The Conscious Consultant Hour

Thursday, November 2, 2023
Facebook Live Video from 2023/11/02 - Divine Master Alchemy

Facebook Live Video from 2023/11/02 - Divine Master Alchemy


2023/11/02 - Divine Master Alchemy

[NEW EPISODE] Divine Master Alchemy

This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Author, Researcher and Herbal & Entheogenic Medicine Alchemist, Acacea Lewis.

Acacea is the Founder of Divine Master Alchemy LLC, and Divine Master University, a school for Entheogenic Cultural Literacy and Applied Naturopathic Medicine Research.  

Acacea is a student of Baba Kilindi Iyi, and teachers from other systems, as well as an independent researcher and lifetime student of the psilocybin mushroom. 

She shares her first-hand experiences and provides undergraduate-level research papers, books, and medical research to help bridge and integrate the fields of medical science, spiritual systems, and cultural anthropology.

Tune in and join the conversation as Sam and Acacea discuss all about the science of consciousness, ancestral healing, genetic reprogramming, and the history of ancient and modern civilizations that use plants and fungi as medicines, sacraments, and healing tools.

Please comment on our YouTube channel, Facebook Page, LinkedIn Page, and even our Twitter feed. Join in and ask your questions live!  

Tune in for this enlightening conversation at

Show Notes

Segment 1

Starting the show, Sam presents a blog post from a few years ago, titled "With Fame and Fortune Comes Great Responsibility to Our Tribe" by Sam. This week, The Conscious Consultant Hour welcomes a captivating guest: Acacea Lewis, an Author, Researcher, and Expert in Herbal & Entheogenic Medicine Alchemy.

Segment 2

Acacea uncovered the healing potential of mushrooms for both her physical and psychological well-being. She narrates her personal journey, transitioning from using mushrooms for self-healing to educating and aiding others through their medicinal properties. Delving into the historical context of medicinal mushrooms, she discusses the hurdles she encountered, initially grappling with discomfort as a speaker but ultimately finding her voice. With a background in astrophysics, she seamlessly blends her scientific expertise with her profound passion for holistic wellness.

Segment 3

Acacea, the globally recognized expert on mushrooms, is set to deliver a keynote speech at the Spirit Plant Medicine Conference. Visit and apply Sam's promotional code: "savetheworld." Offering a sneak peek into her conference presentation, Acacea tantalizes the audience with a glimpse of her upcoming discussion. Additionally, Sam and Acacea engage in a conversation about the intriguing stoned ape theory. 

Segment 4

Jade stands out as a cherished gemstone for Acacea, who elaborates on her incorporation of crystals into her professional practice during her talk. Intrigued by the profound significance attached to these ancient stones by various cultures globally, she delves into their mystique. Acacea candidly discusses the hurdles she encounters within her field of expertise. To discover more about Acacea and her work, connect with her on Instagram at @acacealewis or subscribe to her website at


00:00:24.250 --> 00:00:42.089 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: good afternoon, my conscious co-creators. Good morning. Good evening. Wherever you're tuning in from welcome to that conscious, consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you're all here with me today.

00:00:43.220 --> 00:01:06.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm so happy that you're here. I got my guest. She's she's in a car right now, so I do want to get to her quickly. But first, of course, my little section of my blog which today is entitled with fame and fortune comes great responsibility to our tribe. Let me get through this, and then I'll introduce my guest. Many of us like the idea of having influence.

00:01:07.720 --> 00:01:11.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: influence either through fame or fortune.

00:01:11.360 --> 00:01:17.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We feel it would be great to have so many people listening to us, yet we often forget

00:01:18.080 --> 00:01:21.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to consider what comes with that influence.

00:01:21.520 --> 00:01:31.429 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It can feel wonderful to know that millions of people will listen to our words. We think that by having such a reach, we will have a positive impact on the world.

00:01:32.610 --> 00:01:42.739 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But what happens when we make a mistake? What happens when we spread information that we believe is true at the time it turns out not to be.

00:01:42.820 --> 00:01:51.300 Do we ever think about the consequences of having such a huge reach to have influences often equated with power

00:01:51.380 --> 00:01:55.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the power to change minds or to influence events.

00:01:55.580 --> 00:02:00.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet with that power comes a great deal of responsibility.

00:02:00.510 --> 00:02:12.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Many people will use that influence irresponsibly, for they are only interested in self promotion. Yet when we are a person of conscience.

00:02:12.140 --> 00:02:22.759 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we can also feel the burden of the responsibility. What if we believe something is true to day and tomorrow we find out we are wrong.

00:02:23.060 --> 00:02:30.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Will we go back out and tell everyone we made a mistake? Can we live with that embarrassment?

00:02:30.480 --> 00:02:38.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can we face up to the fact that what we put out to our following before we now know was incorrect?

00:02:39.130 --> 00:02:50.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is not easy to do so. When we spend so much time building up our reputation and our reach, we naturally shy away from anything that can damage it.

00:02:50.540 --> 00:02:57.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet as responsible people as people with a heart and a conscience, we have no choice.

00:02:57.890 --> 00:03:12.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That is why the burden is actually on us to be careful about what we do with our influence. Examples of people who use their influence carelessly are all around us.

00:03:12.100 --> 00:03:22.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We have seen it done in small ways and big ways. So for people who take stock of the consequences of our actions, it is not an easy path.

00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:27.979 We know that our influence over our tribe is the most precious thing.

00:03:28.470 --> 00:03:35.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being protective of our influence comes naturally to us. This is why we are extra careful

00:03:36.890 --> 00:03:48.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what we cultivate and spread to our tribe. It is an important reminder for all of us. With great power and influence comes great responsibility.

00:03:48.760 --> 00:03:54.439 and even if our influence is not so large, we still have a responsibility

00:03:54.580 --> 00:04:07.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to our friends, to our family and all of our loved ones. Have you been responsible with your influence? Have you been careful to use your influence appropriately.

00:04:08.660 --> 00:04:09.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So

00:04:09.860 --> 00:04:12.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: this was

00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:17.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: something I wrote, you know, couple of years ago.

00:04:17.470 --> 00:04:21.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and it kind of came to mind when

00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:36.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Somebody had mentioned that a a big influencer in the in in the, you know, personal growth stage had had promoted something that then turned out to be wrong to be false

00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that turned out to be some kind of scam.

