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Facebook Live Video from 2023/01/06 - Discovery Over Dieting in 2023

Facebook Live Video from 2023/01/06 - Discovery Over Dieting in 2023


2023/01/06 - Discovery Over Dieting in 2023

[NEW EPISODE] Discovery Over Dieting in 2023

Fridays 11:00am - 12:00pm (EDT)       



The audience will hear from a professional who can lead a personalized journey from burnout to balance and teach you real, sustainable strategies designed to improve your overall health.  With 10 easy steps, she will help rewire the brain to simplify your approach to nutrition.



It is officially a new year, a time referred to as diet season.  Every January, people around the country get geared up for their “new year, new you” diet resolutions.  They jump on the latest trends and often last just a few weeks before resuming old habits.


Nutrition advice is often complicated, misunderstood, and not sustainable.  As a result, millions suffer with their relationship with food, body, and self. 


Fatigue, anxiety, depression, headaches, an all-or-nothing food mentality, constant hunger and persistent thoughts of food and body, the binge-restrict cycle, shame and guilt.  When it comes to food, do you have similar feelings/experiences?  This is no way to live your life. 


We are joined by Lauren Dorman, Registered Dietitian and Certified Diabetes Educator with Don't Diet Dietitian LLC.  Lauren has helped thousands of clients understand the truth about nutrition, shift their mindset, and feel better about themselves.


Tune in for this sensible conversation at

Show Notes

Segment 1

Steven wishes fellow TalkRadio host, Tommy D a happy birthday before getting things started and also speaks about what he did over the holidays like skiing, being with family, and lots of food and drinking in Vermont. This segues into the topic today about dieting and the new year as it is known as dieting season. He introduces his guest, Lauren Dorman. Lauren is a Registered Dietitian and Certified Diabetes Educator with Don't Diet Dietitian LLC. Lauren has helped thousands of clients understand the truth about nutrition, shift their mindset, and feel better about themselves. When Lauren was 11 years old, she knew that she wanted to be a part of the nutrition world and become a dietitian. She has always had an interest in food and health by reading magazines like teen magazines about health. She went to college for nutrition and started at a medical center working on different floors dealing with the heart, pediatric, oncology, and more for 4 years. Lauren realized that she was interested in the aspect of diabetes as there are a lot of factors in this disease. She obtained her certified diabetes educator certificate and worked with both adults and children for 15 years. Lauyren talks about how her life changed back in 2018 when she found out that her 2 year old niece was diagnosed with cancer. Her passion for wanting to make people look and feel good led her to create Don’t Diet Dietitian LLC in 2020. She talks about the change of focusing more on the “why” and “how” which helps transform people’s lives.

Segment 2

Steve mentions applying a practical solution to individual situations which may not happen as often. People may tend to go deep into a program, working out, and dieting without proper and professional guidance. Lauren starts by using some examples; when we need a haircut, we go to a hairdresser, not an eye doctor or a podiatrist. If we have food problems, we go to a podiatrist. For eye problems, we go to an eye doctor. But she says that when people need to learn about health and nutrition, they tend to go to google, friends and family, and there can be a lot of misinformation. She also mentions influencers or “wellness influencers” that may also give misinformation. Lauren also discusses the difference between nutritionists and registered dietitians. Registered dietitians have many years of experience and learning from earning their bachelors degree in dietitian and masters degree in nutrition. Nutritionists on the other hand she says is a “self proclaimed title” that isn't a legally regulated term. Dietitians she says won't remove food groups from your diet. She says that she teaches that “all food fits.” Steven and Lauren talk about how the title nutritionists can be easily thrown around. But Lauren says that there are many great coaches out there. She also mentions how mental health, physical, spirituality and more all affect one's health and that focusing on your goals as a journey and process is much better. She discusses some mistakes in this area that people make.

Segment 3

Lauren talks about her experience when first working with her patients. It's important to always check in with your doctors and when concerned about your weight and diet, it's also very important to see someone like Lauren because primary care doctors are not registered dietitians. She says that what society and healthcare professionals do is trying to impact and help others but unintentionally they may be doing harm. She calls this “yo-yo dieting”. She says this increases the risks of heart disease. For example, doctors may tend to focus on weight loss and not focusing on health behaviors or habits and strategies. She says that a lot of clients are then ashamed. What Lauren enjoys doing is empowering her clients, educating them, and focusing on this as well as understanding and listening to them. She also mentioned that clients have told her that nutritionists that they have seen have given them advice that have made them have constant hunger, fatigue, or binging developed. Lauren mentions common misinformation that she says are dangerous like to not eat after 7pm. Overall, Lauren says that it is poor advice given, but a lot of it is unintentional because we focus on the “what” instead of “how” and “why”. We have to personalize strategies for every person and their own situations. She also brings up diabetes and shares what she wishes to share with others in understanding it.

