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Thursday, February 8, 2024
Facebook Live Video from 2024/02/08-Spirit Seeker Salicrow

Facebook Live Video from 2024/02/08-Spirit Seeker Salicrow


2024/02/08-Spirit Seeker Salicrow

[NEW EPISODE] Spirit Seeker Salicrow

This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Witch, Druid, and Psychic Medium, Salicrow.

Salicrow is a witch, Druid, and natural psychic medium who carries on the magical traditions of her Irish Traveler and Blackfoot heritage. With over 30 years of professional experience in the psychic arts, she offers psychic readings for individuals and

groups and teaches workshops throughout the United States and internationally. She lives in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont.

Her latest book, Spirit Speaker: A Medium's Guide to Death and Dying is a compassionate and straightforward guide to the spiritual process of death and spirit communication. Seeking to normalize the spiritual aspects of end-of-life care, she explains how active dying exists outside of normal reality, in a state in which the dying person and their caregivers often experience a heightened state of consciousness.

Tune in and share your questions and comments about the great transition at the end of life on our YouTube livestream or on our Facebook page

Show Notes

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00:00:45.820 --> 00:01:05.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: good afternoon. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from welcome to the conscious, consultant hour awakening to me humanity. I am very, very pleased that you're all here with me today. We've got a wonderful show in store for you, with a fascinating guest.

00:01:05.700 --> 00:01:19.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm sure you're gonna like her. It's gonna be a great show of. And did you catch last week's show? I did not get Llama, my Crowley, on my show last week. Unfortunately he was sick, but we've we rescheduled him

00:01:19.190 --> 00:01:26.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for the end of May. So look for that announcement when it comes out. I'm I'm really looking forward to have Mike Crowley. Come on the show

00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:43.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: all right, so let's start off as we do with a little blog post from a couple of years ago. Again, I'm just going through these in order. So let's see how much this may may be real. Relate what we end up talking about today.

00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:47.180 And the title of this blog post is.

00:01:47.350 --> 00:01:52.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: knowledge is valuable, but support is priceless.

00:01:53.170 --> 00:02:00.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is a lot of information out there. information about how to do a lot of things

00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:03.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for some people that's enough

00:02:03.320 --> 00:02:11.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet for most of us we need something more. for we all know how to do a lot of things

00:02:11.780 --> 00:02:14.509 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like losing weight or getting in shape.

00:02:15.150 --> 00:02:26.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and few of us actually take the steps to do it. to keep to a schedule, or to be disciplined enough to do something when we don't feel like it.

00:02:26.860 --> 00:02:33.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The curious thing is, we will do stuff for other people before we do things for ourselves.

00:02:34.150 --> 00:02:38.309 If we know we are being held accountable by some one else.

00:02:38.320 --> 00:02:51.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we are much more likely to get something done. even if they are not our boss or Co. Worker. just having a friend check in on us and ask if we did what we said we

00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:56.829 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: do can be motivation enough for us to complete a task

00:02:58.430 --> 00:03:11.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yet, left to ourselves, we never finish it. and then we only feel bad about ourselves that we didn't do what we said we wanted to do. Even if we only set it to ourselves.

00:03:12.300 --> 00:03:19.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We know what we follow through on and what we know, what we followed through on and what we didn't.

00:03:19.590 --> 00:03:25.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That is why support and accountability are so magical.

00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:33.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: even if we know all the steps, just having some one remind us, and check in on us makes all the difference.

00:03:34.050 --> 00:03:37.530 It makes walking the path so much easier.

00:03:37.610 --> 00:03:43.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We become more motivated because we don't feel like we are all alone.

00:03:43.590 --> 00:03:56.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: having that kind of support. Structure is invaluable. Knowing that there is some one there to ask us how it is going is priceless beyond measure.

00:03:58.100 --> 00:04:07.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and being able to ask someone a question just to make sure, even if we know what we are doing, helps us to have that

00:04:07.350 --> 00:04:12.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: touch, more confidence. We needed to stick to our decision.

00:04:12.880 --> 00:04:29.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There are a lot of ways to find information to day, virtually anything we would want to know is on line somewhere. having a community, or even an individual, to hold our hand and keep us accountable as so precious.

00:04:30.220 --> 00:04:42.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Couldn't we all use a little more support and accountability. Is there someone out there that would support you and hold you accountable for something you want to do?

00:04:43.970 --> 00:04:44.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So

00:04:45.170 --> 00:04:55.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I wrote this blog post, and it's it's it's an homage actually to my dear friend Iman, who had come on my show my first show of the year back in January

00:04:56.740 --> 00:05:01.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: cause, he built his whole business around this notion that

00:05:02.280 --> 00:05:10.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: knowledge is kind of free these days, and especially now with AI, and especially now that, like

00:05:10.610 --> 00:05:17.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: pretty much anything anybody wants to know, you can find online somewhere, somehow.

00:05:19.110 --> 00:05:23.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it's no longer really a game of gaining more knowledge.

00:05:24.090 --> 00:05:33.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: As a matter of fact, there's almost too much knowledge out there. We need to find ways to filter it and categorize and to make it accessible that we can take

00:05:33.390 --> 00:05:35.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: chunk-sized pieces of it.

00:05:37.060 --> 00:05:44.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But really it's about, what are we going to do with that knowledge? How do we take what we've learned and really implement it.

00:05:45.710 --> 00:06:04.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and the most obvious things, of course, is like losing weight. I remember a a silver used to say, you know, hey, you wanna lose weight. It's easy. Eat less, move more right? It's not a secret. It's nothing so esoteric that we need to understand.

00:06:04.950 --> 00:06:09.159 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but actually doing it. That's where we need the support.

00:06:10.020 --> 00:06:18.900 And and someone had pointed out long, long time ago to me that you know, when you have someone checking into saying, Hey, did you do that thing you said you were gonna do

00:06:18.960 --> 00:06:30.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like we'll rush the night before to go and make sure we get it done, because we know that person's going to ask us the next day. But would we do it if that person wasn't there asking us, would we do it for ourselves

00:06:30.460 --> 00:06:36.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: somehow, just our motivation is just not there as much

00:06:37.620 --> 00:06:40.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when there's nobody to work with on it.

