In this episode, we will help you master time management with Covey’s Matrix, 7 smart time strategies, and a challenge to realign your schedule with what matters most. Plus, sip along with the perfect Manhattan cocktail.
In this episode of Serving Up Success with a Splash, Bruce Cramer (the Corporate Cockroach), Dr. Nawtej Dosanjh (the Strategy Doctor), and Angie Snowball (our Renaissance Woman) stir up a bold conversation on time management, because managing time is really about managing life. From Covey’s Time Matrix to seven smart strategies, they break down how to focus on what matters most. Plus, a classic Manhattan cocktail recipe to help you sip with intention.
Ingredients:
• 2 oz Rye whiskey (or Bourbon, if preferred)
• 1 oz Sweet vermouth
• 2 dashes Angostura bitters
• Optional: 1 dash orange bitters for a twist
Instructions:
1. Add whiskey, sweet vermouth, and bitters into a mixing glass with ice.
2. Stir (don’t shake!) until well chilled—about 30 seconds.
3. Strain into a chilled coupe or Nick & Nora glass.
4. Garnish with a Luxardo cherry (or any brandied cherry).
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In this episode, Bruce Cramer and Dr. Nawtej Dosanjh unpack the misconception that time management is about managing time, emphasizing instead that it's about managing focus, priorities, and energy. They introduce Stephen Covey’s Time Management Matrix, highlighting the importance of operating in the “gold zone”—tasks that are important but not urgent—where strategic planning, relationship building, and personal well-being thrive. Business leaders are encouraged to shift from reactive task execution to proactive priority setting, which not only boosts productivity and clarity but also enhances overall quality of work and life.
In this segment, Bruce Cramer and Dr. Nawtej Dosanjh introduce seven keys to mastering time management, emphasizing that effective time use stems from managing focus, priorities, and energy—not just the clock. They highlight personal lessons such as the importance of protecting your energy, setting boundaries, ruthless focus, and reviewing and reflecting—all crucial for avoiding burnout and aligning efforts with meaningful outcomes. Business leaders are encouraged to plan with purpose and automate or delegate low-value tasks, ensuring their energy is reserved for the work that drives the most impact.
In this third segment of Serving Up Success with a Splash, Bruce and Nawtej complete their list of the 7 keys to mastering time management:
They emphasize practical tools like scheduling automation (e.g. Calendly) and AI support (like ChatGPT) to offload repetitive tasks. Nawtej shares how he structures his day around deep work, wellness, and strategic planning—often blocking mornings for his highest-value thinking. When Angie joins from an airport with real-life chaos in tow, they pivot to address how to recover when plans get derailed—acknowledging that sometimes “life happens,” but other times, a breakdown may reveal gaps in boundaries or planning that need strengthening.
In this final segment of Serving Up Success with a Splash, the hosts wrap up their deep dive on mastering time management by reinforcing two key messages: don’t panic when life disrupts your plans, and reprioritize through the 4-quadrant framework. Angie shares how leaning on her team and revisiting the quadrants helped her navigate a chaotic week without guilt, affirming that rest and renewal—like her upcoming beach weekend—belong squarely in the “important but not urgent” gold zone. The episode concludes with a heartfelt exchange on where each host wants to spend more time—Angie on scalable impact through group coaching and online courses, and Bruce on meaningful time with his family—while issuing a challenge to the audience: audit your time, drop one task, delegate one, and intentionally move one task into the gold zone.
00:00:00.110 --> 00:00:12.670 Bruce Cramer: When I probably tell you that time management has nothing to do with managing time. You're probably thinking what the hell but it really doesn't. It's about managing your focus.
00:00:12.780 --> 00:00:33.039 Bruce Cramer: your priorities, and of course your energy. And we're going to dive deep into that. So you better understand what we mean by that. But before we do that, we have one of my favorites being formerly born and raised in Wisconsin, we have the classic, the Manhattan.
00:00:33.070 --> 00:00:54.490 Bruce Cramer: and you know. Basically, now, this Angie's gonna shoot me because she does this always very well. She is great. She's a mixologist, but nonetheless it's 2 ounces of whiskey or rye whiskey, that is, or a good Bourbon, as I'm drinking one ounce of sweet vermouth, 2 dashes
00:00:54.540 --> 00:01:15.830 Bruce Cramer: of bitters. Any type of bitters will work, and then, if you're from Wisconsin, you gotta add the brandied cherry and then dump a little bit of the cherry juice in, and that makes for a very bold, not too sweet, delicious drink so cheers everybody.
00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:17.140 nawtej dosanjh: Cheers, everybody.
00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:19.270 Bruce Cramer: So
00:01:19.460 --> 00:01:38.290 Bruce Cramer: again, as I. As I mentioned, we're going to talk 1st when we talk about time management. So one of the things I always like to bring up is that you know we all have 24 h. Those that are overwhelmed and those that are very effective at managing time
00:01:38.400 --> 00:02:03.660 Bruce Cramer: realize it's all about clarity. So when I talked about those priorities, really, what I'm talking about is get clarity around the activities that you're involved with. And there's a gentleman, an expert in the industry referred to as Stephen Covey wrote this very popular book called The 7 Habits of highly effective People.
00:02:04.600 --> 00:02:26.699 Bruce Cramer: and one of the things that Stephen Covey talks about is this time management matrix. So bear with me for a second. I'm going to bring this up. I'm going to share my screen, so you can see it because there is a little bit of content, and whenever we have a little bit of content I like to share it so we can all see it.
00:02:26.900 --> 00:02:35.139 Bruce Cramer: And so let me take a look here. Okay. So, Natesh, can you see this.
00:02:35.430 --> 00:02:36.599 nawtej dosanjh: I can see it.
00:02:37.100 --> 00:03:05.510 Bruce Cramer: All right. So a couple of things. So he's talking about when you take a look at everything that's demanding time from you. There's basically 4 quadrants to kind of place what it is you're being asked to do or what it is you want to do or need to do. And there's 4 quadrants. The 1st one, of course, is what he refers to the task or activities that are urgent, important.
00:03:05.620 --> 00:03:13.070 Bruce Cramer: and to be honest, these are things like, there's a crisis, some kind of emergency, and you need to handle it
00:03:13.250 --> 00:03:31.210 Bruce Cramer: personally, you really don't have much of a choice. So you know what that's usually at the top of the list. Now you do want to as best you can mitigate these types of occurrences, but there's only so much a person could do. Life happens while you plan.
00:03:31.380 --> 00:03:45.299 Bruce Cramer: But the second bucket and this is referred to as the gold zone. This is where you want to live, is the activities that are not urgent. But they're important. So this has to do with
00:03:45.630 --> 00:04:06.859 Bruce Cramer: planning relationships, and that, you know, covers family, professional, etc. exercise. You know those are all things that will make you better, and will help you better plan for the future. And so this is where you want to spend the bulk of your time.
