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Facebook Live Video from 2024/03/21 - Saving Grace

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2024/03/21 - Saving Grace

[NEW EPISODE] Saving Grace

This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Advanced Spiritual Teacher, Intuitive, and Reiki Teacher, Madeleine Harmath.

What happens when a solid, grounded Software QA Engineering Manager with strategic problem-solving skills has a spiritual experience of a past life contact beckoning her to “WAKE-UP?

She becomes an Advanced Spiritual Teacher and Healer.

She received certification as an Advanced Spiritual Healer from the Dancing with Source Mystery School, a MotoKi Level II healer, as well as a Reiki Level I, II, and III Healer and Teacher.

Madeleine became aware that it was time for her to reestablish herself as a healer, to reconnect with the wonders of the spiritual journey, to delight in the fascinating self-sustaining power of being part of the spiritual realm. 

She blossomed when she connected to the Divine wisdom of the Archangelic and Ascended Master realms, allowing her to teach others self-help tools so that they can delight in the wonder and skills available to humans while they are being awakened back into their wholeness.

Tune in and share your questions and comments about how energy healing change your life on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page.

Show Notes

Segment  1

On this episode of The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is joined by an Advanced Spiritual Teacher, Intuitive, and Reiki Teacher, Madeleine Harmath, as they will be discussing her journey and more about what she does as a Spiritual Teacher. To start the episode, Sam reads from his blog as usual. The post he reads is entitled, “True Peace From The External Chaos Is Found With It.” To read this post and for more content from Sam and other writers, please visit to find those blogs. Sam then introduces his guest for the week, Madeleine Harmath, and asks how she switched careers from being a software engineer to an Advanced Spiritual Teacher. 

Segment 2

After the first break, we return to Sam and Madeleine discusses more of her journey and how  Tarot Reading Class made her realize there was something more she wanted to do with her life and stopped procrastinating to find her new path. During this new phase of her life, Madeleine always knew she was somewhat spiritual and discovered that a lot of the people she knew shared the same interests as her and was marveled by the revelation. From there, she dove into this new path, made discoveries, and learned as much as she could about this new path she was taking. 

Segment 3

As the discussion progresses, Madeleine shares how she turned her part-time hobby into her full-time job. Luckily, the universe works in mysterious ways and she was able to find a part-time job one exit away from her full-time job at the time and was a massage therapist before transitioning to become a Reiki Healer. She shares her transition and how she was able to balance everything she was doing. Madeleine finally made the jump into the spiritual world when her entire division got laid off at her software engineering job and took it as a sign she was ready to finally make her side hustle full-time. She also shares some of the biggest challenges she faced when she started her journey and some of the positive outcomes from it. 

Segment 4

As the episode ends, Sam asks Madeleine about some surprises she might have encountered during her 11-year journey since becoming a Reiki Healer. She also advises those who may want to switch paths, or who might be considering going through a spiritual journey, and what clients can do or ask to ensure they receive the best experience possible with a healer. Sam also asks what makes Madeleine stand out amongst other healers and what people can expect from her work and strategy. If anyone is interested in learning more about Madeleine’s work or wants to book a session, please visit for more details. 


00:00:37.410 --> 00:01:03.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Welcome to another edition of that conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. I hope you had a chance to check out last week's show

00:01:03.380 --> 00:01:08.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with my last minute filling. Guest drew. Rainy was a wonderful show

00:01:08.830 --> 00:01:21.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: about his journey of from being a people pleaser, just saying yes, and a very important show. I think it's especially important for the men out there. So please take a listen to it if you haven't yet.

00:01:21.960 --> 00:01:38.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you for tuning in. We have another wonderful show in store for you today with an excellent guest who I'll get to in just a moment. But first, of course, we have my blog post from a couple of years ago, and it when I was

00:01:38.070 --> 00:01:54.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: printing this out so I could read it. I was like, Wow, I wrote this 2 years ago. It sounds like I wrote this yesterday, but I actually didn't. I wrote this 2 years ago. So in 22. And so the title of this blog post is

00:01:54.990 --> 00:02:00.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: true. Peace from the external chaos is found within.

00:02:01.440 --> 00:02:05.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is a lot of chaos in the world right now.

00:02:06.340 --> 00:02:13.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wars, division, climate crisis. Along with many other daily crises.

00:02:13.790 --> 00:02:22.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it can be overwhelming at times, not knowing how to deal with it. All that is normal and human.

00:02:23.380 --> 00:02:30.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have access to information about all that is happening in the world at an unprecedented pace.

00:02:31.790 --> 00:02:35.920 We know more than we ever did before about what is going on.

00:02:36.350 --> 00:02:42.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet knowledge is not the answer. Of course it is important to be informed.

00:02:43.090 --> 00:02:53.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet we do not need to be immersed in the news cycle all the time. indeed, it is disempowering to do so.

00:02:54.410 --> 00:03:00.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How do we deal with it all? How do we find peace in the middle of all this madness?

00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The answer lies within us, not

00:03:04.580 --> 00:03:10.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: outside of us. to find that place of stillness that is unshakable.

00:03:11.750 --> 00:03:16.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We do not find it in others or in the world around us.

00:03:16.490 --> 00:03:19.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for the world is constantly changing.

00:03:19.550 --> 00:03:30.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are always battles being fought and issues to address. Yet when we look inside, that is where we can find true peace.

00:03:31.230 --> 00:03:40.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we may not find it right away. It takes time and practice to reach that still center that is within all of us.

00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:47.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet it is there to find it, we must practice going inside

00:03:48.330 --> 00:03:51.890 to just sit with ourselves and breathe.

00:03:52.710 --> 00:03:57.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: allowing the mind shadow to have space until it subsides.

00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:04.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and once it does. Once all those voices that have had a chance to say their peace

00:04:07.200 --> 00:04:10.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: are heard, they soon become quiet.

00:04:11.570 --> 00:04:19.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: In that quietness lies in that lies in our centre. In her core

00:04:19.220 --> 00:04:21.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we find true peace.

00:04:22.430 --> 00:04:29.939 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not an external temporary piece. a lasting peace that comes from deep within us.

00:04:31.170 --> 00:04:33.719 We may not find it right away.

