In. 2014 Elizabeth McPherson experienced a significant change where she chose to focus on personal development and well-being, including an exploration of spirituality. She is currently writing a book and supports the development toward physical and mental health.
Through the art of "decluttering" she incorporates her spiritual practices into daily life, guiding her clients from chaos to calm. The "art" of decluttering shifts their energy, encouraging clients to love themselves and their home.
Beth will share her story, her journey, the role of spirituality in her life.
She will discuss how she got into decluttering; what is meant by
"The Lifestyle Concept" and describe the type of clients she attracts.
Beth shares that with decluttering the energy shifts in the client's home. Clients become more aware and self-loving. I will want to hear more about these changes!
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Linda Marsanico opens this episode of The A Train to Sedona by sharing her memoir A Train to Sedona, which explores her own journey into love and compassion, and she offers listeners a free “Cheat Sheet for High Vibration Living” to support mindful energy practices. She introduces her guest, Elizabeth McPherson, whose life path has evolved from careers in media and skincare to founding The Lifestyle Concept, a spiritually rooted organizing and decluttering practice designed to guide clients from chaos to calm. Elizabeth reflects on her lifelong connection to tidiness, her passion for dance as a form of energetic expression, and her awakening into spirituality, which deepened through books like The Secret and Many Lives, Many Masters, leading her to embrace love as the guiding force in both her life and her work.
Beth McPherson shares how her path into professional decluttering began with deeply personal experiences—first helping her grieving mother transform after downsizing, and then supporting a friend whose home needed loving attention during a life transition. She explains how decluttering is far more than organizing possessions; it is about shifting stagnant energy, releasing attachment, and creating space for vitality, peace, and new beginnings. For Beth, this practice has become part of a larger spiritual movement, reflecting society’s awakening to the truth that joy and freedom come not from accumulating, but from aligning with love, simplicity, and the soul’s inner light.
Beth McPherson explains how her business, The Lifestyle Concept, was born from her love of simplicity and eventually transformed into a practice centered on tender loving care, guiding people to let go of what no longer serves them. She shares that decluttering is never just about “stuff,” but about releasing emotional weight, past traumas, and limiting attachments so that clients can create space for healing, clarity, and authentic self-love. For Beth, the process is both spiritual and practical—cleaning a home becomes cleaning the mind and heart, opening the path for gratitude, affirmations, and conscious co-creation with the Divine.
In this closing segment, Beth McPherson describes the wide range of clients she serves—from busy professionals to families overwhelmed by inherited possessions, and even those navigating illness or memory challenges—each seeking relief from the weight of clutter. She emphasizes that clutter often stems from trauma, neurodiversity, or emotional attachment, and that her role is to bring loving energy, hope, and gentle structure so clients can release what no longer serves them. Beth shares how small wins build confidence and shift energy, reminding us that decluttering is not just practical but deeply spiritual, opening space for clarity, healing, and a more love-centered life.
00:00:54.080 --> 00:01:00.829 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone. Welcome to the A Train to Sedona broadcast. I'm Linda Marzanico.
00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:06.830 Linda Marsanico: The A Train to Sedona is also the name of a memoir I wrote.
00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:09.660 Linda Marsanico: About my journey to love and compassion.
00:01:10.090 --> 00:01:11.329 Linda Marsanico: I wrote it.
00:01:11.580 --> 00:01:17.849 Linda Marsanico: To share my failures, my successes, so that my journey would inspire yours.
00:01:18.860 --> 00:01:31.589 Linda Marsanico: You can purchase a signed copy on my website at lyndamarsanico.com on Buy the Book page. You can get a regular copy from Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Walmart, and in bookstores.
00:01:32.810 --> 00:01:39.229 Linda Marsanico: I have a free gift for you. I call it the Cheat Sheet for High Vibration Living.
00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:48.230 Linda Marsanico: 7 exercises designed to keep your energy in the moment and vibrant. I'm going to highlight the breath today.
00:01:48.830 --> 00:01:57.680 Linda Marsanico: We breathe in oxygen and let go of carbon dioxide. When we exhale, we help to maintain pH levels in the blood.
00:01:57.890 --> 00:02:10.819 Linda Marsanico: When we breathe deeply and rhythmically, we engage the parasympathetic nervous system to relax the sympathetic nervous system, thereby reducing stress, lowering blood pressure.
00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:12.100 Linda Marsanico: And the heartbeat.
00:02:13.250 --> 00:02:21.950 Linda Marsanico: You can download a free copy of the Cheat Sheet for High Vibration Living on my website at lindamarsemico.com.
00:02:22.990 --> 00:02:30.239 Linda Marsanico: I have two disclaimers. One is that this broadcast does not establish a professional relationship.
00:02:30.540 --> 00:02:40.159 Linda Marsanico: And two, that this broadcast, the opinions on this broadcast, don't necessarily represent talkradio.New York City.
00:02:41.430 --> 00:02:45.229 Linda Marsanico: Today, my guest is Elizabeth McPherson.
00:02:45.910 --> 00:02:51.019 Linda Marsanico: Elizabeth McPherson, originally from Cornwall, In England.
00:02:51.260 --> 00:02:57.690 Linda Marsanico: Started her career as a personal assistant and moved to London at age 24.
00:02:57.980 --> 00:03:07.339 Linda Marsanico: She later worked in television and music before transitioning into the skincare industry alongside her husband, collaborating with L'Oreal.
00:03:08.040 --> 00:03:19.899 Linda Marsanico: In 2014, she underwent a significant change, choosing to focus on personal development and well-being, which included an exploration of spirituality.
00:03:20.330 --> 00:03:36.289 Linda Marsanico: In 2019, she founded The Lifestyle Concept, a professional organizing and decluttering business that assists clients in managing their possessions and establishing organized living spaces.
00:03:36.870 --> 00:03:42.759 Linda Marsanico: Beth is currently writing a book and supports the maintenance of both physical and mental health.
00:03:43.190 --> 00:03:51.420 Linda Marsanico: She incorporates her spiritual practice into her daily routine, guiding her clients from chaos, to calm.
00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.499 Linda Marsanico: Through the energy-shifting art.
00:03:54.660 --> 00:03:55.890 Linda Marsanico: of decluttering.
00:03:56.010 --> 00:04:01.009 Linda Marsanico: As Beth says, it's all about loving yourself and loving your home.
00:04:02.500 --> 00:04:08.469 Linda Marsanico: Beth enjoys socializing, fitness activities, dancing, which is wonderful.
00:04:08.620 --> 00:04:11.960 Linda Marsanico: All of which light her up from the inside out.
00:04:12.230 --> 00:04:14.120 Linda Marsanico: Welcome to the show, Beth.
00:04:14.850 --> 00:04:17.020 Beth: Thank you, Linda. I'm delighted to be here.
00:04:19.190 --> 00:04:24.520 Linda Marsanico: I want to ask you, what do you Influences from the past.
00:04:24.850 --> 00:04:27.279 Linda Marsanico: Bring you to where you are today.
00:04:28.550 --> 00:04:32.710 Beth: Yeah, that's a great question. As a young…
00:04:32.870 --> 00:04:38.520 Beth: lady, long woman, I loved tidying and sorting my room. I think it just…
00:04:38.760 --> 00:04:42.409 Beth: I think I always say to friends, I think I've just got the tidy jean, you know?
00:04:43.200 --> 00:04:47.310 Beth: But I always found it very calming. …
00:04:47.570 --> 00:05:00.290 Beth: it just felt like a good thing to do, so I was always kind of going in my room and sorting through my clothes, and letting go of anything, you know, if it was a broken pencil, it would go, you know, and…
00:05:00.550 --> 00:05:08.259 Beth: when I'd done that, and I did it most Saturday mornings, I just felt so calm,
00:05:08.570 --> 00:05:09.710 Beth: It was like…
00:05:10.290 --> 00:05:20.259 Beth: Well, it is kind of just a gift, isn't it, to instinctively know that something like that just makes you where things are in order, but everything feels in its place.
00:05:20.260 --> 00:05:37.640 Beth: And I could find everything. I just instinctively knew it was good. I also used to think, well, now I've done this, now I can do the fun stuff. So I'd be drawing and writing, you know, writing stories and things I want to do, and then, of course, I go out and play.