00:04:06.860 --> 00:04:17.890 Bruce Cramer: Then there's this 3rd category called urgent, but not important. These are the interruptions, the unnecessary meetings, etc, etc. This is where
00:04:18.089 --> 00:04:25.179 Bruce Cramer: you want to take some time to figure out is some of this stuff that's coming to me in this bucket? Can I delegate.
00:04:25.320 --> 00:04:49.480 Bruce Cramer: or you know, what do I really have to show up to this meeting? Because, to be quite frankly, I'm not a contributor, and I'm not getting anything that's a value. And so you want to try to streamline. And then there's that 4th bucket called Not Urgent and not important. You just want to eliminate this, and a true story. I am not on Facebook.
00:04:49.560 --> 00:05:19.510 Bruce Cramer: And and the reason for that is, I've really struggled. When I had all of these social media, all of this access to various social media channels. I became obsessed with scrolling through this stuff, and no matter how much I told myself, this is just a big waste of time. It is not contributing to my life for the good at all. And so what I did is I just I just eliminated. It's not worth
00:05:19.520 --> 00:05:24.730 Bruce Cramer: the wasted time. But that's a little bit of the overview.
00:05:24.870 --> 00:05:27.939 Bruce Cramer: Mattesh. How do? How do? How do you think about this?
00:05:29.880 --> 00:05:36.899 nawtej dosanjh: I think this is a great matrix, by the way, and I gotta say, for years I thought I was being productive, Bruce.
00:05:37.923 --> 00:05:40.990 nawtej dosanjh: But really I was in.
00:05:41.110 --> 00:05:45.000 nawtej dosanjh: I'm spending a lot of my time. I mean, we're going back a decade.
00:05:45.574 --> 00:05:50.309 nawtej dosanjh: I'm spending a lot of my time in the important, urgent and important.
00:05:51.650 --> 00:06:03.029 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah. And I think I falsely identified, wrongly identified, inaccurately identified things that were important and they weren't.
00:06:03.440 --> 00:06:04.809 nawtej dosanjh: They weren't important.
00:06:04.970 --> 00:06:06.399 nawtej dosanjh: Same with urgent
00:06:07.057 --> 00:06:29.995 nawtej dosanjh: they weren't. They weren't urgent. But you, you know, you know what it's like, right? You get into this operational mindset. And you think, Oh, wow, I can. I can. I can do tasks I can. I can get. I can get stuff done. I can get through a couple of 100 emails a day, and so you get into that mindset. But it really it wasn't
00:06:31.010 --> 00:06:34.250 nawtej dosanjh: good good for you at all. I was getting through it.
00:06:34.520 --> 00:06:47.220 nawtej dosanjh: but now I find myself I have. I am more or less always in the not urgent, the gold zone, as you put it. I'm almost always in the not urgent.
00:06:47.370 --> 00:06:49.140 nawtej dosanjh: but important.
00:06:49.530 --> 00:06:51.590 nawtej dosanjh: And and I've got to say
00:06:53.250 --> 00:06:58.010 nawtej dosanjh: I don't want to use the word happy because I because I think it it. That's not a good enough word.
00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:04.900 nawtej dosanjh: I'm just calmer, more relaxed, getting more done.
00:07:05.814 --> 00:07:08.350 nawtej dosanjh: Producing good quality work.
00:07:08.750 --> 00:07:21.549 nawtej dosanjh: and it really does make a difference. I don't think I was looking at this matrix when I made the change, but I just knew that I had to make the change. I don't know if you had the same experience in your life at all.
00:07:22.690 --> 00:07:51.020 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, you know. And I think well said, by the way, you know. And again, when I mentioned at the very top of this show is that you know it's not about managing your time. It's about focus priorities and energy. This is the part about the focus and priorities. And one of his famous quotes, Stephen Covey was, the key is not to prioritize. What's on your schedule?
00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.960 Bruce Cramer: The key is to schedule your priorities.
00:07:55.340 --> 00:08:06.910 Bruce Cramer: You know. There's a big misnomer out there, and a lot of things. And Natez, you can vouch for that as coaches. We talk a lot about how, quite frankly, you control 80% of your life.
00:08:07.060 --> 00:08:26.450 Bruce Cramer: 20% things happen while you plan. But 80% is in your control. And this is a big 1st start is, take a look at your time. Where are you spending it? Make damn sure you're in that goal zone, because if you do that your family benefits, your coworkers benefit and
00:08:26.830 --> 00:08:31.879 Bruce Cramer: live a much life. You know a much healthier lifestyle.
00:08:32.380 --> 00:08:40.899 nawtej dosanjh: One thing that just occurred. Yeah, one thing that's just occurred to me before we go to break brew, Bruce, is that the words proactive and reactive.
00:08:41.644 --> 00:08:47.359 nawtej dosanjh: I'm no longer reactive, you know. I've made that shift from good.
00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:47.850 Bruce Cramer: For you.
00:08:47.850 --> 00:09:05.300 nawtej dosanjh: From one to through one and 3 to quadrant the gold zone. But I've got to say the process to that. I know we're going to talk about a little later. The process to that wasn't easy. It took took some years of understanding, self-reflection, and becoming
00:09:05.790 --> 00:09:11.059 nawtej dosanjh: intentionally proactive and intentionally less reactive.
00:09:11.780 --> 00:09:35.289 Bruce Cramer: Yeah. And I got to say, this is still a challenge for me, you know. So this is something that I have to stay conscious of. And you know, on a weekly basis, I plan for the following week, and then on a daily. When I do my check and adjust. To be honest. These 4 quadrants are circling in my mind. So this is never a 1 and done. It's how
00:09:35.650 --> 00:09:36.680 Bruce Cramer: leverage this as.
00:09:36.680 --> 00:09:38.460 nawtej dosanjh: It's a it's a journey right. It's a journey.
00:09:38.460 --> 00:09:43.740 Bruce Cramer: Yup to improve. So with that Jesse, take us to break.
00:11:30.410 --> 00:11:51.150 Bruce Cramer: Welcome back. I hope you're all here. And, by the way, everybody, thank you so much for joining. We've been pleasantly, pleasantly surprised by the number of people that are starting to follow us and view. And again, we cannot thank you enough, Natez, any comments on that. The Doc.
00:11:51.843 --> 00:12:19.499 nawtej dosanjh: I I think you said it. Listen, I I'm really pleasantly surprised that we have. We have people and the same people following us, and it's growing every week. So really, really grateful. And anything, any feedback, any comments you've got that you will, any topics you want to hear about? Any. You know the way we, the way we work this, the way we do this, the way we configure this, please. We, you know we're we're open to feedback always.
