This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam is pleased to welcome Addiction Recovery Coach, Psycho-Spiritual Preparation Coach, Integration Coach, and Death Doula, Melanie Waterfall.
Melanie’s gift is to intuitively hold space for others on their healing journeys to rediscover their own divine light.
With over 25 years of experience in various Spiritual and Personal Growth Modalities, with the use of Plant Medicine and without, Melanie guides her clients to heal themselves.
As a survivor of various types of Abuse & Traumas, Melanie has an empathic understanding of those courageous enough to heal core wounds and break old patterns that are reinforcing PSTD, OCD, Anxiety and depression. Releasing dysfunctional coping mechanisms opens the way to a healthier and more joyful life.
In a safe, non-judgmental, and compassionate space, she encourages her clients to challenge their thoughts and beliefs. Working with Plant Medicines paves new neurological pathways creating the opportunity to confidently step into our Divine Light. She will work with clients to integrate new habits and create a customized plan, empowering them to succeed on their terms.
Tune in and join the conversation as Sam and Melanie discuss all about the experience of 5MEO-DMT and how important integration is for our healing journey.
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Commencing the show, Sam shares an excerpt from his book "Everyday Awakening," titled "Letting go of expectations opens us to the magic of life." This week, The Conscious Consultant Hour features an exciting guest, Melanie Waterfall, an esteemed Addiction Recovery Coach, Psycho-Spiritual Preparation Coach, Integration Coach, and Death Doula, whom Sam warmly welcomes.
Melanie embarked on a personal journey of healing after enduring instances of abuse and trauma during her youth. She shares with the audience the pivotal moments that motivated her to begin assisting others on their healing paths. During the discussion, Sam and Melanie delve into the potential hazards associated with untrained individuals employing psychedelics for therapeutic purposes. They also explore the topic of 5MEO-DMT and recount Melanie's serendipitous encounter with this particular form of medicine.
Melanie shares with the audience her upcoming presentation at the Spirit Plant Medicine conference, giving insight into the content she plans to cover. Through her own healing journey and aiding others, Melanie learned to overcome her obstacles and cultivate a deeper sense of presence. Her work with clients has notably enhanced her intuitive abilities. Melanie highlights the positive transformations she has witnessed in her clients. Engaging in conversation, Melanie and Sam underscore the critical significance of adequate preparation when utilizing psychedelics.
Melanie discusses the resurgence of Death Doulas and provides her perspective on the reasons behind this trend. She emphasizes the interconnected nature of psychedelics and the contemplation of mortality. For those interested in discovering more about Melanie and her offerings, visit DivineLightIntegration.com. Additionally, more information about her upcoming conference can be found at www.SpiritPlantmedicine.com.
00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:57.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: good afternoon. Good morning. Good evening, my conscious co-creators. Welcome to that conscious consult now, or awakening humanity wherever you're tuning in from welcome to today's show. I am truly excited about my guest. Today we are continuing our theme and our coverage of the upcoming
00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:10.049 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Spirit Plant Medicine Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia. Got another wonderful speaker looking forward to bringing her on but first, of course
00:01:10.360 --> 00:01:28.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: well, no, it's not, of course, because we finished my book last week. That's right. I've been reading little sections of my book for about the last 2 years, maybe probably a little over 2 years, and last week was my last section of the book.
00:01:28.450 --> 00:01:32.779 So I've been trying to figure out what to do, and and
00:01:34.330 --> 00:01:54.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and how I was going to Restart. And you know some people said, Oh, just start the book over again, which you know, maybe I'll do in the future a little bit. But the since the book was all kinds of thoughts and ideas around that came from my blog posts, I thought, let me just go back and let me just start with some of my blog posts.
00:01:55.380 --> 00:01:56.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:09.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This is a sort of the first from going back a couple of years, and the title of this one is letting go of expectations opens us to the magic of life.
00:02:10.330 --> 00:02:21.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We all have desires. our intentions, and our goals give us direction. They cause us to focus our efforts. Yet there's a trap
00:02:21.220 --> 00:02:23.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in having expectations.
00:02:23.490 --> 00:02:31.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for expectations are powerful forces indeed. They cause us to close down possibilities.
00:02:31.950 --> 00:02:38.070 and often we feel pressure to make these expects, those expectations a reality.
00:02:38.850 --> 00:02:40.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we do that.
00:02:40.340 --> 00:02:48.359 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we miss out on quite a lot. for expectations often bring with them resistance.
00:02:48.650 --> 00:02:53.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And when we focus so hard on making something happen a certain way.
00:02:54.010 --> 00:02:56.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we lose the magic of life.
00:02:57.500 --> 00:02:58.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There is
00:02:59.010 --> 00:03:02.969 forcing. That happens when we expect something to happen.
00:03:03.050 --> 00:03:13.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We push and strive and work ourselves into a frenzy. and when those expectations are not met we become angry, depressed, or sad.
00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:29.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: On the other hand, when we let go of expectations, we can be open to possibilities beyond our imagination. We can find ourselves in situations far greater than anything we could have conceived.
00:03:29.620 --> 00:03:44.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sometimes we need to get lost, to lose our expectations. and in that moment of feeling, lost and without direction, we stumble upon something wonderful.
00:03:44.710 --> 00:03:47.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Or perhaps we are creating an event.
00:03:47.390 --> 00:03:50.139 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we want everything to be perfect
00:03:50.490 --> 00:04:02.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in our pursuit of perfection. We can squeeze out of the moment any room for magic to happen. Yet when we focus on being present
00:04:02.450 --> 00:04:12.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and being open to what life brings us, we can find enormous opportunity for things to go far beyond what we could have expected.
00:04:14.190 --> 00:04:18.780 There is real magic, and being open and being present to what life presents
00:04:19.070 --> 00:04:26.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we try to control every potential outcome, when we force things to only go a certain way.
00:04:26.630 --> 00:04:30.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: then that is all life can bring us.
