EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Award-Winning Author, International Speaker and Leadership Coach, M. Teresa Lawrence.
Teresa is the founder and president of the Trueness Project, a non-profit dedicated to empowering children and adults to cherish their imagination and own their power to write their own narratives.
As part of her mission, Teresa is donating her award-winning transformational children’s book GLORIOUSNESS to disadvantaged children throughout the world.
In 2023, Teresa participated in the Kenya Kenynote Speakers Tour and had the privilege of speaking extensively about the need to teach leadership and wealth consciousness in schools. During that trip, Teresa mentored over 12,000 Kenyan students.
For her philanthropic work and vision, Teresa received an honorary doctorate in Kenya for her humanitarian work in community building and advocacy.
Teresa is also the co-author of The Power of Leadership where she discusses the power of the “Leadership of Play.” It is about living life outside the box, finding joy in simple acts of kindness, and believing in the power of imagination.
She is presently working on the Grand Butterfly Gathering scheduled for June 29, 2024 where her nonprofit will host the largest number of people dressed as butterflies in history both in person and virtually.
Teresa has been featured in the San Francisco Post, the California Observer, World Reporter and Scholar Media Africa.
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Segment 1
On this episode of The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is joined by award-winning author, international speaker, and leadership coach, M. Teresa Lawrence. They will discuss her work amongst other topics such as her nonprofit event, the Grand Butterfly Gathering. To start the episode, Sam reads one of his blog posts, “We Can Find Freedom Within Responsibility.” As always, to view this blog post and for more content by Sam, please visit www.talkradio.nyc/blogs or www.theconsciousconsultanthour.com for more details. Then, we are given a formal introduction to Teresa and finish the segment by discussing a little bit about the Grand Butterfly Gathering and why Teresa decided to come up with this event.
Segment 2
After the first break, we return to Sam and Teresa discussing why Teresa was interested in being a philanthropist, which is someone who is dedicated to helping others. Teresa dives into her story which started during the pandemic and how her childhood ties into why she wants to help others and share her story. Teresa then goes on to tell the origin of her book, “Gloriousness,” what the book is about, and how her book provided her with opportunities to speak about the book on a global scale. Sam then asks Teresa about The Trueness Project, specifically what it is and what it's meant to do for others.
Segment 3
Moving forward in the discussion, Sam asks Teresa about her second book that she co-authored, “The Power of Leadership,” and what was the reason behind writing it. The book primarily discusses that everyone can be a leader and learn from the success stories of other individuals. Teresa then goes on to share one of the stories she submitted for the book and how that story was a life-changing moment for her.
Segment 4
As the episode comes to a close, Sam and Teresa finish their conversation by talking about the leadership of play and why Teresa encourages others to “dress up” like children would when they play pretend. Teresa then explains how the Grand Butterfly Gathering is both an in-person and virtual event, how the march came about, what the event will entail, and how important this event is to her. To learn more about M. Teresa’s work, please visit https://yourtrueness.org/ for more details. If interested in participating in the Grand Butterfly Gathering, please visit https://butterflymarch.com/ for more details about the event and for registration.
00:00:39.900 --> 00:01:04.822 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We have a wonderful show in store for you with a fascinating guest. I'm sure you're going to love her. But first.
00:01:05.420 --> 00:01:14.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of course, we have my blog post from a couple of years ago, just picking them in order, and today's post is entitled.
00:01:15.250 --> 00:01:19.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can find freedom within responsibility.
00:01:21.710 --> 00:01:25.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Responsibility does not have to be heavy.
00:01:25.600 --> 00:01:29.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: does not have to feel like a weight on your shoulders.
00:01:30.210 --> 00:01:34.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can find a better way to approach responsibility.
00:01:35.290 --> 00:01:39.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we learn not to treat it as an obligation.
00:01:40.220 --> 00:01:44.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it does not matter if it is a responsibility to family
00:01:44.980 --> 00:01:46.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: friends, pets.
00:01:47.030 --> 00:01:48.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or coworkers.
00:01:49.530 --> 00:01:53.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Perhaps we feel the responsibility of our employees
00:01:53.220 --> 00:01:54.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or customers
00:01:55.460 --> 00:02:04.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in the end. It is not about what me in the end it's not about what we must do for another person.
00:02:04.530 --> 00:02:06.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is about how we show up
00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:11.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and how we show up is about the perspective we take.
00:02:13.040 --> 00:02:15.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Is it a burden to care for another?
00:02:16.230 --> 00:02:17.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or is it a privilege?
00:02:19.570 --> 00:02:25.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are we forced into our responsibilities, or are they a choice.
00:02:26.090 --> 00:02:30.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: after all? We could decide to just give it all up and run away
00:02:31.130 --> 00:02:32.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or become a monk.
00:02:33.170 --> 00:02:38.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are many ways to get away from responsibility to others.
00:02:39.720 --> 00:02:41.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So if we stay.
00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:46.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: why that stay with an attitude that supports us.
00:02:48.410 --> 00:02:54.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The stories we make up about responsibility is what causes the heaviness
00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:55.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to exist.
00:02:56.970 --> 00:03:01.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What if, instead of making a story of burden and obligation.
00:03:01.370 --> 00:03:03.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We make it a story of honor
00:03:04.260 --> 00:03:05.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or in privilege.
00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:10.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can we find a way to change the narrative
00:03:10.990 --> 00:03:14.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: from one of something we must do
00:03:14.780 --> 00:03:17.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to something we get to do.
00:03:18.670 --> 00:03:21.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a simple switch of perspective.
00:03:22.150 --> 00:03:28.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet it can be a profound difference in how we feel about the situation.
00:03:29.440 --> 00:03:33.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Being responsible is not about taking on a heavy load.
00:03:34.750 --> 00:03:37.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is about choosing to be the person
00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who finds joy in the commitment.
00:03:41.590 --> 00:03:46.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, some situations are more challenging than others.
00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet ultimately the biggest challenge is to switch
00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:54.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: our perspective and our story around it.
00:03:55.570 --> 00:03:59.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: For when we find a way to make it something that brings us
00:04:00.750 --> 00:04:09.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: brings us up. Instead of weighing us down, we will find tremendous freedom within our responsibilities.
00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:14.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So where are you feeling the weight of responsibility.
00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:18.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How can you turn it around to see it as something
00:04:18.990 --> 00:04:21.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: uplifting instead of
00:04:21.290 --> 00:04:22.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: burdensome?
00:04:24.950 --> 00:04:25.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:04:26.150 --> 00:04:30.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: this blog post again I wrote these a couple of years ago.
00:04:31.162 --> 00:04:34.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was actually reflecting on this
00:04:34.760 --> 00:04:37.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on an insight I got
00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:41.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: several years before in a ceremony.
00:04:43.614 --> 00:04:47.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I think what? What the reason why I
00:04:47.100 --> 00:04:51.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: pick this to write about it a couple of years ago.
00:04:51.482 --> 00:04:54.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: was because of something that someone had come up.
00:04:54.900 --> 00:04:57.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who I was working with.
00:04:57.400 --> 00:05:01.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: where they felt this heavy burden of responsibility.
00:05:03.080 --> 00:05:06.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so it reminded me of this insight
00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:11.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and in this insight, in this ceremony
00:05:11.540 --> 00:05:13.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was reflecting on
00:05:14.590 --> 00:05:22.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: something that I had done early in my life. I was taking care of a friend of mine supporting him.
