This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam welcomes Internationally Known Astrologer Author, Columnist, Entrepreneur, Publisher, and Pioneer of the Internet, Susan Miller.
Susan is the founder and editor of AstrologyZone.com, created in 1995. Her site is considered an authority in the field of Western astrology and is read avidly by 13 million unique readers.
Susan’s warmth, compassionate, philosophical style, as well as her accurate, comprehensive, and insightful reporting of current planetary trends has made Susan a true astrology star.
Susan is the author of 17 astrology books, as well as the popular “The Year Ahead” astrology calendars series which she self-publishes and have become collectables.
Susan also writes monthly columns for Vogue Japan, Vogue China, W South Korea, and Amica Italy. Susan’s latest book, “The Next 200 Years” she discusses the critical conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn that occurred in December 2020 and that will radically change life as we know it in decades to come.
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In this opening segment of The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam Liebowitz invites listeners to explore death not as something to fear, but as the greatest mystery of life—an invitation to shift from fear to curiosity and gratitude. Drawing inspiration from psychedelic researcher Roland Griffith’s grace in facing terminal illness, Sam reflects on how consciously contemplating mortality can deepen our appreciation for life and awaken profound inner peace. He then welcomes astrologer Susan Miller, who shares her powerful story of illness, destiny, and the spiritual path that led her to a life of astrological mastery and healing.
In this powerful segment, Susan Miller shares how her lifelong health challenges and early exposure to astrology through her mother eventually led her to become one of the most respected astrologers in the world. Though she built a successful career in publishing and photography, it was her compassion, spiritual insight, and dedication to helping others through astrology—offered freely and with accuracy—that ultimately opened the path to her true calling. Guided by both destiny and intuition, Susan embraced the digital age as her mother once foresaw, creating Astrology Zone and devoting herself fully to her soul’s work of empowering others through cosmic wisdom.
In this heartfelt and inspiring segment, Susan Miller shares how her mother’s astrological prediction of a mysterious “plug-in” communication method—what we now know as the Internet—became the destined channel for her life’s work. Despite immense challenges, including rejection, financial strain, and the collapse of early partnerships, Susan’s perseverance, faith, and deep commitment to service guided her from crisis to collaboration with tech giants like Apple and Disney. Her story is a powerful reminder to spiritually conscious listeners that when we align with our soul’s purpose and remain open to divine timing, the universe truly conspires to support our sacred path.
In this final segment, Susan Miller discusses how current planetary shifts—especially Pluto’s return—are fueling global upheaval but also paving the way for a more people-powered, collaborative future. With major planets moving into air and fire signs, Susan foresees a shift away from materialism and hierarchy toward intellectual contribution, innovation, and mutual support. Despite the turbulence, she expresses optimism about the U.S.'s upcoming positive astrological cycle and encourages us to embrace change with courage, connection, and conscious participation in shaping a better world.
00:00:40.380 --> 00:00:58.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Welcome to another edition of the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We've got a wonderful guest in store for you today.
00:00:59.170 --> 00:01:15.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: someone I'm truly looking forward to bringing on the show in just a moment. But first, st of course, we have our blog post from a couple of years ago, and this one is entitled, I don't know. This is kind of a different one. The greatest mystery of life
00:01:16.050 --> 00:01:18.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is what happens when it's over.
00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:25.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The unknown is often scary. It is normal to fear what we do not know
00:01:26.180 --> 00:01:33.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sometimes that fear stops us from exploring, and keeps us from enjoying the treasures of life.
00:01:34.010 --> 00:01:38.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for we cannot know everything that will happen in our life.
00:01:38.520 --> 00:01:43.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is so much in this universe that is beyond our comprehension.
00:01:45.310 --> 00:01:48.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In the biggest mystery of all
00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is, where do we go when we die?
00:01:51.160 --> 00:01:54.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We rarely talk about death in polite company.
00:01:55.180 --> 00:01:59.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a topic that is shunned in our general conversations.
00:01:59.670 --> 00:02:04.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Unless there is some gruesome accident or horrible tragedy.
00:02:05.370 --> 00:02:12.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Even then we do not talk about it in a personal way, like it is something that only happens to others.
00:02:13.260 --> 00:02:21.369 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet the mystery of our own mortality is one of the most important events we can contemplate.
00:02:22.130 --> 00:02:27.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and in contemplating our own demise we can come to great insight and peace.
00:02:28.410 --> 00:02:38.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: though it is much more common to find that we push it away, and do not think about it until we become ill or deteriorate physically.
00:02:39.500 --> 00:02:43.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then we only face it with fear and trepidation.
00:02:44.210 --> 00:02:50.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we do that, we deny ourselves. One of the greatest opportunities that life offers us
00:02:51.220 --> 00:02:55.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for mysteries can be fascinating and thrilling.
00:02:56.550 --> 00:02:58.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Death is no different.
00:02:58.470 --> 00:03:02.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In fact, it is the greatest mystery of all.
00:03:02.460 --> 00:03:07.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So why do we face it with fear instead of curiosity?
00:03:08.250 --> 00:03:12.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Could we not shift our trepidation into gratitude?
00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:19.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Gratitude that we get to participate in the greatest adventure of our lives.
00:03:20.070 --> 00:03:29.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Of course, when our demise comes at a young age, it can feel like a tragedy. When we see so much unfulfilled promise and potential.
00:03:29.970 --> 00:03:37.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Still in our own lives, we know how much we have experienced and learned over the years.
00:03:37.480 --> 00:03:43.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and when we are at peace in our lives we can approach death in a peaceful way as well.
00:03:44.340 --> 00:03:46.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Perhaps not all the time.
00:03:47.220 --> 00:03:53.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Even feeling that waste some of the time is a great accomplishment
00:03:54.470 --> 00:03:57.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: may be the greatest of our lifetime.
00:03:57.810 --> 00:04:03.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Death may be an ending, and it is also a beginning.
00:04:03.790 --> 00:04:06.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a beginning of what comes next.
00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of what awaits us on the other side of life.
00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No one knows for certain what that will be like.
00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:20.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Why not prepare ourselves for that eventuality with grace
00:04:21.970 --> 00:04:27.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for a life well lived is the best way to face the end of that life
00:04:27.740 --> 00:04:34.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and curiosity. For what comes next, instead of fear is far more empowering.
00:04:35.510 --> 00:04:37.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Have you contemplated your own death?
00:04:38.290 --> 00:04:44.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can you make peace with your life so you can be be at peace with your death as well.
00:04:46.710 --> 00:04:50.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I wrote this blog post a couple of years ago
00:04:51.790 --> 00:04:59.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in June. It was after I came back from the Psychedelic Sciences Conference in Denver.
00:05:00.370 --> 00:05:06.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I wrote it because at that conference Roland Griffith.
00:05:07.540 --> 00:05:13.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who was the head of the Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic Research.
00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:19.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: talked about how he had Stage 4 colon cancer.
00:05:22.510 --> 00:05:34.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and he talked about it with such grace, such poise, even talking about how.
00:05:34.290 --> 00:05:36.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: knowing that his end was near.
