EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam welcomes Globally Recognized Thought Leader, #1 International Bestselling Author, and Visionary Founder, Teresa de Grosbois.
Teresa is the visionary founder of the Evolutionary Business Council and the Vista Mundo Intentional Community in Costa Rica. With a profound commitment to conscious living and the power of authentic connection, Teresa has dedicated her life's work to creating spaces and frameworks that empower individuals to thrive in harmony with themselves, each other, and the natural world.
For years, Teresa cultivated a significant international presence through her personal brand, becoming a sought-after speaker and mentor in the realms of influence, leadership, and personal development. Her work has touched countless lives, guiding individuals to unlock their potential and live more purposeful lives.
Are you seeking a life brimming with ease, joy, and profound purpose? This week on The Conscious Consultant Hour, we invite you to explore Vista Mundo, an extraordinary conscious community in Costa Rica. Discover how this intentional oasis is not just a place to live, but a blueprint for conscious evolution, fostering authentic connection, sustainable practices, and the daily support needed to truly thrive. If you're ready to redefine your life and embrace a future aligned with your highest self, this conversation offers a powerful glimpse into what's possible.
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In this segment of The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam Liebowitz discusses the theme of loneliness, emphasizing that it is a universal experience we all face at different points in life, often stemming from loss or disconnection. He shares a personal story of dealing with loneliness while alone in Colorado, highlighting the importance of acknowledging and feeling our emotions rather than avoiding them. Sam encourages listeners to cultivate self-compassion and embrace moments of solitude to better understand and heal from feelings of loneliness, fostering a deeper connection with themselves.
In this segment, Teresa de Grosbois shares her journey of creating the Vista Mundo intentional community in Costa Rica, discussing the vision for living a more sustainable and connected life. She highlights the unique experience of moving to Costa Rica, emphasizing the beauty of the land and the strong sense of community that has emerged. Teresa also reflects on the challenges of adapting to a new environment, including learning the language and living more like the locals, but ultimately finding joy in the simplicity and connection with the land.
In this segment, Teresa de Grosbois updates listeners on the growth of Vista Mundo, an intentional community in Costa Rica, including the addition of new members and a renewed focus on sustainable building. She discusses the community's approach to conscious living, including flexible guidelines for building and a commitment to emotional work and environmental sustainability. Teresa also shares the importance of maintaining healthy communication, supporting one another, and embracing vulnerability to create a thriving, harmonious community.
In this segment, Teresa de Grosbois provides practical information for anyone interested in joining the Vista Mundo community in Costa Rica. She shares that lots range from $50,000 to $140,000, with options for smaller or larger properties, and the cost to build varies depending on materials, with more affordable options like Aircrete domes at around $50 per square foot. She also highlights the lower cost of living, with food being much cheaper if you shop locally, while some imported goods and cars can be more expensive. Teresa encourages potential movers to connect with like-minded individuals and take advantage of the resources provided by the Vista Mundo community.
00:00:43.950 --> 00:01:12.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Welcome to another edition of the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We've got a wonderful show in store for you with a wonderful guest, a very dear friend of mine, who I've known for a long time. I'm very excited to bring her on. But first, st of course, we have my blog post
00:01:12.740 --> 00:01:14.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: from a couple of years ago.
00:01:14.630 --> 00:01:30.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and this one again. I think it's kind of apropos for what we're going to be talking about today. And this blog post is about loneliness, and the title is healing. Loneliness takes time, patience, and courage.
00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:38.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all experience difficult feelings as much as we avoid them. They are still here
00:01:38.780 --> 00:01:42.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we are alone, we often feel lonely.
00:01:43.140 --> 00:01:48.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The funny thing is, we're not alone in experiencing this.
00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:54.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all experience loneliness at different points in our lives.
00:01:55.450 --> 00:02:01.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It can arise from loss, alienation, or a sense of disconnection.
00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all face loneliness in different ways.
00:02:06.050 --> 00:02:12.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sometimes we just distract ourselves, other times we sink into depression.
00:02:13.720 --> 00:02:19.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet the best thing we can do is usually the last thing we do
00:02:20.570 --> 00:02:25.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which is to acknowledge it and allow ourselves to just feel it.
00:02:26.370 --> 00:02:36.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It may seem counterintuitive, but by facing our loneliness. We can begin to understand why we feel that way.
00:02:37.050 --> 00:02:43.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can feel into the root cause and learn to be present to it.
00:02:44.300 --> 00:02:47.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Then we can work towards healing it.
00:02:48.490 --> 00:02:58.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we take the time to reflect on our emotions, we can explore the deeper layers of that loneliness.
00:02:59.100 --> 00:03:04.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: One layer at a time, as we are ready to face each of them.
00:03:05.610 --> 00:03:13.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can engage in the process gradually. We do not have to tackle it all of it right away.
00:03:13.790 --> 00:03:20.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just like dipping our toe in the water. We can release a little bit of the pain at a time.
00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:26.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: facing what comes up one step at a time.
00:03:28.490 --> 00:03:36.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sometimes we just feel like reaching out to someone we feel safe talking to about our feelings.
00:03:36.380 --> 00:03:42.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sharing our experiences with a trusted friend, family member, or therapist.
00:03:43.590 --> 00:03:50.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They all can provide support and help alleviate the discomfort of loneliness.
00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:57.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Remember, it's okay to ask for help and seek connection.
00:03:58.760 --> 00:04:07.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet it is still important to create moments of solitude where we can be with ourselves without distractions.
00:04:08.620 --> 00:04:16.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for when we engage in activities that bring us joy, we allow ourselves to connect with our inner self.
00:04:16.790 --> 00:04:24.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This can be anything from reading a book, practicing mindfulness, meditating or going for a walk
00:04:25.930 --> 00:04:34.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: by nurturing a positive relationship with ourselves. We can develop a sense of true self-comfort
00:04:36.060 --> 00:04:40.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which can reduce the fear and pain of being alone.
00:04:41.530 --> 00:04:45.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Healing from loneliness takes time and patience.
00:04:46.410 --> 00:04:51.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being kind to ourselves throughout the process is most important.
00:04:52.550 --> 00:04:58.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for we do have the strength to overcome it, knowing that
00:04:58.840 --> 00:05:04.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can cultivate the courage to truly face our loneliness.
00:05:08.410 --> 00:05:14.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I wrote this blog post a couple of years ago.
00:05:15.145 --> 00:05:21.235 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Actually, when my wife was away in in China, she, her her sister, had
00:05:21.870 --> 00:05:24.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: gotten sick, and she went out to see her.
00:05:24.970 --> 00:05:28.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so I was by myself for for about a month.
00:05:30.200 --> 00:05:34.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and, as I mentioned last week last week's blog post.
00:05:34.650 --> 00:05:50.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, I was out in Colorado on a trip. She got the phone call from her niece, decided she need to go. So after a few days together in in Colorado. She was off to China, and I was still in Colorado, cause you know I had.
00:05:52.782 --> 00:05:57.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Commitments house sitting commitment. So I spent the rest of the time alone.
00:06:00.250 --> 00:06:05.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it was kind of interesting that experience for me, because
00:06:08.590 --> 00:06:17.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I encountered my loneliness, because, being away, and I was in a beautiful place, and it was wonderful.
00:06:18.630 --> 00:06:27.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but it was unexpected like. It was unexpected for me to be mind myself out there, and so
00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:32.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I could feel the loneliness of being alone.
00:06:33.910 --> 00:06:38.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but I was able to sit with it. I was able to be okay with it.
00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:43.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I would go for a walk, walking the dog I was taking care of.
00:06:43.850 --> 00:06:49.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I would just be by myself. I went out to restaurants and ate dinner by myself, which I usually don't do.
00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:55.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I just allowed myself to be present to that feeling.
00:06:57.730 --> 00:07:04.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you know there's this old adage that
00:07:04.730 --> 00:07:12.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just because you're alone doesn't mean you have to be lonely, and
00:07:13.350 --> 00:07:15.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was really able to sit with it.