00:05:23.159 --> 00:05:30.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Who was not well, he was schizophrenic. He wasn't able to work. This was, I was in college and just after college at the time.
00:05:33.150 --> 00:05:35.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it was challenging. It was difficult.
00:05:36.457 --> 00:05:42.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I grew a lot from the situation. But it it was really really hard.
00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:45.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And
00:05:45.410 --> 00:05:49.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was reflecting on this in this ceremony a few years ago. This is.
00:05:49.410 --> 00:05:51.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, decades after.
00:05:55.450 --> 00:05:58.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I realized that
00:05:58.970 --> 00:06:04.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: taking care of another human being does not have to be a burden. It is actually a privilege
00:06:05.210 --> 00:06:08.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to support someone, to help someone to really
00:06:09.110 --> 00:06:13.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: be there for someone like that when nobody else is.
00:06:16.410 --> 00:06:17.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so
00:06:18.780 --> 00:06:20.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it was a very
00:06:20.500 --> 00:06:24.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kind of difficult perspective perspective for me to adopt.
00:06:26.210 --> 00:06:30.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because the challenges around the whole situation and
00:06:30.990 --> 00:06:40.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the the difficulties I had living with someone who's a schizophrenic. And if you've never lived with someone with a mental illness. You have no idea how challenging it is.
00:06:44.350 --> 00:06:48.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But once I was able to make that shift internally.
00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:50.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Woodside was able to
00:06:50.760 --> 00:06:54.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: look at it as a privilege as opposed to a birded.
00:06:54.910 --> 00:06:58.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The weight of it lightened
00:06:58.350 --> 00:07:03.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the the energy around. It wasn't so severe.
00:07:04.420 --> 00:07:06.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so I learned a lot. From that
00:07:08.320 --> 00:07:09.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I learned that
00:07:10.750 --> 00:07:13.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we don't have to.
00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:16.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Everything's such heavy weights.
00:07:19.280 --> 00:07:21.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And what is it that makes the difference?
00:07:21.710 --> 00:07:24.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What? What makes that flip
00:07:24.520 --> 00:07:28.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: from a heavy weight to a privilege, to something light.
00:07:28.610 --> 00:07:34.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it's really all about our perspective. It's about that story that we make up
00:07:35.320 --> 00:07:38.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: around whatever it is we experienced.
00:07:41.450 --> 00:07:44.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because either we're making a story
00:07:44.580 --> 00:07:47.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's supportive that's helpful.
00:07:47.630 --> 00:07:48.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that
00:07:48.610 --> 00:07:55.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that empowers us or we're making a story that disempowers us, that weighs us down
00:07:55.460 --> 00:07:56.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: causes us
00:07:57.340 --> 00:07:58.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to feel
00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:00.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: heavy.
00:08:02.470 --> 00:08:05.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I know it's not easy to change the story.
00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:07.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: especially when the
00:08:07.970 --> 00:08:11.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: challenge we've been through has been so difficult.
00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But, speaking from personal experience.
00:08:17.760 --> 00:08:19.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it is possible.
00:08:21.110 --> 00:08:26.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and if we're willing to be open and be flexible enough in our thinking
00:08:26.510 --> 00:08:28.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and how we view things.
00:08:28.950 --> 00:08:31.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it can really change our life.
00:08:32.950 --> 00:08:35.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to me that was really the core
00:08:36.100 --> 00:08:38.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: message in this lesson.
00:08:41.460 --> 00:08:44.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to be mindful of the stories that we make up
00:08:45.740 --> 00:08:47.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: around
00:08:48.250 --> 00:08:50.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: these things, we experience in our life.
00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:58.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because here's the thing. These stories are all made up. They're all made up in our mind.
00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:06.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We we we give something a certain meaning, and we hold on to that meeting. We make all kinds of stories around that meaning.
00:09:08.400 --> 00:09:09.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But the truth is.
00:09:09.870 --> 00:09:15.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can make up a completely different story that has a completely different meaning behind it.
00:09:16.310 --> 00:09:19.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And by changing that meaning
00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:27.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we change the whole energy around the situation. We change our whole perspective around it. We change how we show up.
00:09:28.020 --> 00:09:29.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that's
00:09:29.310 --> 00:09:30.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's the key.
00:09:30.970 --> 00:09:34.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We change how we show up in our life.
00:09:35.350 --> 00:09:37.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's so much
00:09:37.740 --> 00:09:38.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: hour
00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:43.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in crafting
00:09:43.280 --> 00:09:45.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the stories
00:09:45.700 --> 00:09:50.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in a way that serves us, and not a way that disempowers us.
00:09:50.950 --> 00:09:57.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is, I feel, one of the most vital skills that we, as human beings
00:09:58.380 --> 00:09:59.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: can learn.
00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:06.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post for this week.
00:10:06.170 --> 00:10:07.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's entitled.
00:10:07.560 --> 00:10:11.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We can find freedom within responsibility.
00:10:11.790 --> 00:10:22.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And of course you can find my blog on talk radio, dot, NYC. Slash blog. And of course, on my personal branded website, the conscious consult hour.com
00:10:24.650 --> 00:10:42.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I hope you like that, and I do see loyal listener Patty checking in from the road she's traveling, traveling hot, she says. Passing through Missouri, listening and sharing. Thank you, Patty. Always appreciate your sharing.
00:10:43.810 --> 00:10:49.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. So now it is my pleasure
00:10:49.290 --> 00:10:51.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to welcome to the show
00:10:52.650 --> 00:10:57.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: award winning author, international speaker in leadership. Coach.
00:10:58.670 --> 00:11:01.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: M. Teresa Lawrence!
00:11:05.780 --> 00:11:08.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Teresa is the founder and president
00:11:08.650 --> 00:11:18.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of the Truunis project, a nonprofit dedicated to empowering children and adults to cherish their imagination and own their power to write their narratives
00:11:19.150 --> 00:11:29.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: as a part of her mission. Teresa is donating her award-winning, transformational children's book gloriousness to disadvantaged children throughout the world, and there it is.
00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:48.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In 2023 Teresa participated in the Kenya keynote speakers, tour, and had the privilege of speaking extensively about the need to teach leadership and wealth consciousness in schools. During that trip Teresa mentored over 12,000 Kenyan students
00:11:49.060 --> 00:11:59.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for philanthropic work and vision. Teresa received an honorary doctorate in Kenya for her humanitarian work in community building and advocacy.
00:11:59.970 --> 00:12:09.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Teresa is also the co-author of the power of leadership, where she discusses the power of the leadership of play. And there it is.
00:12:09.740 --> 00:12:38.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which is what this title of this episode is the leadership of play. It is about living life outside the box, finding finding joy and simple acts of kindness, and believing in the power of imagination, she is presently working on the grand butterfly gathering which we'll get to, scheduled for June 20 ninth, where her nonprofit will host the largest number of people dressed as butterflies in history, both in person and virtually
00:12:38.210 --> 00:12:46.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Teresa has been featured in the San Francisco Post. The California Observer, world reporter, and scholar, Media, Africa.
00:12:46.620 --> 00:12:49.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Welcome to the conscious consultant hour. Teresa.
00:12:49.980 --> 00:12:55.340 M Teresa Lawrence: Thank you so much for having me. It's such a pleasure to share my story with you all.
00:12:55.340 --> 00:13:02.005 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right. It's a pleasure to have you into in in full regalia. I see today.
