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Sport isn’t just a game—it’s a mirror of society and a powerful, untapped educational force with implications for life, learning, and leading. Tune in for an honest, inspiring, and research-backed conversation that might just change your perspectives on sports, yourself, and leadership.
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In this episode, Dr. Erianne Weight joins us to examine the leadership pipeline in sport—from the foundational levels of youth coaching to the high-stakes environments of college and professional athletics. We explore the systemic flaws that limit both athlete and coach development, and how these challenges reflect broader issues in leadership and education. As Dr. Weight puts it, "If we truly want to develop leaders and experts—not just in sport, but in life—we have to stop treating sport like a sideshow and start recognizing it as a core part of education." Dr. Weight will describe how sport and education should go hand-in-hand and how it can be a powerful vehicle for developing expertise, identity, and leadership capacity. This conversation is for anyone interested in personal growth, organizational change, or rethinking the role of sport in society.
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ABOUT OUR GUEST:
Dr. Erianne Weight is a Professor of Sport Administration at UNC-Chapel Hill and Director of the Center for Research in Intercollegiate Athletics. A former Division I heptathlete, she holds a Ph.D. in Sport Management from Indiana University, an M.B.A. from the University of Utah, and a Bachelor's degree in Exercise and Sport Science. She has published over 100 peer-reviewed works on college sport, leadership, and systemic reform. Her research focuses on aligning athletic systems with educational values, advancing athlete well-being, and developing pathways for expertise development. Passionate about education and equity, Dr. Weight is helping shape the future of sport through both scholarship and practice.
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On this episode of The Hard Skills, Dr. Mira Brancu explores how lessons from elite athletics can inform leadership development, resilience, and mentorship at the highest levels. Guest Dr. Erianne Weight—an academic leader, former Division I heptathlete, and sport management expert—shares how mental and physical endurance, feedback from trusted mentors, and embracing failure have shaped her path toward excellence. Their conversation reveals that combining personal passion with evidence-based practice not only accelerates growth but also uncovers untapped potential within both individuals and systems.
In this powerful segment of The Hard Skills, Dr. Mira Brancu and Dr. Erianne Weight unpack the immense influence leaders—whether coaches or team managers—have on individuals’ well-being and career trajectories. Dr. Weight highlights the lack of formal training or credentialing in coaching and leadership roles, despite their high-stakes impact, and challenges the outdated educational system that undervalues the body in favor of cognitive development alone. Drawing parallels between sport and leadership, she advocates for a systemic shift that recognizes athletic expertise as educationally and societally valuable, warning that long-standing classism and racism—embedded in concepts like amateurism—continue to limit that progress.
In this compelling segment of The Hard Skills, Dr. Erianne Weight unpacks the deep historical roots of amateurism in sport—revealing how a seemingly noble ideal of “playing for the love of the game” masked a long legacy of classism and racism. She explains how barriers like expensive club sports, lack of mentorship, and systemic undervaluing of physical intelligence keep many young people—especially those from marginalized backgrounds—locked out of opportunity. Dr. Weight calls for a radical rethinking of education: treating sport not as extracurricular, but as essential—rich with science, psychology, and leadership development. Through research, she’s helping athletes reframe their identities—not just as students or players, but as scientists and scholars in their own right.
In this powerful closing segment of The Hard Skills, Dr. Erianne Weight draws a vivid connection between elite athletic performance and the emotional endurance required for leadership. Using the grueling 800-meter race in the heptathlon as a metaphor, she outlines a mindset of strategic pacing, mental grit, and pushing through discomfort—one that she's applied to everything from childbirth to academic tenure. Her insights reveal that persistence isn't innate—it's taught, mentored, and practiced, and sport offers a model for that training. Dr. Weight underscores the data-backed link between athletic participation and leadership success, especially among women in the C-suite. She invites listeners to embrace #SportIsScience as a way to celebrate and democratize the educational value of sport, and she and Dr. Mira Brancu call on us to apply those lessons to all areas of life, leadership, and personal growth.
00:01:03.190 --> 00:01:21.090 Mira Brancu: Welcome. Welcome back to the hard skills show where we take a deep dive into the most challenging soft skills required to navigate leadership, uncertainty, complexities and change today and into the future. I'm your host, Dr. Mira Branku, psychologist, leadership, consultant and founder of towerscope.
00:01:21.570 --> 00:01:26.359 Mira Brancu: What can sport teach us about life, learning and leading.
00:01:26.610 --> 00:01:35.660 Mira Brancu: What can we learn about the leadership, pipeline and systemic challenges in the world of sports that can be applied to all kinds of leadership and organizational challenges.
00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:48.279 Mira Brancu: It's a really good question and great fit for this season's focus on endurance and leadership. So whether you're a leader managing a team or simply trying to support your colleagues. This conversation, I think, is for you.
00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:52.719 Mira Brancu: Let me introduce our guest today, Dr. Arian Allen Waite.
00:01:53.120 --> 00:02:13.880 Mira Brancu: She is a professor of Sport administration at Unc. Chapel Hill, and Director of the Center for Research in Intercollegiate Athletics, a former division, one hept athlete. She holds a Phd. In sport management from Indiana University, an Mba. From the University of Utah, and a degree in exercise and Sport science.
00:02:13.900 --> 00:02:26.710 Mira Brancu: She's published over a hundred peer reviewed works on college sport, leadership and systemic reform. Her research focuses on aligning athletic systems with educational values, advancing athlete, well-being
00:02:26.740 --> 00:02:29.829 Mira Brancu: and developing pathways for expertise development.
00:02:29.980 --> 00:02:40.859 Mira Brancu: She's passionate about education, equity, and she is helping shape the future of sport through both scholarship and practice. So welcome and great to have you on the show. Arianne.
00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:43.470 Erianne Weight: Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.
00:02:43.470 --> 00:02:59.640 Mira Brancu: Yeah, absolutely. And audience, you might remember that a little while back I had Dr. Ann. Bowers, Evangelista, who is an ironman. Triathlete. Okay, so that's 3 sports in one competition which is ridiculously impressive on its own. Well.
00:02:59.690 --> 00:03:15.040 Mira Brancu: Arianne is a hept athlete, that is 7 7 sports. In what competition you know, I have some serious high achievers in my orbit. Amazing. So I think we're gonna start right there.
00:03:15.592 --> 00:03:22.347 Mira Brancu: And you know your experiences as a division, one health athlete. I'm really curious.