Segment 4

Lauren talks with Steven about good-bad food. She shows Steve an orange and then a chocolate bar and asks his thoughts immediately and what most people think about. Most people would probably pick the obvious and say that the orange is healthier. She challenges his thought and says that there is no food that is unhealthy, healthy, good or bad. Instead, we are “neutralizing food”. Labeling food puts it on the pedestal and we will eat one thing more than the other which isn't ideal. With the orange and chocolate, you can eat both items together and add more to it like nuts and cheese. Instead of focusing on food as just “health”, she says to also relate it to social time, movement, hydrations, stress management, honoring your hunger and fullness and making food joyful. Having self compassion and mindfulness with this is very helpful. If you would like guidance from Lauren Dorman, she offers a one on one program and a group program with options of virtual or in person for the one on one option and virtual only for the group program. She offers school workshops and business-wellness workshops. She is also working with the medical health field to empower them to help clients with eating behaviors, body issues and other struggles. Lauren also has a free guide, “10 ways to approach nutrition from a self care standpoint.” You can also find her on Instagram at Don’tDietDietitian. Before closing the show, Steve reads Laurens answers to his fun questions about favorite movie/tv characters, instruments and artists.


00:00:24.460 --> 00:00:37.839 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Well, hello out there, planet Earth and Happy Friday. Happy New Year! It's 2023. We're off to the races. It's Friday, and it's always Friday with me, Stephen Fry your Smb. Guy, I see. Why am I, or in case you missed it?

00:00:37.850 --> 00:00:55.400 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Smb. Stands for small and medium sized business. For the last 20 years I've been a consultant for Smbs, a voice and a sounding board for everyone's business leaders advocating on their behalf, their employees, to, I believe, very strongly in sharing stories, providing perspective and creating connection.

00:00:55.410 --> 00:01:07.630 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So every single Friday you can find me right here on talk radio that Nyc. Doing just that lending what's left of my mind and my voice to this radio show where I interview Smb. Leaders and their trusted advisors.

00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:17.840 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: One thing that I've noticed over the years everyone some of the best thought leadership for Smbs actually happens on Friday, right about the time we feel the freedom of the weekend coming.

00:01:17.850 --> 00:01:30.049 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: However, we're also anxious to start the weekend myself included. I'm no different. These crucial pearls of wisdom. They're often overlooked. They're forgotten in favor of our fun, weekend activities and our freedom from work

00:01:30.060 --> 00:01:47.880 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: here on the show, we take advantage of that weekend freedom and clarity, and we discuss popular topics that are on the minds of business leaders and their advisors once again the name of the show, not just to play on words. My last name means free and German little fun. Fact for you guys to start out 2,023 in case you didn't know that first things first 250.

00:01:47.890 --> 00:01:59.030 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: We need to wish your boy in mind the nonprofit sector connector, Tommy Demisa, Tommy d a very happy birthday. He just wrapped up his show philanthropy and focus right before me.

00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:17.130 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Hell of a guy. Very happy birthday to you, my friend. Hope you enjoy your birthday and the weekend. I hope you guys enjoyed the holidays and the New Year. I sure as hell did. I got to do lots of different things that I enjoy. I went to Vermont with some friends and some special guests from our shows in 2,021 lots of time With the family

00:02:17.140 --> 00:02:35.590 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: went skiing and got my younger daughter on skis for the first time, after some brief hesitation which I had no doubt was gonna happen, I hung with my Buddy Shawn from California, and also special guests from last year, Tom Brewer from T. 2 Green, the indoor Golf Academy for some of those awesome fish concerts at Madison Square Garden.

00:02:35.600 --> 00:02:38.699 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: But what I did feel like I did the most. Everyone was

00:02:38.730 --> 00:02:58.230 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: eat and drink, especially when I was in Vermont with the family. We had brunch. We had coffee fresh from the roasters. I had Chinese food on Christmas. Like a good Jewish boy, I had apple cider donuts, Ben and Jerry's ice cream, a few glasses of Bourbon potentially.

00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:03.420 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: but we capped off the whole trip at this place called the Prohibition Pig.

00:03:03.470 --> 00:03:19.960 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: It's a restaurant serving whole hogs, fresh beer, lots of booze, so beautiful Vermont. Spot. I got this t-shirt from there, and I I thought it was very appropriate for the show here today. Quick! Shout out to Pro Pig, a little excessive. I might have taken it too. Extreme

00:03:20.070 --> 00:03:30.080 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: kind of felt like I ate more like a bear instead of a pig, but very relevant to our topic of discussion today, which is all about discovery over dieting in 2,023.

00:03:30.160 --> 00:03:40.929 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: It's officially, a New Year, a time which is referred to as diet season every January people around the world they get geared up for their New Year New, you types of resolutions.

00:03:41.190 --> 00:03:47.590 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: They jump on the latest trends, and often they last just a few weeks before they resume old habits.

00:03:47.650 --> 00:03:57.750 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Or if you're me, maybe like a few days. I saw this meme about January during the week, and I had to put it up. I thought it was phenomenal by the fourth day, sleeping on the floor instead of working out.

00:03:57.850 --> 00:04:17.240 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: but nutrition advice is often complicated, misunderstood, and simply not sustainable; and as a result, millions of people suffer with their relationship between food, body, and self, fatigue, anxiety, depression, headaches, and all or nothing. Mentality, constant hunger, persistent thoughts of food and body binge restrictions, shame and guilt.