00:06:41.820 --> 00:06:55.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but just knowing that that someone's going to check in on you that there's that accountability person on the other end of the phone sending you that text saying, Hey, you said you were going to get this done by the end of the week. Did you get it done? Just just checking in

00:06:56.230 --> 00:06:59.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it it. It moves us in such a way.

00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:15.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And this is true for all aspects of life. This is why. if we want to start a new spiritual practice, we find a group. This is why we want to engage in a new

00:07:15.310 --> 00:07:18.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: modality of healing. We try and find a group

00:07:18.880 --> 00:07:26.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: community that can hold us and hold the energy of where we want to go.

00:07:26.580 --> 00:07:28.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's so valuable.

00:07:30.400 --> 00:07:39.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and especially in this country. We we're so brought up in this idea that you know, doing it all on your own and being an individual.

00:07:40.740 --> 00:07:45.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we forget that we're an individual in the context of a community.

00:07:46.990 --> 00:07:49.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that when we want to get something done.

00:07:50.860 --> 00:07:56.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: whether it's starting a new meditation practice losing weight, exercising

00:07:58.030 --> 00:08:02.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being better at public speaking. I mean, just take your pick. It doesn't matter

00:08:03.150 --> 00:08:04.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: anything.

00:08:06.080 --> 00:08:16.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's so much easier when we know that there's support and accountability somewhere around. Whatever it is we want to engage in. That's new.

00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:26.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my blog post. Knowledge is valuable, but support is priceless.

00:08:27.080 --> 00:08:42.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you can find all of my blog posts. There's a lot of them up on the website, talkradio, dot Nyc slash blog. And you can also find it on my own website, the

00:08:43.520 --> 00:08:55.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show which Druid psychic medium, Sally Crow.

00:08:55.250 --> 00:09:18.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sally Crowe. Is a natural psychic medium who carries on the magical traditions of her Irish traveler and Blackfoot heritage. With over 30 years of professional experience in the psychic arts. She offers psychic readings for individuals and groups, and teaches workshops throughout the Us. And internationally she lives in the northeast kingdom of Vermont, right up near the border.

00:09:18.860 --> 00:09:39.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Her latest book, Spirit Seeker, a Medium's Guide to death and Dying, is a compassionate and straightforward guide to the spiritual process of death and spirit communication, seeking to normalize the spiritual aspects of end of life care. She explains how active dying exists outside of normal reality.

00:09:39.570 --> 00:09:51.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in a state in which the dying person and their caregivers often experience a heightened state of consciousness. I really look forward to this conversation. Welcome to the conscious. Consult now, our Sally Crone.

00:09:51.410 --> 00:09:53.239 Salicrow: Thank you for having me

00:09:53.280 --> 00:09:59.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: my pleasure, my pleasure. So I'm just curious. What sort of

00:09:59.470 --> 00:10:14.999 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: got you started on this spiritual path? Was this something that was just in your household that you were raised with. Was there a particular incident that happened when you were younger? That got you to say like, oh, like something more to this world than I thought.

00:10:15.650 --> 00:10:17.830 Salicrow: Yeah, so

00:10:18.210 --> 00:10:23.339 Salicrow: my parents were very young. My father was just out of Vietnam, and my mom was actually a teenager.

00:10:23.430 --> 00:10:33.130 Salicrow: and so my father had been raised by his grandmother. So my great-grandmother ended up being a huge part of my childhood.

00:10:33.170 --> 00:10:55.230 Salicrow: and she was a person who had psychic abilities. She didn't call it that, but people went to visit her to buy worms for fishing or to get some of her food, but really they were coming, and they were sitting down and visiting with their dead. They were getting simple medicines, cause she was an herbalist. They were having readings done

00:10:55.240 --> 00:11:02.910 Salicrow: myself and one of my sisters, who's a year and a half younger than me. Both had significant gifts

00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.659 Salicrow: from early early childhood. My first experience was spirit

00:11:08.030 --> 00:11:22.199 Salicrow: technically happened when I was 3 months old, and was more of a story. I was told about how my father's mother had visited me, and my grandmother had been told by my spirits that I would be a medium, so I was being taught

00:11:22.770 --> 00:11:33.500 Salicrow: from the time that I can remember. And sometimes it was really simple, like spirits. Talk to you, Sally. It's okay. There was a lot of games.

00:11:33.710 --> 00:11:48.540 Salicrow: it was. It was definitely an interesting childhood, and I didn't think anything was unusual about it. And because it was, she would just make it so normal. So even going to school when teachers started talking about

00:11:48.890 --> 00:12:01.109 Salicrow: imaginary friends. I just figured she was talking about the other kids having imaginary friends, not mine, because mine were seen by my grandmother. Mine were seen by my sister, so there wasn't a lot of need

00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:10.540 Salicrow: for faith in it. Do you know what I mean? There was a lot like, we're all having this experience. So here we go.

00:12:10.560 --> 00:12:12.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow, wow!

00:12:12.290 --> 00:12:30.939 Salicrow: And and did you keep that connection like through high school and college cause? II know many psychics who like were born with that ability. But then, when they discovered, like other kids, didn't have it, they kind of shut it down in order not to be the weird one in school.

00:12:31.140 --> 00:12:37.799 Salicrow: But no, I by the time that my grandmother died when I was 12, and then I started, you know

00:12:38.040 --> 00:13:01.970 Salicrow: doing my own kind of research on numerology dreams spirit communication, mostly through form of Wuji board at that point with my friends. But I was the one who the spirit always wanted to talk to and then, by the time I was 18 I was working professionally. Not full time. But I was doing professional readings for the public as psychic reader, not as a medium. That didn't happen. I didn't feel comfortable with that

00:13:02.570 --> 00:13:04.119 Salicrow: until I was about 30

00:13:04.570 --> 00:13:08.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: mmm. Gotcha gotcha. And

00:13:09.800 --> 00:13:38.089 Salicrow: you, from what I understand, you consider yourself a witch and a Druid. Did that practice kind of develop alongside all of this? Or did that develop later? Yeah, my grandmother never would have called herself, or which her father was an Irish traveler. Her mother was native American, and so these were just really normal. The words, like psychic and witchcraft, never came into the discussion. But I started studying Wicca when I was

00:13:38.090 --> 00:13:42.259 Salicrow: 23. I don't consider myself wiccan, but I did study it.