00:03:23.010 --> 00:03:38.289 Mira Brancu: about those experiences. Also, I was reading on your website, Arianne. And it's not just that. Okay. She graduated high school at 16, went into getting a bachelor's and master's, that she finished by age 21,
00:03:38.540 --> 00:04:02.499 Mira Brancu: while she was in a hept athlete, and while she was working towards being an Olympian. Okay? So let's hear a little bit more about how you basically took education as an athlete and sprinted all the way through, and how you also kind of like.
00:04:02.900 --> 00:04:09.450 Mira Brancu: get to be an a heft athlete and work towards division one and Olympian status.
00:04:10.430 --> 00:04:22.280 Erianne Weight: Well, I I always said I didn't have a lot going for me socially, so I just did a lot relative to academics and athletics, and I really, from a young age.
00:04:22.400 --> 00:04:32.759 Erianne Weight: just wanted to become the best version of myself. So for for listeners who don't know what the heptathlon is, I'll explain that just a minute, and
00:04:33.470 --> 00:04:39.409 Erianne Weight: I would say an iron man is more difficult, but they're different, so both are equal.
00:04:39.410 --> 00:04:40.120 Mira Brancu: All right.
00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:55.520 Erianne Weight: Are very difficult. So the Heptathlon is a 2 day, 7 event track and field competition. On the 1st day we do. The 100 meter hurdles, high jump shot, put in the 200, and on day 2 we do long jump javelin, and the 800 meter or half mile run.
00:04:55.890 --> 00:05:19.070 Erianne Weight: so it's pretty grueling, and it tests all around. Athleticism, speed, strength, skill, and in particular, I'd say, physical and mental resilience, so to become a heptathlete and and probably looking at at my life and what I've done. You need to be a little bit crazy, and you also need a coach to help you along the way, and I think that's
00:05:19.570 --> 00:05:27.160 Erianne Weight: one of the inherent lessons that all leaders will say is, you need help. You need to get feedback, and
00:05:27.500 --> 00:05:40.109 Erianne Weight: and I was very fortunate to have a coach that saw Heptathlon potential in me as a very skinny freshman hurdler at the University of Utah, and
00:05:40.580 --> 00:05:49.520 Erianne Weight: and and he facilitated the opportunity, and I fell in love with the event and the variety of training that it presented. And I think that kind of speaks to
00:05:49.880 --> 00:05:55.249 Erianne Weight: my general view on life is, I love variety, and I love, challenge.
00:05:55.940 --> 00:06:17.830 Mira Brancu: Yeah, I was just gonna say, so. Right now, you are doing a variety of things. And one of them is research, and you've you've like I mentioned you published like a hundred peer reviewed journal articles your and and I'm really interested in how you are combining
00:06:17.980 --> 00:06:25.420 Mira Brancu: sports, management, athleticism, education, leadership in the the ways that you're looking at this.
00:06:26.570 --> 00:06:44.779 Erianne Weight: Well, so I've been very fortunate over the last 3 years to teach a class with your brilliant husband, who I've learned so much from, and the classes is called the art and science of expertise, and we taught it also with a
00:06:45.446 --> 00:06:50.330 Erianne Weight: our women's soccer coach, who's world renowned best in the world. And
00:06:51.090 --> 00:07:11.049 Erianne Weight: interestingly, my background in sport was kind of the lens that I had viewed everything with until we did this class, and and I really realized. The lessons that we learn through sport are the same lessons that you learn when you pursue excellence in anything. It's those same.
00:07:11.290 --> 00:07:14.330 Mira Brancu: Long days, long hours.
00:07:14.590 --> 00:07:21.918 Erianne Weight: Training at the very edge of your comfort zone, failing a lot and and getting back. So
00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:35.050 Erianne Weight: What I've seen as a gap is that sport is often viewed as extracurricular. It's something that's just fun that you do outside of sport or outside of school, but
00:07:35.580 --> 00:07:54.480 Erianne Weight: I have viewed it so deeply as education. I learned so much more on the track than I did in the classroom, and my greatest educational experiences were when the 2 could be combined. When I could apply the science I was learning to my passion of sport.
00:07:54.610 --> 00:08:01.599 Erianne Weight: So I see this gap in our education system, where
00:08:01.760 --> 00:08:04.220 Erianne Weight: there's so much low hanging fruit.
00:08:04.690 --> 00:08:10.089 Erianne Weight: Because we all have passions. We all have things that we want to become the best at.
00:08:10.450 --> 00:08:18.060 Erianne Weight: And if we can pair these passions with science and for credit formalized educational experiences.
00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:28.469 Erianne Weight: They are going to be so much more life relevant to everyone, and and will will facilitate the process of growth that much better.
00:08:28.940 --> 00:08:32.422 Mira Brancu: Yeah, tell me more about what you learned?
00:08:33.150 --> 00:08:36.180 Erianne Weight: You know, as as a student athlete.
00:08:36.570 --> 00:08:47.974 Mira Brancu: Trying to push yourself to the edges of you know growth and discomfort, and past that in order to get to the next level and next level. How do you sort of
00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:54.110 Mira Brancu: you know, connect that to kind of the people's potential in general?
00:08:55.740 --> 00:08:59.660 Erianne Weight: Well think I go back to that
00:08:59.780 --> 00:09:08.620 Erianne Weight: failure component. Every deep lesson that I learned was based on a really real failure.
00:09:08.730 --> 00:09:13.340 Erianne Weight: I think, given my social circle in college. I had
00:09:13.730 --> 00:09:20.609 Erianne Weight: a bit of an eating disorder, and I kept passing out at the end of practice, and
00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:49.520 Erianne Weight: my coach came up to me, and he said, I see the letters of all American on your forehead, and every time you don't fuel your body enough, one of those letters falls off, and and and that moment, you know, changed my life, changed the trajectory. I had another one where I was, the anchor for a 4 by 4 relay, and I promised myself I wasn't going to get past. This was when I was a freshman and
00:09:50.266 --> 00:09:54.089 Erianne Weight: I had kind of propelled myself to
00:09:54.310 --> 00:09:58.630 Erianne Weight: speed, based on some things that had happened in high school, and a lot of
00:09:59.150 --> 00:10:15.239 Erianne Weight: a lot of anger that made me run really, really fast. And so when I was in college, I think I didn't necessarily have the athleticism that everyone else around me did. And also I was 16 like you mentioned. So I promised myself I wasn't going to
00:10:15.420 --> 00:10:26.809 Erianne Weight: get past, and I ran an incredible race better than I could have imagined. 2 seconds faster in the 400 than I had ever done before, except
00:10:27.100 --> 00:10:35.759 Erianne Weight: I collapsed about a foot in front of the the finish line, and I was scooped off the track and
00:10:36.714 --> 00:10:46.740 Erianne Weight: and and really taken care of by the the head official who later led me to my Phd. Program. And and so it was just, you know, all of those.
