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The audience will see a preview of the documentary Being Frank: For A Healthy Future and will also hear about how the show has evolved while paying tribute to previous shows, guests and discuss how we will manage disruption going forward.
In this milestone 150th episode of Frank About Health, host Frank R. Harrison is joined by Phyllis Quinlan and John Beyer for a powerful reflection on the show’s journey from personal disruption to public advocacy. The episode pays tribute to the late Reatha Grey, features an exclusive clip from Frank’s upcoming documentary, and highlights how caregiving, creativity, and community converge to preserve dignity and mental health. John Beyer shares his inspiring story of recovery through music, while Frank and Phyllis explore the evolution of Frank About Health into a larger mission under Health E Media, LLC. This special broadcast celebrates resilience, legacy, and the next chapter in transforming healthcare through media and truth-telling.
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In the 150th episode of Frank About Health, Frank R. Harrison honors the memory of his friend Reatha Gray while spotlighting the show's evolution from epilepsy awareness to a broader healthcare advocacy platform, now co-hosted by Phyllis Quinlan. Together, they reflect on their mission to challenge systemic inefficiencies, spark conversations, and empower caregivers and healthcare professionals to think critically, especially in a post-COVID world. With clips from an upcoming documentary and a strong emphasis on restoring compassion in healthcare, the episode serves as a rallying point for providers and advocates to reclaim purpose and patient-centered values.
In this heartfelt segment of Frank About Health, Phyllis Quinlan commends Frank Harrison’s resilience in living with epilepsy and using his experience to build a compassionate advocacy platform that supports caregivers and patients alike. They stress the growing urgency for families—especially millennials now entering caregiving roles—to prepare proactively for eldercare amid unpredictable healthcare policies and diminishing government support. With practical safety tips for aging in place, medication management strategies, and a call to prioritize self-care, this segment reinforces the show’s mission: to empower caregivers with knowledge, preparation, and advocacy in a shifting healthcare landscape.
In this segment, Frank About Health dives into the urgent need for policy reform and personal preparedness in healthcare. Frank and Phyllis discuss the potential of longitudinal or universal-style healthcare—like Medicare for All—to reduce costs, improve access, and stabilize the system, noting how global models balance public and private care. Drawing from past economic downturns, Phyllis emphasizes how caregivers must prepare now—financially, legally, and environmentally—for a future with potentially less government support, calling on families to proactively plan, hold difficult conversations, and ensure advance directives and safety measures are in place before a crisis hits.
In the closing segment of Frank About Health’s 150th episode, Frank R. Harrison celebrates the show's legacy of resilience, advocacy, and holistic health with returning guests Danielle Swanson and Phyllis Quinlan. They emphasize the importance of intentionality—especially in practices like breathwork for nervous system regulation—and reflect on the need for verified, trustworthy information in caregiving, pointing listeners to reliable sources like the AMA and personal healthcare networks, including pharmacists. As the episode wraps, colleagues and collaborators honor Frank’s unwavering dedication to open dialogue, compassionate care, and building a platform that goes beyond illness to address the full human experience.
00:01:58.850 --> 00:02:04.469 Frank R. Harrison: Hey, everybody, and welcome to the 150th episode of Frank about health.
00:02:04.750 --> 00:02:12.830 Frank R. Harrison: What you've just seen right now is that this show is dedicated to the memory of Ritha Gray, a very dear friend of mine, and
00:02:13.010 --> 00:02:17.619 Frank R. Harrison: kind of a silent partner since I started the show back in 2016.
00:02:17.650 --> 00:02:45.660 Frank R. Harrison: To be exact, however, that being said in 2021, I had come back to Talkradio, Dot, Nyc. When we were all on lockdown because of Covid, and after the first, st I think, 6 months of the show, it was my pleasure to meet Phyllis Quinlan, who's joining me today on this special episode because we're going to be paying tribute to a little clip and further clips of the very documentary that will be released on Youtube in August.
00:02:45.690 --> 00:03:03.690 Frank R. Harrison: I've been talking about it for about a year now, but now it'll finally come to light, and so you'll get a chance to see clips from the documentary. But we're also going to pay tribute to, not just Ritha, and to what Phyllis and I have been able to build during 2022, and 2023.
00:03:03.730 --> 00:03:12.520 Frank R. Harrison: But we're also showing how we have been acting post-covid. And we're also going to show what we are going to be doing to continue advocating
00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:36.309 Frank R. Harrison: what began as a thought of how to remove the stigma from epilepsy has evolved into a whole narrative of how we can advocate for each other in any form of caregiving whether it is caregiving or whether it's dealing with pandemics or illnesses that have new cures, artificial intelligence, syndromes, mental health issues
00:03:36.380 --> 00:03:42.790 Frank R. Harrison: the list pretty much goes on. We are faced, especially in today's culture.
00:03:42.850 --> 00:04:07.479 Frank R. Harrison: with a lot of challenges, misinformation as well as disruptions that were not anticipated, but that we have already been pre warned when we were going through Covid. So now we have the skill set, and at least this show has evolved into a platform that is going to provide the resources for all the listeners and viewers that have been with me for now 150 episodes. But at the same time
00:04:07.640 --> 00:04:18.789 Frank R. Harrison: Phyllis and I are going to provide during this show, not just the tributes, but the resources to be on the lookout for right here on Frank, about health, and on other forms of media that I will be
00:04:18.930 --> 00:04:23.039 Frank R. Harrison: transmitting that being, said. Phyllis.
00:04:23.210 --> 00:04:37.890 Frank R. Harrison: there's, I mean it has been an interesting year, to say the least, and then, of course, the 3 years prior, there have been the ups and the downs. But I got to tell you honestly in looking at the documentary, and even in looking at the catalog of shows.
00:04:38.270 --> 00:04:44.819 Frank R. Harrison: If it wasn't for you, I don't think the show would have lasted 150 episodes, I think it would have ended by year 2.
00:04:45.140 --> 00:04:48.370 Frank R. Harrison: That would be my honest, my own, my own honest opinion.
00:04:48.490 --> 00:04:54.069 Frank R. Harrison: but welcome to celebrating 150 episodes of Frank about health.
00:04:54.070 --> 00:05:11.149 Phyllis Quinlan: Well, I wouldn't miss it. Okay. Number one. Thank you for those kind words. It's very generous and kind of you to say, but this is your podcast. This is your show. This is all you, Frank, and I'm happy to be here to support you and and to offer my 2 cents when it's asked for.
00:05:11.500 --> 00:05:17.790 Phyllis Quinlan: But this is your program and congratulations on your 150th episode.