00:04:33.890 --> 00:04:35.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that is normal

00:04:36.170 --> 00:04:40.549 yet the more we sit with ourselves and wait for it.

00:04:40.960 --> 00:04:43.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it will surely come.

00:04:44.410 --> 00:04:46.660 And is it not worth it.

00:04:48.150 --> 00:04:50.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are you in search of more peace in your life?

00:04:51.570 --> 00:04:56.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can you make room in your life to seek it within you?

00:04:59.510 --> 00:05:00.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So

00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:11.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean it. It may seem very obvious and very trite, and something that you've heard many times before.

00:05:11.740 --> 00:05:16.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: From from other teachers other other shows.

00:05:17.940 --> 00:05:28.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I guess it kind of at the time it felt important for me to remind people of this very simple yet basic truth.

00:05:29.700 --> 00:05:32.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I believe at the time

00:05:32.850 --> 00:05:37.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it was probably during a ceremony that kind of came to me that

00:05:39.020 --> 00:05:48.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know we all, myself included. We all look for a more peaceful world. We all want a more peaceful life.

00:05:48.760 --> 00:05:59.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant:  With all the wars and conflict and division, and and and people on opposite sides of every issue.

00:06:00.420 --> 00:06:05.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it just feels like there's barely any unity anymore.

00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:18.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that and that focusing on all this external conflict, it makes our internal world feel unsettled.

00:06:22.660 --> 00:06:26.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and what I know for myself is

00:06:27.850 --> 00:06:31.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when I sit and breathe.

00:06:31.880 --> 00:06:37.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: some people might call it meditating. It doesn't exactly have to be a meditation practice.

00:06:39.200 --> 00:06:41.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but when I just sit with myself

00:06:43.350 --> 00:06:45.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and just be still.

00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:49.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and sometimes

00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:57.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I can get to that quiet place very quickly, and sometimes doesn't feel like I can get there at all.

00:06:57.180 --> 00:07:08.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There were all these thoughts running around inside my brain, of all the things I have to do tomorrow, and all the the challenges that I'm dealing with.

00:07:11.980 --> 00:07:16.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet somehow, when I just give myself enough time and space.

00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:25.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I just settled down that once all these little voices inside my head have had a chance

00:07:27.150 --> 00:07:30.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to kind of just express what they want me to know

00:07:33.540 --> 00:07:36.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that somehow they start to

00:07:38.070 --> 00:07:50.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Things begin to get a little bit quieter. Sometimes they can get very quiet other times it's just a little bit less quiet every time is different.

00:07:53.690 --> 00:08:01.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But inevitably what happens is as things are getting quieter inside my head, and inside my body

00:08:03.070 --> 00:08:06.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there is that sense of calm. of peace.

00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:18.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it's not like, Oh, I'm totally calm, and I'm totally peaceful. but I'm just a little bit more peaceful than I was when I started the

00:08:19.780 --> 00:08:21.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: practice of just sitting.

00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sometimes I listen to music to help me settle as well.

00:08:31.590 --> 00:08:35.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so over and over again, whenever I've done this

00:08:35.470 --> 00:08:39.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: throughout the pandemic before the pandemic after the pandemic.

00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:48.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the more I just give space to myself. to what I'm feeling

00:08:49.150 --> 00:08:52.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to how I'm being in the present moment.

00:08:54.660 --> 00:09:04.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The more I just give room for it, the more I can find a little more stillness, a little more quietness, a little more peace.

00:09:05.880 --> 00:09:09.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And somehow, when I find that inner peace.

00:09:11.560 --> 00:09:16.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then the external chaos doesn't quite affect me as much.

00:09:20.150 --> 00:09:27.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So this blog post is really a call to everyone listening to

00:09:28.890 --> 00:09:37.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: find a way to just give yourself some time to sit. to be peaceful.

00:09:38.680 --> 00:09:41.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and to just give some space

00:09:42.400 --> 00:09:43.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to

00:09:43.820 --> 00:09:46.050 what's going on internally.

00:09:46.970 --> 00:09:53.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it I can almost guarantee. I can't guarantee, but I can almost guarantee that when you do

00:09:55.870 --> 00:09:57.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you will find that

00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:04.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the KA external chaos in your life might not

00:10:04.380 --> 00:10:12.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: affect you quite as much doesn't mean you completely ignore. It doesn't mean you don't take action and do something about it.

00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:21.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It just means that it doesn't have to pull you off your centre, and it doesn't have to

00:10:22.380 --> 00:10:24.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cause you to be dysregulated.

00:10:26.030 --> 00:10:33.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post. True peace from the external chaos is found within.

00:10:33.740 --> 00:10:45.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You can always find it on the talk radio slash blog, or at my personal website of the conscious

00:10:46.050 --> 00:11:03.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I hope you enjoyed it. We'll have another one next week. And now it is my pleasure to welcome to the show.  A a spiritual teacher, intuitive and Reiki Master Madeleine Armath.

00:11:04.010 --> 00:11:17.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What happens when a solid, grounded software quality assurance engineering manager with strategic problem solving skills as a spiritual experience of a past life contact. Beckoning her to wake up.

00:11:17.260 --> 00:11:20.539 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: she becomes an advanced spiritual teacher and healer.

00:11:20.920 --> 00:11:28.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Madeline has received certification as an advanced spiritual healer from the dancing with Source Mystery School.

00:11:28.270 --> 00:11:50.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She's a Motoki level, 2 healer as well as a Reiki level 1, 2, and 3, healer and teacher. Madeline became aware that it was time for her to reestablish herself as a healer, to reconnect with the wonders of the spiritual journey to delight in the fascinating, self-sustaining power of being part of the spiritual realm.

00:11:51.870 --> 00:12:17.769 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She blossomed when she connected to the divine wisdom of the arc angelic and ascended master realms, allowing her to teach others self help tools so that they can delight in the wonder and skills available to humans where they were being awakened back to their wholeness. Welcome to the conscious. Consult now, Madeleine, thank you so much, and thank you for having me today. Oh, my pleasure, my pleasure. So

00:12:17.860 --> 00:12:26.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: II I'm really really curious about how does one go from being a a software engineering manager

00:12:26.050 --> 00:12:32.209 to to kind of being a healer and a spiritual teacher. I mean, it's not an unfamiliar pack to myself.