00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.260 Erianne Weight: all of those times when
00:10:49.900 --> 00:11:01.110 Erianne Weight: I failed, or I I did something that that facilitated mentorship or or access to to these lessons, that that really have been transformative.
00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.070 Mira Brancu: Yeah, tell me more about the
00:11:04.230 --> 00:11:15.410 Mira Brancu: you mentioned a couple of times. Mentors, coaches like these are your people that help you, you know, push you and also protect you from yourself. How
00:11:16.860 --> 00:11:20.820 Mira Brancu: How did they help you
00:11:20.970 --> 00:11:34.129 Mira Brancu: find that balance between pushing yourself as hard as you can, and also easing up when it was necessary, or taking care of yourself or being more compassionate with yourself.
00:11:35.630 --> 00:11:37.360 Erianne Weight: Well, I think
00:11:38.520 --> 00:11:45.319 Erianne Weight: it's interesting that you ask that. And and I I think that's 1 of the things about sport that is so unique.
00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:46.620 Erianne Weight: Because
00:11:46.950 --> 00:11:59.760 Erianne Weight: a coach really does have purview over your training, and in in many respects your mind, body, and future potential in that sport which has a lot of power.
00:11:59.910 --> 00:12:16.249 Erianne Weight: and and there are coaches that absolutely abuse that power, and there are coaches that are skilled in science and and care deeply about their athletes, and and are there to nurture and make sure you become the best version of yourself.
00:12:16.370 --> 00:12:26.870 Erianne Weight: and and I have experienced both extremes. But those that that truly cared for me, and walked me through, how to become.
00:12:27.430 --> 00:12:31.540 Erianne Weight: how how to train hard, and also how to rest
00:12:31.680 --> 00:12:38.590 Erianne Weight: and and do all of the right things were amazing. But the interesting thing is in my professional life.
00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:42.159 Erianne Weight: There isn't that built-in mentor system. And
00:12:42.260 --> 00:12:46.069 Erianne Weight: and we've learned in the expertise literature that nothing
00:12:46.420 --> 00:12:58.839 Erianne Weight: really will increase the trajectory of your expertise development than having immediate feedback by a mentor that understands the path to get better.
00:12:58.980 --> 00:13:06.680 Erianne Weight: And we have teachers. And you know, and we have colleagues that we can work with and and lean on. But
00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:16.819 Erianne Weight: that's really important to find those people that care about you, and that can point point things out that you're doing that might not be in your best interest. And
00:13:17.070 --> 00:13:21.230 Erianne Weight: and so again, it's those models in sport that we have that
00:13:21.350 --> 00:13:27.740 Erianne Weight: that really should be applied to to so many others. But we don't have that
00:13:27.950 --> 00:13:36.110 Erianne Weight: one on one training, or one on 5, or whatever. It often is very often in in any context other than sport.
00:13:36.330 --> 00:13:38.239 Mira Brancu: Yeah, wow, that
00:13:38.400 --> 00:13:54.438 Mira Brancu: I didn't know that about, you know, expertise, and how important it is to have mentors to continue going, you know, being able to become a greater and greater expert. And but I've certainly seen that you know
00:13:54.950 --> 00:14:01.220 Mira Brancu: among the peers that I've had that have gone down the research path, and.
00:14:01.570 --> 00:14:23.200 Mira Brancu: in order to become, you know, move from assistant professor to associate professor to full professor right and to get the next grant and the larger grant, you know all of that requires an immense amount of intensive mentorship. Right? And it's it's got to be mutually beneficial, you know the mentors got to see
00:14:23.730 --> 00:14:44.534 Mira Brancu: potential where they they can. You know, grow as their mentee grows, and I think you can easily apply that to the world of work as well, you know. You and you know, in the world of work it's also called sponsorship. Right? It's not just mentorship mentorship is just about in the world of work, at least about
00:14:45.410 --> 00:14:55.240 Mira Brancu: telling someone how you've done the thing that you've done. But it's not necessarily opening doors and giving people opportunities that sponsorship. So
00:14:55.910 --> 00:15:25.769 Mira Brancu: we're reaching an ad break when we come back. I'd love to hear more about that systems level piece from your perspective in the world of sport. So you're listening to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Branco, and with our guest today, Dr. Arianne Waite. We air on Tuesdays at 5 Pm. Eastern, if you're here like right now, 5 Pm. Eastern, you can find us live streaming on Linkedin Youtube twitch and several other locations@talkradio.nyc. And we'll be right back with our guest in just a moment.
00:17:07.550 --> 00:17:14.389 Mira Brancu: Welcome. Welcome back to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Bronku and our guest today, Dr. Arianne Waite.
00:17:14.670 --> 00:17:21.309 Mira Brancu: you know what I what I was reflecting on during this break was something that
00:17:21.500 --> 00:17:31.899 Mira Brancu: I used to say a lot about team leaders as well, not just mentors and coaches that. But I think there's an easy translation here, you know that you mentioned.
00:17:32.530 --> 00:17:52.200 Mira Brancu: which is that you've had, you know, coaches on both sides, coaches that were really hard to work with, and you know, they they control your mind, your body, or everything in kind of negative ways. And then you've had these amazing coaches that had, you know, huge influence. And it's the same thing for for team leaders, you know, team
00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:58.649 Mira Brancu: leaders within organizations have the power to buffer you from
00:17:58.820 --> 00:18:24.083 Mira Brancu: all kinds of organizational weight and burden and stress and burnout but they also have the power to create and increase and amplify stress and burnout and frustration. And you know, that is an incredible amount of impact on somebody's trajectory. So that was my reflection during the break.
00:18:26.450 --> 00:18:27.620 Mira Brancu: And you're on mute.
00:18:31.100 --> 00:18:42.890 Erianne Weight: Hopefully, we'll be able to talk about that a little bit later, because because that that power that the coaches have is also wild when we think that there's really no credentialing for coaches.
00:18:43.050 --> 00:18:50.150 Erianne Weight: there's credentials for teachers and medical professionals. But but coaches who arguably have more power and influence.
00:18:50.610 --> 00:18:58.650 Erianne Weight: don't really have an educational pathway or pipeline to to get there. And and I think that's why we see so much
00:18:59.827 --> 00:19:06.030 Erianne Weight: so much abuse and so much so many examples of of poor leadership in that space.
00:19:06.320 --> 00:19:10.900 Mira Brancu: Yeah, absolutely. I would say the same thing about team leaders and most leaders, you know. Like Bye.
00:19:10.900 --> 00:19:14.279 Mira Brancu: they are promoted because they have technical expertise.