00:13:42.260 --> 00:13:49.550 Salicrow: And first book I was told my husband the other day the first book I ever read on witchcraft.

00:13:49.780 --> 00:13:51.120 Salicrow: I read, and I was like.

00:13:51.150 --> 00:13:59.099 Salicrow: I do all of these things like it wasn't like, oh, I want to do this. It was like, Oh, wait a minute I do this.

00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:09.690 Salicrow: so yeah. And drudry. I started studying when, after I'd had my major opening to spirit. But I knew I had past life memories of being a Druid, and I literally

00:14:09.820 --> 00:14:22.560 Salicrow: just knew that was what I was supposed to do. So when I saw a poster for it somewhere. I was just like, I need to go do this training. And it was very. It was good. I learned a lot about myself through it.

00:14:22.770 --> 00:14:24.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow, wow!

00:14:24.780 --> 00:14:51.320 Salicrow: So so there was really like no point in your path where you ever kind of doubted any of this stuff, or thought, you know, maybe you're going crazy, or any of that. When I had my major opening to spirit when I was 30, I did quit. I mean, it was like I was already reading for the public. I was already a Raki master and 6 schools of Reki, but my opening to spirit was so profound that if I didn't have the partner that I have.

00:14:51.560 --> 00:15:05.379 Salicrow: I might have checked myself into a mental hospital because it was so intense. But you know I was purposely being trained by 5 spirits. So it was I was being put through the

00:15:05.830 --> 00:15:19.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The gambit, if you will. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Through the crucible. How about when we come? We gotta go out to break when we come back from break. Can we talk a little bit about that spirit opening and then and then we'll get into

00:15:19.290 --> 00:15:30.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the your book and and kind of where that came from, and why the sort of end of life kind of a mediumship you feel is so important now. Okay.

00:15:31.450 --> 00:15:47.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one pm, Eastern time right here on talk radio, dot. Nyc, all across social media on Youtube and Facebook and Twitter and Linkedin

00:15:48.040 --> 00:15:54.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Pint twitch, and we will be right back with our guest, Sally Crowe, in just a moment.

00:17:47.970 --> 00:17:50.950 and you

00:18:10.430 --> 00:18:21.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with which Druid and psychic medium, Sally Crowe. So, Sally, you said that

00:18:22.060 --> 00:18:33.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When you were 30 you had your big kind of spiritual opening, can you maybe just give us a little bit of an idea of like what happened right before. And what was that experience like for you?

00:18:34.620 --> 00:18:50.400 Salicrow: Well, I am a very much like when you asked if I've always been involved in this. I am a very dedicated person, and I have literally studied the psychic guards my whole life like it was my own passion as well. So

00:18:50.470 --> 00:19:11.290 Salicrow: in my twenties at the time I had my breaking master in 3 schools break. Yeah, I have it in multiple more since then, but I was working as a psychic. I was working as a healer, and I was working on expanding my own consciousness constantly, and I had

00:19:11.290 --> 00:19:31.759 Salicrow: a moment with. I had always seen spirit. If there was a haunted house, or if there was spirit around they, I'd always seen them. They always presented themselves to me. I often would have dreams about them. When I needed to do something in like go talk to somebody who's gonna die or something, and

00:19:32.090 --> 00:19:38.720 Salicrow: I called it the November incident, because it literally started on November first. and I

00:19:40.340 --> 00:19:56.489 Salicrow: one of somebody who was close to me kept, who, who had passed kept showing up in my hitting my radar like I kept hearing their name. I kept seeing them. I knew that they were trying to communicate with me. So that was kind of the start, and at the time I

00:19:56.510 --> 00:20:22.159 Salicrow: had a ouij board at my house. So that's what I started with, and I but I'd never used it by myself. I had all the no fear of spirit, but all the superstition that came from eighties, movies, and and all that. But I knew it was a tool. So I win. I was like, Okay, what are you trying to tell me? And that was actually the beginning of this huge opening, and I had a team of spirits 5 spirits in particular, who were working on.

00:20:22.840 --> 00:20:34.330 Salicrow: You know they were telling me that that's what I was really supposed to be doing. And I was like, Well, I've been reading cards for like 15 years or something not 15 years well, probably close to 15 years at that time.

00:20:34.600 --> 00:20:35.940 Salicrow: you know, in 10 years.

00:20:36.470 --> 00:20:48.330 Salicrow: publicly at least. And I was like, I can't see that this is what I'm supposed to be doing, but it came on hard and strong. They made me look at everything about me.

00:20:48.630 --> 00:20:51.710 Salicrow: And I was having Kundalini openings

00:20:51.850 --> 00:21:05.589 Salicrow: regularly that I didn't even know what they were. The only time I've ever had to have a house call from my Reiki master was during that time period when I was about a month into it, I finally called him, and I was like, Look.

00:21:06.320 --> 00:21:24.089 Salicrow: I need you to come up here. And when I met him at the door. I was like, I just need you to listen to me and tell me that I'm not crazy. And he was not a psychic in the way that I was. He had had out of my experiences most of his life. He was a great healer, but he was not somebody who had precognitive experiences or

00:21:24.140 --> 00:21:29.970 Salicrow: but he was able to, because he was educated, was able to help me to understand what was happening to me.

00:21:30.470 --> 00:21:36.050 Salicrow: I actually wrote my first book, Jump Girl. The Initiation and Art of a Spirit Speaker

00:21:36.070 --> 00:21:52.179 Salicrow: was a book that was my memoir of growing up psychic and of the November incident what happened, and I wrote about it very in detail. I knew during that time period they told me that I would write books. They told me I'd be on television. I was like

00:21:52.680 --> 00:22:01.390 Salicrow: in one of the most rural places in the country. Why am I living here? If you have all these expectations for me.