00:04:39.490 --> 00:04:59.279 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then there was another one, and I think it was a crypto scam. And then there was another one, and it was another kind of scam. and and I remember this person like just making the observation. Gee! You notice how all these influencers who promoted this stuff. None of them are coming out and saying Oops! I made a mistake.

00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:05.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that really kind of struck a chord with me, because I know so many people

00:05:05.940 --> 00:05:13.360 who really spend a lot of time building up their influence, getting more followers and increasing their reach

00:05:15.740 --> 00:05:22.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and then they're they're not always so careful in what they spread to the reach.

00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:43.069 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I very, very, very rarely ever see anybody who makes a mistake come back and say, Oops! I made a mistake. Oh, I didn't, do III there's a little boo! Boo! Here. It was incorrect. Please please disregard it. So few

00:05:43.890 --> 00:05:44.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: people

00:05:45.010 --> 00:05:48.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: actually do that. And and it really.

00:05:48.670 --> 00:05:51.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to me, shows a lack of maturity.

00:05:52.670 --> 00:05:58.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I understand, yes, we've spent all this time. We're trying to protect our reputation.

00:06:00.060 --> 00:06:05.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yet still there's a responsibility we have, and we have to honor that responsibility

00:06:07.730 --> 00:06:09.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it just.

00:06:09.440 --> 00:06:16.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to this day I still see people coming out and things coming out and not apologizing.

00:06:16.980 --> 00:06:18.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And

00:06:19.400 --> 00:06:32.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you know I again I get it. Nobody wants to go through the the quote unquote canceled culture. Nobody wants to be vilified for making a mistake.

00:06:34.930 --> 00:06:43.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I believe you know, part of the big challenge today in society is that it? So often we're not allowed to be human.

00:06:44.640 --> 00:06:54.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so I feel it's more important to have there to be human, to admit our humanness, to admit our mistakes. regardless of how large our platform is.

00:06:55.710 --> 00:07:00.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so that we can be a good example for others. so that we can

00:07:01.440 --> 00:07:06.489 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: honor other people and allow others to be human as well.

00:07:08.270 --> 00:07:27.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's the section from my blog and this is from 2 years ago, roughly with fame and fortune comes great responsibility to our tribe, and if you like that, and you have not yet gotten my book. Don't forget. You can get my book every day awakening that has filled with all these kinds of

00:07:27.980 --> 00:07:30.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant:  the

00:07:30.330 --> 00:07:34.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: nuggets and wisdom and

00:07:35.350 --> 00:08:00.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it is now my pleasure to welcome to the show author, researcher and herbal and ethnogenic medicine alchemist, Acacia Lewis Acacia is the founder of Divine Master Alchemy, Llc. And Divine Master University a School for Ethnogenic Cultural Literacy and applied natropathic Medicine research. Acacia is a student of Baba

00:08:01.200 --> 00:08:10.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Kalindi, E. Hope I'm pronouncing that right and teaches from other systems as well as an independent researcher and lifetime student of the Psilocybin mushroom.

00:08:10.880 --> 00:08:24.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She shares her first hand experience and provides undergraduate level research papers, books, and medical research to help bridge and integrate the fields of medical science, spiritual systems and cultural anthropology.

00:08:24.520 --> 00:08:27.189 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Welcome to the conscious consult. Now, acacia.

00:08:28.580 --> 00:08:31.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hi, can you hear me? Okay, yep. We hear you.

00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.600 Acacea Lewis: Okay, wonderful. It's an honor to be here. Thank you for having

00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:51.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you're you're quite welcome. You're quite welcome. And just to let people know. Acacia comes to us via the Spirit Plant Medicine Conference, which is sponsoring our show for these few weeks and starts like tomorrow or today. I forget.

00:08:52.820 --> 00:09:12.419 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah. Starts on the third tomorrow, so make sure to check it out. But I'm honored to have acacia with us. She's been involved in this industry in the psychedelics industry for many, many years. So acacia be before first break. II always like to start off

00:09:12.490 --> 00:09:19.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just asking my guests to give a little bit of background of what sort of brought you to be doing this work?

00:09:19.230 --> 00:09:32.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so what sort of attracted you to? I mean psilocybin to psychedelics and and to being sort of a voice in the industry for a more inclusive environment.

00:09:33.820 --> 00:09:39.669 Acacea Lewis: Well, it's probably you should ask Sam. I got really really sick, sick, mental.

00:09:39.770 --> 00:09:48.929 Acacea Lewis: And that's what brings a lot of us to this group is an inability to wake up in the morning and look at the beer and say, I love myself or anything else in this world.

00:09:50.810 --> 00:09:52.329 Acacea Lewis: so that you

00:09:52.580 --> 00:09:55.180 Acacea Lewis: and so a situation where

00:09:55.620 --> 00:09:59.230 Acacea Lewis: it's a radically change your life.

00:09:59.490 --> 00:10:04.680 Acacea Lewis: Sometimes people get letons. This work I was not. I was

00:10:04.810 --> 00:10:05.980 and precipitate.

00:10:06.100 --> 00:10:26.380 Acacea Lewis: So happens, maybe after a second plant, but I found that out much later. And puts it to me, is that the people who cared about me in my life at that time over the age they

00:10:26.460 --> 00:10:35.140 Acacea Lewis: and my life started to improve, due to better decision making skills that developed

00:10:35.170 --> 00:10:39.309 Acacea Lewis: after some critical thinking and reflection.

00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.090 Acacea Lewis: the assistance of psilocybin.

00:10:43.020 --> 00:10:48.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and did you work with a facilitator at all? Or or did you just do this on your own?

00:10:49.970 --> 00:11:00.289 Acacea Lewis: This was done on my own. I was given mushrooms by a corner of mine. I was made up by mine, and I

00:11:00.400 --> 00:11:09.220 Acacea Lewis: kind of washed over me and made sure that I wasn't doing anything silly or crazy. At first I did do silly thing, and handing out Stage 2,

00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:15.619 Acacea Lewis: many different people I can understand, you know, and I have a very, very beautiful time.

00:11:16.470 --> 00:11:33.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful wonderful. I just wanna let our audience know acacia is is is is traveling right now, and she's calling in from her car. So for audio is is a little choppy. Just so, you know why. But II do appreciate you making the time acacia

00:11:33.880 --> 00:11:45.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So how long ago was this experience for you. How long was it that that that you know you realize like, Oh, my God! Like this stuff was really transformative. It changed my life. This is something I should look into more

00:11:46.660 --> 00:11:48.230 Acacea Lewis: over 10 years ago.