00:05:38.030 --> 00:05:47.740 Beth: But I felt like I'd cleared the decks, and everything was in order. It's just as simple as that, really. So I think it was a natural transition to where I am now.
00:05:48.470 --> 00:05:54.249 Linda Marsanico: And then you went out to do fun. You knew how to do that, which is a gift, really.
00:05:54.250 --> 00:05:58.009 Beth: Yeah. It's like… felt like it was clearing my brain space for the…
00:05:58.620 --> 00:06:07.810 Beth: I'm still a bit like it now, I just… when I know everything's in order, then I can just go and do stuff, you know? I think a lot of my clients are like that, and…
00:06:07.950 --> 00:06:11.589 Beth: … Yeah, it was, it was…
00:06:11.960 --> 00:06:21.130 Beth: I remember now, I remember I have such vivid, vivid recollections, going through my clothes, sometimes going into my mum's bedroom, she didn't know this, and…
00:06:21.130 --> 00:06:37.289 Beth: find some of her faux fur jackets and her really pointy winkle-picker shoes, and I'd be walking up and down the hallway in those. But that was the fun part, right? So I'd be, like, organizing the wardrobe and then nipping out and getting some stuff to wear, you know? So, yeah, lovely.
00:06:37.290 --> 00:06:41.950 Linda Marsanico: I remember putting my mother's shoes on as well, going into her closet, it was…
00:06:43.420 --> 00:06:50.400 Linda Marsanico: lovely, just, being close to her and to her things. She had quite a style.
00:06:51.630 --> 00:06:53.700 Linda Marsanico: So when did you start dancing?
00:06:55.920 --> 00:07:00.680 Beth: from when I was… I've got pictures of me as 6 years old dancing.
00:07:00.770 --> 00:07:02.000 Linda Marsanico: ….
00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:19.299 Beth: But I think I really discovered it, again, in my bedroom. There's a radio station, I don't know if it still goes, called Radio Luxembourg, and … I'd always liked my music, and I grew up with my parents, who were very much like Ella Fitzgerald, The Beatles, Herb Alpert, and I really loved all that.
00:07:19.400 --> 00:07:28.420 Beth: But I felt like something was missing for me. And then I'll never forget it, one night, I put on Radio Luxembourg, and I had this little transistor.
00:07:28.730 --> 00:07:34.890 Beth: And it was all crackly, and I remember I was kind of going like this and trying to listen, and suddenly.
00:07:35.180 --> 00:07:37.759 Beth: Radio Luxembourg, playing disco.
00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:38.690 Linda Marsanico: Oh.
00:07:38.690 --> 00:07:39.440 Beth: the cycle.
00:07:39.870 --> 00:07:43.620 Beth: Donna Summer, Rogers, Chic.
00:07:44.190 --> 00:07:46.519 Beth: All those amazing bands.
00:07:46.990 --> 00:07:52.660 Beth: And I literally started dancing in my bedroom. I'd never heard any music like it, you know, it was so…
00:07:52.920 --> 00:08:09.039 Beth: it was so inspi… literally, like, as its music still does, lights me up from the inside, really. So I'm a dis… you know, I don't… I'm not a, you know, I don't do ballroom or anything like that, but I always say I'm a bit of a freestyler, but I can't not dance, you know, if I hear a good tune.
00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:15.850 Beth: I can't not tap my feet, I can't not dance. It's like, if you put me in a nightclub, and…
00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:19.600 Beth: people stand around and they're not dancing. I'm literally like, what is wrong with you?
00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:33.569 Beth: Because that feeling you feel, you know, so often I think a lot of people don't feel entirely free, but with dancing, for me, I don't even care what I look like, because I just go for it.
00:08:34.970 --> 00:08:37.830 Beth: You know, and that's the thing, you just feel…
00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.529 Beth: Like, you're glowing on the inside, you know?
00:08:40.539 --> 00:08:57.239 Linda Marsanico: It's a beautiful way to create energy. Kuan Yen, the Buddhist mother of mercy and compassion, says, dance and create your energy, create it with love and joy. So, that's what you reminded me of when you talked about being, the light coming from the inside of you.
00:08:57.450 --> 00:09:11.199 Beth: Yeah, I've even gone out sometimes when, you know, we've got an event organised, and we're all going, and I've thought, oh, I don't know, I'm not that… I'm not feeling that, but oh, Linda, the minute I get on the dance floor, suddenly I've just got this energy, and of course it's…
00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:19.450 Beth: it's like an engine, isn't it? You've got it going, you've got it going, and it's wearing up, and then suddenly you feel like you could dance forever, you know? It's, …
00:09:19.590 --> 00:09:21.279 Beth: Yeah, it's amazing.
00:09:22.040 --> 00:09:25.599 Linda Marsanico: So tell me, what is the role of spirituality in your life?
00:09:26.140 --> 00:09:31.079 Beth: Oh, it's huge. It's absolutely huge. I think, when I look back now.
00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:36.540 Beth: I used to say, oh, I wasn't spiritual, But I think, looking back.
00:09:36.940 --> 00:09:44.070 Beth: I've been thinking that there's been signs all the way along the way, but you don't always see them when you're not in that
00:09:44.590 --> 00:09:55.389 Beth: you know, that receiving mode, if you like. But I remember, like, being about 15 and going to see a gypsy, for instance, in a cabin, so there must have been something in me that was, like.
00:09:55.510 --> 00:09:58.699 Beth: you know, what does the future hold? You know, like.
00:09:58.890 --> 00:10:03.019 Beth: there's more to it than this. And I remember reading a book about,
00:10:03.300 --> 00:10:07.109 Beth: the true story, wasn't it? I can't remember who it's by, where the, …
00:10:07.260 --> 00:10:11.370 Beth: The man took photographs of fairies, and he published the book.
00:10:11.660 --> 00:10:23.309 Beth: And it turned out he made it up, and he said there was fairies in the garden, but I remember reading that book at a young age, and literally going around my mum and dad's garden, looking behind the trees.
00:10:23.310 --> 00:10:29.380 Linda Marsanico: desperate to find fairies, you know, literally believing that they were real.
00:10:29.380 --> 00:10:37.080 Beth: And then I think as I got older, I started to do that thing that I think a lot of… I say a lot of people, not everyone does it, but I…
00:10:37.670 --> 00:10:39.219 Beth: I remember it was a very…
00:10:39.920 --> 00:10:47.879 Beth: big moment. I… I was 18, and I used to literally get in my car, start the engine, drive out of Mum and dad's drive.
00:10:49.010 --> 00:10:50.540 Beth: Close the gate.
00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:55.260 Beth: Then I'd put the radio on. And this one particular day.
00:10:55.510 --> 00:11:06.489 Beth: it was like this voice said to me, put the radio on now, your favourite tune is on, and it was level 42, I don't know if you've heard of them, but they were a really big band, and …
00:11:06.650 --> 00:11:13.290 Beth: blow me down if it wasn't the very record. And I was just like… and I sat in my car, and I thought.
00:11:16.030 --> 00:11:18.540 Beth: That's very… You know?
00:11:18.760 --> 00:11:26.200 Beth: And then, as the years went on, I just felt this connection with people. Sometimes I could meet someone.
00:11:26.410 --> 00:11:27.510 Beth: …
00:11:27.770 --> 00:11:35.920 Beth: And then it really went on and on until, I think, really around the time of… between 2010 and 2014, where
00:11:36.670 --> 00:11:52.249 Beth: I got given, the secret. Actually, I got given the power by Rhonda Byrne, first of all, so that literally was my first, sort of, spiritual foray, if you like. And I read this book about the power and love, and I remember reading it and crying.
00:11:52.250 --> 00:11:59.339 Beth: And thinking, there is a different way to be. Of course, then, I was voracious. I couldn't wait to read another book and another book.
00:11:59.900 --> 00:12:15.470 Beth: went on to read the, you know, The Secret, and then I threw myself right, and my friend said, I think you're ready for many lives, many masters, Dr. Brian Weiss. And when I read it, I was like, oh, of course! Of course! It was like that light bulb moment, you know?