00:22:01.930 --> 00:22:08.520 Salicrow: But they kept even told me that everything would come to me, and literally I was

00:22:08.560 --> 00:22:17.320 Salicrow: discovered by Robert Simmons, who is a significant person in the crystal world who came to my house

00:22:17.390 --> 00:22:27.899 Salicrow: for a reading and cause. He has a business in Vermont, and I had been doing work with one of his friends, and so he came for a reading, and he came back for another reading.

00:22:27.990 --> 00:22:36.549 Salicrow: Then he asked me to do a presentation at a big event he was doing, and then he introduced me to

00:22:36.560 --> 00:22:37.810 Salicrow: my publisher.

00:22:37.970 --> 00:22:42.119 Salicrow: and when I met my publisher he was visiting Vermont.

00:22:42.250 --> 00:22:48.220 Salicrow: Which is Richard Grassinger, and I've worked with him in 2 different publishing houses.

00:22:48.330 --> 00:22:50.580 Salicrow: and Richard.

00:22:50.910 --> 00:22:52.790 Salicrow: I went to visit him.

00:22:53.160 --> 00:23:06.210 Salicrow: and I had never written anything more than blogging, but I had blogged for quite a while, but I sat down with him. I did spirit communication for him, and he was online with his publishing house before I was even done

00:23:06.210 --> 00:23:31.520 Salicrow: so, and I was signed with a contract within like a month. So my story, if people are going through something I do recommend. Jump, girl, because when people come to visit me now, they literally come with pieces of paper or things underlined and highlighted. And what they're highlighting is things that had happened to them. But they didn't know what it was, but because I had the benefit of an education.

00:23:32.090 --> 00:23:44.250 Salicrow: I could look at these things that happened to me, and then I continued to educate myself. I could look at it and say, This is what this was, and this is actually pretty normal. One of the most beneficial things I had, though, was one of the spirits

00:23:44.280 --> 00:23:49.940 Salicrow: named Adam was my youngest sister's best friend in life, and he died at 23 years old.

00:23:50.260 --> 00:23:54.610 Salicrow: He got malaria and visiting Costa Rica, and

00:23:54.670 --> 00:24:03.729 Salicrow: I had always loved Adam, but I didn't realize I was 5 years older than my sister. I didn't really know a lot about him, so he was the perfect person, because

00:24:03.830 --> 00:24:12.380 Salicrow: he could tell me things that were like conversations. Him and my sister had private things about himself that I was able to call my youngest sister and be like.

00:24:12.430 --> 00:24:13.710 Salicrow: Hey.

00:24:13.790 --> 00:24:17.920 Salicrow: is this? Does this make sense to you, and so

00:24:18.030 --> 00:24:25.290 Salicrow: I was very fortunate. Mine was something that was planned by me. Every time they put me through something horrible.

00:24:25.540 --> 00:24:27.320 Salicrow: Adam would say to me he'd be like.

00:24:28.180 --> 00:24:53.969 Salicrow: well, Sally, this was what you wanted us to do, and when you'd say it I knew it was true, because I called my first book jump, girl, because I'm the kind of person who stands on the edge and counts to 3 and jumps in and hopes I can figure my way out. So throwing me in the fire was what had to happen for me. But it doesn't have to happen that way for everybody. It's just that's my personality.

00:24:54.410 --> 00:25:02.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm curious. You've been doing this a long time. I'm sure you've seen a lot of changes in the world, a lot of changes in society.

00:25:02.820 --> 00:25:13.949 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do you find that when people come to you now for readings or for guidance. that there's a different quality to the questions people ask than there was, say, 1020 years ago.

00:25:14.770 --> 00:25:15.840 Salicrow: I,

00:25:16.130 --> 00:25:34.749 Salicrow: in the last couple of years have really noticed. I mean, I've noticed I talk about the fact. I think we're going through psychic evolution. And I've been tracking this my whole career. So about 2,011, I started to notice an uptick in the amount of people who are having psychic phenomenon experiences.

00:25:34.760 --> 00:25:58.879 Salicrow: and that has continued to grow and grow and grow. And these aren't just people who are seeking anymore. These are people who, you know, would be happy with going to work getting together their family on the weekend, maybe going to a game or going to go shopping, or something simple, and they were showing up at my office like thinking they were going crazy. They didn't know what was happening to them. They had never courted this kind of stuff.

00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:02.189 Salicrow: But and in the last couple of years

00:26:02.390 --> 00:26:12.830 Salicrow: I have my career changed. A lot like through books and being, on podcasts and on Gaia and stuff like that. I

00:26:13.010 --> 00:26:14.809 Salicrow: have a global.

00:26:15.120 --> 00:26:29.380 Salicrow: You know, my clients are now over 30 countries, and what I find is that I am getting a lot more serious seekers to the point where I started a mentorship program for people who were, you know.

00:26:29.580 --> 00:26:52.859 Salicrow: who are, which is what I always wanted to do. I hated having to just teach teach beginner classes over and over again. I think they're really valuable. But I was like, I want to help. People who are want to get more in depth really want to advance their spiritual practice? Yeah, so and that there is, there's a lot. It's a really exciting time to be alive. And you know, as far as people opening their consciousness

00:26:53.150 --> 00:26:54.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: right? Right?

00:26:54.710 --> 00:27:22.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so speaking of books, I'm just curious from from all the things you're doing. What kind of inspired you to write your latest book, spirit Seeker and Medium's Guide to death and dying cause ye, you know it's re interesting. A lot of people have left the planet in the last 3 years. And a lot of people are dealing with it. But it's something that I see much more in the conversation than than there has ever been before. Just talking about death in this society. Talking about death is like, no, no, no, we don't do that.