00:12:32.410 --> 00:12:39.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but I I'd like to kinda highlight this because I think there are a lot of people out there who

00:12:39.310 --> 00:12:54.719 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: kinda feel like I'm just a normal person doing normal things. What's with all this spiritual woo woo stuff. And so III really would like to give our audience a little bit of background about

00:12:54.950 --> 00:13:02.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who you were before this awakening, and and you know how that awakening came to you.

00:13:03.760 --> 00:13:35.339 madeleine harmath: Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So I have been very intuitive all my life, but no one in my family had. you know language around it. I didn't really say anything about it, you know, to anyone I just, you know, grew up, went to school. I loved math growing up, and I went up to my dad one day and I said, What can I do with my math skills? That would be cool, you know. And right about that time. He's like, Well, be an engineer. I mean, they create things, you know, be a creator.

00:13:35.340 --> 00:13:52.550 madeleine harmath: And I went. Okay, sounds good to me, and I went off to the university and got my engineering degree. And you know II live here in California. So I live here in Silicon valley, which is, you know, right, the high tech corridor of everything

00:13:52.820 --> 00:14:07.199 madeleine harmath: and came back. Got, you know, worked at Apple as my very first job, and you know, just was off and running, and didn't realize that I had all of these intuitive capabilities.

00:14:07.330 --> 00:14:09.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, helping me in the background.

00:14:09.850 --> 00:14:19.740 madeleine harmath: and very quickly, within a matter of 5 or 6 years I moved into management. And again, you know, II was just

00:14:19.780 --> 00:14:41.910 madeleine harmath: everything seemed very obvious to me. There's a lot of today. There are a lot of leadership, you know, schools and and universities talking about how to be a great manager. And it was just so obvious to me right out of the gate. I have a great story in that, you know. I my very first management job was with a small startup.

00:14:42.270 --> 00:15:05.300 madeleine harmath: and I got referred into the job. I had never been a manager before, and I had worked with an engineer at the at a previous company, and he literally, as soon as he knew I was available, he walked up to the Vp. Of his company and said, You need to hire her. She's gonna be a great manager and and so he called me on the phone and said, I hear you're available. And I went. Yes, I am.

00:15:05.300 --> 00:15:14.930 madeleine harmath: And within 3 days I had my very first management job, and he handed me. It was interesting. It was a startup. So

00:15:14.930 --> 00:15:19.620 madeleine harmath: it had been around for a couple of years. And they were. They actually

00:15:19.620 --> 00:15:30.340 madeleine harmath: created. The digital signature devices that we all use in every store now. So they invented that, and

00:15:30.460 --> 00:15:52.559 madeleine harmath: I was the manager of the Qa. Department. And he handed me like one person as my staff, and he's like, okay. Well, now, it's your job to, you know. Fill your staff and go hire and things like that. But he literally gave me the one person nobody else wanted in the company. And so, because this person was very direct.

00:15:52.560 --> 00:16:13.280 madeleine harmath: you know, he spoke his mind, and I love direct, because to me genuine, there's no spin, there's no it is what it is. You know where you know always where you stand, and absolutely, you know. And he was very direct, and I literally sat him down and said.

00:16:13.550 --> 00:16:24.949 madeleine harmath: You know, you're in the software Qa. Department. You know. What what would you like to do? And he's like, I always wanted to learn how to program, but no one will send me to programming school.

00:16:25.110 --> 00:16:52.770 madeleine harmath: and I went done deal, you know, within a few days I found in a program that I could send him off to for a couple of weeks in immersion program. He came back. He was brilliant, he was, and he loved it, and then and then within, like 2 or 3 months, the Vp. Who hired me and loved him, which is why they all. They kept him flopped himself, came by, sat down in my queue, and said, What did you do to Bob

00:16:53.470 --> 00:16:59.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I went, what do you mean? And he goes. I have never seen him this happy.

00:16:59.620 --> 00:17:06.200 madeleine harmath: and I looked at him square in the square, in the eyes, and I said, You'll never guess.

00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.840 madeleine harmath: I asked him what he wanted, and then I gave it to him.

00:17:10.300 --> 00:17:33.119 madeleine harmath: I don't know, you know very, very difficult strategy here, so I just kind of, you know, kept going, and, you know, made my last job, was it Cisco Systems? And again had teams all over the world? And again, very intuitive and really could always see the path of least resistance.

00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:38.299 madeleine harmath: and all I had to do was then implement it, and nobody could ever figure out

00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:39.940 madeleine harmath: how I did this.

00:17:40.100 --> 00:17:54.600 madeleine harmath: And it was just. It was just obvious to me. It was very intuitive. So you know, I had skills, you know, live. But then I went to a taro reading class. Okay, I want you to hold it there a second.

00:17:55.040 --> 00:17:58.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So before we get to the class, we're gonna take a quick break.

00:17:58.560 --> 00:18:13.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Keep the audience on the edge of their seats. And when we come back, let's get into yeah, what really opened you up like, we're really kind of turn this this software engineering manager into a a healer. Okay, Madeline.

00:18:14.120 --> 00:18:24.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: alright, wonderful, wonderful. So everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now, awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with

00:18:24.810 --> 00:18:29.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: teacher in the healer, Madeleine harmeth, and we will be right back

00:18:29.760 --> 00:18:31.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in just a moment.

00:20:40.730 --> 00:21:03.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consult. Now we're awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with Healer and teacher, Madeleine Harmath. So, Madeleine, you you you have this wonderful career as a as a software engineering manager.

00:21:03.590 --> 00:21:06.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then one day you go to this Tarot class.

00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:34.830 madeleine harmath: Yes, and it was very interesting. I did it just out of a whim, you know it sounded cool. It was 6 weeks long once a week, and you know, first week I get there, and the teachers, you know, teaching us the card deck, and of course we get paired with someone to do a reading as a practice, and they provide me with a reading. I provide them with a reading, and then the next week I come back. We're learning more of the deck. I get paired up with someone else.

00:21:34.850 --> 00:21:39.639 madeleine harmath: and they give me exactly the same reading as the week before.