00:05:37.170 --> 00:05:42.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: he was so much more grateful for every moment he had left to live.
00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:49.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: He brought the entire audience of thousands of people to tears.
00:05:50.300 --> 00:06:04.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I have never seen anyone in my life talk about their own death with such reverence, with such
00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:16.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: such grace. I just I just don't know another word to use, and it truly touched me.
00:06:17.730 --> 00:06:23.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It touched me, because I know
00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:25.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I could not do that today
00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:31.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if I found out I had some terminal illness, and I had 6 months to live, or something.
00:06:32.010 --> 00:06:37.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, 1st of all, I would do everything not to make it only 6 months, but
00:06:38.080 --> 00:06:41.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I just don't feel I could have approach
00:06:42.440 --> 00:06:47.419 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that same kind of situation, with the grace and poise and
00:06:48.590 --> 00:06:54.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and openness that he displayed that day on that stage.
00:06:59.170 --> 00:07:02.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he he passed away last year
00:07:06.960 --> 00:07:07.625 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and
00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:11.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know
00:07:11.490 --> 00:07:18.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I didn't. I knew of him. I didn't know him. I didn't have a personal relationship with him.
00:07:20.860 --> 00:07:25.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but just listening to him talk that day at the at the conference
00:07:26.380 --> 00:07:30.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just touched my heart in such a deep way.
00:07:31.070 --> 00:07:35.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But when I came back, this is this is what came out of me. This is what I wrote.
00:07:38.470 --> 00:07:43.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it's interesting how over the last few years more and more
00:07:43.520 --> 00:07:50.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: people I meet are Death Doulas, or friends who are studying how to be a death, Doula, and how
00:07:52.050 --> 00:07:53.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: approaching death.
00:07:53.840 --> 00:08:01.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: talking about death, preparing for death instead of just waiting, allowing it to happen and ignoring it till the last minute.
00:08:02.450 --> 00:08:06.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I hear about it in conversations with people a little bit more.
00:08:10.850 --> 00:08:26.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I do realize, and you know I've had on several guests who've written books on the the inner work of aging and the and and the how to approach aging from a spiritual perspective. And
00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:30.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I guess maybe just because I'm getting older.
00:08:30.490 --> 00:08:33.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I want to talk about these topics more.
00:08:34.370 --> 00:08:42.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but I feel like we all need to talk about this topic more for a variety of reasons.
00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:54.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not the least of which is learning how to approach this greatest mystery of life, would something other
00:08:55.020 --> 00:09:00.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: than fear and anger and sadness.
00:09:01.230 --> 00:09:03.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that there has to be a better way
00:09:04.350 --> 00:09:11.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of dealing with this eventuality that we will all face one way or another.
00:09:13.400 --> 00:09:20.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post again. The title is the greatest mystery of life
00:09:20.900 --> 00:09:23.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is what happens when it is over.
00:09:23.740 --> 00:09:50.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you can always find my blog at my personally branded website, theconsciousconsultant.com. And if you like my blog post, you know that I do have my book everyday Awakening. You are more powerful than you know. That's a wonderful collection of many blog posts, and of course you can always find it at the station's website, talkradio, dot Nyc slash blog.
00:09:51.990 --> 00:09:57.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show
00:09:57.750 --> 00:10:13.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: internationally known. Astrologer, author, columnist, entrepreneur, publisher, and pioneer of the Internet. Susan Miller. Susan is the founder and editor of astrologyzone.com created in 1995,
00:10:13.390 --> 00:10:42.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: she, her site, is considered an authority in the field of Western astrology, and is read avidly by over 13 million readers. Susan's warm, compassionate, philosophical style, as well as her accurate, comprehensive, and insightful reporting of current planetary trends has made Susan a true astrology star. Not only that she's written over 17 books. She comes out with a calendar every year. She is truly amazing. Welcome to the conscious consultant hour. Susan.
00:10:42.710 --> 00:10:45.330 Susan Miller: Thank you. I'm thrilled to be on your show.
00:10:45.330 --> 00:10:54.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, I've been looking forward to having you come on for for months now. I'm really glad that it worked today. So thank you for taking time to come on.
00:10:54.780 --> 00:11:07.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I always like to start off with, like, you know, understanding the journey a little bit. So I mean, were you always into astrology from the time.
00:11:07.110 --> 00:11:11.430 Susan Miller: No, no, I didn't want anyone to know. I knew astrology.
00:11:12.496 --> 00:11:17.610 Susan Miller: I wanted to learn it, but I have a very unusual background.
00:11:17.610 --> 00:11:18.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:11:18.040 --> 00:11:21.780 Susan Miller: I was born with a terrible birth, defect, life threatening.
00:11:21.780 --> 00:11:22.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:11:22.490 --> 00:11:48.099 Susan Miller: And the doctors couldn't figure out what it was, because the Mris weren't as good as they are now, and I mean the equipment was just not where we have now. We're very lucky. And in those days when I was little, if they couldn't figure it out, there was something wrong with you mentally that you were making it up, or didn't want to go to school, or whatever I would get a tax
00:11:48.380 --> 00:11:51.900 Susan Miller: every year, usually on a holiday.
00:11:52.180 --> 00:11:52.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Join.
00:11:52.540 --> 00:12:03.179 Susan Miller: Christmas, Easter, my birthday. One of them and I would be in bed for 8 weeks. I couldn't move an inch in the bed. I couldn't get up out of the bed.
00:12:03.410 --> 00:12:10.800 Susan Miller: and I'd be in really bad pain. My mother would change the sheets with me in the bed very gingerly.
00:12:10.800 --> 00:12:11.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And.
00:12:11.300 --> 00:12:33.980 Susan Miller: Pull the one sheet out the way they do in the hospital, and she felt so bad that I had this mysterious illness, and she was determined to figure it out. She was an astrologer, a scholar, but never did consultations because she felt it wasn't accepted. So she just studied and studied and studied, and only did charts for the family.
00:12:35.050 --> 00:12:44.000 Susan Miller: She was brilliant, and when I was 14 I went into the hospital and had the mystery solved.
00:12:44.940 --> 00:12:48.970 Susan Miller: and it was my veins on the left side.
00:12:49.250 --> 00:12:58.770 Susan Miller: I like tissue paper that at some point rupture and disappear, and I would become a river of blood inside when you bleed internally, even a teaspoon
00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:28.559 Susan Miller: very painful, and I've had in my life the whole span of life 40 blood transfusions, I mean that year that they went in. I was in for 11 months and a lot of surgeries, and they had, and I had to be paralyzed from the knee down. They saw I was bleeding out, and I was going to either lose the leg or lose my life, and they had a team of doctors come in. I had the chief of staff, and he had
00:13:28.560 --> 00:13:49.759 Susan Miller: there. You know, he said, we brought in the other doctors, and I said, Wait a minute. Their names are on all the buildings in the neighborhood, he said, we have the best for you, and they tourniqueted me so tightly they knew it would damage the nerve, and when I woke up from the surgery. You know how they put a little fork on you, and.