00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:21.150 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: All of these types of thoughts are around food. It's no way to live

00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:50.220 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Well, Our special guest today has helped thousands of clients understand the truth about nutrition, shift their mindset and feel better about themselves. Talk is cheap. We're on talk radio, dot Nyc: we don't want this to just be talk the goal. Once again, let's use the insight we get today and create some more impact on Monday morning. It's far too often. The folks that I work with the SMS. They're focused on the product that's going to solve their problems or for today's purposes. The particular diet program, if you will.

00:04:50.230 --> 00:05:12.419 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: the shiny new Mouse trap, the magic wand is going to solve all their problems all the time. One thing I see out there consistently. Products change every single day and everything. We do no substitute for surrounding yourself with the right people. First keep an eye on the prize by executing a great process that will help you achieve your goals as long as you do that the right products will be there. They change every day everything begins and ends with the people.

00:05:12.430 --> 00:05:19.569 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So in the spirit of surrounding yourself with the right people very excited for our discussion. Today we're chatting with Lauren Dorman

00:05:19.580 --> 00:05:36.080 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: registered Dietitian and certified Diabetes Educator at Don't Dietitian Llc not the easiest name to say but I love the concept. It's beautiful. So Lauren is a nutrition therapist who's had 20 years of experience working alongside children and adults

00:05:36.090 --> 00:05:41.170 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: who struggle with body image and self-esteem, as well as disorder and emotional eating issues.

00:05:41.180 --> 00:05:58.289 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: also a certified diabetes educator after graduating from Penn State University, where she earned a bachelor's degree in nutrition she obtained her masters in nutrition from Ruckers University, Lauren, again the owner of the company through which she offers both individual and group counseling for small medium-sized businesses as well.

00:05:58.430 --> 00:06:06.280 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: In addition to speaking regularly at Webinars conferences and wellness business events she provides, professional development workshops for local schools.

00:06:06.290 --> 00:06:36.280 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: lauren's mission is to improve clients, mental, physical, and emotional, well-being. She believes that everyone deserves to have access to a registered dietitian and expert in nutrition. Science who can help navigate nutrition, misinformation, teach sustainable health habits, and focus on a self-care behavioral or behavioral approach toward healing one's relationship with food mind. And body. I love it she's the best person to speak with about the topic. She's also a friend of my wife, and I grew up with her husband, so we need to make sure this is absolutely

00:06:36.290 --> 00:06:47.799 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: awesome. Today, as you can expect, we're going to discuss my favorite questions. Who's your favorite movie, your TV show character? What's your favorite movie, your TV show. What's your favorite musical instrument and the artist who plays it

00:06:47.880 --> 00:07:01.730 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: joining me from my home turf here in Mammoth County, New Jersey, the Don't Dietitian herself. Lauren, Welcome to the show. Great to have you here. Thank you so much. I'm very excited to be here.

00:07:01.740 --> 00:07:17.279 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So the first time we talked about doing. This was when we were on a food tour. with nice guy Tours with Dante Mercadant, who actually was on the show last year as well, we stuffing our faces, talking about it. But we we always knew this was going to happen, so we're kicking off 2023,

00:07:17.290 --> 00:07:25.559 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: everyone's talking about diet season. I love the idea of discovery before dieting. Tell us a little bit about how you got where you are today.

00:07:25.950 --> 00:07:35.919 Lauren Dorman: Okay, sure. So i'm lucky and fortunate that when I was young I was about 11 years old. I knew that I wanted to be a diet. I didn't know exactly

00:07:36.050 --> 00:07:49.919 Lauren Dorman: what a dietition was at 11 years old, but I knew that I had this interest in food and help by. You know, reading the magazines that were out. Even the team magazines had a lot of information about nutrition and hell

00:07:50.130 --> 00:08:03.969 Lauren Dorman: and I guess I just wanted to make people feel good and be healthy. That's all I really knew in sixth grade. Right? You don't really know that much about applying you know what exactly my life would look like as so

00:08:04.260 --> 00:08:08.639 Lauren Dorman: I did end up going to college for nutrition at Penn State.

00:08:08.880 --> 00:08:13.810 Lauren Dorman: and after Penn state after I graduated I did my internship.

00:08:13.830 --> 00:08:16.419 Lauren Dorman: and I started at Mammoth Medical Center.

00:08:16.760 --> 00:08:30.170 Lauren Dorman: and I did about 4 years on the regular units there, so I would work on the cardiac for the pediatric for the oncology floor, and I just got a really good

00:08:30.190 --> 00:08:32.250 Lauren Dorman: baseline knowledge of

00:08:32.510 --> 00:08:37.799 Lauren Dorman: nutrition therapy for every disease state that's out there. And

00:08:38.289 --> 00:08:41.739 Lauren Dorman: then I realize I want to specialize in something.

00:08:42.220 --> 00:08:43.460 Lauren Dorman: And

00:08:43.789 --> 00:08:46.340 Lauren Dorman: what I realized is I liked

00:08:46.420 --> 00:08:49.439 Lauren Dorman: the aspect of diabetes because

00:08:49.920 --> 00:08:58.190 Lauren Dorman: diabetes is not just about nutrition. There's a whole component. And there's a lot that that lot of factors that affect lunch under control.