00:21:39.860 --> 00:21:48.580 madeleine harmath: Third week I come back. I get paired with someone else. Exactly the same reading. 6 weeks in a row.

00:21:48.610 --> 00:21:50.309 madeleine harmath: 6 different people.

00:21:50.360 --> 00:22:06.059 madeleine harmath: exactly the same reading, including on the last day of the teacher, also gave each of us a reading, and it was exactly the same reading at this point. My left brain is going now wait a minute. You know the odds of this are.

00:22:06.390 --> 00:22:35.340 madeleine harmath: you know I should go buy a lottery ticket right now. And it. It was very interesting. So that's when suddenly it was, you know, you have to kind of get your left brain on board. There's something more going on here that I realize just very generally, what was the reading like? What was it about? It was the fact that I that my life is going to change. And I need to stop procrastinating.

00:22:35.450 --> 00:22:43.199 madeleine harmath: Yeah, okay, in my life that needed to change. And I knew it. And I was stalling

00:22:43.240 --> 00:23:08.739 madeleine harmath: because they were. They were hard to changes. And it was like, you gotta do it. You gotta do it. You gotta do it. You gotta do it, you know it's in your best, highest, good, best interest. Da da da over and over and over and over, and finally just kind of looked at it and went, okay, well, I there's something more here than I understand. So so I need to go investigate.

00:23:08.990 --> 00:23:27.989 madeleine harmath: This whole spiritual thing. And what is it about? And you know? And just so, I literally found every class that I could in the vicinity, and I started just attending them all, because I've always had a really good level of divine discernment.

00:23:27.990 --> 00:23:52.889 madeleine harmath: so I can tell what resonates with me what doesn't resonate with me very quickly, and so I would go to all these classes, and I'd be like, yep. That resonates with me. That feels right to me, you know, or I would go to another class, and I'd be like, well, okay, that's not for me. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but that's just not for me, and I just, you know. And then I started going to like, meet and greet your spirit guides. And you know,

00:23:53.300 --> 00:24:02.550 madeleine harmath: I went to classes on clearing your chakras and auras and past life readings, and you know, and I found my first mentor

00:24:02.620 --> 00:24:18.289 madeleine harmath: so. I was very serial. I'm a daydreamer. I like daydream. I have very good imagination. And that's usually referred to as being very serial. And I don't want to be present. You want to be anywhere. But

00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:45.179 madeleine harmath: and so I found a mentor who taught me how to ground and to connect in the earth's energy, and be in the present moment, which is kind of funny, considering the the engineering background, like most people think of engineers, is very grounded, very present kind of people, but not necessarily, huh? Not necessarily because they're very creative people, you know. So you don't. They're, you know, they're very creative. So you can be

00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:58.790 madeleine harmath: connect to to be present creative. You can be earth based creative. But you can be a serial creative be a daydreamer, you know so and maybe perhaps more the visionary

00:24:58.820 --> 00:25:16.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: technical terms. Right? Just curious. While you're taking these classes, you go into this stuff like what was your family saying, like, this might must have been like, what's

00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what's what's Madeleine doing?

00:25:19.860 --> 00:25:35.550 madeleine harmath: I you know I just kind of went out, said, you know I'm going. All these classes don't know what's you know. I'll let you know when I figure it out. And they're like, Okay, whatever. Actually, my dad was very spiritual, I never knew it until I actually started talking to him.

00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:49.719 madeleine harmath: And my mother, just it was okay with whatever I was doing. She's like, as long as you're happy I'm good, you know. But my dad turns out, even though I was raised I was raised Catholic.

00:25:49.720 --> 00:26:09.230 madeleine harmath: and but he was, you know he turns out he was very spiritual. And when I started talking to him about all this, he was like, Oh, yeah, I know about past lives. And I'm like, and where were we gonna converse, you know, in my life we had none of these conversations when you know. And it

00:26:09.660 --> 00:26:17.929 madeleine harmath: I just, you know, maybe he just didn't want to go there until I went there until I brought it up. And that's actually been

00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:20.369 madeleine harmath: a huge part of my journey.

00:26:20.520 --> 00:26:22.800 madeleine harmath: Is that

00:26:22.950 --> 00:26:31.690 madeleine harmath: I suddenly realized that I needed to talk about it. I needed to talk about it and not worry about what other people think.

00:26:31.800 --> 00:26:40.220 madeleine harmath: Because, as it turned out, there were a lot of people at work who were also very spiritual.

00:26:40.490 --> 00:26:42.640 madeleine harmath: and no one said anything.

00:26:43.310 --> 00:26:53.730 madeleine harmath: Nobody wants to be the first right, and until I tell you what? I had a lot of missed opportunities

00:26:53.800 --> 00:27:03.489 madeleine harmath: because I stayed silent. And II had something happened to me. Where I realized that

00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.019 madeleine harmath: that was not a good thing.

00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:19.089 madeleine harmath: and IA huge missed opportunity, and once I realized that I stopped doing it. Now I talked about it. I talked about it in the restaurant I talked to. I don't care who's listening. I'm sorry I just don't.

00:27:19.090 --> 00:27:43.530 madeleine harmath: You know. I I'm just, and it's amazing what happens when you when you're talking about it. I was talking to a fellow healer at a restaurant, and the waiter kinda kept coming by and kind of leaning in, cause he heard all these butt. You know us about angels, and this and that, and this. This is done. We were having this like 2 h conversation every time he came by.

00:27:43.530 --> 00:27:48.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. He stopped for a very long time.

00:27:48.850 --> 00:27:51.309 madeleine harmath: It's a I encourage everybody

00:27:51.340 --> 00:27:53.280 madeleine harmath: to be right.

00:27:53.730 --> 00:28:01.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So then. what? Okay? So you're taking all these classes you're learning all this stuff.

00:28:02.070 --> 00:28:03.900 When did like

00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:08.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you finally say, Oh, my God, like

00:28:08.300 --> 00:28:15.480 madeleine harmath: this is like something I really need to focus on. Now. Yeah.

00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:38.129 madeleine harmath: I was taking classes from him. One of the classes he was teaching was how to heal with your hands, how to run healing energy through your hands into another person and to help them heal. And so I've never done this before. So he, you know Scott, his class, and we're we're help, you know, doing this exercise? And after class he came up to me and said, You're very gifted.