00:05:18.490 --> 00:05:19.420 Phyllis Quinlan: Thank you. Thank you.
00:05:19.420 --> 00:05:20.450 Phyllis Quinlan: Very welcome.
00:05:20.660 --> 00:05:48.390 Frank R. Harrison: I know that we have a lot to talk about, especially in segments 2, 3, and 4. So I think that for everyone out there you'll get a chance to see a little bit about of our a little bit about the past, but the main focus of understanding that is that foundation will be discussed at length on the actual documentary. When I release it on Youtube. The date is still pending, but it'll be announced by next week. So that being said, I think we're ready for the 1st
00:05:48.520 --> 00:05:55.000 Frank R. Harrison: one or 2 segments of the documentary, take it away.
00:06:05.400 --> 00:06:19.140 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Frank was introduced to Phyllis Quinlan, whom he very quickly developed a powerful business relationship with. We were introduced by a mutual friend, Sam Leibowitz. I had met Sam at a networking group.
00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:45.489 www.TalkRadio.nyc: and he was lovely, and during one of the breakout sessions of the networking group I told him that I was a registered nurse, and also a professional coach, very much interested in working with people who are professional and family caregivers, but of course, all people who were struggling with trying to untie the knot of Covid, and of course in need of either life, coaching or personal coaching.
00:06:45.490 --> 00:06:49.570 www.TalkRadio.nyc: As soon as I told him I was a nurse. He was like, I need to introduce you to someone.
00:06:49.570 --> 00:06:57.590 www.TalkRadio.nyc: So I was like, sure, because that's what networking is all about, right. And next thing I know we're doing a zoom call together, you know a meet and greet.
00:06:57.620 --> 00:07:05.510 www.TalkRadio.nyc: and you invited me to be on one of your episodes. I took you up on that wonderful invitation, and here we are.
00:07:06.530 --> 00:07:12.990 www.TalkRadio.nyc: The 2 work together on a two-hour share the care panel. There is the academic bucket.
00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:17.889 www.TalkRadio.nyc: and then there is the industry of healthcare
00:07:18.290 --> 00:07:21.079 www.TalkRadio.nyc: and boy. Do they contradict each other
00:07:21.450 --> 00:07:30.540 www.TalkRadio.nyc: so as as a as a consultant who goes into healthcare organizations, I have actually been asked by the people who acquired me.
00:07:30.780 --> 00:07:35.070 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Why do I need to hire you to teach my nurses how to be contextual?
00:07:36.250 --> 00:07:48.789 www.TalkRadio.nyc: And my my response to that essentially is, were you here in the late nineties, when managed, care infiltrated the business of healthcare, we changed our care model.
00:07:49.340 --> 00:08:06.900 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Yes, yes, I was part of that. I was a champion. I was a leader. Okay? And what was the dominant word? Well, the dominant word was efficiency more with less downsizing, right sizing business business and the healthcare industry got taken over by financially
00:08:07.050 --> 00:08:10.209 www.TalkRadio.nyc: focused folks, and it became a business
00:08:10.430 --> 00:08:17.460 www.TalkRadio.nyc: in the years 10 years or so, when managed care started and managed care, kind of filtered away.
00:08:19.030 --> 00:08:20.830 www.TalkRadio.nyc: I never heard the word caring.
00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:36.470 www.TalkRadio.nyc: I heard the word efficiency. I heard the word do more with less slickering, quicker. You know all these things that you might hear on Wall Street or in the back room of a finance, you know, a finance office.
00:08:36.780 --> 00:08:41.450 www.TalkRadio.nyc: So when I said to this person, was, You got what you paid for, didn't you?
00:08:41.570 --> 00:09:11.570 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Because you asked people who have a heartfelt connection to human services to stop doing that, and to actually become much more efficient and technical and financially minded in order to survive. You were telling them that if you didn't do this, the healthcare industry wouldn't survive. Not only that, but Frank decided that he wanted to bring Phyllis along for the ride, working with her to make her the co-host of Frank about health, starting in 2022.
00:09:16.540 --> 00:09:19.130 Frank R. Harrison: All right. That's only the beginning, right?
00:09:19.500 --> 00:09:21.789 Phyllis Quinlan: That's a real walk down Memory Lane.
00:09:21.790 --> 00:09:27.089 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, so I know that as part of our planning for this show, we talked about
00:09:27.270 --> 00:09:38.660 Frank R. Harrison: discussing some of the key highlights that are still going on right now, as frank about health moves forward in 2025. What would you like to emphasize most of all for all of us.
00:09:39.450 --> 00:09:55.099 Phyllis Quinlan: You know, I think as we go forward. I would never want us to lose sight of how we started, which was advocacy, advocacy, advocacy, and and being, you know, having a mission and purpose to raise awareness, to inform.
00:09:55.330 --> 00:10:23.070 Phyllis Quinlan: to stimulate conversation, to ask the good questions in some cases ask the hard questions, to get to people, to think and think for themselves. In other words, we're not trying to sway anybody to think this way or that way. I think we've done a really good job of bringing in a variety of perspectives from which people can say that resonates that resonates, didn't know about that. Let me learn
00:10:23.070 --> 00:10:25.779 Phyllis Quinlan: about that and start to grow
00:10:26.271 --> 00:10:36.430 Phyllis Quinlan: within themselves about, you know the topics that we are presenting. And essentially, you know, we're we're talking about advocacy, about being
00:10:36.730 --> 00:10:43.019 Phyllis Quinlan: competent and confident to own your own life and make good decisions for yourself. That's what we're about.
00:10:43.020 --> 00:10:43.570 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Okay.
00:10:43.570 --> 00:10:45.339 Phyllis Quinlan: And I think we've done that.
00:10:45.900 --> 00:11:04.299 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, absolutely. And I know that what we were able to evolve not just in the caregiving discussions is we were really bringing out an audience awareness in how mental health is really in your own hands. A lot of people, I believe, probably pre-covid more than anything.
00:11:04.330 --> 00:11:32.359 Frank R. Harrison: were believing that the healthcare system was robust enough to provide you with the resources that if you sought them you found them. And it was never really that simplistic. I mean, it's kind of like Covid exposed what was really missing, and all the cracks in the system, if you will. And I know that my own small mission of epilepsy was only the seed of really uncovering all of the conundrums that we face in various healthcare topics. And I think when we all face the point
00:11:32.370 --> 00:11:37.870 Frank R. Harrison: where we're actually caregiving for our parents, like the Sandwich generation, as they call it.