00:13:50.210 --> 00:13:52.029 Susan Miller: Can you feel it?
00:13:52.700 --> 00:14:01.669 Susan Miller: Can you wiggle your toes? I'll try. But I couldn't. But I wasn't angry. I wasn't angry at my doctor. I wasn't.
00:14:01.790 --> 00:14:04.940 Susan Miller: said, I said to myself, this is my destiny.
00:14:04.940 --> 00:14:05.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:14:05.780 --> 00:14:09.800 Susan Miller: The way it was supposed to go. I'm just happy to be here.
00:14:09.800 --> 00:14:10.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do you.
00:14:10.290 --> 00:14:13.479 Susan Miller: But I was really really sick.
00:14:15.010 --> 00:14:16.370 Susan Miller: I mean it was.
00:14:16.570 --> 00:14:26.030 Susan Miller: It was touch and go. But I did leave the hospital after 11 months, and then I went into 2 and a half years of intense physical therapy.
00:14:26.030 --> 00:14:26.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To bring up.
00:14:26.570 --> 00:14:29.410 Susan Miller: Leg back. So if you saw me then walking down.
00:14:29.770 --> 00:14:39.340 Susan Miller: you'd say, Oh, you're making all this up. They put electrodes on so I wouldn't look like a polio leg, you know. They had to keep.
00:14:39.760 --> 00:14:40.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Cool.
00:14:40.400 --> 00:14:40.930 Susan Miller: This.
00:14:40.930 --> 00:14:46.020 Susan Miller: So that's why no one, when I get tired I limp a little bit, but.
00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:51.200 Susan Miller: Oh, slightly, and I can't wear heels, and you know every girl likes to wear heels.
00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:51.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:14:51.700 --> 00:14:59.640 Susan Miller: And I can't anymore. I did for a while, but the bones are moving in the foot, and you know when you don't.
00:15:00.110 --> 00:15:05.590 Susan Miller: when it's not strong, I mean, you can't have the bones moving in the foot of warehouse.
00:15:05.590 --> 00:15:06.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right, right.
00:15:06.570 --> 00:15:09.492 Susan Miller: We're wearing still. So it's terrible. So
00:15:10.020 --> 00:15:27.449 Susan Miller: During that process after the operation, I really wanted to learn astrology. So I kept asking my mother to teach me. And she kept saying, No, no, no, no, no! Why! And she said, you'll study for a year, and you'll read for your friends and think you know what you're doing.
00:15:27.450 --> 00:15:37.620 Susan Miller: I said. But wait, I don't have any friends. I'm not in school, and I was okay with that. People go. Oh, you didn't have any friends. I was okay. I was a kid who liked to read, or
00:15:37.620 --> 00:16:00.440 Susan Miller: I could make myself happy while I was getting well, and of course I had to teach myself high school. The Board of Ed did bring a teacher twice a week for 1 h to my house, so I changed it from math and English to 2 h of math, because teaching yourself trigonometry and things like that, because I would have to take the regents test the Psats.
00:16:01.160 --> 00:16:20.839 Susan Miller: I was going to college. I had to graduate high school, so I was so busy studying. But she said, No, you have to study 12 years, or you won't be any good. I said, Okay, I will. I love you. I'll do whatever you say. And she didn't believe I was serious.
00:16:21.450 --> 00:16:24.420 Susan Miller: And I finally wrote to Horoscope magazine
00:16:24.530 --> 00:16:42.929 Susan Miller: and they have a section she got it. She subscribed to. It was always in the house, and I saw in the one part of it that they did a chart that you know you'd write in. Tell them your question. They wouldn't use your name, but they would use your birthday and time of birth, and so forth, and they would do your chart and answer your question.
00:16:42.930 --> 00:16:43.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: -
00:16:43.290 --> 00:16:44.939 Susan Miller: So I wrote to them, but
00:16:45.370 --> 00:16:50.699 Susan Miller: I didn't hear anything. So one day my mother walked into the living room, and I'm
00:16:50.810 --> 00:16:56.320 Susan Miller: working on my homework, and she said, Did you write to Horoscope magazine? I said I did.
00:16:56.680 --> 00:17:00.660 Susan Miller: How do you know that was 7 months ago, and I never got a response.
00:17:00.660 --> 00:17:01.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:17:01.460 --> 00:17:03.389 Susan Miller: I think you're in the latest issue.
00:17:03.540 --> 00:17:04.980 Susan Miller: This is your birthday.
00:17:04.980 --> 00:17:05.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This is your.
00:17:05.450 --> 00:17:12.443 Susan Miller: Problem, and you have a very rare, rare problem. So it has to be. You.
00:17:13.285 --> 00:17:13.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So.
00:17:13.660 --> 00:17:23.579 Susan Miller: I said, Okay, let's what did the lady say? The editor-in-chief? She said. I didn't read it yet. Let's read it together. When you ask an astrologer any question.
00:17:24.109 --> 00:17:48.589 Susan Miller: They have to be like a detective. Look at the whole chart. Good family support lives in a big city, access to facilities, good attitude of the patient. What are the aspects to health? Does it show long recovery? All kinds of things? So she read it to me, and at the end. The lady, the editor-in-chief said, We think you'll walk again.
00:17:48.899 --> 00:18:00.709 Susan Miller: And I said, Now, mommy, she used words I don't understand sextile opposition. I want you to teach me astrology so I could figure that out, she said. But you have your answer.
00:18:01.449 --> 00:18:03.449 Susan Miller: And then I went like this, you know.
00:18:03.819 --> 00:18:08.089 Susan Miller: and she said, you want to check the editor in chief, I said, of course.
00:18:09.800 --> 00:18:12.100 Susan Miller: so that's when she she gave in.
00:18:12.100 --> 00:18:27.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, okay, let's let's hold it there because we got to take a break. And so when we come back, let's talk about well, how did you go from just knowing astrology to being a professional astrologer and achieving all the amazing things you've achieved? Okay, Susan.
00:18:27.820 --> 00:18:28.560 Susan Miller: Okay.
00:18:28.560 --> 00:18:45.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time right here on Talkradio, dot Nyc. And we'll be right back with our guest, Susan Miller, of astrologyzone.com in just a moment.
00:20:31.450 --> 00:20:42.559 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with Susan Miller, a world class internationally known astrologist. So
00:20:42.860 --> 00:20:51.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how did you go from this girl who pestered her mom about teaching her astrology to being someone who like decided, I'm going to do this for a living.
00:20:52.770 --> 00:20:59.920 Susan Miller: It. You know there's a saying in astrology you don't choose astrology. Astrology chooses you.
00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:00.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:21:00.510 --> 00:21:28.729 Susan Miller: And that's what happened after that ordeal. I was admitted at 16 because I had graduated at 16 high school to Nyu, and my father said, you better, Major, in business, because you'll always work if you do. And I thought, well, the last thing I need is to be unemployed all the time. So Ok, I'll major in business, and Nyu was near the hospital and I would have to go occasionally for treatments.