00:28:38.320 --> 00:28:49.839 madeleine harmath: and he said I would like to mentor you. And and then I said, Why? And he said, because I'm only helping you remember something you already know.

00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm!

00:28:51.650 --> 00:28:59.719 madeleine harmath: And that was that was kind of the beginning. And so I meant he became my mentor for a year and a half.

00:28:59.770 --> 00:29:09.929 madeleine harmath: There he was, the one that was teaching me how to ground. Okay, and then simultaneously, a couple of months later, I found my ethereal teacher.

00:29:10.110 --> 00:29:26.230 madeleine harmath: who, you know, gave all my intuition language about, you know, talking to Source and meeting your spirit guides and working with the archangels, and ascended masters, and all of that, and she taught a lot of various different ways of healing yourself.

00:29:26.750 --> 00:29:31.119 madeleine harmath: and so I. So they were actually happening

00:29:31.190 --> 00:29:32.480 madeleine harmath: in series.

00:29:33.260 --> 00:29:56.309 madeleine harmath: And and when I graduated both both of those instructors I really very quickly realized that you had to be connected into earth energy as much as you had to be connected in a spirit spirit energy. It has to be a balance, because you know, the universe loves balance, balance, balance, balance, everything is balanced.

00:29:56.370 --> 00:30:05.059 madeleine harmath: And so because we're physical beings and we're spiritual beings, you must be connected into earth and source energy in balance.

00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.229 madeleine harmath: Otherwise you plateau.

00:30:07.570 --> 00:30:11.539 madeleine harmath: There's this expression that the

00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:19.199 madeleine harmath: the branches of the tree can only grow as high as the roots grow deep right? We can only

00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:33.299 madeleine harmath: travel as high in the spirit realms as we are grounded into the Earth realm. And I and I figured that out as well. That's what I figured out. It was like, Okay, I understand how this works. Now

00:30:33.380 --> 00:30:55.879 madeleine harmath: you know, the more connected I am into Earth energy and the more connected I can be into spirit energy, and vice versa. So that is actually one of the things that I teach in all of my classes. When I do all of my meditations. The first thing I do is a meditation on connecting and earth energy, and it connecting into service energy in balance. Because if you don't have that.

00:30:56.590 --> 00:31:08.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you can't get very far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So let's take a quick break. And when we come back. Let's talk about kind of what happened next. And like.

00:31:08.610 --> 00:31:32.909 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, when you decided to really make this a bigger part of your life. Okay. so everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now are weakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one pm, Eastern time right here on talk, radio data, Nyc, and all over social media on Youtube, Facebook, Twitter Linkedin Twitch.

00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And we'll be right back with our guest, Madeline Harmon, in just a moment.

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00:33:36.730 --> 00:33:48.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back. So, Madeline, you you

00:33:48.300 --> 00:33:53.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: started getting mentored by by these people. You're you're doing energy healing.

00:33:53.530 --> 00:33:59.790 madeleine harmath: But I'm assuming through all this, you still got your full-time job right? You still working as an engineer?

00:33:59.870 --> 00:34:23.610 madeleine harmath: Yes, training right? Right? So so when did you kind of cross over to this being kind of a part time? Hobby, fun thing to something that you really decided to dedicate your life to. You know the universe is very synchronistic in nature, as you know. And once I had my certifications from both instructors.

00:34:23.650 --> 00:34:39.620 madeleine harmath: I actually, amazingly enough, found a part time, evening and weekend job literally one exit away from my high tech job. That what? The owner was very spiritual.

00:34:39.620 --> 00:35:08.399 madeleine harmath: and I walked in, and she had put a a an add on Craigslist, and I came in and said, you know. Oh, so what I should say is, I didn't know how to transition between being high tech and being a Reiki healer so I actually became a massage therapist for short amount of time. Okay, I needed an interim step to somewhere where I could educate people but be in the same arena. You know this you know, of

00:35:08.660 --> 00:35:18.579 madeleine harmath: where people would go for this type of healing. So I actually went to evening classes. Weekend classes became a fully certified massage therapist.

00:35:18.610 --> 00:35:21.780 madeleine harmath: And then I found at a Spa

00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:50.660 madeleine harmath: a job that was one exit away so literally 2 miles from where I was working in high tech and and they and like, I said the owner was very spiritual. And so I'm like, Well, I wanna do. I'm doing massage therapy. But really I'm a raki healer, because and I use the term because that was the only term, or at least a term people and sort of understood. They've heard the term. They kind of know what it is.

00:35:50.660 --> 00:35:54.540 madeleine harmath: So I went. Okay, well, let's just do that, you know.

00:35:54.620 --> 00:36:00.320 madeleine harmath: And became, you know. So she hired me as massage therapist, and I said, Would you be willing

00:36:00.430 --> 00:36:25.409 madeleine harmath: to put Reiki on on as a list of your services that people can come, and I will be the Reiki healer. And she's like, absolutely, you know. I've wanted to do this for a long time, but I'm you know I'm trying to run the business, and I'm a reiki healer, but I can't do everything, so so I've really really wanted to do it. I'm glad you came in. So she literally put that as a service

00:36:25.470 --> 00:36:32.370 madeleine harmath: that people could come in and and, you know, pay for that service. And I was the resident.

00:36:32.570 --> 00:36:54.009 madeleine harmath: So I did that evenings weekends like 2, 3 evenings a week, and weekends. And simultaneously what I was doing at work was I really stepped into my power as a manager delegated start delegating a lot of work which my staff was more than capable of doing, and I took a 1012 h.

00:36:54.260 --> 00:37:03.530 madeleine harmath: day, workday, and I turned it into a 6 h, work day, and so it became very easy right

00:37:03.530 --> 00:37:30.960 madeleine harmath: to then hop out at 60'clock at night and go to my other job. And that was a lot of fun. And and it was. It was amazing, because it did give me the opportunity to figure out the language. It's like, how do I talk to people about this? Because how do II cause I have to assess each person as to where they are in their journey. As to what language I'm gonna use

00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:52.810 madeleine harmath: to, you know. Help them understand what I'm doing. You know. I've heard of a lot of spiritual teachers and energy healers using the computer metaphors and computer language a lot. Did did you find yourself because of your engineering background doing that. I'm glad you mentioned that because my teacher, she say the trauma she would call that our buggy code.