00:12:15.470 --> 00:12:15.950 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:12:15.950 --> 00:12:22.859 Beth: From then on… It's become a huge part of my life, and… you know.
00:12:23.340 --> 00:12:26.220 Beth: There isn't a day, an hour, a minute.
00:12:26.230 --> 00:12:38.079 Beth: That even if I'm feeling anxious, stressed, you know, I might be in a chaotic situation, I always bring it… I have a lovely quote, you know, that quote, what would love do? I always bring it back in my mind. What would love do?
00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:49.659 Beth: What would love do in these circumstances? You know, even if I'm in the most difficult client that the world's ever seen, what would love do, you know? And sometimes I'll just go out and do a little meditation, and …
00:12:50.150 --> 00:13:00.680 Beth: walk around the garden, and just say a few words, you know? I love numerology as well, so I've really explored that, and everything that makes you who you are.
00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.319 Beth: And when you know this so much more.
00:13:04.550 --> 00:13:08.430 Beth: it makes life so much more joyful, I think, really.
00:13:08.430 --> 00:13:08.889 Linda Marsanico: I think so.
00:13:08.890 --> 00:13:09.670 Beth: my life.
00:13:10.270 --> 00:13:13.540 Beth: forever. I can't even… there are no words.
00:13:14.350 --> 00:13:20.280 Linda Marsanico: Something beyond the third dimension, something that connects us to… the soul.
00:13:20.520 --> 00:13:24.730 Linda Marsanico: It connects our soul to that greater Wow.
00:13:25.510 --> 00:13:27.879 Linda Marsanico: Gift, that greater being.
00:13:29.170 --> 00:13:38.319 Beth: I don't know if it's the same, I'm sure it is the same for you as well, but I have found that since I've aligned with my… what I feel is my true sole purpose, and I'm doing this.
00:13:38.340 --> 00:13:58.140 Beth: this is what I'm meant to be doing. I attract the most amazing people in my life, and not just clients, but friends as well. You know, I've got a friend that I've known 14 years since I've been here, and I remember walking into a cafe, and I looked at her, and she looked at me, and we both just smiled, the biggest smiles.
00:13:58.480 --> 00:13:58.940 Linda Marsanico: Thank you.
00:13:58.940 --> 00:14:02.560 Beth: I just knew, straight away, that she was going to be
00:14:02.630 --> 00:14:12.090 Beth: A really close friend, and still is, and a lifetime friend, you know? Not just that moment, not just that moment in time, because you're working on a project together.
00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:19.540 Beth: And, I find that now, I connect with people all the time. You know, some friends I've got now, quite recently.
00:14:19.540 --> 00:14:32.400 Beth: We're all spiritual, and the reason we connected… well, right, we were all in a club, and we started dancing to each other, but the thing is, we all have spirituality in common. And we're always talking about crystals, we share meditations…
00:14:32.700 --> 00:14:34.819 Beth: So, yes, it's life-transforming.
00:14:35.010 --> 00:14:42.989 Linda Marsanico: How beautiful. Now, we're getting ready for a break, and when we come back, I want to understand how you got into decluttering.
00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:48.699 Linda Marsanico: So, listeners, come back now and join us after the commercial break.
00:17:02.520 --> 00:17:12.160 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the A Train to Sedona broadcast. I'm Linda Marcanico, with my guest, Beth McPherson.
00:17:12.819 --> 00:17:16.180 Linda Marsanico: So, Beth, tell us how you got into decluttering.
00:17:18.020 --> 00:17:19.040 Beth: I think…
00:17:19.290 --> 00:17:26.730 Beth: I think as I shared that childhood story, there was always that in me, if you like, and then I worked for some bosses where
00:17:26.730 --> 00:17:40.809 Beth: I think when I look back on my stories with them, it was a lot of decluttering going on. If it wasn't the filing cabinet, it was their lives in some way, you know, hastily going out to buy a present for one of their children they'd forgotten to get, etc.
00:17:40.810 --> 00:17:44.369 Beth: But when I came down to Dorset, …
00:17:45.090 --> 00:18:03.439 Beth: It was my friend Helen, actually, that really… well, there was two really big things, really incredible things that happened. I think the first one was with my mother. She'd… we'd lost dad in 2009, and Mum was still living in the house that they'd been in for 50 years.
00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:09.339 Beth: And I used to say to her, Mum, the house is really big for you. I'm not moving. I'm not going anywhere.
00:18:09.590 --> 00:18:12.550 Beth: Dad would want me to stay here. I'm not going.
00:18:12.670 --> 00:18:15.219 Beth: But the house was getting fuller and fuller.
00:18:15.600 --> 00:18:32.610 Beth: and the greenhouse was cracked, and the loft was full, and the garage was full, and everything. And those things actually used to really bother her, but we were… we were still not, you know, she was stuck. She was stuck, and I come across that a lot. I think clutter can really keep you stuck.
00:18:32.890 --> 00:18:34.140 Beth: And then…
00:18:34.660 --> 00:18:40.979 Beth: One day, and this is awful, she had a fall, and she hit her head, and one of the reasons that she
00:18:41.840 --> 00:18:46.289 Beth: I do think the universe has a weird way, sometimes, of delivering things, but do you know…
00:18:46.980 --> 00:18:53.910 Beth: She hit her head on a unit that shouldn't have been in the hallway, and the reason it was in the hallway was because she didn't have room in the bedrooms.
00:18:54.460 --> 00:18:56.460 Beth: And when she came round.
00:18:57.130 --> 00:19:04.640 Beth: she said… it was like she… it was like someone had kind of knocked some sense into her in a good way, you know? And she actually said.
00:19:06.010 --> 00:19:13.490 Beth: I think this fall was meant for a reason. I think I was shown here that I can't stay here anymore.
00:19:13.900 --> 00:19:16.489 Beth: Would you help me declutter my home?
00:19:16.780 --> 00:19:17.330 Linda Marsanico: No, no.
00:19:17.330 --> 00:19:20.090 Beth: So I spent a week with Mum. Now.
00:19:20.190 --> 00:19:37.349 Beth: Mum at that time was really not in a good place, I'd say mentally, you know, she was very depressed, I'll be really honest with you, she was very depressed, you know, the house, and obviously having to let go of everything was really difficult. And she was going to a brand new one-bedroom apartment, and it was all very alien to her.
00:19:37.820 --> 00:19:50.170 Beth: But Linda, if you saw the transformation in my mother by the time that we left, I think about 8 months took to complete the transaction, she started putting makeup on, doing her hair.
00:19:50.360 --> 00:19:56.519 Beth: She met some lovely ladies. They started going out for lunch. She started going for walks.
00:19:56.820 --> 00:19:59.289 Beth: This was not the woman.
00:19:59.390 --> 00:20:14.960 Beth: That had been in that home. And she's now 91 years of age, and still alive, and still okay. She's had a fall recently, but she's okay. I think that decluttering and letting go of the past, I know how hard it was for her.
00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:25.120 Beth: has actually given her a new lease of life, you know? So I think that was a story there. And I actually asked my mum, I said, why did you ask me? And she said, well, it's what you do, isn't it?
00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:28.939 Beth: Which was… you know, not what I was…
00:20:29.030 --> 00:20:48.260 Beth: thinking. And then the other one that was really fun, my friend Helen was… well, not so much fun, she was… she was splitting from her husband, but was very amicable. And she said to me one day, would you come and zhuzh up the house? And I said, oh, I don't know what zhuzhing is. And she went, oh, yeah, you're very good at it.
00:20:48.340 --> 00:20:52.299 Beth: And then I… and I was like, am I? Okay. And then…
00:20:52.540 --> 00:20:56.390 Beth: when I got there, I said, oh yeah, I know what Zhuzhing is.
00:20:56.510 --> 00:20:57.570 Beth: And…
00:20:57.780 --> 00:21:15.359 Beth: I remember this one specific thing. They had a piano, and it was closed, and it was covered in dust, and the photographs of them were all hidden away. I said, look, no one needs to know that you're splitting up. Let's get those wedding photos up, let's get them cleaned up, let's wipe the piano, let's put the lid up, let's put some sheet music up.