00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:38.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and when we release, control, let go of our expectations. Then we open the door to the infinite
00:04:38.460 --> 00:04:40.970 possibilities of life.
00:04:41.850 --> 00:04:45.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When our arms are open, we can receive.
00:04:45.990 --> 00:04:50.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if our arms are folded. then we can only observe.
00:04:51.960 --> 00:04:53.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So let's make
00:04:54.850 --> 00:05:03.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: this year a year of possibilities and openness. Let's find more ways to be present to the gifts of life.
00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:09.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can you find a way to let go of your expectations?
00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:21.179 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so this I wrote the beginning of twenty-twenty-one. and it was sort of inspired by
00:05:21.410 --> 00:05:24.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: listening to a a friend of mine.
00:05:24.810 --> 00:05:27.649 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Talk about someone
00:05:27.730 --> 00:05:37.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: who who are host ceremonies the way I host ceremonies. and how they they said something. That was a really interesting comment. They said
00:05:38.840 --> 00:05:45.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the container was very clean. and it was very precise, and it was great.
00:05:46.670 --> 00:05:52.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and at the same time it felt like there was no room for magic to happen.
00:05:52.900 --> 00:05:55.619 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I thought that was quite interesting.
00:05:56.400 --> 00:06:01.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because.
00:06:01.790 --> 00:06:10.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I always find that you know, the real magic in life happens when we open things up.
00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:12.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and
00:06:14.820 --> 00:06:21.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't know how to how to really relate this in a way that most people can get it. But
00:06:21.610 --> 00:06:23.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I find that
00:06:23.950 --> 00:06:30.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when I'm so stuck on things happening a certain way, when I'm so focused on that.
00:06:31.210 --> 00:06:40.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know it. It's gotta be like this. And II, you know, like that. And like this like when it when I get so much, it's gotta happen. It's gotta happen. It's gotta happen.
00:06:42.170 --> 00:06:45.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's often some resistance that Gadda
00:06:46.080 --> 00:06:48.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: creates resistance.
00:06:50.990 --> 00:06:52.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And
00:06:53.270 --> 00:07:02.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when there's that resistance, the very thing we're trying to attract the very thing we're trying to bring into our life. it just becomes harder. It's not happening.
00:07:04.740 --> 00:07:07.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so in my own life I've found that
00:07:08.270 --> 00:07:09.549 when I
00:07:11.060 --> 00:07:13.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: let go of the expectation.
00:07:14.810 --> 00:07:21.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when I just know in my heart of hearts like everything's perfect.
00:07:21.850 --> 00:07:29.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's going to unfold the way it unfolds might not do it. The way. I expect it doesn't have to
00:07:32.390 --> 00:07:44.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that. It actually can be better. And and and I often say to people, You know, II never imagined. you know, 1520 years ago that I'd be doing what I'm doing today.
00:07:45.260 --> 00:07:51.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so I often say that life has a much better imagination for me than I do
00:07:52.970 --> 00:07:54.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so I like to.
00:07:55.010 --> 00:08:00.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'd like to to kind of
00:08:00.430 --> 00:08:01.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: say like, let's
00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:09.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I like to for myself, find a way to let go of the expectation. I can have an intention. I think intentions are good.
00:08:10.500 --> 00:08:16.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but if we hold the intention lightly. we make room for the magic
00:08:17.830 --> 00:08:33.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and and like this is I've I've experienced this many times, like with with my wife when we're we're we're traveling someplace, or we're going someplace, and we don't quite know where we are, and and we're driving along, and and it's like, I don't know. Did I miss a turn or something? And she's like,
00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:46.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know my wife is fearless. She's like, Yeah, just get. Let's just keep going. Let's see. And then we stumble upon something, and that something that we stumble upon is like so beautiful, or so much better than what we were actually looking for.
00:08:47.160 --> 00:08:51.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and have had that experience several times.
00:08:52.400 --> 00:08:54.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I kind of feel like, well.
00:08:55.710 --> 00:09:10.959 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know, it's kinda like when I get lost, when I when when I when I stop expecting to find something, and I'm just open to what's right in front of me when I'm just present to what's right here right now, and just be with it
00:09:11.700 --> 00:09:16.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like some really interesting fun. Amazing beautiful things can unfold.
00:09:19.310 --> 00:09:34.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Now, look II know we're human beings, I know, like having expectations like comes with the territory. I I'm not saying by any means that I'm perfect, and that I'm totally detached, and I don't have any expectations of all. Of course not.
00:09:36.290 --> 00:09:38.799 But this blog post is
00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:40.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: about
00:09:40.300 --> 00:09:44.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: leaning in the direction of being more open.
00:09:44.820 --> 00:10:01.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: leaning into just having an intention and not an expectation, and being aware of when we do have expectations, because one of the most important things is, if we're not aware of our expectations, then they truly work against us.
00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:19.889 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But when we can at least have the self awareness like, Oh, I really have a strong expectation about this like, then we can say, Okay, I have an expectation. Let me loosen that up a little bit. Let me not be so focused on things happening exactly the way I want.
00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:25.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and oftentimes, you know you've in in in. It's kind of
00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:32.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: after the fact. But you know you had an expectation when there's some disappointment involved.
00:10:32.710 --> 00:10:45.119 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you see, cause when we just have an intention, and we allow things to flow. then there's no expectation. So then there's not necessarily any. We're not going to be disappointed because we didn't
00:10:45.160 --> 00:10:55.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: say, Oh, it's gotta be like this. So when we're experiencing disappointment. That's a really strong clue that we had a really strong expectation there.
00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:00.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So anyway, that's my
00:11:00.790 --> 00:11:09.989 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: blog post. And this is entitled letting go of expectations open. It opens us up to the magic of life.
00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:31.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You can find that in 2 places. Of course, on www. Dot consciousconsultantcom, and just go to the blog there. But you can also find it on the talk radio blog page. So just go to talk radio dot. Nyc slash, I believe it's just slash, blog, and and you'll see the blog as well.