00:21:28.730 --> 00:21:56.670 Susan Miller: So it worked out, and I graduated with honors, and I went into publishing, and I worked for magazines. My 1st job was Life Magazine, and then 17 and cosmopolitan different ones working in the business side of the magazine, but at 17 I was really intrigued with the photographer down the hall, who would take a product and photograph it for the small business.
00:21:56.990 --> 00:22:20.269 Susan Miller: and then we would run ads for them. We had a little area, you know, for little businesses. They made hats. They made different things, you know, and I kept watching him work, and I loved it so much. I remember his name was Herbie, and I would stay late, you know. He would stay late, I'd be done at 5 o'clock, so I'd walk down the hall and say, Well, I'm here. I'm going to watch you shoot.
00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.550 Susan Miller: and I learned a lot of technical.
00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:35.219 Susan Miller: and I finally became an agent for commercial photographers. I couldn't lift the equipment myself with my leg so. But I found out. I just needed to be near it
00:22:35.350 --> 00:22:36.740 Susan Miller: and explain it.
00:22:37.040 --> 00:22:51.110 Susan Miller: and my technical allowed me to explain it. I became super successful. I especially in still life photography. I cracked Coca-cola for the world, but I also had car.
00:22:51.230 --> 00:23:00.129 Susan Miller: the car clients, Mercedes, Benz, Audi! Bmw. All of the big ones, and I don't know how to drive.
00:23:02.120 --> 00:23:13.670 Susan Miller: Children are saying, well, this car has a symbol that looks like the peace symbol, mom trying to keep them all straight. But I was again really successful, because I had a good eye.
00:23:13.740 --> 00:23:27.140 Susan Miller: and I would. In those days there was no Internet really cooking yet, so I would visit art directors. It was a very warm and wonderful kind of industry.
00:23:27.140 --> 00:23:51.349 Susan Miller: and I sort of got the reputation that if you have a bad situation going on, you broke up with your boyfriend. Your landlord sold the building. You have to move, whatever it was. Your mom's in the hospital call 911, and Susan will answer, and she'll come right down and see you. And it was true, and I was practicing my astrology, but never asking to be paid.
00:23:51.530 --> 00:24:01.529 Susan Miller: just doing lots and lots and lots of charts. The whole industry knew it, and and I was accurate because I had. You know, my mother comes from the German side of my family.
00:24:02.210 --> 00:24:02.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:24:02.890 --> 00:24:09.670 Susan Miller: Have to be accurate. And also my mother stressed. Get feedback, find out what happened. So it's.
00:24:09.670 --> 00:24:10.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You've got.
00:24:10.030 --> 00:24:15.739 Susan Miller: To call me. You have to come on. That's the deal you have to tell me what happens. And
00:24:16.620 --> 00:24:37.200 Susan Miller: This went on for quite a long time, and one day we shot Cheerios, and you know you wake up one morning, and you don't know. This is going to be the day that changes your life. We shot Cheerios! It came out great it was for the box on 8 by 10 camera, and the milk is splashing. The Cheerios are dancing in the air. It was for Saatchi and Saatchi.
00:24:37.200 --> 00:25:01.599 Susan Miller: and I was so grateful I'm always grateful when I get a big account. So I took the creative director to lunch in a beautiful restaurant to thank him, and I said, You know I had told him, I'll do your chart if you like, and creative people live their life creatively. They want to see how to push back the boundaries of their life and live a more richer experience.
00:25:01.600 --> 00:25:07.039 Susan Miller: try different things, so that industry loves astrology, create.
00:25:07.040 --> 00:25:08.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah.
00:25:08.030 --> 00:25:28.539 Susan Miller: So I read his chart, and he said, Oh, my wife would love you, and I remember saying I would love her. What did she do? He said. She's creative director of Warner books in the same building where I used to work at life. And so I went up to meet Jackie Meyer, and we are to become best friends. We hit it off
00:25:29.140 --> 00:25:37.540 Susan Miller: so well, and she would give me books. She would show me galleys. She would show me books in development because she was the creative director of Warner books.
00:25:37.540 --> 00:25:38.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:25:38.100 --> 00:25:46.010 Susan Miller: And and we'd go across the street to China Grill and have lunch once in a while, and I would read her chart about every 6 months.
00:25:46.250 --> 00:25:48.750 Susan Miller: and she said, I have a feeling about you.
00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:50.699 Susan Miller: I'm going to get you a buck.
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:57.529 Susan Miller: Well, it took a couple of years, and one day I wrote this little baby book sold out.
00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:59.439 Susan Miller: She calls me back.
00:25:59.820 --> 00:26:10.719 Susan Miller: You're going upstairs to the Webmaster, I said, wait a minute. What of time? Incorporated? She said, yes, of Pathfinder. It was Pathfinder before Aol.
00:26:11.080 --> 00:26:11.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, bye.
00:26:11.860 --> 00:26:14.480 Susan Miller: What do they want? She said. I don't know.
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.220 Susan Miller: And you know what. I don't think they know.
00:26:17.450 --> 00:26:20.190 Susan Miller: You come with your ideas, too. I said, Okay.
00:26:21.520 --> 00:26:26.010 Susan Miller: and I knew this is what my mother had predicted, although at the time
00:26:26.630 --> 00:26:39.709 Susan Miller: when I was 9 years old, I asked my mother what I would do when I grew up, and she said, You're going to write. I said right. No one in our family writes for a living, she said. You're going to write, and I'm going to work on your grammar.
00:26:40.760 --> 00:26:44.111 Susan Miller: She was a gemini, and and so I
00:26:44.770 --> 00:26:51.539 Susan Miller: you know, she said. But this isn't going to happen until you're about 37 or so, you know. Later, you know, you're gonna
00:26:52.170 --> 00:27:02.810 Susan Miller: and I needed more surgeries. So I began writing for magazines while I was going, I would always have long recoveries, like 6 months.
00:27:02.810 --> 00:27:03.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 11 months, 8.
00:27:03.770 --> 00:27:31.469 Susan Miller: Months, so I needed a way to bring in money. So I started writing for magazines. I would show them my work, and somehow they liked my style, and I was 1st writing for bridal magazines and then for Mccall's Magazine, I mean, which was a Bible Belt magazine, and they wanted me, anyway, you know, and I'm very optimistic, you know, despite everything. That's the way you're either born optimistic or you're not. And I
00:27:31.470 --> 00:27:36.989 Susan Miller: right that way and it it just
00:27:37.320 --> 00:27:39.589 Susan Miller: when I went up to time, Warner.
00:27:39.690 --> 00:27:43.030 Susan Miller: They they wanted me to write for women.
00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:45.040 Susan Miller: Women.
00:27:45.330 --> 00:27:47.410 Susan Miller: Men want to know what's coming.
00:27:48.040 --> 00:27:50.060 Susan Miller: Why would we just write to women.
00:27:50.230 --> 00:28:11.519 Susan Miller: Well, I said, well, I said, in ancient days in Mesopotamia the only person who had the ability to have an astrologer was the King. He had to have the mathematician in a nearby university come on horseback to the castle, and it had to be close enough so he could get back and teach the next day. They're like, Oh.