00:11:48.590 --> 00:11:51.570 Acacea Lewis: and for me I was

00:11:51.680 --> 00:11:57.370 Acacea Lewis: coming out of college and making a decision that must win the Air Force. And

00:11:57.670 --> 00:12:01.260 Acacea Lewis: it was before that I made a decision to

00:12:01.460 --> 00:12:03.620 Acacea Lewis: address my depression.

00:12:03.730 --> 00:12:10.320 Acacea Lewis: and I was able to make a progress with it and successfully complete basic training

00:12:10.760 --> 00:12:13.649 Acacea Lewis: in the Air Force. Later.

00:12:14.060 --> 00:12:20.910 Acacea Lewis: However, I ended up getting into a car accident 3 years inside of the Air Force

00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:25.120 Acacea Lewis: and getting separated, which led to another period of extreme depression.

00:12:25.380 --> 00:12:33.870 Acacea Lewis: and so I needed to go back and sit with the mushroom again, except this time with a more mature approach instead of

00:12:33.890 --> 00:12:54.800 Acacea Lewis: it, just be gifted to me. I had educated myself significantly on the traditional use of the, and I was no longer looking to distract myself from depression. I was looking to make significant light and behavioral changes. And I I've been making those changes ever since the last 8 years.

00:12:55.070 --> 00:13:00.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I imagine it was a a very different experience when you actually

00:13:01.370 --> 00:13:17.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: went into it the the second time. It sounds like more purposefully and and more with the intention of not running away from your challenges, but facing up to them and diving deeper into them, to actually heal the root. Cause.

00:13:18.580 --> 00:13:26.699 Acacea Lewis: Well, I think the misnomer, when people working with the mushroom is the 1950 s. 19 drug culture.

00:13:26.760 --> 00:13:32.180 Acacea Lewis: That was what I was brought up under the analogy that mushrooms addressed

00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:36.420 Acacea Lewis: and mushroom is still conservative drugs. Many. and

00:13:36.680 --> 00:13:43.009 Acacea Lewis: the difference for me was I didn't treat it like a drug. My second time around. I treated it

00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:48.250 Acacea Lewis: as a tool as something that was sacred. And it's sacred to me.

00:13:48.430 --> 00:13:51.709 Acacea Lewis: It's created for the purpose of

00:13:52.190 --> 00:13:57.829 Acacea Lewis: connecting with the spiritual nature of my inner reality.

00:13:57.910 --> 00:14:02.620 Acacea Lewis: my ethics, my morals, my behaviors, my actions, my accountability

00:14:02.750 --> 00:14:04.020 Acacea Lewis: and testing.

00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:11.900 Acacea Lewis: Why, it was uncomfortable me to look at my own actions, and becoming more aware of those actions to help

00:14:12.110 --> 00:14:13.959 Acacea Lewis: prevent myself from making

00:14:14.510 --> 00:14:17.100 Acacea Lewis: mistakes. I could recover from

00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:21.600 Acacea Lewis: psychologically. And that's when I started

00:14:22.110 --> 00:14:32.580 Acacea Lewis: rebuilding purchase. I had burned with my family members, and focusing more on wellness and feeling my individual, instead of running quick

00:14:33.060 --> 00:14:36.720 Acacea Lewis: iterative libraries and

00:14:37.010 --> 00:14:49.840 Acacea Lewis: tumors and such. And so I went on a dealing journey for real. II started doing research instead of feeling like I was living after life. I started making changes that now it results in a paid free life

00:14:50.100 --> 00:14:52.959 Acacea Lewis: where that one's not possible 10 years ago.

00:14:53.990 --> 00:15:09.149 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, wonderful. Wonderful. Yeah. It's kind of funny that like, in order to heal our pain, we actually have to face our pain and and actually feel it. There's an old expression that says, you have to feel it, to heal it.

00:15:09.170 --> 00:15:38.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and and it, though that tends to be like the last thing that we wanna do. But it's actually the exact thing that we need to do to actually get to where we truly wanna be, which is, as you said, pain free, alright acacia. We're gonna take a quick break, and when we come back I'd like to talk about once you, you experience this your own healing like, why did you decide to focus so much on this and and not just

00:15:38.290 --> 00:15:51.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: participate, but actually be a a, a guide, or or be an educator of of of these medicines and actually teach people the importance of working with them. Okay.

00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:54.389 Acacea Lewis: okay, thank you. Zappa.

00:15:54.400 --> 00:16:13.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Awesome, wonderful. So everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern time right here on talk radio, dot Nyc and all over social media, and we'll be right back with our guest, Acacia Lewis, in just a moment.

00:18:22.290 --> 00:18:51.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consult now are awakening humanity. So, acacia, you had your own experience. Obviously it was very powerful. You you've discovered, like what it was like to use the mushrooms to, to sort of heal yourself from from physical and psychological pain. What made you decide to sort of focus on it as a researcher, and and really dive into it and educate others about it.

00:18:53.410 --> 00:18:55.809 Acacea Lewis: Good question, Sam.

00:18:56.750 --> 00:19:03.239 Acacea Lewis: I was asked by my elders people who I cared about and who I looked to for guidance.

00:19:03.310 --> 00:19:06.810 Acacea Lewis: Lindy E. Was one of the first people who.

00:19:07.070 --> 00:19:14.490 Acacea Lewis: look like me was lecturing and teaching about this stuff and explorative value of

00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:20.899 Acacea Lewis: self-awareness and utilizing the mushroom as as a tool for novel

00:19:20.910 --> 00:19:26.860 Acacea Lewis: conscious exploration. I was a researcher in astrophysics before I started work.

00:19:27.360 --> 00:19:28.620 Acacea Lewis: So Buddy.

00:19:28.740 --> 00:19:39.330 Acacea Lewis: and so exploring the frontiers of consciousness became another level of exploration for me outside of this natural science and research.

00:19:39.870 --> 00:19:42.989 Acacea Lewis: But as a trained skeptic. II

00:19:43.130 --> 00:19:48.310 Acacea Lewis: definitely wanted to put the science of

00:19:48.660 --> 00:19:54.510 Acacea Lewis: the experience to the test. I didn't trust that I was well or field.

