The relationship between Sara and Linda goes back to 2023 when they met on LinkedIn after Linda had participated in the Clarity Confidence Connection Summit. Sara invited Linda to be a guest on Today's Conversation on Gift of Healing TV, whose home is in England.
Well, they have been guests on each other's broadcasts several times since, supporting their spiritual journey as well as their listeners. Both "The A Train to Sedona" and "Gift of Healing TV" host international people whose expertise can broaden the perspective of the listeners.
Sara Jane is the lead author of the new ebook (available worldwide), which will be published as a physical book in the fall: "I Didn't Become Selfish I Became Harder to Manipulate." There are 27 authors. Sara's chapter is #10 while Linda's chapter is #20.
We will discuss the "making of the book" as well as other topics including Assertion as a Component of Compassion. The will be a lively and provocative conversation.
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In this opening segment of The A Train to Sedona, Linda Marsanico introduces her spiritually-inspired memoir and offers a free guide to high-vibration living, emphasizing the importance of staying present. She welcomes guest Sarah Jane, a healer, channeler, and creator of Vocal Reiki, who shares the empowering story behind her new multi-author book I Didn’t Become Selfish, I Became Harder to Manipulate, born from a viral video that deeply resonated with people seeking personal sovereignty and healing. Together, Linda and Sarah explore how true compassion begins with self-love and boundary-setting, challenging the outdated notion that honoring one’s needs is selfish.
Sara Jane reflects on how a Facebook post evolved into a powerful message seen by over 100,000 people. Despite initially missing the signs, encouragement from her psychic sister helped her recognize the universe’s call to action. Sara emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries, sharing trauma, and creating resonance through emotional honesty. She and Linda discuss the value of sibling support, being present to hear life’s subtle cues, and responding to others with genuine care. Sara describes the multi-author collaboration behind her book—how she let the universe guide the story order by drawing names from a jar—and why including seven male voices was essential. Both women agree that healing from trauma isn’t just about recounting events but about understanding the emotions and transformation behind them. The conversation ends on an uplifting note about spiritual growth, reclaiming agency, and living a full, awakened life.
Sara Jane discusses the evolution of her book I Didn’t Become Selfish, I Became Harder to Manipulate. Originally planned as an ebook with embedded audio, she now aims to release a physical edition on October 1, 2025 — exactly one year after the video that sparked the project. She describes organizing a collaborative “gathering” instead of a traditional summit, where conversations between authors will expand beyond the book’s content. These will be recorded in September and released over several days in October to coincide with the relaunch. Sara also shares the creative contributions of her collaborators, such as cover design, audio narration, and virtual backgrounds for the gatherings. She reflects on her journey navigating technology, the importance of setting boundaries, and how past experiences with book publishing helped shape this project. Sara emphasizes the power of collective energy, support among spiritually aligned individuals, and her continued work through Gift of Healing TV, which she's run independently since 2014.
Sara Jane reflects on the emotional and collaborative journey behind her book I Didn’t Become Selfish, I Became Harder to Manipulate. She expresses deep gratitude to the 27 global contributors who shared heartfelt, healing stories—many of whom recorded their own chapters to preserve authenticity. Sara prioritized accessibility, guided by her neurodivergent sister, ensuring formatting and font choices would be dyslexia-friendly and easier to follow.
In a powerful turn, Sara shares her spiritual path—one rooted in connection with the angelic realm, dragons, light language, and channeled sound healing through vocal reiki. While once Catholic, she now follows a deeply intuitive and spiritually fluid path. She speaks to the soul-centered nature of light language and cautions against over-reliance on AI for processing channeled work, honoring its pure, energetic intent.
Closing the episode, she emphasizes the role of sharing as an act of caring—creating ripples of love and support through platforms like Gift of Healing TV, Our Magical Friends, and Vocal Reiki. Linda and Sara end the show with warmth, gratitude, and anticipation for future collaborations, including their upcoming "gathering" of book contributors.
00:00:53.580 --> 00:01:00.389 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone! Welcome to the A. Train to Sedona broadcast. I'm Linda Marcannico.
00:01:01.210 --> 00:01:07.799 Linda Marsanico: The A. Train to Sedona is also a memoir. I wrote about my journey to love and compassion.
00:01:08.060 --> 00:01:15.650 Linda Marsanico: I wrote it to share my failings and my successes, so that my journey would inspire yours.
00:01:16.130 --> 00:01:22.419 Linda Marsanico: You can get a signed copy on my website@lindamarsenico.com on by the book page.
00:01:22.730 --> 00:01:29.300 Linda Marsanico: You can also get a regular copy at Amazon, Barnes and noble Walmart and bookstores.
00:01:30.390 --> 00:01:33.440 Linda Marsanico: Now I also have a free gift for you.
00:01:33.600 --> 00:01:44.020 Linda Marsanico: I call it the cheat Sheet. The high vibration. Living in it are 7 exercises designed to keep your energy high.
00:01:44.440 --> 00:01:52.600 Linda Marsanico: The exercise I want to focus on today is staying in the present moment. The present moment is where the action is.
00:01:52.900 --> 00:02:02.299 Linda Marsanico: If I'm washing the dishes. I want to stay focused on washing the dishes. If someone is cleaning their car, stay focused on cleaning the car.
00:02:02.980 --> 00:02:07.979 Linda Marsanico: keeping your energy and vibration high, and where the action is.
00:02:08.710 --> 00:02:14.060 Linda Marsanico: you can download a free copy on my website@lindamarsonico.com.
00:02:15.260 --> 00:02:22.269 Linda Marsanico: I have 2 disclaimers. One is that this broadcast does not establish a professional relationship.
00:02:22.380 --> 00:02:30.339 Linda Marsanico: and the other is that opinions expressed here do not reflect necessarily the opinions of talk radio in New York City
00:02:30.880 --> 00:02:33.630 Linda Marsanico: today. My guest is Sarah Jane.
00:02:34.620 --> 00:02:40.680 Linda Marsanico: Sarah Jane is a complimentary health therapist, author.
00:02:40.870 --> 00:02:45.579 Linda Marsanico: international speaker, program, host and interviewer.
00:02:45.880 --> 00:02:53.299 Linda Marsanico: She also channels messages from mythical beings and dragons, and speaks light language.
00:02:54.290 --> 00:03:01.550 Linda Marsanico: Sarah is the lead author of a new book. I didn't become selfish. I became harder to manipulate.
00:03:02.380 --> 00:03:08.499 Linda Marsanico: bringing together 27 authors to share their stories and wisdom learnt.
00:03:09.740 --> 00:03:13.210 Linda Marsanico: She is the founder of gift of healing TV,
00:03:13.460 --> 00:03:26.820 Linda Marsanico: a live weekly program, sharing health and well-being, interviews, meditations, exercises, and conversations with alternative health practitioners from around the world.
00:03:27.810 --> 00:03:40.140 Linda Marsanico: Sarah is the creator of vocal reiki, a technique that reaches a deep cellular memory level and supports people to reconnect with and heal their inner child.
00:03:40.880 --> 00:03:56.530 Linda Marsanico: A fun fact about Sarah and I didn't know this, and I know Sarah for about 2 years. A fun fact about her is that she used to be a trainee handler with the wolves at the Uk Wolf Conservation Trust. Welcome to the show, Sarah.
00:03:57.070 --> 00:04:01.310 Sara Jane: Thank you, Linda. It's a real pleasure, and I'm glad I surprised you.
00:04:01.310 --> 00:04:02.849 Linda Marsanico: You did, indeed.
00:04:03.390 --> 00:04:08.430 Linda Marsanico: And so we're collaborating. We have collaborated on this wonderful new book.