00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:46.319 Bruce Cramer: And again, always a shout out to Jesse, who takes great care of our production and engineering as always, she's teaching us, yet cheers, cheers everybody, all right. So as promised. Now we opened up in that 1st segment, saying again, managing time isn't about managing time. It's about your priorities, your focus and your energy. So now we're about to do a little bit deeper dive.
00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:53.049 Bruce Cramer: and I don't care if you're running a business or running a household, or in some cases many people do both.
00:12:53.390 --> 00:13:06.840 Bruce Cramer: So this is really a challenge we're going to share with you 7 keys to managing, mastering time management, 7 keys to mastering time management.
00:13:07.350 --> 00:13:21.030 Bruce Cramer: And you know what, Natez, you always put me on the seat, and Angie isn't here today. So so what what's 1 of your favorites of these powerful keys to mastering time, managed. What's 1 of your favorites.
00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:28.580 nawtej dosanjh: Oh, okay, it's gonna be hard for me to pick one favorite.
00:13:29.070 --> 00:13:38.079 nawtej dosanjh: Okay, I'm gonna pick 2. Here's what I'll do. I'll pick 2 1 where I'm I've I've always been pretty good at it.
00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:48.400 nawtej dosanjh: and 2 where I had to learn to become good at it. Okay, so I'll pick the I'll pick the where I had to learn. Protect your energy
00:13:48.690 --> 00:13:52.450 nawtej dosanjh: protection. It it makes. It makes a huge difference.
00:13:52.999 --> 00:14:06.589 nawtej dosanjh: I was working long hours. I was doing literally not 7 days a week, but the weekends. I was still doing stuff. I was still responding to stuff, still planning stuff, still doing stuff.
00:14:06.630 --> 00:14:26.579 nawtej dosanjh: and I don't do that anymore. It leads to stress. It leads to bad health. It leads to relationship damage. So protecting your energy for me is number one. Because.
00:14:26.710 --> 00:14:41.920 nawtej dosanjh: as I said in the previous segment, made that change. It took some years to do it, but made that change, and you know I can feel the benefits on a daily basis. Don't have that same stress.
00:14:43.300 --> 00:14:55.760 nawtej dosanjh: Look, I don't. You know I don't have to. I'm not in a operational job that I was in years ago. But anyway, that's that's that's the one I learned. The one I was, I think, always pretty good at
00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.799 nawtej dosanjh: is focusing ruthlessly.
00:14:59.900 --> 00:15:08.829 nawtej dosanjh: Always pretty good at doing that. If there's a car horn going on in the back car, alarm going on in the background, or a house burglar alarm going in the background. I'm not hearing it.
00:15:09.550 --> 00:15:10.730 nawtej dosanjh: I don't hear him.
00:15:11.170 --> 00:15:26.779 nawtej dosanjh: If there's a baby crying on a plane, I'm not hearing it. I just don't hear it. I'm just focusing on what I'm doing. And I, that's not quite true. The mobile phone was a distraction.
00:15:27.181 --> 00:15:42.769 nawtej dosanjh: But I learned to control that, too. But, generally speaking, when I had to focus when I had to do a focus focus on work. I I've always been pretty good at that, with the tiny exception, the mobile phone. I had to learn to switch that off.
00:15:43.060 --> 00:15:50.170 nawtej dosanjh: How about you? You tell. Yeah. I tell you what, you put me on the spot you give me. You give me your one you were good at, and one you were to learn.
00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:56.489 Bruce Cramer: Oh, God! Well, so, 1st of all, your focus ruthlessly, I got
00:15:56.560 --> 00:16:18.649 Bruce Cramer: the fact that Angie isn't here is good because she she would pile on this. But you know I I've never been good at multitasking, never, I mean, you know, and and to be honest, based on my experiences, and of all the women and men that I have worked with lived with whatever
00:16:18.710 --> 00:16:31.030 Bruce Cramer: women seem to be pretty damn good at multitasking, so I'm glad I don't want her head to inflate. However, it was great when there was a study released. That that's a myth
00:16:31.260 --> 00:16:52.299 Bruce Cramer: that in reality nobody is good at multi. Well, I was like woo. So now, when Noel, who's my better half, says to me, God, you're like a 1, you know. You're one trick pony at a time, you know, you only do one thing I'm going. That's because it's the most effective.
00:16:52.300 --> 00:17:03.870 Bruce Cramer: But that's the other thing is quit the idea that you can multitask. You are suboptimizing your time, as well as probably the outcome of your performance.
00:17:04.060 --> 00:17:08.049 Bruce Cramer: So stop it, all right. So you asked me a question.
00:17:08.390 --> 00:17:15.539 Bruce Cramer: Oh, I think my favorite, and I'm good at this. Maybe I err too much is setting boundaries.
00:17:15.710 --> 00:17:19.020 Bruce Cramer: I have no problem saying, No.
00:17:19.270 --> 00:17:23.119 Bruce Cramer: I just don't. I remember once.
00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:32.160 Bruce Cramer: and I'm not going to name names or the organization. But a true story was, I was invited into a CIO staff meeting
00:17:32.520 --> 00:17:39.860 Bruce Cramer: and the reality. My manager, my boss. My supervisor, was already in the meeting.
00:17:39.980 --> 00:17:47.910 Bruce Cramer: and I remember thinking was that the best use of my time? There's already my boss is already there.
00:17:48.040 --> 00:18:00.490 Bruce Cramer: So, and you know and he he was outstanding. So communication was frequent and meaningful and relevant. And so I'm like that. I'm just another cheek in the seat wasting time.
00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:05.239 Bruce Cramer: Well, it's kind of funny, because the CEO was a great guy, and he's like
00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:25.379 Bruce Cramer: I've never had somebody refuse to come to my staff meetings. But I did over time, because typically I was very busy. The organization always gave me great great assignments, challenges. I was always in great positions, and I learned very early on. Say no.
00:18:25.430 --> 00:18:51.499 Bruce Cramer: say no, unless you're a value, add say no. And, by the way, I don't want to overstate that sometime you might be in a meeting. And even though you feel like you're not contributing just the fact that you're there, people need you there, just in case something comes up, they view you as the expert and somebody that can validate and say, Yeah, that makes sense. So sometimes that is value to sit and listen
00:18:51.930 --> 00:19:00.629 Bruce Cramer: and be there as a proxy when needed. But but really, really learn, you know, I tell people protect your time like you protect your money.
00:19:01.580 --> 00:19:24.390 Bruce Cramer: I mean, you really have. And and there's experts in the field that say, people that are really good at time manage. Yes, is a strategic investment. So when you say, yes, it's an investment you're making. So if you believe you're doing something that truly is from an investment standpoint is meaningless to you. You probably don't need to do it
00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:26.100 Bruce Cramer: all right, and I do that.
00:19:26.100 --> 00:19:35.489 nawtej dosanjh: I'm gonna stop you there, I can vouch for you. You do have good boundaries, but what's what's the thing you've you've had to learn which of the 70.