00:21:15.560 --> 00:21:29.319 Beth: let's move that cushion, let's move that print, let's clear this clutter, and there was a lot of clutter as well, so it was really pouring love into the home. That's what it felt like, you know? Within a week, she'd got an offer.
00:21:29.930 --> 00:21:30.830 Beth: So….
00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:42.410 Linda Marsanico: And what I'm hearing is that you're pouring a lot of love… your love energy into this, because these women, you're both your mother and Helen, certainly your mother was transformed by your decluttering.
00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:43.210 Beth: Yep.
00:21:43.420 --> 00:21:44.500 Beth: Yeah, definitely.
00:21:44.500 --> 00:21:46.670 Linda Marsanico: A case in process, a case in point.
00:21:46.670 --> 00:21:53.069 Beth: Yeah, and then Helen… Helen said to me, oh, you're so good at this stuff, you know?
00:21:53.650 --> 00:21:54.730 Beth: And then…
00:21:55.280 --> 00:22:02.089 Beth: I thought, wow, is it a thing? I started to do a bit of research, and of course, I'd already been aware that it was a thing.
00:22:02.090 --> 00:22:19.860 Beth: This was as far back as 2015, to be fair, but I didn't have the confidence until 2019 to do anything about it, because I kept thinking… I put it out to a few people, and they were like, well, it sounds more like a charity, and you won't be… you won't make any money, that's not a business. And I kept thinking, I don't know about that.
00:22:19.860 --> 00:22:21.980 Beth: But 2019…
00:22:22.020 --> 00:22:29.260 Beth: I found an association in London, the Association of Professional Declutterers, and I thought, yay, there's actually a group.
00:22:29.560 --> 00:22:42.049 Beth: So I joined them, just to really get the diploma, and just to get that validation that I felt I need going out to say that I'm a member of, you know, of this.
00:22:42.540 --> 00:22:45.180 Beth: And then the clients just started to…
00:22:45.470 --> 00:22:54.320 Beth: Roll in, really. Word of mouth, bit by bit. It's taken me a while to get my SEO going, but that's really… that's really how…
00:22:54.850 --> 00:23:02.919 Beth: A lot of it's been word of mouth. You know, once you do a good job for someone, then they tell someone else, right? They tell a friend, and it's gone from there, really.
00:23:03.380 --> 00:23:06.509 Linda Marsanico: I'm thinking of your mother and Helen as your first clients.
00:23:06.770 --> 00:23:07.460 Beth: Yeah?
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.620 Beth: Yeah, definitely, both of them, you know.
00:23:10.770 --> 00:23:26.329 Beth: I'm still doing stuff for Helen now. She's got a few properties that we're working on. There's a case of decluttering. We've just worked on one recently, actually, that's been, … her parents, again, had lived in their house for 50 years. Huge house, quite…
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:41.640 Beth: well, hoarded in the word that Helen would use as well. You know, we've cleared it, we've cleared it, we painted, we decorated, we've done the whole thing, and they've had loads of offers on the house, and within weeks, as well, which just shows, doesn't it?
00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:55.450 Beth: we painted… we've had such love doing it, getting paint everywhere, we're both in… we've decided that we're not that great about both painting, but what fun! But that's what I love about my job, because you never know where it's going to go, because to me, it's not sometimes…
00:23:55.630 --> 00:24:07.499 Beth: The decluttering, yes, is the first thing, but then someone goes, right, I think that door needs to be a different color. I think we need a new light fitting, and that's what we did with the house. We styled it.
00:24:07.750 --> 00:24:23.299 Beth: So we took it. It's my first time that I've ever been allowed to take a house through to the right to the end, and I am a completer finisher, so you cannot begin to tell you what joy… and when she said to me a few weeks ago, we've had offer after offer on the table.
00:24:23.540 --> 00:24:27.890 Beth: You know? So, … Yeah, this stuff can change.
00:24:28.070 --> 00:24:29.360 Beth: Change lives, you know.
00:24:29.360 --> 00:24:42.840 Linda Marsanico: you've shown by your first two clients and the clients you're continuing to work with. Now, before the show, we talked about the fact that you are based in England, but yet you're available to do work
00:24:43.450 --> 00:24:45.450 Linda Marsanico: in other continents.
00:24:45.450 --> 00:25:03.209 Beth: Yeah, definitely. I mean, I've worked on another continent, and, it worked brilliantly, actually. We just set a time each week. This particular client had a house here in the UK, that she couldn't come over and visit, and, and found me. And…
00:25:03.500 --> 00:25:10.550 Beth: it was great. I should just pitch up, my cup of coffee in my hand, and go to the door, and then I'd ring her at the set time.
00:25:10.930 --> 00:25:16.469 Beth: And then, as we were going through, I'd literally just show her, walk her around the house.
00:25:16.690 --> 00:25:32.120 Beth: she was very specific, she was very organized, actually, and she was literally saying, right, I don't want that picture, that can go to charity. Those toys, they need to go in store, and I was just making notes as I went along, you know, so LEGO in store, picture to charity.
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:48.709 Beth: And then sending it over. It would take about 2 hours, and then I'd finish the call with her, and then I'd do the physical work. So I'd be taking the pictures down, putting them into piles, creating piles. She wanted to put some stuff into store, I found the storage. So, …
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:59.540 Beth: Yeah, it was great. It worked seamlessly, actually. I think you can declutter remotely, really, as long as you set the space, the intention, …
00:25:59.650 --> 00:26:02.910 Beth: It's possible to do, and overseas as well.
00:26:03.070 --> 00:26:05.480 Linda Marsanico: So you mentioned you were on WhatsApp when you did it.
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:11.069 Beth: Yeah, it seemed to be the work the best, actually. It was very easy, because you can do it on WhatsApp video.
00:26:11.590 --> 00:26:13.850 Beth: I can see them, they can see me.
00:26:13.900 --> 00:26:30.470 Beth: And as I come to a… you know, like, if you were going to take a photo on WhatsApp, you know, is that you flick it around so they can see that, you know, and you say, what about this, or… but if I was working with a client and it wasn't that situation, and I've done this remotely before, I had the client, you know, I…
00:26:30.470 --> 00:26:35.029 Beth: Look at the client, but then she'll say, right, we're just approaching the hallway.
00:26:35.030 --> 00:26:37.530 Beth: And I'll get her to flip the camera around.
00:26:37.530 --> 00:26:53.270 Beth: And then I get her to show me all the areas, hopefully with honesty, coming into it, because sometimes they don't always like to show you every little nook and cranny, but then we then flip back, and then she's, what do I do now? And I said, right, well, to your left was so-and-so, so let's go through the coats first of all.
00:26:53.510 --> 00:27:01.799 Beth: There's some bags there. Oh, yeah, those are the bags for charity. Right, get those in your car straight away. It's possible to do, yeah, definitely.
00:27:01.800 --> 00:27:18.799 Linda Marsanico: And you make recommendations to say, she doesn't want this photo, that's gonna go to charity, this is gonna go in storage. And then you arrange the storage. If you were working on a different continent, might that responsibility of finding storage be with the client?
00:27:19.090 --> 00:27:34.339 Beth: It would probably be easier just because of that lack of knowledge, and I liked being on the ground, because with this particular client, I wanted to see the storage unit. You know, I wanted to see what I was signing her up for. I let her do all the financials and sort all that out.
00:27:34.340 --> 00:27:44.430 Beth: But she went on my recommendation. And I also liked the person I worked with, because he was a removal person as well, so I actually worked with him physically and liked his style.
00:27:44.430 --> 00:28:02.289 Beth: If you like, and then… and then I met him at one time, because I think there was a few bits left over, and I was able to go and meet him and drop off some stuff as well. So, … but yeah, I think everything's… so much is available now, isn't it, by the internet? Times have changed so much. It's just doing a bit of… bit of research, really, and…
00:28:02.290 --> 00:28:06.790 Beth: And deciding, if there was a storage situation, how big a storage is required, you know.
00:28:08.100 --> 00:28:16.500 Linda Marsanico: Right. So, why do you think decluttering is such a big deal now? Is it a fashion, or a trend, a new way of thinking?