00:11:31.130 --> 00:11:59.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So there's a 2 places you can find, and this one goes back to the beginning of 2021. That's why you hear me talk about. You know, the year to come, so we can make it the year to come of 2024. So let's go. Those let go of those expectations. So I hope I hope you like this new format of me talking about Blog going through my blog post as opposed to to little sections of my book. It's it's pretty similar. So I think you'd like it.
00:12:00.170 --> 00:12:14.220 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show addiction, recovery, coach, psycho, spiritual preparation, coach integration, coach, and death. Doula, Melanie Waterfall.
00:12:14.260 --> 00:12:22.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Melanie's gift is to intuitively hold space for others on their healing journeys, to rediscover their own divine light
00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:34.809 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with over 25 years of experience in various spiritual and personal personal growth, modalities with the use of plant medicine, and without Melanie guides her clients to heal themselves
00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:51.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: as a survivor of various types of abuse and traumas. Melanie has an empathic understanding of those courageous enough to heal core wounds and break old patterns that are reinforcing. PTSD. OCD. Anxiety and depression.
00:12:51.800 --> 00:12:57.650 releasing dysfunctional coping mechanisms, opens the way to a healthier or more joyful life
00:12:57.670 --> 00:13:14.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in a safe non judgmental and compassionate space. She encourages her clients to challenge their thoughts and beliefs. working with plant medicines, pave new neurological pathways, creating the opportunity to confidently step into our divine light.
00:13:14.990 --> 00:13:26.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She will work with clients to integrate new habits and create a customized plan, empowering them to succeed on their own terms. Welcome to the conscious consultant hour, Melanie.
00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.490 Melanie Waterfall: Hmm, thank you, Sam. Thank you for having me.
00:13:29.530 --> 00:13:50.780 Melanie Waterfall: Oh, it's my pleasure a a. Ever since we connected and and spoke, I've been really looking forward to having you come on because you're definitely a kindred soul. I really felt that in your, you know, reading your blog post, and you know so much in alignment of you know what I speak to with my clients and part of our preparation and integration?
00:13:50.780 --> 00:13:59.799 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, yes, yes, it's so so important. And I got so many questions. II just wanna start with one quick question before we take our break. And that is.
00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:13.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know it. This is kind of an odd field like this is not a mainstream thing to be doing these days. And so I'm just curious what sort of got you on this path
00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:23.849 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that, you know I know it usually starts with our path of our own healing. But but what sort of got you on this path of like? Oh, like this is the work I want to do with the rest of my life.
00:14:24.050 --> 00:14:24.880 Melanie Waterfall: No.
00:14:25.090 --> 00:14:30.929 Melanie Waterfall: yeah. Well, a, as you mentioned in your introduction, you know
00:14:31.130 --> 00:14:55.350 Melanie Waterfall: so many years of struggling with the outcome of the trauma that I experienced in my life, and, you know, was really fraught with a lot of anxiety and depression. And you know at at times I even, you know, contemplating, you know, suicide at, you know many times it got very, very dark, and I tried all with the things, you know. It's been
00:14:55.350 --> 00:15:05.029 Melanie Waterfall: 3 decades now that I've been working towards really healing my own core wounds. And you know, at best I thought I could manage my anxiety.
00:15:05.160 --> 00:15:24.080 Melanie Waterfall: And you know, it wasn't until I started working with, you know, psychedelic medicines that I was able to create a new set point in my being one that I had not experienced before, and that was deep sense of peace and calm and just feeling safe in my being.
00:15:25.880 --> 00:15:48.889 Melanie Waterfall: so that was a very clear message. And so once it began to work with these medicines more and more, and and doing the deep integration work, everything, you know fell into into line in in like a Tetris game. You know all of that information that I had stored all those years. Now I was able to embody it and really live through it. And so
00:15:49.620 --> 00:15:57.319 Melanie Waterfall: eventually, I just you know, the message came to just get out of my own way and be of service to this molecule. And
00:15:57.800 --> 00:16:13.819 Melanie Waterfall: when that happened, when I let go of my own expectations of the outcome, you know, the doors started flying open, and and really there was a notice within me that every time I was I've been able to be of service to a client.
00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:28.400 Melanie Waterfall: It's it's such a clear, clean energy coursing through my being. And I'm so fulfilled by the experience of just witnessing. You know, another being heal themselves. It's just
00:16:28.490 --> 00:16:29.580 Melanie Waterfall: such an honor.
00:16:29.650 --> 00:16:46.899 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm curious. Do you remember that very first experience you had many years ago? I'm curious. How did you come to that experience? Was it a friend invited you? Was it? Was it something you were looking for? Was it something that happened very unexpectedly?
00:16:48.540 --> 00:17:15.230 Melanie Waterfall: Oh, well, I was in a in a therapeutic session with my own facilitator, and we were working with mdma. And so and you know we're deepening. And I was going through my second divorce, and trying to understand all of it, and and all of these beautiful and amazing insights came to me. You know, while I was in in the medicine, and
00:17:15.339 --> 00:17:30.130 Melanie Waterfall: it was so profound for me, you know. All of these insights came and just aligned, and I was able to actually, you know, coming back to that acceptance of the outcome, deep, deep acceptance of what is
00:17:30.950 --> 00:17:33.640 Melanie Waterfall: is truly what
00:17:34.410 --> 00:17:44.899 Melanie Waterfall: created such a pivotal shift in my whole perspective of life. So it just really led me down a path. And I knew
00:17:45.150 --> 00:17:48.529 Melanie Waterfall: deeply that I was like on the on the right path.
00:17:48.950 --> 00:18:07.199 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, excellent, excellent, wonderful wonderful. Well, thank you for sharing that. We're gonna take our first break. I do see loyal listener, Patty tuning in on the the Youtube live stream. Thank you, Patty, always always glad to see you checking in each day. Make sure you let us know if you have any questions throughout this show.