00:27:23.070 --> 00:27:39.749 Salicrow: Yeah. So I wrote 2. I had 2 books come out within a year of each other, and one of them was huge that was on elemental witchcraft. And then I wrote Spirit speaker. My publishers didn't even know I handed it into them done. It's a small book purposely. It's only about 100 pages.

00:27:39.860 --> 00:28:09.389 Salicrow: and I did that because it was a book that I wrote for my clients, because when people come to me for spirit communication. There were questions that they asked over and over and over again about what happened when somebody died. What happened? If the person, you know was responsible for their own passing. What happened while they were in the process of dying. I had experiences with spirit when I was taking care of my dying loved one. Why did that happen to me.

00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:15.949 Salicrow: you know? So this book was in many ways was my gift to my clients

00:28:16.020 --> 00:28:29.010 Salicrow: of trying to normalize the process of death and dying, and what they can expect when it comes to what's happening to somebody when they cross over? How are you know. What are they experiencing?

00:28:29.030 --> 00:28:33.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What? What do you think is the biggest misconception people have about dying

00:28:35.020 --> 00:28:37.320 Salicrow: that we're gonna be punished.

00:28:37.910 --> 00:28:42.409 Salicrow: Okay? Like, I think that dogma

00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:55.690 Salicrow: is very much responsible for that from multiple different religions. But in my experience as a medium I have never met anybody who was being punished. I've met people who are in what I call timeout.

00:28:55.780 --> 00:29:11.460 Salicrow: I call it timeout, because I think of it like the timeout chair when a kid is you don't sit them there to punish them. You put them there so they can reflect on their actions so they can see how those actions affected other people. So even when people have done

00:29:12.370 --> 00:29:26.820 Salicrow: really bad things a lot of times. What they're doing is they're having to watch the people that they did the bad things to having to see the different perspectives. And they're but they're doing so through a

00:29:26.850 --> 00:29:53.159 Salicrow: lens. That's more like watching television. Because when we die, our emotions get turned down. So this makes it so that we can understand a bigger perspective. Because, you know, there's a lot of people who are literally drowning in their emotions because they never heal trauma. And then we're in that place, we're likely to create more trauma. And so when we die, I talk about it as a volume dial that

00:29:53.190 --> 00:30:05.079 Salicrow: of 0 to 10, that before we're alive most of us are at 3 or 4. Some people might be an 8 or a 9 because they're struggling. But when we die that volume gets turned down to about a 2

00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:15.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: gotcha gotcha. Okay, time for us. Take another break. But when we come back I really want to talk about

00:30:15.670 --> 00:30:20.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sort of how to prepare for that and event. And

00:30:20.610 --> 00:30:22.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then what can people

00:30:22.710 --> 00:30:39.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: start to do now cause. I know a lot of people who are dealing with aging parents, aging relatives and friends and Co. Workers like, what can people do to help them dealing with the process of losing people loved ones around them. Okay.

00:30:39.950 --> 00:30:49.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful. So everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. Our guest this hour is Sally Crow, author medium

00:30:49.950 --> 00:30:55.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: druid psychic witch. And we will be right back in just a moment.

00:33:00.060 --> 00:33:14.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Mr. Sally Crow. these days. you know, between the pandemic, between just I kind of feel like the world is more stressful because things are changing so quickly for people.

00:33:14.990 --> 00:33:27.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A a lot of people are leaving either very suddenly, through accidents, through sudden heart attacks? Or what have you, or even through prolonged illness?

00:33:29.340 --> 00:33:35.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How do you counsel the family members of of those people who are losing loved ones?

00:33:35.710 --> 00:33:44.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How they can deal with that loss and that grief and not be overwhelmed by it, because it feels like it's all around us these days.

00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:55.399 Salicrow: Yeah, that's a good question. Well, for one thing, I encourage people to develop a living relationship with their dad.

00:33:55.890 --> 00:33:57.580 Salicrow: which means that

00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:04.010 Salicrow: the relationship has to change because the person is no longer physically there, and

00:34:04.570 --> 00:34:05.980 Salicrow: we may not

00:34:06.250 --> 00:34:15.760 Salicrow: feel them, as it, you know, might take us a while to be able to feel them, because we have been taught that that's impossible, or

00:34:15.820 --> 00:34:40.879 Salicrow: our even our own grief can sometimes make it harder for us to receive communication while the woman we work with might be telling us that our dad's with us. We might not be able to see them or feel them, because we're blocking it with our grief. So the first thing I usually tell people is to create a sacred space in which they can interact with their dad. So an altar, a shrine. And I talk about the difference between cause. I have clients who

00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:46.380 Salicrow: lock away a room as a mausoleum. This happens if a child dies.

00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:54.169 Salicrow: Okay, the door gets shut. No one goes in there. Everything stays the same that's unhealthy.

00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.599 Salicrow: Yeah, it's okay to do that for a short amount of time.

00:34:57.980 --> 00:35:01.910 Salicrow: But we're never going to move on if we've got that locked mausoleum in our house.

00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:31.500 Salicrow: and but we need to have some place where we can recognize this person, and that's why I say, like a shrine, an altar, an altar could simply just be a shelf that you put pictures of your loved one on. Maybe some, you know, symbols of your religious belief some things that you know, maybe seashells because they love the ocean, whatever it's yours to design. But it's a place where we can regularly sit and talk, and I usually tell people put a candle on it.

00:35:31.500 --> 00:35:41.650 Salicrow: sit for 5 min every day and talk to that loved one, and we will start to heal, and we'll start to develop

00:35:41.650 --> 00:35:59.640 Salicrow: a different kind of relationship. And many people will start to receive some kind of sign that they're being heard. Okay, the hard part is is that television ex and movies exaggerate everything. So

00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:11.080 Salicrow: what is subtle in a movie is can't be subtle for us all to get it. And so I tell people it's not gonna be big, flashing lights. There's not going to be, you know this.

00:36:11.410 --> 00:36:35.700 Salicrow: you know. Sometimes there can be things that are rock your world. But for the most part it's going to be simple things that remind us that that person is around the other thing that I think is super important in seeking that communication is to take the words like maybe kind of and think so out of our vocabulary, because people write off their experiences all the time. They say something like.

