What do a Vegas showgirl, a Star Trek actress, a raw vegan chef, and a thriving artist have in common? They’re all chapters in the remarkable life of Mimi Kirk our Special Guest!
In this episode, we talk about:
🔹 Why it’s never too late to change paths
🔹 How to stay curious and vibrant through every season of life
🔹 The power of healthy habits and mindset at any age
🔹 Turning life experience into legacy
Whether you're pivoting careers, exploring a new calling, or just need a spark of inspiration—this one’s for you.
What do a Vegas showgirl, a Star Trek actress, a raw vegan chef, and a thriving artist have in common?
They’re all chapters in the remarkable life of Mimi Kirk—our latest guest on Serving Up Success with a Splash. In this week’s episode, we are showing you proof that it’s never too late to change your life and make that perfect diamond we talked about last week. At 86, Mimi is still redefining what’s possible. She’s proof that reinvention isn’t limited by age—it’s fueled by passion, purpose, and a touch of boldness.
In this episode, we talk about:
🔹 Why it’s never too late to change paths
🔹 How to stay curious and vibrant through every season of life
🔹 The power of healthy habits and mindset at any age
🔹 Turning life experience into legacy
Whether you're pivoting careers, exploring a new calling, or just need a spark of inspiration—this one's for you.
Plus, our cocktail of the week - Aperol Spritz
Ingredients:
- Ice
- 3 ounces (1 part) Aperol
- 3 ounces (1 part) dry Prosecco
- 1 ounce (a splash) club soda or unflavored sparkling water
- Orange slice, for garnish
- Add ice to a wine glass until it is nearly full. Pour in the Aperol (I usually eyeball this and pour until I’ve filled about one-third of the glass). Pour in an equal amount of Prosecco. Top your drink off with a splash of club soda and add a slice of orange. Enjoy!
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Angie Snowball shared how a personal health scare led her to adopt a raw food lifestyle, which unexpectedly sparked a new career as a bestselling cookbook author and later a successful painter. Her story illustrates the power of following curiosity and passion, using each life pivot—whether in food, art, or wellness—as a way to fuel both personal vitality and professional opportunity. For business leaders, her example underscores the value of embracing change, staying curious, and pursuing joy as strategic tools for reinvention and long-term success.
Bruce Cramer and Dr. Nawtej Dosanjh joined Angie Snowball in reflecting on how passion, curiosity, and a fear of stagnation are powerful motivators for personal and professional reinvention. Bruce shared how his transition from musician to corporate leader was driven by curiosity and mentors who recognized his potential, while Nawtej emphasized that the fear of boredom outweighed the fear of change. Angie expanded on how staying positive, being spiritually grounded, and cultivating self-belief have empowered her to take bold steps across careers—reminding business leaders that fulfillment and success often follow the courage to embrace the unknown.
In this segment of Serving Up Success with a Splash, the hosts explore what the future holds and how to embrace the unknown with curiosity and vitality. Angie Snowball shares that her continuous evolution—from food to art to entrepreneurship—has come not from planning, but from staying open, healthy, and passionate. The team emphasizes the importance of mental and physical well-being, surrounding oneself with positive influences, and staying childlike and playful in mindset—key insights for business leaders navigating change and cultivating longevity in both life and career.
In the closing segment of Serving Up Success with a Splash, the hosts reflect on the show’s core message: it’s never too late to change paths, as long as you stay passionate, curious, and committed to your health—both mental and physical. Mimi Snowball reminds listeners that success stems not from chasing trends, but from doing what you love with authenticity and resilience, while Angie and Bruce reinforce the importance of overcoming fear and rejecting societal limitations around age. Their final takeaways challenge business leaders to prioritize joy, stay open to new possibilities, and approach both aging and change as creative opportunities, not limitations.
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:21.959 Angie Snowball: I was always more vegetarian or vegan, but then I went raw food, and and the reason I did that is because a visit to the doctor showed that my cholesterol and blood pressure was high and my family all took a lot of medications, and I didn't want to, so I thought, well, I'm going to try this raw food. That was it. I got so into that. I felt so great
00:00:21.980 --> 00:00:50.400 Angie Snowball: when I went back to my doctor, he said, those pills are working. I said I didn't take them, and that's how that all started. And then somebody saw some of my recipes online, and they said you should write a book. The next thing I know now, all in my seventies I've written 7 books on plant-based food, mostly raw, but you can adjust it to anything. So I've written that in a juice book and all of that. And now I'm in my eighties and I'm painting. I don't know what to say, but
00:00:50.490 --> 00:01:19.150 Angie Snowball: it's so much fun. I started painting only recently, and I've sold probably since since Covid. I've sold over 200 paintings. I was making sourdough bread, and I said to my boyfriend, Okay, this is, I'm so tired of making bread this every day. I'm giving loaves away. Take me to the art store I never knew I could paint. And the next thing I know I painted a few things, and my granddaughter, said, Grandma, you can paint. I'm going to start a Instagram account for you. So I posted 15.
00:01:19.440 --> 00:01:24.640 Angie Snowball: She set it up. I posted 15 paintings and sold 11 out of 15 in one day.
00:01:24.880 --> 00:01:34.070 Angie Snowball: That's it. Now, now I've been painting, and I love it so much, it's so gratifying, and that's it. And I'm in good health. I feel great. I'm very
00:01:34.250 --> 00:01:35.400 Angie Snowball: spunky.
00:01:36.550 --> 00:01:44.169 Bruce Cramer: So, so I I got it so when you said Valerie was that Valerie Harper Harper.
00:01:44.170 --> 00:01:44.830 Angie Snowball: Harper.
00:01:45.180 --> 00:01:49.750 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, which was Rhoda, the the sitcom? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:49.750 --> 00:02:01.270 Bruce Cramer: wow. So our, wow. So you, I didn't know that. I've watched both, you know I'm dating myself. But of course I watched the Mary Tyler Moore show.
00:02:01.270 --> 00:02:01.900 Angie Snowball: Yes, of course.
00:02:01.900 --> 00:02:02.900 Bruce Cramer: Rolled up.
00:02:03.310 --> 00:02:04.893 Bruce Cramer: You're in that age, bracket.
00:02:05.210 --> 00:02:12.179 Bruce Cramer: which was awesome just out of curiosity. Somebody said you were also on Star Trek.
00:02:12.650 --> 00:02:26.310 Angie Snowball: Yes, I was when I 1st started working in the business as an extra. I was on Star Trek, and it was always so funny. There's a picture of me. I think I posted it online somewhere. They dressed me as an Indian maiden. It was that one. It was a
00:02:26.510 --> 00:02:45.482 Angie Snowball: pseudonym thing I don't know. It was episode. Do you remember the name? Mike? Huh? 69. I think it was 59, 69, either. Anyway, it was the one where it was. He landed in in an Indian village, and I was a handmaiden, and I offered him a big
00:02:46.170 --> 00:02:54.789 Angie Snowball: basket of fruit, a big platter of fruit, which was always funny, because then, when I became raw, everybody thought that was great. So yeah, I worked on Star Trek.
00:02:55.110 --> 00:02:55.940 Angie Snowball: It was great.
00:02:55.940 --> 00:02:58.740 Bruce Cramer: Wow, so.
00:02:58.740 --> 00:03:00.809 Angie Snowball: Before I started with Mary.