00:04:08.660 --> 00:04:12.439 Linda Marsanico: I didn't become selfish. I am harder to manipulate.
00:04:12.760 --> 00:04:15.909 Linda Marsanico: Would you tell our listeners how the book came about?
00:04:16.850 --> 00:04:17.750 Sara Jane: Okay.
00:04:18.370 --> 00:04:33.329 Sara Jane: back in. Where are we now? With 2025. Back in March 24, I saw a little post. I think it was on Facebook that said you didn't become selfish. You became harder to manipulate.
00:04:33.730 --> 00:04:36.320 Sara Jane: and that that spoke to me.
00:04:36.820 --> 00:04:48.360 Sara Jane: And I didn't forget it. Yeah. So I'm very good at forgetting things. But those words stuck with me, and I write a monthly article for my own personal website, Vocal Reiki.
00:04:48.880 --> 00:05:00.480 Sara Jane: And I thought, actually, I'm going to write an article on that. You didn't become selfish. You became harder to manipulate. What I always do is I record myself reading that article.
00:05:01.340 --> 00:05:05.019 Sara Jane: and as I did that, and I post it on Youtube.
00:05:05.270 --> 00:05:13.450 Sara Jane: And I put that article up on the 1st of April 2024, all Fool's Day.
00:05:14.230 --> 00:05:18.439 Sara Jane: So of all days of the year it had to be. It was that one.
00:05:18.660 --> 00:05:22.240 Sara Jane: And the following morning I had a message saying.
00:05:22.490 --> 00:05:36.810 Sara Jane: you've got a comment under the video. And it was just like, okay, I went in because I always respond to those comments. All the videos I have up. If there's a comment put under. I respond to them.
00:05:37.810 --> 00:05:45.160 Sara Jane: And it was like 2 or 300 views of the video within 24 h.
00:05:45.350 --> 00:05:54.479 Sara Jane: And it was just. And that never happens. It just never happens. I'm lucky to get to that, you know. A couple of years later yet, let alone with less than 24 h.
00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:59.290 Sara Jane: and it was just like, Oh, okay. And so I responded to the comment.
00:05:59.860 --> 00:06:08.100 Sara Jane: And then more and more comments were coming in, and the views were going up and up and up and over the next months
00:06:08.270 --> 00:06:16.469 Sara Jane: there were there, I believe, now, something like 650 comments without my responses under the video.
00:06:16.470 --> 00:06:17.150 Linda Marsanico: No.
00:06:17.150 --> 00:06:33.539 Sara Jane: From people who were saying, Thank you so much. I don't know how this ended up on my list, but thank you so much. The total, the title just spoke to me, you know, people starting to share their stories, and this is people of all ages and
00:06:33.870 --> 00:06:35.270 Sara Jane: both genders.
00:06:35.840 --> 00:06:43.159 Sara Jane: It's it was everybody. It wasn't limited to any set set, if you like, of people.
00:06:44.290 --> 00:06:47.480 Sara Jane: And I haven't looked for a while now.
00:06:48.200 --> 00:06:53.719 Sara Jane: but it's got up to a hundred 2,000 hits.
00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.329 Linda Marsanico: My goodness.
00:06:56.130 --> 00:06:57.120 Sara Jane: So
00:06:57.410 --> 00:07:06.260 Sara Jane: when I was going through being author in another multi-author book last year, and I'd actually said to my sister, I'm never doing another one, and I've told the universe that.
00:07:06.440 --> 00:07:08.550 Sara Jane: But I had put a proviso on.
00:07:08.810 --> 00:07:16.850 Sara Jane: I had put it's got to be an exceptional title. Yeah topic.
00:07:17.470 --> 00:07:24.839 Sara Jane: and the money's got to be found to do it, because to be part of multi-author books isn't usually a cheap thing to be.
00:07:25.320 --> 00:07:31.550 Sara Jane: And she said to me, Sarah, I hate to say this to you, but you are going to do another multi-author book.
00:07:32.010 --> 00:07:35.239 Sara Jane: and you are going to lead it. And it was just like.
00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:41.069 Sara Jane: okay. Well, that was, I think, in the August last year, 2024.
00:07:41.930 --> 00:07:56.340 Sara Jane: And within a couple of days I knew what the book was to be about, but rather than calling it, you didn't become selfish. It became. I didn't become selfish. I became harder to manipulate.
00:07:57.130 --> 00:08:02.260 Sara Jane: And I'm 1 of these people. I like to do things differently. I don't follow the crowd.
00:08:02.420 --> 00:08:05.130 Sara Jane: and so I just put it out to a group, said.
00:08:05.370 --> 00:08:07.180 Sara Jane: I'm going to be doing this myself.
00:08:07.390 --> 00:08:08.689 Sara Jane: No costs.
00:08:08.820 --> 00:08:15.320 Sara Jane: I'll share the royalties. It is going to be an e-book, and there's going to be. Everyone's going to read their own chapter.
00:08:15.490 --> 00:08:21.619 Sara Jane: and it is going to. There's going to be an audio. And that link to the audio will be in the ebook.
00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:35.269 Sara Jane: So that wasn't going to be a matter of you have to buy one or buy the other. You get the 2 together. So, as I said, I do things differently. So that is how it came about, and that's how you became part of it.
00:08:35.270 --> 00:08:37.900 Linda Marsanico: Yes, now you mentioned
00:08:38.100 --> 00:08:47.459 Linda Marsanico: that when you saw that phrase you didn't become selfish, you became harder to manipulate it resonated with you.
00:08:47.630 --> 00:08:51.760 Linda Marsanico: Can you say something about that resonation.
00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.040 Sara Jane: I think it.
00:08:55.600 --> 00:09:05.560 Sara Jane: I've I've said for a long time, you know, sort of the selfish thing what is selfish, and if
00:09:05.930 --> 00:09:16.409 Sara Jane: I was to say to you sort of Oh, Linda, could you help me with? And you were true to you, for whatever reason you had to say? No.
00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:22.730 Sara Jane: me turning around and calling you selfish, makes me the selfish one
00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:27.370 Sara Jane: for expecting you to do what I wanted you to do
00:09:27.790 --> 00:09:39.310 Sara Jane: with no yeah, no consideration to what might be going on in your own life, and what resonates with you. And so people, I think, have totally distorted this word selfish.
00:09:39.470 --> 00:09:42.929 Sara Jane: and I think that's why it resonated with me.
00:09:43.150 --> 00:09:52.890 Sara Jane: It's because it's the true meaning of the word selfish is the individual who's usually calling you selfish.
00:09:53.580 --> 00:09:56.779 Sara Jane: And so it's because of that word selfish.
00:09:57.250 --> 00:10:01.460 Sara Jane: This resonated with me, and obviously because
00:10:01.580 --> 00:10:07.729 Sara Jane: then listening to the store reading the stories that the people were sharing under the video.
00:10:08.640 --> 00:10:13.450 Sara Jane: And it was just like, Oh, thank you, thank you. Now I know I'm not the selfish one.
00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:21.740 Sara Jane: and that that's what really spoke to me because of how I felt about that word selfish for so long.
00:10:23.220 --> 00:10:25.569 Linda Marsanico: I think it's a spiritual truth.
00:10:25.900 --> 00:10:32.029 Linda Marsanico: I know it is that in order to be compassionate we have to be compassionate with self first, st
00:10:33.310 --> 00:10:44.289 Linda Marsanico: and if we're on a plane with our child or with someone who depends upon us, we need to. If the plane is in some kind of trouble, we need to put our own mask on first, st
00:10:44.520 --> 00:10:46.869 Linda Marsanico: and I think we need to
00:10:48.010 --> 00:10:51.289 Linda Marsanico: reevaluate the word selfish because it's
00:10:51.390 --> 00:10:55.010 Linda Marsanico: healthy to set boundaries to say no to things
00:10:55.950 --> 00:11:08.789 Linda Marsanico: because we allow time for ourselves. If something doesn't fit into our schedule, if someone is too invasive to our boundary, we we set that boundary.