00:18:07.530 --> 00:18:12.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we come back. You know, it's it's a step from
00:18:13.780 --> 00:18:25.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: engaging in this stuff for our own healing to them, becoming a facilitator. So I'd love to talk about like what that transition was like. And at what point did you really decide like you wanted to help others
00:18:25.600 --> 00:18:33.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: using these same molecules and and helping them, and and sort of what that experience was like making that transition. Okay.
00:18:35.610 --> 00:18:54.099 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now, or weakening humanity. We do this every Thursday, 12 noon to one pm, Eastern time, right here on talk radio, dot Nyc and all over social media on Youtube and Twitter and Facebook and Linkedin and Twitch.
00:18:54.190 --> 00:18:59.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and we'll be right back with our guest, Melanie Waterfall in just a moment.
00:21:09.140 --> 00:21:26.269 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. So, so, Melanie, you you were on a path of your own healing for many years. I mean you. You suffered abuse. You have trauma, I mean. We all have trauma, you know, big tease and little t trauma
00:21:26.290 --> 00:21:28.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But at what point in your journey
00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:37.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: did you did it? Did you say to yourself, or did it just come to you that like, Oh, like I wanna use this work to help other people?
00:21:37.810 --> 00:22:09.930 Melanie Waterfall: Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I've been a life coach in in various forms for quite a few years. I used to have a professional organizing business that really tapped into my Ocd. And I got to work with it in a productive way. And so but that goes deeper, you know, when we go into people's homes. And so there's a lot of support required on that, on an emotional, mental, even spiritual level when we help people in that way.
00:22:09.930 --> 00:22:25.980 Melanie Waterfall: And so it was a really nice transition for me to be a service in a really deep and meaningful way. So you know, after a couple of years of really deep work with these medicines and understanding
00:22:27.190 --> 00:22:40.760 Melanie Waterfall: the importance of preparation and integration again, my taking my course with being true to you. For my preparation and integration, coaching and addiction recovery program
00:22:40.830 --> 00:23:02.640 Melanie Waterfall: which was phenomenal. I really was able to get a much deeper understanding of how we work and trauma and addiction, and how they're connected. And you know, although I'd already had a, you know, a lifetime of experience, and and through counseling and understanding all of the dynamics that addiction can bring into a family in one's life.
00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:21.219 Melanie Waterfall: This was a really beautiful addition to that and then I began, also took my microdose coaching program and you know, to help be support when people wanna take the path of of microdosing to you know, learn more about their inner realm.
00:23:21.460 --> 00:23:51.460 Melanie Waterfall: And then, of course, you know my passion of being a service in the most sacred manner is as a death, Doola. So II also expanded my education as a death dealer, and while all of that was happening you know, still working with these medicines, and you know it came repeatedly to me through several ceremonies that I needed to get out of my own way and be a service.
00:23:52.670 --> 00:24:02.059 Melanie Waterfall: And of course, at first I was like no, no, no, no! But it kept happening and kept coming very clearly. And so
00:24:03.280 --> 00:24:05.540 Melanie Waterfall: that was a big step for me. Because
00:24:05.610 --> 00:24:32.910 Melanie Waterfall: now I'm taking on this really phenomenal responsibility of holding space for someone's spirit and their entire consciousness to really come into a a new notice of themselves. And so it's such a deep, deep honor for me to hold this container and co-create you know, with my clients.
00:24:32.980 --> 00:24:34.299 Melanie Waterfall: And it's a 2
00:24:34.430 --> 00:24:45.529 Melanie Waterfall: phenomenal thing to witness, you know, to bear witness. Cause we are all connected. And so when we're healing and we're having these deep insights.
00:24:45.550 --> 00:25:01.590 Melanie Waterfall: you know, II really feel that I'm in that with my client. There's such a deep bond. That's, you know, created between myself and my client and it's really an honor to have that level of trust
00:25:01.600 --> 00:25:14.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: true, and I think it's something that people who are relatively new to this kind of space often forget is that when you're working with these substances and you're facilitating somebody.
00:25:15.320 --> 00:25:29.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the physical aspect is important, like, you need to know right there medications. You need to know there's not going to be any contraindications. So like harming someone physically is a real issue if you don't know what you're doing.
00:25:29.300 --> 00:25:47.859 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But the deeper issue is actually harming their consciousness, like when you decide to sit for someone or facilitate someone. You're not just working with their wiring or their neurons like you're working with their soul, their spirit, their consciousness.
00:25:47.990 --> 00:25:53.540 and that aspect of it is so much more precarious, isn't it
00:25:53.910 --> 00:26:04.870 Melanie Waterfall: so so deep? And and you know this molecule? 5. Me. Od, it really does work on a vibrational level.
00:26:04.970 --> 00:26:06.689 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: right, and so
00:26:07.120 --> 00:26:12.809 Melanie Waterfall: it it. It requires us to really get out of our own way, and and
00:26:12.840 --> 00:26:27.249 Melanie Waterfall: and of course release our attachment to the outcome. You know it with this molecule as much as we put in a lot of time and effort in preparation, and and do really hone in on our intention.
00:26:27.570 --> 00:26:42.200 Melanie Waterfall: it is invited to be held loosely, because I feel that this medicine has a far deeper wisdom that we are able to comprehend at this time. In our consciousness, you know. And it will definitely give us what we need.
00:26:42.710 --> 00:26:48.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, not always what we want, but what we need.
00:26:48.750 --> 00:26:55.500 Melanie Waterfall: It's important to understand the wisdom of letting go of our attachment to that outcome.
00:26:55.660 --> 00:27:04.850 Melanie Waterfall: and to stay. Curious as as we are truly limitless beings, so if we have that attachment to the outcome. We're we're just really
00:27:04.910 --> 00:27:07.220 Melanie Waterfall: squeezing ourself in a little box.
00:27:07.330 --> 00:27:24.430 Melanie Waterfall: So I really do appreciate what you said about your blog, and so much resonates in terms of how I work with my clients, and it's only after the ceremony that we come back to that intention and weave it in to the experience that they've had
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: right? Right?