00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:30.860 Susan Miller: well, I guess we should include men, I said. I should write in such a way that is not gender specific. They're like, okay. But I said, What were you thinking? They said every day 25 words. I said, No, no, no, that will eat me up alive. No, I want to change the world, and I can't
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:38.099 Susan Miller: world. At 25 words per day per sign. I want to write a monthly, and I want it to be long.
00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:43.730 Susan Miller: This is long. They say 500 words should be the maximum, I said, that's good for other people.
00:28:44.450 --> 00:28:47.630 Susan Miller: for me. No, no, it could be long.
00:28:47.630 --> 00:28:48.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: At the top.
00:28:48.100 --> 00:28:53.169 Susan Miller: Time they said, How long per sign? I said 1,700 words.
00:28:54.090 --> 00:28:55.490 Susan Miller: I'm writing
00:28:55.970 --> 00:29:06.809 Susan Miller: this month for for June. I wrote 4,000 words for a lot of the signs. Some are 3,500 altogether. I wrote 41,000 words for all, 12 signs.
00:29:06.810 --> 00:29:08.469 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow! Wow!
00:29:08.470 --> 00:29:16.350 Susan Miller: I write long. But see in astrology if you don't explain something clearly enough.
00:29:16.670 --> 00:29:26.740 Susan Miller: confusing and misleading. And on the Internet I have the room. I've often said to myself, if I had to pay someone to do what I do, I couldn't.
00:29:26.740 --> 00:29:28.060 Susan Miller: good man.
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:52.359 Susan Miller: but they said, Look, wait, wait! Wait! Why would you do this? I said, well, when I was 9 years old I asked my mother, what will I write? You know? What will I do with this writing, she said. When you reach close t04037383940, some newly invented form of communication so new we don't know the name of it yet will change
00:29:52.710 --> 00:30:00.640 Susan Miller: way you work, and be the channel in which you make your ultimate contribution to the world I was like.
00:30:01.293 --> 00:30:05.420 Susan Miller: how can you know that by looking at that piece of paper.
00:30:05.420 --> 00:30:05.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:30:05.780 --> 00:30:08.100 Susan Miller: You have Aquarius on the Midheaven.
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:18.730 Susan Miller: That's the highest point where the 12 is on the clock, she said. That's the newly invented form, I said, Tell me more, tell me more. Well.
00:30:18.730 --> 00:30:23.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let's hold it there for a moment. I apologize. We got to take another break.
00:30:23.324 --> 00:30:24.020 Susan Miller: But when we come.
00:30:24.020 --> 00:30:28.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Back you'll you'll tell us about. You know the question.
00:30:28.330 --> 00:30:30.270 Susan Miller: She defined it.
00:30:30.270 --> 00:30:51.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, absolutely wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour we're talking to Susan Miller, author of astrologyzone.com and creative, this wonderful calendar the year ahead. 2025. There you go, very beautiful, and we'll be right back to keep up going the conversation.
00:30:56.230 --> 00:30:57.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We'll be right back.
00:32:30.940 --> 00:32:37.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right, Susan. So you were saying that your mom predicted this new form of communication.
00:32:37.830 --> 00:32:41.589 Susan Miller: See I I said. Well, tell me more about it, she said. It.
00:32:41.750 --> 00:33:06.009 Susan Miller: Aquarius is ruled by Uranus. Uranus is electricity. It rules electricity, so it has something to do with plugging in the wall, and it's communication because all air signs, whether they're Gemini, Aquarius or Libra are communicative air signs. So it has to do with your ability to communicate, and I have Gemini rising.
00:33:06.410 --> 00:33:31.929 Susan Miller: Well, I drove her crazy. I followed her around the house. You have to tell me more. You have to tell me more. And she finally said something that really zippered me. She said, all right. I'm going to tell you something that won't make sense. Just put it in your pocket. Remember it. It doesn't make sense to me, either. There are little dots or lines that go through the air that are invisible, and it has something to do with your writing. And this new
00:33:32.180 --> 00:33:33.270 Susan Miller: invention.
00:33:33.270 --> 00:33:34.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!
00:33:34.710 --> 00:33:36.629 Susan Miller: And she was protecting the Internet.
00:33:36.630 --> 00:33:37.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!
00:33:37.560 --> 00:33:45.699 Susan Miller: And when I was in that taxicab, leaving my house, I live in Manhattan. Going down, we went down Broadway.
00:33:45.860 --> 00:33:52.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then turn to the Time Life Building, which was still opposite Radio City Music Hall at the time they have since moved.
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.819 Susan Miller: And I knew this, is it.
00:33:56.980 --> 00:34:06.319 Susan Miller: this is it? And and when I went up there they didn't really know what they wanted. But I told them that story, and I put my elbows on the table and went like this.
00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:10.759 Susan Miller: Don't you see? This is my destiny?
00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:15.960 Susan Miller: And they oh, I was dealing with Harvard, Yale, and Dartmouth, you know.
00:34:16.900 --> 00:34:19.020 Susan Miller: And they all look to the man in the middle.
00:34:19.350 --> 00:34:26.899 Susan Miller: and he thought for a minute, and he said, Susan, we're not going to stand in your way. You're so passionate. We're going to let you do anything you want.
00:34:26.909 --> 00:34:28.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!
00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:30.789 Susan Miller: And not every company would do that.
00:34:30.790 --> 00:34:31.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:34:31.350 --> 00:35:00.032 Susan Miller: Companies have a not invented here mentality. If they didn't think it up, they weren't going to let you do it. But that's why I feel so bad that time got involved with Aol and died. But I was with timing for 3 years, and then I was in crisis. Nobody was buying material of doors were being slammed in my face, I would license the material to them. I still kept my job as an agent. During the day I had 2 children and
00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:22.370 Susan Miller: no, I needed to send them to private school because I had such a hard time with education. I was obsessed with giving them the best. So I kept working. And and then they said, Well, we're leaving. And with Aol you can't be here. They will rule the Internet. You have to find a happy home for your website. I remember them using those terms.
00:35:22.370 --> 00:35:34.620 Susan Miller: And finally, I was really at the end. I had sent out 50 Fedexes with beautiful, you know. I hired a designer to make it almost look like an annual report. What I was doing.
00:35:34.620 --> 00:35:35.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm.
00:35:35.190 --> 00:35:40.780 Susan Miller: Wanted to go, and it's so funny how God works.
00:35:41.260 --> 00:35:50.669 Susan Miller: It was, I knew, the luckiest day of the year was coming up at February 23, rd which was a Saturday, and nobody.
00:35:50.670 --> 00:35:51.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How is it?
00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:53.309 Susan Miller: Talking to me. It was about.
00:35:53.600 --> 00:35:56.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The luckiest day of the year for you personally, or for people.
00:35:56.420 --> 00:36:11.550 Susan Miller: Well for everybody, because Jupiter meets with the sun. We're gonna have that this month on June 24.th But that year it was meeting, you know, on on a Saturday, and it was really touching my my planet.