00:13:02.450 --> 00:13:28.559 M Teresa Lawrence: Well, I am dressed as a butterfly, or I have my butterfly outfits, because on June 20 ninth I really am having and hosting the largest gathering of people dressed as butterflies in history. It is an event that will engage people in going outside their comfort zone. There are many people that find dressing up as a butterfly embarrassing.
00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:39.730 M Teresa Lawrence: and but but your blog post was so on point, because the whole point of my nonprofit is to empower children and adults with the leadership of play
00:13:39.890 --> 00:13:42.430 M Teresa Lawrence: to share their stories.
00:13:42.730 --> 00:13:43.950 M Teresa Lawrence: and
00:13:44.190 --> 00:13:53.039 M Teresa Lawrence: the event is a way of getting people to get outside of their comfort zone, to share in community and realize. Hey.
00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:59.919 M Teresa Lawrence: you know, I get to be who I really want to be, and it's and the butterfly is the symbol of transformation.
00:14:00.472 --> 00:14:15.319 M Teresa Lawrence: And so we, we're all constantly transforming. And the event is a celebration of transformation. It is also a worldwide prayer for peace, because I believe that in transformation.
00:14:15.900 --> 00:14:18.900 M Teresa Lawrence: In finding our truth we find peace.
00:14:19.380 --> 00:14:30.609 M Teresa Lawrence: and truth is our path to peace. So that's what I'm up to on June 20, ninth. And I'm sure as we go on I'll share more about it, because it's really really cool.
00:14:30.930 --> 00:14:40.028 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll we'll get to that. But there's a lot about your journey and your background I would like to touch upon. But first we're gonna take a quick break
00:14:40.630 --> 00:15:02.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so everybody, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one pm, eastern time, right here on talk, radio, Nyc and all over social media on Youtube and Facebook and Twitter and Linkedin and twitch, and we'll be right back with our guest, M. Teresa Lawrence, in just a moment.
00:17:18.540 --> 00:17:25.721 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious consultant our awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with M. Teresa Lawrence.
00:17:26.349 --> 00:17:29.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: President, founder of the Trunus Project. So
00:17:30.110 --> 00:17:37.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I do see loyalistness and I on Youtube saying she loves the butterflies today with a big heart. Thank you, Sonia.
00:17:38.003 --> 00:17:39.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Teresa.
00:17:39.710 --> 00:17:57.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how did you get into being such a a philanthropist. How did you? You know your life is very much dedicated to helping other people, and you know that's not overly common these days. So I'm just curious, like, what brought you on the path.
00:17:57.490 --> 00:18:03.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to to bring you to such a open-hearted endeavors.
00:18:04.310 --> 00:18:08.780 M Teresa Lawrence: Well, it all started with Covid when I saw the children on the border.
00:18:09.302 --> 00:18:31.559 M Teresa Lawrence: When I saw these immigrants on the border, and I realized I needed to do something to help those children. And then there were children displaced by war, and I realized they needed. I mean, there were. There were so many children that were displaced, and my heart was going out to them. Because I'm an immigrant. I'm a Cuban refugee, and when I was
00:18:32.740 --> 00:18:46.280 M Teresa Lawrence: about 2 and a half. My father taught medicine at the University of Havana, and the Communist National Anthem was being played during during some sort of meeting, and he didn't believe in Communism, so he didn't stand up.
00:18:46.330 --> 00:18:47.530 M Teresa Lawrence: And
00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.369 M Teresa Lawrence: right after the meeting everybody turned to him and said, You don't belong here.
00:18:52.704 --> 00:18:57.269 M Teresa Lawrence: You don't think as we do, and within a week he had lost his job.
00:18:57.410 --> 00:19:20.130 M Teresa Lawrence: Our house was taken away from us. He was then put in prison. My mother lost her job, so I know what it's like to be a child and see everything taken from a child. And then what happened after that was you know my father had a choice. In that moment his story. He could have been a victim and decided to stay
00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:23.980 M Teresa Lawrence: in Cuba, but he said, no, I have an education.
00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:46.539 M Teresa Lawrence: and I have a vision of of being a doctor, and these people are not those weren't his words. He had different words, these people are not going to take away my dream. And so he petitioned to leave the country and and then I'm the youngest of 4 children, and we we left.
00:19:46.800 --> 00:19:56.759 M Teresa Lawrence: but but during the process of leaving it was very painful, because you'd go to the airport, and then they would stop you, and they would take anything that you had with you. Away.
00:19:57.645 --> 00:20:22.859 M Teresa Lawrence: And on the final attempt my grandmother gave me a doll, and it was a gift that really changed my life because she said, no matter what happens to you. This my grandmother was completely uneducated woman, but that woman understood the power of story, and she knew that ultimately we were all gonna be separated because nobody could take in a family of 6, and she gave me that doll. And she said, You tell your story
00:20:22.860 --> 00:20:33.001 M Teresa Lawrence: anything that happens to you. You tell the story to this doll, and you make sure that the ending is glorious, and hence the name of the book. Gloriousness.
00:20:33.340 --> 00:20:56.079 M Teresa Lawrence: But I took that doll, and when we got to the Us. We all we all separated, and I ended up living. You know, with family. I I'd never met, and I was 3, and I was terrified. And so I kept telling stories to the doll and crying to the doll, and till I figured out I didn't need the doll that it was the story, and it didn't take that long for me to master that
00:20:57.015 --> 00:20:57.880 M Teresa Lawrence: and
00:20:58.610 --> 00:21:01.130 M Teresa Lawrence: that really changed my life
00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:03.260 M Teresa Lawrence: because it empowered me
00:21:03.340 --> 00:21:06.109 M Teresa Lawrence: to know that words have power.
00:21:06.330 --> 00:21:22.800 M Teresa Lawrence: and that if I use them correctly, I can be the master of my destiny, and I did pretty well cause I ended up at Columbia Law School, and I use those word skills along the way. But when I saw the children on the border.
00:21:22.840 --> 00:21:32.829 M Teresa Lawrence: I went, and it was covid time. So we're all at home, you know, figuring out what we're going to do. And I said, I'm at a point in my life where I want to give back.
00:21:32.910 --> 00:21:40.559 M Teresa Lawrence: and I have a story that's worth telling that's going to help people. And so I wrote my little book
00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:42.100 M Teresa Lawrence: Gloriousness.
00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:47.066 M Teresa Lawrence: and I was on a mission to give it out all over the world. And
00:21:48.230 --> 00:21:50.369 M Teresa Lawrence: The first place I went was Kenya.
00:21:50.870 --> 00:21:54.690 M Teresa Lawrence: and when I got there I fell in love with the country.
00:21:54.940 --> 00:22:12.809 M Teresa Lawrence: with the people, and I realized that my story resonated with a lot of those children because they, too, were, I mean, several several of the schools I visited with the children were refugee children. They were coming from war, torn countries, and they
00:22:12.980 --> 00:22:18.720 M Teresa Lawrence: or or their parents, just, you know, couldn't afford to have them. And and
00:22:18.740 --> 00:22:23.479 M Teresa Lawrence: you know th these feelings of abandonment and and betrayal
00:22:23.510 --> 00:22:26.569 M Teresa Lawrence: they're they're all stories, you know, because
00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:32.250 M Teresa Lawrence: what we, what we do with what happens to us determines our outcome.
00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:40.530 M Teresa Lawrence: And if we keep living in the past, we're going to keep victimizing ourselves. And there's no point in living in the future, because all we have is now. So
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.420 M Teresa Lawrence: so that's that's my story of how that that started.