00:11:37.980 --> 00:11:59.789 Frank R. Harrison: Then you really need to know what those missing elements are. I think right now we have 2 final segment or one final segment before we close out the segment of this show. So take it away, Jesse, and then, when we come back right we'll be focused on caregiving the the ultimate mission of this show since its inception. So please stay tuned.
00:12:00.110 --> 00:12:01.250 Frank R. Harrison: Go ahead, Jesse.
00:12:03.540 --> 00:12:07.190 www.TalkRadio.nyc: At our age we really have to think about our health.
00:12:07.380 --> 00:12:12.070 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Doctors say a glass of wine a day can extend your life
00:12:15.160 --> 00:12:25.969 www.TalkRadio.nyc: cheers. Looks like we're gonna live forever. Betty White is the greatest boss
00:12:26.110 --> 00:12:39.550 www.TalkRadio.nyc: on earth. She's wonderful. She's kind, was wonderful and kind and just and fair. And I was working with her on a show called Betty White's Off the Rockers. And we did pranks on Young People.
00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:49.890 www.TalkRadio.nyc: and I had a great time doing the show. Betty basically was like our leader, and she would send us out on pranks for Young People.
00:12:50.670 --> 00:13:08.710 www.TalkRadio.nyc: and I had a great time working on it. It's part of my dream job as an actress. I want to be able to work short days, not have to memorize a lot of lines, get to improvise a whole bunch of stuff and just have fun. So that's
00:13:09.650 --> 00:13:36.090 www.TalkRadio.nyc: that was my experience with Betty White. Working was just fun. I looked forward to looking to it every time I was going to be on the set, making another tribute this time to the hardworking nurses during the pandemic and beyond. Oh, yeah, and you're so welcome. But speaking about videos and knowing the fact that you are a nurse, we have a surprise for you and for everyone else right there to celebrate nursing Appreciation month. So take it away, Dylan.
00:13:44.050 --> 00:13:49.309 www.TalkRadio.nyc: She can cure with a smile. She can heal with her hands.
00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:54.330 www.TalkRadio.nyc: but she can ruin your high with point 2 of knocking.
00:13:54.450 --> 00:14:07.040 www.TalkRadio.nyc: and she only sips an apple where Jaco can see she's wise like a dog, but she's always a nurse to me.
00:14:07.420 --> 00:14:09.100 www.TalkRadio.nyc: She can lead you.
00:16:22.860 --> 00:16:32.240 www.TalkRadio.nyc: by Frank's courage to talk about his chronic health situation, and again to find a way to live with
00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:55.809 www.TalkRadio.nyc: seizure activities and live with epilepsy. You are not epileptic, you are living with epilepsy. And to take that fact and and decide. I'm going to thrive in life. This is a part of my life. It's not defining me. It's not who I am. It's a part of me, but I'm going to use that part of me, and the challenges that it's giving me to create a forum
00:16:55.810 --> 00:17:12.350 www.TalkRadio.nyc: to help others. Now, as a professional caregiver that resonated me from day one I truly I could hear the heartfelt sincerity behind what he wanted the show to be and to become. And
00:17:12.349 --> 00:17:36.199 www.TalkRadio.nyc: it just spoke to me. It spoke to me as a coach. It spoke to me as a registered nurse, and I also felt that it was time to use this medium to try to reach more people with the messages of hope, and of course, the information and raise the sense of awareness that was possible, because we had this forum.
00:17:48.430 --> 00:18:17.910 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, so that's what we're doing in this section. We're catching up to the now. But how did we get here, Phyllis? We got here by discussing caregiving, and I know even that conversation continues. It continues in news media every day. It continues in your work. It continues on various episodes of the show. You and I had spoken with Marshall Runji, which I know we're going to feature later on on this show. But the thing that I wanted to ask you right point blank, is
00:18:18.050 --> 00:18:28.620 Frank R. Harrison: caregiving really has to be understood of how you care for others, while at the same time caring for yourself, and most people seem to have lost that part of the equation. Is that fair to say.
00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:52.159 Phyllis Quinlan: That's more than fair to say. In fact, I will say the 1st thing you do is care for yourself, so that you have something to be able to care for others with, and we've had that but backwards for a long time, so that what happens is people continue to give and give and give, and then they give some more, and you know they they ruminate and they they worry. And of course you're doing this out of.
00:18:52.160 --> 00:19:04.419 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, love and and unconditional love at that, and they're trying to do the best they can to take care, probably holding down a family as well, and maybe even a job. And you know, before you know it.
00:19:04.580 --> 00:19:24.819 Phyllis Quinlan: you're you're starting to act in a manner you don't even recognize yourself. You could actually like, wash your face, look in the mirror, and not know who is looking back at you because you have allowed your compassionate nature to be used up. So what's really important for those of us who are family caregivers, intermittent caregivers.
00:19:25.090 --> 00:19:38.749 Phyllis Quinlan: just good neighbors and good people, and most of all professional caregivers is that we have to understand. Our compassionate nature is a gift from the universe, and you have to treat it as the precious gift that it is.
00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:45.450 Phyllis Quinlan: and you therefore have to take really good care of yourself, so that it doesn't become something
00:19:45.600 --> 00:19:58.820 Phyllis Quinlan: too painful to access. You don't want to be worn out caring. You want to be able to ask for help. You want to be able to get respite care when that is necessary. You need to put your own oxygen on first.st
00:19:59.050 --> 00:19:59.500 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:19:59.500 --> 00:20:06.210 Phyllis Quinlan: Take care of others, and you know it's really important to do that. What I'm concerned about Frank
00:20:06.490 --> 00:20:24.579 Phyllis Quinlan: is that you know, with the recent events in Washington, and the persistent uncertainty of not knowing what's next. As far as health care coverage is concerned, what will be in 2026. What will not be in 2026. What can we count on? What can't we count on? I think what we have to do
00:20:24.700 --> 00:20:52.540 Phyllis Quinlan: in in the face of uncertainty is what we do, as I've always done it. As emergency department nurses prepare for the worst and hope for the best. So I think that we have to start to prepare and look at caregiving as a almost a secondary part-time job in the sense of it, not of taking it quite seriously, and making a list of things to do, and really
00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:58.819 Phyllis Quinlan: making sure that we have our caregiver ducks in a row, I think more and more
00:20:59.290 --> 00:21:17.870 Phyllis Quinlan: of the responsibility of caring for our aging parents or our children who need chronic care. Whoever needs chronic care. I think more and more of that responsibility is going to fall on the family, because government
00:21:18.100 --> 00:21:22.089 Phyllis Quinlan: subsidies and government support is uncertain.