00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:17.789 Mira Brancu: Then they're not provided with a brand new.
00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:22.250 Mira Brancu: you know, level of intensive training in order to
00:19:22.728 --> 00:19:49.471 Mira Brancu: be a leader of people, right and not just within their technical domain. So fascinating. Let's get into that. Okay, so you, you have combined sports and management and leadership and educational systems. To look at these these types of power, dynamics and influence. And you know, money flows and all kinds of things that I find really fascinating.
00:19:50.510 --> 00:20:07.520 Mira Brancu: you know. Audience, just, you know, by way of background, she mentioned. She knows my husband. She works with my husband. That's how I met her, and then we we went out and had coffee and I was so fascinated in in terms of like how she's combined these areas in in ways that you don't normally think about sport, and which is like
00:20:07.550 --> 00:20:21.970 Mira Brancu: how the sausage is made behind the scenes. You know what happens in terms of how athletes are kind of brought up in the system. And then how the leadership pipeline within the sports world itself works, and I'd love to hear a little bit more about that.
00:20:23.260 --> 00:20:27.788 Erianne Weight: Well, should we start with the leadership? Pipeline, maybe, of.
00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:29.149 Mira Brancu: Let's do that.
00:20:29.150 --> 00:20:32.600 Erianne Weight: So so like I just mentioned.
00:20:32.850 --> 00:20:44.610 Erianne Weight: Usually there's a pathway to become something, you know, you're an apprentice, or you get a degree in something. But for coaching and for leadership and sport, there really isn't
00:20:45.090 --> 00:20:47.400 Erianne Weight: a pipeline other than
00:20:48.530 --> 00:21:00.509 Erianne Weight: I suppose, apprenticeship on some levels. But most of our coaches are training their athletes based on what they learn as an athlete, or what they heard from their coach and their coaches. Coach?
00:21:01.775 --> 00:21:02.850 Erianne Weight: So
00:21:03.340 --> 00:21:11.729 Erianne Weight: I think a lot of that is what I mentioned relative to how we view sport, and and that it's not necessarily
00:21:11.970 --> 00:21:25.350 Erianne Weight: education. So let's look at Unc. Chapel Hill, for instance, where, where I work, which is very similar to most of our American universities, we require students to complete 120 credits to receive a bachelor's degree.
00:21:25.600 --> 00:21:34.360 Erianne Weight: and and we argue that that 120 credits is a liberal arts, education, a broad education, covering social and natural sciences
00:21:34.950 --> 00:21:38.292 Erianne Weight: of that 120 credits. However.
00:21:39.020 --> 00:21:58.210 Erianne Weight: How much of it is focused on our body. The vessel that houses our brain, which is directly tied to our well-being and our ability to function. It's 1 1 of those 120 credits. We have a lifetime fitness class taught by Master's Degree students that may or may not have a background in the class.
00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:00.183 Erianne Weight: or what they're teaching.
00:22:00.850 --> 00:22:13.950 Erianne Weight: and so I've been fascinated by curriculum and and our curriculum that we have our students in K through 12, and collegiate is supposed to be a barometer of what we value in society.
00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:22.349 Erianne Weight: But clearly we haven't valued sport as such. So
00:22:23.040 --> 00:22:43.209 Erianne Weight: I have advocated, and and continuing to advocate. Not only that sport is science. Sport is a liberal art, and sport should be viewed as education. We should have majors in sport, performance or expertise development that could be, have sport under it. And
00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:59.160 Erianne Weight: so one comparison has been to music majors that a music musician can come through the education system, and they spend decades practicing, and if they are
00:22:59.360 --> 00:23:08.530 Erianne Weight: spending all their time in the music building, they're viewed as a dedicated scholar, and if the athlete does the exact same thing.
00:23:08.650 --> 00:23:23.239 Erianne Weight: they are viewed as a dumb Jock or a Gym. Rat, and the the musicians can earn 96 credits at Unc. To get a bachelor in music, and our athletes can earn no credits for pursuing their passion in sport.
00:23:23.470 --> 00:23:24.610 Erianne Weight: So
00:23:24.750 --> 00:23:36.079 Erianne Weight: it's really interesting to me that we've viewed these 2 very similar constructs so differently, and if I could imagine a future, I would love
00:23:36.340 --> 00:23:37.590 Erianne Weight: to have
00:23:38.130 --> 00:23:56.300 Erianne Weight: education, opportunities for everyone to participate in sport that it becomes so inherent that it's just like taking math and and science. We have more opportunities beyond physical education to be to be more specialized, and and learn the beauty.
00:23:56.470 --> 00:23:57.864 Mira Brancu: Yeah, I I
00:23:59.260 --> 00:24:07.730 Mira Brancu: I want to get into like, why you think that is. But I just want to sort of like, stop and just reflect on one thing that you mentioned, which is that
00:24:09.830 --> 00:24:18.509 Mira Brancu: that idea of like we cultivate the mind with out, really
00:24:19.030 --> 00:24:27.030 Mira Brancu: paying much attention to cultivating the body and the, as you say, the vessel within which the mind rests right
00:24:27.030 --> 00:24:29.487 Mira Brancu: rich, and I just
00:24:31.340 --> 00:24:36.410 Mira Brancu: You know it. I can see parallels between
00:24:36.630 --> 00:24:44.100 Mira Brancu: that messaging early on about how we view
00:24:44.800 --> 00:24:59.040 Mira Brancu: sport and and really physical health in general. And what happens later on, when we get to the world of work and productivity is really the only metric. And how people end up burning out
00:24:59.691 --> 00:25:04.108 Mira Brancu: not taking care of themselves, finding themselves mid career, you know.
00:25:04.690 --> 00:25:08.369 Mira Brancu: having you know a fairly.
00:25:08.490 --> 00:25:29.709 Mira Brancu: you know many, many of us a fairly sedentary lifestyle feeling like they have to be at the computer at all times, or else you know, don't stop to rest. Don't stop to, you know. Take a walk outside, don't you know? Like the just the basics of taking care of our body, not even like at the height of sport. Right? And
00:25:30.937 --> 00:25:35.590 Mira Brancu: you know what what impact it could make.
00:25:35.870 --> 00:25:44.159 Mira Brancu: If from very early on we are taught that, taking care of your body physically
00:25:44.270 --> 00:25:48.840 Mira Brancu: and learning how to like.
00:25:49.530 --> 00:26:15.880 Mira Brancu: understand what it's asking of you when it's stressed out, or when it's trying to build muscle, or when it's trying to, you know, be more physically healthy, or whatever like being able to be, pay more close attention to those kinds of things. The impact that would have on our, you know, success in the work world. Not, you know, like that's so complimentary. Anyway, I could go on and on about that.