00:22:45.950 --> 00:22:47.757 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No, and and
00:22:48.650 --> 00:22:54.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and why don't you just briefly tell the audience what is the the book? Gloriousness about.
00:22:55.320 --> 00:22:58.760 M Teresa Lawrence: The main character in the book is called Ness.
00:22:58.780 --> 00:23:05.057 M Teresa Lawrence: and when the book starts it's much like all of our journeys. She's a very messiness.
00:23:05.650 --> 00:23:06.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Listen.
00:23:07.390 --> 00:23:13.740 M Teresa Lawrence: And she runs to her mother. And she she she says, you know I
00:23:13.890 --> 00:23:15.609 M Teresa Lawrence: I don't feel happy.
00:23:16.089 --> 00:23:24.189 M Teresa Lawrence: What should I do? You know who who should I be? And her mother turns to her and says, you're the only one that can figure that out.
00:23:24.430 --> 00:23:51.100 M Teresa Lawrence: Go, figure that out and let me know. And so the character goes to her room and and starts writing out all the different things she could possibly be, you know, and she goes to messiness, creativeness. You know. Peacefulness, coolness. She she goes through a whole list of characters that children can play out. You know there are all these different outfits in there and
00:23:51.100 --> 00:23:55.249 M Teresa Lawrence: children enjoy cosplay. And so in that process.
00:23:55.340 --> 00:24:09.139 M Teresa Lawrence: each child gets to figure out, well, who am I gonna be today, and at the end she calls Nas. Calls her mother into the room and says, I figured it out and she dresses up this crazy outfit and she goes. I'm gonna be gloriousness.
00:24:10.350 --> 00:24:16.800 M Teresa Lawrence: So it's it's really helping the children process their emotions, saying, you know, let's let's play.
00:24:16.900 --> 00:24:19.659 M Teresa Lawrence: Let's let's let's let's see
00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:25.579 M Teresa Lawrence: what it is that I'm feeling, and why I'm feeling it. And let's go through this and decide.
00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:33.999 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm! Sounds like such an important lesson for children today, one that you and I well, I mean, maybe you learned it. I never learned this as a child.
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.710 M Teresa Lawrence: No, no, children don't learn it. They.
00:24:35.710 --> 00:24:36.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, just.
00:24:36.350 --> 00:24:45.000 M Teresa Lawrence: Think that there's something wrong with them, and they're they're they're meant to be depressed. But they're not. Emotions are are emotions. Only ask one thing to be felt.
00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:46.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right exactly. And if you.
00:24:46.570 --> 00:24:50.509 M Teresa Lawrence: Allow them to be felt. They'll they'll just go straight through.
00:24:51.590 --> 00:24:58.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so I'm curious about the Truunis project. What is the Truunis project? And why did you start it?
00:24:59.310 --> 00:25:06.640 M Teresa Lawrence: Well, I wanted to give away my books everywhere, and I felt that a nonprofit was my vehicle.
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:07.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But.
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:17.550 M Teresa Lawrence: But that led me to a greater mission. The Trueness project. Its mission is to inspire truth, integrity, and authenticity
00:25:17.590 --> 00:25:21.749 M Teresa Lawrence: in all aspects of life, especially through storytelling.
00:25:22.020 --> 00:25:24.270 M Teresa Lawrence: because it's all about story
00:25:24.410 --> 00:25:25.370 M Teresa Lawrence: and
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:31.440 M Teresa Lawrence: When we are in integrity with ourselves, when we're living our truth.
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:34.859 M Teresa Lawrence: then we we produce
00:25:35.410 --> 00:25:48.130 M Teresa Lawrence: happier results. And I mentor students all over the world, and they keep asking me, what's this integrity thing all about? I said. You can't lead people if you don't know who you are.
00:25:48.130 --> 00:25:48.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:25:48.790 --> 00:26:16.860 M Teresa Lawrence: You must be in truth, and when you teach future leaders to live in truth, you're teaching them to live in authenticity and to lead from a place of integrity and power. And so the trueness project is about storytelling. It's about the power of self storytelling and helping people live in their authentic truth. That's why the butter, like my logo, is a butterfly, because it takes true
00:26:17.120 --> 00:26:18.060 M Teresa Lawrence: self
00:26:18.910 --> 00:26:23.330 M Teresa Lawrence: reflection and introspection to discover.
00:26:23.520 --> 00:26:26.010 M Teresa Lawrence: Why do I believe, as I believe.
00:26:26.250 --> 00:26:29.059 M Teresa Lawrence: Why do I think that person is wrong?
00:26:29.300 --> 00:26:30.779 M Teresa Lawrence: Maybe they're not wrong
00:26:31.030 --> 00:26:34.530 M Teresa Lawrence: you you must be in a state of curiosity
00:26:34.730 --> 00:26:37.850 M Teresa Lawrence: and in a state of of
00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:39.250 M Teresa Lawrence: openness
00:26:39.410 --> 00:26:53.119 M Teresa Lawrence: for the opportunity to change. And the Trunus project. Yes, it's about story, but it's really about transformation and discovering your Trunus so that you can share it with the world.
00:26:53.630 --> 00:26:55.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Gotcha gotcha
00:26:55.460 --> 00:26:57.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: got you and and
00:26:57.675 --> 00:27:00.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and when did you come out with the book.
00:27:00.840 --> 00:27:04.067 M Teresa Lawrence: The this gloriousness came out last May.
00:27:04.990 --> 00:27:05.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay.
00:27:06.005 --> 00:27:18.659 M Teresa Lawrence: And as a result, I you know, when I went to Kenya I gave out so many books, and it was so fun reading to the kids, especially in the Maasai village. The kids sat down and read it, and it was. It was fantastic.
00:27:18.750 --> 00:27:32.949 M Teresa Lawrence: absolutely fantastic. I fell in love with all of those children. And it's my goal really like, I've been sending shipping the book to different countries, but it's my goal to visit countries and to visit orphanages, and to give out the book.
00:27:33.230 --> 00:27:35.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!
00:27:36.620 --> 00:27:42.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm curious like you spent a lot of time in Kenya. You did amazing work.
00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:49.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I'm wondering if afterwards have you ever heard back from people who got the book? Parents, maybe, who got the book.
00:27:49.060 --> 00:27:49.650 M Teresa Lawrence: Yes.
00:27:49.650 --> 00:27:51.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Would help their child.
00:27:51.981 --> 00:28:12.178 M Teresa Lawrence: I have heard from many of these kids, and they they love the book they they've been acting out the book. And what's interesting is because the Trunus project now has a whole team in Kenya that are going. Oh, I am totally a ness, thank you.
00:28:12.560 --> 00:28:16.575 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Loyal listener. Sonia says, I'm totally a nass. Yes, you are, Sonia.
00:28:16.910 --> 00:28:46.569 M Teresa Lawrence: We're all ness. We're all in that process of transformation. But what I was gonna say is, I have a whole team of people that go out and mentor students. And so when we can, we give out the books. And now what we're doing is we're giving out butterfly outfits to symbolize transformation. Because I'm trying to have my butterfly event be global. And it's beautiful to see people first. They're a little, you know, taken aback and they go. Why, the butterfly and I go because we're all butterflies.
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful, beautiful, beautiful!
00:28:52.060 --> 00:29:08.563 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright. I I wanna get to your book the power of leadership cause I really wanna do talk about the leadership of play, and then that'll lead us back around to to why the event and why doing this? But we're gonna take another break real quick.