00:07:17.390 --> 00:07:20.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and even though I was feeling lonely.
00:07:21.840 --> 00:07:30.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it wasn't all the time, and it was sort of like, the more I gave time and space to be present to it to acknowledge it.
00:07:32.250 --> 00:07:34.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it reminded me of how
00:07:35.230 --> 00:07:39.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, when I was a kid. I didn't have a lot of friends.
00:07:39.610 --> 00:07:48.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and my my sister and brother they're both older than me. They were off, you know, out of the house most of the time with their friends.
00:07:49.080 --> 00:07:50.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so I.
00:07:50.630 --> 00:07:56.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This lonely feeling was a very familiar one for me.
00:07:58.540 --> 00:08:02.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but somehow this time I was just able to hold it in a way
00:08:04.070 --> 00:08:09.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that I hadn't been able to hold it before. And I think that's from all the
00:08:09.880 --> 00:08:17.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: all the personal work, all the inner healing work that I've been doing over the last, you know, 1015, 20 years.
00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:22.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so.
00:08:22.790 --> 00:08:29.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of course, when when I left Colorado and I came back home, and she was still going to be away for another 3 weeks or so.
00:08:29.940 --> 00:08:32.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being home, it was a little more comforting.
00:08:33.110 --> 00:08:37.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I didn't feel quite as lonely as I did, being away without her.
00:08:44.030 --> 00:08:55.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I was able to care for myself, to comfort myself and the loneliness while
00:08:55.620 --> 00:08:59.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it was uncomfortable. It wasn't devastating. It wasn't.
00:09:01.300 --> 00:09:07.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. It didn't send me into a depression. It didn't send me into a deep negative place.
00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:14.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was more. Just this is what I'm feeling right now. I'm holding myself. I'm holding the space for it.
00:09:15.910 --> 00:09:17.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it's okay.
00:09:18.550 --> 00:09:22.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to me, that was just a big lesson in that.
00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:26.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: even when we come across uncomfortable feelings.
00:09:27.780 --> 00:09:40.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's really the story that we make around it that causes us our suffering, and I guess that was the real shift or change for me. I didn't make a story around being alone.
00:09:42.150 --> 00:09:47.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. It was just. It was unexpected. It was what was in the moment.
00:09:47.500 --> 00:09:50.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so I just decided to stay with it.
00:09:51.780 --> 00:09:55.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I was able to enjoy myself being alone.
00:09:56.160 --> 00:10:00.255 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was in a beautiful place, and
00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:06.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it was really an interesting experience.
00:10:07.700 --> 00:10:09.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but it did teach me that
00:10:10.610 --> 00:10:21.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we have the courage to face these uncomfortable emotions, when we have the courage to open up and give him time and space, and just be present to it
00:10:21.920 --> 00:10:27.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that it doesn't have to control our life. It doesn't have to.
00:10:27.900 --> 00:10:35.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It doesn't have to overwhelm us. It doesn't have to send us into a place that doesn't work for us.
00:10:38.670 --> 00:10:42.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so for me, that was a big lesson.
00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:44.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so that's
00:10:45.410 --> 00:10:50.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: why I wrote this blog post because I wanted to share that lesson with all of you.
00:10:52.520 --> 00:10:53.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:10:53.400 --> 00:10:55.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I'd love to know what?
00:10:55.350 --> 00:11:07.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How you feel about it, because I do feel like there is an epidemic of loneliness right now. Ever since the pandemic, I think we're more disconnected. We're more separated. We're we're less
00:11:08.980 --> 00:11:23.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: involved with other people. I kind of feel in general, at least in the people that I work with. I just find their thirsting, thirsting for community. So much so. I'd love to hear about your experiences with the loneliness.
00:11:23.570 --> 00:11:43.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post. It's entitled Healing Loneliness takes time, patience and courage. And of course you can always find my blogs on my personally branded website, theconsciousconsultant.com, or, of course, on the station website, talkradio dot nyc slash, blog.
00:11:44.730 --> 00:11:59.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show globally recognized thought Leader number one internationally bestselling author and visionary founder, Teresa Degrobois, and of course, most importantly, my friend
00:12:00.010 --> 00:12:24.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Teresa is the visionary founder of the Evolutionary Business council and the Vista Mundo, intentional community in Costa Rica with a profound commitment to conscious living and the power of authentic connection. Teresa has dedicated her life to creating spaces and frameworks that empower individuals to thrive in harmony with themselves, each other and the natural world.
00:12:24.030 --> 00:12:49.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For years Teresa cultivated significant international presence through her personal brand, becoming a sought after speaker and mentor in the realms of influence, leadership, and personal development. Her work has touched countless lives, mine included, guiding individuals to unlock their potential and live more purposeful lives. Welcome to the conscious consultant. Welcome back, I should say, to the conscious consultant hour, Teresa.
00:12:49.950 --> 00:12:57.699 Teresa de Grosbois: Thank you, Sam. It's just always a joy to be here. And oh, my God, what a perfect blog post that you started with this morning! I just.
00:12:57.700 --> 00:13:03.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I know, I know, and it's like I'm just taking them in order, but somehow they always seem so perfect.
00:13:03.980 --> 00:13:04.350 Teresa de Grosbois: No.
00:13:05.400 --> 00:13:19.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So you're sitting there in beautiful Costa Rica for all those listening to the podcast who aren't seeing the live stream, she's got the gorgeous tree in her background. And she's in this beautiful area of Costa Rica.
00:13:19.670 --> 00:13:24.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How did you end up? A nice girl from Canada like yourself end up in Costa Rica?
00:13:25.540 --> 00:13:28.220 Teresa de Grosbois: You know, I just got sick of winter.
00:13:28.220 --> 00:13:29.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Aha!
00:13:29.800 --> 00:13:35.600 Teresa de Grosbois: Actually, the longer story is one of my best friends and I were talking one day about
00:13:35.730 --> 00:13:47.751 Teresa de Grosbois: wouldn't it be fun to create a community somewhere, you know. And you know, because, especially as you start to get upwards in age, you start to realize loneliness. You know what you were talking about in in your
00:13:48.350 --> 00:13:52.980 Teresa de Grosbois: Your blog post. Is that an epidemic level in North America? Because
00:13:53.170 --> 00:14:00.279 Teresa de Grosbois: a lot of North Americans and Europeans, we've held this ideal of giving our children wings and teaching them to fly.
00:14:00.510 --> 00:14:01.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hi.
00:14:02.190 --> 00:14:05.149 Teresa de Grosbois: That we end up living alone in our later years. You.
00:14:05.150 --> 00:14:05.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:06.180 Teresa de Grosbois: And
00:14:06.880 --> 00:14:23.780 Teresa de Grosbois: And so I was talking with this friend, and we were saying, well, you know, maybe we just need to create a community of friends. So we've got the support and the community we need. And and as soon as we started talking about it, everybody started saying, Costa Rica was funny. We were thinking we'd do it in Canada. And then and then we started thinking, Well.
00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:40.809 Teresa de Grosbois: why are we doing it in Canada where there's 8 months of winter. Why don't we go to Paradise and do the community? So the thinking shifted pretty rapidly, and everything fell into place actually, very quickly, in terms of bringing us down here and having us see how amazing it is here in.
00:14:40.810 --> 00:14:41.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: History.
00:14:41.570 --> 00:14:45.309 Teresa de Grosbois: It's a beautiful, beautiful place to think about spending your later years.
00:14:45.500 --> 00:14:53.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow! Wonderful! And and how long ago was that that you went down to Costa Rica for the 1st time and started looking for property and stuff.
00:14:53.720 --> 00:15:03.580 Teresa de Grosbois: That was about 7, 8 years ago now. And yeah, it's it's interesting. It all kind of fell into place quickly. But I think that's part of consciousness, you know, when.