00:36:11.720 --> 00:36:16.169 Susan Miller: So on planet Susan, I thought, I'll fly out on Monday.
00:36:16.180 --> 00:36:45.280 Susan Miller: Meet with Microsoft on Tuesday, and have a letter of intent legally. By Friday everything was just going to fall in place. Well, it was a train wreck. It was the worst meeting of my life. 1st of all I had a cold, so I was coughing as if I was typhoid. Mary and I get to Seattle, and they're in Bellevue. There's a dentist convention. I can't get a good hotel. I'm staying in an okay hotel, but
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:56.780 Susan Miller: you know I usually like a little nicer, because then you have the concierge to help you. It's pouring rain every day, and I go to the meeting, and they want me to cut my content to 100 words per.
00:36:56.850 --> 00:36:59.660 Susan Miller: And I can't do that, I said. I can't.
00:36:59.820 --> 00:37:07.159 Susan Miller: I can't change my product. I can't do that. So I come back to the hotel miserable.
00:37:07.430 --> 00:37:29.350 Susan Miller: and nothing's working, I said, let's meet tomorrow. No, they didn't want to. No, I have a budget meeting. I have a softball practice. I mean, they just had a million reasons why they couldn't be breakfast, lunch, or dinner. So I come back to the hotel thinking, how could I be so wrong. The phone is ringing, and it's my friend who works very high up at Microsoft and wants to know how it went.
00:37:29.470 --> 00:37:45.199 Susan Miller: And I said, terrible. And she said, who was at the meeting. Oh, Larry, he's going to be fired next week, Melissa, she's never had an interesting idea. No, no, no, no, you shouldn't. No, no, no, stay away, I said. Why am I hearing wishing behind you? And she said, I'm in Cupertino? I'm in the car.
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.539 Susan Miller: I said. You're in Cupertino. She says we work with apple. I said, Oh, okay. Well.
00:37:50.660 --> 00:37:59.650 Susan Miller: I'll see you in New York. I won't be back in time to have dinner with you, and she. Her title was Director of Virtual Worlds and Research. She dealt.
00:38:01.340 --> 00:38:07.979 Susan Miller: she reported, directly to Gates, but I knew that the door was closed on this. So I
00:38:08.540 --> 00:38:34.089 Susan Miller: I hung up. And this is so interesting. What happens next? I call New York. And I said, Okay, what's happening at the office anything I should know. This meeting didn't go so great. They said, you can't come home. There's going to be a big snowfall. They're closing Liberty, Jfk and Laguardia. There's going to be 33 inches of snow. Nobody's going in or out of New York. You have to stay on the West coast.
00:38:34.530 --> 00:38:35.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow!
00:38:35.370 --> 00:38:37.440 Susan Miller: Oh! In February I must.
00:38:37.925 --> 00:38:42.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. It twist my arm a little more sure.
00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:58.469 Susan Miller: So I think, what can I do? Well, I want to leave Seattle because it's raining, and I'm thinking, Cupertino. Well, wait a minute. Apple had written a story about me called the Astrologer, who believes in Apple because I had called them, and I said, You know, everybody's making fun of
00:38:59.010 --> 00:39:11.571 Susan Miller: of Steve Jobs and and the PC. People think he has a silly little toy, and I I can help you with product introductions. I can give you the dates, he said. Who are you?
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:19.000 Susan Miller: And I may be a little mouse, but I could help you. I mean, I'm I'm tiny compared to you, but I can help.
00:39:19.120 --> 00:39:31.490 Susan Miller: he said. You're very interesting. Do you do charts on your on your Mac? I said. Oh, yes, all the time, he said. Steve told us to watch for people doing interesting things on the Mac. I'm putting my best writer to write a story about you.
00:39:31.490 --> 00:39:31.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:39:31.850 --> 00:39:53.040 Susan Miller: So they did, and I gave them all the dates, but they didn't print them, and I said, Why didn't you print them? Well, we didn't want our competition to know our best dates. I'm like, Oh, okay, very good, very good. And so when I was, you know, in that hotel, standing there thinking. I'll go down to San Francisco
00:39:53.620 --> 00:40:05.569 Susan Miller: and see if they'll have dinner with me in a very good restaurant in San Francisco. And they did, and coming down. You know I made it 2 days in advance. I think it was
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:11.380 Susan Miller: Wednesday we were meeting everybody's saying, Can I come? Can I come? Can I come.
00:40:11.850 --> 00:40:12.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Same
00:40:12.350 --> 00:40:19.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I feel in this life. There may be 5 people other than your parents who love you unconditionally, and they don't count on the 5 people
00:40:19.600 --> 00:40:20.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with that.
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:26.509 Susan Miller: Going to be 5 people you encounter in life that really care what happens to you. And Apple was one of them.
00:40:26.910 --> 00:40:46.259 Susan Miller: and I thought to myself, I'll pay for the 14 people for dinner. I'll figure it out. I'll put it on visa. I'll pay it off. I want them all to come if they want to come. I want them to come, and so I get there, and the the waiter says everybody's having champagne. Do you want? Oh, sure, I want champagne. But here's my credit card. Don't
00:40:46.420 --> 00:40:52.240 Susan Miller: let them pay, he said. You're too late, I said. How could that be? Not everybody's here they paid yesterday.
00:40:54.080 --> 00:41:05.489 Susan Miller: Look at, and Dan Marusiche is the person I had called, and he's 1 of the gang of 8 that brought Apple back, and he said, did you think we were gonna charge you for this? I'm like you keep getting it backwards. I'm trying to help you.
00:41:05.490 --> 00:41:05.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:27.579 Susan Miller: Oh, no, we we got to change this, and he was laughing, and at that dinner they said, Did you try, infoseek? And I said. I can't get through the switchboard. They think I'm a headhunter. Oh, no. All former apple people work there, and it's a search engine. A lot of viewers may be young and don't know. Infoseek was like Google.
00:41:27.580 --> 00:41:29.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I remember you first, st yeah.
00:41:29.500 --> 00:41:30.154 Susan Miller: And
00:41:31.020 --> 00:41:46.970 Susan Miller: I went out. I didn't. I don't know how to drive, as you know, but there's a Cal train that takes you there, and there's a taxi waiting there, you know, for anybody who wants one, and I had an amazing meeting, and it was the Friday before the Saturday, you know.
00:41:48.190 --> 00:41:49.270 Susan Miller: they said.
00:41:49.390 --> 00:42:00.690 Susan Miller: we are interested. We are interested in this, and and the Walt Disney Company was to buy them 4 weeks later. So I wound up working for the Walt Disney Company
00:42:01.160 --> 00:42:12.729 Susan Miller: 3 years, and I learned, I learned from both big companies from time Warner information management. The way you tell someone something when you have news for someone
00:42:13.220 --> 00:42:17.769 Susan Miller: twins like the worst thing you could say to someone you're not going to like this, you know.
00:42:18.850 --> 00:42:20.039 Susan Miller: Don't say that.
00:42:20.734 --> 00:42:29.089 Susan Miller: but you know, and and from Disney I learned the importance of very quick communication with the customer.