00:03:01.450 --> 00:03:07.600 Bruce Cramer: So so you are cutting in and out a little bit, Mimi. So yeah.
00:03:07.600 --> 00:03:07.980 Angie Snowball: No worries.
00:03:07.980 --> 00:03:12.279 Bruce Cramer: There you go! There you go! Yup, lean, lean forward because you're just just.
00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.530 Angie Snowball: Talk to her.
00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.539 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, you gotta lean right into the mic. By.
00:03:17.540 --> 00:03:20.589 Angie Snowball: I'm leaning in. Okay, so that.
00:03:20.590 --> 00:03:27.250 Bruce Cramer: So, Natas Latash, you probably have a question for her by now, right.
00:03:27.250 --> 00:03:52.030 nawtej dosanjh: I do, and the question I have is really related to to, you know, a couple of times my own, my own pivot. You know I've done a couple of times in my life where I've really pivoted to, you know, being uber healthy, obsessively uber healthy around exercise and eating, and I go raw part of the week, too, totally raw vegetables and
00:03:52.270 --> 00:04:00.320 nawtej dosanjh: a bit of fruit and fish, but raw vegetables, and I think the question I have maybe really is.
00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:04.150 nawtej dosanjh: How did you know how to
00:04:04.550 --> 00:04:21.290 nawtej dosanjh: that? You needed to pivot? What was it? What was it? Was it a feeling? Was it a sense? Was it intuition? Was it, you know? Did you have a did you read a management book? I doubt it. But you know, how did you? How did you know that you had to do these pivots.
00:04:22.840 --> 00:04:33.369 Angie Snowball: I know. One thing is, I always have to be passionate about what I do. I want to wake up every day excited about what I do. And when I went into when I started eating the raw food.
00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:59.500 Angie Snowball: I mean, I love to cook. I'm a really good cook, and I go. This isn't going to work for me, but my health comes first.st So I started the raw food and I looked online to look up recipes. I didn't like it. And I thought, this is doesn't taste that great. I'm gonna I love juicing. By the way, I think everybody should do that because you really get a lot of nutrients in juice every day? That's an easy. It's an easy fix for people who don't eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. And so I,
00:04:59.790 --> 00:05:02.350 Angie Snowball: I looked online didn't like
00:05:02.490 --> 00:05:25.910 Angie Snowball: the food at all. And I went, okay, this is not going to be easy. I'm not just going to eat carrots and celery sticks all day, so I thought, oh, wait a minute. Everything has to do with spices. How do I make Mexican food? How do I make Asian food? How do I make Italian food? It's all about the spices. So I developed all these amazing recipes. And I was putting them online, just I didn't have a big following. And then all of a sudden.
00:05:26.030 --> 00:05:32.810 Angie Snowball: I get a I see something on that. I forgot this part. I saw something on the side of my Facebook page. And it said
00:05:33.330 --> 00:05:45.520 Angie Snowball: there were that Peta, the the group that's the for the animals, Peta. They were looking for. You know the sexiest vegetarian alive. So I just put in my name
00:05:45.520 --> 00:06:13.490 Angie Snowball: and a photo. And the next thing I get a call. And they said, Are you really 70? I said, yes, it was over 50. Are you really 70? I said, yes, they said, Okay, well, they said, Can you give us some proof. So I had to show them my passport or something. And then they said, Okay, you're in the contest. So I happened to win that contest. I know it's because I was the oldest 1 70, and there was a girl in there she was. She had a bikini on. It was like lettuce leaves
00:06:14.490 --> 00:06:43.430 Angie Snowball: funny, and I just I was actually cut a picture off. I was had my head on my boyfriend's chest, and so I just use that picture. So I won. And then all of a sudden, the news media is calling me. And I I went from just a hundred people on my Facebook page to like 1,200 in 2 days, and then they kept having me on different shows, and you know it kind of built up. And then eventually, I've been on Dr. Oz. I've been on Rachel Ray. I've been on the doctors. I've been on
00:06:45.450 --> 00:06:55.380 Angie Snowball: Steve Harvey show they all, would they they jeopardy? They all? Yeah. Well, that just kind of happened that all of that stuff just kind of happened. And it just grew.
00:06:55.380 --> 00:07:06.079 nawtej dosanjh: But Mimi for Mimi. That's that's the pivot around food, right? But you've done a few. You've done a few. I'm really interested to find out. What is it in your brain? The
00:07:06.080 --> 00:07:12.290 nawtej dosanjh: yeah makes you think, okay, I'm not gonna mow lawns anymore. I'm gonna.
00:07:12.290 --> 00:07:12.650 Angie Snowball: Right.
00:07:12.650 --> 00:07:16.610 nawtej dosanjh: Fly to the moon next week. You know. What is it that makes you change.
00:07:16.610 --> 00:07:45.960 Angie Snowball: I think it's once I do it, and it's fun, and I've accomplished it. I think I need some new stimulation, and I need to be passionate again. It was like I was so excited. You know. Every step has been that way, even when I was making sourdough bread. I love making it. I perfected it. I got it down. I had those. I was making 2 loaves a day. I was walking in the morning, coming home baked. I was so happy. And all of a sudden it's like, Okay, I got that down. I don't know what possessed me to go get some art supplies.
00:07:46.050 --> 00:08:00.800 Angie Snowball: I don't know how that was, but I was the next thing. At least I could go do something different. I think that's what happens in my brain is that I need more stimulation, and I need something new. So every time I finish with something I'm kind of finished with it.
00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:19.820 Angie Snowball: People are still asking me to do interviews on the food thing. I just had someone who's a big influencer asked me to do it. I've turned everybody down recently because I'm painting right now for a show, and that's all I could think about. So I think that's what happens. And honestly, when I think back as a kid, I think I've always had that I don't know. I have
00:08:19.820 --> 00:08:25.980 Angie Snowball: sibling. My sister isn't like that, but I think I've always looked for, you know, excitement and passion.
00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:43.130 Angie Snowball: I really feel like that keeps people when they're older, going because you have to have something. I always used to tell people my speaking engagements. You have to find something you love to do. So when you wake up in the morning you're excited, and that, and that you might have to change your job or change something to have it. If you don't feel it.
00:08:43.630 --> 00:08:56.179 Angie Snowball: it's you're wasting your time to me. I'd be wasting my time if I wasn't like. I know I'm working on this painting downstairs. I can't wait to get to it. You know that kind of feeling. So I think that's what happens in my brain, or I'm just lucky.
00:08:56.180 --> 00:09:16.930 Angie Snowball: No, I think it's true. So we got to go to break in a second here. But, Bruce, this reminds me of when you and I chose were talking about curiosity. A lot of things go back to just being curious if you're going to be happy. So let's go to break. And then, Bruce, you tell us I know you change to tell us how you knew it was time to change when we get back.
00:09:16.930 --> 00:09:18.520 Angie Snowball: Jesse, you want to take us to break.
00:09:20.370 --> 00:09:20.760 Angie Snowball: We're not.
00:11:06.520 --> 00:11:10.010 Angie Snowball: All right, Bruce, tell us how you knew it's time to change.
00:11:10.690 --> 00:11:17.560 Bruce Cramer: Oh, good God! So I I'll keep this brief, and if not, I know one of you will tell me to shut up, so
00:11:17.930 --> 00:11:18.670 Bruce Cramer: do it.