00:15:03.580 --> 00:15:04.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:15:04.310 --> 00:15:06.259 Teresa de Grosbois: When you are really aware
00:15:06.420 --> 00:15:15.110 Teresa de Grosbois: of what's going on for you personally, and how you connect to the world at large. Sometimes synchronicities just line up for you very rapidly.
00:15:15.110 --> 00:15:17.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:15:17.930 --> 00:15:37.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Let's leave it there for the moment. We'll take a quick break. And when we come back let's talk about this whole idea of vista mundo you know. How did it develop? What were the challenges along the way, and and sort of where you are now? Okay.
00:15:38.110 --> 00:15:45.540 Teresa de Grosbois: Beautiful, wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity.
00:15:46.330 --> 00:15:59.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time, right here on Talkradio, dot Nyc. And all over social media, and we'll be right back with my guest, Teresa de Grobas. In just a moment.
00:17:45.990 --> 00:18:08.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with Teresa de Guo, a founder of the Vista Mundo, intentional community in Costa Rica. So, Teresa, you spoke about how you wanted to have a community with friends, as you're, you know, getting a little bit
00:18:08.010 --> 00:18:26.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on in years, as they say. But you know it's a long stretch from just having that idea to actually setting up the the idea and setting up the community, and I know you said that things just kind of fell into place. But take us a little bit on that journey of.
00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:37.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. Okay, you decided on Costa Rica. How did you find land? What was the idea behind it? What kind of people were you looking to bring down with you to live with.
00:18:38.660 --> 00:18:52.349 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah. Well, when we really started visioning the whole thing, you know, we started thinking about, how do we really want to live? You know. Not just do I want to have friends around me. But do I want to be able to pick my own dinner every day? And do I want to be able
00:18:52.800 --> 00:18:55.210 Teresa de Grosbois: coconut milk that didn't come out of a can.
00:18:55.210 --> 00:18:56.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Ha! Ha!
00:18:56.080 --> 00:19:01.380 Teresa de Grosbois: And how old am I willing to have the eggs I eat in the morning, you know, cause
00:19:01.890 --> 00:19:07.799 Teresa de Grosbois: about it. Any egg you buy in the grocery store in Canada is probably already 3 to 4 months old, same within the Us.
00:19:07.800 --> 00:19:09.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow, yeah.
00:19:09.060 --> 00:19:09.560 Teresa de Grosbois: And
00:19:10.540 --> 00:19:14.239 Teresa de Grosbois: So when we started visioning everything we wanted, you know.
00:19:14.430 --> 00:19:19.822 Teresa de Grosbois: it really started to become clear that. Okay, 1st of all, we need to move south.
00:19:20.380 --> 00:19:27.269 Teresa de Grosbois: But in a very short period of time everybody starts saying, Have you looked at Costa Rica, Costa Rica, Costa Rica? Have you looked at Costa Rica.
00:19:27.570 --> 00:19:33.919 Teresa de Grosbois: and so my my former business partner and I decided, well, we better come down here and and check it out.
00:19:34.330 --> 00:19:47.109 Teresa de Grosbois: and we looked at a couple of places and and very quickly started to realize, well, a. This country has a lot to offer. You know the the there's a reason. Costa Rica is a blue zone, you know, and if you.
00:19:47.110 --> 00:19:47.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No.
00:19:47.700 --> 00:19:59.439 Teresa de Grosbois: It means. Costa Rica is one of the highest percentages of centenarians in the world who live above the age of 100. In fact, our local town here has 6 people that are.
00:19:59.440 --> 00:19:59.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: About.
00:19:59.900 --> 00:20:06.239 Teresa de Grosbois: To a hundred and and several that are above the age of 90 that are still active contributors to their family units. You know
00:20:06.730 --> 00:20:15.729 Teresa de Grosbois: they still work in the family business or men, you know, mend the clothes, or attend the garden, or whatever it is that contributes to the community or their family
00:20:16.260 --> 00:20:16.925 Teresa de Grosbois: and
00:20:17.890 --> 00:20:22.330 Teresa de Grosbois: So we started looking at communities, and I remember we had only been here a few days
00:20:22.570 --> 00:20:30.679 Teresa de Grosbois: and on a whim. I just typed in land for sale in Costa Rica into into my laptop that night.
00:20:30.910 --> 00:20:32.909 Teresa de Grosbois: and this little ad popped up.
00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:41.880 Teresa de Grosbois: That was a Kijiji Ad. Now I know most of the Americans or Europeans listening won't know what Kijiji is, but it's like the main buy and sell for Canada.
00:20:42.270 --> 00:20:48.840 Teresa de Grosbois: And I'm like, what is a Canadian ad doing for land for sale in Costa Rica. I'm like, that's weird.
00:20:48.980 --> 00:20:54.329 Teresa de Grosbois: But it just struck me as so weird that I looked at it. And it. Basically said, early stage development.
00:20:54.430 --> 00:20:59.329 Teresa de Grosbois: If you're interested in being in the ground floor of creating a community in Costa Rica reach out.
00:20:59.780 --> 00:21:01.650 Teresa de Grosbois: And there was a phone number there.
00:21:01.930 --> 00:21:09.299 Teresa de Grosbois: So I called the number, and the individual who was selling the land was literally staying 10 min from where I was in Costa Rica.
00:21:09.300 --> 00:21:10.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, wow!
00:21:11.040 --> 00:21:12.412 Teresa de Grosbois: Lines of that.
00:21:13.470 --> 00:21:17.879 Teresa de Grosbois: So we made arrangements to have lunch the next day, and we went out and saw the land.
00:21:18.310 --> 00:21:32.729 Teresa de Grosbois: And it was interesting, because, you know when you just walk into a property, and you think, Oh, this is it, you just know right? And then you start looking at all the reasons why it should be a yes, as opposed to the reasons first, st and then decide you're a yes.
00:21:32.730 --> 00:21:33.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:21:33.450 --> 00:21:46.769 Teresa de Grosbois: Well, when I did start looking, it really did check all the boxes, you know. It was in what we call the Goldilocks Zone in Costa Rica, where where you can do indoor outdoor living like. If you have a little bit of elevation where you are, it's neither too hot nor too cold. You don't need air.
00:21:48.310 --> 00:21:53.319 Teresa de Grosbois: It was in a beautifully protected valley, so we don't have to worry about
00:21:53.460 --> 00:21:57.009 Teresa de Grosbois: being hit full front with tropical storms. Here.
00:21:57.510 --> 00:21:58.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:21:58.010 --> 00:22:07.219 Teresa de Grosbois: Anywhere near any active, active volcanoes, or or places that would cause earthquakes. What do you call them? Faults in the ground?
00:22:07.630 --> 00:22:08.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No,
00:22:08.450 --> 00:22:17.000 Teresa de Grosbois: And and there was already all kinds of food growing on the land like there was already bananas, and and you know, plantain and things like that growing here.
00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:17.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's some.
00:22:18.250 --> 00:22:20.580 Teresa de Grosbois: So we were kind of excited to look at it, and.
00:22:21.260 --> 00:22:25.256 Teresa de Grosbois: And we met the developer who's a retired buffalo farmer from Wisconsin.
00:22:25.860 --> 00:22:26.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!
00:22:26.570 --> 00:22:32.756 Teresa de Grosbois: I just thought, this is it. This is the individual that we're meant to work with. And so
00:22:33.590 --> 00:22:43.969 Teresa de Grosbois: you know, the initial group of people very quickly, all agreed. And and we just started looking at what do we want to build here? And the rest is history. It's it's actually been a lot of fun ever since then.
00:22:43.970 --> 00:22:45.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow, wow!
00:22:45.380 --> 00:22:55.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so how many you know. So when you're creating an intentional community, you know, it's it's it's not that necessarily
00:22:55.950 --> 00:23:10.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: simple, because you you've got to share resources. You've got to bring stuff onto the property like all that kinds of stuff. So what was it like? Sort of in the early time, because I mean, you basically bought raw land right.