00:11:09.190 --> 00:11:17.199 Linda Marsanico: And so if someone is going to call us selfish, they're not listening to our assertions, which, when I think of assertion, I think of
00:11:17.620 --> 00:11:21.440 Linda Marsanico: getting my needs met while respecting the rights of others.
00:11:22.030 --> 00:11:25.920 Linda Marsanico: and I see assertion as part of compassion.
00:11:26.390 --> 00:11:38.820 Linda Marsanico: because with compassion I need to love myself, and we'll talk about that a bit later on. I need to love myself so that I can love others. I need to have compassion for myself first, st so that I can share that with others.
00:11:38.930 --> 00:11:51.239 Linda Marsanico: And when I 1st said that assertion is part and parcel of compassion, someone said, How could that be so? And I developed my thinking because I want to share that
00:11:51.500 --> 00:11:56.120 Linda Marsanico: with with others, to give us the permission to think of it differently.
00:11:58.010 --> 00:12:03.479 Sara Jane: I think it's thinking about the the actual dictionary definition of the word selfish.
00:12:03.940 --> 00:12:09.320 Sara Jane: And it's basically it's all about self to the detriment of others.
00:12:11.020 --> 00:12:16.390 Linda Marsanico: It's, you know, with absolutely no consideration to other people. So.
00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:21.349 Sara Jane: That's what I was saying. If I said to you, you're being selfish because you said no.
00:12:21.580 --> 00:12:26.939 Sara Jane: it was truly me, being selfish, because I had no consideration for you.
00:12:26.940 --> 00:12:27.740 Linda Marsanico: Minutes.
00:12:28.030 --> 00:12:30.679 Sara Jane: And you sort of talk about boundaries.
00:12:31.190 --> 00:12:36.130 Sara Jane: I was a people pleaser for so many years the.
00:12:36.340 --> 00:12:40.110 Sara Jane: to be perfectly honest, I had no boundaries.
00:12:40.940 --> 00:12:44.239 Sara Jane: because if somebody wanted something from me
00:12:44.560 --> 00:12:46.990 Sara Jane: oh, my video's gone off for some reason.
00:12:47.430 --> 00:12:49.660 Sara Jane: Let's try turning that back on
00:12:50.050 --> 00:12:53.069 Sara Jane: good. Sorry. I don't know why that went off. It did.
00:12:53.070 --> 00:12:54.240 Linda Marsanico: Technology.
00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:59.370 Sara Jane: Yeah, absolutely. So it's it's about.
00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:03.870 Sara Jane: you know, if you've been in that people pleaser place.
00:13:04.650 --> 00:13:10.750 Sara Jane: you've you've been doing everything and anything for others with no consideration for yourself.
00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:18.600 Sara Jane: but in some respects, because you are trying to please others.
00:13:18.920 --> 00:13:23.979 Sara Jane: You're thinking about what you think will please them.
00:13:23.980 --> 00:13:24.820 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:13:24.820 --> 00:13:32.940 Sara Jane: But you're not actually having any consideration for what they might choose.
00:13:33.250 --> 00:13:39.429 Sara Jane: So actually, in some respects, because you're not being totally true to yourself?
00:13:39.710 --> 00:13:44.200 Sara Jane: Are you actually yourself in an aspect of selfishness.
00:13:45.940 --> 00:13:55.210 Linda Marsanico: That dictionary meaning needs to be changed. We're going to be broadcasting this. The dictionary meaning needs to be more flexible and more
00:13:56.470 --> 00:14:01.690 Linda Marsanico: more flexible and and more loving because health
00:14:02.280 --> 00:14:11.689 Linda Marsanico: depends upon it. If I'm going to be people policing, I'm going to be very unhappy on some level. But what I'm now hearing is that we need to take a commercial break.
00:14:12.610 --> 00:14:16.680 Linda Marsanico: and when we come back, Sarah, I'd like to talk about
00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.590 Linda Marsanico: the book. And why now, why are we doing this? Now?
00:14:21.530 --> 00:14:27.340 Linda Marsanico: Listeners do come back to continue this conversation with Sarah.
00:16:23.870 --> 00:16:25.360 Linda Marsanico: Thought I, unmuted.
00:16:25.550 --> 00:16:31.379 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone! Welcome back to the A. Train to Sedona broadcast.
00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:35.989 Linda Marsanico: I'm Linda Marsanico, and I'm here with my guest, Sarah Jane.
00:16:36.680 --> 00:16:44.410 Linda Marsanico: So with the newly published ebook, whose title is, I didn't become selfish. I became harder to manipulate.
00:16:44.640 --> 00:16:47.219 Linda Marsanico: I wonder, Sarah, why now.
00:16:48.990 --> 00:17:06.230 Sara Jane: I think the response to that video was was the Why. Now I was meant to obviously see that little post on Facebook meant to write that article meant to record myself reading it, and I was meant to post it because for it to be
00:17:07.220 --> 00:17:14.579 Sara Jane: watched. I know it was only 2, 3 min video, but for it to be watched by so many people.
00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:26.860 Sara Jane: over 12,000 likes it boosted my followers by over 3,000, you know, to have now a hundred and at least 102,000 hits of the video.
00:17:27.339 --> 00:17:31.409 Sara Jane: That was the universe, saying, Now.
00:17:32.450 --> 00:17:35.970 Linda Marsanico: A 102,000 comments were.
00:17:35.970 --> 00:17:42.550 Sara Jane: No, no, no watches. It was 650 comments. It was 102,000 views.
00:17:42.550 --> 00:17:52.169 Linda Marsanico: So 102,000 people watch the video, and I would think that that would affect them as well. We don't know what they're thinking or feeling, but perhaps
00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.200 Linda Marsanico: they could feel they're not alone
00:17:55.630 --> 00:18:12.709 Linda Marsanico: in their quest to be assertive, because I was thinking I didn't learn how to be assertive in my childhood. I didn't learn how to be assertive in school and and set boundaries, and we have to learn it. If we want to be assertive and setting and be setting boundaries.
00:18:12.860 --> 00:18:16.370 Linda Marsanico: So that's a heck of a response for you.
00:18:17.600 --> 00:18:25.770 Sara Jane: Oh, a hundred percent it it! It totally took my breath away. It really did. Because
00:18:26.970 --> 00:18:36.200 Sara Jane: and that's why I suppose it took my sister, saying what she said for me to get the message the universe was actually giving me.
00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:38.849 Linda Marsanico: The universe works with your sister as well in your.
00:18:41.600 --> 00:18:43.950 Linda Marsanico: It's handy to have siblings like that.
00:18:45.090 --> 00:18:49.989 Sara Jane: So 100%. She she does psychic writings, you know. She she gets.
00:18:50.870 --> 00:19:09.779 Sara Jane: I don't know whether she hears things, but I certainly don't hear and see things, but I know I'm a channel for things. But I wasn't getting the message in spite of. I think it was during sort of like July and August last year the views were going up by one in 2,000 a day.
00:19:12.270 --> 00:19:14.759 Sara Jane: and I wasn't getting the message.
00:19:16.910 --> 00:19:28.990 Linda Marsanico: You know I have a baby sister. I'm the eldest of 4, and something happened in the family, and I wasn't responding in a spiritual way. So, my sister, said Linda.
00:19:29.800 --> 00:19:32.150 Linda Marsanico: this is an opportunity.