00:11:18.670 --> 00:11:41.690 Bruce Cramer: So, you know, just like Mimi, you know. For me it's been passion and curiosity. So when I you know, when I think back to my younger teenage days which goes way back. I was very much into music, and I was very fortunate. I grew up in Green Bay, Wisconsin, so it wasn't exactly the Mecca.
00:11:41.690 --> 00:11:50.849 Bruce Cramer: but I could be a little bit of the big fish in a little pond, so I was a drummer, a timpanist for the Green Bay Symphony that sort of thing.
00:11:51.269 --> 00:11:56.300 Bruce Cramer: But nonetheless, at the age of 15 I started to play professionally.
00:11:56.380 --> 00:12:22.760 Bruce Cramer: and it was just a hoot. I had the time of my life I was young, and you know nothing seemed impossible, and my dream was to get to Madison Square Garden, and I will come full circle with this, however, that didn't work out, and my dad kept saying, you need a backup band just in case a backup plan, just in case you don't make it to, you know.
00:12:22.760 --> 00:12:40.819 Bruce Cramer: into the big apple, and be able to play venues like that. So, lo and behold, I shopped around for like a you know, a job that would allow some flexibility, because we did do a little bit of touring and recording and that sort of thing. And I landed at this organization called Granger.
00:12:41.160 --> 00:12:51.329 Bruce Cramer: And what was really I was really curious because basically, I started out cleaning toilets, unloading trailers, stocking shelves, that sort of thing.
00:12:51.590 --> 00:13:05.520 Bruce Cramer: But what intrigued me? It was a very nurturing organization. Now keep in mind. I'm still playing at this time, still performing locally and around a 3 state area. However.
00:13:05.730 --> 00:13:21.940 Bruce Cramer: they, you know, it was amazing how concerned they were for my well-being, how they wanted to kind of nurture me, and you know, lo and behold. After a few years they asked me, they said, Would you ever want to run one of these stores?
00:13:21.940 --> 00:13:35.900 Bruce Cramer: And at that moment, in time it was my curiosity. I've been playing. I'll admit it. I was a little strung out. I enjoyed the life a little too much, you know. Sex drugs and rock and roll.
00:13:35.900 --> 00:13:53.960 Bruce Cramer: That was pretty pretty good, but I was starting to burn out, and I was like 2122 years old. I met my 1st wife, who was awesome in giving me a little bit of clarity. And so I realized at that point that my passion
00:13:53.960 --> 00:14:07.329 Bruce Cramer: and my curiosity went beyond even what I was doing at that time, and this organization, Granger, who believes in aligning passions, skill and need, saw something in me.
00:14:07.580 --> 00:14:27.929 Bruce Cramer: I'm sure they're still trying to figure that out. But lo and behold! I was able to run my own branch, and I also had to move from Green Bay, which I had been born and raised there, that's all I've ever known. And so I got to move to Minneapolis and run my 1st branch.
00:14:27.930 --> 00:14:49.139 Bruce Cramer: Well, that just took off well, all of a sudden there was this whole new world that I was exposed to, that offered just an endless array of learning, and you know, and again. I've had great mentors along the way, so many people to thank, and eventually, you know, I caught the attention of corporate.
00:14:49.180 --> 00:15:00.659 Bruce Cramer: and I would say I knew to pivot because I started to realize I do everything like in 10 years. And just as Mimi said, I'm a little add, I get bored.
00:15:00.990 --> 00:15:30.240 Bruce Cramer: So I just get bored. It's like, Okay, I've done this. You get to a certain level of achievement and you go. I need something else. There's got to be something else. And so they brought me in the corporate to. At that time they picked like 12 people from the various disciplines finance, you know, Hr product management. I was operations because I was running stores and stuff, and they brought us in to help make the cut
00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:57.009 Bruce Cramer: to new technology. This was around 1995, all of a sudden, technology was infiltrating. And here you had this distribution company, and I remember the overwhelming feeling I had when they said, Hey, we're going to look to you to introduce technology into this organization on behalf of our operations, to really leapfrog the competition. And I'm thinking
00:15:57.140 --> 00:16:06.939 Bruce Cramer: I kind of know word. Not very good with excel. But I'm okay with Powerpoint. What the hell would you? Well, that opened up a world.
00:16:06.940 --> 00:16:13.519 Angie Snowball: Awesome, Bruce, like what you're saying is like, it's all about cause we're talking about change and how that works right.
00:16:13.520 --> 00:16:13.900 Bruce Cramer: Yeah.
00:16:13.900 --> 00:16:38.329 Angie Snowball: How do you know it's time to change for one? Some of it is. It just happens it comes at. You have the curiosity and try to do it. I think the next step is like kind of where you're going right now. I'm just fast forwarding for you is what happens when you're scared right? Because you get to you. Get to like, okay, I got to change, either. I'm unhappy. My health is there. Something happened? I got to change.
00:16:38.350 --> 00:16:56.879 Angie Snowball: Now, what happens is it's scary, right? Because that happened to me a lot. I knew I needed to. I should have changed way before I did. Mimi will attest to that? She wanted to push me a few times, I think, but I was scared because you get comfortable, and you're scared. So I think that's the next thing we should talk about is, how do you deal with that fear?
00:16:56.880 --> 00:16:57.620 Bruce Cramer: Yeah.
00:16:57.620 --> 00:17:03.070 Angie Snowball: Now, how do you deal with the fear of change? And how do you push yourself forward to grow?
00:17:04.550 --> 00:17:06.379 Angie Snowball: No, tez, you want to field that one.
00:17:06.859 --> 00:17:08.139 nawtej dosanjh: But well.
00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:13.909 nawtej dosanjh: no, that's why I stayed silent. But I will, because you said it so charmingly Angie, so
00:17:14.833 --> 00:17:19.019 nawtej dosanjh: how do you deal with it. I think that the
00:17:20.389 --> 00:17:25.019 nawtej dosanjh: I think of the way I deal with that fear is that I have a greater fear
00:17:25.329 --> 00:17:28.749 nawtej dosanjh: that I'll end up bored and boring
00:17:29.349 --> 00:17:31.359 nawtej dosanjh: if I don't do the change.
00:17:31.999 --> 00:17:38.229 nawtej dosanjh: So there's a greater fear of sitting in an armchair and growing old and.
00:17:38.230 --> 00:17:38.620 Angie Snowball: Oh!
00:17:38.620 --> 00:17:39.160 nawtej dosanjh: I'll say that.
00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:40.320 Angie Snowball: All the time too.
00:17:40.320 --> 00:17:58.220 nawtej dosanjh: So I don't. Wanna. I read somewhere, and I can't remember what it was within the last 2, 3 years. I read somewhere, how do people? How do people stay young like maybe even when they're, you know, 86. I thought I misheard when you said you were born in 90 38. I thought you said 58.
00:18:00.130 --> 00:18:09.299 nawtej dosanjh: How do? How do you stay? How do you stay? And and 2 things struck me in this article. One is that you've got to keep moving.
00:18:09.940 --> 00:18:29.829 nawtej dosanjh: So I love what you say about raw food. I think that's great, and I do it too, and I juice as well. But just move. Don't sit down. Do not sit in an armchair, because that's the best way to go. Get on. But the other thing was, make sure you're loved by someone, and you have somebody to love.
00:18:31.412 --> 00:18:33.050 Angie Snowball: Yeah, that's a really good one.