00:27:26.270 --> 00:27:31.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I mean, I've my listeners know of of
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:44.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: been doing my own work in this field for over 9 and a half years, and that I've tried a lot of different things over that time, and I only recently came to 5 meo, I mean, II tried it for the first time
00:27:44.810 --> 00:27:59.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a little less than 2 years ago. I've only done it twice. It's very, very powerful experience. And I'm actually glad that I didn't do it too soon in my journey, cause I think it would have been a little
00:27:59.430 --> 00:28:02.659 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: too unnerving to drawing
00:28:03.110 --> 00:28:25.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How did you come to that particular medicine because there's all kinds of stuff people love Ayahuasca San Pedro, psilocybin. I mean, there's there's so many, and Mdma and and and Yopa, and it's like a tons and tons of different plant medicines. How did you come to the 5 meo? And why does that one resonate with you so much.
00:28:27.090 --> 00:28:28.490 Melanie Waterfall: Well.
00:28:29.030 --> 00:28:44.169 Melanie Waterfall: it was during some therapeutic you know, psychedelic therapy sessions with my facilitator, and I feel that it it speaks to me on on a level where, you know.
00:28:44.250 --> 00:28:47.419 Melanie Waterfall: Oh, this is a huge topic. So
00:28:47.460 --> 00:28:58.419 Melanie Waterfall: my, you know with anxiety, with the level of anxiety that I was living with, you know, 2, 3 panic attacks a day. My ego was like really attached to that identity.
00:28:58.530 --> 00:29:17.370 Melanie Waterfall: And and so, like you said, this is a really powerful molecule. So the most powerful ethnic. And we have known to us at this time. Right? So it's not that my ego was the ego that was out there, saying, I'm all that more. My ego was like, stay quiet, use
00:29:17.730 --> 00:29:45.089 Melanie Waterfall: perfect as possible, and really hold tight to that outcome control. Try to control the the narrative, you know, and have everything in its place. And so that was I realized through my work with this molecule by creating. And ha! I feel that this molecule really offers us the insight as to our ego awareness rather than ego death, even though that ego has to take a step aside.
00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:52.769 Melanie Waterfall: Then, you know, our true essence is able to bubble up and reveal itself. And so it was then
00:29:52.900 --> 00:29:59.170 Melanie Waterfall: my ego needed this much of a medicine to really shake it loose.
00:29:59.630 --> 00:30:03.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So it's like you really needed something strong to kind of punch through
00:30:03.520 --> 00:30:08.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so that you can then like, oh, like, get at that.
00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:11.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: There's more to us than just
00:30:12.040 --> 00:30:25.129 Melanie Waterfall: this sort of individual existence. Yes, that's so true. And it was really realigning and and and sorting me out in a new vibration.
00:30:25.580 --> 00:30:33.989 Melanie Waterfall: And it was. That was that's what I had to integrate was this new vibration of this medicine that was ignited within me?
00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:53.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, gotcha gotcha. Okay, it's time to first take our next break when we come back. Let's just talk about like, how do you work with people and and and what has it been like for your own sort of development, working with others and helping others to heal?
00:30:53.730 --> 00:31:06.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because it's a very sort of different thing of when you're just focused on yourself and working on your own healing. And now, suddenly, you're working, helping others, and there's both an honor and a responsibility in there, isn't there?
00:31:06.750 --> 00:31:22.640 Melanie Waterfall: So much. So. So III appreciate the way you put that because it's both. And devotion really, yeah, absolutely. And I do want to touch upon the the death, do the work that that you do as well little later on. So we'll get into that as well. Okay, sure
00:31:23.010 --> 00:31:34.650 awesome. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now awakening humanity. With our guest today, Melanie Waterfall, and we will be right back
00:31:34.760 --> 00:31:35.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: after this.
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00:35:01.620 --> 00:35:03.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Welcome back, Melody.
00:35:04.290 --> 00:35:09.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So you're giving a talk at the conference. What's the title of your talk?
00:35:09.330 --> 00:35:14.160 Melanie Waterfall: Oh, I love it! It's reclamation of the spirit
00:35:14.210 --> 00:35:42.719 Melanie Waterfall: breaking through all paradigms with 5 me Od. Alongside Richard K. Who runs the sentinel retreat center at a Kas low. And so it's just such an honor to be invited to participate and share the stage with all these amazing, amazing beings. Yes, oh, my God! I so wish I could be there! II was planning on attending, except I'm ending up going to Peru. So
00:35:42.720 --> 00:35:51.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was a little bit too much to fly out to Vancouver and come back, and then like turn around and fly out to Peru. So I'll have to make next year's conference.
00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:57.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so we're talking about. And I'm curious when you went from just
00:35:57.770 --> 00:36:15.609 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: using these molecules and using these these plants to heal yourself to becoming a practitioner. And now you're starting to work with people. And and, as we mentioned before, the responsibility as well as the honor and the extreme reverence for doing it. What did you learn about yourself? What what happened
00:36:15.870 --> 00:36:23.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for your own development when you were now facilitating others instead of being facilitated?
00:36:23.660 --> 00:36:25.689 Melanie Waterfall: Oh, I love that question.
00:36:27.850 --> 00:36:39.309 Melanie Waterfall: It was another layer of really getting out of my own way and deepening my presence being a vessel of of compassion and non judgment
00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:44.359 Melanie Waterfall: and really deepening those listening skills. And you know.
00:36:44.380 --> 00:36:50.840 Melanie Waterfall: and as a spiritual being, there's a connection, you know, you and I have
00:36:51.080 --> 00:37:05.260 Melanie Waterfall: a a connection. There is, even though we're all navigating this world. You know this realm on our as individual beings. We're all connected, and I can. I deeply feel others pain.
00:37:05.350 --> 00:37:23.370 Melanie Waterfall: I share their excitement. It's just it's so profound for me to be able to sit and be present and connect with someone else's energy and and understand what they're going through on a very deep deep, like cellular level for me. And so.