00:19:32.410 --> 00:19:46.479 Linda Marsanico: and let's see how it unfolds. But remember the spiritual message here. And I I just stepped back and realized the truth of what she said.
00:19:47.270 --> 00:19:50.288 Sara Jane: And she's my youngest sister as well.
00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:54.269 Linda Marsanico: Sometimes we need a little, a little help from our friends and our sibs.
00:19:55.440 --> 00:20:03.200 Sara Jane: A 100, a hundred percent, as well as though that as friends and and sisters and family.
00:20:03.500 --> 00:20:11.140 Sara Jane: it's realizing that the universe brings us messages in so many different ways.
00:20:11.820 --> 00:20:15.769 Sara Jane: and we can ignore them or we can respond to them.
00:20:16.060 --> 00:20:24.740 Sara Jane: So I responded. So far I just forgot the next bit. I just didn't understand the next bit until Jackie said what she said.
00:20:25.250 --> 00:20:28.369 Linda Marsanico: Sometimes I'm so distracted that I don't hear it.
00:20:28.940 --> 00:20:42.119 Linda Marsanico: and the idea is, you know, as I was saying in my cheat sheet for high vibration. Living being in the present moment is where the action is, because letting go of those distractions allows us to hear the subtle messages.
00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:44.779 Linda Marsanico: It's really very important.
00:20:45.120 --> 00:21:05.919 Sara Jane: But I think at that stage I was still very much getting the comments on a daily basis and sort of people's stories, and they weren't just sort of 2 liners. I was getting sort of big paragraphs, and I was reading all of that. And I was responding to those people, and it wasn't just a couple of words in response. You know I and I think
00:21:06.650 --> 00:21:09.129 Sara Jane: and I remember years ago, when I put
00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:18.780 Sara Jane: a meditation to connect with your guardian dragon up. And people were putting comments under that. And one person put in the comment.
00:21:21.190 --> 00:21:29.979 Sara Jane: I have commented under so many videos here on Youtube, and you are the only person who has ever responded to me.
00:21:30.580 --> 00:21:39.130 Sara Jane: And I find that really sad that people put an awful lot of supportive videos up.
00:21:40.490 --> 00:21:45.760 Sara Jane: But the people that responded to me, I responded back to them
00:21:46.760 --> 00:21:51.949 Sara Jane: and I. So it wasn't just my video that touched their life
00:21:52.840 --> 00:21:57.050 Sara Jane: because we are here to touch other people's lives.
00:21:57.050 --> 00:21:57.450 Linda Marsanico: And.
00:21:57.450 --> 00:22:04.010 Sara Jane: But how many can I touch by inviting all of you to participate in this book?
00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:09.589 Sara Jane: You know the different stories will resonate with different people.
00:22:09.820 --> 00:22:10.610 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:22:10.610 --> 00:22:20.859 Sara Jane: They're not the same. And I've got 7 guys in the book sharing their stories. And for me it was so important
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:23.770 Sara Jane: to get the guys on board as well as the gals.
00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:32.509 Linda Marsanico: Absolutely did they come aboard in volunteering? Did you reach out to them? How did the men come aboard.
00:22:33.220 --> 00:22:38.909 Sara Jane: As with everybody, I reached out to a whole group of people. Some people
00:22:39.250 --> 00:22:44.740 Sara Jane: loved the idea, but it just wasn't right for them at that point in time that you know
00:22:45.380 --> 00:22:47.820 Sara Jane: other life. Things going on.
00:22:47.820 --> 00:22:48.590 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:22:48.750 --> 00:22:52.749 Sara Jane: So to some people were a no, but then there were
00:22:53.310 --> 00:22:56.010 Sara Jane: including myself, 27 of us.
00:22:56.758 --> 00:23:03.141 Sara Jane: And from what I can gather for a multi author book. That's a really good number.
00:23:03.760 --> 00:23:07.890 Linda Marsanico: It's solid. The book is 200 and some odd pages.
00:23:08.150 --> 00:23:11.100 Sara Jane: Yeah, I believe so. I haven't looked for a while. But yes.
00:23:11.100 --> 00:23:14.329 Linda Marsanico: Good read, and I'm continuing to read it.
00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:18.599 Linda Marsanico: And everybody's contact information is there. The videos are.
00:23:19.020 --> 00:23:24.934 Linda Marsanico: So when are there as well? So when the book comes out we'll talk about the book a little later.
00:23:25.540 --> 00:23:28.380 Linda Marsanico: so you have 7 men and
00:23:28.570 --> 00:23:35.440 Linda Marsanico: the rest 20 women. How did you figure out how to place the stories.
00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:47.070 Sara Jane: Oh, I went through so many different things, and in the end I went to my full back, and I wrote everybody's name on a piece of paper.
00:23:47.420 --> 00:23:50.500 Sara Jane: and I put all of those into a jar.
00:23:50.820 --> 00:23:52.649 Sara Jane: I've dropped a load of them on the floor now.
00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:57.959 Sara Jane: and I pulled them out, and the 1st one out had to be, and so I didn't put myself first.st
00:23:58.130 --> 00:24:05.460 Sara Jane: I was going to go wherever I came out, because I thought, that's the only way I can do it.
00:24:05.660 --> 00:24:15.639 Sara Jane: because I thought, Oh, I'll do this then, I thought, no, that's not working when I tried doing it. Oh, I'll try that. That's not working either. So I just thought, you know what.
00:24:15.790 --> 00:24:18.829 Sara Jane: Just let the universe choose.
00:24:19.150 --> 00:24:32.590 Linda Marsanico: You put a lot of effort into this when I think of responding the way you did to all of the comments it says something about you, Sarah, that you are truly devoted to helping and to sharing
00:24:33.360 --> 00:24:36.310 Linda Marsanico: energy and the like.
00:24:38.100 --> 00:24:44.870 Sara Jane: Feel. That's why I'm here. I you know I have a a gift to share. What is it? Sort of? You're all given a gift.
00:24:45.370 --> 00:24:53.519 Sara Jane: It's up to you to unwrap it and to share it. You know I'm not there. Not the exact words in whatever the quote is, but but that's true.
00:24:53.890 --> 00:24:59.749 Sara Jane: and I think we are the gift. It's time to unwrap ourselves.
00:25:00.030 --> 00:25:08.640 Sara Jane: and I also believe that part of that gift is our experiences, and
00:25:09.530 --> 00:25:15.689 Sara Jane: when I sort of did the the book before which was David Macleod's book Gift of Wisdom.
00:25:16.930 --> 00:25:24.920 Sara Jane: One of the things that really came to me when I was sort of writing the chapter and and the the bits that we got to share after it. It was just like.
00:25:26.570 --> 00:25:31.580 Sara Jane: actually, Do you know what? It's not about our actual story.
00:25:31.970 --> 00:25:36.429 Sara Jane: It's about how what happened to us made us feel
00:25:37.710 --> 00:25:46.379 Sara Jane: so. People haven't got to read a story and think, oh, that's exactly what happened to me. It doesn't matter when we start reading
00:25:46.670 --> 00:25:49.810 Sara Jane: how it made the individual feel.
00:25:50.090 --> 00:25:54.119 Sara Jane: They are usually where we think I get that
00:25:54.670 --> 00:26:02.540 Sara Jane: I absolutely. That is how I was feeling, and it's the feelings that were engendered in us when we went through what we went through.
00:26:04.660 --> 00:26:14.490 Sara Jane: and that is what I think is the deepest resonance with with people. It's they get it.
00:26:14.490 --> 00:26:14.950 Linda Marsanico: Thank you.
00:26:14.950 --> 00:26:18.120 Sara Jane: I understand they've been through it.
00:26:18.360 --> 00:26:22.669 Sara Jane: And do you know what if I can come through what I went through?