00:19:35.490 --> 00:19:44.869 Bruce Cramer: God, God! Let's see here. Well, many of them. One of the things
00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:52.480 Bruce Cramer: that I would say, probably more so than anything is the review and reflect.
00:19:53.160 --> 00:20:08.640 Bruce Cramer: And so it is now true that you know, and when I work with clients I can't stress this enough, and, in fact, all of my weekly sessions include an opening where people share their wins.
00:20:09.370 --> 00:20:16.690 Bruce Cramer: What didn't they complete that they wanted to complete? And what are they focused on in the coming weeks.
00:20:17.370 --> 00:20:18.400 Bruce Cramer: and
00:20:18.780 --> 00:20:30.450 Bruce Cramer: surprisingly, people, you know, are very humble. They don't take credit for all the good they do. So those wins end up being a really, really set the tone for the rest of the meeting, because, even though they'll say.
00:20:30.450 --> 00:20:40.799 nawtej dosanjh: I've got to say, Bruce, I've got to say I don't think you're that weak at that. I think you're a pretty good reviewer, reflector because you you're a good learner.
00:20:41.670 --> 00:20:54.379 Bruce Cramer: Well, you know. So what I've learned to do now is so I set up just like, you know. I expect my clients on a weekly basis. I go through the same exercise. But I also journal on a daily basis.
00:20:54.610 --> 00:20:58.599 Bruce Cramer: And I journal primarily for making sure
00:20:58.830 --> 00:21:18.629 Bruce Cramer: I'm working on the right stuff that I'm focused, and guess what? I'm protecting my energy, that I am getting the necessary risk and rest and exercise. And so I actually, I'm journaling. Do you believe that I never thought I would do that? And I start off by what am I grateful for?
00:21:18.630 --> 00:21:19.150 nawtej dosanjh: Pardon me.
00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:25.180 Bruce Cramer: But then, what do I got to do that day? To to improve as well.
00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:26.520 nawtej dosanjh: So
00:21:26.520 --> 00:21:38.869 nawtej dosanjh: covered 4 of them. What have we covered? We've called covered setting boundaries, focusing ruthlessly, protecting your energy review and reflect. Okay, 3 more to go.
00:21:42.850 --> 00:21:43.250 Bruce Cramer: So.
00:21:43.250 --> 00:21:45.869 nawtej dosanjh: I tell you what I tell you.
00:21:45.870 --> 00:21:46.490 Bruce Cramer: One.
00:21:46.860 --> 00:21:52.789 nawtej dosanjh: No, but I'm gonna pick one. But I'm gonna talk about you. But because I think
00:21:53.250 --> 00:21:56.670 nawtej dosanjh: another thing you're really good at is plan with purpose.
00:21:58.520 --> 00:22:06.750 nawtej dosanjh: I've seen you plan you've I mean, you've just talked about it now. But I've seen you organize
00:22:06.870 --> 00:22:18.500 nawtej dosanjh: things methodically. Even personal things, you know an outing that we have. I've I've really seen you do that so well, you are. You are brilliant at that.
00:22:18.900 --> 00:22:22.229 nawtej dosanjh: I'm gonna pick another one. Now, which is basically
00:22:22.710 --> 00:22:25.410 nawtej dosanjh: it's called automate and and delegate
00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:37.380 nawtej dosanjh: and that's essentially ties in with protecting your energy. But basically save your time for the high value work.
00:22:38.430 --> 00:22:45.029 nawtej dosanjh: delegate the stuff that you don't need to do or delegate it to technology or people either way.
00:22:46.340 --> 00:22:54.330 Bruce Cramer: You know, I'm gonna comment on that. But we're gonna 1st go to break because we're being flagged, and then we'll.
00:22:54.330 --> 00:22:58.220 nawtej dosanjh: There's 1 more to go. Okay, we gotta go to break, and then you can finish.
00:22:58.220 --> 00:22:58.630 Bruce Cramer: Yeah.
00:22:58.630 --> 00:22:59.199 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah, right.
00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:01.989 Bruce Cramer: All right, Jesse, take us away.
00:24:36.320 --> 00:24:41.740 Bruce Cramer: Welcome back so hopefully, you're all still with us.
00:24:41.920 --> 00:25:09.020 Bruce Cramer: And so right now we're going through the 7 keys to master Time management and the ones that we've covered so far plan with purpose. And I'm going to comment more about that. That was one Natesh spoke about me. But, ditto, Babe, I'm coming back to you. So one was plan with purpose. Another one was set boundaries. It's okay to say, no
00:25:09.050 --> 00:25:12.020 Bruce Cramer: focus, ruthless, ruthlessly.
00:25:12.766 --> 00:25:20.680 Bruce Cramer: Don't let anything be a distraction. Not even that damn mobile phone and forget about the myth of multitasking.
00:25:21.080 --> 00:25:25.859 Bruce Cramer: The other was review and reflect.
00:25:26.870 --> 00:25:42.880 Bruce Cramer: and then protect your energy. Make sure there's adequate time for rest, exercise, fun, family, etc. Now, did I cover those correct? 1st of all, Natesh, I didn't lose count somewhere, did I?
00:25:43.140 --> 00:25:46.589 nawtej dosanjh: No, but we. I was just talking about the automate and delegate.
00:25:46.590 --> 00:25:47.300 Bruce Cramer: Yes.
00:25:47.606 --> 00:25:50.930 nawtej dosanjh: To have a comment on that before we hit the last one.
00:25:51.688 --> 00:26:09.440 Bruce Cramer: So so one of the other things I wanted to share before I comment about plan with purpose. But again, and this kind of comes with, you know, like, when you talk about automate and delegate one of the things I wanted to add. You know, there's now programs. So when you work.
00:26:09.600 --> 00:26:20.047 Bruce Cramer: you know, as a small business owner, this is typically a challenge, for you know, like lawyers, doctors, coaches, etc.
00:26:20.570 --> 00:26:47.700 Bruce Cramer: where a lot of what you do. You're on your own. You got all kinds of cool products now, like calendly, and stuff where all of your calendar, scheduling and stuff can really be automated. And so you always want to look for the latest and greatest, not to mention things like Chat Gpt and all of the AI apps that are out there, automate some of the tasks, and even some of the thinking.
00:26:47.900 --> 00:27:11.080 Bruce Cramer: and you want to take advantage of that. But let's get back to purpose. You know I was kind of shocked that Natesh thinks that of me. I am flattered, but there is nobody that that reeks of purpose more than the doctor when I 1st met him, and we were going through some sessions together.
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:19.550 Bruce Cramer: He never spoke without purpose. If he doesn't have his purpose clearly defined
00:27:19.870 --> 00:27:26.119 Bruce Cramer: around the activities or things he's pursuing from a business his university.