00:28:17.190 --> 00:28:28.869 Beth: I think it started off as a trend. I think, you know, there's either people that are really into that kind of thing, you know, there's people like the minimalists in America, in Los Angeles, I've been following them for ages.
00:28:29.580 --> 00:28:47.630 Beth: But it's now become, like, a movement, and it's almost like a… I think it's a spiritual shift. I really do believe that, because a lot of clients that come to me, they may not think they have a spiritual bone in their body, but I always say to myself, if they've got a salt lamp, and they've got a Buddha in their garden.
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.640 Beth: And something sparkly.
00:28:49.800 --> 00:28:59.709 Beth: They're definitely on the path, and they don't always know it, and I talk about energy, and they go, what? I go, no, trust me, it's energy shifting.
00:28:59.710 --> 00:29:12.279 Beth: And they're feeling that in their gut, in their head, you know, every part of them is saying, I want to be free of this stuff. I feel stuck, I feel suffocated by it. I don't want this stuff anymore.
00:29:12.280 --> 00:29:30.829 Beth: Because, you know, we come here, I think it's probably Buddha that says this, you know, we come here with nothing, and we leave with nothing. And Western society now, we've got so used to filling, filling our lives, every space in our diary is full. You know, people, we've forgotten just how to be, you know, just how to sit.
00:29:30.830 --> 00:29:39.630 Beth: quietly, with no noise, with a cup of tea, or like you were saying today, go for a bike ride, or, you know, and I think… I know that
00:29:39.720 --> 00:30:00.190 Beth: we've become so used to buying something to fill that gap, and I know that I'm… I was that person. You know, I used to say, there's no such thing as a non-shopping day, you know, literally. And I used to tell myself that I deserved it, that it was okay, I'd justify, but actually.
00:30:00.190 --> 00:30:05.050 Beth: it didn't… it didn't make any difference. It didn't make me happier. Just in that moment.
00:30:05.140 --> 00:30:07.930 Beth: Just that serotonin, and then it was gone.
00:30:08.130 --> 00:30:10.150 Beth: Yeah, so… Yeah.
00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:14.060 Linda Marsanico: That's what people say, it's the moment of the purchase, and then…
00:30:14.520 --> 00:30:26.260 Linda Marsanico: People keep things with tags on, and they add to that, and really, the path to happiness is questioning within and doing the work to develop love and compassion.
00:30:26.590 --> 00:30:35.380 Linda Marsanico: To forgive, to grieve, to do whatever we need to do to get closer to our heart and the core of love within us, where Creator is.
00:30:35.430 --> 00:30:37.980 Beth: Yeah. It's quite a journey.
00:30:38.300 --> 00:30:43.470 Linda Marsanico: away from buying things. Of course, we need to buy things.
00:30:43.910 --> 00:31:02.659 Beth: I love it, I love things. I'm never not gonna like clothes, honestly. There's never… that's never gonna change, you know? I too, I too. But I've… but I've stopped that going out to fill that hole, which is what I used to do before. Shopping was, you know, I'm feeling, I'm gonna, … Of course, the boutiques would love me, wouldn't they?
00:31:02.660 --> 00:31:03.420 Linda Marsanico: Excuse me.
00:31:03.420 --> 00:31:06.260 Beth: Coming! Yay!
00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:09.319 Beth: And I'd buy it, and then, …
00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:18.419 Beth: Yeah, it was… yeah, it'd fill that gap, and then it'd be left. So I think a lot of people are feeling that now. Why do I need all this stuff, you know?
00:31:18.470 --> 00:31:32.609 Beth: We're sold to all the time, aren't we? The marketeers are out there, it's just, literally, we're being sold to. Even those little snaky lines, you know, when you've already got your purchases, I'm sure you've got them in stores over there, where there's always just one more thing you could buy, you know?
00:31:33.180 --> 00:31:39.939 Linda Marsanico: At the cashier. All these different things that you… that you're being tempted as you're waiting.
00:31:39.940 --> 00:31:49.309 Beth: Well, I know when I lived in the States, the cashiers always used to say, is that all for you today, ma'am? And I used to think, don't tempt me!
00:31:50.470 --> 00:31:56.599 Beth: Yes, isn't it enough that I've got this already? You know? But yeah, I think people are starting to…
00:31:57.340 --> 00:32:00.380 Beth: Those that come to me are definitely feeling that shift.
00:32:00.670 --> 00:32:02.180 Beth: You know, that energy.
00:32:02.590 --> 00:32:12.019 Linda Marsanico: Yes, there's a lot of energy coming in, and we're all awakening and developing further, and we'll continue to see this shift, and people want more.
00:32:12.170 --> 00:32:15.680 Linda Marsanico: People will want… To know more about
00:32:16.280 --> 00:32:19.650 Linda Marsanico: their soul, their spiritual journey, so….
00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:21.530 Beth: I think so as well.
00:32:21.770 --> 00:32:25.080 Linda Marsanico: So we're getting ready for a break, and when we come back.
00:32:25.380 --> 00:32:31.409 Linda Marsanico: I'm going to ask you to talk about the lifestyle concept, the name of your business, Beth.
00:32:31.630 --> 00:32:32.330 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:32:32.750 --> 00:32:34.199 Linda Marsanico: Let's take a break.
00:32:34.410 --> 00:32:35.880 Linda Marsanico: And do come back.
00:34:21.560 --> 00:34:35.949 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the A Train to Sedona broadcast. I am Linda Marcanico with my guest, Beth McPherson. Beth, tell us about the Lifestyle Concept, the name of your business.
00:34:36.429 --> 00:34:54.269 Beth: Yes, it's interesting how it came about. I… when I left London and moved down to Dorset, I got very involved in the high street where I lived. I literally threw myself into it, even painting bollards and all sorts of things. It was… it was fun, and putting on a food festival. And, …
00:34:54.509 --> 00:34:55.609 Beth: really…
00:34:56.139 --> 00:35:08.989 Beth: They always say there's no such thing as a mistake, isn't it? It's like everything's a lesson and a learning. And because I love shopping so much, I decided I was going to open up a shop to help reinvigorate the high street.
00:35:09.259 --> 00:35:22.409 Beth: It was a shop, the kind of shop you'd see in, sort of, South London and all the trendy suburbs, and it was… it was a bit ahead of its time, if I'm really honest. But I called it the lifestyle concept, because
00:35:22.989 --> 00:35:25.379 Beth: I wanted to encourage people to
00:35:25.809 --> 00:35:34.449 Beth: have less stuff, but really lovely things. You know, the candles, you know, I sold the secret, I sold the power, you know.
00:35:34.689 --> 00:35:41.609 Beth: beautiful things. I didn't want it to be a cluttered shop, I wanted to show people how they could just have really lovely stuff.
00:35:41.609 --> 00:35:59.509 Beth: And really interestingly, I put a decal in the window that said decluttering, but I never really focused on that side of it, because I just didn't know that it was a thing. It was actually before Mary Kondo had even written her book, so there you go. So I was really, obviously, thinking along those lines.
00:35:59.509 --> 00:36:13.089 Beth: But what became really obvious is that I am rubbish at selling something that I do not really believe in, and I didn't really want to sell people stuff that they couldn't afford.
00:36:13.089 --> 00:36:25.449 Beth: that they just came into my shop because they felt sorry, and they bought something, and there was a lot like that. You know, literally, one lady used to say to me, you've got such a lovely shop, I do come in every week, just…
00:36:25.449 --> 00:36:36.119 Beth: even if I just buy a coaster, you know? And I thought, that's so lovely, but it made me realize that that wasn't my calling, you know? And…
00:36:36.499 --> 00:36:43.119 Beth: when I looked at the name, the lifestyle concept, I realized it was… Tender, loving care.
00:36:43.279 --> 00:36:47.899 Beth: it stood for Tender, loving care, and then I knew then that they wanted
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:57.939 Beth: to do the decluttering. It all sort of fell into place, really. And it was even the way that I fell in love with the high street and was litter picking and weeding. It… it all…
00:36:58.249 --> 00:37:12.919 Beth: When I look back, it was, you know, I used to think, what an absolute nightmare to get from there to there, but actually, it was all… it was all good. It was how it was meant to be, you know, because I came to realize
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:26.799 Beth: that me running a business wasn't me selling loads of stuff to people on the high street, you know, and all the pressure of getting the right stuff in. It was literally helping people let go of stuff, not selling them stuff. So yeah, that's how it came about.