00:18:33.350 --> 00:18:40.639 Bruce Cramer: And and, Mimi, I got a question for you. So what gives you the courage to step into all of these? Very different?
00:18:40.810 --> 00:18:47.780 Bruce Cramer: You know what gives you that courage. And we're also getting hit by somebody here online. You're so positive.
00:18:47.950 --> 00:18:50.109 Bruce Cramer: How? How do you maintain that?
00:18:50.550 --> 00:18:50.990 Bruce Cramer: 2 questions?
00:18:51.510 --> 00:18:55.339 Bruce Cramer: How do you get the courage, and how do you stay so damn positive.
00:18:55.550 --> 00:19:20.539 Angie Snowball: Well, I always say it's stupidity, because really, when I was developing my board game I didn't even play games. I it's something I was living in Taos, New Mexico, and something came to me to do that before I have to say all my changes were survival. I was supporting my kids. And so it was just having a job. I wasn't thinking about a career. I was married so young and then left without anything, no money, no insurance
00:19:20.540 --> 00:19:36.319 Angie Snowball: or anything. So I was really on my own, and all I did was think about raising my kids. But when they were grown and out on their own. Then all of a sudden, I started creating things like I made a lot of jewelry for Valerie on the show, and and she wore that. So I went into the jewelry business. That was natural.
00:19:36.320 --> 00:19:40.850 Angie Snowball: I then I got bored with that just too much sales and not enough
00:19:40.850 --> 00:19:58.549 Angie Snowball: doing it, not enough of the creative part. And then I had a whole team of people assembling jewelry for me. It was like drove me crazy. It was a business, and that wasn't, that didn't feel right to me. So then I moved on. And then, anyway, when I was living in Taos, New Mexico, and I was developing this board game. And I'm writing all these questions, and I'm
00:19:58.590 --> 00:20:03.810 Angie Snowball: doing this whole thing. And and I thought, I am so stupid I have no idea what I'm doing.
00:20:03.950 --> 00:20:17.979 Angie Snowball: and I somebody in Tao said, Oh, I know somebody at Milton, Bradley. We can get you hooked up, I call them. And they say, Oh, yeah, well, we don't really do games for women's. But okay, come in and we'll see it's just not really our thing.
00:20:17.980 --> 00:20:39.790 Angie Snowball: So I got there. And I had a video of women playing the game. And all of a sudden it was just like the film, the Barbie film where they went. And it was all men, and I go in there with this game for women. And then they see this video and they go. Oh, let's have lunch. They kept me there, I said. There are any women that work here that develop anything. Oh, they bring the games to us in our office. It was like, Oh, my God, they're so.
00:20:39.800 --> 00:21:06.170 Angie Snowball: It was just like that. When I saw that movie, I thought, That is them right there with their as I was doing this game, I thought to myself, and I told my kids because they've always loved the fact that, you know, I really feel I've been a good example for them to keep moving and doing things that you love, and having maybe turned down something working for you doesn't matter how much you're being paid or how much you're making. That has nothing to do with it. You have to have it here. So
00:21:06.170 --> 00:21:22.910 Angie Snowball: I am. I really feel like I didn't know what I was. I didn't question myself, and I look back at it and I go. Oh, my God! How did I get this game made? I raised money. I didn't go with Milton Bradley. They wanted it. I decided they would just stick it somewhere, and no one knew what to do with that game. So I just raised money.
00:21:22.910 --> 00:21:34.039 Angie Snowball: I raised enough money to get the game made, and then I was just on my way. I just don't have the fear I have learned. If I'm afraid of something, it excites me, so I go do it.
00:21:34.040 --> 00:21:34.640 Bruce Cramer: Yeah.
00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:50.120 Angie Snowball: Like now as an artist, this is scary. Every time I paint something. Is anyone going to like this? And I think to myself, I don't like it. So now I'm just if I like it, somebody will like it. So now that's where I'm at with it. I'll paint something, and I paint over things I don't like, and I
00:21:50.300 --> 00:21:53.400 Angie Snowball: I'll throw some more paint on it, and then I go. This is it
00:21:53.480 --> 00:22:01.259 Angie Snowball: so? I don't. I don't know about fear. We all have it. But so what? Why, just go through it? It is just go through it.
00:22:01.260 --> 00:22:29.930 Angie Snowball: yes, or what would happen, or what I was supposed to do. And I think the one thing that has really helped me finally change and finally be where I want to be is I'm not afraid, because I'm comfortable with myself. I'm proud of who I am and what I've done, and I could not care less what anyone else thinks about me, and I'm 50, and that's brand new to me. So if you're 30, get on it. Now.
00:22:29.930 --> 00:22:33.609 Angie Snowball: don't wait right now.
00:22:34.540 --> 00:22:42.800 Bruce Cramer: I like what Mimi had to say that fear equates to. If you think of it, you know there's always 2 sides to every emotion.
00:22:42.990 --> 00:22:45.560 Bruce Cramer: The other side of fear is excitement.
00:22:46.110 --> 00:22:46.670 Angie Snowball: Excitement.
00:22:46.670 --> 00:23:05.980 Bruce Cramer: It. Yeah. And I think that's what you know. Whenever you get that sense of fear, just think of the upside, and how exciting that's going to be. Because most most of us, what we do isn't life and death. So what's the worst that could happen.
00:23:06.810 --> 00:23:17.760 Angie Snowball: Yeah, you don't. You don't have to play it safe, you know. It's so interesting. I, when I used to go out, did a lot of speaking engagements all over the world with my book, and I used to tell people your mind and body are connected.
00:23:17.910 --> 00:23:47.380 Angie Snowball: Don't say things you don't want, because your body can hear you, you have to be. You have to say that's about the whole positive thing like I get up in the morning. And before I actually open my eyes I wake up. I say, this is going to be a magical day. I kind of go through my body, and I thank my cells, because to me that's what keeps you moving your cells, they change over all the time. But if you're not in a good place they don't change over and with strength, so I like to let them know I'm grateful to them and all of that. But don't I say zip it
00:23:48.140 --> 00:24:11.939 Angie Snowball: about yourself, and don't say what you don't want. Say what you want, and then your body hears you, and the universe hears you. I'm very spiritual about those things. I do believe you can create that happening. And I don't. You know, I want to be aware of everything happening in the world right now. But I don't want to be. I don't want it to take me over, so I have to use whatever I have for myself and say every moment counts. Am I spending it the way I want?
00:24:12.150 --> 00:24:35.559 Angie Snowball: And I think that's really important every day. This is all we have right now, this minute. There's nothing else. We don't know what's going to happen next. So we got to have fun. We got to enjoy it. I think that's a really important thing as you get older is that you don't have to be sitting in a chair. You know. I try to stay as active as possible. I can run rings around people sometime. I really do have a lot of energy, but I know it's my mental.
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:44.420 Angie Snowball: It's it's my mental attitude about things. I feel. Really. You talked about positivity. I think you have to have it. And my, I'm
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:56.210 Angie Snowball: I feel so lucky every morning I wake up that I'm going to be 87 this year that I'm still here, and I can still enjoy my family, and we're close. Our family is really tight, and I can still have fun. I can still paint, and
00:24:56.390 --> 00:25:05.210 Angie Snowball: you know, and whatever happens next, if something happens health-wise, I'll figure that out. I've always figured out what I need to do. I think my strength really came
00:25:05.300 --> 00:25:27.859 Angie Snowball: after I lost my husband, and I was just. Really I felt like a child then, being married at 17. I felt at that. After that I started meditating. I went to see I had living gurus. I went to India. All of that started meditating, and then I realized right then my strength, which I never knew before, and that's carried me through. I was able to support. My family, had awesome kids. They're all great.