00:08:58.300 --> 00:08:59.450 Lauren Dorman: So

00:08:59.880 --> 00:09:07.910 Lauren Dorman: when I I wet, and i' my certified diabetes educator certificate, and then I moved into the diabetes center.

00:09:08.220 --> 00:09:14.769 Lauren Dorman: I worked with a pediatric endocrinologist, and so I work with both adults and children with diabetes.

00:09:15.180 --> 00:09:16.610 Lauren Dorman: So

00:09:16.770 --> 00:09:19.400 Lauren Dorman: fast forward I did that for about

00:09:19.590 --> 00:09:21.900 Lauren Dorman: 15 years, and

00:09:22.220 --> 00:09:24.239 Lauren Dorman: that's forward to

00:09:24.530 --> 00:09:27.250 Lauren Dorman: September 2,018.

00:09:28.270 --> 00:09:35.039 Lauren Dorman: My sister called me, and she told me that my niece has cancer. My little two-year-old niece

00:09:35.500 --> 00:09:37.089 Lauren Dorman: has neurobastoma.

00:09:37.860 --> 00:09:41.060 Lauren Dorman: and from that point on my life changed

00:09:41.210 --> 00:09:42.979 Lauren Dorman: and I realized that

00:09:43.160 --> 00:09:46.329 Lauren Dorman: health wasn't guaranteed in this one life that we have.

00:09:46.770 --> 00:09:47.650 Lauren Dorman: and

00:09:47.680 --> 00:09:55.589 Lauren Dorman: my career have like it. It just didn't feel aligned to me anymore. I knew that there was like this

00:09:55.730 --> 00:10:09.439 Lauren Dorman: like this passion. I need to do a little bit more with healing and making people feel good. So I wanted to more inspire and impact people in this one life that we have.

00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.260 Lauren Dorman: So that's pretty much

00:10:12.070 --> 00:10:18.189 Lauren Dorman: where Don't Dietitian came from in 20 October 2020

00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:21.949 Lauren Dorman: I started the company, and

00:10:21.990 --> 00:10:28.849 Lauren Dorman: really I didn't realize how how good clients could feel on the emotional physical.

00:10:28.980 --> 00:10:30.440 Lauren Dorman: And

00:10:30.590 --> 00:10:42.820 Lauren Dorman: you know, mental level of everything, because I never did that. When I was dietician at the hospital I focus more on the what, not the why and how

00:10:44.030 --> 00:10:50.619 Lauren Dorman: well put for sure

00:10:50.870 --> 00:10:59.780 Lauren Dorman: companies and more therapists and schools. So I want to impact on a really large level as well as the one on one client.

00:11:00.370 --> 00:11:01.920 Lauren Dorman: because I think those group

00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:05.200 Lauren Dorman: programs and the wellness workshops

00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.359 Lauren Dorman: they do transform people. If they really implement some of the strategies. Right now

00:11:09.930 --> 00:11:19.039 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: we we share a lot of similar thought, and i'm happy to hear that you'd like to make a large-scale impact. When I started the show September of 2020, right before you started the company

00:11:19.580 --> 00:11:30.229 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: from weekend insight to Monday impact was always the idea. So we're going to talk about some, some great thoughts here today, and really make some good, you know, memorable content that people really need to take something away with. But

00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:48.719 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: you know this this topic is so prevalent this time of year. Everybody wants to, you know. They they join the gym. They go once they never go again. They They try to eat better for 5 min, like I I said it ready. It's like i'm not dieting yet, like I like I I love food. I'm an animal i'm a carnivore lately. I'm just coming off of a great time in Vermont, eating all this stuff, but

00:11:48.760 --> 00:12:02.849 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: I do need to moderate a little bit, and I need to make some better habits and a lot of times. That's more of what I find it to be about. But in order to really make some good habits. That, and, you know, be responsive and have a good conditioned system for yourself.

00:12:03.050 --> 00:12:19.149 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: I I do find that you need somebody to really help you along with that, and you know, and that's you know a lot of what we're going to talk about today, and i'm very excited about it. But I just. I want to see if you feel this way. I can't shake the feeling that a lot of the the diet programs, and and you know, types of

00:12:19.500 --> 00:12:29.360 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: supplements and things that people take are just. It's just a straight up kind of product pushing discussion. It's not a magic wand, and a lot of people will put ultimate blind faith into it. Do you see that?

00:12:29.640 --> 00:12:31.070 Lauren Dorman: Oh, yes.

00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.719 Lauren Dorman: all the time? So i'm not crazy all the time. It's a sliding scale. But

00:12:35.850 --> 00:12:44.829 Lauren Dorman: that's why I have my job right because of the all of the nutrition misconceptions in the world, and I have to help people navigate that

00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:46.040 Lauren Dorman: right?

00:12:46.280 --> 00:12:54.140 Lauren Dorman: So registered dieticians are the food experts, and we translate that nutrition science

00:12:54.230 --> 00:12:57.090 Lauren Dorman: into practical solutions

00:12:57.940 --> 00:13:06.780 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: like I like that, thought a lot, translating the science into practical solutions, because, you know, it might not be the easiest thing in the world to explain all of your training and what not to people. But

00:13:06.850 --> 00:13:12.130 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: you know, when you kind of have practical application and give people a story of this is how you should look at things.