00:37:53.020 --> 00:38:22.140 madeleine harmath: and you know, and when you heal as as a core. As a matter of healing. When you go through healing, you actually defragment yourself afterwards. So you know, because the trauma will fragment your soul. So when you do a healing, you have to defragment yourself and bring all the pieces back into you. And so yeah, there's a lot of high tech terms engineering terms.

00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:26.840 madeleine harmath: When I talk about the ego I talk about a database.

00:38:27.130 --> 00:38:33.549 madeleine harmath: Hopefully, we'll we'll talk about that a little later. But yes, you know. So there's a lot of terms that

00:38:33.590 --> 00:38:44.830 madeleine harmath: you know we can use. But you know, people when I started telling people at work what I was doing. Of course they kind of looked at me a little bit sideways. And I said, Now, wait a minute.

00:38:45.000 --> 00:39:12.010 madeleine harmath: You're a scientist. Okay, you're an engineer. You work with physical energy. Mean what courses through a computer, if not physical energy? What powers it? Energy? Okay? So you're working with physical energy. I'm working with physical. And now I'm working with spiritual energy now with all the other forms of energy. So it's the other side of the point.

00:39:12.140 --> 00:39:16.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, Gotcha. So so what point did you

00:39:17.060 --> 00:39:21.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: finally make the decision to jump and go into these worlds full time?

00:39:21.870 --> 00:39:27.590 madeleine harmath: So I was doing this part time job for about 9 months, and all of a sudden

00:39:27.650 --> 00:39:29.880 madeleine harmath: our entire division got laid off.

00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:50.880 madeleine harmath: and that was the universe. It was very clear, I knew instantaneously when I heard that I knew. Oh, here's my opportunity. I'm supposed to. Now go full time. I'm ready, and of course I got huge severance package, which I then went, and, you know.

00:39:50.880 --> 00:40:12.790 madeleine harmath: built my website and got my way. You know my business cards, and I was off and running, and about 6 months after I went full time. I literally just called them the Spa on the phone that day and went tomorrow I'm starting full time. And they went great and so for about 6 months I was there full time, and then

00:40:12.790 --> 00:40:26.769 madeleine harmath: source, which is my term for spirit. And God came in and said, That's enough of that. You need to be out on your own now.

00:40:27.620 --> 00:40:56.140 madeleine harmath: when I started my journey this more proactively probably about 4 years, about 4 years right so wasn't like instantaneous overnight. It was right, because my my education was a year and a half in its own right, you know, and it took at least, you know, a year before that of me going around, and you know, figuring things out and finding everybody. And but I thought that was fairly fast, you know.

00:40:56.140 --> 00:41:09.290 madeleine harmath: between the time I started in the time I went, you know, full time into this career. But everything was very synchronistic. It just just was like somebody hit the dominoes, and off I went.

00:41:09.380 --> 00:41:11.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, it

00:41:11.670 --> 00:41:29.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: flow. Sounds like it flowed relatively, smoothly. But but my point being that sometimes people think like, Oh, it just boom overnight. You go from one thing to another, and it's usually not that way. There's usually some kind of transition period to be physically ready.

00:41:29.140 --> 00:41:44.100 madeleine harmath: Yeah, I was also very excited. You know. Everything I was doing, you know, with both my teachers was very exciting, was very interesting. It was all like this supernatural, metaphysical. You know things that

00:41:44.210 --> 00:42:10.670 madeleine harmath: what people would call that and it was like, Wow! This is so easy. Why didn't anybody tell me. This was easy, you know. Why does everybody make everything so hard? I don't understand why human beings love hard, you know. Mind loves to over complicate them right, and it's like no, what should be valued is ease, you know. Easy grace, right? And how long ago was that that you went full time?

00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:26.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Ii was in 2,013. So 11 years ago. Now, wow, wow! And so once you went full time, and then and then you went, you know, to the Spa, and then you kind of split off on your own.

00:42:26.420 --> 00:42:40.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wh, what was the biggest challenge for you? Just kind of going off on your own embracing this full time, and and really kind of leaving behind this whole identity of being an engineer and a manager to now

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: completely into a teacher and healer.

00:42:44.300 --> 00:42:45.929 madeleine harmath: Yeah, you know, I

00:42:46.520 --> 00:42:52.949 madeleine harmath: I don't even know how to explain this. It was a no brainer for me. It just it just is

00:42:52.980 --> 00:42:57.800 madeleine harmath: II didn't give it any thought. It was obvious

00:42:57.870 --> 00:43:03.830 madeleine harmath: it was like, No, this is where I'm supposed to be. This is obvious, it feels right.

00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.700 madeleine harmath: And so I literally didn't even give it a second thought.

00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:19.440 madeleine harmath: And I know people always look at me like, How is that even possible? And I'm like, I don't know how to explain it to you. It just wasn't even a second thought. It was. No, this is what's next.

00:43:20.150 --> 00:43:43.840 madeleine harmath: you know, and I love it. And it's fun. And it's exciting. And it's interesting. And why is it the whole world doing this? What are you doing? And I get to help people heal, and I get to help people let go of their trauma and drama. And I get to help. You know, people's I get to see their transformation, you know, as they shift from this

00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:57.680 madeleine harmath: this hard lifestyle to this easy, you know. Happy lifestyle. It's like, why wouldn't everybody want to do that, you know. So why would even it be a second thought?

00:43:57.910 --> 00:44:08.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So when you started working with people like 11 years ago to today. do you find the people who show up to wanna work with you?

00:44:09.950 --> 00:44:13.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are there any differences? Are people like?

00:44:13.410 --> 00:44:23.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are there any any similarities between the people who show up now, or are there any sort of general trends you can see in terms of what people are showing up for?

00:44:24.420 --> 00:44:26.270 madeleine harmath: Wow!

00:44:26.570 --> 00:44:34.450 madeleine harmath: You know, I was. Gonna say no to that, except for the I guess the only trend, or the only similarity is.