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:21.880 Erianne Weight: No, absolutely one of my favorite stories relative to that is, my, I have
00:26:22.380 --> 00:26:35.370 Erianne Weight: 4 nieces and nephews that went to international school in Hong Kong, and when they came home I asked them what was the the most difficult thing about being an expat, and and they all of all 4 of them
00:26:35.790 --> 00:26:38.149 Erianne Weight: in unison, said PE.
00:26:38.748 --> 00:26:42.419 Erianne Weight: Was the most difficult class that you had.
00:26:42.560 --> 00:26:55.059 Erianne Weight: and they said yes, because they had specific standards that they had to meet in every single sport that the other students had been trained in. So when they didn't meet the specific time in the swimming test.
00:26:55.290 --> 00:27:05.689 Erianne Weight: they had to wear a smart watch or heart heart rate monitor and get their heart rate up for a certain number of hours, based on how slow they were.
00:27:05.690 --> 00:27:06.440 Mira Brancu: Wow!
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:28.270 Erianne Weight: And I just thought, Wow, that is fascinating. And then I looked at what we spend on health care in many of the Asian countries versus the United States. And I thought, Wow, okay. So if you value the body, and if you're doing, if you're really incorporating high level physical education in school. There's so many benefits.
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:50.989 Mira Brancu: That's right, I mean, yes, absolutely. Let's let's talk about healthcare, and how in this country it's all about waiting until it's so acute that it's an emergency, and then you finally get care. We do very little preventative medicine, and we do very little recovery. The world of sport. I think
00:27:51.780 --> 00:28:03.219 Mira Brancu: really knows so much more about preventative and recovery. That we never apply to our own basic health care. You know.
00:28:03.220 --> 00:28:04.550 Erianne Weight: You know? Yeah.
00:28:04.550 --> 00:28:11.850 Mira Brancu: So okay, let's now move back to why? Why is it that
00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:19.729 Mira Brancu: like an art major or musician, Major? Has the opportunity
00:28:19.890 --> 00:28:28.630 Mira Brancu: to major in the the area of passion that they have. But an athlete doesn't have the same. What? What are your thoughts on that.
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:53.439 Erianne Weight: Well, I think you know, if we go way back, Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, they all talked about the value of the body, and how important it is in our education, but between then and now it's gotten lost a little bit along the way. My focus has been in college sport, and as many people who have followed college sport in the United States.
00:28:53.710 --> 00:28:58.480 Erianne Weight: One of our core values for many years was amateurism.
00:28:58.600 --> 00:29:14.879 Erianne Weight: And if you look at the history of amateurism. It's rooted in England, and the reason amateurism was espoused was to keep the working class and people of color out of
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:25.829 Erianne Weight: the games that the elite were playing that the aristocracy was playing. And so a lot of it is this bias against
00:29:26.630 --> 00:29:39.919 Erianne Weight: sport and the body. But a lot of it is the subtle racism and classism that we've had ingrained in sport throughout the years, and it's really a fascinating history. And the fact that it's been
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:57.370 Erianne Weight: ingrained in college sport as something we've been proud of for over a hundred years is is really unbelievable and and just speaks to how much we need to look at history when we, when we see systems that maybe don't make the most sense.
00:29:57.510 --> 00:30:16.919 Mira Brancu: Yeah, yeah, I want to learn more about this amateurism. But I noticed that we're reaching an ad break. So we're going to take that ad break. And when we come back we're going to learn a little bit more about amateurism and the impact on sport. And you're listening to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Branco and our guest today, Dr. Arianne Waite, we'll be right back.
00:31:48.510 --> 00:32:09.920 Mira Brancu: Welcome. Welcome back to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira Branco and our guest today, Dr. Arianne Waite. So, Arianne, you mentioned amateurism. I don't think a lot of people know what that is, and you connected it to bias against sport and classism and racism. And I'd love to hear more about those connections.
00:32:11.080 --> 00:32:21.730 Erianne Weight: Sure. Well, so in college sport. Since its inception. It has been illegal to pay athletes for
00:32:22.287 --> 00:32:28.480 Erianne Weight: to compete, so pay to play has been illegal up until a few years ago, when
00:32:29.071 --> 00:32:33.040 Erianne Weight: when the courts overturned that, and it actually has
00:32:33.950 --> 00:32:51.999 Erianne Weight: a beautiful root. The word amateur comes from the Latin root. To love, like Amor is amateur, so an amateur is somebody who does something for the love of it, and not to be paid. And so I think that there are some that generally agree with that.
00:32:52.110 --> 00:33:12.810 Erianne Weight: However, to be able to participate just for the love of it, and for no money. You need to have a lot of privilege. You need to have a lot of time and not have to work. So others. Alan Gutman, a sport historian has called amateurism class warfare to eliminate the working class from sport, and there are some
00:33:12.810 --> 00:33:33.870 Erianne Weight: even more kind of dirty quotes from Central England. Casper Whitney called the working class athletes and athletes of color vermin, and he said a man of means should never be asked to play sports with his social inferior. So there's a lot of it all mixed mixed together in this idea of
00:33:34.150 --> 00:33:54.810 Erianne Weight: amateur sport, and who should play and who shouldn't be able to play, and that has been promulgated throughout history in in our collegiate system, and I think a little bit of that has seeped into the education systems, too, that.
00:33:55.180 --> 00:34:06.889 Erianne Weight: and particularly with with racism. When people think of college sport, I think most of them think of football and basketball, and the athletes in those sports are predominantly black.
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:14.389 Erianne Weight: and there are a lot of deep biases against the black body, and and and so
00:34:14.620 --> 00:34:24.169 Erianne Weight: that, I think has has also led to a lot of the inequities and lack of formal education in sport.
00:34:24.350 --> 00:34:30.420 Mira Brancu: Hmm! So interesting. And so then. Now, how do you connect that with
00:34:32.090 --> 00:34:41.409 Mira Brancu: They're not being a an opportunity to invest in and develop that as a major.
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.146 Erianne Weight: Well, I think before going to the major
00:34:47.580 --> 00:34:54.732 Erianne Weight: we could, we could start even at the K through 12 level to think about it. So
00:34:55.730 --> 00:35:13.459 Erianne Weight: I've talked about access and opportunity relative to to all sport pathways, and in the nineties I was able to just show up and become a high school athlete without paying for club, and without doing the rigmarole that many parents do now.
00:35:13.970 --> 00:35:22.159 Erianne Weight: But so for volley in volleyball, for instance. That's the fastest growing sport in the Us. Women's sport right now.