00:19:54.630 --> 00:20:01.970 Acacea Lewis: so I have made radical life changes, and until my explorations led me to

00:20:02.820 --> 00:20:12.350 Acacea Lewis: true inside of my reality, that the work that I was doing in the mushroom was helping my ordinary life.

00:20:12.420 --> 00:20:14.949 Acacea Lewis: I didn't take a whole lot of stock in it.

00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:30.470 Acacea Lewis: But then, when I did some cultural anthropological research, I realized that there is a science to facing one sphere, and that several civilizations, including the Aztec and Mix tech Mayan civilization.

00:20:30.710 --> 00:20:41.890 Acacea Lewis: had a formula for facing one's spheres in conjunction with consuming the psilocybin mushroom. in which Maya Jaguar, evil warriors were initiated.

00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:48.710 Acacea Lewis: and in Africa, in the Panther society. Which is a martial arts. Warrior tradition

00:20:48.730 --> 00:21:04.060 Acacea Lewis: Psilocybin mushrooms were involved as well as now as I'm learning with my teacher, Mama Mike Crowley, author of books, Secret Drugs to Buddhism and Buddhist Traditions as well, at which time initiated as the costinger.

00:21:04.510 --> 00:21:08.860 Acacea Lewis: And so it became a spiritual exploration.

00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:23.999 Acacea Lewis: and I became a teacher, not because I wanted to choose to teach, but because I was asked to by members my community and they thought was important for me to share my story. And so I'm sharing my story.

00:21:25.950 --> 00:21:32.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Did you have any trepidation about sharing your story? Was there any nervousness?

00:21:32.900 --> 00:21:37.990 Acacea Lewis: I wanted to go and live under a rock? I was living in the

00:21:38.260 --> 00:21:49.469 Acacea Lewis: the 2018 I visited there for the first time with my friend Melinda, and we ate the soul side and mushroom bear, and I grew incredibly bond

00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:51.480 Acacea Lewis: of the seclusion and

00:21:51.550 --> 00:21:54.240 Acacea Lewis: and the the piece

00:21:54.570 --> 00:22:03.599 Acacea Lewis: of the Zapotech area where the full sign in Zapatora mushroom grows, and II wanted to learn.

00:22:03.760 --> 00:22:11.930 Acacea Lewis: or about aspect and things like Mayan philosophy from the people who are still consuming the psilocybin mushroom as a sacrum.

00:22:12.050 --> 00:22:15.139 Acacea Lewis: And so I basically stayed there and never left.

00:22:15.210 --> 00:22:24.030 Acacea Lewis: and so I got requested to come to a conference by Babamudu, which is one of

00:22:24.520 --> 00:22:31.539 Acacea Lewis: pull the students. and he's still a good friend of mine, Bobby, will be back. and he encouraged me to give my first lecture.

00:22:31.560 --> 00:22:38.519 Acacea Lewis: and then, after that, many one community wanted me to continue lecture, and so I

00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:45.430 Acacea Lewis: I, despite my trepidation, overcame my fear of speaking, because I do

00:22:45.590 --> 00:22:48.270 Acacea Lewis: have apertures which is social

00:22:48.550 --> 00:23:04.380 Acacea Lewis: level of autism that has greatly improved, gave me a little bit of an ability to become a speaker. And so it's my way of saying, thanks to the mushroom by Speaker today. It's my way of giving back.

00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:05.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm!

00:23:06.820 --> 00:23:29.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Have you had any challenges as you've been coming out and speaking? I mean that people have been inviting you. You know you're obviously very comfortable with your experience, but I'm just curious like when you started to talk about it publicly. And even though you're uncomfortable as a speaker. But I mean, did anyone challenge you? Did your family think you're crazy? Were your friends?

00:23:29.370 --> 00:23:38.370 Acacea Lewis: My family thought I was crazy, and you know, II went through periods of not speaking to my parents for years. So II started to embody

00:23:38.450 --> 00:23:48.200 Acacea Lewis: overnight. But they don't. They don't embody the principles of compassion.

00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:56.380 Acacea Lewis: forgiveness, kindness that they consider divine or spiritualize qualities. So I had to learn

00:23:56.430 --> 00:24:05.890 Acacea Lewis: to be patient with other people's opinion for me and my experience, and be tolerant of of their feelings and their emotions hold space for them

00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:12.380 Acacea Lewis: rather, you know, than the opposite. It's the developing of emotional intelligence.

00:24:12.390 --> 00:24:28.410 Acacea Lewis: That people can think whatever they want, and that's perfectly fine I support them, no matter what, and if they choose to support me, then great! If they don't also love them, anyway. That's the kind of mentality that I had to develop. And you know, over time.

00:24:28.760 --> 00:24:33.920 Acacea Lewis: my relationship with my parents only got better. As a matter of fact, I sent them the link to this

00:24:34.230 --> 00:24:35.630 Acacea Lewis: Youtube

00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:39.599 Acacea Lewis: so that they can watch along. So they're watching. And I'll say, Hi.

00:24:39.620 --> 00:24:48.460 Acacea Lewis: my mom has a background of law enforcement, and my dad is a mathematician and chess coach

00:24:48.590 --> 00:25:01.220 Acacea Lewis: the Black chess sciences on Instagram. If my dad Apollo, if you want free chess, advice, or tips. My dad found his passion, and I've found mine, and so we support each other. He supported me in my

00:25:01.340 --> 00:25:13.880 Acacea Lewis: jade carving, which is come from my love of working with sacred stones and mushrooms, and learning about traditions, of carving jade that involved connecting with

00:25:14.120 --> 00:25:15.629 Acacea Lewis: the stone itself.

00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:21.370 Acacea Lewis: and my Dad supports me in my passion. I support him and my mom as well.

00:25:21.540 --> 00:25:42.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, beautiful, beautiful! You know one of the things that really warms my heart when it comes to, you know, whichever psychedelic medicine people decide to work with is when I see it, bring families together and see people being more open and honest and true to who they are, and being able to kinda heal those rifts.

00:25:42.210 --> 00:26:06.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because it kinda feels like if we can heal the rifts within our own family. Then then we can heal almost anything. It's it's it's something that I think is is highly overlooked and not really supported and for given enough attention to is the effect that these wonderful substances have on on healing the family dynamic in the family structure.

00:26:07.290 --> 00:26:21.439 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So you have an an an astrophysics and and sort of a a, a very technical background, as well as you know the spiritual side to you and I. And I'm just curious.

