings including coaching, masterminds, and speaking engagements. To set the tone, Bruce revisited the show’s first episode lessons on awareness, action, and accountability—three pillars every business leader should apply to close gaps between current performance and future goals.
In this segment, Bruce and Nawtej revisited their episodes on artificial intelligence, emphasizing both the risks and opportunities it brings for business leaders. They highlighted the importance of focusing on skills AI cannot replicate—such as creativity, empathy, and leadership—while also encouraging leaders to view AI as a partner that can augment productivity and drive innovation. The conversation then shifted to the power of curiosity and conversation, drawing lessons from guests like Mimi Young and Danny Creed, whose growth mindsets, positivity, and people-centered approaches underscored how continuous learning and genuine connection are keys to lasting business success.
In this segment, the hosts revisited their episode on charting your life using a diamond mapping tool that balances business, finances, health, and relationships—reminding leaders that true success cannot be sustained without alignment across all areas. Angie rejoined the show to thank listeners, celebrate the growth of their merch line, and reaffirm their excitement for continuing the journey on YouTube. The team then reflected on their least favorite episodes, with candid admissions that energy, self-doubt, and perfectionism sometimes held them back—yet they used this vulnerability to reinforce lessons about authenticity, balance, and learning as you go.
In the closing segment, the hosts reflected on what they love most about working together: the learning, laughter, and energy that make their show both educational and entertaining for listeners. They emphasized the importance of humility and authenticity—acknowledging each other’s strengths while keeping the tone light and approachable, which they credit as the “magic” behind their success. Finally, they expressed heartfelt gratitude to TalkRadio.NYC, their producers, and their growing audience, framing the move to YouTube not as a goodbye but as an exciting next chapter where they can continue building value for business leaders.
00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:49.550 nawtej dosanjh: You're on mute.
00:00:49.550 --> 00:01:03.759 Bruce Cramer: There we go. Welcome back to Serving Up Success with a Splash! I'm Bruce Kramer, the corporate cockroach, and I'm joined by my brilliant co-host…
00:01:05.250 --> 00:01:14.950 nawtej dosanjh: Hi, Bruce, I'm Nautej Desange, and I'm very grateful that you and Angie call me the Strategy Doctor. And talking of Angie, she's not here this week.
00:01:16.360 --> 00:01:16.999 Bruce Cramer: Do we know what?
00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:17.990 nawtej dosanjh: Here she is.
00:01:18.490 --> 00:01:38.290 nawtej dosanjh: I don't know where she is, actually. I haven't kept tabs on her, I never keep tabs on her. But she… she's… we… but we did know she wasn't going to be here. She sends apologies, and she's looking forward to seeing everybody next time. But Bruce, what have you… what… what have you got to… what are you drinking this evening?
00:01:38.440 --> 00:01:48.339 Bruce Cramer: Well, so tonight, as everyone knows, if you read any of the preamble to the show, our cocktail of the week is white wine of your choice.
00:01:48.460 --> 00:02:03.749 Bruce Cramer: And, this is a Pinot Grigio from Italy. Don't ask me to, pronounce the bottle. I don't know how to… I don't know how to enunciate that.
00:02:03.960 --> 00:02:09.969 Bruce Cramer: But nonetheless, we got some big news this evening.
00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:21.699 nawtej dosanjh: Bruce, I know you've got some news. Well, I know we've got some news. So, you know, how would you classify it? Would you classify it as good news or bad news? What would you say?
00:02:22.040 --> 00:02:29.610 Bruce Cramer: Actually, it's a little bit of both, so let me explain. I'm gonna share my screen for just a second.
00:02:29.860 --> 00:02:36.390 Bruce Cramer: And make sure this comes up. Nitesh, please tell me.
00:02:36.390 --> 00:02:38.220 nawtej dosanjh: If you can see it. Yeah, no, of course.
00:02:38.940 --> 00:02:40.840 nawtej dosanjh: Not yet. There it is, it's up.
00:02:41.430 --> 00:02:57.219 Bruce Cramer: Alright, so the bad news is, and to be honest, it's… there's some sadness here, we're actually moving from Talk Radio New York City. And I'm gonna talk a little bit about it, but first.
00:02:57.300 --> 00:03:03.770 Bruce Cramer: just a huge, huge shout-out to Sam Leibowitz, who heads up
00:03:03.920 --> 00:03:10.130 Bruce Cramer: the, Talk Radio New York City. And then also Jesse.
00:03:10.190 --> 00:03:19.969 Bruce Cramer: who we've learned a ton from on the last 20 episodes that we've been a part of. She's very much coaching us in real time.
00:03:19.970 --> 00:03:30.200 Bruce Cramer: And we'll never be able to thank her enough, because as we joined this group, we were just cutting our teeth on having our own podcast.
00:03:30.230 --> 00:03:33.619 Bruce Cramer: And then I want to thank you, the audience.
00:03:33.670 --> 00:03:51.300 Bruce Cramer: Unbelievable. We did kind of blow up. We've been approached by a number of folks. I guess we're averaging, like, 500 downloads a week. We're up to 40,000 views. Things started to take off.
00:03:51.360 --> 00:04:10.920 Bruce Cramer: And, what I would say, anybody that's looking to start in podcasting and just want to do podcasting, this is the place to be, Talk Radio New York City, because they're awesome. Everybody's awesome. And they got a great lineup of shows, second to none.
00:04:10.920 --> 00:04:26.499 Bruce Cramer: However, because of our explosion, we are getting into merchandising, so we're gonna have a little bit of swag out there, cause everybody told us that serving up success with a splash life career business with the glass.
00:04:26.500 --> 00:04:31.270 Bruce Cramer: We make a great t-shirt. So we're gonna have all kinds of products.
00:04:31.280 --> 00:04:38.420 Bruce Cramer: That are labeled. The other thing, and we haven't done a lot, because we don't want to,
00:04:38.550 --> 00:04:44.659 Bruce Cramer: We wanted this show to be fun, relaxing, and educational.
00:04:44.660 --> 00:05:01.549 Bruce Cramer: But we also, all three of us, have clients and we offer services. And then there are things that we do jointly, whether it be speaking engagements, whether we do mastermind groups collectively, we all do individual coaching.
00:05:01.590 --> 00:05:18.570 Bruce Cramer: And so, the… we were approached and made an offer to really help not only promote the podcast, but our overall business of serving up success with a splash. Like I said, it includes everything, including merch.
00:05:18.570 --> 00:05:24.529 Bruce Cramer: And so that was our reason for moving, was that there's a huge market
00:05:24.530 --> 00:05:39.190 Bruce Cramer: awaiting for us on some of these other peripheral, services that they're going to be able to promote through our actual podcast. Now, I want to draw your attention, of course, you can click
00:05:39.190 --> 00:05:46.739 Bruce Cramer: The, the, the code here on the screen, or you can see our link below.
00:05:46.860 --> 00:05:55.229 Bruce Cramer: All you have to do to access us, if you're accessing, like, through YouTube, is just type in Serving Up Success with a splash.
00:05:55.380 --> 00:06:07.449 Bruce Cramer: And you'll see our channel, you know, moving forward, you'll just see our channel, and all of our episodes are there, all of the work we've done with New York.