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:43.340 Erianne Weight: The middle school team, Middle School, our 6th graders, our 11 year olds in Chapel Hill have girls that have been playing club for years, and club is $6,000 a year, and club involves traveling throughout the country. So your babies can play elite level volleyball, which? And I hope you're
00:35:43.500 --> 00:35:44.649 Erianne Weight: sensing the sarcasm.
00:35:44.650 --> 00:35:45.770 Erianne Weight: Yeah, yeah.
00:35:47.740 --> 00:35:50.639 Erianne Weight: So meanwhile, others who didn't
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:56.160 Erianne Weight: believe in the club system like I didn't with with my oldest, or those who just didn't
00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.341 Erianne Weight: know what sport their child loved, or or whatever
00:36:00.900 --> 00:36:20.159 Erianne Weight: they get cut, they get cut from the middle school team, and that sends messages to those young athletes that they're not good enough, or that they're not athletic. And when I think about well, and all of the research is pretty clear that participation in sport is
00:36:20.350 --> 00:36:30.010 Erianne Weight: the most significant indicator of satisfaction with life job satisfaction, salaries, executive leadership positions.
00:36:30.010 --> 00:36:30.750 Mira Brancu: Wow!
00:36:31.224 --> 00:36:38.370 Erianne Weight: Social networks. It's it's unbelievable. And we're making that inaccessible to a
00:36:38.710 --> 00:36:50.299 Erianne Weight: portion of the population right now, and our PE programs have been slashed. Our sandlot games have been replaced with a youth sport, industrial, complex that only
00:36:50.410 --> 00:36:59.780 Erianne Weight: some can can can have. So in my ideal world, we'd have as many teams as we have athletes that
00:37:00.397 --> 00:37:11.150 Erianne Weight: we. We view the volleyball team just like our band class or our math class or our English class. And we view that
00:37:11.470 --> 00:37:40.350 Erianne Weight: as education and we incorporate the science, the physiology of elite performance, the psychology, the teamwork, the data analytics that come with with sport. And so I think, if we incorporate that at any level like, if we start at K through 12, or if we start at college, that mentality of sport is science will will seep through, and we can see majors because there is. There's
00:37:40.470 --> 00:37:54.579 Erianne Weight: there's sociology and history and theory, and and everything that we see in every discipline we have it in sport. Sport is a massive 500 billion dollars industry, and there are a lot of jobs. And and so
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:59.609 Erianne Weight: I would love to see it infiltrate education at every level.
00:38:00.126 --> 00:38:03.865 Mira Brancu: Yeah, amazing. I, 1st of all, I,
00:38:04.660 --> 00:38:09.170 Mira Brancu: I knew the impact. But was not aware of
00:38:09.940 --> 00:38:17.300 Mira Brancu: the depth of the impact in so many areas of one's life. And also I'm
00:38:18.310 --> 00:38:25.910 Mira Brancu: again reflecting on the the equivalent experiences where
00:38:26.350 --> 00:38:29.170 Mira Brancu: you know it's hard to get
00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:47.970 Mira Brancu: internships. If you don't get into the right school, and if you don't get into the right school, and then you don't get into the right internships, you don't get the highest paying jobs. And then you know, all the people who have access to you know all of these highest level, you know. Opportunities.
00:38:48.535 --> 00:38:59.490 Mira Brancu: It comes with privilege on top of privilege on top of privilege, that snowballs and this sounds like a, you know, kind of an equivalent in the sport world, too.
00:38:59.490 --> 00:39:10.030 Erianne Weight: And also having a mentor or a guide to tell you how to navigate this incredibly difficult system, because it's not easy. I remember when my oldest
00:39:10.420 --> 00:39:13.679 Erianne Weight: wanted to start playing volleyball as an 8th grader.
00:39:14.390 --> 00:39:28.050 Erianne Weight: She looked around and the girls were. They were phenomenal, and she's like, what did I miss, and I thought the same thing as a mother. I'm like, Oh, goodness! Apparently I was supposed to be doing things all along, and I just didn't know.
00:39:28.050 --> 00:39:28.620 Mira Brancu: Right?
00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:37.000 Mira Brancu: Exactly. Yeah, it is. You know it. It is definitely why I wrote my book, The Millennials Guide for Workplace Politics, because I
00:39:37.130 --> 00:39:40.700 Mira Brancu: like somehow landed
00:39:41.113 --> 00:39:55.299 Mira Brancu: in the right place with the mentor, who took me under his wing, and it was not necessarily from a place of privilege, and the moment I realized that he was giving me access to all of this information about how to navigate a highly complex system in a way
00:39:55.730 --> 00:39:56.380 Mira Brancu: that
00:39:56.620 --> 00:40:24.443 Mira Brancu: there was no way I would have access that information in any other way. I was like, I am putting this in a book and democratizing it and and sharing with everybody, because everybody should know this stuff. And it's not fair that like, somehow, you know. I ended up in this situation, having access because I knew there's so many other people with less privilege and less, you know. Opportunity that would never have access to that information so kind of the same passion.
00:40:25.010 --> 00:40:36.879 Erianne Weight: Yeah, that reminds me of really going back to the mentorship, and how you just kind of skip the line. If you have a mentor. I, my niece, has a bread bread baking company, she.
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:37.490 Mira Brancu: Sure.
00:40:37.982 --> 00:40:43.910 Erianne Weight: In Utah, and it's phenomenal. And I went to help her for a weekend, because I've always loved that process, and
00:40:44.290 --> 00:40:54.430 Erianne Weight: she walked me through the very, very hard, sourdough bread, making process that's long and arduous, and
00:40:54.770 --> 00:40:59.789 Erianne Weight: her decade of experience was instilled
00:40:59.940 --> 00:41:12.319 Erianne Weight: in in that day of training, and I just imagined all the pitfalls that she had gone through, and she showed me. You know this is how you cut it, and this is why, so it doesn't explode in the oven, and all of the different things that she had learned.
00:41:12.450 --> 00:41:21.830 Erianne Weight: I got a decade worth of knowledge in a day, and and that's the power of a mentor. They take.
00:41:21.940 --> 00:41:34.710 Erianne Weight: they distill all of that wisdom, and then, you know, give you that boost give you that you know front of the line access kind of a thing. Once you know the rules of the road.
00:41:34.710 --> 00:41:44.850 Mira Brancu: Yeah, amazing. So now, going back to kind of like, where you hope to see change.
00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:52.479 Mira Brancu: what? What kind of research are you doing, or what? What? What are you thinking about? That could
00:41:52.980 --> 00:41:58.360 Mira Brancu: could make a difference. The changes that are needed? Why are the why are those changes needed.