00:44:34.600 --> 00:44:36.570 madeleine harmath: give me, you know, like help.

00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.990 madeleine harmath: You know I have come to my the end of

00:44:41.030 --> 00:44:58.240 madeleine harmath: you know, which end, as it were, and I don't know how to transition out of this. You know. I've you know whether it's a chronic pain, a disease and emotional pain. It's like, I've tried everything. What do you got? You know? And it's really unfortunate, because.

00:44:58.240 --> 00:45:14.670 madeleine harmath: you know, they're so far down the path, and it's such an extreme that now I have to walk them back, you know, and they and they have to want to, of course, go there and and that again, because they're they

00:45:14.830 --> 00:45:36.210 madeleine harmath: are at this extreme. They, too, have to be patient, and you know, and just wait and see and walk themselves back. And it, you know I'm I'm never gonna say I have this magic pill for you that you know you've spent the last 30 years getting yourself into this state. And now you're gonna have one healing, and everything's gonna be fine.

00:45:36.360 --> 00:46:04.120 madeleine harmath: And unfortunately, a lot of people think that way. It's the ones the ones who really stick with it and go. Okay, you know, I get that. I have to step my, you know. Step back the other direction now, and they do stick with it, and you know, May, they might come with to me once or twice. They might go find another healer. It doesn't matter. As long as they keep moving forward and keep making progress they will get there, you know everything is possible.

00:46:04.150 --> 00:46:07.340 madeleine harmath: and as long as you stick with it

00:46:07.470 --> 00:46:27.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: right? Right? Exactly. Exactly. It's kind of like sometimes doing the energy healing work. It's like, we're the the practitioner of last choice, right? It's like they've done everything else. They've talked to everyone else, nothing else works. And then, finally, they kind of land in our lap. And now it's like, okay.

00:46:27.710 --> 00:46:53.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, it's about time you got here. But now let's let's let's kinda turn things around alright. We we gotta take our last break of the show when we come back. Let's just talk about like what you've seen over the last 11 years. You know what's amazed you even in terms of of how you've worked with people. And what have you really learned through the process of actually working with other people? Okay, Madam

00:46:53.990 --> 00:47:06.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: awesome. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. We've been speaking this hour with Madeleine Harmath, and we will be right back in just a moment.

00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:21.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so, Madeline, you've been doing this work now for over 11 years I'm sure you've worked with a huge variety of people.

00:49:22.060 --> 00:49:33.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What's happened that even surprises you like, W. What have you worked with people. And what have you helped people to get through that just

00:49:33.660 --> 00:49:36.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: even even for yourself, who was like, Wow!

00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:43.440 madeleine harmath: Oh, there's so many stories about to pick one or a couple you know.

00:49:43.940 --> 00:49:46.110 madeleine harmath: people create their own miracles.

00:49:46.310 --> 00:49:53.849 madeleine harmath: They just have to believe, and they have to stay with it. They are, you know.

00:49:55.160 --> 00:50:03.850 madeleine harmath: and and it's just, and that has been proven to me over and over and over and over. You know I had a client who

00:50:03.900 --> 00:50:09.570 madeleine harmath: was on 7 different depressants when he came to receive a healing from me.

00:50:09.720 --> 00:50:11.740 madeleine harmath: and you know, and

00:50:12.170 --> 00:50:26.169 madeleine harmath: by the time a year and a half later he would come like once a month, once every other month he would do his, you know. He would go home and meditate, and and you know, do other things, you know. And a year and a half later he was off the Mall.

00:50:27.520 --> 00:50:42.200 madeleine harmath: Okay, and he just kept with it, and he kept coming to see me. He kept meditating. He kept going, you know, doing what he felt was, you know, right for him, and and he managed to shift it

00:50:42.340 --> 00:50:48.929 madeleine harmath: And his entire life changed. And it was amazing. I had another client who came in

00:50:49.340 --> 00:51:01.469 madeleine harmath: who had a lump in her breast, and the doctors had said that she had breast cancer. Now, mind you, when she came in and told me that I already heard from spirit.

00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.849 madeleine harmath: That's not true. She doesn't have it.

00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.550 madeleine harmath: They misdiagnosed her.

00:51:08.700 --> 00:51:12.569 madeleine harmath: or she had already done so much work

00:51:12.810 --> 00:51:36.229 madeleine harmath: that she had transmuted it because she was like, I'm meditating every day I'm going on my walks. I'm doing this. I'm doing that. But my anxiety around this this operation is just killing me. Can you help me? And I'm like absolutely so when she would leave, you know this session she'd be calm. She'd be back in her body. She'd be re grounded. She'd be like, okay. I can go take on the world now.

00:51:36.240 --> 00:51:47.669 madeleine harmath: you know, and she would, and up up until the day before surgery she came to see me with all of these like so just such anxiety around it. And

00:51:48.000 --> 00:52:12.360 madeleine harmath: she had the surgery. She came back 2 weeks later and gave me a hug, and she was like, guess what there was. No, they there was no, there was no cancer, and everything went smoothly, and everything that could have gone wrong, that they totally was gonna go wrong. Nothing happened. And I went. Yeah, II knew that. But you know

00:52:12.410 --> 00:52:28.220 madeleine harmath: so you know, there's this story after story after story, where you know if you really wanted. Don't let anything or anyone tell you can't have it, you know. Because what you believe you create. So if you believe that you can.

00:52:28.390 --> 00:52:46.759 madeleine harmath: You know that you can trans transition this. You can heal it, you will apps. That's where you'll go. That's the direction you will go in. So you know, it's that story of, you know, if you're driving along, and there's a pole on the road and you keep looking at the pole. You're gonna hit the pole right? So

00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.629 madeleine harmath: keep your eye on the results you're interested in.

00:52:50.680 --> 00:53:14.620 madeleine harmath: you know. Keep focusing on the results that you want. Even, you know. II also educate people around talking to Source, and I always tell people all you have to do is ask. You know you're not alone here. You've got this huge support system called the Devine, you know, and whether you're doing it through prayer or just talking to them like you're they're your best friend.

00:53:14.650 --> 00:53:17.959 you know, one of the things they always tell me is.