00:06:07.450 --> 00:06:20.079 Bruce Cramer: City Talk Radio, I should say Talk Radio, New York City, is all out there. And so, it's a little bittersweet. Do you have anything to add, Nitesh?
00:06:20.080 --> 00:06:32.219 nawtej dosanjh: I want to extend my personal thanks, in particular Sam, absolutely, and talk radio, but to Jesse. Jesse, I really want to extend
00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:40.689 nawtej dosanjh: particularly my, my thanks, to you. It's been so much fun, you producing us, and…
00:06:40.840 --> 00:07:00.299 nawtej dosanjh: keeping us… making us laugh, in the middle of a show by sending a… sending a text. We're trying to keep a straight face, and you make us laugh. It's been so much fun. You've been so brilliant and so entertaining. Really, really, really appreciate, you, and the whole team!
00:07:00.330 --> 00:07:20.239 nawtej dosanjh: At, talk radio. But, you know, it… you know, as Bruce said, it's a bit of… it's… I don't think it's bad news, it… I think it's a little bit sad. We feel a bit sad, and I know they probably feel a bit sad, but melancholy, good word, Jesse, and thanks, thanks again for helping out there.
00:07:20.540 --> 00:07:39.259 nawtej dosanjh: But, it's good news too, right? You know, it means that, we're going to be having our own YouTube channel, and we're going to be doing the same things week in, week out. We're going to be talking about the same topics, serving up success with the Splash, life, career, business.
00:07:39.760 --> 00:07:54.700 nawtej dosanjh: that's what we do, and that's… and we're going to be doing it with the same good humor and fun that we've always done it. So that bit… that bit doesn't change, it's just on a different… different channel. It's just… goes straight to our YouTube channel.
00:07:54.700 --> 00:08:07.880 nawtej dosanjh: On serving up success with a splash, so… but Bruce, because this is our last show on serving up success, we thought we'd do something slightly different, right?
00:08:08.310 --> 00:08:17.099 Bruce Cramer: Absolutely. So, kind of what we have in store for you tonight, this evening, is we want to walk you through…
00:08:17.300 --> 00:08:19.980 Bruce Cramer: All 20 previous episodes.
00:08:19.980 --> 00:08:29.629 nawtej dosanjh: Oh, just hold on a second. We are not gonna be able to do… Everybody, don't listen to Bruce. No, don't listen to Bruce, listen to me. We're gonna try!
00:08:29.630 --> 00:08:50.529 nawtej dosanjh: and get through all 20 episodes, okay? But we might not make some of them. But if we do, great, but we might not make some of them. But, so, listen to me, I've got security at… I've got security at the door for Bruce, if he gets out of hand, because Angie's not here to keep him in hand, so I do have security guards at his front door.
00:08:50.710 --> 00:08:55.800 Bruce Cramer: And Jesse, yes, you are gonna get a free hoodie.
00:08:56.410 --> 00:08:59.160 Bruce Cramer: Alright, so…
00:08:59.160 --> 00:09:00.480 nawtej dosanjh: Kick us off, Bruce.
00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.330 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, so we gotta get going. Alright, so…
00:09:03.330 --> 00:09:03.790 nawtej dosanjh: What's doing, yeah.
00:09:03.790 --> 00:09:11.749 Bruce Cramer: In the very first episode, we talked about awareness, action, and accountability.
00:09:11.900 --> 00:09:27.939 Bruce Cramer: And really, those are the three pillars of lasting success. If everything you do in your life starts with awareness, and this could be personal, career, or business, where you go, where am I at, and where do I want to go?
00:09:28.050 --> 00:09:35.010 Bruce Cramer: Just get real clear as the current state, and what's your ideal future state.
00:09:35.330 --> 00:09:48.760 Bruce Cramer: Once you understand, and you've, you know, you've socialized this, you include others, but once you have that nailed, the second step is now you gotta take some sort of action.
00:09:48.950 --> 00:10:06.430 Bruce Cramer: And the reason, you know, when you do that awareness, you really want to understand that gap between current state and future. And once you get that gap, now you can start brainstorming. And this is where, if you're in business, you want to include other colleagues that you trust.
00:10:06.430 --> 00:10:21.660 Bruce Cramer: your mentors, advocates of yours, your team members, you know, that sort of thing. You want to take advantage of a few people getting together, brainstorming, okay, now that we clearly understand what the gap is.
00:10:21.700 --> 00:10:25.730 Bruce Cramer: What are some ideas as to how to close that gap?
00:10:26.030 --> 00:10:29.089 Bruce Cramer: And then you, you know, you select.
00:10:29.400 --> 00:10:41.530 Bruce Cramer: And then it gets into accountability. And once again, when we talk accountability, you want to enlist the help of others. We've shared in many episodes how I have
00:10:41.870 --> 00:10:55.209 Bruce Cramer: two people, actually three, that hold me accountable. One of them is sitting next to me on this podcast. But I also hired somebody for the sole purpose as I worked through
00:10:55.210 --> 00:11:08.339 Bruce Cramer: marketing and such, as to where I am, where I want to go, they stay all over me to make sure I'm completing the actions I said I was going to do.
00:11:08.340 --> 00:11:18.319 Bruce Cramer: And also, in your personal life. So this, again, can apply to a family. There might be some situation, here's where I'm at, might be a relationship with one of the kids.
00:11:18.350 --> 00:11:36.949 Bruce Cramer: And it might be, gosh, this is kind of where that relation… I would love someday to have this kind of relationship. Well, again, you can work with your spouse, significant other, whatever, as to how to close those. So, again, awareness, action, and accountability, one of the… one of the biggest keys
00:11:36.950 --> 00:11:41.990 Bruce Cramer: To building lasting success, yet very few people
00:11:41.990 --> 00:11:47.930 Bruce Cramer: take the time to really do what I just described. Anything else, Nitesh, that you would add?
00:11:48.170 --> 00:12:03.400 nawtej dosanjh: Well, I want to add two things. Firstly, Bruce, I'm going to cut you off. Because we're nearly through the first segment, and we've only hit one show, so I'm gonna cut you off if you…
00:12:03.400 --> 00:12:04.390 Bruce Cramer: That's okay, you…
00:12:04.390 --> 00:12:12.509 nawtej dosanjh: You come back with the second episode. But I'm gonna… look, I'm gonna say two things. The first is that…
00:12:12.870 --> 00:12:19.709 nawtej dosanjh: I think what I enjoyed about this show most of all was listening to you and Angie
00:12:20.060 --> 00:12:27.150 nawtej dosanjh: Be so, open and vulnerable and transparent with
00:12:27.270 --> 00:12:35.649 nawtej dosanjh: give reality checks. I just loved the show from the first minute, just because I was hearing you.
00:12:35.870 --> 00:12:47.130 nawtej dosanjh: talk about… you know, so it… I always think it's just a massive sign of confidence when people show that much awareness, and you and Angie both did, both did, so…
00:12:47.510 --> 00:12:55.719 nawtej dosanjh: kudos, kudos to both of you. And now, I think, for one of the very last times, I have to say, but maybe a couple more times.