00:27:26.280 --> 00:27:32.589 Bruce Cramer: Oh, my God! The purpose is to bring AI to everyone
00:27:33.250 --> 00:27:53.149 Bruce Cramer: at an Mba level cost effectively, so everybody can take advantage of that specifically, in the care in the healthcare field. I mean, he's always thinking of the greater good. What's the purpose behind this. So, Natej, well, I'm flattered.
00:27:53.150 --> 00:27:54.750 nawtej dosanjh: Nobody lives, that.
00:27:54.750 --> 00:27:58.790 Bruce Cramer: Better than you. It's a value. Brother cheers.
00:27:59.293 --> 00:27:59.760 nawtej dosanjh: Thank you!
00:27:59.760 --> 00:28:08.850 Bruce Cramer: It's a part of your big reason. You're successful. Who? Who doesn't want to play with you? Well, that didn't sound, who doesn't want to work with you.
00:28:08.850 --> 00:28:15.630 Bruce Cramer: And so, yeah, oh, God, but anyways, and so
00:28:16.550 --> 00:28:19.540 Bruce Cramer: I'm going to take the final one because we opened up with it.
00:28:19.630 --> 00:28:49.149 Bruce Cramer: The the final was, Clarify your priorities. And again we gave you one of the best tools in the businesses, and I know we we picked on each other a couple episodes. When we talk about the Swot analysis. We also did the star for selling yourself some of these tools that have been around for a few decades, but I'm telling you I don't care what kind of speak consultants put behind it. It's the same damn thing that
00:28:49.260 --> 00:28:53.559 Bruce Cramer: 4 quadrants is magic in your life.
00:28:53.710 --> 00:28:54.430 Bruce Cramer: So.
00:28:54.430 --> 00:28:55.350 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah, it really is.
00:28:55.350 --> 00:28:55.670 Bruce Cramer: That
00:28:56.610 --> 00:29:07.970 Bruce Cramer: clarify. If everything's a priority, then nothing is ever going to get done. Period. So always think of terms. What's making you better? What's going to move you forward.
00:29:08.100 --> 00:29:18.080 Bruce Cramer: Those become truly your priorities. So I'm not going to beat that to death anymore. So we're going to move on. So a question I have for you, Natesh.
00:29:18.350 --> 00:29:18.940 nawtej dosanjh: Yep.
00:29:18.940 --> 00:29:23.830 Bruce Cramer: And you've kind of answered this, but I want to do this more directly.
00:29:25.030 --> 00:29:29.750 Bruce Cramer: Where do you spend the bulk of your time and give some some examples.
00:29:34.520 --> 00:29:42.600 nawtej dosanjh: Oh, my God, what a great question! What a great question! And you've stumped me a little bit! Where do I spend the bulk of my time.
00:29:43.550 --> 00:29:51.069 nawtej dosanjh: I have more than one answer. I don't have one answer. I spend the bulk of my time on the following types of activities.
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.989 nawtej dosanjh: the super urgent. That need to be done.
00:29:55.910 --> 00:29:58.439 nawtej dosanjh: but that is not. Every day
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:04.929 nawtej dosanjh: I spend my time on dealing with my physical and mental well-being.
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:08.160 nawtej dosanjh: I spend a couple of hours a day on that.
00:30:08.590 --> 00:30:13.680 nawtej dosanjh: So I exercise, and I I review and reflect.
00:30:13.860 --> 00:30:17.889 nawtej dosanjh: And then I do strategic work
00:30:18.010 --> 00:30:21.329 nawtej dosanjh: on how I'm going to get closer to my mountain.
00:30:21.870 --> 00:30:27.219 nawtej dosanjh: What are the steps I'm going to take to move closer to where I want to be.
00:30:27.740 --> 00:30:30.369 nawtej dosanjh: So I do deep thinking work.
00:30:30.790 --> 00:30:42.387 nawtej dosanjh: and I block out I block out time to do that where the phone is off. I'm not. But I'm not looking at emails. I'm not. I'm not looking
00:30:43.355 --> 00:30:51.029 nawtej dosanjh: at the phone, and typically, typically, this is in the morning, because this in this is when I'm most productive.
00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:56.000 nawtej dosanjh: So I won't do calls and emails typically until the afternoon.
00:30:57.030 --> 00:30:59.299 nawtej dosanjh: I'll keep my I'll I'll
00:31:00.017 --> 00:31:12.810 nawtej dosanjh: do this planning work, whether it's for for what I'm writing, whether it's what I'm for the university, or, you know, serving up success. The stuff that you and I are involved in.
00:31:13.010 --> 00:31:18.950 nawtej dosanjh: I do deep, deep planning, reflective work for those things.
00:31:21.340 --> 00:31:22.180 Bruce Cramer: No.
00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:22.750 nawtej dosanjh: Oh, my! Gosh!
00:31:22.750 --> 00:31:30.800 Bruce Cramer: Oh, my God! There's a sighting! There's the Renaissance woman, Angie Snowball.
00:31:31.380 --> 00:31:40.520 nawtej dosanjh: Thank God, you came Angie, because I was just rambling on about, and I was just rambling on and on. Thank God you came. You saved you saved me.
00:31:40.520 --> 00:31:41.780 Bruce Cramer: No, no, no.
00:31:41.780 --> 00:31:42.240 Angie: Bye.
00:31:42.240 --> 00:32:00.470 Bruce Cramer: Listen. So you know, I asked Natej, because we're like in our 3rd segment here, and of course we make this shit up as we go. But but I were, you know. I asked him, where do you spend your time? And I want the audience to know this guy just released an incredible novel.
00:32:00.780 --> 00:32:13.010 Bruce Cramer: Do you have it? I don't. I have it on Kindle, so I can't show it. But yeah, you know, he just wrote an incredible novel. He's got another book coming out on AI in a couple of months.
00:32:13.130 --> 00:32:18.710 Bruce Cramer: He's a professor, teacher owns co-owns a university.
00:32:19.250 --> 00:32:30.819 Bruce Cramer: and he's part of this podcast serving up success with a splash. He can, you know he consults and coaches many people in business, in academia.
00:32:32.610 --> 00:32:34.460 Bruce Cramer: I don't know how he does it. Well.
00:32:34.460 --> 00:32:37.839 nawtej dosanjh: I'm gonna switch my camera in a minute because it's.
00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:38.590 Bruce Cramer: Driving.
00:32:38.590 --> 00:32:40.630 nawtej dosanjh: My head is getting too big.
00:32:40.630 --> 00:32:54.200 Bruce Cramer: But he's describing to you how he does it, and it represents the quadrants getting clear as to where you want to spend your time, and then those 7 keys we just covered, I mean, he's brilliant.
00:32:55.340 --> 00:32:57.079 Bruce Cramer: No, no.
00:32:57.080 --> 00:33:03.529 nawtej dosanjh: I need a second camera. I need a second camera of my head is beginning to explode beyond the on this room. I'm afraid.