00:13:12.420 --> 00:13:22.880 Lauren Dorman: It's. It's a lot easier to digest no pun intended. Yeah, I mean, I debunk myths. And I, you know, debunk things about weight and health. I actually have this

00:13:22.980 --> 00:13:25.050 Lauren Dorman: nutrition, myth busting.

00:13:25.090 --> 00:13:29.040 Lauren Dorman: and we go through that because

00:13:29.060 --> 00:13:31.869 Lauren Dorman: society doesn't teach help the right way.

00:13:31.880 --> 00:13:53.149 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: It's it's a little different than my turning point Mug, which is another spot for me to just stuff myself with brunch, which quick shout out to my one of my best friends, Matt Alkon, who, one of the owners of turning point, but actually sent me this picture this morning on location from one of his restaurants. So not necessarily about better foods, but better habits. And we're going to talk all about it with Lauren Dorman. We come back from this break

00:13:53.160 --> 00:13:57.430 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: with Lauren Dorman, the Don't Dietitian. Stay with us.

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00:16:13.590 --> 00:16:18.119 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: welcome back everybody. It's Friday. It's always Friday. It's 2,023,

00:16:18.250 --> 00:16:35.049 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: and it's me Stephen Fry, your Smb guy we're chatting with Lauren dorman from Don't Dietitian, Llc. Registered Dietitian certified diabetes. Educator. Some great stuff from Lauren here right off the bat very excited to have the rest of the conversation with you, my friend.

00:16:35.060 --> 00:16:49.329 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So, before we get into the method behind Lauren's madness, I just want to sit out by my fire pit, which actually been kind of warm out here as of late, considering it's January. But just to give some quick perspective, you know, we were talking just now in the in the first segment here about.

00:16:49.340 --> 00:16:58.500 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: you know, taking your training as a registered Dietitian, you know, looking at each respective situation and applying a practical solution to it. Great process

00:16:58.510 --> 00:17:09.490 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: a lot of times. That's not what people are doing. They're going, you know. Hardcore out, you know. Joining the gym. Go once or twice, try to over exercise for a little bit, and then completely could put.

00:17:09.530 --> 00:17:24.580 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: They'll go to some particular diet product that has its own food, its own app, its own tracking system, its own whatever, and they're completely focused on that. And yet they they don't really have the necessary guidance from somebody like yourself. I mean, I've I've used this analogy a number of times.

00:17:24.730 --> 00:17:42.259 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: We have so much access to information out there that it's very tempting for people to go online and find a map and a compass through the wilderness, when in reality what you need is a guide through the wilderness. If you really want to take a journey and become a healthier you, and create better habits.

00:17:42.270 --> 00:17:46.559 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: which I really do, because I have a lot of habits that could be considered unhealthy.

00:17:46.570 --> 00:18:10.009 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: But I also like to have a good time, but it's, you know, everything in moderation, and and food is no different. There's no such thing as bad food. There might be such things as bad diet programs where people try to cram a certain product and and methodology down your throat. But I think that's what we're here to talk about, really some of the misinformation and myths that get debunked, you know, in the act of trying to discover, instead of just cramming into a diet. So, Lauren.

00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:28.679 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: this is the method part of the show, the science behind what you do. Obviously we're not going to train everyone to be dietitians like yourself with your type of experience. But the idea of you know, what does a registered Dietitian do? And how does it differ from some of the other folks out there. But also, how do they go about, You know, getting people into the practical solutions?

00:18:28.690 --> 00:18:36.640 Lauren Dorman: Lay it on us. Give us a little bit of the method behind the madness. Okay? So I like to explain this, and I have a post about this on my Instagram account.

00:18:36.750 --> 00:18:55.589 Lauren Dorman: if we need a haircut. We go to a here. Yes, sir, we don't go to my doctor, or we don't go to a dietr that we need to hear about correct. If we have book problems, go to right. If we have an eye issue or need our, I check up and go to the you know the.

00:18:55.900 --> 00:19:00.580 Lauren Dorman: But what do people do when they need to learn about helping the person

00:19:00.900 --> 00:19:03.069 Lauren Dorman: right? They go to Google.

00:19:03.130 --> 00:19:08.860 Lauren Dorman: They go to friends and family. They go to

00:19:08.990 --> 00:19:32.590 Lauren Dorman: I don't know. I mean they. They just learn a lot of misinformation on social media right because there's so many wellness influencers, or they turn to their own emotions like Here, here's a picture that got snapped of me when I was stuffing my face with Chinese food. It's like oh, he didn't like his. He didn't like the choices he made, like, you know, they they just get wrapped up in the feeling, and they go really aggressive towards it. But I wish that

00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.349 Lauren Dorman: in in a perfect world, right Lawrence's perfect world, like

00:19:36.530 --> 00:19:48.039 Lauren Dorman: everyone who would have access to a registered dietition at least once every year. That would be a beautiful thing, and that's why I'm doing what i'm doing. So I want people to have more access to the real.