00:12:56.170 --> 00:13:05.769 nawtej dosanjh: Jesse, take us to break, and then we'll speed up next time, because I'll make sure Bruce speeds up in the second segment. But for now, Angie, take us to break.
00:13:06.160 --> 00:13:08.189 Bruce Cramer: We only have 19 more to go!
00:15:25.420 --> 00:15:38.140 nawtej dosanjh: Welcome back, welcome back, everybody. So, first of all, Jesse, I'm sorry I called you Angie. How many times have I called you, Angie? I don't know, but all I can say is.
00:15:38.140 --> 00:15:57.580 nawtej dosanjh: just be grateful I didn't call you Bruce. That's all I can say. I'm so sorry, Jesse. I know you're Jesse, of course I do. Look, I'm gonna speed up now, and the shows I'm gonna cover, I'm gonna… Jesse's just sent a message. That's fair, nobody wants to be a Bruce.
00:15:57.580 --> 00:16:02.470 nawtej dosanjh: That's not true, we love Bruce. But we're… I'm going to talk about AI.
00:16:02.560 --> 00:16:14.690 nawtej dosanjh: It was the second show we did. I really enjoyed it, and it was the 17th show we did, which I equally enjoyed, and the 18th, which was, what do we do about it?
00:16:14.690 --> 00:16:33.500 nawtej dosanjh: And we're going to be talking about AI a lot more on our YouTube channel. And I think in these shows, what we were trying to do is, in the first show, in the second show, we were trying to introduce AI and really just define it. You know, we were saying that AI doesn't really
00:16:33.670 --> 00:16:42.389 nawtej dosanjh: exist. It's… it's not really intelligence, it's something else. It's artificial, for sure.
00:16:42.580 --> 00:16:58.380 nawtej dosanjh: it relies on a lot of data, large, large, large, data sets, and there's a lot of misunderstanding, about AI. But then we, in show 17, we went a bit deeper, and we had Dr. Isley.
00:16:58.500 --> 00:17:09.470 nawtej dosanjh: talk to us about that. Bruce, what were you… what were some of the key things? Can you remember what you got from… from that show? It was a brilliant show. I so enjoyed it.
00:17:09.790 --> 00:17:11.509 nawtej dosanjh: You're on mute, by the way, Bruce.
00:17:13.369 --> 00:17:21.619 Bruce Cramer: I gotta get used to this mute. You'd think on the 21st episode I'd know that. Alright, so real quick, that it's coming fast and furious.
00:17:21.779 --> 00:17:35.309 Bruce Cramer: that unlike any other transformation, you know, he talked about the industrial age, all that kind of stuff. This is on roids. So things are coming fast and furious. He did talk about…
00:17:35.309 --> 00:17:55.079 Bruce Cramer: how it's not only impacting entry-level positions, but also high-level positions. He also said that middle management kind of, you know, at this point in the AI journey, kind of have a target on their back. So he talked about the importance of new skills.
00:17:55.189 --> 00:18:15.079 Bruce Cramer: You know, to stay open, to stay curious, and really get into this continuous learning mode, and develop the skills that are gonna be needed. He also talked about, though, things AI can't do. Leadership, you know, leading with empathy.
00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:26.709 Bruce Cramer: and some of those sorts of things. So, you know, he made it clear, it's not all bad news. There's gonna be a whole ton of new opportunities. The last thing I took away is get in the game.
00:18:26.739 --> 00:18:28.849 Bruce Cramer: Start playing.
00:18:29.389 --> 00:18:35.819 Bruce Cramer: And, you know, so those were… those were some of the big, so I'll throw it back to you.
00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:48.730 nawtej dosanjh: And that… and that sort of led us, and it was fantastic having… having Dr. Isley, on the show, and that sort of got us into the next show we decided that we would do the…
00:18:48.730 --> 00:18:56.900 nawtej dosanjh: show immediately after, show 17. Well, how do you… how do you prepare? And I think Bruce has touched on it a little bit.
00:18:57.050 --> 00:19:04.599 nawtej dosanjh: Just to expand on that, I think my key takeaway from anything AI and in that show is that
00:19:04.830 --> 00:19:09.840 nawtej dosanjh: Don't get skilled, don't do the things that AI can do.
00:19:10.340 --> 00:19:19.250 nawtej dosanjh: Start doing things which AI can't do. Like, Bruce mentioned a couple of things. You know, do some creativity.
00:19:19.900 --> 00:19:22.640 nawtej dosanjh: Get involved in being creative.
00:19:23.140 --> 00:19:30.300 nawtej dosanjh: If you… if you… and if you… if that's a bit of a lift for you, if that's a bit of a struggle.
00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:38.689 nawtej dosanjh: Do a course, do a short course on what creativity means, and how you can be creative in any job.
00:19:38.850 --> 00:19:52.050 nawtej dosanjh: And Bruce mentioned empathy, absolutely. AI, AI is not going to be empathetic, to you. So, all the things that AI can do, steer clear of.
00:19:52.680 --> 00:20:00.680 nawtej dosanjh: Get involved in all the things that AI can't do, and get upskilled. And, of course,
00:20:00.820 --> 00:20:06.499 nawtej dosanjh: lifelong learning. It's always been important, but now it is…
00:20:06.740 --> 00:20:14.060 nawtej dosanjh: central. It's… it's crucial, it's fundamental. Bruce, you… you… you wanna… you wanna come in on…
00:20:14.060 --> 00:20:21.850 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, I think it… and I got this from you in that, I think that was episode 18, is that, think of it as your partner.
00:20:22.020 --> 00:20:36.369 Bruce Cramer: So, when you talk about skilling up and learning, actually leverage a simple, application like ChatGPT, or Claude, or Gemini, if you're into Google. Take the simple
00:20:36.370 --> 00:20:56.129 Bruce Cramer: applications that can actually direct you and provide some structure as to how you might approach developing the necessary skills, because it'll let you know. The other thing is to leverage things like, you know, like note-taking during these Zoom meetings. There's all kinds of simple AI apps that take all the notes.
00:20:56.130 --> 00:21:01.160 Bruce Cramer: Give you the action items. So start playing, and don't try to do everything.
00:21:01.280 --> 00:21:09.620 Bruce Cramer: You know, focus on one or two tools, leverage it, learn from it, but use it as a partner as to, okay, where do I go next?
00:21:10.570 --> 00:21:23.360 nawtej dosanjh: And I think the word I want to, in closing on this… these three shows, the word that… my favorite word, in terms of artificial intelligence is, augment. Augment yourself.
00:21:23.600 --> 00:21:31.920 nawtej dosanjh: Become… become a… create… create twins. Create 10 Bruces. Create 10 Angies.
00:21:32.280 --> 00:21:35.619 nawtej dosanjh: Create ways of working which
00:21:35.940 --> 00:21:46.320 nawtej dosanjh: AI doesn't become your master, it becomes you being augmented, and I think augmented is where I'd like to leave it, and then
00:21:46.320 --> 00:21:59.029 nawtej dosanjh: Bruce, I want to come back to you now and just say, okay, what was your fa- next favourite show? Past the AI, past the episode one, what was your favorite, favorite show of all?