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So when we come back, we're going to talk about the power of leadership
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:21.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and how that book came about, and who that's written for, and then let's talk about the the leadership of play. Okay, Teresa.
00:29:21.450 --> 00:29:22.030 M Teresa Lawrence: And okay.
00:29:22.970 --> 00:29:33.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consulting hour awakening humanity, and we'll be right back with our guest, Teresa Lawrence in just a moment.
00:31:39.690 --> 00:31:53.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious consultant our awakening humanity. So, Teresa, besides gloriousness, you've also written another book, The power of Leadership. So I'm curious how that book came about.
00:31:54.010 --> 00:32:01.700 M Teresa Lawrence: Well, I'm very passionate about education and changing the education system. And
00:32:02.280 --> 00:32:15.300 M Teresa Lawrence: my my belief and my experience is that children are graduating or adults are graduating from college or university, and they have all of these skills.
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:28.389 M Teresa Lawrence: And yet they do not know how to balance a checkbook. They do not know how to handle money. They don't know how to run a business. And they they lack the leadership skills to create
00:32:29.141 --> 00:32:35.460 M Teresa Lawrence: new businesses, I mean, yes, there are entrepreneurs that figure it out. But as a general matter.
00:32:35.550 --> 00:32:39.029 M Teresa Lawrence: people, you can have a lot of education and do nothing.
00:32:39.150 --> 00:32:41.480 M Teresa Lawrence: Yeah. And leadership
00:32:42.100 --> 00:32:43.530 M Teresa Lawrence: teaches people
00:32:43.630 --> 00:32:46.019 M Teresa Lawrence: how to set goals.
00:32:46.370 --> 00:33:02.000 M Teresa Lawrence: take definite steps towards an action and move forward. And it's not being taught in schools, and it was driving me crazy. I believe you know, books like Think and grow rich. And ray Dalio's principles.
00:33:02.130 --> 00:33:25.679 M Teresa Lawrence: Th, those books must be taught. And I was on a I was just like, okay, what's the best way to to get the word out there? And it's really the importance of leadership. And because I'm so enamored with children and their ability to to make new friends and learn new concepts while they're playing on a playground.
00:33:25.870 --> 00:33:28.779 M Teresa Lawrence: It occurred to me that the best way
00:33:28.930 --> 00:33:36.330 M Teresa Lawrence: for adults to learn was to bring them back to childhood to say, You know, it's okay.
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.179 M Teresa Lawrence: You can still dream
00:33:38.210 --> 00:33:46.450 M Teresa Lawrence: whatever filters were put on you while you were going through school, saying, you can't do that, and you can't do that. And it's not okay for you to dream.
00:33:46.690 --> 00:33:48.929 M Teresa Lawrence: Let's just get rid of them. Because one.
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:54.760 M Teresa Lawrence: just as you started the the interview today, it's all a story.
00:33:54.770 --> 00:34:06.249 M Teresa Lawrence: And so we have students graduating that have all of these story lines. For example, I I'm from an immigrant family. Our story line was you either went to medical school or law school.
00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:07.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I did not have.
00:34:07.620 --> 00:34:08.920 M Teresa Lawrence: The wherewithal
00:34:09.270 --> 00:34:15.569 M Teresa Lawrence: or the capacity to say No, I would like to go to journalism school, or I would like to be a teacher.
00:34:15.860 --> 00:34:18.069 M Teresa Lawrence: My mindset wasn't there.
00:34:18.130 --> 00:34:20.560 M Teresa Lawrence: And it's really the power of your mind
00:34:20.630 --> 00:34:24.719 M Teresa Lawrence: that that we must master in order in order to thrive.
00:34:25.347 --> 00:34:39.839 M Teresa Lawrence: and the power of leadership is, is a fabulous compilation of leadership, stories of transformation stories, and my my contribution to that book was the leadership of play.
00:34:39.889 --> 00:34:41.080 M Teresa Lawrence: And so
00:34:41.530 --> 00:34:46.100 M Teresa Lawrence: I believe in that when adults play
00:34:47.500 --> 00:34:53.380 M Teresa Lawrence: they, they they lower those barriers, and they're not afraid to share in vulnerability.
00:34:53.400 --> 00:35:00.730 M Teresa Lawrence: And it is in those moments of vulnerability that we form community. And we get the best ideas on the planet.
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, yes, vulnerability is so necessary
00:35:05.700 --> 00:35:09.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for creating community and and that connection, and
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:11.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it it is both.
00:35:13.367 --> 00:35:17.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: healing as well as building
00:35:17.700 --> 00:35:21.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for a better future. And and it's amazing how.
00:35:21.660 --> 00:35:24.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we do something that
00:35:24.410 --> 00:35:33.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: out of the ordinary, that's that, that's that's different. That's fun. How it can help to build that community so much tighter.
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.080 M Teresa Lawrence: And you remember the moments of joy
00:35:37.140 --> 00:35:40.750 M Teresa Lawrence: and the silliness that you shared with somebody.
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.829 M Teresa Lawrence: and that, and when somebody shares their story
00:35:44.870 --> 00:35:56.279 M Teresa Lawrence: in in in vulnerability. It gives permission to other people to share their stories that way. It just opens the floodgates to creativity in a better world.
00:35:56.430 --> 00:35:57.220 M Teresa Lawrence: Yeah.
00:35:57.220 --> 00:35:58.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:58.570 --> 00:36:04.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. And and you know, going back to what you said before about you know what children are taught in schools.
00:36:04.850 --> 00:36:07.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, they're taught a lot of
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of academic stuff.
00:36:09.770 --> 00:36:12.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but they're never really taught life skills.
00:36:12.620 --> 00:36:21.869 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And like, that's the thing you're talking about with books like, think and grow rich and and and principles and and other. You know, books, life 101 is a great book
00:36:21.900 --> 00:36:28.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: where it's like basic life skills that everyone should be educated on.
00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:44.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They're not taught. Now, if you happen to come from a wealthy family or a well to do family or a very educated family. You usually will get taught that at home, though not necessarily. But if you're not that lucky you rarely get that
00:36:44.520 --> 00:36:48.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that education because your parents don't have it either.
00:36:48.600 --> 00:36:51.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it's like, How do you break the cycle?
00:36:51.870 --> 00:36:55.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I'm curious with the power of leadership.
00:36:57.530 --> 00:37:03.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so is that geared towards. And you talk about the leadership of play. Is that geared just towards
00:37:03.520 --> 00:37:07.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: leaders in business? Or is it geared just towards
00:37:07.640 --> 00:37:12.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: people who are trying to be a leader in some capacity in their life.
00:37:12.380 --> 00:37:21.949 M Teresa Lawrence: I think the book is geared towards anyone that values leadership and wants to own their own capacity to be a leader.
00:37:22.345 --> 00:37:33.350 M Teresa Lawrence: You know it is my belief that we're all experts on one thing only, and that is an expert in being ourselves. That is the only thing we can own. And
00:37:33.820 --> 00:37:39.140 M Teresa Lawrence: we we all get to learn from people that have succeeded
00:37:39.170 --> 00:37:59.090 M Teresa Lawrence: that have made it. And we all have stories. And I have I. I put a story in there that I I really believe in faith in the power of God. And there's my story in there. My first day at work at 26 Broadway as an attorney. I walked into an elevator bank
00:37:59.310 --> 00:38:05.710 M Teresa Lawrence: and on the first floor, and on the third floor a 6 foot 2 man walked in.