00:23:10.020 --> 00:23:37.030 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah, well, in fact, it's a whole neighborhood. So everybody can buy their own lot, basically. But the 1st thing we did was we built a retreat center here with apartments. So there's places for peace people to live if they're coming in and out places to host retreats almost involved with the community where people who are up to bigger games in the world like, you know, they were trying to have their lives stand for something or or create something in the world. So, having a retreat space here where people could
00:23:37.120 --> 00:23:46.289 Teresa de Grosbois: do lunch and learns or workshops or things where we could learn from each other actually became a really fun way to to start the community.
00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:47.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No.
00:23:47.070 --> 00:24:02.560 Teresa de Grosbois: It also made it easy. If people wanted to come down and see their land or make plans, then it makes everything easier right. But it also created an initial spot where those of us involved would all start living together and talking about and thinking about
00:24:02.860 --> 00:24:18.490 Teresa de Grosbois: what does conscious living mean. And you know, what kind of guidelines do we need around this community? And does it mean to really be committed to doing your own inner work so that you're not only a good neighbor, but a good citizen of Planet Earth. You know.
00:24:18.530 --> 00:24:19.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:24:19.570 --> 00:24:23.870 Teresa de Grosbois: Kind of interesting to have that exploration together as a group.
00:24:25.020 --> 00:24:34.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so how long did it take from when you purchased the land till you actually had the retreat center or the 1st house put up on the land. How long did that take.
00:24:34.070 --> 00:24:40.129 Teresa de Grosbois: We were about 3 and a half years. In fact, we opened the research center the week Covid hit. So that was a bit of a.
00:24:40.150 --> 00:24:40.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oops.
00:24:40.770 --> 00:24:43.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, we weren't. Weren't expecting that one.
00:24:44.140 --> 00:24:51.070 Teresa de Grosbois: So you know, that shifted and changed things a lot for us initially changed the landscape we were moving with.
00:24:51.180 --> 00:24:54.636 Teresa de Grosbois: But the vision has remained strong, you know, and
00:24:55.400 --> 00:25:03.389 Teresa de Grosbois: we have both, you know, people who own the land here, and we also have a lot of people kind of attached to our community that come in and out.
00:25:04.620 --> 00:25:08.030 Teresa de Grosbois: That have just become part of our family here.
00:25:09.020 --> 00:25:16.290 Teresa de Grosbois: And so it was interesting going through Covid down here. I feel like it was such a miracle in my life.
00:25:16.290 --> 00:25:16.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:25:16.950 --> 00:25:22.870 Teresa de Grosbois: That we had just moved here when Covid hit, because I can't imagine a nicer place to write
00:25:23.540 --> 00:25:24.230 Teresa de Grosbois: pandemic. Yeah.
00:25:24.230 --> 00:25:25.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Where where else?
00:25:25.570 --> 00:25:27.329 Teresa de Grosbois: In Paradise, darn.
00:25:27.330 --> 00:25:36.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure it's like, where would you rather be stuck in an apartment in Canada or in a beautiful house in Costa Rica?
00:25:36.750 --> 00:25:42.360 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah, I I really didn't wanna talk about it too much to my friends and family, cause I just.
00:25:42.360 --> 00:25:42.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So bad.
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:48.540 Teresa de Grosbois: They were like. We have to line up for 3 h to get toilet paper, and I was like, Oh.
00:25:52.480 --> 00:26:00.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But but you have family. I mean, you have kids, you have relatives. What? What did your family think about you moving down to Costa Rica?
00:26:00.280 --> 00:26:22.230 Teresa de Grosbois: You know, they were actually really supportive. You know, a lot of my family comes down and visits. Of course, when you live in Costa Rica. People want to visit you. Yeah. You know, my kids come once a year and I try and take 2, 3 months every year and go up, and I do a cross country road trip across Canada to see all my family, because I have quite a few siblings, and I have 2 daughters in Canada as well.
00:26:22.390 --> 00:26:22.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:26:22.890 --> 00:26:32.099 Teresa de Grosbois: So. It's nice to have the best of both worlds, you know. Now I can enjoy Canadian summer, which is spectacular. You know. I love being a Canadian. I love going home to visit.
00:26:32.610 --> 00:26:36.779 Teresa de Grosbois: You can. Also, you know, Costa Rica is spectacular all all year round, so.
00:26:36.780 --> 00:26:37.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:44.979 Teresa de Grosbois: Originally I thought I might maintain a house in Canada and have a home in both places, and I very quickly realized
00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:51.259 Teresa de Grosbois: it's a lot more complicated to have a home in both places, and I love being in Costa Rica, you know.
00:26:52.629 --> 00:26:57.669 Teresa de Grosbois: It just makes life simpler, because when I go up to Canada. I want to visit people, anyway.
00:26:58.650 --> 00:27:01.023 Teresa de Grosbois: Why have a house there? Why not just.
00:27:01.320 --> 00:27:07.604 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right right. Not have the flexibility of just going wherever you want to go, instead of having to go to one spot.
00:27:08.230 --> 00:27:23.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What would you say was the biggest adjustment you had to make moving down to Costa Rica. You know it is a different lifestyle. It's a different environment. And you know, sometimes when you're used to one thing, even if the other thing is better, it's still an adjustment.
00:27:24.530 --> 00:27:31.269 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah. Actually, the biggest adjustment for me was probably not moving countries, but moving from a large city to the country.
00:27:31.630 --> 00:27:32.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I didn't.
00:27:32.770 --> 00:27:36.099 Teresa de Grosbois: Realize that at 1st that that's what the adjustment was. You know.
00:27:36.100 --> 00:27:36.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:27:36.896 --> 00:27:51.099 Teresa de Grosbois: When I lived in Calgary in Canada, I mean, I had big box department stores within 6 blocks of the residential neighborhood I lived in. If I ran out of something. I just, you know, run to the local supermarket, and
00:27:51.530 --> 00:28:00.799 Teresa de Grosbois: I had a Walmart 2 min away. You know I didn't really have to worry about stocking up or or running out of things, or whatever. And now I live out in the country, and it's like
00:28:01.060 --> 00:28:05.240 Teresa de Grosbois: it's 20 min to the local supermarket. It's not outrageous, but
00:28:05.990 --> 00:28:11.820 Teresa de Grosbois: it's interesting that, like suddenly, I was in a country where I didn't know where to buy everything I might need.
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:15.950 Teresa de Grosbois: Where do I get the fennel for my chai? Hmm!
00:28:16.673 --> 00:28:18.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know.
00:28:18.120 --> 00:28:25.990 Teresa de Grosbois: And so initially, I was like really having to do a lot of like asking around, Where do? Where do I buy these things? What do I do these things?
00:28:26.310 --> 00:28:31.200 Teresa de Grosbois: And some of it was, I was still trying to live like a North American in Costa Rica.
00:28:32.590 --> 00:28:43.320 Teresa de Grosbois: And then, as I started to realize, you know, if I just shopped at the Farmers market on Friday. Oh, my God, we're we're 20 min from one of the not one of the biggest farmers market in all of Costa Rica.
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Nice!
00:28:44.970 --> 00:28:56.709 Teresa de Grosbois: And it's huge, and it's an old style farmers market, you know, so you can literally go in there and 40 or $50 you'll walk out with 4 grocery bags, chock a block with food.
00:28:56.710 --> 00:28:57.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:28:57.270 --> 00:29:00.210 Teresa de Grosbois: Amazing fresh cheeses and meats, etc.
00:29:00.420 --> 00:29:07.430 Teresa de Grosbois: But I had to start living like a Costa Rican, and and it was interesting how joyful that was to realize.
00:29:07.560 --> 00:29:11.460 Teresa de Grosbois: Oh, I don't have to buy my cheese at the supermarket. I can get.
00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:11.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Got it.
00:29:11.930 --> 00:29:23.149 Teresa de Grosbois: Fresh cheese. That's amazing at the farmers market, and it's half the price. So that was that was kind of fun to go through that transition of learning how to be a tikka, you
00:29:23.760 --> 00:29:29.550 Teresa de Grosbois: and his name for themselves, and and live here a little bit more the way the locals would live.