00:21:59.030 --> 00:22:11.160 Bruce Cramer: Well, and again, just a real quick thing, we just covered episode 217 and 18, so if you want more detail, more meat, watch those episodes. Alright, my next one is a simple one.
00:22:11.350 --> 00:22:17.200 Bruce Cramer: It was, I believe, I gotta remember this, Episode 3, Dealing with Conversations.
00:22:17.620 --> 00:22:31.990 Bruce Cramer: I like the simple things, like awareness, action, accountability. As simple as that sound, it makes all the difference in the world for people that are experiencing. The next one is the gift of conversation. But people…
00:22:32.130 --> 00:22:51.009 Bruce Cramer: confused conversation as, well, you know, and I always use it like if you show up at a party or a social gathering, and you may not know many people, people think when you talk about the gift of a good conversation, is you have to kind of jump in and start talking. It's actually just the opposite.
00:22:51.100 --> 00:23:09.780 Bruce Cramer: It really, it really gets down to three things. You're gonna be nervous, and I'll give an example, really quick one, but you're gonna be a little nervous, but you know what undoes the nerves? Is curiosity. Sit back for a moment, scan the room. Is there anybody in that room that you think is somewhat interesting?
00:23:09.820 --> 00:23:13.679 Bruce Cramer: Or something about them gives off a really good vibe.
00:23:13.850 --> 00:23:33.260 Bruce Cramer: Well, go with that, because guess what? When you go up to that person, it's not about beginning to talk, you ask questions. The biggest secret to good conversations are people that are able to ask the questions and then shut up and listen. Now, I have a problem there, so I always.
00:23:33.260 --> 00:23:36.760 nawtej dosanjh: He showed me love. He saw me lovely.
00:23:36.760 --> 00:23:38.479 Bruce Cramer: People are impressed with people that…
00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:39.979 nawtej dosanjh: What does NATO with you?
00:23:39.980 --> 00:23:58.459 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, they do very little talking, they just ask questions, and then listen. And they love it! You'll be a hit! And that works in the work environment every bit as much. And so it's about curiosity, just asking questions based on that curiosity, and then listen!
00:23:58.790 --> 00:24:01.810 Bruce Cramer: And you'll be surprised how fast things take off.
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:05.960 Bruce Cramer: Natej, anything to add to that?
00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:15.569 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah, I'm gonna add a different show to it, actually. I'm gonna… I'm gonna… I'm gonna, attach, probably, other than the AI shows.
00:24:15.700 --> 00:24:26.669 nawtej dosanjh: my two favorite shows, which was episode 10, where we had, Mimi Young, Mimi Cook, and a presenter, I can't remember which one it was, I'm gonna look it up.
00:24:26.810 --> 00:24:33.200 nawtej dosanjh: Episode 6 with Danny Creed. Very, very different people.
00:24:33.500 --> 00:24:35.920 nawtej dosanjh: Amazing people.
00:24:36.040 --> 00:24:52.700 nawtej dosanjh: a great vibe, generous people, both of them so generous about others, and how much time, they give. With Mimi, it was all about aging as an art. You know, there was… she was still innovating.
00:24:52.830 --> 00:25:00.659 nawtej dosanjh: I don't know how old she was, because she looked like 50, but maybe she… was she in her 70s, Bruce? I don't know. Because she really looked like.
00:25:00.660 --> 00:25:02.449 Bruce Cramer: She's in her 80s, if I remember.
00:25:02.450 --> 00:25:02.950 nawtej dosanjh: I remember correctly.
00:25:02.950 --> 00:25:03.510 Bruce Cramer: chocolate.
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:11.710 nawtej dosanjh: Wha… Amazing. But I just loved that she was still innovating, coming up with new things to do.
00:25:12.500 --> 00:25:17.369 nawtej dosanjh: At… at this… Age. Whatever her age is.
00:25:17.600 --> 00:25:34.180 nawtej dosanjh: Because I really… I really couldn't fathom it that she was 17. And I really, really admired her, and I… she was inspirational to me. And I bring up Danny as well, because he was also super inspirational for different reasons.
00:25:34.180 --> 00:25:40.460 nawtej dosanjh: You know, he talked about sales, but he wasn't really talking about sales, he was talking about conversation.
00:25:40.780 --> 00:25:46.940 nawtej dosanjh: And making other people At the center of your attention.
00:25:47.290 --> 00:25:57.849 nawtej dosanjh: And… I've known Danny for about a year now, and I never tire of his conversation.
00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:16.910 nawtej dosanjh: I could talk to Danny every single day of the week, and I would be engaged and thrilled to speak to him. So, I'm sort of linking the conversation, episode 3, Creating Conversations, with Mimi and Danny.
00:26:16.910 --> 00:26:21.510 nawtej dosanjh: 6 and 10, because I just think they were so good.
00:26:21.850 --> 00:26:25.859 nawtej dosanjh: at those… creating conversations. They're…
00:26:25.980 --> 00:26:31.569 nawtej dosanjh: They're just masters at the art of conversation, but they don't even know it, they're just doing it naturally.
00:26:32.290 --> 00:26:39.339 Bruce Cramer: And I'm gonna tie another episode, but it's interesting, Nitesh, and I really appreciate the way you set this up.
00:26:39.610 --> 00:26:41.770 Bruce Cramer: Both of them were curious.
00:26:42.340 --> 00:26:46.530 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah. Both of them, in terms of your ability to sell.
00:26:46.820 --> 00:26:55.730 Bruce Cramer: or your ability to succeed, big part of it's likability. There was no… those two people are extremely likable.
00:26:55.730 --> 00:26:58.780 nawtej dosanjh: Hugely lockable. Hugely. Yeah.
00:26:58.940 --> 00:27:05.699 Bruce Cramer: They believe you have complete control If you're asking the questions.
00:27:06.210 --> 00:27:11.430 Bruce Cramer: So if you look at how they steered their careers, the other thing, they're both healthy.
00:27:11.660 --> 00:27:15.200 Bruce Cramer: Which leads into another,
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:15.910 nawtej dosanjh: episode.
00:27:15.910 --> 00:27:16.390 Bruce Cramer: Right.
00:27:16.390 --> 00:27:28.419 nawtej dosanjh: Bruce, hold on, before you go into that, you know, one thing that, thinking about both of them, the one key takeaway I had from both of them, and from the creating conversations.
00:27:28.580 --> 00:27:36.029 nawtej dosanjh: Both of them refuse to entertain Negative thoughts about anybody.
00:27:38.030 --> 00:27:48.119 nawtej dosanjh: Hugely purple. I just want to say that again. Both of them, neither of them, entertain, or they both refuse to entertain negative thoughts
00:27:48.790 --> 00:27:54.909 nawtej dosanjh: That is such a big learning. And look how fit and young and amazing that they look.
00:27:55.450 --> 00:27:57.550 nawtej dosanjh: Sorry, Bruce, I interrupted you.
00:27:57.550 --> 00:27:58.280 Bruce Cramer: Oh, no!
00:27:58.280 --> 00:27:59.369 nawtej dosanjh: So, my name?