00:19:48.410 --> 00:19:55.189 Lauren Dorman: the real truth behind it all, because I want to discuss the difference between nutritionist and registration right now.

00:19:55.260 --> 00:20:07.139 Lauren Dorman: And I think so many people have told me like more and more people need to know the difference between that. So, First of all a rest. Your Dietitian needs to get their bachelors and nutrition.

00:20:07.300 --> 00:20:10.830 Lauren Dorman: and most actually do have their masters in nutrition, which I do.

00:20:11.530 --> 00:20:15.850 Lauren Dorman: Then they need to go on an incomplete 1,200 h. Internship

00:20:16.100 --> 00:20:18.090 Lauren Dorman: has a national exam.

00:20:18.370 --> 00:20:24.139 Lauren Dorman: and continue and maintain their continue education credits every 5 years.

00:20:24.360 --> 00:20:31.229 Lauren Dorman: Okay, nutritionist is a self proclaimed title. That is not a legally regulated term.

00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:36.220 Lauren Dorman: And so, Steve, you could say right now i'm a New Jersey this board

00:20:36.340 --> 00:20:57.310 Lauren Dorman: I'll I'll design a hell of a nutrition program for you, so anybody can call themselves a nutritionist. There's no education required, and believe it or not, a lot of these bonus influences are going to steal joy away from you, removing gluten and sugar, and you know everything that you that you can get joy from out of your life, and dietitions will not remove

00:20:57.320 --> 00:20:58.610 Lauren Dorman: food groups.

00:20:58.830 --> 00:21:00.080 Lauren Dorman: All foods fit.

00:21:01.610 --> 00:21:06.350 Lauren Dorman: That's what we we teach. Yeah, and our bodies are not.

00:21:06.770 --> 00:21:25.410 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So I just a quick side piece, because I want you to continue with what? Where you're going with this. But are aren't there? I I've I've been exposed to this with even some previous guests I've had on from integrative health and wellness practices aren't. There some tests that can actually show by by blood what some food sensitivities are Not allergies.

00:21:25.420 --> 00:21:27.949 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: but potential sensitivities.

00:21:28.990 --> 00:21:42.650 Lauren Dorman: Possibly. But I like to. I like to have clients learn what foods they feel best with, and what who don't make them feel their best. I mean, they learn from

00:21:42.780 --> 00:21:47.509 Lauren Dorman: a test done that certain foods do cause sensitivity.

00:21:48.660 --> 00:21:54.149 Lauren Dorman: They could see if, when they eat those how they feel. But

00:21:54.540 --> 00:21:56.229 Lauren Dorman: you know I I

00:21:56.410 --> 00:22:14.739 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: I I I agree with you, though the educational piece is is really where the power is, and having it once again. Somebody like you to guide people. Everybody's on their own respective journey. Bodies are different shapes and sizes. They take in things differently, which you know is a lot of the point of some of those blood tests showing sensitivities.

00:22:14.750 --> 00:22:32.510 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: But you know, going back to really custom, you know, figuring out what what a particular person is all about, and how they need things translated to them for it to really work is important, and I I definitely see people who are for self-promoted life coaches and all of that absolutely to promote yourself as a nutritionist.

00:22:32.520 --> 00:22:42.099 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: I could see people doing that without any formal training, and some of life Coaches are great, I mean. But when it comes to the actual nutrition information. If it's not

00:22:42.370 --> 00:22:43.199 Lauren Dorman: if it's not

00:22:43.300 --> 00:22:55.950 Lauren Dorman: it doesn't seem sustainable to you. That's a huge word, sustainable, realistic. If you could think like, you know what I could do this for the rest of my life. Most people have blinders on, and they're just like focused on just the here and now, and

00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:06.160 Lauren Dorman: we want you to be focused on problem solving to, you know. Understand? Like that, there are barriers to some behavior changes, and it's not just all about

00:23:06.300 --> 00:23:12.370 Lauren Dorman: It's about mental, physical, spiritual, social like that makes up our health.

00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:17.499 Lauren Dorman: So I don't like a lot of things that people think they know about. Food is actually very wrong.

00:23:17.750 --> 00:23:22.950 Lauren Dorman: And this isn't a linear process. This is a journey.

00:23:23.170 --> 00:23:31.880 Lauren Dorman: And and you know, when you focus more on the process and the journey, and you focus less on an outcome. You actually do take care of your help better

00:23:33.470 --> 00:23:40.830 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: like, you know, we get to the mental health part of the discussion. One of my cousins completely cut pizza out of his diet straight up. That's never going to happen for me.

00:23:42.110 --> 00:23:55.280 Lauren Dorman: No. And when you put food on a pedestal. You see, food is a biological right. It's a basic physiological need that we all have right. We need sleep, we need shelter. We need warm. We need water.

00:23:55.730 --> 00:24:02.019 Lauren Dorman: We need food. And when we think of food on this high pedestal we typically end up binging

00:24:02.340 --> 00:24:12.059 Lauren Dorman: binge. Eating disorder right now is actually the highest rate. High speeding disorder, greater than anorexia and bulimia combined. In. In in the United States

00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:23.530 Lauren Dorman: about 30 million people are struggling with meeting disorders, and a lot of people think that it's normal because it's because disordered eating is normalized, but it's not normal.