00:29:29.550 --> 00:29:32.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right right. And and speaking of that.
00:29:32.660 --> 00:29:35.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: did you speak Spanish when you moved down there?
00:29:35.350 --> 00:29:37.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Only marginally.
00:29:37.180 --> 00:29:37.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Aha!
00:29:37.990 --> 00:29:44.820 Teresa de Grosbois: I've been learning Spanish as I live here, but the biggest challenge with that is Costa Rican speaks so fast I always have to.
00:29:44.820 --> 00:29:45.997 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, thank, you.
00:29:46.713 --> 00:29:50.590 Teresa de Grosbois: You know. Get them to slow down so I can understand them.
00:29:50.590 --> 00:29:52.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah.
00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:59.300 Teresa de Grosbois: It's not hard to pick up. It's actually a pretty easy language to learning. Costa Ricans are incredibly generous with helping you learn.
00:29:59.430 --> 00:30:05.100 Teresa de Grosbois: you know. If you go to the farmers market, they'll teach you the words for everything, and they'll teach you how to ask, and they'll teach you the.
00:30:05.887 --> 00:30:08.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Nice. Nice. Yeah.
00:30:08.250 --> 00:30:09.818 Teresa de Grosbois: Learn this from shopping.
00:30:10.210 --> 00:30:12.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean, I mean to me that that
00:30:12.340 --> 00:30:28.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I kind of feel like that would be one of my biggest challenges moving to another country where it's not the same language is, is just learning to adopt that language and learning to think in that language like, it's 1 thing to speak a language, but it's another thing to actually think in it.
00:30:28.570 --> 00:30:29.000 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah.
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So you're you're communicating with people the way, you know.
00:30:34.500 --> 00:30:36.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on a more intimate level, I guess.
00:30:37.260 --> 00:30:46.979 Teresa de Grosbois: Google. Translate's pretty amazing, though I have to say I've had some pretty incredible conversations with people that we just supplemented with the translate app.
00:30:47.980 --> 00:30:52.119 Teresa de Grosbois: It's. It's amazing how much technology has become the miracle. We don't even notice.
00:30:52.300 --> 00:30:54.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, it's so ubiquitous, right.
00:30:54.560 --> 00:31:06.850 Teresa de Grosbois: I literally had a conversation the other day where there was a woman from Norway, a Costa Rican, and someone from Japan, and the 4 of us were having a conversation in Spanish, but using Google translate to help.
00:31:06.850 --> 00:31:07.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!
00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:16.249 Teresa de Grosbois: And it was the most amazing conversation. It was so fun we were just laughing at at the challenges we were having. But it was really a really cool experience.
00:31:16.250 --> 00:31:38.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow! Wild, wild. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break when we come back. Let's talk about kind of where things are today with Vista Mundo. What's going on? You know, who's there? How many people are there? And and what are you creating today with it? Okay.
00:31:38.330 --> 00:31:38.950 Teresa de Grosbois: Perfect.
00:31:39.130 --> 00:31:49.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity, and we will be right back with our guest, Teresa Degro! Bah! In just a moment.
00:33:24.500 --> 00:33:41.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. So, Teresa, you've been down there now for several years. What's the status of vista Mundo! What are you looking to do with it now? Where are things today?
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:45.570 Teresa de Grosbois: Well, we actually have 2 new members of our community. We just sold 2 more lots in the last.
00:33:45.570 --> 00:33:46.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful.
00:33:46.810 --> 00:33:49.038 Teresa de Grosbois: So I'm excited about that, especially.
00:33:49.540 --> 00:33:55.720 Teresa de Grosbois: One of them, one of the new buyers, reignited in me my passion for sustainable building.
00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:03.729 Teresa de Grosbois: And we're actually looking at bringing in a workshop on aircrete. I don't know if you've ever heard about aircrete, but they make these amazing dome homes.
00:34:03.730 --> 00:34:04.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:34:04.270 --> 00:34:23.549 Teresa de Grosbois: From, you know, a few friends can build a house together, these little air Crete makers and stuff, and I'm like, oh, how exciting one of the things I love about. When new members come into the community is they. They bring with them a whole new set of passions and interests that tend to reignite the community, you know.
00:34:23.550 --> 00:34:24.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:34:24.820 --> 00:34:35.859 Teresa de Grosbois: It's interesting because I was looking at Air Creek several years ago, when we 1st started, Mr. Mundo and I had given up on it because I thought, Oh, this! There's nobody else here who's interested in. I don't think I can do it alone.
00:34:36.010 --> 00:34:39.209 Teresa de Grosbois: And all of a sudden, look what you manifested.
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:45.979 Teresa de Grosbois: Somebody came in who's really interested in it. So I'm I'm hoping to bring in a training course on it, and.
00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:46.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful.
00:34:46.650 --> 00:34:53.630 Teresa de Grosbois: Talk about it. So we can start building some little beautiful little tiny houses built of air Crete, that are very inexpensive. So.
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:59.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and you know, speaking of the like tiny houses and the homes and stuff, do you have certain
00:34:59.460 --> 00:35:10.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't know rules or guidelines in terms of what someone can build on the lot, what they can't. You know. What are you looking to like? Like? What's the overall feeling of the community?
00:35:11.290 --> 00:35:15.429 Teresa de Grosbois: Well as a conscious community, we decided we're not going to be
00:35:15.650 --> 00:35:20.490 Teresa de Grosbois: Draconian in terms of saying, you have to do this. You have to do that. You have to do that.
00:35:21.070 --> 00:35:29.060 Teresa de Grosbois: Instead, we ask people to make a commitment to, to living as consciously and as sustainably as they can.
00:35:29.660 --> 00:35:34.769 Teresa de Grosbois: And so, because there's a lot of arguments about what's sustainable in building practices. Right?
00:35:35.580 --> 00:35:42.729 Teresa de Grosbois: Don't consider concrete sustainable. Others say concrete lasts forever. That's the most sustainable building products. You can use right.
00:35:42.730 --> 00:35:43.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:35:43.720 --> 00:35:53.269 Teresa de Grosbois: And and who am I to play God and say, Well, I know what's correct and what's not correct. But what I do know is as a community. We're trying to figure out things together, you know.
00:35:53.800 --> 00:36:00.369 Teresa de Grosbois: It already has a sustainable electrical grid. The entire grid here is 0 emissions, which is pretty exciting.
00:36:00.370 --> 00:36:01.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, wonderful!
00:36:01.539 --> 00:36:18.459 Teresa de Grosbois: But you know, we also, as a community, have looked at, how do we bring in technologies, or or new practices, or new ideas together right? And because that makes it a lot easier, it's it's a lot cheaper to buy solar panels if you're doing a bulk order than if one in
00:36:18.930 --> 00:36:29.479 Teresa de Grosbois: so trying to buy solar panels. It's a lot easier to put in better water infiltration systems, or as a community, we got together to build the community pool
00:36:30.170 --> 00:36:34.949 Teresa de Grosbois: fresh water filter on it, so we didn't have to use any chemicals in the pool.
00:36:34.950 --> 00:36:35.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, wonderful!
00:36:35.570 --> 00:36:47.030 Teresa de Grosbois: And the whole community contributed to our ability to build a pool that's at a higher standard. So we now have an ozonated and ionized pool. It takes no chemicals. Well, it takes a tiny bit of chlorine about the same as drinking water.
00:36:47.030 --> 00:36:47.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:36:47.980 --> 00:36:54.780 Teresa de Grosbois: But we we save hundreds of dollars every month, and not having to buy chlorine or saline for the pool.
00:36:55.070 --> 00:36:55.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:36:55.490 --> 00:37:02.669 Teresa de Grosbois: So in the long run it'll actually pay for itself, and we all get this health benefit of swimming in an ozonated pool.
00:37:02.670 --> 00:37:05.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, which is actually, really, really good for you. So it's yeah.