00:27:59.370 --> 00:27:59.779 Bruce Cramer: I'm gonna.
00:27:59.780 --> 00:28:01.530 nawtej dosanjh: Can we get episode 9 in?
00:28:02.300 --> 00:28:06.389 nawtej dosanjh: No, no, do you want to… no, I think we've got enough time. You can do episode 9 before we go to break.
00:28:06.390 --> 00:28:17.889 Bruce Cramer: Well, actually, I was going through the growth in mindset, because what you just described, and I'm also… it demonstrates how all of our episodes are intertwined.
00:28:18.050 --> 00:28:30.929 Bruce Cramer: We really do build, and we build on the simple things, because it's the simple things that make the biggest difference in your life. But both of them had a growth mindset versus a fixed. What did I mean by that before we go to break?
00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:39.150 Bruce Cramer: None of them believe they've… they have ended in their growth of intelligence or their abilities.
00:28:39.180 --> 00:28:56.319 Bruce Cramer: They're still on the path of, I'm gonna become more intelligent, and I'm gonna grow additional capabilities or abilities. They treat their life as a continuous improvement loop, where, you know, the sky's the limit.
00:28:56.320 --> 00:29:07.249 Bruce Cramer: And Mimi, I mean, she's an artist, she's a health food expert. Danny, I mean, he coaches in prisons on death row, and he's helping them with goal setting.
00:29:07.250 --> 00:29:18.379 Bruce Cramer: I mean, he's so inspirational to people that he meets, not to mention all of the businesses he helps, but they all come from a growth mindset, where every day you can get better.
00:29:18.580 --> 00:29:20.439 Bruce Cramer: And with that, let's go to break.
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:25.670 nawtej dosanjh: We carry… yeah, let's carry on this subject straight after break. Jesse, take us away.
00:31:33.120 --> 00:31:39.439 Bruce Cramer: Alright, so, Thank you for still being here.
00:31:39.630 --> 00:31:51.090 Bruce Cramer: But I'm gonna pivot into, actually, Episode 9. So we just did Growth… I was looking here, because, man, we are covering territory. We did episode 14, Growth Mindset.
00:31:51.090 --> 00:32:00.459 Bruce Cramer: And we, of course, as Dr. Nitesh pointed out, we had done Episode 6, as well as… what was the other one?
00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:04.419 nawtej dosanjh: I don't think you need to worry about the episode numbers.
00:32:04.420 --> 00:32:05.530 Bruce Cramer: Well, just as a reference…
00:32:05.530 --> 00:32:06.950 nawtej dosanjh: Keep going. Yeah.
00:32:06.950 --> 00:32:14.520 Bruce Cramer: Alright, so, charting your life. That was episode 9. And again, our guests.
00:32:14.810 --> 00:32:21.070 Bruce Cramer: Our clients. This is something that's extremely important, that as you
00:32:21.280 --> 00:32:28.450 Bruce Cramer: grow and develop, gain more knowledge, gain more capabilities. It's important that you have balance.
00:32:28.590 --> 00:32:45.539 Bruce Cramer: So, we often talk about it, and this, diamond mapping is the tool you use, where at the top, on a scale of 1 to 10, you have financial. Then you have business, on a scale of 1 to the 10, to the right, and then straight down health.
00:32:45.670 --> 00:32:47.190 Bruce Cramer: And to the left.
00:32:47.290 --> 00:33:07.040 Bruce Cramer: you have family and relationships. And what they're… basically, the lesson from diamond mapping, it's absolutely critical that when you plot on that thing, that it shows up as a perfect diamond. That it doesn't matter if you're at a 2,
00:33:07.120 --> 00:33:18.570 Bruce Cramer: For financial, and you're at a 2 for business, and you're at a 2 in terms of your health, and you're at a 2 in terms of your family and relationships that you have.
00:33:18.660 --> 00:33:24.509 Bruce Cramer: That's a great position to be in. As you, you know, because you want to determine
00:33:24.510 --> 00:33:39.050 Bruce Cramer: Again, back to the awareness, what's your definition of a 1, and what's your definition as a 10? But on that journey of, say, let's pick business, you want to move from that 2 to a 10?
00:33:39.100 --> 00:33:54.169 Bruce Cramer: As you start to gravitate towards the 10, you want to make sure all the other accesses are coming up at the same rate. That if you go from a 2 to a 5, you want to make sure that happened with your health.
00:33:54.170 --> 00:34:02.390 Bruce Cramer: that happened with your relationships, and also with your financial goals. Because if you get out of sync.
00:34:02.800 --> 00:34:11.410 Bruce Cramer: It can come all tumbling down. I use an example where I was pretty much at a 9. One could argue at a 10.
00:34:11.570 --> 00:34:24.999 Bruce Cramer: and on 3 out of the 4, and the fourth one took me from a 10 all the way back down to 5s, and pretty much, almost destroyed me. So…
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:36.039 Bruce Cramer: If you want to hear that story, tune in. But you've got to have balance in life. If you get out of sync, you will not sustain your success.
00:34:37.060 --> 00:34:54.839 nawtej dosanjh: I think that's a really good point, Bruce, that, what might be… what might on the surface seem like success, you know, can… can… can come tumbling down. I think Angie's joining us, but I… I think we just… I just think we just carry on and…
00:34:54.840 --> 00:35:01.860 nawtej dosanjh: pretend she's… pretend she's not there. She's only going to join us for 20 minutes, the last 20 minutes of the show. Hey, Angie, how are you doing?
00:35:01.860 --> 00:35:02.780 Bruce Cramer: How you doing?
00:35:03.670 --> 00:35:10.039 Angie Snowball: Okay, sorry, I just rushed in so I could just hop on for a second and at least say hi.
00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:11.449 Bruce Cramer: Now, if we.
00:35:11.450 --> 00:35:26.259 nawtej dosanjh: because as you know, this is our last show, Angie, and before I carry… I've got a couple of things to say, following up on what Bruce just said, but do you… I'd love for you to just say some words about, you know.
00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:37.580 nawtej dosanjh: how much we've enjoyed it, and how much we're looking forward to moving to YouTube. You know, just please, thank you for… thank you for rushing back and joining us.
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:47.249 Angie Snowball: I know, I was… as the guys probably already told you, I was at another expo sharing our stuff. Our merch store is a hit, guys, by the way. People are very excited about that.
00:35:47.250 --> 00:36:10.209 Angie Snowball: So… but I… and I didn't think I'd make it, and I was like, no, I can make it the last 10 minutes, and I just didn't realize how many people were listening to us, and how many people we had to thank, and so I wanted to make sure I could pop on and tell everybody, thank you, thank you, thank you. This is so fun, and we're gonna continue to… to have fun. We'll be on YouTube now, it's… we're not going anywhere, we're just…
00:36:10.210 --> 00:36:23.850 Angie Snowball: doing it a different way, but everybody's been fantastic, talk radio's been fantastic, and I just wanted to be here to say thank you, and not goodbye, but Alfirzain, on YouTube. So, I'm really excited.
00:36:24.710 --> 00:36:25.509 Angie Snowball: a lot of fun.