00:24:24.530 --> 00:24:27.269 Lauren Dorman: The diets are disordered eating.

00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:37.129 Lauren Dorman: If you're not feeling, you know, if if you're feeling irritable and anxious and tired, and you have constant thoughts of food and body that's not help, that's for now

00:24:38.040 --> 00:24:44.069 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: you know it's again like I can't help but get away from the idea that you know food is a product, and

00:24:44.160 --> 00:25:03.719 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: you know, instead of looking at it, you put it you like just like you said you put it on a pedestal. It might actually make some issues happen, whereas you look at yourself. You look at a good process with a trained professional. You're likely to end up where you want to be, and that's there's almost no way to buy that as a suit off the rack. It has to be a custom tailored suit.

00:25:04.020 --> 00:25:22.189 Lauren Dorman: Yeah, and your body is actually so much smarter than a diet. The diet industry, if you want to know one huge secret, I mean. Some people know this, but it's that the diet industry wants to fail because they want to keep making money. It's a 78 billion dollars industry that's focused on insecurities

00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:27.259 Lauren Dorman: and focused on the thin ideal that you know 90% of people cannot see

00:25:27.500 --> 00:25:45.940 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: It might be a stretch to say that my body is smarter than a diet, especially if you have a steady diet of insanity. But I I completely agree with you, and that's again. Everybody's body is different. And that's another thing like you know. Looking at the product, the outcome, the shallowness of certain things sometimes where everything's about an image.

00:25:45.950 --> 00:25:50.210 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: You know everyone's trying to do something, so they get a particular image of themselves

00:25:50.290 --> 00:26:02.939 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: where everybody has their own type of image that they could portray to themselves and to the rest of the world. So, especially when it comes to how your body processes food, and how you actually at you actually get nourished like.

00:26:03.120 --> 00:26:13.380 Lauren Dorman: Why wouldn't that be the same kind of discussion?

00:26:13.580 --> 00:26:15.810 Lauren Dorman: Right? It's gonna cause short term

00:26:15.930 --> 00:26:34.230 Lauren Dorman: weight loss. But then future waking increased. Hunger hormones decreased, metabolism increased. Fat storage. because the diet you never fail to diet your biology and your body is smart. It doesn't want to be. If you're on a standard island and you have no food.

00:26:34.340 --> 00:26:48.460 Lauren Dorman: you know all this low calorie nonsense that's out there, and people are just walking around with, you know, food, obsession, thoughts, and fatigue, and actually a lot of built and shame as well around food.

00:26:48.750 --> 00:26:59.439 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: I mean. I'm a foodie. I love food. I'm a food enthusiast. But you know, when it gets to be like especially Activity-wise, like every thought that people have is about their next meal

00:26:59.450 --> 00:27:16.089 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: starts to drive me crazy a little bit, and it's, you know. I feel like, you know, from our hometown we've been surrounded by it plenty pretty much all of our lives and some great food around here. Don't get me wrong. I can't. I can't think about not having the food in Central Jersey here, but it's a You can't put it on a pedestal like you have to figure out what's going to work best for you.

00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:31.099 Lauren Dorman: And would you focus on how you feel physically feel, and you tune into your satisfaction level and fullness, which is something that society doesn't teach, and I don't teach that people walk away on their plate and their surprise, because they're actually

00:27:31.340 --> 00:27:45.200 Lauren Dorman: having this self awareness of their body. So, like you went on this vacation, and you had all this food, and you enjoyed it, and you were joyful. But did you tune into your body's satisfaction, and did you eat past fullness?

00:27:45.750 --> 00:28:05.639 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: maybe once or twice, Yes, but we'll talk. We'll talk a little bit more about that in the next segment, because it is about about the madness. And You know there is definitely some mental health aspects to this which we're going to. We're going to touch on as well, but we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back with Lauren Doorman, the Don't Diet Dietitian. Stay with us.

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00:30:08.590 --> 00:30:15.990 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: welcome back to always Friday, with me, Stephen Fry your Smb. Guy. Not just me, though we're chatting with Lauren dorman

00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:29.670 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: don't Dietitian llc registered Dietitian and certified diabetes educator lauren this is the madness, part of the show, the artistic observational views that you have, the stories you have from the field.

00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:45.490 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: No subject to taboo anything goes. I just wanted to throw a couple things out there real quick, You know you started your career you were talking about really focused on the diabetes side of things. It's a very sensitive topic in our household. My father-in-law passed away from a massive diabetic heart attack just about 10 years ago.

00:30:45.530 --> 00:30:47.219 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: at the age of 60.

00:30:47.310 --> 00:31:00.830 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: You know it's something where it's definitely, very controllable for people some people have, have, you know, crazier issues than others, but you know overall didn't take care of himself. Wasn't really the best patient, you know. Lots of topics of discussion around that. But

00:31:00.870 --> 00:31:24.690 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: you know the a couple of pictures and things from some of your colleagues in the industry as well as things that you passed around really struck me. Things like the the Last Supper type of diet cycle that people go through. You know one thing that you'd spoke about before, you know not everybody's body size is the same. There is so much madness to discuss around this topic. You know people really having that image of themselves. They have to be the perfect, the perfect 10 type of model, like

00:31:24.700 --> 00:31:43.929 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: not everybody's body that works that way. It Hasn't, since the beginning of time, like, you know, you talk about we we were just talking about this the other day, like all the different art and sculptures and statues in Europe. It's like, do they all look like they have the same exact, perfect body type? No; but yet These are just some of the examples of madness that surrounds this entire topic.