00:21:22.300 --> 00:21:24.560 Phyllis Quinlan: So when it is uncertain.
00:21:24.950 --> 00:21:50.420 Phyllis Quinlan: that means that you, you know you need to get ready and and prepare for as much as you can, and if if things turn out to be well, that was all for nothing, because, you know, everything is the way we need it to be, then that's wonderful. But my concern is is that people will get blindsided with thinking that in 2026. What's what's available in 2025 will still be available. And it's not.
00:21:50.850 --> 00:22:12.009 Frank R. Harrison: Correct. In fact, you had asked me to issue a disclaimer based on the fact that it is all related to the government, and that it is so unpredictable. It's like, I don't know if even what we're talking about right now is going to change within the next hour. So let me just read it out of formality, but at the same time it emphasizes exactly what you just said.
00:22:12.870 --> 00:22:25.400 Frank R. Harrison: Due to current events. It's more important than ever that families seriously understand that the responsibility of caregiving is going to fall even more on their shoulders. Now that governmental support is even more in doubt.
00:22:25.490 --> 00:22:52.120 Frank R. Harrison: My message be prepared and hopefully frank about health going forward with episode 151 next week will help in the preparation, as I continue to put out, shows with thought leaders and influencers that are doing the very thing in not deflecting, but reacting and putting up solutions to what is being kind of carved away from government legislation that has just been passed. All right.
00:22:52.120 --> 00:23:13.919 Phyllis Quinlan: And I think that's it. So in that vein let's start talking about. What do you do when you find yourself to be an adult who is now caring for aging parents. They may be frail, they may not be frail. You also, I was reading an article just today that the largest growing segment of family caregivers are millennials.
00:23:14.510 --> 00:23:17.860 Phyllis Quinlan: Okay? So millennials are now in their late forties.
00:23:17.990 --> 00:23:45.119 Phyllis Quinlan: and and of course, younger, but they may find themselves with parents who have chronic diseases, or need care, or have been widowed or widowed, you know, that are left alone. They may find themselves in situations where they are now going to become the new generation of sandwiched caregivers, meaning they have frail, elderly family to care for or consider, and yet they are still raising their own family
00:23:45.590 --> 00:23:50.689 Phyllis Quinlan: that used to be the label they gave the baby boomers. But now, you know, it's
00:23:50.750 --> 00:24:17.869 Phyllis Quinlan: it's starting to become. It's following the millennial generation, and the gens and the Gen. X's. So the 1st thing to do all right is absolutely sit your your family down and be proactive. The best way to care for your family is to make sure they don't have an injury, or they don't have an on toward event. So I'd like to just review some things about elder care.
00:24:17.870 --> 00:24:34.829 Phyllis Quinlan: and you know, for people who are living at home, and some of the things because there's 2 reasons why people over the age of 65 get themselves or find themselves in an emergency department. One has to do with safety because they've had a fall, and they didn't see that coming
00:24:34.830 --> 00:24:54.010 Phyllis Quinlan: all right and falls in. Anybody over the age of 65 can have a lot of consequences, and the other is is they've mixed up their medications, and now have some kind of reaction. Either they have under medicated or over medicated or combined medications that they should not have combined, and now they present to the emergency department.
00:24:54.480 --> 00:25:16.610 Phyllis Quinlan: and we have to, of course, treat them and then discharge them, but sort things out. So that said, You know, really what I want to talk about, to begin with is a little bit of home safety. Okay? So you know from the get go, you really should take a look at the at your home surroundings, and I know that there are, you know.
00:25:17.970 --> 00:25:32.629 Phyllis Quinlan: memories in certain pieces of furniture, memories, and in certain and other objects in the home, and we want to not go in like gangbusters and and force people to change things around, but have to have a conversation around, maybe
00:25:33.170 --> 00:25:42.259 Phyllis Quinlan: rearranging a room, because it just makes the room flow a little bit better with less obstacles in the way of getting from one place to another.
00:25:42.530 --> 00:26:00.579 Phyllis Quinlan: Anything I'm going to suggest today. Please do it incrementally. Don't go in like slam bam. We're going to fix this. This is really something where you have to do tests of change, and just easy does it, and less is more. And then hopefully, at the end of the effort.
00:26:00.580 --> 00:26:18.719 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, you're able to make, maybe not every change or every you know intervention, but you'd be able to make some. So you know, the 1st place you want to start really is in making sure that the environment is free of certain obstacles and certain things that really can cause people to trip.
00:26:18.860 --> 00:26:38.100 Phyllis Quinlan: When you are getting older you may be steady on your feet, but your hip joints and your knee joints don't work like they used to, so we don't necessarily trip because something caught on our foot. We trip because we did not pick our foot up fully. So we literally trip over our own feet.
00:26:38.740 --> 00:27:02.069 Phyllis Quinlan: You want to make sure, number one that if you do have, and all of us over the age of 65 certainly have some arthritis and things of that nature. You know that you. You do take your arthritis medication, you do take your anti-inflammatories and things so that you are a little bit more limber and fluid, so that you can walk. If you need an assistive device, please use your assistive device.
00:27:02.070 --> 00:27:26.399 Phyllis Quinlan: That's a very big point. But things like, you know, making sure that rugs are not curling up at the edge. You know that there isn't a spill that didn't happen, that there aren't throw rugs or electrical cords or extension cords around, but really take a look as if you were trying to say if there was a toddler in the house, what could they hurt themselves on, and that I don't mean that
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:38.120 Phyllis Quinlan: in any kind of disrespect for an elder parent. I mean that you have to be that simplistic sometimes because we get so used to the environment. We don't see
00:27:38.270 --> 00:28:04.949 Phyllis Quinlan: what we're really looking at, you know. The next thing is, you just want to make sure that you know phones are accessible that you know recharging cords are accessible, and that people don't have to get up and try to find, you know something. So there, if there's a favorite chair people sit in, or a favorite area that it's it's it's it's tooled up, so to speak. You know, with the the remote for the TV, a charger for the
00:28:04.950 --> 00:28:21.280 Phyllis Quinlan: phone things that are easily accessible, so that you know, people aren't looking and straining to try to find something. If you're in the bathroom. Okay, this is where a lot of trouble happens. You want to start to consider grab bars. I recently
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:42.130 Phyllis Quinlan: redid my own bathroom, and I made sure that when we were putting in the tile around my tub first, st I purchased a tub that was extremely deep, and the reason I I purchased the deep tub is because it's easy for me to sit on that side of the tub for those people who don't necessarily use the tub. You may want to have a shower chair
00:28:42.130 --> 00:29:12.040 Phyllis Quinlan: so that you can sit while you're bathing, and of course you would have a handheld shower device to help you do that. Of course you want to have a non slip mat on the base of your tub, but you want to have grab bars, and you want to make sure that people can get in and out of that. If you're thinking of redoing, taking away the tub altogether and putting in a shower, you want to make sure that you you find a shower or a contractor that can give you what is known as a no trip entry into that shower.