00:25:27.860 --> 00:25:42.870 Angie Snowball: I feel really accomplished with that, and actually, nothing else is important. Yeah, like love. Yes, you want to love and be loved, and and do the best for your family and tell the people you love. You love them, and honestly, that can carry you through anything.
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:46.460 Angie Snowball: And yeah, all right, I know Jesse's done
00:25:46.460 --> 00:25:47.889 Angie Snowball: trying to take us to break.
00:25:48.170 --> 00:25:51.179 nawtej dosanjh: Great great advice, though. Thank you.
00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:52.290 Bruce Cramer: Yes, awesome.
00:25:52.290 --> 00:25:58.770 Angie Snowball: We got one last break and Nataj, we're gonna let you talk again. Your turn when we come back.
00:25:59.840 --> 00:26:00.510 Angie Snowball: See.
00:26:00.660 --> 00:26:01.720 nawtej dosanjh: Okay.
00:27:33.040 --> 00:27:35.330 Angie Snowball: Cutting out. I don't even think it's us.
00:27:36.580 --> 00:27:54.200 Angie Snowball: hey, guys. So we're back. We're just chatting amongst ourselves because it's fun. And we do that a lot. We entertain ourselves quite a bit. So hope you find us as fun as we do. So, Natish, you got a question you want to ask us, or something you want to say, because if not, I'll keep talking.
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.689 nawtej dosanjh: No, I got. I I've got. I've got a question so.
00:27:57.690 --> 00:27:58.140 Angie Snowball: Okay.
00:27:58.438 --> 00:28:12.460 nawtej dosanjh: And actually everyone, Bruce Mimi and and you and G. You know, we've talked about pivots and knowing when to change. And I think we've had. We've we've had some good insights. I've certainly had some good insights from from all of you. Particularly, Mimi.
00:28:12.828 --> 00:28:20.529 nawtej dosanjh: What is it that you haven't done, maybe. What are you? What are the pivots to come? What what are you interested in doing in the future? That's a good pivot.
00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:33.369 Angie Snowball: That's really a good question. And my family and I we always laugh about it. I go. There'll be something else. I just don't know what yet. But I said, you know, maybe
00:28:33.470 --> 00:28:53.149 Angie Snowball: later, I've always felt there's something I'm going to do. I don't know what is. I always kid around with them, I said, well, maybe I'll do nude movies or something. My nineties, I have to do something exciting, you know. I have to do something exciting. No, I you know I don't know what's next. I really don't. But I know every time I say to my kids
00:28:53.900 --> 00:29:08.699 Angie Snowball: you think painting, is it? No, there'll be something else. So every it's always been that way, even my, I mean, I thought I was going to do this booth thing forever, and by the end of it. My game. I thought I did. I did that 10 years. That was, I went out and did all the trade shows, and
00:29:08.870 --> 00:29:15.460 Angie Snowball: I met great people. I was in hundreds of stores all over, get a catalog. They sold thousands and thousands of games, I mean
00:29:15.710 --> 00:29:35.179 Angie Snowball: hundreds of thousands of games, and that was I was so passionate about it. And then, all of a sudden, I wasn't anymore. And that was it. And then I started the food thing, and then that was it for me. I thought that would be it forever. I would do that. And then something else came, so I don't know right now. I love painting. I probably could do it forever. Even Monet.
00:29:35.180 --> 00:29:35.640 nawtej dosanjh: No.
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:36.150 Angie Snowball: Steven.
00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:41.534 Angie Snowball: So right now, that's it. But whatever I'm gonna do next, man, you'll be around. You'll hear about it.
00:29:41.800 --> 00:29:42.480 Angie Snowball: Okay.
00:29:43.917 --> 00:29:49.289 nawtej dosanjh: What about you, Angie? What what's left for you? And then Bruce.
00:29:49.290 --> 00:29:50.029 Angie Snowball: You know.
00:29:50.190 --> 00:29:56.510 Angie Snowball: I think the key for me is that I don't know, and I'm not gonna look for it. I always looked for it.
00:29:56.510 --> 00:29:57.000 nawtej dosanjh: Oh!
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:24.339 Angie Snowball: And I never found it. As soon as I gave up and said, Look, I'm just gonna listen and take care of myself and get my mind in a good place. It it kind of started coming to me, and things are changing all the time, you know. Here I'm doing this marketing thing. And Bruce says, Hey, do you drink? Do you want to do a podcast I said, Yeah, Yeah, sounds, fun. So something changes all the time. I'm not going to look for it. I'm just going to be open for it.
00:30:24.620 --> 00:30:26.650 Angie Snowball: Health is wealth.
00:30:26.790 --> 00:30:44.830 Angie Snowball: If you're not healthy as you age, you can't do all these things. And so I have to focus and say that that has been a really important thing for me, because I know that this is the reason I can do what I do now, and change careers, or whatever I'll continue is because I'm healthy and.
00:30:44.830 --> 00:30:45.250 nawtej dosanjh: Cool.
00:30:45.250 --> 00:31:10.929 Angie Snowball: You know, I think a lot. If you're not healthy, you have to work on getting healthy, and that should be your focus. Everybody gets something. When they get older you get something happen to you. You can't take it as a bad thing or anything. You just deal with it and keep moving. But food is really important. Exercise is really important, and thinking positive is really important, and that and mental health is really important. And you have
00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:36.659 Angie Snowball: complete control over yourself, your body and everything. Yes, you're going to maybe have some things. That's a gene situation. That's okay. You can still manage your health. That's how I feel. So you can do anything. You're open to anything. I'm not kidding when I say I could be doing movies or movies or whatever. But no, I always joke about that, because as long as I'm healthy I can do anything I want which I don't know what will be next. But that's what I tell anybody.
00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:38.530 Angie Snowball: Take care of your health.
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:44.620 Angie Snowball: Yes, that's no. It's all starts to mental health and health as well.
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:53.200 nawtej dosanjh: I'd love to hear what Bruce has to say, though what what anything left for you, Bruce, the way, where are your next pivots? Or do you have similar answers to.
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.460 Bruce Cramer: Well, I've realized you don't need to grow up.
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:05.740 Bruce Cramer: and you just stay curious and keep playing. I mean, I can tell you how many times people say, Well, what do you want to be when you grow up? I don't want to grow up.
00:32:05.970 --> 00:32:09.870 Bruce Cramer: I want to be childlike until the day I hit the grave.
00:32:09.870 --> 00:32:14.319 Bruce Cramer: Because, yeah, look at kids. They mirror Mimi.
00:32:14.700 --> 00:32:28.060 Bruce Cramer: It's an ever, never ending thirst for what's next? What else could we do? What other trouble can we get into. So just keep playing. Stay curious and don't grow up.
00:32:28.730 --> 00:32:53.030 Angie Snowball: Yeah, don't grow up. I like that and trust the process. Trust yourself. Trust that it's going to come to you, and don't look at yourself and say, Oh, my gosh! I'm 50! I couldn't change now. Oh, my gosh, I'm 60! I couldn't change now. She's still over here, changing at 87, 86, and pushing you forward. But I think that's a big one she's rounding up.