00:37:05.780 --> 00:37:12.000 Teresa de Grosbois: Kind of fun exploring different ideas like that, you know, one at a time, as a community.
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:17.410 Teresa de Grosbois: Most of the standards we have as a community are more around our own behavior and who we're being in the world.
00:37:17.410 --> 00:37:18.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And
00:37:18.410 --> 00:37:36.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, when we talk about consciousness like there's 2 sides to consciousness. Right? There's the. Are you aware of your own thoughts and aware of your own emotions. I loved your blog post. You read at the beginning of the show that way right? Because you're not aware of your own wounds and your own emotions, and your own thoughts.
00:37:36.520 --> 00:37:49.070 Teresa de Grosbois: Then it's very likely you're if you're not helping yourself to process these things, you're probably harming others with your thought patterns and your emotions, and you're not even aware of it. Right? And
00:37:49.360 --> 00:38:00.040 Teresa de Grosbois: and the other side of consciousness is, who are you being in the world like? What are you making your life stand for, you know. Are you up to something that contributes to your family, to your community, to the world as a whole?
00:38:00.420 --> 00:38:01.135 Teresa de Grosbois: And
00:38:02.270 --> 00:38:12.150 Teresa de Grosbois: We decided that if we create consciousness as the 1st and foremost goal, then environmental sustainability are automatically flows from that.
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:28.490 Teresa de Grosbois: If we really think about, how do we impact others? And how do we live together as a community? How do we help each other? And who are we being in the world as a whole. Then, of course, we're going to be making better decisions and doing it in a funner way.
00:38:28.710 --> 00:38:45.939 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, so so, how do you handle things like disagreements between residents? Or or, you know, if there's some problem like, how do you work that out, because when you're living in an intentional community, you're you're you're pretty close with your neighbors, and it's a pretty
00:38:46.530 --> 00:38:48.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: intimate relationship. I guess you'd say
00:38:48.710 --> 00:38:56.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we each have our own properties, but we hang out a lot, and I think 1st and foremost, we're a gossip, free zone.
00:38:56.720 --> 00:38:56.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So.
00:38:56.930 --> 00:39:04.939 Teresa de Grosbois: So if you're talking to someone else about a problem, you have with another person. The only circumstance under which that's okay is your
00:39:06.390 --> 00:39:08.199 Teresa de Grosbois: situation with them directly.
00:39:08.410 --> 00:39:12.819 Teresa de Grosbois: Right? So if you're asking for advice on help on how you go.
00:39:14.340 --> 00:39:19.330 Teresa de Grosbois: But if you're just complaining about your neighbor, that behavior is not considered acceptable here, so.
00:39:19.330 --> 00:39:19.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:39:19.850 --> 00:39:24.160 Teresa de Grosbois: We really focus on having people understand that.
00:39:24.450 --> 00:39:33.410 Teresa de Grosbois: you know manipulation drama, you know all those behaviors we might think of as codependent. Or, you know, last generation, some people would say.
00:39:33.410 --> 00:39:34.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:47.539 Teresa de Grosbois: But we're making a concerted effort to leave those behind and operate as a group that's really committed to each other's emotional vibration, you know. Like, let's let's build each other up, not tear each other down.
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:54.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and have you seen in the community, when there have been problems that people been able and willing to work through them and
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like bring that kind of energy to it.
00:39:57.210 --> 00:40:03.209 Teresa de Grosbois: Interestingly, when you've got a lot of people that are really committed to doing their own work. A lot of them are also really awesome coaches
00:40:04.390 --> 00:40:07.659 Teresa de Grosbois: even have a few people that are like trauma release therapists.
00:40:08.060 --> 00:40:12.970 Teresa de Grosbois: So yeah, it has been really good. And in fact, you know.
00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:21.029 Teresa de Grosbois: the interesting thing is the people who aren't committed to doing their own work, who get a little manipulative or bring drama to the situation.
00:40:21.380 --> 00:40:24.269 Teresa de Grosbois: They usually leave again pretty quickly.
00:40:24.270 --> 00:40:24.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:40:24.730 --> 00:40:31.619 Teresa de Grosbois: Don't like people calling them on on their behavior. So you know, they have one of 2 choices. They've either got to change or move on.
00:40:32.200 --> 00:40:35.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And we have seen a few people move on. And I'm okay with that.
00:40:35.958 --> 00:40:39.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, I was gonna ask you, has anyone actually left because of that. So they have.
00:40:39.610 --> 00:40:59.400 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah, we have had a few people leave, and I'm happy about it. I'd rather have people commit to really doing the work and and really committing to be a good neighbor and being a good community member than someone who tries to manipulate with passive, aggressive behavior and and bring drama.
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:00.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Situation.
00:41:00.210 --> 00:41:02.199 Teresa de Grosbois: I don't really want those people around. So.
00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:05.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right right? And and do you have any?
00:41:06.150 --> 00:41:08.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't know community
00:41:08.700 --> 00:41:19.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: practices, or is it all just very spur of the moment like, do you do a community meal once a week? Or do you do like a community meeting once a week.
00:41:19.546 --> 00:41:23.329 Teresa de Grosbois: They're not always on the same night. But we do a lot of potluck dinners. Yeah.
00:41:23.330 --> 00:41:23.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean.
00:41:23.790 --> 00:41:46.829 Teresa de Grosbois: Together and eat together. Interestingly, sometimes we just randomly realize that we're all needing a break at the same time. We'll go for a walk together. A lot of us walk early in the morning together to walking here in the mountains of Costa Rica. We're near the town of Berlin de San Ramon, and almost everywhere here the views are
00:41:47.090 --> 00:42:00.680 Teresa de Grosbois: stunningly spectacular. We are actually on a named section of road, one of the few named highways in Costa Rica. It's el camino del cielo y colibri, which means the trail of heaven, and hummingbirds.
00:42:01.990 --> 00:42:11.139 Teresa de Grosbois: And so we walk along there and walk along the upper roads and and just let the views inspire us. It's a pretty nice way to start your morning.
00:42:11.140 --> 00:42:15.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful sounds like a great place to go to write your book.
00:42:16.402 --> 00:42:26.310 Teresa de Grosbois: Absolutely. Yeah, I do. Do write your book in 2 week workshops. So we that's 1 of the retreats we hold here. Actually.
00:42:26.310 --> 00:42:29.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, wonderful, wonderful.
00:42:32.070 --> 00:42:44.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so where you're at today, like, what are your current challenges? What? What do you? What? What's kind of some things you're having to work through today that are, you know, being a a challenge for you.
00:42:46.650 --> 00:42:57.610 Teresa de Grosbois: Oh, well, for me personally, you know, the challenge is always doing my own inner work right. I you know I always have this beautiful vision of where I think things are going, and the universe has always got another plan.
00:42:57.610 --> 00:42:58.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:42:59.700 --> 00:43:12.570 Teresa de Grosbois: I like our biggest tragedy right now. Is that one of my best friends who I started this community with got very, very sick and had to go back to Canada. I actually bought her out on the business so she could go.
00:43:13.130 --> 00:43:14.980 Teresa de Grosbois: And be with family and friends
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:23.559 Teresa de Grosbois: and it was interesting that your blog post at the beginning was about loneliness, because I have moments where I'm like. Oh, I missed my friend, you know.
00:43:23.560 --> 00:43:24.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:30.609 Teresa de Grosbois: And and yet it's it's pretty awesome to have all these under other wonderful people around who get it.
00:43:31.050 --> 00:43:31.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:43:31.770 --> 00:43:36.140 Teresa de Grosbois: And and it's okay to be real and be human around them.
00:43:37.420 --> 00:43:44.640 Teresa de Grosbois: Even though we're committed to doing our own emotional work, we we have no expectation that everybody's happy. Go lucky all the time.
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:45.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know.
00:43:45.780 --> 00:43:49.210 Teresa de Grosbois: Like sometimes you're just having a bad day, and you need to be able to feel.