00:29:12.180 --> 00:29:30.510 Phyllis Quinlan: It's real important smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors. All of these things are extremely vital to make sure, especially, you know, going into the winter months when people want to use space heaters that they may not be using. You want to make sure that they're there.
00:29:30.560 --> 00:29:46.170 Phyllis Quinlan: Consider, you know, really start to consider whether somebody needs a medical, alert bracelet or a medical alert necklace, so that if something on toward does happen, they can actually, you know, ring for their own help, especially if they're living alone.
00:29:46.240 --> 00:30:04.829 Phyllis Quinlan: You want to be careful of pets, in the sense of, you know. Pets, you know, weaving in and out of your you know of your legs as you're walking. You want to make sure that when you stand up and start to walk, you know exactly where your pet is, and that you don't trip over the pet that happens to be sleeping on your feet.
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:05.930 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:30:05.930 --> 00:30:14.190 Phyllis Quinlan: Make sure that you're using extended life light bulbs. Make sure that you are using, you know.
00:30:14.740 --> 00:30:27.139 Phyllis Quinlan: other devices that will, you know, last for a long time, and and so you don't find yourself in a position where you want to get up on a ladder and do something, you know. Silly, silly.
00:30:27.550 --> 00:30:37.649 Phyllis Quinlan: The other piece that you want to make sure of when we're talking about again. The second thing that brings people to the Emergency Department is medication administration.
00:30:37.650 --> 00:30:38.040 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.
00:30:38.040 --> 00:30:50.019 Phyllis Quinlan: More than likely, if you're over the age of 65, you are taking more than one medication. Okay? So a pillbox, a simple $5 pillbox can really help, so that you sit.
00:30:50.180 --> 00:31:12.800 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, one day a week, and you fill up whether that's a Sunday, and you're filling up the pillbox, according to the directions of what you need to do, where you're focused and concentrated, and you set yourself up for the week. So, as the week progresses. You just need need to go in and be able to take Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, whether that's your Monday morning or your Tuesday evening. It's right there.
00:31:12.830 --> 00:31:40.540 Phyllis Quinlan: I did that for my parents for years, and went there every Sunday, and made sure they were set up for this for this next week. If I wasn't there. My sister was there, but we made sure that they were taking their medications appropriately, and that they had medical alerts on them. So my mother was on a blood thinner because of her irregular heartbeat, and we made. I wanted to make sure she was wearing that medical alert, that God forbid! She fell, and my father needed to call 911 as soon as
00:31:40.540 --> 00:31:50.600 Phyllis Quinlan: Ms. Arrived they would know she's on a blood thinner, which means that her fall can probably be a little bit more dangerous than just a simple bump and bruise.
00:31:50.750 --> 00:31:55.490 Phyllis Quinlan: Okay, so these things are are really really important. If we go back to the bathroom.
00:31:55.610 --> 00:32:04.829 Phyllis Quinlan: One of the things you want to understand is as you get older, you start to lose your perception of color, and you start to, you see, black and white a little bit more
00:32:06.010 --> 00:32:13.419 Phyllis Quinlan: so. Most of the fixtures in bathrooms are white, and then sometimes you might even have white floors.
00:32:13.620 --> 00:32:39.690 Phyllis Quinlan: so that if you think of a white floor and a white toilet, you know, is it possible for you to try to sit on the toilet and miss, it's highly possible for that. I found this out quite by accident in a restaurant when my mother was trying to go use the toilet. I was in the stall helping her, and I was right there, and she started to go off to the side, and I said to her, Where are you going? Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! And she said, Oh, I didn't see it.
00:32:39.860 --> 00:32:44.440 Phyllis Quinlan: and that's when I realized there was nothing there to create depth, perception.
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:44.880 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:48.728 Phyllis Quinlan: So, if they may not be the most
00:32:49.840 --> 00:32:57.590 Phyllis Quinlan: design friendly choice for your bathroom, but having a dark color toilet seat, whether it's brown or black
00:32:57.740 --> 00:33:07.299 Phyllis Quinlan: can really help for you to be able to focus on that toilet seat so that you are sitting yourself safely. It sounds like a little thing, but it turns out to be a big one.
00:33:07.670 --> 00:33:22.679 Frank R. Harrison: We're going to have to take our break behind the scenes. We were going to show another segment. Let's skip that we're going to go to the final segment that we've planned at the end of the show, and we'll just go right into segment. 3 as planned. Thanks again, Jesse, for all your support. But we need to
00:33:22.760 --> 00:33:49.369 Frank R. Harrison: move forward as we're evolving. But you did an actual list that I think needs to be seen. So I wanted it to continue the way it is. After all, we are moving forward. And yes, everybody who wants to see the in-depth documentary can see. So on Youtube, when I announced the date over the weekend, that all being said, please stay tuned right here on talkradio, dot Nyc. And on all of our socials, as we celebrate Frank about health at 1 50 we'll be back in a few.
00:35:50.630 --> 00:36:03.989 www.TalkRadio.nyc: One of the other things you you allude to or speak about in Chapter 10 is perhaps it's time, for, you know, policy changes. Significant policy changes that might
00:36:03.990 --> 00:36:25.340 www.TalkRadio.nyc: bring in the Federal Government even a little bit more, and I know that, especially in this day and age, it might be a little controversial. I was wondering if you were alluding to the Yale study from 2020 that showed that there would be a significant, a significant health care, savings and health care, improvement. If we had a medicare for all
00:36:25.340 --> 00:36:47.739 www.TalkRadio.nyc: that, it would lower cost, it would make pharmaceutical products much more reasonable because we could negotiate differently, it would make access different, you know. And and are those some of the policy changes you're you're speaking about in Chapter 10, and if not, what are exactly. What were you trying to to address?
00:36:48.260 --> 00:37:02.280 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Well, those are the kind of policy changes I'm thinking about. They have gotten so politicized over many years. So universal health was an approach discussed back in the early 1990. S. It got, just.
00:37:03.010 --> 00:37:10.010 www.TalkRadio.nyc: you know, tarred and feathered and sent out of town. The next version was Medicare, for all which.
00:37:10.150 --> 00:37:11.959 www.TalkRadio.nyc: basically the same concept.