00:26:21.650 --> 00:26:35.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like, how does it come together for you? Ha! Has that, you know? The more technical stuff, or the more quote unquote science stuff has that supported your research in your your exploration into the working with psilocybin?

00:26:37.010 --> 00:26:41.510 Acacea Lewis: Yes, sir, it has. And I will say this from

00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:44.900 a point of view of a physicist.

00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.309 Acacea Lewis: Theoretical physics is theory.

00:26:48.120 --> 00:26:55.390 Acacea Lewis: Most quantum physics have trouble because they think that they're dealing with something that's real.

00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so

00:26:58.280 --> 00:27:02.409 Acacea Lewis: when I step into the experience with the mushroom.

00:27:02.470 --> 00:27:08.359 Acacea Lewis: It puts me in direct contact with the things that I cannot study

00:27:08.710 --> 00:27:16.179 Acacea Lewis: in a laboratory. My own life experiences the relevance of science to my soul, to my my journey

00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:28.199 Acacea Lewis: through my actions and through the causes of my existence, and to to all cause on this planet that I will say

00:27:28.580 --> 00:27:30.670 Acacea Lewis: personally.

00:27:30.990 --> 00:27:37.409 Acacea Lewis: I went through a really deep phase of atheism. and when I started working with the Psilocybin mushroom

00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:45.610 Acacea Lewis: it piqued my interest into what other civilizations thought about the known universe, because, as we know.

00:27:45.750 --> 00:27:50.500 Acacea Lewis: theoretical physics is based on Western ontological metaphysics

00:27:50.590 --> 00:27:53.510 Acacea Lewis: or Western philosophy.

00:27:53.690 --> 00:28:03.049 Acacea Lewis: Aristotle, Plato. Those those folks. And if you look at aspect metaphysics.

00:28:03.110 --> 00:28:08.059 Acacea Lewis: it uses a vocabulary to address our reality. That

00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:14.269 Acacea Lewis: does not use a dualistic language. It uses monistic language.

00:28:14.550 --> 00:28:25.760 Acacea Lewis: and so it gave me a choice. Choose to look at reality differently. The mushroom gave me a choice to look at, reality experientially.

00:28:26.030 --> 00:28:27.790 Acacea Lewis: and

00:28:28.360 --> 00:28:40.869 Acacea Lewis: to appreciate the relationship that my unique life has in the grand scheme of the world itself. And so the exploration of the philosophy of Dallas.

00:28:40.970 --> 00:28:44.869 Acacea Lewis: the philosophy of Buddhism, the philosophy of Christianity.

00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.410 Acacea Lewis: the philosophy of Hinduism.

00:28:48.630 --> 00:28:58.119 Acacea Lewis: and a philosophy of African warrior traditions, has given me a whole new field to study. And I just love to learn.

00:28:58.870 --> 00:29:00.930 Acacea Lewis: That's how message.

00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:10.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, it's it's really kind of beautiful. When you. when we can sort of drop our filters and and come to everything openly.

00:29:11.020 --> 00:29:21.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A. And we can then see sort of the similarities and the threads that run together from all these different fields, or all these different philosophies.

00:29:21.860 --> 00:29:42.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and still appreciate the the variety, the differences, the the richness that that makes up this tapestry, that's full of colors and textures, that that things can can be in alignment, but not be the same, and can take very different approaches, but still get us to that same place.

00:29:42.180 --> 00:29:55.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that when we can really focus on. Well, what's at the heart? What's at the core of this like? That's where we can really find some some beautiful some beautiful material.

00:29:55.770 --> 00:30:00.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that that's wonderful that you're able to spin so much together.

00:30:02.610 --> 00:30:04.900 Acacea Lewis: Thank you, Sam. It's an honor

00:30:06.380 --> 00:30:19.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful, wonderful. Okay, we're gonna take another quick break when we come back. I would like to talk about your latest invitation to speak, which is at the Spirit Plant Medicine Conference in Vancouver.

00:30:19.870 --> 00:30:34.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: which are on the way to right now. What you're going to be talking about and and give them a little shout-out, so everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now, weakening humanity, and we'll be right back

00:30:34.840 --> 00:30:38.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with our guest, Acacia Lewis, in just a moment.

00:32:43.260 --> 00:32:55.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so I just wanted to let everyone know that. That spirit Plant Medicine Conference is celebrating its twelfth year of gathering like hearted souls in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

00:32:55.100 --> 00:33:23.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They have an extraordinary lineup of visionary speakers, who will not only educate, but inspire yourself, including the world. Renown, mushroom, Guru, Guru, Paul Stamets, and Dr. Gabor Matte, which I know he sees a little controversial at the moment this year's conference takes place this weekend like starting tomorrow, November third, through November fifth, and tickets and information could be found@www.spirit plant

00:33:23.860 --> 00:33:46.039 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And just for listeners of my show we have a special code save the world. All lower case, all one word. If you put in promo code save the world, you get an additional 10% discount. So there, it's both live and online. So I highly recommend you check out. This conference is very affordable, and you can watch from the comfort of your own home.

00:33:46.310 --> 00:33:54.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So, acacia, you're one of the s honored speakers at the conference. What are you going to be speaking on mushrooms, I guess.

00:33:55.040 --> 00:33:57.950 Acacea Lewis: Well, thank you for asking Sam.

00:33:57.970 --> 00:34:12.050 Acacea Lewis: steven has given me great honor of having too much Friday. You will hear about, the ritual and traditional origins of

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:19.420 Acacea Lewis: I, the use of crystal technology and mushrooms and Aztec philosophy.

00:34:19.600 --> 00:34:34.240 Acacea Lewis: Now, what you might be thinking is, oh, no, that's that's not that. We find that studios. But no, I will be giving a history of the use. The traditional ritual use significance of jade.

00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:39.880 Acacea Lewis: Other specialized tools

00:34:39.940 --> 00:34:44.340 Acacea Lewis: paired with mushrooms at. And I will also use

00:34:44.489 --> 00:34:54.450 Acacea Lewis: about aspect, philosophy and autism. Go to sees

00:34:54.650 --> 00:35:03.719 Acacea Lewis: and and it's significant in our journey to overcoming year.

00:35:04.310 --> 00:35:05.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm! Wonderful.