00:53:17.990 --> 00:53:24.190 madeleine harmath: please tell people to only focus. Ask us for the end result you're interested in.

00:53:24.380 --> 00:53:51.209 madeleine harmath: Okay, so not how to get there. Right? They're like, don't tell us how to do our job, please. Okay, just ask us for the end result. So what is the end result you're looking for. Hopefully, you're interested in something positive. Right? So the end result, just focus on. I'm asking for the end result. Many positive words as you can.

00:53:51.420 --> 00:53:57.519 madeleine harmath: and we'll bring it to you. Just don't tell us. Don't tell us how to do our job. Just just ask us for the

00:53:57.600 --> 00:53:58.860 madeleine harmath: the solution.

00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:06.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I've heard it said that the universe or source only reads images.

00:54:06.620 --> 00:54:25.420 madeleine harmath: which is why you should never say I don't want this or not that because the universe doesn't hear the don't or the not, it only gets the image of the thing you're focusing on. That doesn't resonate with me. Okay,

00:54:25.520 --> 00:54:32.720 madeleine harmath: source is source. And if I'm going to believe that source is all powerful, source can read me just fine.

00:54:32.770 --> 00:54:40.850 madeleine harmath: The reason I think that has become. The thing is because again, focus on the positive

00:54:40.970 --> 00:54:44.129 madeleine harmath: like, don't ask for a double negative.

00:54:44.190 --> 00:54:50.050 madeleine harmath: right? Right? Right? You know. So universe is like, we're love and light.

00:54:50.200 --> 00:54:54.030 madeleine harmath: So if you you know, so be love and light. When you talk to us.

00:54:54.210 --> 00:55:06.789 madeleine harmath: yeah, focus on the positive focus on the end, the solution, the positive, healthy, happy, joyous, abundant, prosperous solution that you're interested in.

00:55:06.860 --> 00:55:32.039 madeleine harmath: And we'll bring that to you. And if and by the way, if the we don't get it right the first time. Ask again. Refine it. You don't get just one chance, you know. Remember all possibilities. You can talk to them all the time, you know. Just just keep asking until you get what you ask for. And sometimes, even when you get what you ask for, you're like, well.

00:55:32.160 --> 00:55:33.170 madeleine harmath: hmm!

00:55:33.310 --> 00:55:42.110 madeleine harmath: Let me let me think about that again, you know, and then ask again. We only got a couple of minutes left. II just want to ask.

00:55:42.530 --> 00:55:49.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are many energy healers out there. I'm sure you've met many people, especially in the Bay area of California.

00:55:50.350 --> 00:55:55.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What would you say? it's your

00:55:55.360 --> 00:56:02.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: special sauce is is like what makes you different from an energy healer down the road from you?

00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:08.730 madeleine harmath: So I always do connect my all my clients into earth and source energy

00:56:08.850 --> 00:56:19.570 madeleine harmath: right out of the gate. And I feel when I when I work on a healing or I'm helping someone heal a trauma, I'm help doing that across all time and space.

00:56:19.750 --> 00:56:38.869 madeleine harmath: Because I do believe in the term. All time is now, and everything's happening simultaneously. So if you really want to let go of a trauma. You have to let it go everywhere simultaneously. That's when you really tap into a very comprehensive efficient, you know, healing. And that's when you see the needle move.

00:56:38.910 --> 00:56:44.250 madeleine harmath: Okay. But I'm also I love being a teacher. I love

00:56:44.260 --> 00:56:51.460 madeleine harmath: teaching people how to do this for themselves. I mean they can come to me and spend oodles of money, or they can just

00:56:51.590 --> 00:57:06.809 madeleine harmath: come to me, and I will teach them everything I know, and then they can work on themselves day in and day out, and get to whatever goals they're interested in, much, much, much, much faster. But I also wanna say that I also have adventures.

00:57:06.810 --> 00:57:29.749 madeleine harmath: I'm all about doing healing, but I'll everybody's so intuitive, and they don't even know how powerful they are, and so I go off into forests, and I, you know, and I help them discover that they can see other realities, dimensions, and universes. They can feel them. They can talk to other beings, and it's really easy.

00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:50.390 madeleine harmath: Don't ever let anybody tell you it's hard. It's so super easy, and people come to my tours, and they're like, I don't know if I can do this. And 3 h later they're like, Oh, when can I come back? This is so totally cool, and you know and ha! Why did anybody tell me I had these abilities? You know. That easy. It's that easy.

00:57:50.510 --> 00:58:10.359 madeleine harmath: You're the supernatural being. You're the metaphysical being. It's like, why would I wanna watch X men when I am an X men, you know. So you know. So come, do that go find the, you know, retreats where you can really tap into the, you know.

00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:30.419 madeleine harmath: surroundings, and really understand just in how powerful you are. Wonderful. Wonderful. Unfortunately, Madeleine, we have to leave it there. We could. I could talk with you for hours, but you only have a limited time on the show. If if people want to learn more about you. Find out about your workbook session. W. Where do they go? Where do they find you?

00:58:30.640 --> 00:58:51.820 madeleine harmath: They can find out my website. Www. Dot savinggraceheeling com. All of my contact information is there my phone numbers there? They can call me. They can text me. They can email me. They can schedule a I do free 30 min consults. So you know. So they have the opportunity to talk to me and see if this is the right path for them.

00:58:51.980 --> 00:58:57.200 madeleine harmath: And they can also schedule healing with me there and about all my classes.

00:58:57.310 --> 00:59:14.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Excellent, excellent, so saving grace, so, Madeleine. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule today to come on my show. It's been a pleasure to speak with you this hour, and and have you relate your story? And I hope our audience really gets

00:59:14.950 --> 00:59:27.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a good sense of you know the wide variety, because I've had so many healers, so many different teachers that everyone's path is different. But it doesn't have to be hard or difficult, does it?

00:59:28.020 --> 00:59:37.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. You're so welcome, you're so welcome, and of course, thank you. Our loyal listeners for tuning in each week.

00:59:37.770 --> 00:59:57.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Without you there is no show. And just as a reminder, in case you missed any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on talkradio Dot, Nyc and on all the various podcasting platforms. Google applesify Pandora and all over social media.

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