00:37:12.710 --> 00:37:24.430 www.TalkRadio.nyc: What what I'm going to suggest, what I try to suggest is, well, I didn't call it this in the book. But it's basically longitudinal health care that everybody has some level of health care.
00:37:24.550 --> 00:37:28.250 www.TalkRadio.nyc: And that's perfectly possible.
00:37:28.390 --> 00:37:30.879 www.TalkRadio.nyc: And it doesn't mean that we're going to have
00:37:33.200 --> 00:37:42.430 www.TalkRadio.nyc: governmentized health care for everybody. It means that there's a basal level, and people get primary care, and they get the medications they need at prices that are reasonable.
00:37:42.580 --> 00:37:55.110 www.TalkRadio.nyc: And when you look around a lot of different health, a lot of our peers, almost all of them, have some level of this, and I'm going to take one that always surprises people, which is Denmark. Denmark gets great
00:37:55.820 --> 00:38:03.539 www.TalkRadio.nyc: kudos for kudos, for it's it's Federal sponsored healthcare.
00:38:03.750 --> 00:38:20.560 www.TalkRadio.nyc: But it like so many other countries. What's not talked about is that a large portion of the population also buys supplemental insurance on top of that, and that's the case almost everywhere it varies how much in Uk and Canada, Sweden, Denmark.
00:38:21.170 --> 00:38:24.199 www.TalkRadio.nyc: other countries. But so it's not saying that
00:38:25.030 --> 00:38:41.840 www.TalkRadio.nyc: the Government needs to take over all the health care. It's saying that what the government does is provide. It's able to look at the long run, so the government doesn't see an roi on building highways. It doesn't see an roi in a year or 2. It doesn't see an roi in providing clean water.
00:38:47.090 --> 00:39:05.930 Frank R. Harrison: Incredible. You know, it's funny the way that we plan the show versus the way it comes out. I think it's better, you know, because, of course, maybe with with the way things have been. All I have is the catalog of shows that I've presented, and I keep reflecting on them. When Marshall Runji was a true pivot point, I think, for both of us.
00:39:06.010 --> 00:39:09.389 Frank R. Harrison: You know, we were supposed to show actually, the
00:39:09.450 --> 00:39:33.809 Frank R. Harrison: you know, different organizations that we've worked with Judy Mandel being one of them, and even some information from Dr. Jennifer Griggs. But they're much, very, very much involved in the very same things that Marshall Renji is talking about, which is, all of us are now banding together to do what we can to advocate for health care just like that long list that you provided in the Last Segment. We need this information because we're not going to get it otherwise.
00:39:33.870 --> 00:39:46.010 Frank R. Harrison: And I think that's part of the challenge that I think at 1st it's like, Oh, no, I'm not doing something right, but the reality is by making the mistakes and letting it all come out when it's supposed to is the what people need right now. Correct.
00:39:46.700 --> 00:39:59.500 Phyllis Quinlan: I think I yes, I agree. Correct. I I think we're we're in in some cases, and I I know that I would have loved to have had more time to go to, to suggest more things than the last segment. But
00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:06.450 Phyllis Quinlan: you know there there is. There's going to be a rude reckoning with
00:40:06.620 --> 00:40:11.489 Phyllis Quinlan: what's going to be available for us in 2026
00:40:11.610 --> 00:40:22.519 Phyllis Quinlan: versus what's available in 2025. And the only thing that I can share is that when we had the prior to the great economic decline, we had in 2,007
00:40:23.150 --> 00:40:24.359 Phyllis Quinlan: prior to that.
00:40:25.160 --> 00:40:34.670 Phyllis Quinlan: when I was the chief nursing officer of subacute care, facilities, and things of that nature. I could work with my discharge planners, and we could get
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:38.770 Phyllis Quinlan: care home, care for people when they were discharged.
00:40:38.950 --> 00:40:57.169 Phyllis Quinlan: and it wasn't unusual for us to be able to get people to qualify for 12 h shifts 7 days a week, and you know the the adult children who are responsible for that frail elder person could live their lives, they could go to work, and the person was being cared for safely and safe surroundings.
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:03.580 Phyllis Quinlan: When the economic downturn hit in 2,007, now leapfrogged to 2,008
00:41:04.220 --> 00:41:08.850 Phyllis Quinlan: people were looking for that same level of assistance
00:41:09.750 --> 00:41:19.169 Phyllis Quinlan: on with the discharge of their family, you know, after a broken hip, or a stroke, or whatever, and that existence did not that level of of assistance did not.
00:41:19.290 --> 00:41:27.239 Phyllis Quinlan: It just wasn't there anymore. And the fact now that the most that people will qualify for and the most that's available
00:41:27.340 --> 00:41:38.769 Phyllis Quinlan: is, you might get 2 or 3 days of home health care, assistance for 4 HA day, so you might get 12 HA week, not 12 HA day.
00:41:39.740 --> 00:42:04.420 Phyllis Quinlan: and I remember my my discharge planners being extremely upset, that you know the families were accusing them of not caring, or, you know, not doing their job, and I would have to step in and say, it's not that they don't care, and of course they of course they care. Of course they're doing their job. The services are no longer available because of the economic crash. I want people to be proactive and ready for
00:42:04.420 --> 00:42:10.229 Phyllis Quinlan: may happen. We don't know what's going to happen, what may happen in 2026,
00:42:10.230 --> 00:42:15.739 Phyllis Quinlan: right? So I think we're going to be hit with even more of a reckoning of a of
00:42:15.740 --> 00:42:22.609 Phyllis Quinlan: less support available and more responsibility placed on the individuals.
00:42:23.330 --> 00:42:27.679 Phyllis Quinlan: Right? And you need to make sure that you've got paperwork
00:42:27.900 --> 00:42:56.380 Phyllis Quinlan: ducks in a row that you are. If your family is still living independently, that you are looking that environment and making sure it is safe. So they decrease the risk of an on toward event happening that could put them in the hospital, make sure their medications are being taken care of. Make sure they have support to, you know, in the in terms of an emergency necklace or emergency bracelet things that we need to put in place. Make sure there's a will. Make sure there is advance directives.
00:42:56.940 --> 00:43:16.509 Phyllis Quinlan: Have the crucial conversation with your parents about what they want and what they don't want. You know most living wills that I see are useless, and or I see advance directive documents, and it says my family knows my wishes. It says nothing else than my family knows my wishes.
00:43:16.660 --> 00:43:27.599 Phyllis Quinlan: and I'm here to tell you. Family doesn't know the wishes. And what happens is that there's an argument now, and at a time when a family needs to come together to embrace the care of their frail elder, adult
00:43:27.860 --> 00:43:29.190 Phyllis Quinlan: or child.