00:38:05.720 --> 00:38:10.620 M Teresa Lawrence: and we were the only 2 people in the elevator, and he put a gun to my head.
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:25.019 M Teresa Lawrence: and he said, Give me your money, and at that point my like. My spirit left my body, and I was looking down on the scene, and I turned to this man who had a gun to my head. And I. And I basically said
00:38:25.100 --> 00:38:30.139 M Teresa Lawrence: basically telling him he was an idiot. But I said, I don't have any money. It's my first day at work
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.509 M Teresa Lawrence: that is not a normal response.
00:38:32.510 --> 00:38:32.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:38:32.990 --> 00:38:34.099 M Teresa Lawrence: Then he said.
00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:49.460 M Teresa Lawrence: cause I had just gotten engaged, and I had my engagement ring. He goes. Okay, give me your engagement ring, and I just taken the bar, and it wasn't insured, and it was the only thing of value I had in my life when I said, No, you can't have it, it's not insured. Those words came out of my mouth.
00:38:49.460 --> 00:39:17.739 M Teresa Lawrence: and they're not normal words, right? And then the elevator opened on the ninth floor and he grabbed me, and he had a gun, and he had me, and he was taking me to the stairwell and opening up the stairwell. And at that point in time. I I was. I was recounting the elements of of the crime. I said. He's done assault and battery, and if he gets me into the stairwell, I will be raped. And I heard this this like thunderous voice saying, Push him and run!
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:23.410 M Teresa Lawrence: And that's exactly what I did. And after that moment in time. I knew
00:39:23.510 --> 00:39:24.420 M Teresa Lawrence: that
00:39:24.630 --> 00:39:32.090 M Teresa Lawrence: there is something so powerful surrounding us and protecting us, and we get to listen to it.
00:39:32.190 --> 00:39:42.229 M Teresa Lawrence: It's it's it's whispering to us, protecting us and giving us our path when the police showed up, and I told them what I had said. They said you should have given him your ring
00:39:42.720 --> 00:39:55.319 M Teresa Lawrence: and I and you know it's like they thought I was the biggest idiot on the planet, like nobody does something like that. And yet it happens. And there are stories like that that you hear over and over again. And it's
00:39:55.500 --> 00:39:56.300 M Teresa Lawrence: it's
00:39:56.610 --> 00:40:00.899 M Teresa Lawrence: the. It's the presence of something larger than us.
00:40:00.900 --> 00:40:01.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:40:01.340 --> 00:40:03.270 M Teresa Lawrence: And we are a part of that.
00:40:03.610 --> 00:40:04.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:40:05.050 --> 00:40:06.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And that's that's.
00:40:06.180 --> 00:40:09.550 M Teresa Lawrence: A part of leadership, recognising the faith
00:40:09.560 --> 00:40:12.209 M Teresa Lawrence: and the power of the universe, that we live in.
00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:15.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: 2 questions. Did they catch the guy.
00:40:15.830 --> 00:40:19.309 M Teresa Lawrence: They never caught the guy, and I still had to go to work each day, and after that.
00:40:19.310 --> 00:40:19.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Maybe there wasn't.
00:40:19.890 --> 00:40:23.710 M Teresa Lawrence: Scared in the moment. But I I was basically shaking for a month after that.
00:40:23.710 --> 00:40:24.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I bet. Hey! Chelsea.
00:40:24.620 --> 00:40:25.279 M Teresa Lawrence: The motion.
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:25.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sure. Yeah.
00:40:25.930 --> 00:40:27.380 M Teresa Lawrence: When it went through.
00:40:27.520 --> 00:40:28.526 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right right.
00:40:29.610 --> 00:40:32.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Have you heard that voices clearly since.
00:40:33.570 --> 00:40:37.629 M Teresa Lawrence: I have, but it's very interesting, because after that
00:40:38.390 --> 00:40:40.620 M Teresa Lawrence: you have to train yourself to listen.
00:40:41.100 --> 00:40:52.609 M Teresa Lawrence: and and I call it the taps right you. You think you're going the right way, and then an obstacle is put in the way. But you say I'm gonna fight through that obstacle, and then more obstacles show up.
00:40:52.690 --> 00:40:59.849 M Teresa Lawrence: and those are bigger taps. But when you don't have the consciousness to recognize what you're being told.
00:41:00.060 --> 00:41:07.170 M Teresa Lawrence: you're like, oh, I'm gonna get there, anyway. And now, when something like that happens, I'm like, Oh, I'm being directed in a different way.
00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:07.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:41:07.540 --> 00:41:13.420 M Teresa Lawrence: I'm I'm I'm I'm being shown a a point of pivot. And now I pay attention
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.345 M Teresa Lawrence: to the whispers.
00:41:16.250 --> 00:41:21.812 M Teresa Lawrence: But it's amazing that in times of danger that voice gets so loud.
00:41:22.240 --> 00:41:39.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I didn't. Have. I heard that voice once, 10 years ago, not in a danger situation or anything, but just in something that I think was was very important, and haven't heard it since then, and, you know, been thinking about it a lot lately, and asking
00:41:39.990 --> 00:41:42.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to be able to hear it again and to hear it clearly.
00:41:43.650 --> 00:41:49.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But what's interesting is what's happened over the last couple of weeks I've had all these coincidences happened.
00:41:50.240 --> 00:42:02.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I was out in San Diego for retreat, and then I was doing a ceremony afterwards, and gentlemen introduced me to this woman. It turned out. She knew one of the guys who was coming to the ceremony. Not only that
00:42:03.260 --> 00:42:05.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: she met this woman
00:42:05.270 --> 00:42:17.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who, is from New York, who wants to do a ceremony out in the Hamptons, and it turns out I had, and she wanted to connect me to. This woman turns out I'm already connected to her that someone had just connected me to her a couple of weeks before.
00:42:18.736 --> 00:42:21.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I bumped into an old friend on the street.
00:42:21.670 --> 00:42:24.104 M Teresa Lawrence: Chronicity. You are on your path.
00:42:24.510 --> 00:42:46.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then I I bumped in a gentleman from. I know from the ceremonial work that I haven't seen for several years, and it was great to see him, and my wife and I would just walk in around the neighborhood and happen to bump into him, haven't bumped into him in decades, and and so it was great to see him. And then last night, we went to a little reception for the Horizons Conference, and as soon as we walk in.
00:42:46.670 --> 00:42:50.309 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's a couple like right by the door, and they recognized me.
00:42:50.330 --> 00:43:11.985 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To tell you the truth, I didn't recognize them at all. It was just like, but they're like, Oh, you remember, we were in the house in Brooklyn. You helped me. You were so kind da da da like. Oh, oh, okay, great. And so we chatted and we exchanged information. And and I mean the the Their names were familiar. But I I just I I didn't remember the thing at all. But it was just like, Wow.
00:43:12.260 --> 00:43:22.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like another synchronicity. And so it's just I've I've had, maybe like 5 or 6 of these synchronicus events happening in the last couple of weeks, and so to me.
00:43:22.770 --> 00:43:23.939 M Teresa Lawrence: The whispers, your.
00:43:23.940 --> 00:43:24.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right.
00:43:24.560 --> 00:43:28.959 M Teresa Lawrence: You're you're hearing the voice. It's just being shown to you in different ways.