00:26:24.280 --> 00:26:31.059 Sara Jane: And it's not the same story in. I didn't become selfish. It's a totally different story because of
00:26:31.170 --> 00:26:34.250 Sara Jane: of what it was. You know what we were sharing.
00:26:35.580 --> 00:26:41.699 Sara Jane: But if if all of us all. 27 of us got through what we went through.
00:26:43.100 --> 00:26:45.569 Sara Jane: Others can do exactly the same.
00:26:46.280 --> 00:26:53.989 Sara Jane: We had to find that inner strength, that inner compassion for ourselves, that inner love.
00:26:54.130 --> 00:27:00.090 Sara Jane: that in a confidence that in a believing and trusting in ourselves
00:27:00.300 --> 00:27:04.680 Sara Jane: for us to be able to get through what we went through
00:27:05.060 --> 00:27:13.409 Sara Jane: to be able to come out the other side and say to others, No, it stops here.
00:27:14.770 --> 00:27:17.259 Sara Jane: I am now setting my boundaries.
00:27:18.300 --> 00:27:22.280 Sara Jane: I have too much respect for myself
00:27:22.780 --> 00:27:24.659 Sara Jane: to put up with this anymore.
00:27:26.350 --> 00:27:30.890 Linda Marsanico: And the stories go through the depths of the trauma.
00:27:30.890 --> 00:27:31.470 Sara Jane: Yeah.
00:27:31.470 --> 00:27:34.619 Linda Marsanico: What people went through. Yet we come out
00:27:35.090 --> 00:27:46.999 Linda Marsanico: as survivors, and more in an upbeat fashion. In my chapter your chapter is 10, mine is 20. I talk about all the things that I've learned how to do.
00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:51.400 Linda Marsanico: and with a reevaluation of the situation, and
00:27:52.190 --> 00:27:56.509 Linda Marsanico: I'll look at it from the current perspective.
00:27:56.620 --> 00:28:01.819 Linda Marsanico: I wouldn't be the person I am today without it, and it's a gift. It was a gift.
00:28:02.380 --> 00:28:08.260 Linda Marsanico: And so the stories end on that upbeat note, and they share, and we share
00:28:09.630 --> 00:28:18.220 Linda Marsanico: tips and strategies and ways of living again, and not just existing, living a full life.
00:28:19.020 --> 00:28:45.079 Linda Marsanico: And that's exciting. I mean, when I think of the being on the spiritual path and the bumps, and the way the road twists and turns, it's an adventure if we look at it like that? What's going to happen today? What will universe put in my path? I remember reading about a woman who was walking down the street. A car swerved, a book fell out. She picked it up and she said, it changed my life.
00:28:46.230 --> 00:28:49.569 Linda Marsanico: That's 1 other way of universe waking us up.
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:54.719 Sara Jane: Yeah 100%, you know, sort of
00:28:55.020 --> 00:29:03.320 Sara Jane: all. Those. Years ago the trauma I went through the wake. Up came with a broken jaw, and 6 months of pain and sleepless nights.
00:29:03.740 --> 00:29:07.200 Sara Jane: But if I hadn't had that
00:29:07.510 --> 00:29:13.089 Sara Jane: one of the best things that ever happened to me because it
00:29:13.660 --> 00:29:22.240 Sara Jane: so drained me. I was so exhausted with 6 months of pain and sleepless nights I couldn't continue
00:29:22.890 --> 00:29:30.730 Sara Jane: being the people pleaser, running at home gratefully. I didn't have children working full time studying. It's just like
00:29:31.710 --> 00:29:34.676 Sara Jane: it. It actually all had to give.
00:29:36.950 --> 00:29:47.640 Linda Marsanico: It all had to go, and in a sense you were at Rock Bottom, and the way to go was to go up. Now I'm being told that we have
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.859 Linda Marsanico: time for commercial break.
00:29:49.980 --> 00:30:06.290 Linda Marsanico: and when we come back I'd like to talk about. I didn't become selfish. I became harder to manipulate that it's available as an ebook. And then there are other plans. So stay tuned. Listeners come back to us after the break to hear the lowdown.
00:31:52.810 --> 00:31:59.190 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the A. Train to Sedona broadcast.
00:31:59.450 --> 00:32:04.360 Linda Marsanico: I'm Linda Morrisonico with my guest, Sarah Jane, Sarah.
00:32:04.540 --> 00:32:11.590 Linda Marsanico: I didn't become selfish I became harder to manipulate. Is an ebook. Tell our listeners about the new plans.
00:32:13.040 --> 00:32:21.089 Sara Jane: Okay. My original aim was that it was going to be an ebook with the audio, the links inside in the ebooks you get both.
00:32:21.320 --> 00:32:25.620 Sara Jane: But yes, the idea of having it as a physical book
00:32:25.850 --> 00:32:52.310 Sara Jane: which I knew was going to create me much more work than I had time for at the time of, because I knew that the 1st of April 2024 was when the video went up that created all of this, and I knew the book had to be published on the 1st of April 2025. This is just the universe. This this is what I was being told.
00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:56.629 Sara Jane: And so I knew. I know what I'm like with technology.
00:32:57.116 --> 00:33:00.379 Sara Jane: It freaks me out a lot of the time. So.
00:33:00.380 --> 00:33:01.939 Linda Marsanico: You're not alone. You're not alone. Good!
00:33:02.426 --> 00:33:09.230 Sara Jane: So I accepted. I wasn't gonna push myself beyond what I could cope with.
00:33:10.600 --> 00:33:14.570 Sara Jane: That was really important. But what I've asked all the authors is.
00:33:14.710 --> 00:33:27.050 Sara Jane: what I would like to do is create a gathering. So not a summit. Personally, I believe those have become a little bit old hat. You see a summit. And you're thinking, okay, fine. There's loads of those out there.
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:33.329 Sara Jane: It's a gathering. So I'm going to be recording conversations with 2 of you at a time.
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.390 Sara Jane: and we're going to take things a bit beyond
00:33:36.620 --> 00:33:49.410 Sara Jane: where the book. So we're not going to just be sharing what's in the book. And I believe these conversations are going to be really, really powerful, and the aim is to put those out at some stage in October.
00:33:49.610 --> 00:33:57.220 Sara Jane: At the moment. I'm getting the sense 1st of October, and the book will the physical book. So it'll be a relaunch.
00:33:57.350 --> 00:34:01.709 Sara Jane: Now, I'm saying 1st of October 2025. At the moment.
00:34:01.910 --> 00:34:18.790 Sara Jane: We're going to see how things go, because obviously there is work to be done. But I also appreciate we're in July. We've got August coming up. Certainly in the northern hemisphere. It's summer, and a lot of people are thinking about holidays, etc.
00:34:19.230 --> 00:34:23.239 Sara Jane: So the aim is, we'll be doing the recordings in September.
00:34:23.409 --> 00:34:26.590 Sara Jane: and the aim is probably over a week.
00:34:26.980 --> 00:34:29.810 Sara Jane: Then release potentially a couple a day.
00:34:30.249 --> 00:34:37.259 Sara Jane: So that people might be, you know, might be a bit more than that, I don't know. It might be 10 days, whatever it's going to be.
00:34:37.810 --> 00:34:44.049 Sara Jane: Release a couple a day and then. But let people know that the physical book is out there as well.
00:34:44.230 --> 00:35:03.759 Sara Jane: So there's work for us all to do in the meantime. But we're going to have some summer months, you know, some rest and relaxation and all, so to get us through. And I know that I needed that, after all the work that had to be put in, and don't get me wrong. I had a massive support.
00:35:04.335 --> 00:35:08.020 Sara Jane: Jos, who's in the book, hey?