00:36:36.090 --> 00:36:38.689 Salicrow: I think I just saw my grandmother out of the corner. My eye.

00:36:38.700 --> 00:36:39.749 Salicrow: and I'm like.

00:36:39.980 --> 00:36:48.149 Salicrow: Well, why don't you say that without the word? Think in it? And then they say I saw my grandmother out of the corner. My eye, I'm like, well, how do you feel about that? And they're like I saw my grandmother.

00:36:48.220 --> 00:36:49.230 Salicrow: So

00:36:49.450 --> 00:36:52.700 Salicrow: we have trained ourselves to

00:36:52.740 --> 00:36:55.610 Salicrow: approach spiritual experiences with doubt.

00:36:56.150 --> 00:36:57.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes.

00:36:57.270 --> 00:37:01.779 Salicrow: but what would make you suddenly, when you're in the middle of doing something.

00:37:01.900 --> 00:37:04.930 Salicrow: Think that your grandmother was standing in the corner of the room.

00:37:05.170 --> 00:37:11.580 Salicrow: To me it's more logical that she's standing in the corner of the room than you. Just suddenly, while you were making dinner.

00:37:11.720 --> 00:37:12.789 Salicrow: Thought about that

00:37:14.020 --> 00:37:22.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: right? Right? Right? Because it's out of the normal. So there has to be something to kind of instigate that experience that

00:37:22.810 --> 00:37:31.079 Salicrow: that's out of context from where you are in that moment exactly, and also people don't realize. But our sense of smell

00:37:31.130 --> 00:37:46.380 Salicrow: is one of the major ways in which people have experiences with spirit. You know, we don't question our olfactory senses. In fact, one of the things when I was picking my father up from the airport at 1 point.

00:37:46.530 --> 00:38:00.149 Salicrow: and he got in my car, and he's like I don't know what it is, but the older I get the more I smell like Gram, and I'm like, Dad, you don't smell like Gram. You're smelling Graham. His logical brain told him that he was starting to smell like an old lady, and I'm like

00:38:00.240 --> 00:38:07.459 Salicrow: that's not what's happening. But people will do that. They will come up with this. Well, maybe it's this, instead of.

00:38:07.660 --> 00:38:09.929 Salicrow: you know, thinking outside that box.

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:26.720 Salicrow: The other part that's important to remember is that it's really only a modern concept that we can't have communication with our dead. So many cultures still have things woven into it, into their religious beliefs about honoring their dead.

00:38:26.930 --> 00:38:48.279 Salicrow: communicating with their dad. This is actually normal. That's how I was raised that it was normal to expect that our loved ones would be around us after they passed. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you just even look at at indigenous cultures around the world that are relatively, you know, been able to keep their traditions and relatively untouched by mind society. They all

00:38:48.280 --> 00:39:11.839 Salicrow: believe in in communicating with the ancestors, and and that that the the loved ones who've passed, or there with them all the time. And this is not just, you know, some indigenous cultures in one place. This is around the globe right? I, have had 3 Japanese exchange students, but my kids were in high school, and the second one we had was really good at

00:39:12.060 --> 00:39:21.720 Salicrow: English, so they would sleep in my healing room at the time, and after looking at all the books I came, had he came down, and he told me. He's like, you're like a Shinto priest.

00:39:22.500 --> 00:39:34.509 Salicrow: That was how he related to what I did, because they heal. They honor their ancestors. They sometimes know things, and so we just, you know.

00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:44.360 Salicrow: I think that modern culture with television and movies has made it so that things are either way blown out of proportion

00:39:44.380 --> 00:39:46.769 Salicrow: or they don't exist.

00:39:46.830 --> 00:39:55.370 Salicrow: We're not. Ha, you know, like we they're make believe they've been, if you will

00:39:55.770 --> 00:40:07.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: ye? You know it's interesting. In the last few years I've I have a couple of friends who've become death doolers who who kinda help with that process of dying. And

00:40:08.020 --> 00:40:10.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, when I think about it.

00:40:11.390 --> 00:40:25.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I've actually come to appreciate some of the rituals around dying, you know, being Jewish, and we sit shiver, and we're supposed to sits sit Shiva for 7 days. But then, after that, it's done, you're not supposed to mourn anymore.

00:40:25.350 --> 00:40:30.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and I never really appreciated the value of that kind of ritual. Has.

00:40:32.080 --> 00:40:39.749 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are there any rituals you would recommend to people to help them when they know someone is, is getting ready to pass?

00:40:40.080 --> 00:40:56.260 Salicrow: Well, first of all, your own spiritual and religious beliefs are super helpful. They have been created by different cultures and religions in order to help people with that crying, you know, like, I'm primarily Irish.

00:40:56.340 --> 00:40:57.710 Salicrow: And

00:40:58.520 --> 00:41:07.850 Salicrow: we, you know, like keening is an old tradition from Celtic countries where people and I was thinking about it the other day because

00:41:08.090 --> 00:41:31.090 Salicrow: I do that a lot. I cry so easily that I could be that person for somebody like when they a lot of people don't know how to mourn, and I recently went to a funeral for a young woman that I helped cross, and she was very tragic. She had been in a bad accident 2 and a half years before she was a theater person, so her

00:41:31.100 --> 00:41:33.349 Salicrow: ceremony was at a theater.

00:41:33.580 --> 00:41:41.860 Salicrow: and they sang show tunes, her favorite show tunes, and the second person who got on the stage could not

00:41:42.120 --> 00:41:45.390 Salicrow: control herself from crying. and

00:41:46.180 --> 00:41:56.340 Salicrow: the others. People had to come out and help her sing. But this affected the crowd in exactly the same way that keening would. Everybody was bawling.

00:41:56.500 --> 00:42:13.030 Salicrow: and people who didn't always give themselves permission to mourn. Mourning is super important like you're saying, like we have to like saying, 7 days of intentional mourning. That means you are looking at this loss. You're not hiding it. It's not.