00:37:27.020 --> 00:37:28.920 Linda Marsanico: How long did you keep the shop open?
00:37:29.600 --> 00:37:30.960 Beth: 18 months.
00:37:31.290 --> 00:37:34.489 Beth: So, and when I closed it, it was…
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.999 Beth: You see, the thing is, I think, like, I know how to, like…
00:37:39.330 --> 00:37:44.169 Beth: I know how hard it is to let go, but I know I can help my clients let go, because I had to let go of a shock.
00:37:44.860 --> 00:37:47.399 Linda Marsanico: Our experiences help our clients.
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:48.950 Beth: Yeah, and I, and I…
00:37:50.070 --> 00:37:55.009 Beth: I wanted to keep going with it, and I got a business mentor in, and he said, sweetheart.
00:37:55.120 --> 00:37:57.490 Beth: let it go. And of course.
00:37:57.950 --> 00:38:02.189 Beth: the day I… or the week before, I had a massive sale to clear everything.
00:38:02.340 --> 00:38:07.169 Beth: And I had people come in the shop that had never been there in 18 months, and they lived in the village.
00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:27.129 Beth: And they were literally saying, oh, my goodness, what a beautiful shop, and I had all the trendy brands, and it was amazing. They were like, what? And I said, you never came. I said, you never came, you never saw me. And I said, well, we'll do a crowdfunding. I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's time to let go now, it's time to let go.
00:38:27.590 --> 00:38:29.550 Linda Marsanico: But you needed to go in a different direction.
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:30.300 Beth: Yeah.
00:38:30.300 --> 00:38:39.639 Linda Marsanico: Yeah, it was a direction away from selling new things, but getting people to let go of what they didn't need anymore, what they don't need anymore.
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:56.109 Beth: And as I said to you about Helen's project, with the big house we've just worked on, I did actually like going out and buying new lampshades with her. You know, we did do that, you know, because I like that bit too. And I think what I was trying to say in my shop, in my clumsy way, was, you know, I can help you declutter.
00:38:56.190 --> 00:39:08.679 Beth: then if there are gaps, and it could be a cutlery drawer sorta, you know, we'll go out and buy it together. You know, if I declutter your clothing, and there's some obvious gaps.
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:10.230 Beth: We can go….
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:13.760 Linda Marsanico: Yay, we can go out clothes shopping, you know, so….
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:22.630 Beth: that was it, but I wasn't… I wasn't direct… I was muddled myself, to be fair. Muddled myself, you know? I still wasn't clear-thinking myself, and …
00:39:24.170 --> 00:39:31.960 Beth: when everything started to fall into shape, really, was 2019, when I really thought, yes, now I know who I am. Now I know what I'm doing.
00:39:32.490 --> 00:39:36.409 Beth: And it was just a… Fantastic moment, to be fair.
00:39:37.250 --> 00:39:39.940 Linda Marsanico: It sounds like it could have been a challenging process.
00:39:40.750 --> 00:39:42.260 Beth: It was really challenging.
00:39:42.260 --> 00:40:04.860 Beth: Yeah, I mean, I divorced, because 2014, I'd moved down from London, my husband and I had been together 18 years, our marriage fell apart, I moved to Leamington, then I moved to my friend's cabin, then I moved to an apart… you know, it was literally chaotic, and managing all that stuff at the same time, as well as a shop, a failing shop.
00:40:05.600 --> 00:40:07.690 Beth: It would have been enough to bring
00:40:07.970 --> 00:40:22.149 Beth: I think my spiritual beliefs, you know, we talked about that. Honestly, if I hadn't had my daily affirmations, you know, my gratitudes, even when I'd have a day when I hadn't seen a soul in the shop, you know, I kept thinking.
00:40:22.850 --> 00:40:24.970 Beth: Keep on going, keep on going.
00:40:25.730 --> 00:40:31.260 Beth: there will be… It will fall, you know, because so many people were saying to me.
00:40:32.670 --> 00:40:50.410 Beth: you're more than this shop. You know, you've come to this village, you've thrown yourself into the village, not just me, there was a little group of us, we gave our time voluntarily, and bought pots of paint, and hung bunting up, and, you know, we put on the first food festival, but we're all part of this group, and
00:40:50.550 --> 00:41:01.520 Beth: we just wanted better things, you know, we're just… and I think that was the thing. So many people said to me, don't give up, don't… don't give up, no, even if the shop doesn't work out, don't give up what you're…
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.040 Beth: Trying to bring, if you like, really.
00:41:05.550 --> 00:41:09.719 Linda Marsanico: And you didn't, and you went on to carry on, you know.
00:41:10.010 --> 00:41:15.289 Linda Marsanico: … Wonderful story, thank you for sharing. Please continue.
00:41:15.290 --> 00:41:17.370 Beth: That's okay. No, I think, …
00:41:19.060 --> 00:41:22.289 Beth: again, refer to Helen, she… she was…
00:41:22.570 --> 00:41:25.619 Beth: She was there for me, and she, you know, she sort of…
00:41:26.050 --> 00:41:32.140 Beth: gave me some PA work, and then someone else had been doing some marketing for me, she said, Don't…
00:41:32.410 --> 00:41:47.450 Beth: don't close the name of your business, you know? We've got the website, we've got the Facebook page, we've got the Instagram, you just change what you're doing, but it's the same thing. … well, it's a different thing, but it's the same name, if you like.
00:41:47.830 --> 00:41:53.850 Beth: just don't give up. It just took me a while to find who I was. And I think…
00:41:54.860 --> 00:42:08.899 Beth: I'd always been a PA, you know, I'd always been office manager, and then I ran a business working with L'Oreal. I knew who I was, but hopefully this story will resonate with a lot of women, I think particularly women when you get into your 50s.
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:29.819 Beth: And your whole life changes overnight. You know, you're not that businesswoman, you're not working with L'Oreal anymore, you know, you're not jetting off to the States, you don't live in the States anymore, you know, you're suddenly in this sleepy little village in Dorset, no one knows you, no one cares, you know, like that, it's like the ego gets a… you know what I mean? Not that you want to go around saying, I've done all this stuff, but suddenly.
00:42:29.820 --> 00:42:36.060 Beth: You're a… your rug, your comfort, your support, you know who you are for the majority of your life.
00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:38.289 Linda Marsanico: And suddenly, boom.
00:42:38.290 --> 00:42:44.150 Beth: it's gone, you know? And then the marriage of that long, And you're like.
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.150 Beth: who… who am I? Who, what, what?
00:42:47.850 --> 00:42:52.609 Beth: what am I… what am I… what is my role, you know? …
00:42:53.540 --> 00:42:57.949 Beth: And as I say, the spiritual side, I just kept believing and believing and believing.
00:42:58.050 --> 00:43:01.650 Beth: But it was all gonna come. And now, when I look back.
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:03.719 Beth: I'm like, well, of course, yes.
00:43:04.630 --> 00:43:11.229 Beth: It was all part of the, you know? And the TLC, the lifestyle concept, it was all part of the journey.
00:43:11.340 --> 00:43:15.260 Beth: You know, so… I can't even really tell you when I chose the name.
00:43:16.310 --> 00:43:32.850 Beth: it just felt like a right now, I came up with it. I don't know, it just came out… came out of my head, you know? And it feels right for my business now. Because it's about leaving a different lifestyle, isn't it? Changing, you know, coming from a place of love, you know, loving your home, loving yourself.
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:35.789 Beth: And being kind to yourself.
00:43:36.110 --> 00:43:37.230 Beth: And…
00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:43.850 Beth: Decluttering your home, letting go of that. Both the mental and, of course, the physical and mental clutter. Clutter.
00:43:44.010 --> 00:43:44.500 Linda Marsanico: Hmm.
00:43:44.500 --> 00:43:51.849 Beth: has mental attached to it, you know, mental attachment as well. Memories from the past, trauma, childhood trauma.