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:05.220 Bruce Cramer: And he flies in.
00:33:05.220 --> 00:33:05.970 nawtej dosanjh: At the same time.
00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:07.600 Bruce Cramer: Dinner any flight.
00:33:08.110 --> 00:33:14.569 Bruce Cramer: Dinner with us from the Uk. Comes into the Us. Periodically, and we all go out and have a good time.
00:33:14.760 --> 00:33:15.315 Angie: So
00:33:15.870 --> 00:33:20.439 Angie: if we go to Applebee's, he's like, Yeah, I'll meet you in Tampa. We'll just have dinner. It's fine.
00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:21.660 Bruce Cramer: Yeah.
00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:23.340 nawtej dosanjh: I know what Applebee's is.
00:33:25.850 --> 00:33:34.319 Bruce Cramer: So so, angie you you I don't want to put you too much on the spot. But where do you spend your time?
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:42.327 Angie: Well, I obviously have a time management issue. As I'm sitting here at the airport and not on the project.
00:33:44.100 --> 00:33:45.590 Angie: I think, what is that.
00:33:46.300 --> 00:33:46.790 Angie: Okay.
00:33:46.970 --> 00:34:15.290 Angie: I think that most of my time I spend. So I, this is a question more than an answer. When I read through all the stuff we're going to talk about right, the quadrants and all that stuff. I thought, now I know that right. I I've been coached on this. I know this. I try to do this, but there are always things that all of a sudden. What what the hell do I do with this? Right like this week has been nuts like. If I began to tell you what I did this week, you'd probably
00:34:15.389 --> 00:34:20.096 Angie: so all the time I had scheduled for those quadrants it was no longer there.
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:27.050 Angie: The question is more like, Okay, I got, I got it. I get the quadrants. I got the 7 things. I planned it.
00:34:27.210 --> 00:34:49.650 Angie: and then life happens because life happens. What do we do then? What do you guys suggest to help us get back on track? When you suddenly lost 20 h of your week. And everything that was in Quadrant. One is still in Quadrant one the next week. How do you? How do you manage that? I know one thing I do, especially in business with my clients. That's where I spend most of my time. I'm just very honest. I'm like, Hey, guys.
00:34:50.090 --> 00:35:11.549 Angie: stuff happens, life happens, feel free to leave. I'll do whatever I can for you. But this is where I am. And I don't like giving that answer, but it it is what it is. So I'm actually looking for advice from 2 of the smartest people I've ever met in my life to tell me how you manage this when you're suddenly in an airport a day late. Dollar, short type of stuff. What do you guys say.
00:35:13.780 --> 00:35:15.819 nawtej dosanjh: Do you want to take this first, st Bruce, or shall I.
00:35:16.864 --> 00:35:19.119 Bruce Cramer: You go first.st Okay.
00:35:19.120 --> 00:35:21.239 nawtej dosanjh: You know, Angie, I've got 2 answers.
00:35:21.240 --> 00:35:23.490 Bruce Cramer: Pop in like this and ask the hard question.
00:35:23.490 --> 00:35:41.079 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah, and you're in. You're in a lot of trouble I just want. I just wanna say, Angie, you're gonna be in a lot of trouble for popping in and just asking questions like this. So, but I have 2. I have 2 answers for you which may not be great, but but I have 2 answers. One is stuff happens.
00:35:41.240 --> 00:35:55.289 nawtej dosanjh: and it doesn't matter how well you plan and how coordinated you are and how you've arranged and configured your life stuff happens. And we just we just take that in our stride.
00:35:56.635 --> 00:36:09.000 nawtej dosanjh: And we and and authentically and honestly talk to, you know people, if you've let them down and as you, as you said you do, but I think I have a second answer as well, which is
00:36:09.470 --> 00:36:11.110 nawtej dosanjh: stuff happens.
00:36:11.990 --> 00:36:35.179 nawtej dosanjh: But did it really just happen, or was there an underlying weakness in one of the 7 keys that Bruce and I have been talking about? Was there an underlying weakness in I don't know. Reviewing and reflecting. Was there an underlying weakness in setting boundaries? Did you set enough boundaries in the month 2 months before?
00:36:35.682 --> 00:36:44.949 nawtej dosanjh: Was there was there. Did you clarify enough? Was there was there underlying weakness? Because if I gotta say if stuff is happening
00:36:45.240 --> 00:36:48.089 nawtej dosanjh: too often, stuff is not happening.
00:36:48.560 --> 00:36:53.720 nawtej dosanjh: It's a weakness in one or more of the 7 key time management.
00:36:55.420 --> 00:36:56.060 Bruce Cramer: Meetings.
00:36:56.060 --> 00:37:01.240 Angie: Yeah, I think I think that's good. So I 1st of all, can you hear me? I don't know.
00:37:01.240 --> 00:37:01.630 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah, yeah.
00:37:01.630 --> 00:37:05.460 Bruce Cramer: Yup! Yup! You're breaking up a little bit, but not bad. We can hear you.
00:37:06.030 --> 00:37:21.670 Angie: Okay, so I won't talk much. So 1st of all, I definitely have a boundary problem. But that is part of I think part of an eye. Personality, too, like Fomo is a real thing. It's a disease for for people like me that have that eye personality. So I definitely have that
00:37:22.190 --> 00:37:40.910 Angie: The 2, like some of this, was like health related, you know, Jack's dad's out of the hospital, and all of a sudden it deteriorated quickly. And and we've got all this stuff on our plate. That was not in the plan, right? And you really can't plan your life around things that we think might happen. And I think this happens to everybody right like there's gonna be
00:37:41.020 --> 00:37:42.700 Angie: stuff that
00:37:42.940 --> 00:38:03.290 Angie: you know you just can't. You can't plan for it. And I think that the boundary is probably the 1st answer. There's time. So you just gotta say no and I'm not good at that. So maybe after break we can talk about more about how to set those boundaries, to say No, but I think that was very good feedback, and then also to hear what Bruce has to say.
00:38:03.410 --> 00:38:09.920 Bruce Cramer: Well, when we come back I'm going to speak first, st because I have the answer for you. I do.
00:38:10.060 --> 00:38:13.999 Bruce Cramer: because by let's but, Jesse take us to break.
00:38:14.270 --> 00:38:15.990 nawtej dosanjh: My wife to come back.
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.817 Bruce Cramer: Oh, my God! I oh, there she is!
00:40:08.390 --> 00:40:11.840 Bruce Cramer: So so here's the thing. Don't panic
00:40:12.250 --> 00:40:24.570 Bruce Cramer: now, Natesh, sound advice. You always want to take a look at, how are you doing? According to the 7 keys to mastering time management? Because he's right invariably.
00:40:24.950 --> 00:40:26.290 Bruce Cramer: But here's the thing.