00:37:24.040 --> 00:37:35.040 Melanie Waterfall: because I've you know, been through it myself, it allows me to have that deeper, you know, empathetic and compassionate understanding. And
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:39.489 Melanie Waterfall: these medicines really strengthen that intuitive muscle.
00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:44.239 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so when I am working with my clients. I'm I'm really
00:37:44.570 --> 00:37:52.989 Melanie Waterfall: deepening. And listen to that intuition within my own being of how to be a best service to them.
00:37:53.240 --> 00:38:02.759 Melanie Waterfall: But truly it's an honor for me to to witness them coming to that for themselves, and empower them themselves to trust that.
00:38:03.500 --> 00:38:25.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and I'm curious if maybe you can give our audience some examples of what are the changes you've seen happen with with clients you've worked with like, how were they coming into a ceremony? And what happened after the experience? And and after you worked with them with integration, like, what sort of changes have you seen? What kind of miracles have you witnessed, I guess, is what I'm asking.
00:38:26.590 --> 00:38:30.209 Melanie Waterfall: You know everybody comes to this, this medicine
00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:31.790 Melanie Waterfall: so uniquely
00:38:31.810 --> 00:38:53.179 Melanie Waterfall: right. I mean, I work with people who have lost children who, you know, experience deep grief, who are going through divorce, who are overcoming you know, substance abuse. Recently, I've had this you know, a few clients who are new moms, and, you know.
00:38:53.180 --> 00:39:11.700 Melanie Waterfall: just really have lost their sense of self after becoming a mother. And and who am I without the this narrative that that I've had going through. And and and now I'm a mom, and I don't want to bring that old programming into. You know how I, parent. And so
00:39:11.850 --> 00:39:22.540 Melanie Waterfall: I think really the one of the most poignant and and powerful experiences is to witness. You know someone come in with a very
00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:26.020 Melanie Waterfall: old mindset that
00:39:26.130 --> 00:39:32.760 Melanie Waterfall: is so locked into their identity, and to witness that like moment of
00:39:33.520 --> 00:39:40.490 Melanie Waterfall: Okay, I am not my thoughts. I am not this old belief and to
00:39:41.040 --> 00:39:55.659 Melanie Waterfall: release that. And it's like releasing the shackles. And and you know I can feel and sense with every self my own being, as their vibration shifts and changes. And you know, integration is
00:39:55.930 --> 00:40:04.970 Melanie Waterfall: an ongoing process, and I'm working with a molecule like this where it strips away everything that we are in this realm
00:40:05.060 --> 00:40:10.570 Melanie Waterfall: to to reveal what our true essence is beyond body, beyond
00:40:10.610 --> 00:40:14.009 Melanie Waterfall: ego, beyond thought, judgment.
00:40:14.330 --> 00:40:17.729 Melanie Waterfall: so to witness that in itself, as a miracle.
00:40:17.780 --> 00:40:31.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't think there's anything else that can really go to that level of awareness and cellular.
00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:37.319 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Y, you brought up before. And I wanna talk about it some more, because I feel it's so important.
00:40:37.560 --> 00:40:47.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The work with integration will the work with preparation and integration, because sometimes people sort of rush into these things, and they don't
00:40:47.790 --> 00:41:01.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: properly prepare themselves. And then they go to an experience. And then they're not taking that experience and working on the integration aspect of it. So so why is preparation and integration so important for you?
00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:19.420 Melanie Waterfall: Well, in my own introduction to this molecule I had no preparation. So II realized afterwards, you know, as we look back on on an experience and through my education, how important preparation is. And you know.
00:41:19.580 --> 00:41:39.289 Melanie Waterfall: I think this is a really big piece that II want to bring a lot of awareness to as as a coach and facilitator is that when we are able to step into an experience feeling like I am the co-creator of this experience. Not you know, it's happening to me.
00:41:39.370 --> 00:41:54.609 Melanie Waterfall: And and I'm giving my power away to the facilitator of the guide, or or you know the Guru, or Shaman, or whatever they want to call themselves, which I to me is a red flag with this medicine
00:41:54.710 --> 00:41:57.579 Melanie Waterfall: conversation. But
00:41:58.240 --> 00:42:17.130 Melanie Waterfall: when we're properly prepared, we've already begun the journey. The ceremony, when we feel empowered to step into this medicine and welcome it truly into our being. This is where the most profound shifts can occur. You know, I feel that it's while
00:42:17.160 --> 00:42:19.279 Melanie Waterfall: there's no words or no
00:42:19.300 --> 00:42:40.920 Melanie Waterfall: amount of preparation to truly articulate what this medicine is. It's a lived experience. It's really important to understand and prepare one's being to set themselves up for success after the ceremony as well. And you know, as we hone in on our in our intentions.
00:42:41.900 --> 00:43:07.479 Melanie Waterfall: It helps us to, you know, like I was saying earlier, we can. We come back to that intention after the ceremony with the integration? And really this is not a working with these medicines isn't like, okay, I take the medicine. And now I'm fixed. Massive misconception that people have is no, this is, I mean, maybe you know, I often liken it to like a champagne bottle.
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:14.450 Melanie Waterfall: You know you open that champagne bottle, and the first time you work with this medicine it's like all of your stuff comes
00:43:14.610 --> 00:43:33.219 Melanie Waterfall: spring out, and it's a huge explosion of of your consciousness and awakening. And you know and then integration is those little bubbles that are rising to the top that maybe are little bit slower to to rise, and maybe they need a little bit of coursing to to release.
00:43:33.670 --> 00:43:35.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so
00:43:35.210 --> 00:43:54.640 Melanie Waterfall: this is a beautiful medicine that keeps on giving, and as we move through our days afterwards, you know, we can see with new eyes, we can respond in different ways. Because we have this wonderful, you know, neuroplasticity, that you know, this snow globe of our mind has been shaken up, and we get to actually
00:43:54.660 --> 00:44:18.839 Melanie Waterfall: take the driver seat and choose intentionally how we respond. So this is how I work with my clients is, you know. That's how we come back to the intention, and and I give them lots of tools and tips, and what even practice things like having boundaries or talk about, you know, especially self love and awareness and self worth.