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:41.950 Susan Miller: you know, answering a question within 48 h, and I stayed with them another 3 years, and then I was ready to cut the cord. I was still doing the agent work for 6 years.
00:42:41.950 --> 00:42:43.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh!
00:42:43.460 --> 00:42:45.970 Susan Miller: The Internet at night.
00:42:46.110 --> 00:42:49.659 Susan Miller: And believe me, Sam, it was so hard in the beginning.
00:42:49.660 --> 00:42:50.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm sure.
00:42:50.140 --> 00:42:51.189 Susan Miller: I'm sure it's like.
00:42:51.190 --> 00:42:52.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Having 2 full time businesses.
00:42:52.780 --> 00:43:05.830 Susan Miller: Well, not only that, I mean there were no Laws people, my readers got to know my lexicon, and they said, We think this lady is using your material and putting her name on it, and I said nobody would do that.
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.460 Susan Miller: We'll go over and look, and sure enough.
00:43:08.650 --> 00:43:11.039 Susan Miller: and I had a Federal trademark, and
00:43:11.200 --> 00:43:13.250 Susan Miller: I know the whole 9 yards.
00:43:13.810 --> 00:43:19.100 Susan Miller: I have a lawyer. I did everything, but after 6 years I was on my own
00:43:19.240 --> 00:43:39.699 Susan Miller: hiring my own staff. But when Disney, when Disney couldn't, they felt that Michael Eisner said we shouldn't be in the Internet business. So we're cutting all contracts after they're over, you know, and I was one of them, and I was working out of Sunnyvale, you know. Once in a while I'd go there like every.
00:43:40.160 --> 00:43:42.749 Susan Miller: About every 3 months I would visit the team.
00:43:42.990 --> 00:43:47.520 Susan Miller: and now I was looking into the abyss again. It was 6 years in, and.
00:43:47.520 --> 00:43:48.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:59.340 Susan Miller: And I always pray, and I always ask God to give me a direction. I don't expect him to fix it for me. He's too busy with cancer patients and people, you know. But just
00:43:59.990 --> 00:44:01.453 Susan Miller: show me a clue.
00:44:01.820 --> 00:44:02.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:09.770 Susan Miller: And I opened my eyes. I'm sitting in the living room. I'm looking at the end of my website, and I love it so much, and
00:44:10.290 --> 00:44:13.910 Susan Miller: and I look down at the New York Times. That's the only thing on my
00:44:14.080 --> 00:44:30.309 Susan Miller: my coffee table. I don't know why. Usually there's flowers and art books or something. There was nothing else, and there was a headline near the fault, Stephen King making a fortune, and then turning over the paper in ebooks
00:44:30.430 --> 00:44:33.310 Susan Miller: as I could make more money than him in ebooks.
00:44:33.310 --> 00:44:34.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So like 400 bucks.
00:44:34.750 --> 00:44:44.409 Susan Miller: Do you want to do an ebook? And I said, No, no, it was at the birth of the ebooks. It was 2,001 and adobe.
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.730 Susan Miller: I'll tell the truth. They put their worst people on ebooks at the time.
00:44:48.730 --> 00:44:49.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They are.
00:44:49.240 --> 00:45:05.960 Susan Miller: And more. But they I mean ebooks, were so new, and nobody even knew if people would like them. Of course we do, but at the time it was hard, and the general public you had to do things it's not like. Now you go on, Amazon, and it flies through the air, and it won't.
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:26.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Susan, I need to interrupt you because we got to take our last break of the show, and I really want to get to your book the next 200 years, and see if you can give our audience just some sense, because of all the chaos going on right now from just an astrological perspective. What's happening and what to expect? Okay.
00:45:27.530 --> 00:45:38.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful. So everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now, awakening humanity. And we'll be right back to finish it all up with our guest, Susan Miller, of astrologyzone.com.
00:47:27.700 --> 00:47:34.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Susan, you've had an amazing career and an amazing life in general.
00:47:34.490 --> 00:47:54.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you've become so well known because of your dedication to astrology, and really wanting to help people. So I'm just curious in your book. The next 200 years I'm assuming you're talking about what's going to happen in the next 200 years on this planet.
00:47:54.220 --> 00:47:56.200 Susan Miller: Technologically, yes.
00:47:56.200 --> 00:48:09.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so I'm just wondering, because a lot of people I know are very frustrated, confused, angry at the chaos and the change and life in general just is changing by the minute, by the second.
00:48:09.990 --> 00:48:11.000 Susan Miller: It is.
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:19.259 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I'm just wondering, like, what have you seen in the stars that can maybe help us a little bit in dealing with all this.
00:48:19.560 --> 00:48:25.779 Susan Miller: As you know, we're coming up on our 200 and 50th anniversary of the United States next year.
00:48:25.780 --> 00:48:26.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:48:26.180 --> 00:48:31.565 Susan Miller: We'll see the tall ships and parades, and it'll be quite a year. But
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:57.071 Susan Miller: Astrologers were watching Pluto come back to where it was when we were born. Pluto is the horse on the outer rim, the precipice of our solar system, so he takes 248 years to go around the sun approximately so. He has an egg-shaped kind of orbit. So it.
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.529 Susan Miller: it, it's different, you know. Each.
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:09.529 Susan Miller: Each cycle he is causing the rebellion that you feel now. And
00:49:10.660 --> 00:49:19.833 Susan Miller: we knew it was coming, and that we would be kind of fighting with each other, it will end, it will end, and it will
00:49:20.420 --> 00:49:27.980 Susan Miller: become better. All the planets I have to tell you. I've never seen this before, but within 7 months
00:49:28.070 --> 00:49:55.810 Susan Miller: Pluto, Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, and Jupiter will change signs, or some have already changed signs. Jupiter is changing in June June 9, th for a full year. But Pluto is staying in Aquarius, the sign of the future. And that's why we're hearing so much about AI for the next 20 years and that until January
00:49:55.860 --> 00:50:03.110 Susan Miller: 2,044. It started last year. So you know.
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:10.796 Susan Miller: with all the planets leaving Earth signs which are and water. Earth is very
00:50:11.610 --> 00:50:14.260 Susan Miller: you know. Very stable, very.
00:50:14.260 --> 00:50:14.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well.
00:50:14.610 --> 00:50:35.439 Susan Miller: Traditional and patriarchal. And now, Aquarius, every sign on the wheel is opposite from the sign that came before. So when we had Pluto in Capricorn. The King or the President told us what to do. Aquarius flips that, and the people tell the President what they want him to do.
00:50:36.090 --> 00:50:40.362 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So you will get much more of an uprising and
00:50:41.140 --> 00:50:55.979 Susan Miller: And demonstrations, and people have to voice their their feelings. It's important to do that and to vote. People cannot say I don't like anybody. No, no, no, no, no, you can't. Well, in New York you're in New York, too, I think right.
00:50:55.980 --> 00:50:56.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:50:56.490 --> 00:50:59.320 Susan Miller: You're not allowed to complain unless you voted.
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right, exactly.