00:43:52.900 --> 00:43:54.150 Beth: Something's happened.
00:43:54.640 --> 00:43:57.280 Beth: Recently, that's knocked 2 for 6.
00:43:57.420 --> 00:44:02.890 Beth: Clinging on to stuff, fear of poverty, there's so many emotions wrapped up in it, so….
00:44:02.890 --> 00:44:08.580 Linda Marsanico: It's so important for us to acknowledge those and work to let them go, because they don't serve us.
00:44:09.020 --> 00:44:22.290 Linda Marsanico: I mean, it's one thing to be positive, and we need to be positive, but we also need to pay attention to what needs to be let go, what needs to be grieved, what needs to be journaled about, so that we can hear the voice of Creator.
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:23.969 Beth: Yeah, I think I'm gonna….
00:44:23.970 --> 00:44:25.300 Linda Marsanico: Distracted, I can't.
00:44:25.990 --> 00:44:28.889 Beth: I think, with the… with the…
00:44:30.140 --> 00:44:46.730 Beth: the way that we're going through, you know, we're all evolving into this, you know, into our true selves. I think I really do feel that very, very strongly, but I think there's been so much now with gratitude, you know, about gratitude and affirmations, but I always say, if you're not actually feeling them.
00:44:47.670 --> 00:44:55.840 Beth: they're falling on… that they're a waste of space, aren't they? If you're struggling to find 3 gratitudes, because actually, you're still thinking.
00:44:56.240 --> 00:45:04.500 Beth: my life's really awful, and I should have done this, and they did this, and I was… and that, and da-da-da, then they're not…
00:45:05.390 --> 00:45:11.279 Beth: to say them is good, is a good start, but I think always be mindful
00:45:11.830 --> 00:45:17.350 Beth: saying them isn't just suddenly going to… I know when I started, and I say this just coming from my story.
00:45:17.500 --> 00:45:18.560 Beth: Oh!
00:45:18.820 --> 00:45:27.080 Beth: 10 gratitudes a day, and then here's your affirmations. I used to think, well, don't you believe them? What's the point of me saying them? But of course, over time.
00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:32.870 Beth: If you say them enough, and as we all know, if you repeat things, what's it, 31 days or something, 21 days?
00:45:33.640 --> 00:45:39.380 Beth: you start to believe, don't you? You know, if you keep something up long enough. But it's hard.
00:45:39.510 --> 00:45:41.690 Beth: To even get there in the first place.
00:45:41.950 --> 00:45:42.779 Beth: You know, so….
00:45:42.780 --> 00:45:45.330 Linda Marsanico: Pun intended, we need to clean house.
00:45:45.930 --> 00:45:46.320 Beth: Yeah.
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:55.190 Linda Marsanico: Emotionally, mentally, so that we can really believe and manifest, co-create these affirmations.
00:45:56.010 --> 00:46:02.019 Beth: Totally. And I always say it starts with a declutter. I really do. Clean house.
00:46:02.020 --> 00:46:03.050 Linda Marsanico: Clean Mind.
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:05.570 Beth: They, they too go.
00:46:05.720 --> 00:46:24.840 Beth: Because even when I've been working with clients, where I do a little bit of PA work for them as well, and I try and do a bit of mental health support, really, and the client I've been working with for quite a long time, she's got a very cluttered home, and… but I want to sort of do some CBT with her, and, you know, she's got all the books and everything, but she hasn't got the headspace.
00:46:25.050 --> 00:46:26.380 Beth: Because the home is…
00:46:26.650 --> 00:46:36.560 Beth: And so, I've kind of parked that for now. I want to be able to do those things. I want to take her for country walks, you know, and all that other stuff, good stuff, the mental stuff.
00:46:36.940 --> 00:46:41.580 Beth: But right now, her head's so full, of just…
00:46:42.330 --> 00:46:46.719 Beth: Stuff from the past. The stuff all around her which is a memory of the past.
00:46:46.720 --> 00:46:47.470 Linda Marsanico: Hmm.
00:46:47.470 --> 00:46:52.359 Beth: Which is causing chaos, and actually causing her to be stuck, as well. Stuck, because…
00:46:53.220 --> 00:46:59.349 Beth: physically can't move in some of the rooms. … But it weighs heavy.
00:46:59.690 --> 00:47:13.519 Beth: I don't know that she feels the same for her, but I feel… I said to her the other day, I said, I feel tired coming here. I do. It makes me tired, because it's so overwhelming, right? Claustrophobic, it's quite intense, you know, so….
00:47:13.520 --> 00:47:16.350 Linda Marsanico: Of course, the journey starts with something.
00:47:16.510 --> 00:47:34.240 Linda Marsanico: We can't do everything at once, as long as, you know, we're consciously on the path. Of course, if somebody wants to be unconscious, that's for them, and that's their journey, and there's no judgment. But I wanted to say we're at time for a break, and I want to talk about… we have one segment to go.
00:47:34.410 --> 00:47:41.610 Linda Marsanico: what kinds of clients you help, and why do you think your clients have clutter? So, listeners.
00:47:41.720 --> 00:47:45.679 Linda Marsanico: We're having a break, come back and we'll hear what Beth has to say about that.
00:49:50.640 --> 00:50:05.940 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the A Train to Sedona broadcast. I'm Linda Marasanical with my guest, Beth McPherson. So, Beth, we have inside of about 10 minutes, we've got a lot to talk about. Tell me, what kinds of clients do you help?
00:50:06.950 --> 00:50:07.730 Beth: …
00:50:09.370 --> 00:50:19.189 Beth: Some of them feel stuck, they often say that it could be that they're feeling they've had enough of it, or their partner has had enough, so there's a.
00:50:19.190 --> 00:50:19.589 Linda Marsanico: a little bit of….
00:50:19.720 --> 00:50:21.970 Beth: You know, they're having…
00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:40.060 Beth: not exactly roused, but literally disagreements about the declutter, and I quite often get clients that say, well, if I had my husband's way, he'd get the skip in and clear the lot, and I'm like, I don't want to do it that way. So, a real mixture. High-flying businesswomen that just literally don't have the time.
00:50:40.060 --> 00:50:40.720 Linda Marsanico: Huh.
00:50:40.720 --> 00:50:46.779 Beth: Literally want to get on top of their house, they've got children, husband, and they work on their own businesses.
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:53.860 Beth: through to people who, I worked for a couple who, had 3 garages that was full of stuff.
00:50:53.860 --> 00:51:09.690 Beth: And they were having to rent all these garages, and they were thinking it's crazy that they're having to rent these garages, and the gentleman had actually had Parkinson's as well, and it was putting such a strain on the family, in terms of it was his stuff.
00:51:09.950 --> 00:51:15.980 Beth: So I went through really, really slowly with him, but he was such a lovely soul. He was so lovely.
00:51:16.190 --> 00:51:33.560 Beth: And we just went through garage by garage, going through, selling some things, donating to charity, I'd load up my car, then once we decluttered one garage, go on to another. And now, everything's just contained in one space, which is their space, which they don't rent.
00:51:33.890 --> 00:51:35.610 Beth: I left them happy.
00:51:35.740 --> 00:51:40.169 Beth: Through to people who,
00:51:41.020 --> 00:51:50.160 Beth: The lady I've got at the moment with her husband, again, he would like to have less stuff. They've got a lovely cottage. They moved from a lot bigger house.
00:51:50.370 --> 00:51:57.410 Beth: And it's… They've kind of transported all the stuff from the big house into this much smaller house.
00:51:57.410 --> 00:52:12.850 Beth: So, of course, it's very, very clotted as well. I mean, they actually have a barn as well, and it's full of all the stuff from the old… the old house. We haven't addressed the barn yet, we're building up to it. I never get… I never ask clients to go in. I always say to them, let's start with your…
00:52:12.850 --> 00:52:14.090 Beth: Cutlery jaw.
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.560 Beth: Make it really easy.