00:32:53.130 --> 00:32:55.170 Angie Snowball: Oh, how about? I think that's a bit.
00:32:55.170 --> 00:33:23.109 nawtej dosanjh: I have another question. I have another question for all of you. Okay, and and this may apply differently to all 3 of you because your experiences and your backgrounds are different and your contexts are different. How did you overcome any negative or inertia around you? You know people were there. People who were negative in your in your life don't obviously don't name them. Don't give us a list, maybe, of the negative people.
00:33:24.080 --> 00:33:33.309 nawtej dosanjh: So how did you overcome any negativity in in your life? Or were you really fortunate that you only had positive people around.
00:33:34.280 --> 00:33:56.839 Angie Snowball: I think I'm very fortunate, and I don't remember much about that. Maybe as a child, even as a child. When I think about it. You know, my mom, my mom was an awesome person. I wasn't really close with my dad. My sister was really close with him. We always say we had different fathers, but I don't, I think, even as a child I remember I was 7 years old standing out on the front yard and saying.
00:33:56.990 --> 00:34:09.529 Angie Snowball: I'm going to go get my own house and do my own thing. I was already thinking about that. I started a little club with my girlfriends, and when I got to high school I was president of my club, and but I feel like I was. Really. I'm lucky.
00:34:10.060 --> 00:34:14.160 Angie Snowball: Don't really feel like I I do stay away from negative people.
00:34:14.290 --> 00:34:25.520 Angie Snowball: Now that I'm aware of that kind of thing, I don't friendships. And you know, I think that's really important thing you don't need, and I know sometimes it's in the family, and you're kind of stuck with it.
00:34:25.780 --> 00:34:36.480 Angie Snowball: But you don't have to make it part of your part of your life just because somebody else in your family is that way. That's the thing, because everybody has a what they consider the black sheep or something.
00:34:36.489 --> 00:34:37.039 nawtej dosanjh: And.
00:34:37.219 --> 00:34:42.779 Angie Snowball: Yeah, I I just stay away from that. I think I'm just so lucky to be so positive. That's all.
00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:44.340 nawtej dosanjh: Okay. Yeah.
00:34:45.060 --> 00:35:12.280 Angie Snowball: Yeah. And I think when you do have that, and you're those negative people like, maybe said sometimes it's family, or sometimes it's someone. It's maybe you can't remove yourself from the people, but you can still remove yourself from the situation. So just taking that away, spending less time in there, or, and also, if you do, there's things you have to do just being prepared for it when you walk in the door, saying your mindset, you will not get me down
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:30.009 Angie Snowball: just because you think this. It's not going to hurt me. You know. I joke about having a suit of armor. Now, you know, like I go in there, you might chink it, but you're not going to break it, because I'm comfortable with this, and you just don't let them get in there you build this wall. Compassion really helps instead of
00:35:30.259 --> 00:35:45.370 Angie Snowball: if you can look at that person and have compassion for them, it won't affect you the same way as that. You're thinking they're negative, and they're going to annoy you. Just have compassion that you can tell that they're like you wish that it was different for them. And I think that helps a lot. When you come around, people like that.
00:35:45.410 --> 00:35:47.740 Angie Snowball: Yeah, yeah, like.
00:35:47.740 --> 00:35:56.299 nawtej dosanjh: So you've got lots of interesting things to say about that, because you you know, you've had a we've got a we've had a hint. You've had a really interesting life, mate.
00:35:57.260 --> 00:36:05.730 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, I you know. What I would say is, you know, in a lot of my clients. The 1st thing I say to them, you are the company you keep
00:36:06.770 --> 00:36:10.480 Bruce Cramer: and so I do deselect
00:36:10.670 --> 00:36:15.900 Bruce Cramer: negative people. I may not always deselect to Mimi's
00:36:15.910 --> 00:36:37.459 Bruce Cramer: point. There's good in all of us, but there is. There is no doubt that if you know there are people that the classes have full, and I just choose not to work with them. I can converse with them I can hang out. But this is not somebody that's going to feed my passion and happiness.
00:36:37.868 --> 00:36:49.709 Bruce Cramer: So I limit any exposure to those kind of individuals, and I encourage all of my clients, you know. Really take a strong look at the company you keep.
00:36:51.580 --> 00:36:52.190 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah.
00:36:55.030 --> 00:36:58.430 Angie Snowball: How about you? Not just your turn. Don't try to wiggle out.
00:37:00.843 --> 00:37:08.990 nawtej dosanjh: So so I think similar versions of versions of this of the same. I,
00:37:10.243 --> 00:37:25.139 nawtej dosanjh: yeah, versions of the same where it's basically you learn to sort of thing you learn, you learn or or you don't learn, and then and then you end up in a rut. You learn to to associate with people who are making you happy.
00:37:25.940 --> 00:37:36.350 nawtej dosanjh: You you learn to, you learn to deselect. I think that's a really good word, deselect people who are making, and you don't always know why they're making you unhappy or down
00:37:37.046 --> 00:37:55.059 nawtej dosanjh: so so I don't know. I don't think I have anything new to add to that, I think it's I think there's I think it. It requires some practice. If you're not fortunate, it requires some practice and some failure before you get get there, Bruce, you want to get in.
00:37:55.470 --> 00:38:02.090 Bruce Cramer: Well, I you know I'll say this, you know, Mimi, you know, says she's been very fortunate.
00:38:02.220 --> 00:38:10.120 Bruce Cramer: but you got to remember you're you're a role model in all of this, and as somebody mentioned that chimed into the chat here.
00:38:10.570 --> 00:38:32.619 Bruce Cramer: you know the fact that you're so positive. Mimi brings everybody up. So I also think the reason why you've been so fortunate and in you you know that the people in your life have been very supportive and pot. It's you, and I think everybody has to look in the mirror that it does start and end with you.
00:38:32.660 --> 00:38:47.100 Bruce Cramer: And so I don't think it's an accident, Mimi. I think you're the type of individual that just brings the best out of people. And thus it's a very positive win-win situation in most things you engage in.
00:38:47.790 --> 00:39:01.870 Angie Snowball: Well, I love people. I think people get that, you know, when I'm with people I have compassion, and I and I just love people. So you know, it's so interesting a lot of people say when they're on social media, they get all these negative comments. I have to tell you out of all my
00:39:02.340 --> 00:39:25.459 Angie Snowball: many followers on Instagram or Facebook, or whatever. I don't get any of that. I don't have. Some people say, you know. Some people say, Oh, my God! People are doing this to me, or that. I really haven't had that maybe a couple times. People have said something, I think, because I got the Covid shot, somebody started saying, How could you get that? You're a raw foodist, but that's about the worst I've had.
00:39:25.490 --> 00:39:35.790 Angie Snowball: Otherwise I somehow don't draw that into my circle so, and if someone says anything, I just try to be loving about it. And I think that's really important.
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:43.179 Angie Snowball: And you know. I think that's it, you know. I mean, we went to a restaurant last night, and the waitress said, I wish everybody was as nice as you.
00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:56.079 Angie Snowball: and you know, it's a restaurant I go to on occasion. And I gave her a hug, and I said, Well, they're not happy people, so we're lucky that we are happy. People said, You're right, that's it. That's the way I kind of look at it. But I talked to her.
00:39:56.380 --> 00:39:59.980 nawtej dosanjh: With you. I'm gonna hang out with you. I'm gonna get.