00:41:59.640 --> 00:42:10.470 Erianne Weight: Well, so all of my research right now is laser focused on enhancing these educational pipelines and making the case for sport as education.
00:42:11.293 --> 00:42:15.826 Erianne Weight: Because it's deep. And it's rich. And it's powerful.
00:42:17.380 --> 00:42:21.989 Erianne Weight: So right now, probably one of our biggest projects is
00:42:22.180 --> 00:42:26.450 Erianne Weight: data, science and sport and and demonstrating this
00:42:26.650 --> 00:42:43.879 Erianne Weight: really rich data filled environment in sport is one of the best ways to learn data science. So I've had the amazing opportunity to work with a lot of our athletes over the last year, and one of the 1st questions I ask them is, do you see yourself as
00:42:44.060 --> 00:42:47.880 Erianne Weight: a scientist or a scholar, and
00:42:48.010 --> 00:42:53.316 Erianne Weight: some of them say yes to Scholar. Almost none of them say yes to scientist
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:59.450 Erianne Weight: And and I said, Well, how do you view yourself? And they're like, well, I'm an athlete. I'm a student, and that's that's
00:42:59.580 --> 00:43:06.769 Erianne Weight: their identity. That was my identity for a really long time. And then I walk them through Howard gardeners.
00:43:07.210 --> 00:43:09.630 Erianne Weight: multiple intelligences theory.
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:36.070 Erianne Weight: and that historically and within school we usually measure and teach verbal intelligence and mathematical intelligence or quantitative. And there's also spatial intelligence, and there is kinesthetic intelligence and interpersonal and interpersonal intelligences, and we walk through what they do in sport. And I said
00:43:36.410 --> 00:43:45.120 Erianne Weight: to be competing at this level. You are genius level, you have maximum intelligence. And when you're on the field.
00:43:45.570 --> 00:43:51.609 Erianne Weight: you're doing hypothesis, testing. When you're looking at film, you're doing data analysis.
00:43:51.760 --> 00:44:19.619 Erianne Weight: And all of these make you a scientist, an elite scientist, a brilliant genius, level scientist, and to see the light bulb go off for them has been probably the most rewarding experience in my life, because it's how they see themselves. And if you go from, I'm an athlete which is non academic, which is how we've treated our athletes, as you know dumb jocks
00:44:19.790 --> 00:44:20.920 Erianne Weight: to.
00:44:21.200 --> 00:44:37.020 Erianne Weight: If you're an elite athlete, you are brilliant. You are a scientist. You're doing intense calculations, and you're learning skills in all of these areas of intelligence that that often aren't measured or emphasized in our traditional educational systems.
00:44:37.380 --> 00:44:53.799 Mira Brancu: Yeah, absolutely. We're reaching another ad break. I think when we come back I'd love to extract some of those experiences lessons, knowledge and hear how they translate into the world of work. Once you know
00:44:53.830 --> 00:45:11.960 Mira Brancu: the athletes who choose to go into kind of traditional organizational, you know, institutions, once they do that, and especially when they go into leadership, I'd love to hear a few of those. You're listening to the hard skills with me, Dr. Mira branco and our guest today, Dr. Arian Waite, and we'll be right back in just a moment.
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.409 Mira Brancu: Welcome welcome back to the hard skills.
00:46:58.540 --> 00:47:13.660 Mira Brancu: So Arianne, this podcast is focused on soft skills, challenges for leaders. And you know, the current season is especially focused on endurance and leadership. So I'm super curious to hear what
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:30.809 Mira Brancu: translatable skills do you see from what you do and and what the research shows, what you've been exploring, and how leaders can learn from this, whether it is system change in the long run.
00:47:31.020 --> 00:47:41.660 Mira Brancu: leadership. That comes from. You know the world of sport. What? What kind of translational aspects do you see? There.
00:47:43.020 --> 00:48:02.039 Erianne Weight: Well as I often do, I go back to my experiences in sport, so I'll share the longest and most grueling event in the Heptathlon is the 800 meter run. It's at the end of the second day of competition, when our bodies are exhausted, and it's essentially a half mile sprint.
00:48:02.210 --> 00:48:12.499 Erianne Weight: and it's 1 of the highest point yielding events. So it's critical to do. Well, you look at athletes before the race, and they all have this look of exhaustion and dread.
00:48:12.967 --> 00:48:15.840 Erianne Weight: We all hate the 800, but we do it.
00:48:16.460 --> 00:48:41.319 Erianne Weight: and we do it strategically. And I think this strategy for that race I've used in so many aspects of my life, including giving birth, including getting tenure, like everything that I've done, I kind of come back to this mentality of the 800. So we divide the race into mental chunks and and strive to meet those benchmarks we've trained for.
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:54.040 Erianne Weight: And so, in the 1st phase of the race. You go out strong, but not too strong. You get a good position, and the second 200, the second phase
00:48:54.190 --> 00:49:11.059 Erianne Weight: I focus on staying relaxed, letting my leg cycle and imagining kind of getting lifted up by a string, or and also the mental thing helped me. I was pushed along by my mother's love. She always said that she's sending her love through the wind, and so I'd feel that during that second leg
00:49:11.310 --> 00:49:21.899 Erianne Weight: the 3rd phase you naturally slow down because you're getting tired. And so, you know, you need to finish strong, and you can't slow down. So you have to tell yourself to go faster to actually pick up your pace.
00:49:22.110 --> 00:49:46.569 Erianne Weight: push your hardest during this 3rd phase, and then, when you get to the final, your body is completely on fire with with lactic acid, and you just have to finish. You just have to pump your arms and get there, and then when you finish, it's over, most of us collapse, partly in exhaustion, partly in relief. And then we all hug each other because we did it.
00:49:46.900 --> 00:50:12.069 Erianne Weight: It feels great, you know, like collectively. And it's actually a beautiful sisterhood among heptatholets, because you'd spend 2 days together, and we knew if we could do that we could do anything. We knew that our mind was stronger than our body, and you know that was the event that I competed in. But these lessons, like I said earlier, are inherent in the pursuit of expertise in any field.
00:50:12.200 --> 00:50:30.329 Erianne Weight: So everything worth doing everything, challenging, everything that gets us right at the edge of our comfort zone where we grow has these inherent mental strategies that we need to use to keep us going, little milestones to work toward, and mental approaches to each phase of the climb. So
00:50:31.020 --> 00:50:36.830 Erianne Weight: my dream is is making educational pipelines to
00:50:37.700 --> 00:50:54.729 Erianne Weight: teach these skills because they're not inherent. I was taught about the 4 phases of the 800 by a mentor who was probably taught it by someone else, and and I'm grateful for that. But again, if we can democratize it, if we can incorporate it into our educational systems.