00:42:13.120 --> 00:42:21.919 Salicrow: you know, 2 weeks of Cass rolls awake in a funeral. And you're supposed to be okay. There's actually something that acknowledges that you're not gonna be okay.

00:42:21.950 --> 00:42:24.819 Salicrow: and not being okay is perfectly normal.

00:42:25.050 --> 00:42:25.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Ray.

00:42:26.560 --> 00:42:29.290 right? Yeah, that was one of the things I remember

00:42:30.830 --> 00:42:35.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: was years ago. But I remember some one saying to me how

00:42:36.190 --> 00:42:50.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when, when somebody had lost someone and they came to them that, like, everyone kept saying, Oh, you're gonna be okay. You're gonna be okay. And the guy said, No, you're not gonna be okay. It sucks they're gone, and that hurts.

00:42:50.540 --> 00:43:06.939 Salicrow: And that acknowledgement, I think. And that validation help that person more than anyone saying, Oh, you're going to be okay. Yeah. I tell my clients not to make any major decisions or large purchases for at least 9 months

00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:14.579 Salicrow: that they're going to have to recreate, especially if it's a big loss, like a loved one, that you have a personal relationship with.

00:43:15.310 --> 00:43:29.060 Salicrow: Everything about your life is gonna change, because that person is no longer going to be influencing the way that you think, the way that you act. There's a change that's gonna happen for you that's gonna be different. You're not gonna be the same person after going through a major death.

00:43:29.890 --> 00:43:33.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

00:43:35.630 --> 00:43:48.059 Salicrow: Do you still sometimes have a hard time when a relative, a loved one crosses over. I do my father passed in 2,012, and I was

00:43:48.150 --> 00:44:00.300 Salicrow: there, you know, for his passing, which was beautiful, and my dad was a super active spirit, but I still found that the parts that I miss is not being able to get a hug.

00:44:01.490 --> 00:44:28.140 Salicrow: Not I still have my father's sarcasm and his personality in my head. Regularly he speaks up, but there's the physical aspect, that of somebody taking up space in our life. That we will, we will miss, no matter what. Even if we are the best medium out there, we're not going to be able to have that full fleshed out feeling of that person being in our life. And

00:44:28.330 --> 00:44:37.539 Salicrow: you know I actually got pneumonia after my father passed, and pneumonia is very common. For grief that we haven't expressed.

00:44:37.950 --> 00:44:55.099 Salicrow: Yeah, cause it affects the lungs right? Yeah. So that was made me have to take the time out I needed because I was like, well, I can handle this. I'm a medium. And then I ended up with, Well, guess what you're playing on your couch for the next week and a half. And

00:44:55.500 --> 00:44:56.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah.

00:44:56.750 --> 00:45:18.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oftentimes, when I hear people say, like they. They get sick. I'm like, Yeah, your body is trying to give you a big message. You better listen to it. And sometimes the message is just slow down sometimes the messages you need space to deal with something right now. Quick and easy

00:45:18.790 --> 00:45:28.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: matter of fact, it rarely is quick, adhesive. wonderful, wonderful. Okay, it's time to take our last break of the show when we come back.

00:45:28.270 --> 00:45:46.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm wondering if maybe you might ask spirit if they have any messages for our audience. And this is for people listening live, or people listening to the recording after the fact, because the world is changing so quickly. A lot of people are lost and confused. So sometimes I think some

00:45:46.620 --> 00:45:50.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: comforting words from spirit can be very supportive and helpful.

00:45:50.900 --> 00:46:05.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. Thank you, Sally Crow. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now, or awakening humanity. Our guest, this hour has been Sally Crow, and we will be right back to wrap it all up in just a moment.

00:48:06.670 --> 00:48:24.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who it was so funny cause. During the break I was checking in with the engineer, saying, Hey, no, no, no chats today, like. Usually there's lots of comments. And then, sure enough, loyal listeners and Aya, who do to tunes in every week, said, thank you, Sally Crone. She'll catch the repeat. I guess she got a little busy.

00:48:24.510 --> 00:48:25.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So

00:48:28.120 --> 00:48:29.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there's so many

00:48:30.770 --> 00:48:38.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: challenges in the world today from the environment to political upheaval and war. It feels like

00:48:38.660 --> 00:48:41.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: humanity is getting squeezed. Sometimes

00:48:42.250 --> 00:48:48.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm wondering if spirit has anything to help us through these challenging times.

00:48:49.260 --> 00:48:51.710 Salicrow: Sure. So

00:48:52.300 --> 00:49:00.189 Salicrow: one of the things that I get from spirit regularly is the reminder that we are here on purpose

00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:01.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that

00:49:01.600 --> 00:49:21.270 Salicrow: I, my dad, was a marine, so I use the term. We're boots on the ground. And what that means is that we are not here haphazardly, especially the people who might be listening to your show, or the people who I have experienced working with. We came in to be part of the change.

00:49:22.590 --> 00:49:25.940 Salicrow: The darkness is not forever.

00:49:26.130 --> 00:49:37.070 Salicrow: and that our role is to be the light. In that darkness you, me, and as well as your listeners, even if we are that light for one other person.

00:49:37.670 --> 00:49:39.719 Salicrow: there's a belief that

00:49:40.060 --> 00:49:54.540 Salicrow: these are end times. A lot of people like to think of that, but I think of it as end times, and the way that I get it from spirit is that it's end times in the sense of the tower in the tarot cards. The end is not the end. It is

00:49:54.660 --> 00:49:55.969 Salicrow: an and

00:49:56.010 --> 00:50:02.230 Salicrow: at an end of a human cycle, and

00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:07.510 Salicrow: and then we each have a lot more

00:50:08.060 --> 00:50:15.140 Salicrow: ability or power, or intuitive skill in us than we have been taught to believe.

00:50:15.240 --> 00:50:33.009 Salicrow: and that we need to start holding on to that piece. We need to start trusting ourselves more, that our spirits are not abandoning us at this time, that they're standing with us. It's one of the reasons why so many people are having psychic experiences, because we need to be able to at least

00:50:33.790 --> 00:50:40.179 Salicrow: the feeling of our beloved dead with us, so that we don't feel like we're walking alone.