00:43:49.600 --> 00:43:50.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:43:50.210 --> 00:44:01.930 Teresa de Grosbois: And or sometimes you just really really miss your business partner, who you love dearly, and you know and and it's okay. It's okay, to be a human here, you know.
00:44:02.777 --> 00:44:07.770 Teresa de Grosbois: We want people to be humans unashamedly
00:44:08.100 --> 00:44:16.009 Teresa de Grosbois: and in fact, I think one of the worst things we could do is try and hide or deny our negative emotions, because then they start leaking out and impacting.
00:44:16.010 --> 00:44:16.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.210 Teresa de Grosbois: People in all kinds of ways, right?
00:44:18.210 --> 00:44:19.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right.
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:26.550 Teresa de Grosbois: I think, acknowledging your trauma, and acknowledging your grief, you know, is sometimes one of the best things you can do.
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:34.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And it's sort of, you know, once you're committed to doing your own work, then
00:44:34.530 --> 00:44:37.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: everything else kind of
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:43.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't want to say gets easier, but it kind of flows in a very different way. That's not as
00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:46.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there's not as much friction.
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:54.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I guess, because you're being present, and you're being open to to what's presenting itself in the moment.
00:44:54.650 --> 00:45:00.159 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah, and being vulnerable about like I screw up as much as the next person. You know.
00:45:01.230 --> 00:45:08.989 Teresa de Grosbois: I'm as human as they come, you know, but but I think people find it refreshing when you could acknowledge your own mistakes and just correct them, rather than having
00:45:09.350 --> 00:45:11.969 Teresa de Grosbois: drama or trying to blame other people, or.
00:45:11.970 --> 00:45:12.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No.
00:45:12.640 --> 00:45:19.310 Teresa de Grosbois: Make something someone else's fault, you know. I think when you live in a community that's supportive and calm.
00:45:19.310 --> 00:45:19.660 Teresa de Grosbois: Gotcha
00:45:19.660 --> 00:45:25.519 Teresa de Grosbois: and their belief system, then people can own their mistakes quickly, and fix them as opposed to having some kind of
00:45:26.680 --> 00:45:27.520 Teresa de Grosbois: perfect.
00:45:27.520 --> 00:45:35.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, what's been your biggest surprise with this whole process and the community, and moving down there.
00:45:37.120 --> 00:45:38.930 Teresa de Grosbois: Barn on Covid.
00:45:39.540 --> 00:45:40.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes. Okay.
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.169 Teresa de Grosbois: Wow! We really weren't expecting that, you know. We had.
00:45:44.170 --> 00:45:44.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:45:44.890 --> 00:45:50.929 Teresa de Grosbois: We had all these plans, and of course our initial model was all based on having events and bringing people down to events.
00:45:50.930 --> 00:45:51.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No, no.
00:45:51.650 --> 00:45:56.682 Teresa de Grosbois: And they could experience the community and experience the retreat center and and
00:45:57.350 --> 00:46:03.780 Teresa de Grosbois: that really threw us for a loop. I gotta say that that put us under a lot of challenge.
00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:07.560 Teresa de Grosbois: but it it also helped us really discover who we are, and and.
00:46:07.560 --> 00:46:08.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good.
00:46:08.160 --> 00:46:09.865 Teresa de Grosbois: Be in the world, and and
00:46:10.670 --> 00:46:15.790 Teresa de Grosbois: help helped us really get to what's really important in life.
00:46:15.790 --> 00:46:17.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know? Yeah.
00:46:17.870 --> 00:46:21.420 Teresa de Grosbois: Didn't change any of it, not for all the gold and chinas.
00:46:21.720 --> 00:46:23.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All the tea in China. Yes.
00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:25.670 Teresa de Grosbois: All the tea in China. You got the wrong expression.
00:46:25.670 --> 00:46:27.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, yes, yes.
00:46:27.080 --> 00:46:32.270 Teresa de Grosbois: You know, because I did learn a lot about myself. And I did have a lot of growth going through that.
00:46:32.270 --> 00:46:49.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, wonderful, wonderful. Okay, we're gonna take our last break of the show when we come back. Let's let's talk about some practical stuff like, if someone's interested like, what's it gonna cost them? You know, how much does it cost to build up a home down in Costa Rica? What are the challenges around it. So let's get a little practical when we come back. Okay.
00:46:50.780 --> 00:47:07.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful. So everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. Our guest this hour has been Teresa Degro, and we'll be right back in just a moment to finish it all up and to let you know how to get in touch with her. So everyone stay tuned.
00:48:56.570 --> 00:49:25.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Teresa, let's just say someone's listening to the show. And and they're hearing all these wonderful things about Costa Rica, and they decide to come down and check it out, and they fall in love with the place. But, like what are the practical things they need to keep in mind like, how much does it cost to buy a lot, or roughly give me a range, and like, how much would it cost to build a home right, because these are all like just raw land, that there's no homes pre-built on them right.
00:49:26.090 --> 00:49:43.000 Teresa de Grosbois: Well, all our lots are serviced, so you don't have to worry about bringing electric or water, but the lots range from about 50,000 to around 140,000 each. So the the 50,000 lots are more like a city or double the city size. A typical city size lot.
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:46.890 Teresa de Grosbois: And the the more expensive lots are like an acre and a quarter, you know. 5.
00:49:46.890 --> 00:49:47.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I know.
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.719 Teresa de Grosbois: Per meter lots, so they're quite big
00:49:50.512 --> 00:49:54.470 Teresa de Grosbois: on the average lot. There's room to build more than one house if you want. If if.
00:49:54.470 --> 00:49:54.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't know.
00:49:54.920 --> 00:50:05.949 Teresa de Grosbois: So you can either build one really big house or multiple smaller houses, all of which is very acceptable in Costa Rica. So we do have a few situations where friends are sharing a lot. You know.
00:50:05.950 --> 00:50:06.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:11.179 Teresa de Grosbois: Which is we? I love that idea because it's even more living in community, you know.
00:50:11.180 --> 00:50:11.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:50:11.660 --> 00:50:15.479 Teresa de Grosbois: Friends in the house next door, and you're sharing a lot together. That's awesome.
00:50:15.879 --> 00:50:35.969 Teresa de Grosbois: Building here. It really depends on what what standard of building you want. I think you can build something pretty nice like what we build. The retreat center still has marble countertops and beautiful Europa windows. You know the windows that completely open out, and we about a hundred dollars a square foot to to build a retreat center.
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:56.769 Teresa de Grosbois: I think. The the air Crete domes that we're looking at bringing in. Those are ridiculously affordable. If, especially if you've got a group of friends that want to help build together. We're thinking we might actually create a little air Crete committee here and help each other houses, those I think you could probably build for $50 a square foot.
00:50:57.197 --> 00:51:01.732 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah, pretty amazing. But you know, if you want Italian marble and.
00:51:02.110 --> 00:51:04.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right? Right. If you want the fancy stuff.
00:51:04.170 --> 00:51:11.209 Teresa de Grosbois: Pictures and things like that. Then it's easy to have your costs run up very, very quickly, you know, it really depends on the finishes that you want in your home.
00:51:11.677 --> 00:51:17.399 Teresa de Grosbois: Some things are ridiculously cheap here, and others are quite a bit more expensive than you're used to.
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:23.620 Teresa de Grosbois: Right? What kind of categories of things are more expensive, and what categories of things are are cheaper.
00:51:23.949 --> 00:51:30.860 Teresa de Grosbois: Expect food if you eat like a local, to be half to a 3rd of what you'd spend in North America.
00:51:30.860 --> 00:51:31.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!
00:51:31.330 --> 00:51:50.540 Teresa de Grosbois: You're committed to your North American brand names, and you want imported cereal, and, you know, imported olive oil and things like that. Then that'll be double what you normally spend in North America. So the way I live I tend to do my groceries at the farmers markets most week. But I go to a big box grocery store once a month, just to buy like the truffle oil I miss, or.