00:35:07.700 --> 00:35:10.920 Acacea Lewis: Thank you. On the second I

00:35:11.100 --> 00:35:16.379 Acacea Lewis: day at the conference, I believe I will be speaking on how mushrooms can help

00:35:16.460 --> 00:35:18.649 Acacea Lewis: humans evolve from where we're at.

00:35:18.910 --> 00:35:23.189 Acacea Lewis: II hear a lot of people talking about how lunchroom could have help

00:35:23.220 --> 00:35:31.480 Acacea Lewis: humans evolved in early times. And I have an interest specifically, and how humans can evolve today

00:35:31.550 --> 00:35:42.729 Acacea Lewis: and the pathway forward that can be led honoring the ancient and modern traditions with the papers to work with the full side of the puppet.

00:35:43.550 --> 00:35:48.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, II know that th there is evidence there's like.

00:35:48.680 --> 00:36:10.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not necessarily direct evidence, but circumstantial evidence of of psilocybin having been used in spiritual traditions, dating all the way back to like ancient Greek and Roman times, I mean? Obviously, for thousands of years in South America and North America, but also in Asia. I'm not sure. In Africa are there? Is there evidence of mushrooms.

00:36:10.990 --> 00:36:20.089 Acacea Lewis: As a matter of fact, Paul statements having spoken about something I teach her as an African world. Grandmaster, martial artist.

00:36:20.190 --> 00:36:28.079 Acacea Lewis: He spoke about traditional mushroom use in West Africa and North Africa specifically

00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:30.900 Acacea Lewis: as well as people can use in their own

00:36:30.950 --> 00:36:38.730 Acacea Lewis: And and South Africa among the singoma tradition South African shop.

00:36:39.030 --> 00:36:40.350 Acacea Lewis: So yes.

00:36:41.190 --> 00:36:53.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah, yeah, it's kind of interesting how it's really quite ubiquitous. And it's all over the place. Yet, somehow it's been sort of suppressed or like hidden from

00:36:53.490 --> 00:37:12.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: public view in modern times. I'm I'm I'm curious, with all your research into these different traditions and different places that mushrooms have been used. Is there anything that you've discovered that's really surprised you or that really kinda took made you take a step back and go. Oh, my God! I can't believe that.

00:37:14.730 --> 00:37:24.779 Acacea Lewis: Well, Sam, it's that the mushroom mushroom is 200 billion years old and and spores because they're popping back in space.

00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:28.100 Acacea Lewis: We really don't even know what the souls have in history

00:37:28.430 --> 00:37:33.140 Acacea Lewis: you're flying after.

00:37:34.580 --> 00:37:39.669 Acacea Lewis: So you know, it's interesting to me that the mushroom soul

00:37:39.690 --> 00:37:46.100 Acacea Lewis: that it outdates. It predates human civilizations on this planet, plus

00:37:47.910 --> 00:38:02.789 Acacea Lewis: sort of mythological or religious systems that we, as created, have undoubtedly been somehow influenced by early interactions with visions and spiritual images.

00:38:03.970 --> 00:38:09.319 Acacea Lewis: Some people have even likened the mushroom as being the gateway to the

00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.789 Acacea Lewis: relationship between man and God.

00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:20.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. Yeah. And and I. And with what you mentioned before about, you know helping us to evolve. I know

00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:43.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Terrence Mckenna promoted the what he called this was called the stone ape theory. The idea that the way we developed language and greater consciousness was through eating psilocybin when we were still primitive hominids. So it it's really quite fascinating because they have learned that it does increase new or plasticity. It does increase

00:38:43.860 --> 00:38:58.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the connection between the right and left hemispheres, between the corpus callosum that that it really does a lot to. I increase the wiring in our brain, so to speak. So not only is there the

00:38:58.200 --> 00:39:03.599 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the sort of ineffitable quality of the experience itself. But there's actual

00:39:03.610 --> 00:39:09.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: physical evidence of it making a difference in our in our nervous system, isn't there?

00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:20.319 Acacea Lewis: Yes, and you know when we exercise, eat healthy, and fill our minds with a healthy thoughts and behaviors.

00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:22.979 Acacea Lewis: It seems to have even more than rebounding.

00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:46.500 Acacea Lewis: as we know most things in reality, you know, will be put a good amount of effort behind our goal of evolution, whether it's psychologically or even losing weight. It's our effort that really makes a difference. So I will be talking about different techniques from Buddhist philosophy

00:39:46.500 --> 00:39:57.529 Acacea Lewis: and Aztec philosophy and African philosophy that relate directly to us and improving our mental and psychological wellness so that we can help

00:39:57.580 --> 00:39:58.849 Acacea Lewis: save the forensic

00:39:59.080 --> 00:40:00.160 Acacea Lewis: and Julie.

00:40:00.830 --> 00:40:04.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I'm curious as as a woman of color.

00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:32.589 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How has it been, you know, talking about this in in the communities of color cause cause one of the criticisms of the sort of psychedelic Renaissance is. It's a very Caucasian dominated industry, and that that, you know, there there needs to be more voices of of people of color and and various backgrounds. And so I'm just curious from your perspective and sharing it with with people in in.

00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:43.109 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, the other communities has the reaction been any different than anywhere else? Or or is it pretty much the same? It doesn't matter what a person looks like?

00:40:44.500 --> 00:40:49.670 Acacea Lewis: Oh, you know, I don't think it matters for the person it's like, personally.

00:40:49.680 --> 00:40:55.510 Acacea Lewis: But you know, Boba Klindi eat me was the first African-american psychology lecturer.

00:40:55.750 --> 00:41:00.000 Acacea Lewis: and he was world travel world renowned for his group.

00:41:00.890 --> 00:41:04.430 You know many people have tried to plagiarize them

00:41:04.660 --> 00:41:08.859 Acacea Lewis: said about Egyptians using psilocybin

00:41:09.260 --> 00:41:12.430 Acacea Lewis: and such, you know, and it it is. It is challenging

00:41:12.520 --> 00:41:16.570 Acacea Lewis: for people of color in this community. Because,

00:41:16.930 --> 00:41:18.530 Acacea Lewis: you know, even though

00:41:19.010 --> 00:41:30.689 Acacea Lewis: you know, I feel like my teachers didn't get very much recognition. Their hearts were always in the right place. and just have my heart the right place, you know everyone, and

00:41:30.730 --> 00:41:33.619 Acacea Lewis: probably open the criticism, be open to being wrong.