00:50:40.210 --> 00:50:41.720 Salicrow: There's

00:50:42.350 --> 00:51:09.980 Salicrow: and then one of the big things that I'm getting right now is that there's more good in the world than there is bad. But the bad speaks louder. Yes, yes, it's just what the media focuses on it is, and that's why things like what you're doing is so important because we need to have more people who are speaking up and being the light. More people who are, you know, choosing to share that piece of it instead of I think of it as like, we're letting the world be ruled by bullies.

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:26.629 Salicrow: Yeah, yeah, okay, that's a good way to be ruled by bullies who threaten us at every chance they get, and that if we look back at all of the times that we wasted in fear. And how many of those fears ever came to be?

00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:51.139 Salicrow: That's the other reminder that spirit is giving us like we have to be careful with how we program our mind right now. And that means being careful about how much you choose to expose yourself to. You know, news productions that focus on hate and violence, and thinking of it as just as important to our health

00:51:51.300 --> 00:51:58.639 Salicrow: as it is for us to eat a balanced diet. We have to have a balanced diet of what's going into our minds.

00:51:58.750 --> 00:51:59.630 Salicrow: that.

00:52:01.050 --> 00:52:03.269 Salicrow: and also, really that we're not alone.

00:52:03.490 --> 00:52:16.170 Salicrow: We are not alone, any of us. I actually was just talking about this with one of the clients I saw right before I came on here with you, cause she actually is getting into the death business. That was what her whole reading about

00:52:16.590 --> 00:52:20.210 Salicrow: and one of the things that we were talking about is that

00:52:21.040 --> 00:52:22.790 Salicrow: in my experience

00:52:23.430 --> 00:52:52.530 Salicrow: all the haunted stories are way exaggerated. Even the if your uncle ends up on the street and dies as a homeless person, he will still have somebody waiting for him when he dies. Our family ancestors, our personal spirits. There is always somebody waiting for us, and yes, sometimes people do get stuck, but that is so rare. Again, it's one of the exaggerated things that comes through.

00:52:52.720 --> 00:52:56.249 Salicrow: Keep getting that spirit doesn't abandon us.

00:52:56.690 --> 00:53:03.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, very good, very good. Yeah. Even people abandon the spirit is always there with us.

00:53:03.490 --> 00:53:26.109 Salicrow: I I'm curious. What does the future hold for Sally Grove? You have more books you're working on. I have a manuscript that has to be turned in at the end of the month. My next book is on Tarot is the storyteller, and it's about psychic development and particularly around cardamancy oracle cards, Tarot and

00:53:26.110 --> 00:53:38.600 Salicrow: you know, playing cards. But it's got a lot of psychic development tips in it. And I've started a mentorship program. That's for people who are a little more advanced in their psychic studies.

00:53:38.600 --> 00:53:52.059 Salicrow: where I do evaluations on where we see their strengths as being the highest and help them to come up with something that takes them to the next stage that they wanna be at. So that's where my work has been moving into

00:53:52.140 --> 00:54:03.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Gotcha gotcha! Wonderful wonderful! Well, listen! When your next book comes out I'd be honored to have you come back on the show. It was wonderful conversation, even our engineer said.

00:54:03.560 --> 00:54:24.960 Salicrow: can't believe it's almost the end of the show. Felt like 10 min. It's all preparation. So if if

00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:49.690 Salicrow: people want to learn more about you. Get in touch with you. What's your website? How'd they find you? My website is Sally Crowcom, SALI. Crowscom, and you can get in. Touch me there. I'm also on Facebook and Instagram, and in March I will be launching my Patreon page and starting with Youtube. I've just got a lot of fires in the iron at the, you know Irons in the fire moment.

00:54:49.690 --> 00:55:05.890 Salicrow: Got you got you a and one last question. Oh, the name Sally Crow. Where does it come from? So Crow is a spiritual name attached to my family, and I have used Sally Crows my spiritual name for most of my adult life.

00:55:06.010 --> 00:55:25.339 Salicrow: But I made it publicly, actually, after going to Ireland and being locked out of all of my social media pages because I ta! It was in 2,013. The only place I could get on the Internet was in a public library. And so all my social media like just was like, no let you back in. So I

00:55:25.340 --> 00:55:53.530 Salicrow: started everything back up again with my spiritual name, and which was a good move because my husband's French. His name is Noel Pedro. So like, you can imagine the vowels and gotcha gotcha. Yeah, I had that experience with, Facebook, too, ended up having to hire a lawyer to get my Facebook account back. Wow! It can be a real like. People don't realize, like you gotta be careful because

00:55:53.530 --> 00:55:59.190 Salicrow: the platform that you're building on doesn't actually belong to you. Right? Exactly. Exactly.

00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:13.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, Sally Crow, it has been wonderful. It's been an honor and a pleasure if you ever make it down to New York City? I would love to treat you to some good Chinese food or something. I would. I would love to to keep in touch.

00:56:13.910 --> 00:56:27.449 Salicrow: And and I wish you well with your programs. II I'd love to to see your new book when it comes out, and

00:56:27.450 --> 00:56:51.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so thank you so much, and and I wish you all the best, and of course, thank you, my loyal listeners, for tuning in each week, whether it's live or on the replay. And of course, if you did miss any part of today's show, you can always catch the And on all the major podcasting platforms. Apple Google, spotify Pandora Iheartradio. We're on all of them.

00:56:51.270 --> 00:57:16.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And don't forget stay tuned for later today, for Frank. Show Frank about health. I believe he's doing a rerun this week about talking with our own engineer about did. And of course, tomorrow we have our business show, starting at 10 Am. With philanthropy and focus, and followed by always. Friday. Matthew is taking a bit of a hiatus within tangify as a switches things up

00:57:16.550 --> 00:57:21.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and thank you all for tuning in. We will talk to you all next week.

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