00:43:29.080 --> 00:43:32.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, right, exactly. And it's so funny because
00:43:32.700 --> 00:43:58.981 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I've had many people come on my show. I even had a gentleman wish I could remember his name who did a study on synchronicities. He's like like a university professor who did this multi year study on synchronicities. And and I've had a lot of people who are psychics and healers and have gone through near death experiences and stuff. And they talk about oh, my God! And when when you're in the in the flow. And you get all these synchronicities. And there's always kinda like.
00:43:59.380 --> 00:44:02.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, I like rarely get a synchronous event. Yeah.
00:44:03.011 --> 00:44:03.739 M Teresa Lawrence: You're all over it.
00:44:03.740 --> 00:44:07.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now they're like every freaking day, like, Wow, wow.
00:44:08.373 --> 00:44:12.702 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so yeah. So so hearing that voice, hearing that voice, awesome.
00:44:13.610 --> 00:44:18.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it it. It's time to get ready for our last break of the show. So when we come back.
00:44:18.540 --> 00:44:21.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I want to tie the leadership of play
00:44:21.470 --> 00:44:43.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: into this whole butterfly event, and like where the idea and and I understand, you know, butterflies being a symbol for transformation. But where this idea of getting people to dress up as butterflies came from, and and and and sort of where this this whole thing a a emanated from, and and where you're looking to take it. Okay.
00:44:43.550 --> 00:44:44.380 M Teresa Lawrence: Okay. Thank.
00:44:44.380 --> 00:45:10.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. Thank you. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consulting hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time, and don't forget, if you want to ask your question, to make a comment. Post your comment right now in the live stream, and and we'll we'll talk about it, and we'll answer your questions, and we'll be right back to wrap this all up with my guest and Teresa Lawrence in just a moment.
00:47:18.630 --> 00:47:38.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So. So we have a couple of comments from our loyal listeners on the live stream. So, loyal. Listener Patty, says your guardian, your guardian angel whispers, mine saved me when I wrecked my car in a rollover. So many angels came to my aid. Thank goodness, Patty, glad they they were there for you and loyal listeners. Sonia says.
00:47:38.230 --> 00:47:50.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when I rang my survivor Bell, after cancer treatment, I wore a huge monarch butterfly wings to work the next day as my rebirth totally shacked my staff. But it felt amazing.
00:47:50.890 --> 00:47:53.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful, wonderful.
00:47:53.510 --> 00:47:54.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:47:54.840 --> 00:48:00.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the leadership of play we're talking. You were talking in your book about the leadership of play and how it creates community.
00:48:01.150 --> 00:48:09.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So where did this idea of getting people to dress up as butterflies come from? And how is that creating community.
00:48:09.930 --> 00:48:16.589 M Teresa Lawrence: Well, when I mentor people, and when I coach people, I have them do out of the box
00:48:16.680 --> 00:48:21.490 M Teresa Lawrence: experiences, and it's usually playing like children. So I get. I get adults
00:48:21.530 --> 00:48:39.710 M Teresa Lawrence: to do strange and unusual things. One time I had them dress up as Sponge Bob Square pants characters, and that was fun. But especially you know, Mr. Crabs, cause it's all about money and learning. But when
00:48:40.260 --> 00:48:50.720 M Teresa Lawrence: I think I'm the butterfly, because the transformation I've gone through since Covid has been incredible. So many people in my family have died.
00:48:51.606 --> 00:49:00.449 M Teresa Lawrence: My mentors have died. Everyone has died, and for me to do what I'm doing. I basically had to step out of my framework
00:49:00.610 --> 00:49:02.420 M Teresa Lawrence: and and evolve.
00:49:02.470 --> 00:49:19.389 M Teresa Lawrence: And so I will say that it's that it's my story of growing into who I needed to be and who I want to be to promote my nonprofit and have it known. But it's also humanity. Story is the butterfly.
00:49:19.700 --> 00:49:24.689 M Teresa Lawrence: We. We are all going through this massive transformation, and
00:49:25.620 --> 00:49:26.630 M Teresa Lawrence: I want
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:28.709 M Teresa Lawrence: to give people the choice
00:49:28.740 --> 00:49:39.879 M Teresa Lawrence: of being silly, of being happy, of building community. There is war happening rampantly all around us, and nobody is saying anything.
00:49:39.940 --> 00:49:46.349 M Teresa Lawrence: and even the people that are protesting for peace are doing it in a in a in a harmful way.
00:49:46.350 --> 00:49:46.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:49:47.460 --> 00:49:48.450 M Teresa Lawrence: And so
00:49:48.790 --> 00:49:54.520 M Teresa Lawrence: I. The symbol for the nonprofit is the butterfly, because I want people to transform.
00:49:54.690 --> 00:49:55.480 M Teresa Lawrence: But
00:49:56.170 --> 00:50:01.720 M Teresa Lawrence: I I want to share the message in a worldwide frame for people.
00:50:02.210 --> 00:50:12.670 M Teresa Lawrence: And so when I started this, it's true I wanted to do an event. I wanted to promote the nonprofit, and then I thought to myself, you know I can raise money anytime.
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:24.140 M Teresa Lawrence: This must be a worldwide event that celebrates transformation. The world needs peace, and it needs it. Now. The way to get there is through finding
00:50:24.170 --> 00:50:32.319 M Teresa Lawrence: truth and peace within ourselves. The more people feel peaceful within themselves, the more peace will resonate around the planet.
00:50:32.811 --> 00:50:46.050 M Teresa Lawrence: And while war is everywhere, let's get together a community of people that wanna transform the world that wanna have a better, more peaceful, happy, creative future for their children.
00:50:46.381 --> 00:50:49.700 M Teresa Lawrence: And when I came up with the event, I said, Okay.
00:50:49.810 --> 00:51:11.880 M Teresa Lawrence: how am I? How am I? Gonna have the the biggest impact? I said, I'm gonna go for a world record. I'm gonna see if I can get all of these people to come to Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and dress like a butterfly on June 20, ninth, and I put the name of the website for the event. On on the chat. It's butterflymarch.com
00:51:12.266 --> 00:51:20.940 M Teresa Lawrence: and I started there and then, I said, no other people can host similar events and raise money for charities in their local communities, and
00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:51.099 M Teresa Lawrence: and we can all pray for peace because the world needs peace. And as I started doing that, people have started joining from all over the world. So I have a butterfly captain in Australia. I have butterfly captain in Colombia. I have a butterfly captain in Canada. I have a butterfly captain in Nepal. I have a butterfly captain in Kenya. So it's spreading, and all of these people will be dressed up as butterflies, and we will all be praying for peace because it is
00:51:51.260 --> 00:51:59.383 M Teresa Lawrence: together we're gonna uplift the vibration of the planet because it just takes 2 people to send peace to everyone.
00:51:59.790 --> 00:52:03.499 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and is this the first time you you're doing an event like this?
00:52:03.670 --> 00:52:07.440 M Teresa Lawrence: This is the first time I'm doing an event like this for me. Yes.
00:52:07.710 --> 00:52:13.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Cool. And and so you you have captains all over the place. And and so
00:52:13.870 --> 00:52:17.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how do people get involved with like? What do they do on the day.
00:52:17.810 --> 00:52:43.999 M Teresa Lawrence: It. It is so simple. You pray for peace, and you dress up like a butterfly. Then you send me your picture to butterflymarch.com. It would be lovely if you all signed up to be virtual, or if you want to have the experience in Jackson Wyoming, it's going to be fabulous. I have coach Kendi Foster will be doing the keynote. The keynote address I have.