00:50:55.356 --> 00:51:07.129 Erianne Weight: Where we can teach the science of performance, the science of expertise, and that inherent experiential learning where students can pair science with what they're passionate about.
00:51:08.610 --> 00:51:12.759 Erianne Weight: can can become this beautiful thing. And and in terms of the outcomes
00:51:14.510 --> 00:51:37.630 Erianne Weight: I mentioned them a little bit earlier, I think. Probably one of the most powerful was a study conducted by Ernst and Young and Espn. Which found that 94% of female C-suite executives and 80% of fortune. 500 executives have backgrounds in sport, so that correlation between
00:51:38.290 --> 00:51:54.830 Erianne Weight: getting it done, finishing that race, finishing any race and and learning and pushing yourself to the edge of of your limit. It leads to those endurance, you know you can do it. You know your mind is stronger than your body, and then you can
00:51:55.070 --> 00:52:08.479 Erianne Weight: reach those milestones, whether it be a report that's due, or a presentation, or getting your team together for for a huddle, whatever it is. You've done something harder before, and so you can do it.
00:52:08.630 --> 00:52:12.379 Erianne Weight: And I think that's the beauty of of sport.
00:52:12.620 --> 00:52:29.634 Mira Brancu: Yeah, yeah, so much good stuff to pull out from this, you know. And and this is not just for leaders. Right? It's for like anybody. It's it's for people trying to grow in their own lives in lots of ways.
00:52:30.500 --> 00:52:31.389 Mira Brancu: you know
00:52:31.540 --> 00:52:56.000 Mira Brancu: a lot of people ask me about my, you know, success and blah blah, and I'm like it all comes down to persistence. I just outlast everybody else like, you know. I push past all the awful moments and the, you know, feeling of failure and rejection and blah blah! And I'm still standing. That's I'm a cockroach, that's what it is. It's like, you know, I just get there and I think
00:52:56.200 --> 00:53:24.140 Mira Brancu: if you add the things that you mentioned, which is then, now, how to how do you like develop not just persistence, but growth with persistence. You know whether you're developing your your body or you know other, your you know, leadership skills or whatever that is right. The other is the rewiring of of messaging in the Us. Around.
00:53:25.240 --> 00:53:35.479 Mira Brancu: you know. That that instantaneous fame, or being found is not the typical and in fact, most of us
00:53:36.017 --> 00:53:45.559 Mira Brancu: you know, that sort of like high success level didn't just happen. It was a cultivation of the things that you just mentioned.
00:53:45.560 --> 00:53:56.037 Erianne Weight: Absolutely. There's no, there's no such thing as being born with talent. It it is all hard work, it is all persistence, it is all grueling.
00:53:57.330 --> 00:53:59.359 Erianne Weight: and and never giving up.
00:53:59.850 --> 00:54:01.332 Mira Brancu: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:54:02.860 --> 00:54:07.439 Mira Brancu: If people want to find out more about your work, where can they find you?
00:54:08.150 --> 00:54:14.800 Erianne Weight: Well, I have a website, Arianne waite.com and that
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:21.420 Erianne Weight: has kind of the the library of a lot of the research that that I've done. In addition to
00:54:21.720 --> 00:54:39.919 Erianne Weight: the press that that comes out same area and weight on social media. Although I don't post a whole lot, I probably should do more. But but I think the the most powerful thing that I'm just beginning is the hashtag. Sport is science.
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:40.380 Mira Brancu: Hmm.
00:54:40.380 --> 00:54:48.590 Erianne Weight: And I'm hoping that that will catch fire. And what I'd love is that people throughout the world
00:54:48.820 --> 00:55:08.680 Erianne Weight: use that hashtag and demonstrate the science that they do in sport, that we can, you know, have an Internet library under that hashtag of people showing just how scientific their sport is, or just how it could be hashtag sport is art as well, just
00:55:08.830 --> 00:55:20.899 Erianne Weight: demonstrating the education inherent in what they do, and so posting a video or a picture, or anything under that hashtag sport is science. I would love for that to be
00:55:21.500 --> 00:55:26.440 Erianne Weight: something that that is, that is tied with the work that I do at some point.
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:29.140 Erianne Weight: Beginning, so we'll see.
00:55:29.530 --> 00:55:35.670 Mira Brancu: All right. You heard her hashtag sport is science.
00:55:35.850 --> 00:55:43.909 Mira Brancu: Use it, share it with us when you're making that connection. And so.
00:55:44.380 --> 00:55:47.440 Mira Brancu: audience, what did you take away from today?
00:55:47.650 --> 00:55:54.589 Mira Brancu: And importantly, what is one small change that you can implement this week, based on what you learned from Arianne? Share with us
00:55:54.740 --> 00:56:11.450 Mira Brancu: on Linkedin. At least, that's where I live. And I'm going to encourage Arian to come out on Linkedin a little bit more often and use the hashtag. Sport is science, so we can find you and cheer you on and share it on@talkradio.nyc as well.
00:56:11.670 --> 00:56:24.190 Mira Brancu: Now talkradio, dot. Nyc. The hard skills is also on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Twitch, apple spotify Amazon podcasts all over the place. So if today's episode resonated for you share it
00:56:24.600 --> 00:56:29.479 Mira Brancu: with a colleague or leave a review, we would greatly greatly appreciate it.
00:56:29.710 --> 00:56:41.200 Mira Brancu: And the stuff that I like to talk about on this show is also part of my research based strategic leadership, pathway, roadmap that I use to help socially conscious organizational misfits on their leadership journeys.
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:46.739 Mira Brancu: So to learn more about that you can check us out@gotowerscope.com.
00:56:46.850 --> 00:56:57.859 Mira Brancu: You can also go check out my books, millennials, guide to workplace politics, or the workbook version, or our Leadership Academy, which is a social impact Leadership Academy and learning community.
00:56:57.990 --> 00:57:03.760 Mira Brancu: All of that can be found@gotowrascope.com, and you can subscribe to the newsletter to learn more.
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:22.750 Mira Brancu: So thank you to talkradio Dot, Nyc. For hosting together. We will navigate the complexities of leadership and emerge stronger on the other side. Thank you for joining me and Dr. Arian Alan Waite today on this journey. This is Dr. Mira Branku, signing off until next time.
00:57:22.860 --> 00:57:28.349 Mira Brancu: Stay, steady, stay present and keep building those hard skills. Muscles.
00:57:28.570 --> 00:57:30.610 Mira Brancu: Bye, everybody take care.
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