00:44:19.290 --> 00:44:25.460 Melanie Waterfall: So it's often that people are coming to me because their self worth is low and they don't see their own divine mind.
00:44:25.610 --> 00:44:33.490 Melanie Waterfall: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know, when we talk about miracles, it's witnessing someone come into their own domain.
00:44:33.540 --> 00:44:47.399 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, they often talk about the 5 me or Dmt, as it's when you experience it, it's experiencing ego death. It's experiencing that lack of separation to all that is.
00:44:48.790 --> 00:44:53.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do you find that if people are not properly prepared for that, that can be overwhelming.
00:44:54.550 --> 00:45:02.130 Melanie Waterfall: Well, for sure, you know. I have many clients that come to me after an experience.
00:45:02.510 --> 00:45:04.540 Melanie Waterfall: feeling very destabilized.
00:45:04.660 --> 00:45:21.899 Melanie Waterfall: you know, and perhaps the not even because they don't know what they don't know if they haven't been properly prepared right? They don't really know how to, or you know how to vet their facilitator, how to find a facilitator. And because, you know
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:34.969 Melanie Waterfall: this isn't a widely known medicine a. A yet, I mean, it's gaining popularity. And and I'm deeply grateful for that, because, of course, you know, I feel like this is how we heal the world.
00:45:35.390 --> 00:45:36.410 Melanie Waterfall: but
00:45:36.920 --> 00:46:02.009 Melanie Waterfall: you know they'll go to a facilitator, and so they serve them, and and then they're out the door, and there's no integration. Or you know, it's it's interesting. I hear of clients, you know, where the facilitators like ghosting them afterwards and not feeling to stabilize. They don't understand about reactivations. Those can be really disorienting. If you're not properly prepared and understand what you're getting yourself into.
00:46:02.170 --> 00:46:22.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and so it can without proper support around this medicine. It can be destabilizing. And it's not everybody, either, right? Exactly, exactly. And I really appreciate everything that you're saying, because I feel so often
00:46:22.330 --> 00:46:26.789 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: people rush into these experiences.
00:46:27.240 --> 00:46:45.169 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean, let's face, a lot of people are suffering. People rush into the experiences because they're suffering, and then they're not being very careful about who they decide to work with, and what kind of support there is around it, and and and all kinds of just basic questions like, how long have they been doing it? What kind of training have they gotten? And
00:46:45.390 --> 00:46:49.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and and I feel like a lot of harm can be done when you don't
00:46:50.080 --> 00:47:09.709 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: check into it. But but when you ask the right questions, when you take the time to do your research, when you see like, does the facilitator appreciate the concept of set setting and server. You know, some of the basic stuff that we know. If like, that's not if they're not being mindful of that then maybe
00:47:09.900 --> 00:47:19.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: might not be the right person for you to work with. But I get it like there's so much suffering out there. People are just desperate for anything. So II hope that
00:47:20.020 --> 00:47:37.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: people can really hear this message of reaching out to people investigating find people who have been in the industry for a while that they're not just brand new and ask questions. It's so important isn't it
00:47:37.350 --> 00:47:48.570 Melanie Waterfall: it truly is you know to understand that I mean this is your first step into taking your power back is to really choose your facilitator wisely.
00:47:48.570 --> 00:48:10.980 Melanie Waterfall: and owning the experience rather than it happening to you. Right? You are a co-creator of this. And so just as much as it's my responsibility as a facilitator to, you know. And I and we all work differently right. We all have our own containers, but for me my containers is taking my client from short to short.
00:48:11.140 --> 00:48:13.409 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and making sure. You know
00:48:13.450 --> 00:48:21.590 Melanie Waterfall: they step forward with with confidence, grace. And and you know, a sense of self, a healthier sense of self.
00:48:21.620 --> 00:48:22.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And what needs?
00:48:22.970 --> 00:48:26.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay.
00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:49.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can't believe it is our last break of the show. It went, flew by so fast, still got a few more questions for you. I could speak with you for hours and hours and hours. Melanie, II just love where you're at so when we come back, I really wanna just touch upon the death. Do the work that you do cause I feel like that's another important topic, and then we'll wrap everything up, and maybe you can share for those that doesn't know what.
00:48:49.820 --> 00:49:13.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How would you describe the experience of 5 me or Dmt. Which is not an easy task. So everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consult now are awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday 12 noon to one pm, eastern time right here in talk radio data, Nyc, and we'll be right back into. Wrap it up with our guest, Melanie Waterfall. In just a moment.
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:40.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: okay. So we don't have that much time left. So I really wanna dig into the death Doola work, cause I've had people on the past. Come on the show and talk about it. And and there's this wonderful book called The Inner Work of Age. That's all about you know, using when we're getting older. How that can be like, it's such a wonderful personal development experience.
00:51:40.560 --> 00:51:43.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But in society today we're so
00:51:44.020 --> 00:51:54.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a a, a almost unconscious about death. It's like we don't wanna talk about it until somebody close to us dies. We're always staying far away from it.
00:51:54.920 --> 00:52:02.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Why are there so many death dual is now, why is it coming back into our awareness? Because for so long it wasn't.
00:52:03.640 --> 00:52:12.090 Melanie Waterfall: Yeah. I think that psychedelics and deaths are related.
00:52:12.620 --> 00:52:36.929 Melanie Waterfall: We go through a death and rebirth process when we work with these medicines, especially in medicine, like 5 that is often referred to as similar to a near death experience. And so it was through my work with this medicine that it was really quite profound for me to reestablish or or re
00:52:36.980 --> 00:52:52.869 Melanie Waterfall: renew my own relationship with death and my mortality. You know, understanding that I am much more than this divine garment that I get to truck around in in this, you know, 3 dimensional realm. And and having this human experience
00:52:53.260 --> 00:53:03.800 Melanie Waterfall: it really, and having that notice within my being actually changed so much of my my vibration, and how I show up in in, you know, for life now,
00:53:04.080 --> 00:53:19.949 Melanie Waterfall: Knowing that. And so, you know, I had people coming to me. It was one client that I work with, not with 5 Emil. It was for Psilocybin, who had lung cancer, who came to me and asked me for an end of life ceremony.