00:41:33.820 --> 00:42:03.399 Acacea Lewis: And you know, just like anybody else, you know, it's it's a matter of standing up for what you believe in. And you're always going to be challenge, no matter what color race. So my teachers taught me to stand up for myself and what I believe, and you know not. Talk a bunch of nonsense here, you know. Let's talk about the facts, and that's why I try to do it. Keep it back, face relevant, help people to make their own conclusion.

00:42:06.540 --> 00:42:07.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.

00:42:08.060 --> 00:42:22.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah, it it. It's very true. I mean, II very much agree with you that that it doesn't really matter what a person looks like on the outside inside, where we we're, you know, 99% the same.

00:42:22.970 --> 00:42:41.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and we're all human. We all have the same desires, the wants. You know, we just wanna have a good life. We just wanna love and be loved. We just want to see more peace in the world. You know. There, there's so much more we have in common than than divides us. It's it's kind of

00:42:41.270 --> 00:42:50.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: curious how So much we see in the world today is is about division and not not coming together.

00:42:51.080 --> 00:43:05.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant:  you know I had Stephen on my show. Stephen Gray, editor of the book. How psychedelics can help save the world. Which is how I got connected to you and to many of the speakers at the conference.

00:43:06.680 --> 00:43:12.780 What do you think psilocybin has to offer the world today? How can psilocybin help save the world?

00:43:13.970 --> 00:43:29.689 Acacea Lewis: Help bring people to a level of that includes appreciation for other people's artistic abilities, no matter where they have problems and deep connection

00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:34.270 Acacea Lewis: to what we consider to source deep connection

00:43:34.390 --> 00:43:48.470 Acacea Lewis: to being responsible as a stewardess planet, and to potentially help us to make the transition to the source. As Terrence looks like the civilization cares, too.

00:43:48.610 --> 00:43:51.209 Acacea Lewis: need for the stars. You know, I feel

00:43:51.430 --> 00:43:53.200 Acacea Lewis: like

00:43:53.490 --> 00:43:59.990 Acacea Lewis: When we stop focusing our attention on fighting, we stop focusing our attention on finding each other.

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:11.170 Acacea Lewis: We start focusing our attention on the quality of every human life and the value of spiritual nature, of life and death and birth.

00:44:11.210 --> 00:44:32.329 Acacea Lewis: and our sacred planet. That's when things get better for all of us. And so I think so, Simon, fast an opportunity to help people to enjoy their lives while they're here and create a legacy for themselves as well as a legacy for our planet. That's not one of the construction

00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:55.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: man. Beautiful beautiful acacia. Thank you so much. It's time for us to take our last break when we come back. Actually want to talk a little bit more with you about working with the crystals one of my favorite subjects, because II totally resonate with many types of of crystals, and and and how that that you work with that, and how that integrates in with your work. Okay.

00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:57.280 Acacea Lewis: thank you.

00:44:57.460 --> 00:45:17.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful wonderful. Alright. So everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now or awakening humanity. We'll do, and we'll be right back to wrap it all up with our guest, Acacia Lewis. And also I'll I'll give that link one more time for the Spirit Plant Medicine Conference, and we'll be right back in just a moment.

00:47:25.100 --> 00:47:28.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so acacia it sounds like

00:47:28.410 --> 00:47:45.639 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If if I'm not missing, it sounds like jade is is one of your favorite minerals. I'm curious, you you do. You talk a lot about working with crystals and and and psilocybin? What drew you to the crystals? And what kind of drew you to like integrating that into the stuff you talk about.

00:47:46.500 --> 00:48:14.809 Acacea Lewis: Well, I've been collecting stones, Sam, since I was 3 years old. My mom could tell you very frankly. I always carried my head to the ground looking for anything shiny or odd looking stood out, and so it's been a lifelong passion for stones. Of course, you know, I worked first as a geologist, you know. Collecting stones and studying different mineral groups and pyroxy mineral groups such, which is jade jadite is a part of

00:48:14.810 --> 00:48:26.839 Acacea Lewis: and what's interesting to me is, wow! This thing's 600 million years old, you know, or 400 million years old and Chinese. I hate him.

00:48:26.870 --> 00:48:31.859 Acacea Lewis: Jadeite jade nefarite and

00:48:31.970 --> 00:48:47.250 Acacea Lewis: I am fascinated by these ancient stones that many groups, including people of Japan and people of New Zealand, feel are this living thing that have spirits, or

00:48:47.710 --> 00:48:52.009 Acacea Lewis: even connected to the ancestors of our planet.

00:48:52.450 --> 00:49:07.370 Acacea Lewis: And the Ma Maori traditions of Jd carving different tiki, as we see sometimes, and gift shops at party stores are are considered, you know, sacred

00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:28.860 Acacea Lewis: or as faces of the ancestors, and so jade carving for me kind of naturally evolved from a symbiosis of my knowledge of stones and my relationship with plant medicine. It wasn't actually the solic mushroom, but the acacia Confucia tree that connected me with jade culture

00:49:28.930 --> 00:49:33.010 Acacea Lewis: and acacia. Confucius been used in Taiwan

00:49:33.030 --> 00:49:36.859 Acacea Lewis: for thousands of years, potentially

00:49:36.910 --> 00:49:50.330 Acacea Lewis: a Taiwanese specialist, Lynn Marina Chun Lee visited me from Taiwan. We met at breaking convention, England. She was speaking as an expert on acacia Confucius species.

00:49:51.110 --> 00:49:52.170 Acacea Lewis: and

00:49:55.380 --> 00:49:58.090 Acacea Lewis: Just. And

00:49:58.670 --> 00:50:04.100 Acacea Lewis: to D and T. Yes, and during one of my first acacia experiences

00:50:04.350 --> 00:50:14.429 Acacea Lewis: saw the link between symmetry, the ability to visualize isometric symmetric shapes and Dmt containing plants

00:50:14.540 --> 00:50:15.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so

00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:31.470 Acacea Lewis: making arrowheads would have been quite easier for someone on a Dmt. Or a after a Dmt. I will say experience where you're burning acacia wood in a fire, maybe drinking a beer made of Syrian Roux.