00:35:08.390 --> 00:35:26.059 Sara Jane: Works? He works with music. He records all the time, he said. Oh, if you can get me the recordings, I will create the audio, and it's just the audio of the chapters haven't gone into all the rest of the book. So because you've got it inside the ebook, anyway.
00:35:27.640 --> 00:35:29.430 Sara Jane: So the audio's there.
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.950 Sara Jane: And then Jean voiced Art.
00:35:34.080 --> 00:35:39.989 Sara Jane: She just sent me a cover for the book, and it was just like.
00:35:40.250 --> 00:35:48.450 Sara Jane: Oh, wow! And so for the gathering, I've my sister's helped me because she's much more technically minded.
00:35:49.088 --> 00:35:55.659 Sara Jane: With creating a background. So if you've ever seen the cover of the book, which is like a beach scene.
00:35:55.660 --> 00:35:56.130 Linda Marsanico: Yes.
00:35:56.130 --> 00:36:14.440 Sara Jane: So it's like the line in the sand. But that's created by, because that's what we do. There's a line in the sand when we start setting those boundaries, and we start saying, No, you're not stepping across that anymore. And so it's lovely. With a little sort of sunset at the background sort of and and a figure there at the front.
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:44.299 Sara Jane: And so it's just created like beach scene between 2 Junes, with a couple of cushions and a seat in the sunset, with a campfire and some candles sort of in the sand. So it's a beautiful background for us to be able to sit in and have our conversation. So the aim is, and it will be sometime in October whether it will be the first.st But that would be exactly 6 months after the initial release.
00:36:44.510 --> 00:36:47.879 Sara Jane: But we'll see what happens. We'll see how well things go.
00:36:48.676 --> 00:36:59.430 Sara Jane: But yes, and then Nicole did some lovely, some banners for us and things, with all our chapters, etc. And a little video. And people did these things without being asked.
00:37:00.538 --> 00:37:07.890 Sara Jane: So it was. So it's been a real collaboration, not just on. And then so many of us.
00:37:08.130 --> 00:37:13.339 Sara Jane: You've got your program and you've invited me on and several others we've
00:37:13.610 --> 00:37:21.739 Sara Jane: and we've done a whole series on our today's conversation program on gift of healing TV with the authors that's still running at the moment.
00:37:21.950 --> 00:37:30.459 Sara Jane: So yes, we are all collaborating. We're all talking, and we're all getting to know each other. And that's beautiful.
00:37:31.260 --> 00:37:41.520 Linda Marsanico: It is spiritually like-minded people creating more wonderful energy. Yeah, now, I ask you to clarify something in the physical book
00:37:41.730 --> 00:37:43.920 Linda Marsanico: that's coming out in October.
00:37:44.030 --> 00:37:45.970 Linda Marsanico: Will there be an audio.
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:58.770 Sara Jane: My aim is that because the audio that's been put into the ebook is been I'm trying to think who it was that was kind enough to set it up. One of those QR codes.
00:37:59.670 --> 00:38:08.260 Sara Jane: So if the QR code is in the ebook, I'm assuming you can just put that QR code into the physical book.
00:38:08.720 --> 00:38:13.800 Sara Jane: I because I don't do those phones. I don't know anything about them.
00:38:14.210 --> 00:38:16.340 Linda Marsanico: Yeah, you put the phone onto the queue
00:38:16.580 --> 00:38:20.639 Linda Marsanico: QR code and then you'd get the the the audio link.
00:38:21.120 --> 00:38:23.230 Linda Marsanico: Another clarification.
00:38:23.770 --> 00:38:36.759 Linda Marsanico: When you got the information from universe through your sister again for your sister. Was it just for the ebook? Because I'm wondering whether you had a separate awakening
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.830 Linda Marsanico: to produce the physical book.
00:38:41.260 --> 00:38:50.370 Sara Jane: I think it was about me actually saying, What can I cope with? What do I feel? I can do?
00:38:51.827 --> 00:38:53.590 Sara Jane: And it was
00:38:53.900 --> 00:39:06.839 Sara Jane: it was actually about 6, 7 years ago. I did a lovely little book with Jill Matson. She done the the images, but it's a poetry book.
00:39:07.090 --> 00:39:10.820 Sara Jane: whispers from the heart and poems that I've channeled.
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:15.840 Sara Jane: and I'd got it ready. But she said, Oh, do it as a physical book.
00:39:16.510 --> 00:39:19.179 Sara Jane: and it was just like I went to try and do it.
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:25.510 Sara Jane: and the technical stuff behind it just blew my mind.
00:39:26.750 --> 00:39:39.019 Sara Jane: and it was just like I can't. So that book is now up as an ebook at long last. But it is not a physical book. I've still got that to do. But if I'm going to do this one as a physical book.
00:39:39.160 --> 00:39:42.529 Sara Jane: I am going to do the other one as a physical book as well.
00:39:43.186 --> 00:39:48.209 Sara Jane: And there are 2 poems that I've put into. I didn't become selfish.
00:39:49.130 --> 00:39:58.290 Sara Jane: Butterfly and tears, and those poems came to me for the this book. I didn't become selfish.
00:39:59.530 --> 00:40:06.690 Linda Marsanico: So you'll have 2 physical books under your belt in addition to elders wisdom, if I'm getting that, what is.
00:40:06.690 --> 00:40:09.570 Sara Jane: It was no, it became gifts of wisdom.
00:40:09.570 --> 00:40:13.461 Linda Marsanico: It's of wisdom. Yes, the original tile was. I won't even mention it again.
00:40:13.740 --> 00:40:30.099 Sara Jane: But I'm actually also a multi-author, an author in another multi-author book, going back quite a few years, and it was sort of like no mistakes, and I can't remember the rest of the title at the moment, which was published through high reform publishing under Andy Davila.
00:40:31.990 --> 00:40:43.679 Sara Jane: So so that was a few years ago, and I'm now doing another one with Jean. Jean voiced art expressive arts, supporting people with stress. So
00:40:43.910 --> 00:40:48.959 Sara Jane: it's yeah. I'm doing it again, so that will be 4.
00:40:49.780 --> 00:40:51.520 Linda Marsanico: Bore books, and
00:40:52.140 --> 00:40:59.179 Linda Marsanico: you will be publishing the hard physical book. Have you chosen a publisher? How will you go about that?
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:08.950 Sara Jane: Jean's helping me with that, because she's got she. She will help people publish books. She's she's got her own little publishing company.
00:41:10.069 --> 00:41:15.439 Sara Jane: So bless her! She's she's offered to support with that for all of us.
00:41:15.650 --> 00:41:17.409 Linda Marsanico: And what is the company? Name?
00:41:17.520 --> 00:41:19.736 Sara Jane: I can't remember offhand.
00:41:20.610 --> 00:41:23.546 Linda Marsanico: We'll have to talk about that. It's certainly of interest.
00:41:24.860 --> 00:41:26.759 Linda Marsanico: so we have a few minutes.
00:41:27.240 --> 00:41:40.860 Linda Marsanico: So the authors have been joining you on today's conversation. I was with you last week on today's conversation right after I broadcasted here 2 30, I went on to join you and Scott and Beth.
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:46.610 Linda Marsanico: Other plans for the book, the physical book.
00:41:48.010 --> 00:41:49.270 Sara Jane: At the moment.
00:41:49.440 --> 00:42:03.760 Sara Jane: you know. Sort of that's it. But you know, I've so Sarah Troy has her own, and I know that's gonna be really confusing, because I'm spelled Sara. But, said Sarah, she spelt Sara and said, Sarah.