00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:56.679 Teresa de Grosbois: You know a fancy olive oil or things like that that I couldn't get at the farmers market, you know.
00:51:56.680 --> 00:51:57.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:51:57.528 --> 00:52:10.779 Teresa de Grosbois: Driving a car. Here is a lot more expensive than you'd expect in the United States, and that's because there's an import tax. There's import taxes on most things. So if it's imported, and it's probably going to be double or triple
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:21.019 Teresa de Grosbois: to spend in the States or Canada. If it's not imported. It's probably a quarter of the price, or to have.
00:52:21.020 --> 00:52:22.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I got you got you.
00:52:22.730 --> 00:52:27.050 Teresa de Grosbois: So in general, I find my cost of living is a lot lower here.
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:33.050 Teresa de Grosbois: I'm probably a lot of people here live really really well for under $2,000 a month.
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:51.809 Teresa de Grosbois: But but there are certain things where you just be like Whoa! I wasn't expecting how much that costs trying to buy a car. Here is one of those. You'll have a bit of a sticker shock if you do that, that said. You often see groups of friends just sharing a vehicle, or it's very inexpensive to hire a driver here and go somewhere for a day.
00:52:51.810 --> 00:52:52.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No.
00:52:52.300 --> 00:52:53.050 Teresa de Grosbois: A lot of people.
00:52:53.050 --> 00:52:56.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was gonna ask, do you actually need a car to get around? Or can you get around?
00:52:56.380 --> 00:52:57.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, you know.
00:52:57.380 --> 00:53:10.160 Teresa de Grosbois: As long as you're flexible enough to either catch a lift with a friend when you want to go into town or hire a driver. It's it's about $25 to hire a driver to town and back. So
00:53:10.680 --> 00:53:17.040 Teresa de Grosbois: really, not that much relative like even in North America, that would be cheaper than owning your own vehicle, so.
00:53:17.040 --> 00:53:18.247 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:53:19.428 --> 00:53:24.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What advice would you give someone who's considering moving down there
00:53:24.700 --> 00:53:33.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to to make that transition easier? Like, what have you learned from your own experience that you think would help somebody. Considering this.
00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:36.060 Teresa de Grosbois: Yeah, I I would say, just do it. 1st of all.
00:53:36.366 --> 00:53:36.673 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Like.
00:53:36.980 --> 00:53:40.912 Teresa de Grosbois: I I don't regret it for a minute, and I think
00:53:41.490 --> 00:53:45.619 Teresa de Grosbois: I wish I hadn't kept my feet in 2 camps for as long as I did.
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:54.974 Teresa de Grosbois: Like trying to maintain a house in Canada and a place here. Added stress and complication to the whole thing that I think
00:53:55.520 --> 00:54:06.429 Teresa de Grosbois: in hindsight. Like, you know. I remember I put a bunch of stuff in storage in Canada, and I played paid for a storage unit for like 3 years, until I finally emptied, emptied it out and sold it all.
00:54:08.030 --> 00:54:13.939 Teresa de Grosbois: But I but I think for sure try and land in a community of like-minded peers.
00:54:14.430 --> 00:54:15.539 Teresa de Grosbois: You know, like
00:54:15.830 --> 00:54:35.449 Teresa de Grosbois: there's there's moving to Costa Rica, and then there's moving where you'll have a group of friends in Costa Rica when you've got a group of people around you that already know how to get a bank account already. Know about how to apply for Residency. If you want to apply for Residency. You don't have to. You can still come here without applying for Residency.
00:54:35.780 --> 00:54:51.060 Teresa de Grosbois: But when you're around a group, people that have already been through the ropes. It just makes it a lot easier, you know. Some. It's it's a lot more fun when you've got friends around to like showing you. What are the strange fruits they're selling in the farmers market
00:54:51.570 --> 00:54:52.930 Teresa de Grosbois: pose, anyway, you know.
00:54:52.930 --> 00:54:53.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:54:53.430 --> 00:54:58.070 Teresa de Grosbois: It's it's just neat being with a group that helps show you the ropes.
00:54:58.070 --> 00:54:59.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:55:00.178 --> 00:55:08.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So if people want to learn more about vista Mundo, if they want to get in touch with you, how would they find you? How would they get in touch with you?
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:11.969 Teresa de Grosbois: You can just come to our website, vistamundo.info
00:55:12.473 --> 00:55:16.469 Teresa de Grosbois: and that's just literally translated view of the world, because.
00:55:16.470 --> 00:55:17.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:55:17.120 --> 00:55:28.980 Teresa de Grosbois: Our community with a worldview. And there's actually a free course on the homepage of our website about moving to Costa Rica that our community put together. We sat down and brainstormed out.
00:55:28.980 --> 00:55:29.330 Teresa de Grosbois: Oh.
00:55:29.330 --> 00:55:38.100 Teresa de Grosbois: all the questions people probably have about setting up a bank account, about buying a car, about where to buy, etc.
00:55:39.070 --> 00:55:45.610 Teresa de Grosbois: We put together a little short course for people that's absolutely free. So feel free to do that course. If you've got questions about moving here.
00:55:46.190 --> 00:55:54.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful! And vista mundo is spelled VIST a MUND o.info
00:55:54.650 --> 00:56:01.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Teresa, what's your vision for the future. How do you see things in the next 5, 1015 years?
00:56:02.010 --> 00:56:09.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, we're going to just get bigger and better all the time, you know, we're very early stages of wanting to have a food forest around all the houses.
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:11.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh.
00:56:11.090 --> 00:56:17.920 Teresa de Grosbois: And I think once that takes hold, you know, we're hoping to put in vertical gardens in all the homes.
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:18.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, nice!
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.349 Teresa de Grosbois: You know where you. You have the upright hydroponic gardens that.
00:56:22.830 --> 00:56:24.889 Teresa de Grosbois: Little solar panels.
00:56:24.890 --> 00:56:25.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Actually.
00:56:25.260 --> 00:56:31.299 Teresa de Grosbois: Easy to set up. So I'm you know. We're thinking as a group of friends. We'll just all get together and build them together.
00:56:31.560 --> 00:56:32.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, wonderful!
00:56:32.680 --> 00:56:37.174 Teresa de Grosbois: You know. I think. We'll see even more community events here, and
00:56:37.710 --> 00:56:48.870 Teresa de Grosbois: more holistic workshops and holistic trainings. I I'm really excited about seeing people not only come down here and thrive, and how they live, but thrive in their businesses.
00:56:49.640 --> 00:57:01.149 Teresa de Grosbois: And and really gain the benefit of being in a community where most of the members of this community are, in fact, entrepreneurs. So if you are, you'll be around other digital nomads and entrepreneurs.
00:57:01.930 --> 00:57:23.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful! Well, Teresa, unfortunately we have to leave it there. Thank you so so much for taking your little time out of your time in Paradise and coming on my show today, it's always a pleasure to reconnect and and see how you're doing. I wish you all the success in the world, and I look forward to coming down there for a visit when it gets cold up here.
00:57:23.520 --> 00:57:25.450 Teresa de Grosbois: It was a joy. Sam, thank you.
00:57:25.560 --> 00:57:54.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you. And of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in each week. Without you there is no show. I so appreciate all of you. Let me know what you think of the show. I hope you enjoy the topic, and please get in touch with Teresa. If you have any interest at all in the potential of joining an intentional community in Costa Rica. Again, the website is vistamundo.info. INFO. And of course. Later. Today we have our shows, Frank, about health starting at 5 Pm. Eastern time.
00:57:54.900 --> 00:58:22.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: followed by serving up success with a splash, starting at 6 Pm. Eastern time, and yes, we have more new shows. Starting in a couple of weeks. In the 1st week of August we have Siobhan Laurie starting her new show the expansion room on Wednesdays at 5 Pm. And art from, and his show making seamless sales at 7 Pm. On Thursday. So we got a whole slate of shows coming up.
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:27.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So everyone take care. Thank you all for tuning in. We will talk to you all next week.