00:50:31.670 --> 00:50:52.530 Acacea Lewis: In ancient times. This is a combination that would have been very potent and potentially connected the stones, or or stone or flint making abilities with the anthogenic plants. And so taking mushrooms helps me to communicate with

00:50:52.590 --> 00:51:05.830 Acacea Lewis: the spirit and stone. What is the stone want to be, I has always been, rather than just putting a cute design on it. Sometimes these stones reveal patterns of

00:51:05.830 --> 00:51:23.120 Acacea Lewis: antiquity that develop into the most beautiful and unreplicatable patterns that you could ever find of mountains and streams, and you know beautiful women playing their flutes and such. And and so II was enamored by Chinese jade carving, and I've

00:51:23.150 --> 00:51:33.359 Acacea Lewis: I've practiced for the last 2 years, and I've gotten good enough at it that I just finished my first commission of a Hutton jade leaf for one of my clients this past week.

00:51:33.500 --> 00:51:48.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, beautiful, beautiful! Well, I hope you do many more carving, so I can see your your gallery of carving some time in the future. And and it's you know, crystals are something I've worked with

00:51:48.700 --> 00:52:02.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for many years, knowing that, like Selenite, is a really good crystal for clearing energies. Obsidian you mentioned, and black tourmaline. Very good for protection from energies.

00:52:02.380 --> 00:52:25.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And yeah, it's something that's been around since ancient times. I mean, if you look at ancient throne rooms and temples, the columns were often made out of lapis lazuli or malachite. So the the ancient times, even the Emperor's new like to surround themselves with. These kinds of minerals

00:52:25.120 --> 00:52:37.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: added something, and that, you know, ancient crowns had certain crystals, certain certain gems in the crowns which was believed to help with connection to the divine.

00:52:37.560 --> 00:52:45.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So this is something that's that's that's actually has very ancient roots that we're only, I think, rediscovering today.

00:52:46.970 --> 00:52:57.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant:  with all that you've learned and all that you've discovered over your years of working with it? Do you still have

00:52:57.530 --> 00:53:06.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: surprises? Do you still have things that come up, or or maybe even different challenges that come up that that surprise you?

00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:29.340 Acacea Lewis: Well, thanks for asking Sam. Absolutely. Every single experience is challenging and different. You know, these days I don't work with psilocybin very often, maybe once a year, you know, once every 6 months, Max, pretty much because I need a long time to really integrate, especially

00:53:29.530 --> 00:53:39.440 Acacea Lewis: because I initiated as a Buddhist, or lay Buddhist monk under Llama, Mike Crowley. or coma chromatins and Dorges.

00:53:39.490 --> 00:53:50.309 Acacea Lewis: And so in in our tradition, utilizing the mushroom comes with intense discipline of the mind, and becoming present with the here and now.

00:53:50.370 --> 00:53:53.929 Acacea Lewis: and a purification of

00:53:53.950 --> 00:54:02.890 Acacea Lewis: different psychological disturbance for the 5 poisons anchor version, such and such and so

00:54:02.930 --> 00:54:08.500 Acacea Lewis: it's it's become even more interesting over the years, because I've gotten to see

00:54:08.680 --> 00:54:13.780 Acacea Lewis: how my state of mind has evolved from having intrusive thoughts to

00:54:13.910 --> 00:54:21.520 Acacea Lewis: now, being pretty placid for the most part, you know, I still get irritated, and I gotta work on that. But

00:54:21.810 --> 00:54:26.950 Acacea Lewis: I'm I'm watching myself grow and evolve, and I hope to continue that process.

00:54:27.520 --> 00:54:44.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, it sounds like you're still a human being. I'm glad to hear that. I think we all while we're here, for in in the physical body there, there's always something to to to work on. So that's I'm really glad to hear that you're still doing this work. And

00:54:44.420 --> 00:54:57.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wow! Huh! And congratulations on your your Buddhist initiation and being able to work with Mike Crowley, I I'm I'm I'm I'm a tinge, just a tinge jealous. So

00:54:58.170 --> 00:55:08.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's the end of our show acacia. If if people are interested want to learn more about you. Wanna learn how to work with you, or where should they go? What's your website? All that other good stuff?

00:55:09.790 --> 00:55:15.090 Acacea Lewis: Thank you so much, Sam. I was honored to be here. I really appreciate your time.

00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:23.000 Acacea Lewis: and my, my, the easiest way to contact me is through my Instagram. It's at symbol.

00:55:23.050 --> 00:55:28.380 Acacea Lewis: a as an apple, C, as in cat, a as an apple, C, as in cat, E, as an echo.

00:55:28.670 --> 00:55:30.050 Acacea Lewis: a as an apple

00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:34.669 Acacea Lewis: LEWI. S.

00:55:34.700 --> 00:55:42.459 Acacea Lewis: Acacia Lewis. and you can send me a DM. And I'll try to respond to it, or you can subscribe to my website

00:55:42.490 --> 00:55:50.490 Acacea Lewis: acacia and I also have classes available sometimes.

00:55:50.510 --> 00:55:56.399 Acacea Lewis: At my Kajabi page, which is accessible through my link and bio on Instagram.

00:55:56.900 --> 00:56:22.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful. Well, thank you so much. Akasha again, if you wanna learn more about her. WWW. Akashia Thank you so much for for calling in while you're on the road going to the conference. I'm wishing you much much success with your talks at at the conference, and please give my love to Stephen Gray when you're there.

00:56:22.950 --> 00:56:25.799 Acacea Lewis: Thank you so much, Sam. I appreciate your time.

00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:34.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, I appreciate you, too. Thank you. And again, if if you want to attend the Spirit Plant Medicine Conference.

00:56:34.670 --> 00:56:59.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: either in person in in Vancouver, starting tomorrow or online, it's WWW. Dot spiritplant, and you can use the code. Save the world, that's all. One word save the world. All one word for an extra 10% discount highly recommended. Hope you will tune in. This has been this is the last in the series

00:56:59.660 --> 00:57:18.339 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: of 3 shows that they've sponsored. We've brought on different speakers from the conference. Please go back, Mark Harden Melanie Waterfall over the last couple of weeks. And now, Casey Lewis. So I hope you check them out. And of course, thank you. My loyal listeners, especially Patty. I see you on the

00:57:18.340 --> 00:57:23.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on the Youtube live sharing the the video stream as always. Thank you, Patty.

00:57:23.520 --> 00:57:43.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: thank you all for tuning in. Remember, if you missed any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on talk radio dot, Nyc, and we're available on all the major podcasting platforms, apple, Amazon, Google spotify Pandora iheartradio. And if you know anyone who you feel would make a great host

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