00:42:04.710 --> 00:42:20.859 Sara Jane: but Sarah Troy's got her own programs, and so she's invited me on, and I sort of shared on that. And Linda Bins, she's also invited me, and we've had a conversation and sort of with David, because there are an awful lot of us within the book.
00:42:21.230 --> 00:42:29.749 Sara Jane: who who actually do something similar or yeah in their own. Your own unique way, I don't call mine a podcast
00:42:30.271 --> 00:42:34.290 Sara Jane: any more than you do because you're on talk radio.
00:42:34.600 --> 00:42:47.389 Sara Jane: But there are those who say, I've got my own podcast will, you come on so the more of that we all do to support each other, not just from the book perspective, but also from
00:42:47.600 --> 00:42:56.550 Sara Jane: what we actually all do. Sharing that to me was what gift of healing TV was always about
00:42:56.940 --> 00:43:07.700 Sara Jane: is helping people to share what they do. That's what I believe these multi author books are. They support people to know they're not alone
00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:14.509 Sara Jane: that people are there and they do understand, but it's also supporting the authors
00:43:15.030 --> 00:43:19.620 Sara Jane: with supporting in actually their own unique ways.
00:43:20.680 --> 00:43:27.060 Linda Marsanico: And spreading this energy, to inform, to help, to support, as you say.
00:43:27.950 --> 00:43:32.499 Linda Marsanico: complementary ways of healing and thinking and acting.
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:33.340 Sara Jane: Yeah.
00:43:33.340 --> 00:43:35.940 Linda Marsanico: It's a very important effort.
00:43:36.220 --> 00:43:39.789 Linda Marsanico: How long ago did you start gift of healing TV?
00:43:41.080 --> 00:43:43.059 Sara Jane: 2,014.
00:43:44.100 --> 00:43:45.610 Linda Marsanico: So you're 11 years.
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.320 Sara Jane: In September, and you broadcast that all on your own.
00:43:51.710 --> 00:43:52.896 Sara Jane: Yep, absolutely.
00:43:54.710 --> 00:44:00.370 Linda Marsanico: Amazing. You really learn what you need to learn to produce what you'd like to produce.
00:44:03.330 --> 00:44:07.160 Sara Jane: I I'm 1 of these people. I like to think, keep things simple.
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:15.119 Sara Jane: and if I can do things the simplest way, I will do it the simplest way. I can't see the point of making things more complicated than they have to be.
00:44:16.770 --> 00:44:22.699 Linda Marsanico: Well in your in your way to do things simply. You've added a lot of complexity to your life.
00:44:23.305 --> 00:44:24.174 Sara Jane: Oh yes!
00:44:25.048 --> 00:44:27.681 Linda Marsanico: But you've done it simply. And
00:44:28.240 --> 00:44:33.180 Linda Marsanico: you've you've drawn people to you with expertise. That helps.
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:34.250 Sara Jane: Oh!
00:44:34.250 --> 00:44:35.819 Linda Marsanico: That's part of the journey.
00:44:35.820 --> 00:44:39.210 Sara Jane: Yeah 100% 100%.
00:44:39.390 --> 00:44:40.000 Linda Marsanico: Hmm!
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:46.700 Linda Marsanico: So we're getting ready for a break now, and when we come back
00:44:47.190 --> 00:44:52.830 Linda Marsanico: I would like to talk about the role of spirituality in your life, and
00:44:53.220 --> 00:44:56.939 Linda Marsanico: we'll have a lovely conversation for the last quarter of the show.
00:44:57.150 --> 00:45:02.139 Linda Marsanico: So listeners do join us after the break.
00:46:35.270 --> 00:46:36.850 Linda Marsanico: Hello, everyone!
00:46:36.970 --> 00:46:45.010 Linda Marsanico: Welcome back to the a stranger, Sedona broadcast. I'm Linda Marsanica with my guest, Sarah Jane
00:46:45.310 --> 00:46:50.040 Linda Marsanico: and Sarah. It occurred to me to ask if there's
00:46:50.270 --> 00:46:54.419 Linda Marsanico: something else, whether there are any other details about the book.
00:46:54.730 --> 00:47:02.720 Linda Marsanico: what your feelings are about the book having come so far with it before we go on to some other topics.
00:47:04.970 --> 00:47:08.849 Sara Jane: I just feel so very blessed
00:47:09.140 --> 00:47:13.169 Sara Jane: with those of you that shared your story.
00:47:13.430 --> 00:47:17.700 Sara Jane: And it. They were stories that literally took people.
00:47:19.180 --> 00:47:24.090 Sara Jane: I think some of you have actually said that by writing your story
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:32.290 Sara Jane: it's been very cathartic and healing for yourself to write it so so
00:47:32.470 --> 00:47:37.910 Sara Jane: to have people do what they did to participate in this book.
00:47:38.380 --> 00:47:50.049 Sara Jane: to participate in recording their chapters, because I really wished the individual who went through what they went through to read their own chapter.
00:47:50.350 --> 00:47:54.789 Sara Jane: so that they were speaking from their heart.
00:47:55.030 --> 00:47:56.519 Sara Jane: I was very.
00:47:56.720 --> 00:48:04.730 Sara Jane: It was to me it was very important, because I've got people in the Us. Canada, Uk. Europe, China.
00:48:05.410 --> 00:48:16.979 Sara Jane: In the book that I said, write as you speak, also punctuate as you speak spell as you speak.
00:48:17.140 --> 00:48:27.609 Sara Jane: because and I know some people said, No, no, it's got to be uniform. And I said, No, no, it hasn't, because we're unique individuals, and we come from different cultures.
00:48:28.160 --> 00:48:53.020 Sara Jane: And for me it's important that we do that. It's not all American spelling or English spelling, or whatever. But everybody's obviously had to write in English, but it's accepting. Yeah, it's not trying to. Oh, no, you can't put it that way, because you actually happen to have the German tongue. But you're writing in English, so I feel blessed that people all around the world
00:48:53.740 --> 00:48:58.109 Sara Jane: actually chose to participate in this book.
00:48:59.590 --> 00:49:02.200 Linda Marsanico: 27 people are a lot
00:49:03.430 --> 00:49:09.120 Linda Marsanico: that shows a devotion and sharing a willingness to share, and also
00:49:09.640 --> 00:49:12.839 Linda Marsanico: taking in the neurodivergent, you asked
00:49:13.690 --> 00:49:16.050 Linda Marsanico: us to use a certain type
00:49:16.350 --> 00:49:19.120 Linda Marsanico: which you gave us. I don't know how you got that to me.
00:49:19.240 --> 00:49:26.180 Linda Marsanico: but you did, and you paragraphed it so that the neurodivergent would find it easier to follow.
00:49:26.830 --> 00:49:31.939 Linda Marsanico: So much care went into all aspects of this book.
00:49:32.950 --> 00:49:45.380 Sara Jane: That was guided by my youngest sister, because Jackie, at the age of 55, was diagnosed with dyslexia adht on the autism spectrum
00:49:45.720 --> 00:49:49.190 Sara Jane: and complicated Ptsd.
00:49:52.580 --> 00:50:01.070 Sara Jane: so you know, there are certain fonts that people with dyslexia really have difficulty reading.
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:08.930 Sara Jane: and it was listening to her long paragraphs. I so rarely write a long paragraph.
00:50:09.860 --> 00:50:29.939 Sara Jane: you know I really do rarely do it. And so that it was the encouragement of the authors. Okay, can we short not shorten the paragraphs in respect to taking information out, but turn a long paragraph into several paragraphs, and if only I'd have realized with Jean, and she never said anything at the time.
00:50:30.190 --> 00:50:31.770 Sara Jane: but Jean
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:39.240 Sara Jane: Her difficulties mean that if we can subhead sections
00:50:39.640 --> 00:50:46.789 Sara Jane: it makes it easier for her to follow. So I wish I'd known that at the time. I'm not going to go back through and change it now.