00:36:25.780 --> 00:36:47.789 nawtej dosanjh: Well, I hope you're going to enjoy the rest of the… the rest of the interaction we have. We're just talking about… I'm going to cut Bruce off, because he was talking too much. I'm going to stop him, I'm going to carry on talking, I'm going to carry on rambling so that… so that Bruce can't talk… talk. I'm joking, Bruce. But I want to make this point, you see, because you're talking about growth mindset, okay, and…
00:36:47.790 --> 00:36:53.450 nawtej dosanjh: I just love that you shared. Again, you shared that story, that personal story.
00:36:53.700 --> 00:37:08.249 nawtej dosanjh: about how you were very high-scored in most of your life, but there was an element of your life, your family, where you were letting yourself down. But you were accountable.
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:17.370 nawtej dosanjh: And you had a growth mindset. You had some awareness, and you were honest with yourself, and you weren't arrogant, you were vulnerable. So…
00:37:17.640 --> 00:37:31.899 nawtej dosanjh: just wanted to tie in several of the things we've been seeing. I think I just tied in about 5 shows that we were talking about. You really had that growth mindset, and it… you know, you don't have a growth mindset without having some awareness
00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:39.699 nawtej dosanjh: And you don't have awareness without some deliberate self-reflection, which takes some time.
00:37:39.700 --> 00:37:44.299 nawtej dosanjh: Because we can all fool ourselves that we're something that we're not.
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.489 nawtej dosanjh: And Bruce, I just want to commend you.
00:37:46.720 --> 00:37:54.969 nawtej dosanjh: which is why I wanted you to shut up. I just wanted to commend you, again, for just all that vulnerability and the stories of the heart that you told everyone.
00:37:54.970 --> 00:38:00.739 Angie Snowball: Do you guys play nice when I'm on here, or are you always like this? Do you run here? Do you, like, referee?
00:38:00.940 --> 00:38:01.480 Bruce Cramer: Oh, no.
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.109 Bruce Cramer: Well, it's kind of like Big Sister is gone.
00:38:05.110 --> 00:38:17.629 nawtej dosanjh: You know something, I've got a question, I've got a question. No, no, both of you, listen, I've got another question, because it's a tough question. I think it's a tough question. What was your least favorite show?
00:38:17.740 --> 00:38:28.190 nawtej dosanjh: and why. And Angie, because you've just joined us, why don't you take that first? Least favourite show and why? Doesn't mean you didn't like it, but what was your least favourite show, and why?
00:38:28.190 --> 00:38:34.209 Angie Snowball: Man, I gotta even really, truly do Bruce this time so I can pull up the list. Like, I don't… I'm not.
00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:40.629 nawtej dosanjh: Okay, okay, Bruce, you go first while Angie pulls up the list and familiarises herself.
00:38:40.630 --> 00:38:53.979 Bruce Cramer: I'm gonna mention another one of our episodes, because you keep saying it, Nateja, in your verbiage, you talk about the time, the time. A big part of this, you know, the simple things we've introduced on this show to date.
00:38:54.130 --> 00:38:55.480 Bruce Cramer: Time management.
00:38:55.860 --> 00:39:06.700 Bruce Cramer: Everything we've been discussing, take a look at your calendar, and is it… is it aiding and abetting in you moving from where you are and where you want to go?
00:39:06.830 --> 00:39:14.349 Bruce Cramer: Is it… is it reflective of a balanced life? Not one-dimensional, all business.
00:39:14.470 --> 00:39:18.210 Bruce Cramer: You know, take a look at your calendar.
00:39:18.460 --> 00:39:21.149 Bruce Cramer: And then also, you know, priorities.
00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:37.600 nawtej dosanjh: One second, great points, great points, but which is your least favorite show, please? I really want to know. I really want both of you to know. I'm gonna… I'm gonna ask myself the same question, too. So, you know, least favorite show, and why?
00:39:43.830 --> 00:39:46.430 Angie Snowball: What was the one we just…
00:39:46.610 --> 00:39:49.700 Angie Snowball: We just had… was it How to Stand Out in the Crown?
00:39:49.930 --> 00:39:53.030 Angie Snowball: Oh, it was, like, one of the more recent ones, and it was…
00:39:53.030 --> 00:39:53.760 nawtej dosanjh: It was a…
00:39:54.580 --> 00:40:00.140 Angie Snowball: like us, it was, I always, like us, I think we're fabulous, very fabulous.
00:40:00.140 --> 00:40:03.500 Bruce Cramer: Whether it's the finish strong.
00:40:03.910 --> 00:40:04.709 Angie Snowball: Was that the one?
00:40:04.740 --> 00:40:06.060 nawtej dosanjh: Q, Chris, that's the last…
00:40:06.300 --> 00:40:22.439 Angie Snowball: For some reason, our, our energy was different. Like, I don't know, we usually click and banter off each other quickly without thinking, because, like, nothing's scripted. Well, it is, we don't follow it, but, you know, so… but something about that episode, and it just went to show…
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:36.410 Angie Snowball: how often the rest of them are. Do you know what I mean? Because, like, we don't think about it, and they go, and… I mean, maybe one of us was tired, I don't even know what it was, but I remember ending that show thinking, it wasn't bad, I wasn't mad at it, but I felt like
00:40:36.410 --> 00:40:46.989 Angie Snowball: something wasn't the same for us, and it was the first time. And then, right again, the very next one, I thought was fine. But there was something like the energy, because I think that's the magic of our show, is our energy.
00:40:46.990 --> 00:40:49.200 Bruce Cramer: Is that how to prepare for AI?
00:40:49.420 --> 00:40:51.710 nawtej dosanjh: No, no, it was how to stand out in a crowd.
00:40:51.710 --> 00:40:52.470 Bruce Cramer: Oh, okay.
00:40:52.470 --> 00:41:12.119 nawtej dosanjh: So, it's interesting, when I asked that question of both of you, I didn't know what my answer would be, but now I do. It was episode 19, too. So, I just felt I… I was a bit off. I just didn't feel that I was that good, I'll be honest, I just didn't feel I was…
00:41:12.120 --> 00:41:13.589 Angie Snowball: I don't know why it was, I didn't like that.
00:41:14.020 --> 00:41:14.460 Angie Snowball: me.
00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:22.159 nawtej dosanjh: I thought you two were great, but I just thought I wasn't that good. I just thought I was a bit boring, and, you know, why didn't I just shut up a bit more, and…
00:41:22.160 --> 00:41:24.790 Angie Snowball: Well, then every show would be a bummer.
00:41:24.790 --> 00:41:26.519 Bruce Cramer: With me.
00:41:26.520 --> 00:41:29.829 nawtej dosanjh: Okay, so Bruce, before we go to break, you've got to come up with one.
00:41:29.830 --> 00:41:34.260 Bruce Cramer: Oh, I know what it is. I was gonna answer it, but you two don't.
00:41:34.260 --> 00:41:34.660 nawtej dosanjh: Oh, sure.
00:41:34.660 --> 00:41:35.220 Bruce Cramer: Oh.
00:41:35.390 --> 00:41:36.259 Angie Snowball: Oh, that's true.