00:43:29.310 --> 00:43:41.710 Phyllis Quinlan: They haven't had the conversation to have peace of mind that the direct that the decisions have already been made by that person. They have already made self-determination decisions.
00:43:41.890 --> 00:43:49.230 Phyllis Quinlan: and all they're asking you to do is ensure that they are carried through. They're not asking you to make the decision for them.
00:43:49.560 --> 00:43:55.389 Phyllis Quinlan: Okay, they have already made it for themselves, and all you have to do is make sure that they're complied with
00:43:55.520 --> 00:44:05.709 Phyllis Quinlan: when you don't have a will, and you don't have an advance directive, and you don't have these crucial conversations. Then you are going to go to the universe, and and
00:44:05.913 --> 00:44:10.729 Phyllis Quinlan: that's true, just fine, all right, but your family is going to be left with a mess.
00:44:11.040 --> 00:44:12.309 Frank R. Harrison: Correct, and now.
00:44:12.310 --> 00:44:13.410 Phyllis Quinlan: Not okay.
00:44:13.410 --> 00:44:27.390 Frank R. Harrison: Let's talk about before we go into our final break about an individual while on this earth, and is still on this earth. By the way went through a mess, and it was because of his drive and recovery from sobriety
00:44:27.390 --> 00:44:57.359 Frank R. Harrison: that he was able to make a complete, magnificent success of himself, including with his love of music, the creativity. So we're going to close with the segment of that, to exemplify what you're saying, because we all have to be aware of all the necessary paperwork for our seniors. But we're going to show of an individual who really took the bootstraps and made it all happen. He can be a role model and influencer for all of us caregivers as well as advocates, and then we'll go to break and return for our final segment.
00:44:57.850 --> 00:44:59.030 Frank R. Harrison: Take it away, Jesse.
00:45:02.130 --> 00:45:24.499 www.TalkRadio.nyc: That's yesterday there is on the John Beyer Spotify playlist. There is a live live a little better with all of the songs that had the titles for every chapter. So we have white Room, by Clapton. We have piano man by Billy Joel. We have, I can see clearly now by by Nash. We have
00:45:24.500 --> 00:45:46.309 www.TalkRadio.nyc: people by Barbara Streisand. We have all that on the playlist, the 12 Songs. By the way, it was 12. There's 12 chapters in the book, which is a complete accident that was not meant. You know I didn't plan to have 12 chapters like there are 12 steps. That was Kismet. That was a little I was like, oh, that's a little scary. I like that. I like that
00:48:07.460 --> 00:48:27.750 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Intentionality is the key to everything in my mind, including what we were talking about earlier in regulating our central nervous system. Right? We all breathe. If we're not breathing, we're dead right. But when you intentionally focus
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.740 www.TalkRadio.nyc: on your breathing and you can shift
00:48:31.910 --> 00:48:36.770 www.TalkRadio.nyc: how you're breathing. You can then shift your central nervous system.
00:48:41.990 --> 00:48:43.050 Frank R. Harrison: All right.
00:48:43.340 --> 00:48:59.199 Frank R. Harrison: Well, ladies and gentlemen, that is a hint of who is joining the network. Starting next Wednesday at my time. Slot 5 Pm. Siobhan Laurice, who was on frank about health, discussing building resilience, and now she has an entire platform defined from there and
00:48:59.250 --> 00:49:23.270 Frank R. Harrison: speaking about legacies in terms of talkradio dot Nyc. As well as frank about health. My very 1st guest, Danielle Swanson, has just joined us, I guess, pretty much to commemorate 150 episodes, or also to reconnect. I don't think I've seen you in about 6 months, but ironically, we have an anniversary to celebrate. We met 16 years ago, the end of July.
00:49:23.520 --> 00:49:26.379 Frank R. Harrison: you know, actually end of June.
00:49:26.810 --> 00:49:28.529 Phyllis Quinlan: You're on mute, Danielle, you're on mute.
00:49:28.530 --> 00:49:30.510 Danielle: Yes, I just realized that.
00:49:30.510 --> 00:49:31.690 Frank R. Harrison: I'm doing it from.
00:49:31.690 --> 00:49:37.839 Danielle: My phone today, which is brand new for me. Very exciting. So yeah, congratulations, Frank. I'm very excited for you.
00:49:37.840 --> 00:50:06.339 Frank R. Harrison: Thank you. Thank you. I mean, I'm just thankful, even though you know, we you know the history of having our share of technical difficulties today was not so much technical difficulties, but they actually worked for the advantage of the tribute. I call this episode Frank, about health at 150 tributes, and I think there's another word behind it. I can't think of it right now, but the point is is that, having live interaction with Phyllis, you know, commemorating what we've done together.
00:50:06.340 --> 00:50:20.980 Frank R. Harrison: having live interaction with you, commemorating Ritha, showing segments of the documentary which you were very much involved in simultaneously showing what we're doing now and going forward and advocating using this show how it evolved
00:50:20.980 --> 00:50:40.499 Frank R. Harrison: from just talking about epilepsy as we did in episode one to how we can all work together and collaborate, and not only look out for our own health needs, but at the same time use that reserve of energy to do the best caregiving with the right information which I really am dedicated towards moving Frank about health
00:50:40.500 --> 00:50:53.139 Frank R. Harrison: forward, starting in episode 151 next week. But I'm glad that I'm able to use this as a tribute point to reflect, and also start generating future ideas with people that helped start it with me.
00:50:53.340 --> 00:50:54.150 Frank R. Harrison: so
00:50:54.590 --> 00:51:22.789 Frank R. Harrison: that, all being said, I loved exactly what you said, Phyllis. Also just now, prior to us, showing the clip with John Beyer, that you know, it's the whole nature of being able to gather all the resources that we need for our for ourself and for our loved ones. But I gather one question that was left behind before the break was, what happens when the information you're getting cannot really be tested, and you're not sure if it's accurate.
00:51:22.870 --> 00:51:30.010 Frank R. Harrison: What do you do to rely upon the verification before you know it's what you need in your caregiving or in caring for yourself.
00:51:31.070 --> 00:51:49.560 Phyllis Quinlan: Well, I think that's why you need to have a little bit of a caregiver reference tribe around you. You know you have to read. You know, you have to go to trusted sources on the Internet. And I'm not talking about, you know, quasi medical things where you know people are.