00:53:20.450 --> 00:53:22.150 and it was so
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:28.640 Melanie Waterfall: incredibly profound to hold space for him, as he you know, was
00:53:28.820 --> 00:53:32.470 Melanie Waterfall: really just within a week of passing.
00:53:32.530 --> 00:53:34.860 Melanie Waterfall: and so he could
00:53:34.910 --> 00:53:59.300 Melanie Waterfall: just common to a deeper acceptance of his experience and and his life here, his journey here. It release a lot of anxiety and and pressure that he'd been feeling, and he was really able to transition in such an incredibly peaceful manner, and it was my promise to him that I would become a death doom. And
00:53:59.610 --> 00:54:23.430 Melanie Waterfall: so that's what I did. And through the Anam Kara Academy, which is, was just so, such a beautiful experience and studying death and different cultures. And I mean, really, none of us escape this experience. It's part of our human experience. And so it's best to come to terms with it, and really let go of our expectation of that outcome, too.
00:54:23.430 --> 00:54:45.559 Melanie Waterfall: You know we don't have any control over it, for the most part, you know, and to be able to have the the, the blessing and the and the opportunity to sit and and create co-create our our experience around death is is such a, you know, beautiful opportunity.
00:54:45.580 --> 00:54:53.500 Melanie Waterfall: And again, one of the highest honors that I can hold is to be present for those that are ready to transition.
00:55:23.730 --> 00:55:52.010 Melanie Waterfall: You know it's a very fast acting molecule. So by the time you've inhaled it and started counting to 10, it's already taking effect. And all of a sudden, you know, the impact of it can come on depending on dose. Right? We always work with those. So it's not always that full release that we're going for but it's a it's a shedding of it's a it feels like.
00:55:52.890 --> 00:56:03.500 Melanie Waterfall: you know. Some molecules will take you. You're in a in a high ride, High Rise building, and you know, here on the fourth floor you've got cannabis, or, you know, on the sixth floor. You've got
00:56:03.500 --> 00:56:25.189 Melanie Waterfall: psilocybin, and maybe up few more levels. You have. Lsd, and then way at the top, you have an N. DM, T. Maybe. But you know. 5 meo. It's like a rocket ship, and you left the building. So you are in source energy. And so everything that you identify with being human in this realm
00:56:25.190 --> 00:56:26.560 Melanie Waterfall: drops away.
00:56:26.740 --> 00:56:33.670 Melanie Waterfall: You have no body, you have no name, you have no gender, you have no judgment, you have no emotion, you just are.
00:56:33.850 --> 00:56:51.940 Melanie Waterfall: and it's a beautiful awareness. But as soon as you come to that awareness of like, Oh, I just am. Now you're back in your body and your egos back online. So it can be a lot of downloads. And it's not an overly visual experience. It can be very somatic.
00:56:51.990 --> 00:56:55.660 Melanie Waterfall: It's different for everybody. II say that you know
00:56:55.830 --> 00:57:24.550 Melanie Waterfall: to my clients as many people as exist in this realm. That's how many experiences we can have. It can be dense. It can be. the most incredible, unconditional love of the universe that you've ever felt, which you know, I think is really a beautiful opportunity to feel all of it. Because as humans, we are here for the whole human experience. Right? So the so it's about understanding and and allowing that
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:30.240 Melanie Waterfall: anytime there's a resistance to this molecule, or or the
00:57:30.380 --> 00:57:36.810 Melanie Waterfall: when one is trying to control it. This is where we come into some turbulence, and it becomes a little bit more
00:57:37.020 --> 00:57:45.219 Melanie Waterfall: challenging to navigate, but letting go of our attachment to the outcome invites so much more.
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:49.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, III always find that people who
00:57:50.140 --> 00:58:01.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: have less resistance to just the medicines in general. Whatever medicine is, they're working with the smoother the journey is, and the more resistance there is the bumpier the ride is.
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:05.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's true for this molecule as well.
00:58:05.660 --> 00:58:19.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Melanie. III wish I could have you on for 2, 3 h at a time, but unfortunately it did. We're at the end of the show. If if people want to learn more about you, learn about your services, get in touch with you, how would they do that?
00:58:20.640 --> 00:58:33.270 Melanie Waterfall: Please find me on my website at Divine Light integration.com. You can also send me a friend request reach out to me. Do you send me a message on Facebook? If you wanna connect
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:42.200 Melanie Waterfall: just at Melanie Waterfall, or I have a little. You know, Facebook page of divine light integration as well, or Instagram at divine light integration as well.
00:58:42.210 --> 00:59:02.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Alright, divine light integration wherever you can find it. Melanie, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to come on my show. It's been a pleasure having you, and I wish you a wonderful wonderful presentation at the Plant Spirit Medicine Conference, and and I wish you a lot of success in in your journeys.
00:59:02.090 --> 00:59:31.289 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm, thank you, Sam. Thank you for having me, and allowing me to share this beautiful medicine, my my pleasure, my pleasure, and yes, just a reminder that the show is brought to you by the spirit www. Dot, spirit, plant, medicinecom and use the code save the world. All lower case, all one word to get 10 off a ticket. They they do have a streaming option. So if you're not in Vancouver and you can't make it, you can also stream the the conference as well.
00:59:31.470 --> 00:59:53.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So thank you all for tuning in as always. If you missed any part of today's show, you can always catch the replay on talk radio, Nyc, and of course we're on all the major podcasting platforms. So if you you don't see the conscious consult now, or just let me know, we'll make sure we're there. But we're in all the biggies, and thank you all for tuning in, and we will talk to you all next week. Take care.