00:52:16.560 --> 00:52:17.390 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:52:17.390 --> 00:52:26.470 Beth: and nice little wins, you know, and things they're not attached to. … I've had people who, …
00:52:26.510 --> 00:52:45.729 Beth: you know, ring me up and say, yes, I know I'm a hoarder, and I need help, you know? I'm working with a gentleman at the moment who, has actually got dementia, but we… he's absolutely lovely, but again, he's moved from a lot bigger property and filled the house, and of course, with his dementia, he's forgotten what he's bought, so he's gone and duplicated everything.
00:52:45.730 --> 00:52:57.589 Beth: But I've started selling through some of his stuff as well, and he's an absolute dark delight to work for as well. But a real variety, really, over the years. A lot of busy housewives, you know, and… and…
00:52:57.750 --> 00:53:05.199 Beth: when I… we talk about this, because obviously as we get to know each other, there's a lot of sharing going on, and a lot of them say.
00:53:05.300 --> 00:53:09.080 Beth: when I'm with you, I can let go of this stuff.
00:53:09.730 --> 00:53:16.260 Beth: But when I'm on my own, I'm like a rabbit caught in headlights. I can't… I can't even… it's overwhelming.
00:53:16.690 --> 00:53:18.559 Beth: And I think that's the key.
00:53:18.710 --> 00:53:41.679 Beth: is that a lot of the clients are overwhelmed and they don't know where to start. Doesn't mean they don't want to, doesn't mean that they don't know that they need to, but where do they start? And I think foremost in their mind is probably the memory stuff, which they… they use… that's almost a block to them, because a lot of them say to me, oh, but I've got all this stuff that belonged to mum and dad and my brother, you know, da-da-da.
00:53:41.680 --> 00:53:44.840 Beth: And I always say, Park that to one side.
00:53:45.070 --> 00:53:47.089 Beth: We'll start with the easy stuff.
00:53:47.200 --> 00:53:48.670 Beth: them to build up.
00:53:48.980 --> 00:53:53.159 Beth: the crescendo. But hopefully, by the time they've got through the easy stuff.
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:56.610 Beth: And seeing the results, the bigger thing will…
00:53:57.170 --> 00:54:01.500 Beth: will be easier, I'm not saying it's gonna be amazing, but, you know, they're much easier for them.
00:54:01.890 --> 00:54:06.299 Linda Marsanico: It occurs to me that you bring them hope, as well as a loving energy.
00:54:06.600 --> 00:54:11.340 Linda Marsanico: Hope that you can get this done. Why do you think they declutter… why do they clutter?
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:27.569 Beth: A lot of clients, have touches of autism, ADHD, neurodiversity, and they, they normally, within about 2 or 3 sessions, we start talking about it, you know, but I can pretty much tell. I mean.
00:54:27.650 --> 00:54:42.499 Beth: we're all individual, we're all individual, and you can't say, just because you've got that, you're like that. You know, I've met people that are autistic that are really on it, and really organized, and I've met other people that are chaotic. I've met ADHDers that are like, whoa, you know.
00:54:42.550 --> 00:55:01.390 Beth: and then others that are chaotic as well. There's a little bit of that going on. I do think it's those, those, as in Gabba Matty's words, those first 8 years of childhood, where there is some sort of trauma, there is some sort of trauma, that keeps… you know, when I think to my mum, it was losing my dad.
00:55:01.390 --> 00:55:14.799 Beth: you know, when I think of this client, one of the clients now, they had some problems with debt. You know, there's a trauma there that keeps them stuck, you know, whether it comes from childhood.
00:55:14.810 --> 00:55:15.870 Beth: I think…
00:55:15.950 --> 00:55:28.310 Beth: you know, if your parents are super, super, super tidy, and there's quite a pressure, you could argue that you go on to be super, super messy, right? On the other hand, you could take after your parents.
00:55:28.670 --> 00:55:30.239 Beth: And they really, just like.
00:55:30.240 --> 00:55:33.140 Linda Marsanico: We always make choices. We're always making choices.
00:55:33.140 --> 00:55:41.620 Beth: Yeah, and I was lucky in that way. My mum and dad were very organized, you know, so… you could say that would… that would flow, you know.
00:55:41.860 --> 00:55:51.929 Beth: My brother was very organized as well, so it definitely comes from our… from our backgrounds, actually. In fact, that was probably, you know, very much my mum liked us to be organized, you know.
00:55:52.290 --> 00:56:01.849 Beth: looking smart ship-shape in our bedrooms. So, yeah, that came from that, definitely. But I think the trauma is the link as well, and then the, …
00:56:02.560 --> 00:56:08.369 Beth: want to do it, but can't do it without me, that the number of clients that I say that… but I think it's a bit like…
00:56:09.310 --> 00:56:25.670 Beth: if you went to the gym, are you able to self-motivate yourself? You know, you've got the routine, you know how to do it, right? You've got the routine in front of you. Are you self-motivated and able to walk your way around the gym and do it, or do you need a PT to stand there?
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:27.230 Linda Marsanico: Yeah.
00:56:27.230 --> 00:56:31.610 Beth: Come on, you need to do this, you need to do that. I like a PT myself.
00:56:31.610 --> 00:56:32.010 Linda Marsanico: Hmm.
00:56:32.010 --> 00:56:49.859 Beth: I do online. So, could I do it without knowing that he's there? Yes, I'm quite good at doing the records and everything, but I still like the fact, if you took me to a gym, I would be like, hmm, I'll just go on the… I won't… I'll just dabble on the cross trainer, you know? So, I know myself, I…
00:56:49.990 --> 00:57:07.819 Beth: I've got, some paperwork I've got to go through. I don't think I'll have any problem per se, but the thought of going through it is quite overwhelming, and I've got other stuff to do. You know, there's a little bit of that as well. I'm working with a lovely teacher at the moment. Of course, she works flat out. …
00:57:08.240 --> 00:57:11.509 Beth: And she's got all these nooks and crannies that are just full of stuff.
00:57:11.670 --> 00:57:22.360 Beth: But a few weeks ago, I worked on her hall, and it was so lovely. Such a lovely moment. She said, oh, I don't think we can take this on, or I think we've taken on too much.
00:57:22.740 --> 00:57:28.559 Beth: this is too much. I said, look, let me take the overwhelm, Just trust.
00:57:29.180 --> 00:57:30.630 Beth: It will get the job done.
00:57:30.850 --> 00:57:34.570 Beth: And I said, and I promise I won't leave you worse than what we were before.
00:57:34.570 --> 00:57:35.230 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:57:35.230 --> 00:57:54.600 Beth: start clearing out coats and shoes. I'm not gonna leave them in the hallway and, you know, just pack my bags and go. And, you know, we achieved it in 2 hours. We cleared, and there was a lot of stuff that was just rubbish that she'd kept for whenever. And she was questioning herself, I don't know why I've kept this. But the look on her face when we finished.
00:57:54.940 --> 00:57:57.540 Beth: And she's kept it exactly the same.
00:57:57.540 --> 00:58:06.329 Linda Marsanico: That's a wonderful story, and I'm going to need to stop you there, because I want to have enough time for you to tell our listeners where they can find you.
00:58:06.330 --> 00:58:12.900 Beth: Yes, absolutely. So it's, it's the… the website is thelifestyleconcept.co.uk.
00:58:12.900 --> 00:58:32.339 Beth: And all my links to all my Facebook and my Instagram are on there. I think it's Lifestyle ConceptDeclutterer. I'm very active on Instagram and Facebook, you know, just posting. A lot of the stuff has got a spiritual leaning to it, you know, just quotes and things, and maybe now and then I'll throw in a bit of a tip as well, but yes, that's where you can find me, so….
00:58:32.340 --> 00:58:36.869 Linda Marsanico: Lovely. It's been inspiring to hear how you help people, Beth.
00:58:37.010 --> 00:58:53.090 Linda Marsanico: I'm so glad to have you on the show. I wanted to say to our listeners that next week, I have Hugh Massey, who started an organization called Boys Without Fathers. He lost his father at a young age, and he helps boys to become
00:58:53.710 --> 00:59:01.070 Linda Marsanico: work involved to have successful careers. Once again, Beth, thank you so much for being my guest.
00:59:01.070 --> 00:59:03.290 Beth: Thank you, Linda, that was amazing. Thank you.
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