00:51:50.390 --> 00:52:13.349 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, trying to act like physicians without having to go to medical school. I'm I'm talking about using reliable resources. You know, things that are posted on websites. The American Medical Association has really taken up the slack of posting a lot of things on their website that the Government has taken off of other reliable websites like the Cdc.
00:52:13.380 --> 00:52:21.879 Phyllis Quinlan: And other government agencies. They've really wiped those those sites clean of very, very vital.
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:50.539 Phyllis Quinlan: patient education and resources. I understand. Now there's been a court order for them to restore all that information on those various sites, but Lord knows if that will happen, or how long it will take. So the American Medical Association website is important, having a conversation and a relationship with your private physician or your private license provider that might be a PA might be a nurse practitioner. These are all important things. Make friends with your pharmacist.
00:52:50.850 --> 00:53:05.890 Phyllis Quinlan: absolutely make friends with your pharmacist. Let your pharmacist know that you know something's not quite right with the medication. They can quickly look at what medications you're taking, and make sure that you only use one pharmacist. I don't care about sales or anything else like that.
00:53:05.890 --> 00:53:33.580 Phyllis Quinlan: One pharmacist will keep you healthy because you have multiple physicians, and it is your neighborhood pharmacist that's going to make sure that those medications that Dr. A. Is ordering are compatible with the medications Dr. B. Is ordering, and those pharmacists will reach out to those physicians to make sure that they can clarify orders or realize they have ordered redundant medication that could actually wind up with a medication reaction. So multiple doctors.
00:53:33.730 --> 00:53:38.580 Phyllis Quinlan: perhaps one pharmacist is absolutely essential to keep you healthy.
00:53:38.820 --> 00:53:47.799 Frank R. Harrison: Right, and, Danny, thanks to your father and your sister, who have both been on the show as well. They've been giving not only their own. Take on
00:53:47.810 --> 00:54:09.020 Frank R. Harrison: sports, medicine as well as social work counseling. I know your sister deals with horse therapy as well. Simultaneously. Your father, involved in all the financial aspects of healthcare, innovation and insurance. I mean, it's an entire ecosystem that I think the last 150 episodes together
00:54:09.120 --> 00:54:38.209 Frank R. Harrison: has brought to frank about health. I believe it or not, we're almost over with the show. But that, all being said, I just want to again. Thank you, Phyllis, for helping me run through the narrative of the last 150 episodes. We know that Marshall Runji played a big part in turning the tide for the direction of the show, not to mention what's going on in our government has pushed that tide. So we're trying to do what we can to to work with it, not combat it, but work with it.
00:54:38.210 --> 00:55:05.820 Frank R. Harrison: I think. Going forward. Danny, you and I need to talk about having a reunion show on on Frank about health, maybe in August or September, and then, Phyllis, you know I will be reaching out to you. We have another show on the air coming on at 6 o'clock. We're going to close with the closing credits of our documentary. And then what I'm going to do is Phyllis. I will call you back as soon as the show goes off the air. And, Danny, I will call you back as well. Is that okay?
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:07.300 Danielle: Sounds, great.
00:55:07.300 --> 00:55:13.471 Frank R. Harrison: All right. But any last minute words before we go to the credits, because I feel bad that you came in. And now it's time to go.
00:55:14.319 --> 00:55:18.649 Danielle: No, that's I think I pretty much covered it in the short time we had
00:55:18.790 --> 00:55:21.870 Danielle: all that needs to be done for now, when there's always time later.
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:48.720 Frank R. Harrison: Well, ladies and gentlemen, what you're seeing on one side of the screen is my 1st guest, and on the final side my current and always favorite co-host, Phyllis Quinlan. Thank you, Jesse, behind the scenes. For all of this I want to give a shout out to Sam Leibowitz and Emily Shulman for the last 150 episodes. I want to remind everybody. The documentary being frank for a healthy future will be released on Youtube within a week's time. I will provide more information when that time comes.
00:55:48.720 --> 00:55:53.980 Frank R. Harrison: And ladies and gentlemen enjoy the end credits. And I will see you all next week
00:56:00.050 --> 00:56:02.719 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Once you start working with him.
00:56:03.090 --> 00:56:08.149 www.TalkRadio.nyc: you enjoy him so much, you enjoy his mission. You see, he's so talented.
00:56:08.810 --> 00:56:18.569 www.TalkRadio.nyc: There, there's just he has a magnetism about him that even though I was stepping away or stepping aside.
00:56:18.740 --> 00:56:20.830 www.TalkRadio.nyc: I wasn't stepping out.
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.590 www.TalkRadio.nyc: One of the exciting things about
00:56:27.030 --> 00:56:52.809 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Frank about health is that he believes in health care as I do. He believes there is so much more to physical health. There is so much more to who we are as human beings and the immune system. And he knows this, and which was really exciting. I've done many, many podcasts, literally hundreds of podcasts. But this was so exciting because
00:56:53.010 --> 00:56:58.200 www.TalkRadio.nyc: he understands there is so much more to health.
00:56:58.610 --> 00:57:22.490 www.TalkRadio.nyc: I think Frank R. Harrison is a badass. He's 1 of my heroes. I think Frank's just his name right. Being frank about health means that we're talking about things that maybe haven't been talked about before, and the fact that he's a conduit and a creator of those conversations to me earns him the term of magician and sage.
00:57:22.600 --> 00:57:24.570 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Thank you.
00:57:24.570 --> 00:57:25.060 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Nice.
00:57:25.060 --> 00:57:27.460 www.TalkRadio.nyc: It's Frank.
00:57:28.070 --> 00:57:31.670 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Frank is one of those kind of guys that he's lived life.
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:39.819 www.TalkRadio.nyc: He's quirky, he's colorful. He's he's frank.
00:57:41.710 --> 00:57:46.629 www.TalkRadio.nyc: My opinion about Frank. He is an amazing gentleman
00:57:46.870 --> 00:57:51.649 www.TalkRadio.nyc: who really has the heart to
00:57:53.170 --> 00:57:56.499 www.TalkRadio.nyc: bring to light a lot of things that people
00:57:57.160 --> 00:58:16.350 www.TalkRadio.nyc: may be unaware of. That he is exceptionally generous. I've never met somebody who is so generous with his time, and so welcoming. And you know he just immediately invites you in, and that is not
00:58:16.961 --> 00:58:22.239 www.TalkRadio.nyc: something. You always see, most people are guarded, you know, most people sort of
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.493 www.TalkRadio.nyc: come come to a situation.
00:58:26.540 --> 00:58:34.600 www.TalkRadio.nyc: you know, understandably. So, taking a lot of time to build trust and but but he's such a open book, I think.
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