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:33.260 Bruce Cramer: Don't panic. What you do is you go back through the 4 quadrants? Now you have the daunting task of going.
00:40:33.620 --> 00:40:41.740 Bruce Cramer: What's the what's an absolute crisis? I can't turn my back on you reprioritize.
00:40:41.980 --> 00:40:49.689 Bruce Cramer: that's all you can do. You take a deep breath, make damn sure you don't lose sleep over it. Protect that energy.
00:40:49.820 --> 00:41:02.490 Bruce Cramer: but just walk back through the 4 quadrants. You may have to now take 2 to 3 spins to get things off your list, because things fell as shit that you really had no control over.
00:41:02.590 --> 00:41:09.950 Bruce Cramer: But recycle it. Don't panic. Take a deep breath. It's going to happen all right, Angie.
00:41:10.860 --> 00:41:14.789 Angie: No, I think that's what what is so crazy about. This
00:41:14.930 --> 00:41:27.300 Angie: is, we've been in 7 weeks right? This is the 1st one that I was like, Hey, guys, all hell broke loose. I I don't know if I can do that. 1st of all, I did have a little bit of what? Not touch that back up because I had you guys
00:41:27.300 --> 00:41:45.820 Angie: all of us doing this together. It wasn't like, you know what I mean. I had. No, I didn't panic. So I'm like, Oh, Bruce! And like, if I get into in time, I'll pop in and say, Hi! But it was like such a huge, weightless. And I'm like, this is awesome. This is important. But it wasn't urgent because you guys had it covered.
00:41:45.940 --> 00:42:08.140 Angie: If it if it was just me, it would have been important and urgent. But it's not because you guys had me covered. So that was that was really really awesome. And also it was so timely because I did go through those quadrants again like I said I knew them, but I went through them because it was fresh in my mind. I'm like, Damn! This is such a good time for these suckers. And also I guess
00:42:08.550 --> 00:42:37.929 Angie: I think the other thing I would say is like, so I'm on my way to a girls weekend at the beach guys. So and part of me was like, that's not important. And then I looked back in my last few weeks, and I said, That is so important I need to take care of myself. I need to have the time away where I'm not stressed. I'm not panicked, and I can rejuvenate and refresh. So something that, like logically, and my business brain was not important. I have learned by working with brilliant people like Bruce. And that's important. So yeah, I'm gonna go.
00:42:37.930 --> 00:42:38.360 Bruce Cramer: Well.
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:39.670 Angie: That, with my.
00:42:39.670 --> 00:42:46.419 Bruce Cramer: Ladies and ladies and gentlemen, she just proved the point. She's living in Quadrant 2,
00:42:46.780 --> 00:42:54.729 Bruce Cramer: the gold zone that was a gold zone. Answer, and boy, protect your energy. You nailed it
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.969 Bruce Cramer: so don't beat yourself up. Shit happens
00:42:58.100 --> 00:43:05.010 Bruce Cramer: all right. I got a couple questions for both. 1 1 question for both of you, Natesh, where would you like to spend more time.
00:43:07.460 --> 00:43:10.389 nawtej dosanjh: I've got to say, I am
00:43:10.989 --> 00:43:16.849 nawtej dosanjh: and I thought about this is not. It's not the off the top of my head. I am really happy with
00:43:17.220 --> 00:43:36.649 nawtej dosanjh: how I'm planning my time, and which quadrant I'm in most of the time. It's always a journey. But I'm really I don't know that there's anything else that I want to spend my time in. I'm really happy with what I'm spending my time in, and the amount of time I'm spending on each of those activities.
00:43:38.330 --> 00:43:39.350 nawtej dosanjh: I really feel like.
00:43:39.350 --> 00:43:40.360 Bruce Cramer: For you.
00:43:42.110 --> 00:43:43.629 Bruce Cramer: That's why he can do everything.
00:43:44.220 --> 00:43:46.010 Bruce Cramer: Okay, okay, Angie.
00:43:48.540 --> 00:43:50.517 Angie: Oh, I have to pick a quadrant!
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:51.970 Bruce Cramer: No, no.
00:43:51.970 --> 00:43:52.500 nawtej dosanjh: No worries.
00:43:52.500 --> 00:44:01.399 Bruce Cramer: Would you like to spend more time period if we talked about where you spend your time? Now? Where would you like to spend more. What would you like to spend more time on.
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:20.839 Angie: Yeah, I thought about this. I think what I want to spend more time on is there's more and more people that are reaching out to me with a need to redo their Linkedin profile, which is great, right? Because that means our branding worked. And everybody, some guy actually left a message. Today I'm a Linkedin sorceress. That was a new one, kind of like that one.
00:44:21.136 --> 00:44:33.399 Angie: But I thought, Man, there's more and more people that need this, and I can't do it right. I only have so many hours in a day, and I can only be there so much. So what I want to do is spend more time creating
00:44:33.490 --> 00:44:36.470 Angie: that one to infinity concept of
00:44:36.570 --> 00:44:58.789 Angie: online courses, things that they can do. It's me. But I'm not there. If that makes sense so that we can help more people. But you get to a certain point in time. There's just not. It can't always be you in person. But it can be me online. It could be me in a pre recorded course. It can be, and I have a few of those, but there's so many more that I think I could do, and I would like to
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:11.405 Angie: step back and spend more time doing that. So I can create more things because once you build the more one to infinity, the more people you can help the more things you can create. I mean, that's my thought. But you guys are the coaches. So coach me.
00:45:11.660 --> 00:45:24.419 nawtej dosanjh: So, Bruce I've got I've got. I've got 2 things. I've got a thing for Angie, and then I've got a question for you. So, Angie, I I think I've got a great way for you to. I think you're talking about scale
00:45:24.849 --> 00:45:28.740 nawtej dosanjh: I've got a great way for where you you could. You could scale
00:45:29.348 --> 00:45:35.450 nawtej dosanjh: not not just online courses, because I think that's 1 but but you you could spend
00:45:36.816 --> 00:45:40.239 nawtej dosanjh: rather than doing one to one on Linkedin.
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:58.829 nawtej dosanjh: You could have group sessions, new people that come in. You just have a 3 month running cycle. And you say, 10 people. I'm gonna I'm going to coach you for an hour on Linkedin once a week for an hour, and then you get to ask questions. In the second half of that.
00:46:02.630 --> 00:46:21.970 Angie: That's very good. Yeah. See, I didn't even think about I did try that once, but now I have so much more experience and and coaching from people like you and Bruce and Danny and Whatnot, that I think I could do a better job of that. So that's where I need to switch some of my time around projects and get to where I put time creating that
00:46:22.700 --> 00:46:24.319 Angie: awesome thanks, Santaj.