00:41:37.110 --> 00:41:37.989 Angie Snowball: He got us.
00:41:37.990 --> 00:41:50.790 Bruce Cramer: How to Stop Procrastinating. And the reason why it's my least favorite show is some of the things we talked about that contribute is that feeling of overwhelmed.
00:41:50.860 --> 00:41:58.249 Bruce Cramer: or you just might have some doubts? You know, we talked about what all leads to procrastination.
00:41:58.650 --> 00:42:02.159 Bruce Cramer: And one of them was this idea of perfectionism.
00:42:02.610 --> 00:42:17.680 Bruce Cramer: Which, you guys know I have a bit of an issue with. And the reason why I didn't like it is I have to admit, and if, you know, and I've got clients that watch this show, so they're like, damn, I pay him all that money, and he preaches to me, and he's as guilty as I am.
00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:19.390 Angie Snowball: And, and it is true!
00:42:19.390 --> 00:42:30.469 Bruce Cramer: on some items, I can get hung up on perfection to the point, and like Angie says, and she said in that episode, you're leaving money on the table.
00:42:30.750 --> 00:42:40.490 Bruce Cramer: because of the fact that you just didn't get start and learn as you go, and be comfortable with learning as you go, like I preach to everybody that I work with,
00:42:40.830 --> 00:42:47.649 Bruce Cramer: you actually miss out on opportunities. And to this day, I have to guard against it. So I hate that.
00:42:48.170 --> 00:42:51.050 Angie Snowball: He hates it because we were right, that's what I heard.
00:42:51.800 --> 00:43:02.219 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah. Damn it. Yeah, Angie and I were right. Yeah, I'm gonna go with that. Angie and I were right. In fact, why don't we just say that is our new tagline? Angie and Rotes are right.
00:43:02.460 --> 00:43:05.350 Angie Snowball: That's a good one. But we gotta go to break. We gotta go to.
00:43:05.350 --> 00:43:07.799 nawtej dosanjh: Have we got to get a break? I'm just having some fun, though.
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.500 Bruce Cramer: Alright.
00:43:09.500 --> 00:43:11.760 Angie Snowball: Take us away.
00:44:58.330 --> 00:45:07.749 Bruce Cramer: So, just real quick, Angie, you scared me. I was sharing that slide on the commercial, and all of a sudden it wouldn't share, because you beat me to it.
00:45:08.100 --> 00:45:10.239 Angie Snowball: I wasn't sure if you were doing it or not.
00:45:10.240 --> 00:45:10.920 Bruce Cramer: Oh, yeah.
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:11.840 Angie Snowball: Take the last one.
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:14.120 nawtej dosanjh: He was doing it, he was doing it. Should've answered it before.
00:45:14.120 --> 00:45:15.090 Angie Snowball: Okay, good.
00:45:15.090 --> 00:45:20.929 nawtej dosanjh: Okay, guys, guys, I'm going to start the segment because I want to know. I've got a question for you.
00:45:21.140 --> 00:45:22.090 Bruce Cramer: Where are your cocktails?
00:45:22.090 --> 00:45:24.329 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah, we… We… We are just…
00:45:24.330 --> 00:45:24.719 Angie Snowball: It is.
00:45:24.720 --> 00:45:41.659 nawtej dosanjh: In the UK, it's midnight, Bruce, so I gotta… and I've got to get up in 6 hours, so… you know, the cocktail isn't working for me this evening. But, I have a question. So, what is it, rather than going through the rest of the shows one by one, I want to know what you two
00:45:43.010 --> 00:45:50.260 nawtej dosanjh: love about and don't love about working together? What do you love about our show? What don't you love about our show?
00:45:51.320 --> 00:46:03.740 Angie Snowball: Okay, that's easy for me. What I love is I feel like I get as educated as our listeners every week. Listening to you two, there's not been a single time I walked away without
00:46:03.910 --> 00:46:14.399 Angie Snowball: I get notes. Like, I make notes every time of something I want to ask you more about, or something I learned, and sometimes it's just a different way of looking at something I already knew.
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:33.139 Angie Snowball: But I learn something new every time. And you're fun. Like, I don't get bored. This hour flies by, I enjoy… even, like, our prep meetings where we get together, I just enjoy that. It's one of the few things on my calendar, I'm like, yay, it's time! You know, I just really enjoy working with you two, and I just…
00:46:33.140 --> 00:46:44.529 Angie Snowball: They always say, if you want to be better, surround yourself with brilliance. And I feel like that's what I've done with you two guys, and I have just lucked out so much, and I learn new stuff all the time, I just… I love it.
00:46:46.380 --> 00:46:51.150 nawtej dosanjh: We love you, Angie. That's so nice of you to say that. That's very nice. Thank you, thank you.
00:46:51.260 --> 00:46:51.950 Angie Snowball: Amazing.
00:46:52.500 --> 00:46:54.849 nawtej dosanjh: Bruce, how about you? What do you love about…
00:46:54.940 --> 00:46:56.530 Bruce Cramer: You go first.
00:46:56.740 --> 00:46:59.359 nawtej dosanjh: Do you want me to go first? Yeah.
00:46:59.710 --> 00:47:13.159 nawtej dosanjh: Now, I might be able to go first. You know what I love about it? I love lots of things, I'm gonna list a few things, but the top thing I love so much is that we don't take ourselves too seriously.
00:47:14.630 --> 00:47:27.019 nawtej dosanjh: We just don't. And I'm with Angie, I learn a lot from you two every week. I've learned so much from Bruce about being vulnerable in a big corporate setting.
00:47:27.050 --> 00:47:38.799 nawtej dosanjh: And gee, I've just learned, you know, you just put yourself down sometimes. I've learned so many, so… insights from you, one a week, minimum.
00:47:38.810 --> 00:47:46.010 nawtej dosanjh: You know, I'll get something fantastic, from you every show. But the main… the really the main thing is.
00:47:46.010 --> 00:48:07.859 nawtej dosanjh: We don't take ourselves very seriously. We even chuckle when we call ourselves the strategy doctor, the corporate cockroach, or the renaissance. We chuckle, because we're not taking ourselves too seriously. You know, we're just… we… I don't think we… we didn't really strategize about what we would do on the show. We just said, let's do a show.
00:48:07.860 --> 00:48:13.080 nawtej dosanjh: See how it happens, and by the third, second or third show, we were in a groove.
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:21.579 nawtej dosanjh: And we're obviously… we're very different people, right? Our personality is very different, but we have… I think we have similar values.
00:48:21.870 --> 00:48:24.300 nawtej dosanjh: And, I just…
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:35.879 nawtej dosanjh: really get… get a kick out of being on the show. It's 11 o'clock, it's midnight by the time we're finished, and I don't get to sleep for another hour afterwards, and I just really love
00:48:36.110 --> 00:48:45.249 nawtej dosanjh: the fact that we don't take ourselves seriously. It's magical. It's really magical. So thank you, both of you, for… for making that possible.
00:48:46.110 --> 00:48:51.759 Angie Snowball: Oh, thank you, and you're right, that's what makes us different. We're a business podcast that doesn't suck. It's fun.