00:40:00.520 --> 00:40:04.449 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah. Let's you get it. Can you get a flight flight over to London?
00:40:05.030 --> 00:40:11.480 Angie Snowball: I'm I'm ready to go to London. I love London. It's a great place. Yeah, I mean, I really.
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:11.850 nawtej dosanjh: Time. Yeah.
00:40:11.850 --> 00:40:12.870 Angie Snowball: Really feel that.
00:40:13.740 --> 00:40:29.460 Angie Snowball: You know I I have. I have 4 kids, and one of my daughters is just. She's walks into a room, and she just lights up the whole place. That's how she is. She's very much. She has a lot of the things that I have as my youngest, and she walks into a room, and she's just full of love, and
00:40:29.460 --> 00:40:53.059 Angie Snowball: and nourishes people all the time, and I just feel that even people on the street when I see people on the street. It's really hard for me to see women in upper age bracket on the street. I feel a compassion for them. I don't judge them. Why are they there? And what's happening? I just you know I do what I can. I give money sometimes sometimes I have food or whatever. But I do feel very compassionate about people, and I think that
00:40:53.280 --> 00:41:05.259 Angie Snowball: you know everybody is. I mean, there's some awful people out there. They're not saying that everybody is great, that there are some people, but I don't know what got them that way, so I can't judge why they are that way. What? Why.
00:41:05.260 --> 00:41:12.169 nawtej dosanjh: I think that's a really lovely thing to say. And there's a really lovely do we have to go to break Angie and.
00:41:12.170 --> 00:41:19.389 Angie Snowball: We got our very last break guys, and then we'll come back and talk about not judging people. How about that?
00:41:19.390 --> 00:41:20.560 Bruce Cramer: Oh, shit.
00:41:22.505 --> 00:41:27.325 Angie Snowball: Isn't good at that.
00:43:13.260 --> 00:43:19.210 Angie Snowball: Alright, guys, we are back and we were kind of crap bad at doing breaks this time.
00:43:19.606 --> 00:43:29.709 Angie Snowball: So the last segment is going to be super short. Bruce. Natej, what do you? I think? Basically, what we told you here is, it's never too late to change your path.
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:53.100 Angie Snowball: Be passionate about what you're doing. If you're scared, get over yourself, get your mental health and check, stay positive, and all changes possible. Be curious and be open to it, so any other, and take care of your health, health as well, health, mental and physical. So let's go, Bruce. What's your takeaway? And then we'll do not tej, and then, if we have time, let's play a game.
00:43:56.380 --> 00:43:58.639 nawtej dosanjh: You're on mute, you, Bruce, you're on mute.
00:43:58.640 --> 00:43:59.200 Angie Snowball: I guess.
00:43:59.200 --> 00:44:02.080 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, somebody does that on purpose to me. I'm just saying.
00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:05.740 Angie Snowball: I swear it's not me. It is kind of funny, though I thought about it, but.
00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:30.680 Bruce Cramer: You know. So 1st of all, thank you so much, Mimi, for joining us, and for all of you out there listening again. We're very appreciative. We're always dumbfounded by everybody that's starting to tune in. We thank you. And again, Mimi, this is unbelievable. There's gonna have to be a part 2, but you know one of the things she touched upon at the very end was the idea of health.
00:44:30.810 --> 00:44:33.590 Bruce Cramer: And so you do got to take care of yourself
00:44:33.740 --> 00:44:54.180 Bruce Cramer: physically as well as mentally, because a lot of our content deals with the mental side of things. But without your health you can't start. And then the other thing that she said is passion. Follow your passion. Stay healthy, and whatever you want in life will be delivered.
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.040 Bruce Cramer: That's what I'm taking away.
00:44:57.420 --> 00:44:59.359 Angie Snowball: I like it all right now. It says.
00:45:00.560 --> 00:45:07.930 nawtej dosanjh: I think it's something Mimi said. at the beginning Mimi does what she likes to do.
00:45:08.340 --> 00:45:17.009 nawtej dosanjh: and it takes off. So Mimi doesn't test whether this, which segment of the of the market is gonna like what she does.
00:45:17.250 --> 00:45:24.639 nawtej dosanjh: She just does what she likes. She follows what she wants to do, and there is a segment somewhere that that likes it. And
00:45:24.850 --> 00:45:33.940 nawtej dosanjh: there are a lot of management books that say the opposite. But I have always thought. I have always thought, do what you love doing.
00:45:34.740 --> 00:45:37.119 nawtej dosanjh: and you'll find a way to make something of it.
00:45:37.870 --> 00:45:40.370 nawtej dosanjh: Don't bother testing the market.
00:45:40.810 --> 00:45:51.890 nawtej dosanjh: Just do what you love doing, and you'll find you'll find a place for it. And I think when Mimi said that I just wanted to end the show, because that was the biggest insight
00:45:51.890 --> 00:45:52.694 nawtej dosanjh: drop
00:45:53.500 --> 00:46:06.669 nawtej dosanjh: so long. And I really appreciate that you you said that. Just do what you want. You did a game. You did a you started painting. You didn't think. I wonder if there's a segment in San Diego that are like this board game or this.
00:46:06.670 --> 00:46:07.100 Angie Snowball: Rocket.
00:46:07.100 --> 00:46:15.800 nawtej dosanjh: No, just do do the stuff you want to do, do the stuff you really love. So I'm rambling because I just found that soapy, fantastic.
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:39.289 Angie Snowball: No, this is why we keep you around because smart, and he just like nailed the thing, you know. Everybody else forgot it was like, Oh, my gosh, he's right. I have a lot of commission painting, and then I have to do something. They want certain colors if they want something, and most of them say we'll give you this much, but do the rest that you want yourself, because otherwise I can't paint that. I'm a lot more pressure when I'm doing.
00:46:39.290 --> 00:46:39.859 nawtej dosanjh: Oh, wow!
00:46:39.860 --> 00:47:05.159 Angie Snowball: Done with the Commission. I start throwing paint, but I even in that, even in that structure I still have to do the way I like it. If they don't like it, they don't have to take the painting because I can't. I don't know everybody's taste. That's why I just have to do what I love, and with everything. If I sell it great, if I don't, it's okay. It's nice. When I sell a painting, it's great, but it's not what I paid for. I can't think about that when I'm painting.
00:47:05.260 --> 00:47:07.470 Angie Snowball: So yeah, I think that's a.
00:47:07.470 --> 00:47:15.709 nawtej dosanjh: And can I say one more thing, Angie? Can I say one more thing, and and I love the way you say things with grace rather than arrogance.
00:47:15.850 --> 00:47:22.289 nawtej dosanjh: It's all very gracious, and there's not a hint of arrogance, and I love that. I really love that.
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.739 Bruce Cramer: As authentic as they come.
00:47:24.740 --> 00:47:27.619 nawtej dosanjh: Thank you. Thank you, Mimi, for being on the show. I really.
00:47:27.620 --> 00:47:35.780 Angie Snowball: Thank you so much. Yeah. And how about you? Do you have any parting comments, parting comments? Well, this was nice.