00:46:25.274 --> 00:46:33.200 nawtej dosanjh: My my pleasure. But next time next time you invite me to to your to your weekend on the beach, Bruce
00:46:33.580 --> 00:46:39.280 nawtej dosanjh: Bruce, I want to know where you would like to be spending more time, because
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.490 nawtej dosanjh: I think that would be a fascinating answer.
00:46:44.290 --> 00:46:47.179 Bruce Cramer: Well, unequivocally. My family.
00:46:48.580 --> 00:46:49.729 Bruce Cramer: Oh, boy!
00:46:50.190 --> 00:46:50.840 nawtej dosanjh: Yeah.
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:59.319 Bruce Cramer: I got 6 kids, and they're scattered through the 4 winds, and I now have 4 grandchildren, and I
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:03.040 Bruce Cramer: live on an island. The good news is
00:47:03.570 --> 00:47:13.260 Bruce Cramer: is that I thought about that because pretty much, and those you guys know me pretty well. My family sacrificed. I mean, I had a failed. Marriage.
00:47:14.542 --> 00:47:24.950 Bruce Cramer: which I was a big part of the reason, because I was such a hard charger, not only at work, but partying all that bullshit.
00:47:25.200 --> 00:47:30.460 Bruce Cramer: and I'm here to tell you, because I've been around since dirt as you get closer to the end.
00:47:30.590 --> 00:47:36.090 Bruce Cramer: That's not a cliche. It's your family that matters most.
00:47:36.200 --> 00:47:48.329 Bruce Cramer: And so what I've you know, somebody says, Well, why do you have 6 kids? We also have 6 rescue pets, but you know they'll say, well, why did you choose the island? Well, thank God, I have a great partner.
00:47:48.510 --> 00:47:54.619 Bruce Cramer: and the love of my life that said, you know what you live on an island. They'll come and see you.
00:47:55.140 --> 00:48:21.179 Bruce Cramer: And I thought, really, I mean, it's kind of a pain in the ass to get out here. Well, that was my 1st move towards it. Now, trust me, I'm still not spending anywhere enough time. But we're also starting to create traditions like, you know, we have a tradition where we meet up in Northern Wisconsin and Wisconsin. Dell's at the Water Park, so all of my grandkids, all of my kids, their spouses significant, others, etc, etc.
00:48:21.180 --> 00:48:42.869 Bruce Cramer: We get together and spend quality time playing games at the Water Park. The other thing we're doing is we're going to start to create a year from now Christmas in July. And so I'm trying to figure out ways. How do I see my kids more often? And how do we all see each other together, because that's what's most important. So that's my answer.
00:48:43.430 --> 00:48:48.079 nawtej dosanjh: I love that answer so much out of all the shows we've done.
00:48:48.540 --> 00:48:54.490 nawtej dosanjh: That's the best few seconds, the best collection of words.
00:48:54.650 --> 00:49:02.210 nawtej dosanjh: the best minute or 2 of speaking. Thank you for being so incredibly authentic, brilliant, amazing.
00:49:02.210 --> 00:49:24.180 Angie: A 100%. I couldn't agree more. That's probably my favorite. 2 min of this show all 8 episodes that was awesome, and and also our hearts as well. That's why we get along so well. That's why we want to build more groups and infinity, because we want more time with.
00:49:24.180 --> 00:49:29.869 nawtej dosanjh: Because we have only got 2, 3 min left. Now, though. What do you want to.
00:49:29.870 --> 00:49:35.490 Bruce Cramer: Well, I got to make sure I stay true to our advertisement, the challenge for the week
00:49:35.700 --> 00:49:43.659 Bruce Cramer: for anybody and everybody that listens to this, or has been a part of this is audit your time.
00:49:43.910 --> 00:49:45.980 Bruce Cramer: Take a look at your calendar.
00:49:46.090 --> 00:49:51.920 Bruce Cramer: Where did you spend your time? Did you see any improvement. Pick one task to drop.
00:49:52.630 --> 00:49:58.070 Bruce Cramer: because Angie's going through that right now. Pick one task to drop, one to delegate.
00:49:58.270 --> 00:50:01.979 Bruce Cramer: and one that you're going to put in that quadrant? 2,
00:50:02.140 --> 00:50:06.220 Bruce Cramer: where it's not urgent. But it's very important. And
00:50:06.520 --> 00:50:15.889 Bruce Cramer: what will you put there in addition? That's what do you guys have those? That's that's our challenge.
00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:42.580 Bruce Cramer: and what I can say for those that are on, just to advertise a little bit. About next week we lost Dr. Nettej next week because he's on business, because, like I said, he knows how to manage his time. So he's got a bunch of irons in the fire, and he's doing it rather well. And we're we're going to talk about balance in your life. And we're going to use another one of those old Swat tools, star tools that.
00:50:42.580 --> 00:50:43.910 nawtej dosanjh: Retired tools.
00:50:44.090 --> 00:50:53.550 Bruce Cramer: Yeah, that mean the world to anybody and everybody that I've ever come in contact with. But with that, what do you guys got closing comments.
00:50:53.760 --> 00:51:10.019 nawtej dosanjh: Very, very quickly. I just want to think I'd love everyone to think and and I often do this. I was, I think, in the long term. And I just think, what will my future self thank me for, and what will my future self
00:51:10.190 --> 00:51:21.710 nawtej dosanjh: criticize me for? So think about. Think about this from your from your future self. Think about yourself in 2530 years and you know.
00:51:22.120 --> 00:51:30.120 nawtej dosanjh: Don't. Don't wait until then to say, your family is important. You could. Your family could be important today.
00:51:32.350 --> 00:51:33.460 Angie: Yeah.
00:51:33.460 --> 00:51:41.500 Angie: that's a good idea. I actually did that. Not about 5 years ago. I I actually I wrote a note to my former son
00:51:41.926 --> 00:51:58.449 Angie: like if I had been. You know what I wish I knew when I was 20, and I think what's cool is when you look at that. No, you realize some of the values you have now, and it's something I I would like to do and just forget. But do it every 5 years. Write it to your former self, because
00:51:58.450 --> 00:52:12.199 Angie: that and captures your values more than you know when you're trying to give that advice to someone else like, hey, this is, wait a minute. This is what I want that person to know. Am I doing that now? I'm not. I need to change something for myself. So I think that's really good. I love that.
00:52:13.680 --> 00:52:18.289 Bruce Cramer: Well, with that. We're going to bring this to a close until next time.
00:52:18.580 --> 00:52:23.840 Bruce Cramer: Make time for what matters most cheers.
00:52:24.110 --> 00:52:24.520 nawtej dosanjh: Yes.
00:52:24.520 --> 00:52:24.860 Angie: Thank you.
00:52:24.860 --> 00:52:26.130 nawtej dosanjh: Thanks, Anji.
00:52:26.680 --> 00:52:27.210 nawtej dosanjh: There's.
00:52:27.210 --> 00:52:27.900 Angie: Cheers, everybody.
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