00:48:52.020 --> 00:48:54.670 nawtej dosanjh: You know, like, that's really what it is.
00:48:54.670 --> 00:48:55.380 Angie Snowball: in our tagline.
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.379 Angie Snowball: I've been on a t-shirt, so…
00:48:58.380 --> 00:49:00.369 nawtej dosanjh: That's another way of putting it.
00:49:01.720 --> 00:49:02.800 Bruce Cramer: Wow!
00:49:03.190 --> 00:49:04.960 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah, okay, Bruce.
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:14.019 Bruce Cramer: You know, so first of all, we complement one another, so people don't see all of the stuff we've got going on behind the scenes.
00:49:14.050 --> 00:49:26.019 Bruce Cramer: And that is something that, as we move forward, you're gonna learn more about us individually, how we work as a team, on the products and services we offer, in addition to the merch.
00:49:26.020 --> 00:49:36.019 Bruce Cramer: But one of the things that struck me, and we have to have Jack and Noelle, some of our significant others, because Noelle weighed in heavily
00:49:36.020 --> 00:49:55.669 Bruce Cramer: Because as I would talk to different people, I'd say, do you think they'd be good with me on a podcast? And that's more of caution for the person joining me, because as you guys know, I'm a little out there. And she… she actually picked. She goes, oh my god. Now, let me be real specific.
00:49:56.340 --> 00:49:59.719 Bruce Cramer: I have a whole new… you know, I struggle.
00:50:00.340 --> 00:50:04.290 Bruce Cramer: With dominating conversations, if nobody's noticed.
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:09.840 Bruce Cramer: I've learned from Natej what really good questioning is.
00:50:09.950 --> 00:50:12.700 Bruce Cramer: I mean, he changed the whole format.
00:50:13.600 --> 00:50:15.640 Bruce Cramer: of questioning.
00:50:16.250 --> 00:50:33.359 Bruce Cramer: And the show, he was a big driver, and I thought, God, this is as powerful as everything I say it is, but I get to see it in real time every week, and that's immense… that's been very helpful in my practice.
00:50:33.510 --> 00:50:50.540 Bruce Cramer: And Angie! My god, if one more person says, we talk, and then she gives us what it really means. She's very relatable. So now, I've learned in how I communicate, again, with my clients.
00:50:51.120 --> 00:51:01.150 Bruce Cramer: don't get lofty, don't get extensive, just distill it down to the bare… there's nobody better than Angie. And so, you know, she is.
00:51:01.150 --> 00:51:02.410 Angie Snowball: It's frickin.
00:51:02.410 --> 00:51:20.589 Bruce Cramer: and relatable. And so, I'm gonna get real specific, because I agreed with what everybody said, and we do have a good time together. Someday we'll actually have to play the live video of us when we're together. We like to sing. I'm not saying we're good at it, but we do like to sing.
00:51:20.590 --> 00:51:36.150 Bruce Cramer: But, but, you know, the least favorite thing is, you know, like now, we're in this situation where we're walking away from Talk Radio New York City. We are not saying goodbye, we're extending our journey, because, my God.
00:51:36.180 --> 00:51:51.609 Bruce Cramer: the, you know, the help we received from Jesse is immense. I mean, I was so nervous when we first started, and then she'd put these little jokes in here, like, shut up, and… did you actually say that? And it would just bust me up, and I would relax.
00:51:51.690 --> 00:52:02.790 Bruce Cramer: And so there's that side of it, that as we go through this journey, the three of us, you know, again, we have that growth mindset. We want to keep getting better, and we've got a long way to go.
00:52:02.790 --> 00:52:13.949 Bruce Cramer: And that sort of thing. But, you know, there's always those goodbyes in all of that along your journey. Now, that doesn't mean you disconnect, it just means…
00:52:13.950 --> 00:52:21.039 Bruce Cramer: this format, this show. The other thing that I didn't like so much is that
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:40.570 Bruce Cramer: time. I think we're getting better at it, but some of our, you know, we… you know, we're gonna have to figure out how to string, you know, like, we've got more than 30 episodes in the works with AI. You know, take any one of our subjects, and we can go on forever.
00:52:40.570 --> 00:52:44.560 Bruce Cramer: And so I feel like, you know, that's not something we've done
00:52:44.830 --> 00:52:53.980 Bruce Cramer: me personally, you know, that drives me nuts, because I want to get it all out there. And so, in this format, you only have so much time.
00:52:54.580 --> 00:52:57.690 nawtej dosanjh: We're speaking of time, we're talking of time.
00:52:57.690 --> 00:53:00.169 Bruce Cramer: And I get to drink during the show, and as you know…
00:53:00.170 --> 00:53:15.530 Angie Snowball: And it's funny, we had a comment, we had a comment from Art Proff, who comes after us, and he said the same thing. It was a pleasure to follow your show, of course, especially since they're drinking. I mean, that is the bonus, so stay on, listen to Art's show, he's gonna be awesome, too.
00:53:15.970 --> 00:53:20.240 nawtej dosanjh: So, so… We've only got a minute and a half left.
00:53:20.340 --> 00:53:30.429 nawtej dosanjh: What one final thing you want to say to talk radio and the audience? One final thing from each of you. And Bruce, I'm keeping you to 20 seconds tops.
00:53:31.710 --> 00:53:43.490 Bruce Cramer: Thank you so much, it's because of you we get this next opportunity. Thank you, thank you so much for viewing. Jesse, Sam, thank you for teaching us. Thank you for supporting us.
00:53:44.190 --> 00:54:07.159 Angie Snowball: Yeah, I'd say the same thing, and I'd also say thank you to all the people who were listening and gave us, like, honest feedback, and… and I would also say, please keep doing that. Like, so it's not goodbye, it's a see you later, in a different way. And I would love more feedback about what you want to hear, what things, what episodes were most interesting to you, so as people stay with us, I'd love to hear more of that, so we can cater to you.
00:54:08.340 --> 00:54:10.840 Angie Snowball: Nitesh, your turn. Wrap us up with yours.
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:22.209 nawtej dosanjh: And finally, I do want to… I know you've said it, I do want to say thank Sam and Jesse in particular, and I want to thank everybody who's listening in to us. I really do.
00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:36.129 nawtej dosanjh: because, honestly, it surprised me, and I know it surprised you two as well, how many, how many people have been listening in to us. But I do want to… I just… I want to come back to you two. It's a real pleasure
00:54:36.330 --> 00:54:49.170 nawtej dosanjh: working with you two, and not taking ourselves too seriously, having a good time, but saying some really valuable things, and learning from each other. So, thank you to you two as well.
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:59.250 nawtej dosanjh: And I think with that, We say goodbye to talk radio, but hello to YouTube next week.
00:55:00.060 --> 00:55:00.860 Angie Snowball: Yes.
00:55:01.610 --> 00:55:04.690 Angie Snowball: I know, that's so sad. Thank you, thank you, everybody!
00:55:05.380 --> 00:55:05.880 nawtej dosanjh: Thank you.
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:06.660 Bruce Cramer: Good night!
00:55:06.660 --> 00:55:07.210 Angie Snowball: Can you…
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