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:28.350 Susan Miller: All right, you know, and you learn from it, too. And you're you're involved in the public forum. Uranus is going into Gemini, which is very communicative. It's in Taurus right now. So Taurus is earth also, and Saturn, and we're going to see real breakthroughs in aviation. But lately aviation has been a little wackadoodle, right? I mean Liberty Airport, and.
00:51:28.350 --> 00:51:28.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Everything.
00:51:28.810 --> 00:51:53.389 Susan Miller: All the things going on. Saturn is moving into out of Pisces and into Aries of fire sign. Neptune's moving into a fire sign. So you get more mobility, less status on what you have, because Taurus is shopping tangible things it's and and air and fire are more.
00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:54.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Mental.
00:51:54.370 --> 00:52:03.960 Susan Miller: Intellectual. Yes, and it's what you know and what you contribute that will really matter most. That will be where you get your status from.
00:52:04.450 --> 00:52:04.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it does.
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:13.400 Susan Miller: No matter how you get it, whether you went to college or a trade school, or or you just, you know. I think Bill gates dropped out of school, and so did.
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:13.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:52:13.770 --> 00:52:27.899 Susan Miller: Steve Jobs. So it doesn't matter that part, you know. It didn't matter if you went to Yale or not. You know it's what you contribute. What's the bottom line here, you know, and how much you care about the rest, because I think we're all here to help each other.
00:52:27.900 --> 00:52:28.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know.
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:42.739 Susan Miller: We can't possibly know everything. So we need each other, you know. That's what I really learned staying in bed so much. It's hard to ask your mother to get your crayons when you're little, but you learn quickly. You can't do it yourself.
00:52:42.740 --> 00:52:43.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: -
00:52:43.510 --> 00:52:48.800 Susan Miller: The AI is both wonderful and terrifying.
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:49.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:52:49.370 --> 00:52:58.859 Susan Miller: I mean, the Scammers are going to go to town with it, and you know so, and they're getting better. But we need to build laws, and I think
00:52:59.030 --> 00:53:21.849 Susan Miller: Congress has to go to school on AI. I mean, I think they have to learn more. I think we all do. You know I use chat, gpt, to look things up, but I'm never using AI to write my columns. I have my own style, and I enjoy it. I like doing it, and I'm not going to use AI and a lot of my competitors are. But then they start sounding alike.
00:53:21.850 --> 00:53:22.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:53:23.200 --> 00:53:25.249 Susan Miller: So. No, you can't do it that way.
00:53:25.250 --> 00:53:37.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No, I'm with you. I write my own blog post every week. I don't use AI for it. And yeah, I mean, it's 1 of my joys, because I love just letting the stuff flow through me.
00:53:37.060 --> 00:53:38.449 Susan Miller: Are you a gemini.
00:53:38.610 --> 00:53:48.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I am right on the cusp between Aquarius and Pisces. I'm 1 degree into Pisces, but I have an Aquarius stellum. I have like 5 planets in Aquarius.
00:53:48.360 --> 00:54:00.799 Susan Miller: Oh, you were born that year! My mother told me someone brilliant would be born that year with so much Aquarius, and they would have their eye on the future and bring the future to us. Yeah, so that you're one of those people.
00:54:03.070 --> 00:54:14.169 Susan Miller: So. No, it's it's pretty exciting. What's coming. There will be a change now. I think there's too much change in Washington right now, too fast, too too furiously. And
00:54:14.380 --> 00:54:15.279 Susan Miller: you know,
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:24.949 Susan Miller: I think that people have to have the courage to say no in government, and and stop some of this from being a racing car. You know, we have to.
00:54:24.950 --> 00:54:25.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:54:26.038 --> 00:54:31.969 Susan Miller: I think that the people IA lot of people, don't follow the news. I do. But.
00:54:32.984 --> 00:54:51.220 Susan Miller: I think when they start seeing prices go up across the board, they'll start to wait. What's happening here? It will really hit home, and it's coming. It's coming within a month or 2. I think that's when there will be, you know, some some balance put back into things.
00:54:51.220 --> 00:54:51.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful.
00:54:51.730 --> 00:54:57.459 Susan Miller: So, yeah, I think so. You know, the United States is cancer.
00:54:57.680 --> 00:54:58.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is, more.
00:54:58.020 --> 00:55:19.580 Susan Miller: On the 4th of July and Jupiter this week is going into cancer, and it will be the luckiest time of the year of the luckiest year of their life for cancer. And that means the United States is going into a good period. So
00:55:19.890 --> 00:55:27.209 Susan Miller: hang on. I think things will balance out. You know I'm of of course I'm the optimist.
00:55:29.211 --> 00:55:33.550 Susan Miller: you know, but I I do believe that it will get better.
00:55:33.550 --> 00:55:34.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because.
00:55:34.060 --> 00:55:44.850 Susan Miller: Of that, and we're going into a lot of prosperity the year after that. But I don't think these tariffs are going to work, and I think we're going to have to. You know.
00:55:45.340 --> 00:55:51.819 Susan Miller: temper that some terrorists, but not everybody. And I don't like fighting with Canada.
00:55:52.060 --> 00:55:55.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, I know. I know, Susan. Unfortunately.
00:55:55.540 --> 00:55:56.190 Susan Miller: People.
00:55:56.190 --> 00:56:05.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Unfortunately, we're out of time. I wish I had a 3 h program. I could definitely talk to you for 3 h. No problem. Unfortunately, I only have an hour.
00:56:05.310 --> 00:56:07.669 Susan Miller: So special. Thank you for having me.
00:56:07.670 --> 00:56:11.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you. Thank you for coming on. If people want to learn more about you, get in touch with you.
00:56:12.070 --> 00:56:31.230 Susan Miller: Yes, Susan miller@astrologyzone.com and read my my June forecast. I think you'll like it. I write in a conversational style, not encyclopedia kind of style. It's much warmer and give me feedback, as my mother used to say. It's so important.
00:56:31.230 --> 00:56:32.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Absolutely, absolutely.
00:56:32.470 --> 00:56:34.060 Susan Miller: To get to media.
00:56:34.060 --> 00:56:38.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I would love to get together sometime, since you're right across the park from me. So.
00:56:38.120 --> 00:56:39.390 Susan Miller: Hello. Yes.
00:56:39.390 --> 00:56:41.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We we should definitely meet up sometime.
00:56:41.070 --> 00:56:42.699 Susan Miller: We'll make that happen.
00:56:42.700 --> 00:57:08.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful. So thank you so much for taking the time to come on the show. I really appreciate you, Susan, and of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in each week. Without you there is no show. And just remember, if you missed any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on Talkradio dot Nyc on all your favorite podcasting platforms and all the social media, Youtube, Facebook, Twitter Linkedin Twitch, whichever you like to consume your content on.
00:57:08.680 --> 00:57:27.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And don't forget later today, at 5 Pm. Eastern time, is Frank Harrison in a show, Frank, about health, followed by our dynamic trio with serving up success with a splash at 6 Pm. Learn about their favorite cocktail this week. Thank you all for tuning in. We will talk to you all next week.
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