00:50:46.940 --> 00:51:01.419 Sara Jane: But if with subheadings throughout, it makes her easier for her. This is what Jackie said, the long paragraphs. I lose my place, and I'm reading the same section time and time again. If I get interrupted.
00:51:02.340 --> 00:51:08.834 Sara Jane: and it's thinking about that, and realizing that I've probably got aspects of dyslexia as well.
00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:19.020 Linda Marsanico: Well, some one of my guests, Rebecca Hilogist, said that it is her opinion that the neurodiversion is the new normal.
00:51:19.580 --> 00:51:21.300 Sara Jane: Yeah. Oh, I couldn't agree. Yeah.
00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:29.400 Linda Marsanico: Yeah. And I think that so-called the autism spectrum that these young kids are coming in to teach us.
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:29.860 Sara Jane: Yeah.
00:51:29.860 --> 00:51:35.160 Linda Marsanico: How learning can happen to allow us to be more sensitive to all of this.
00:51:35.310 --> 00:51:35.880 Sara Jane: Yeah.
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:46.740 Linda Marsanico: So I wanted to ask you. We have a bit of time left before we close. What is the role of spirituality in your life, Sarah?
00:51:48.080 --> 00:51:55.450 Sara Jane: As a very big role. Although I was raised a Catholic and very much believe in the angelic realm.
00:51:56.810 --> 00:52:15.899 Sara Jane: my! I've shifted away from what I consider to be man-made religions. And I consider myself considerably more spiritual because my beliefs, as in the introduction, it was just like I Channel dragons and mythical beings. I speak like language.
00:52:17.870 --> 00:52:22.429 Sara Jane: I think there's an awful lot that I do, that I channel I channel the toning
00:52:23.213 --> 00:52:25.979 Sara Jane: the for the vocal reiki.
00:52:28.210 --> 00:52:31.150 Sara Jane: So to me
00:52:31.310 --> 00:52:42.179 Sara Jane: it's about being spiritual, because I have no idea who I'm channeling. I just know that I not with with the not with the sound, with the toning.
00:52:43.180 --> 00:52:54.280 Sara Jane: I just know that the highest energies that wish to work with me work with me, because that is that is what I have asked. That is the intention that I have set
00:52:55.030 --> 00:52:57.420 Sara Jane: when I'm speaking light language.
00:52:58.060 --> 00:53:00.770 Sara Jane: I have no idea what I'm saying.
00:53:00.890 --> 00:53:02.020 Sara Jane: None.
00:53:02.780 --> 00:53:03.560 Sara Jane: And
00:53:03.830 --> 00:53:10.519 Sara Jane: some people have said, Oh, it can be translated, but my feeling is, it's the language of our soul.
00:53:11.160 --> 00:53:14.559 Sara Jane: and therefore our heart and our soul understand it.
00:53:14.700 --> 00:53:23.700 Sara Jane: This doesn't, and for me it's not meant to, because it can't then misinterpret it or reinterpret it in a different way.
00:53:24.370 --> 00:53:30.530 Sara Jane: So your heart and your soul are hearing it in its perfect form.
00:53:31.520 --> 00:53:43.809 Sara Jane: I was at a light worker's lunch only last Friday, and one of the guys stood up, and he sort of said about those of you that channel. And there were a lot of us there that that channel
00:53:44.140 --> 00:53:49.759 Sara Jane: it isn't about. Then putting it into AI because you channel it
00:53:50.600 --> 00:53:55.149 Sara Jane: perfectly the way it is intended to be put out there.
00:53:55.650 --> 00:54:02.330 Sara Jane: When you put it into AI and you get it reworded, it can lose actually the meaning.
00:54:04.190 --> 00:54:13.470 Sara Jane: And it was just like, Do you know, I'm it because I'm I'm I'm yeah. My youngest sister loves AI, and I'm really wary of AI.
00:54:15.130 --> 00:54:19.769 Sara Jane: So it. And so it is about the spiritual aspect
00:54:20.160 --> 00:54:22.889 Sara Jane: of of what I'm here to do.
00:54:22.890 --> 00:54:23.280 Linda Marsanico: And.
00:54:23.300 --> 00:54:30.960 Sara Jane: I remember years ago, standing in a holistic fair that I'd organized and thinking.
00:54:31.200 --> 00:54:38.359 Sara Jane: how many lives can I touch? And this is before the Internet was the the way it is today. How many lives can I touch?
00:54:38.500 --> 00:54:43.190 Sara Jane: But if I support so many more people to get out there.
00:54:43.340 --> 00:54:46.429 Sara Jane: how many more lives can we touch?
00:54:47.270 --> 00:54:52.739 Sara Jane: It's an acceptance that not everyone will resonate with me, and what I do.
00:54:53.130 --> 00:54:56.250 Sara Jane: because I'm not right for everyone.
00:54:58.100 --> 00:55:01.780 Sara Jane: and when we can accept the fact that
00:55:02.200 --> 00:55:08.579 Sara Jane: Grandmother Turtle said, the more we share, the more we care, the more love there is in the world.
00:55:09.890 --> 00:55:16.410 Sara Jane: So what you do with your program what I do with mine? What so many others do with their programs
00:55:16.510 --> 00:55:19.690 Sara Jane: we're sharing. We're supporting others to get out there.
00:55:19.830 --> 00:55:22.830 Sara Jane: That sharing is the caring. That is the love.
00:55:23.410 --> 00:55:33.239 Linda Marsanico: Yes, let's been so sweet to have you on the a change at Sedona to talk about
00:55:33.540 --> 00:55:38.750 Linda Marsanico: the collaboration of the book. I didn't become selfish. I became harder to manipulate.
00:55:38.980 --> 00:55:40.870 Linda Marsanico: Where can people find you?
00:55:41.830 --> 00:55:46.350 Sara Jane: They can find me on vocalraiki.com.
00:55:47.050 --> 00:56:02.930 Sara Jane: and that vocal reiki is all one word. And also, if people are interested in learning more about loads of different techniques, every single program that we've ever done on gift of healing TV. They're all there on the catch up pages, interviews, meditations, exercises
00:56:03.820 --> 00:56:07.019 Sara Jane: gift of healingtv.com
00:56:07.841 --> 00:56:14.330 Sara Jane: and if people want to learn more about the messages from dragons and and the mythical beings.
00:56:14.570 --> 00:56:20.620 Sara Jane: then that's on our magicalfriends.com.
00:56:21.520 --> 00:56:26.670 Sara Jane: I share a monthly light language message. They're all on the vocal Reiki website.
00:56:27.220 --> 00:56:42.589 Linda Marsanico: Thank you so much, Sarah. Listeners, I want to let you know that next week Jordan of Jordan's apothecary will be on the show. She talks about trauma, and she has wonderful skills to help people work this through
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:50.200 Linda Marsanico: Sarah again. Such a a sweet, joyful episode with you
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:55.444 Linda Marsanico: and I look forward to seeing you soon on my show, your show, or somebody else's.
00:56:56.580 --> 00:56:58.299 Sara Jane: Hopefully, our gathering.
00:56:58.460 --> 00:56:59.340 Linda Marsanico: Indeed.
00:57:00.810 --> 00:57:03.740 Sara Jane: Thank you, Linda. It's been an absolute pleasure, as always.
00:57:04.030 --> 00:57:05.839 Linda Marsanico: Lovely. You're so welcome.
00:57:07.030 --> 00:57:11.450 Linda Marsanico: I think we're going off to the end of the show. That break
00:57:11.690 --> 00:57:13.829 Linda Marsanico: parting is sweet sorrow. I must say.
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