00:47:36.290 --> 00:48:01.120 Angie Snowball: I've been turning down interviews lately, because I just don't want to talk about food or anything else. But this is this is really nice. I never know what's going to come out of me, and you know, and it's it's it was very. I enjoyed it. So that's why we want you, because we just want to talk, just want to have conversations where everybody's experienced life so differently. It's just nice to be able to share, because you never know that one person
00:48:01.120 --> 00:48:06.360 Angie Snowball: might need to hear that one thing you can hear is great. Yeah.
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:12.700 nawtej dosanjh: But, Angie, Angie, stop, Angie, Angie, hold on! Hold on! Stop rambling and give us your key. Insight.
00:48:14.210 --> 00:48:16.484 Angie Snowball: Oh, I forget. What was the question.
00:48:17.623 --> 00:48:19.250 nawtej dosanjh: Put yourself.
00:48:19.250 --> 00:48:43.879 Angie Snowball: My for me. It's getting over the fear I feel like I don't want to say wasted, because every minute meant something and takes you where you are. Every part of your broken road gets you where you are. But I I was afraid when I didn't realize I was afraid so I think mental health, and like trusting yourself and feeling empowered, is the 1st step to any change you're going to make is
00:48:43.930 --> 00:48:51.680 Angie Snowball: change yourself, change your mindset, get over your fear, and then you can do anything. I think that's the 1st step.
00:48:53.110 --> 00:48:57.350 nawtej dosanjh: Okay, Angie, what's this game you've been talking about? Because I'm getting.
00:48:57.350 --> 00:48:59.190 Angie Snowball: Well, you guys know me get it.
00:48:59.190 --> 00:49:00.230 Angie Snowball: I love Gabe.
00:49:00.230 --> 00:49:01.609 nawtej dosanjh: And you've got a game.
00:49:01.820 --> 00:49:30.279 Angie Snowball: I know every everywhere we go like, Oh, God! Here comes Angie and her games. No, okay, I won't play a game, I'll make it, but I do think it'll be fun. The whole episode was about aging as an art. And one thing that I really I have pet peeves. When people age, right? They're like, Oh, gosh! This happened to me. I'm like you're 50. Get over it like, do something better. Don't complain about it so I would love to hear what everybody's pet peeve is, or or myth about getting older, that
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:33.810 Angie Snowball: as we get older, what do we want to tell? Young people don't do this.
00:49:35.870 --> 00:49:36.700 Angie Snowball: No contact.
00:49:36.700 --> 00:49:37.850 Bruce Cramer: Retire.
00:49:37.850 --> 00:49:40.790 nawtej dosanjh: Tell you. No, I've got oh, sorry! What did you say?
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:42.719 nawtej dosanjh: What did you say, Bruce?
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:44.240 Bruce Cramer: Don't retire.
00:49:44.240 --> 00:49:45.030 Angie Snowball: Retire.
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:46.679 nawtej dosanjh: Don't retire. I like that, too.
00:49:46.680 --> 00:49:47.130 Bruce Cramer: Period.
00:49:47.130 --> 00:49:48.539 nawtej dosanjh: That, too. Yeah.
00:49:48.690 --> 00:49:58.990 nawtej dosanjh: So mine is, I think, the same as Mimi's. Mimi just said her maybe just said her age. And so I go around. I've been saying that I'm 62 years ago
00:49:59.130 --> 00:50:05.270 nawtej dosanjh: and I wasn't 60. I've just been saying I'm 60 for the last 2 years. And suddenly I'm 60
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:11.860 nawtej dosanjh: and and you know, and now I'm gonna have to invent a new age. I'm going to have to start saying I'm 70 for the next 10 years.
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.299 Angie Snowball: I say 9, I say 90 now.
00:50:15.300 --> 00:50:18.719 nawtej dosanjh: 90. Yeah. Don't know about your age. Round it, up, round it up
00:50:19.350 --> 00:50:21.904 nawtej dosanjh: so much flattery. If you do that.
00:50:22.270 --> 00:50:26.979 Angie Snowball: It's really yeah, it's really good. Round up. Let's round up.
00:50:27.050 --> 00:50:52.930 Angie Snowball: I do like that, though, too, like aging wise. One thing I try to do is because people always complain about stuff. I like to look at the fun stuff like we were talking the other day when you're older, people don't care. So when I was young I used to have to try and sneak shots into the bar right now they're like, Oh, lady, go do whatever you want to do. I think it's awesome. You know what I mean like. There's so many fun things you can do, younger people, particularly women.
00:50:53.010 --> 00:50:53.520 Angie Snowball: I.
00:50:53.520 --> 00:50:53.940 nawtej dosanjh: No.
00:50:53.940 --> 00:51:07.929 Angie Snowball: I. When I was younger, I was very pretty. If you see old pictures of me dark hair, and I was so I never thought I was pretty. I never thought anything about being good looking or not good looking. I just never thought I was a pretty girl at all.
00:51:08.030 --> 00:51:15.690 Angie Snowball: I had dates. I went out, you know, even after I lost my husband and I was 29. I had dates, but I never thought I was pretty when I look back at that now
00:51:15.820 --> 00:51:35.090 Angie Snowball: I look at myself. Oh, my God! I was thin, and I was pretty, and it's like women pick on themselves all the time. They're getting all that face, stuff done, and hair and whatever trying to get themselves to look better. But if you look back at yourself, men and women both when you were younger 30 years ago, or whatever you look back and you go.
00:51:35.090 --> 00:52:02.879 Angie Snowball: hey? I look pretty good. So now I tell myself. I'm going to look at myself when I'm in my nineties, I'm going to say, oh, I look good in my eighties. That's what I think of all the time, because I go now I look in the mirror and says, good thing. My eyesight's not good because I can't see everything. But I go. Oh, I'm going to probably look back and think I look good now, but that's what that's really. When I look back. And I I just posted a picture when I was like 34, and one when I was 86, and I went. Oh, my God, I was really cute. I didn't know. So
00:52:03.100 --> 00:52:26.100 Angie Snowball: you've got to appreciate wherever you are like. Right now, I think, okay, I look, this is good. This is good. So I think that's definitely and like no work. She's never done anything like that crazy stuff right? Because it is about that. Appreciate what you look like now. I have wrinkles. I earned them, you know, I look great, too. Yeah, because.
00:52:26.100 --> 00:52:26.570 Bruce Cramer: I just.
00:52:28.290 --> 00:52:31.239 nawtej dosanjh: Bruce, I just want to say you look great. You look great. Bro.
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:39.749 Bruce Cramer: Oh, no, I was just gonna say I heard that possibly nude films are in the future. I'm I'm.
00:52:39.750 --> 00:52:46.870 Angie Snowball: Good. Yay, glad to hear that waiting senior nudity.
00:52:49.780 --> 00:52:50.650 Bruce Cramer: That was probably.
00:52:50.650 --> 00:53:12.429 Angie Snowball: Yeah, that's great. Oh, my gosh, thank you. Everybody for tuning in. I hope you had fun. Hope you took something away. You got ideas. You want to hear stuff drop us a line and you can check us out on Youtube, too. You know, if you like us.
00:53:12.650 --> 00:53:17.229 Bruce Cramer: And don't forget next this week, when shit hits the fan. What do you do.
00:53:17.230 --> 00:53:22.730 Angie Snowball: Oh, yeah, next week is when shit hits the fan. Good job. We'll see you next week. Thanks, guys. Bye.
00:53:22.730 --> 00:53:23.260 Bruce Cramer: Aye.
00:53:23.260 --> 00:53:24.180 Angie Snowball: Cheers.
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