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:44.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: See you.
00:52:44.330 --> 00:52:47.675 M Teresa Lawrence: Lauren Harris is going to be the master of ceremony.
00:52:48.270 --> 00:53:01.620 M Teresa Lawrence: best selling author author of The Peaceful Millionaire Jessica Carter will be doing the non-denominational prayer for peace. And she was a perfect choice because it's the peaceful millionaire.
00:53:01.700 --> 00:53:24.969 M Teresa Lawrence: And her brand is the peaceful billionaire. And I am very into teaching wealth, consciousness to the world, and so to have her do. The non denominational prayer is fantastic, and I'm giving out butterfly outfits when you register for the live event. You get your butterfly outfit and it's it's going to be a lot of fun. We're gonna we're gonna have
00:53:24.970 --> 00:53:42.535 M Teresa Lawrence: rock painting and the night the night before the event. There's a Vip night, and we were all dressing up in illuminated butterfly outfits and walking through the town of Jackson. It's it's just going to be a very fun and lovely event. And yes, some people are dressing up.
00:53:43.396 --> 00:53:47.013 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Don't go. My headphones. Yes, they are.
00:53:47.610 --> 00:53:51.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, I love the
00:53:51.470 --> 00:53:56.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the the analogy of of how we're all
00:53:57.150 --> 00:54:02.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: caterpillars or butterflies about to experience this
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: transformation.
00:54:04.710 --> 00:54:12.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it may not seem like it. If you look at the world and you look at Media and all the craziness that's happening.
00:54:12.830 --> 00:54:29.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I remember someone using the analogy of if you look at a caterpillar before it goes into its cocoon, it ravenously eats everything that in sight, and it looks like they're they're gonna totally destroy the environment and kill the trees and everything.
00:54:30.210 --> 00:54:33.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then but then when they've eaten, they're full.
00:54:33.870 --> 00:54:41.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: they start to spin their cocoon, they they go into the chrysalis, and they, their bodies, literally start to break down.
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:43.500 M Teresa Lawrence: They dissolve.
00:54:43.500 --> 00:54:51.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Dissolve into this this amorphous substance that then gets transformed into a butterfly.
00:54:51.290 --> 00:54:54.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you you cannot
00:54:54.300 --> 00:55:00.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: open the chrysalis for the butterfly. The butterfly must push its way out of the chrysalis.
00:55:00.810 --> 00:55:03.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: or the wings will not be strong enough to fly.
00:55:04.090 --> 00:55:15.410 M Teresa Lawrence: So. Isn't that a true symbol? Because we think we're doing our children a service by helping them along? And humanity is meant to learn by failure.
00:55:15.850 --> 00:55:16.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:55:16.730 --> 00:55:17.100 M Teresa Lawrence: By.
00:55:17.490 --> 00:55:18.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Struggle.
00:55:18.060 --> 00:55:19.750 M Teresa Lawrence: Trial, it trial and error.
00:55:19.810 --> 00:55:26.480 M Teresa Lawrence: and the other beautiful thing about butterflies. So they emerge completely transformed, and they can't see their wings.
00:55:26.630 --> 00:55:27.420 M Teresa Lawrence: And so.
00:55:27.720 --> 00:55:28.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's.
00:55:28.240 --> 00:55:31.050 M Teresa Lawrence: They have no ego, they cannot see.
00:55:31.100 --> 00:55:35.329 M Teresa Lawrence: The beauty that they have turned into. It is a perfect
00:55:35.500 --> 00:55:37.649 M Teresa Lawrence: ascension, as it were.
00:55:37.650 --> 00:55:38.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.
00:55:38.050 --> 00:55:46.940 M Teresa Lawrence: And that's my prayer for humanity that we ascend into a global community that wants to uplift, uplift each other
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.589 M Teresa Lawrence: and the world. I think I mean, I know we can do it.
00:55:51.231 --> 00:55:55.280 M Teresa Lawrence: Because at you know, at the end of the day war begets war.
00:55:55.350 --> 00:55:58.840 M Teresa Lawrence: Love the guests love. Yeah. And I choose love.
00:55:59.120 --> 00:56:01.466 M Teresa Lawrence: Yeah, and I hope you all join me.
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:09.969 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Absolutely, absolutely. So one more time. What's the website? If people want to learn more about it and then and throw their hat in the ring.
00:56:09.970 --> 00:56:13.410 M Teresa Lawrence: It's butterflymarch.com so.
00:56:13.410 --> 00:56:14.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: EU.
00:56:14.110 --> 00:56:19.920 M Teresa Lawrence: TTER FLYM, a, RCH com.
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:20.900 M Teresa Lawrence: and
00:56:22.040 --> 00:56:39.360 M Teresa Lawrence: If you are going to do it, even virtually sign up because it is beautiful to see the butterfly march going around the world, the world wide prayer on June 20 ninth. To me it's just so beautiful. Yes, I want the world record. Yes, I want you all in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
00:56:39.560 --> 00:56:44.459 M Teresa Lawrence: but it's just as beautiful to see all of the images of people
00:56:44.490 --> 00:56:47.600 M Teresa Lawrence: who believe in transformation, joining in.
00:56:48.330 --> 00:56:56.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful, wonderful wonderful! Well, I wish you much, much success. I'll make sure to tune in on June 20, ninth, and
00:56:57.416 --> 00:57:03.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't have a butterfly outfit, but I'm sure my wife does. I'll steer, steal one of her butterfly shirts or something.
00:57:04.706 --> 00:57:13.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and, Teresa, if people want to get in touch with you and just learn more about the trueness project and the other things that you're doing. Where can they find out more about you?
00:57:13.670 --> 00:57:17.729 M Teresa Lawrence: Oh, I'll put it in the chat. It's your trunus.org, so.
00:57:17.730 --> 00:57:19.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Release that or window. Yes.
00:57:21.540 --> 00:57:28.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so yeah, so please feel free to reach out Teresa. Your trueness.org
00:57:28.743 --> 00:57:34.802 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we'll also post links to her 2 books in the in the show notes.
00:57:35.680 --> 00:57:44.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, Teresa, thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule to come on the show today. It was a pleasure to have you oops, and I said, she's all registered. See.
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.130 M Teresa Lawrence: Thank you.
00:57:46.460 --> 00:57:48.109 M Teresa Lawrence: Welcome to the flutter verse.
00:57:48.824 --> 00:58:01.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful. So thank you so much. I appreciate you taking the time to come on your show on this show. I I wish you much, much success with the Butterfly. March.
00:58:01.490 --> 00:58:03.789 M Teresa Lawrence: Thank you. It's been a pleasure.
00:58:03.790 --> 00:58:04.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I would have.
00:58:04.630 --> 00:58:29.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You're so welcome, and of course, thank you, my loyalist listeners, especially Sonia and Patty. Thank you for all the comments. Don't forget. If you, if you love this interview, please share whether it's the video or the podcast you're listening to and of course. If you did miss any part of today's show, you can always listen to the replay on talk, radio, Nyc, on all the major podcasting platforms, apple, Google
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00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:53.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you all for tuning in. Don't forget later today at 5 PM. It's Frank Harrison in his show, Frank, about health tomorrow. Of course we have our Friday shows with philanthropy and focus, and always Friday, and don't forget tune in on Tuesday evenings for the hard skills and the happy spot.
00:58:54.010 --> 00:58:59.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So everyone take care. Thank you all for tuning in. We will talk to you all next week.
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