00:31:43.940 --> 00:31:52.070 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So we know that there's a lot of madness here, Lauren. We got to hear some of it straight from the horse's mouth. Talk to us a little bit about some of the stories from your travels.

00:31:52.270 --> 00:31:58.900 Lauren Dorman: Sure. So a lot of my story started what you know. Their doctor refers them to me right usually.

00:31:58.910 --> 00:32:13.889 Lauren Dorman: or it's a friend that's referring, or it's a therapist, and they're telling me a lot of the times. stories from the medical system, right like their doctors, and you know all respect for doctors with, you know. But doctors are not registered with diet, and

00:32:14.020 --> 00:32:19.949 Lauren Dorman: doctors live in. We all live in diet culture. It's a weak-centric system. And

00:32:20.520 --> 00:32:27.080 Lauren Dorman: What, doctor, what what health care! Professionals in general and society does is

00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:28.950 Lauren Dorman: probably

00:32:29.850 --> 00:32:49.439 Lauren Dorman: this yo-yo effective dieting right? Like they're trying to impact and help the person like. But unintentionally they are actually doing hard because their advice is not sustainable or realistic. I talked about before, and yo dieting increases the risk of heart disease.

00:32:49.540 --> 00:32:59.449 Lauren Dorman: So when a doctor is just focused on weight, loss, and Isn't explaining health behaviors or habits. You know some simple strategies like how I approach my clients.

00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:13.639 Lauren Dorman: A lot of clients are shame from health, care, professionals, and that shame, and actually their studies that prove that you know, telling someone you're going to die unless you do something doesn't necessarily help them to

00:33:14.530 --> 00:33:18.900 Lauren Dorman: improve that goal, or do what they're supposed to do. I mean, empowerment

00:33:19.450 --> 00:33:28.769 Lauren Dorman: is where I come in right, and I am power. I don't shame, and I sit with you, and I don't judge you, and I understand. And I listen. So.

00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.340 Lauren Dorman: yeah, a lot of this comes in, and then there's clients that have told me that

00:33:34.360 --> 00:33:42.240 Lauren Dorman: their nutritionists that they went to before has given them advice that need them. Have, you know, constant hunger and

00:33:42.280 --> 00:33:45.989 Lauren Dorman: fatigue and bingeing developed and

00:33:46.020 --> 00:33:50.669 Lauren Dorman: image, and just walking around angry even for sleep.

00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:55.580 Lauren Dorman: And this is advice for nutritionists. You know, certain advice that I

00:33:55.650 --> 00:34:07.200 Lauren Dorman: you can think of it's very harmful. Is don't need after 7 o'clock. There's actually some clients who help teachers told them that advice, and that's not

00:34:07.610 --> 00:34:12.509 Lauren Dorman: That's not based on science.

00:34:12.610 --> 00:34:22.730 Lauren Dorman: That's okay. I mean, if you're eating, if you're physically not feeling good and you're not hungry, I mean, that's a different. That's different. But you know we go through all that. And so

00:34:23.489 --> 00:34:25.209 Lauren Dorman: it's a lot of

00:34:25.230 --> 00:34:27.969 Lauren Dorman: advice. But again, unintentional.

00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:34.089 Lauren Dorman: the people just don't understand it, because all that advice is the what, the what, not the how and why again.

00:34:34.250 --> 00:34:42.269 Lauren Dorman: and we have to focus individually and personalize everyone. Not everybody can fit into this one size fits all

00:34:42.290 --> 00:34:43.100 Lauren Dorman: right.

00:34:43.139 --> 00:34:45.960 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: 100%. I mean education.

00:34:46.290 --> 00:34:56.540 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: It's funny because I I think about this all the time. My dad's a retired teacher with the New York City Board of Education, and never wanted to be a teacher. My My mother-in-law, is a retired teacher, from Perth Amboy, New Jersey.

00:34:56.560 --> 00:35:04.000 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: But yet. There's a lot of what I do and what you do, and what a lot of a lot of folks do, especially folks I've interviewed on the show

00:35:04.040 --> 00:35:19.169 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: that really does revolve around education. The education leads to engagement of services, or, you know, consultative advice and thoughts, and that leads to the empowerment of people to really kind of be them their best selves. And yet, when you talk about

00:35:19.180 --> 00:35:30.240 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: people say, hey, if you don't do this, you're gonna die like If you don't do this, you're gonna be in a lot of trouble when you're talking about any product or service, or that's that's out there. A lot of people will try to

00:35:30.330 --> 00:35:40.029 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: scare you what you know whether your business or a personal and you know individual approach. They'll scare you into doing something. Yeah, and I just it. It bugs me all the time.

00:35:40.560 --> 00:35:54.850 Lauren Dorman: Well, and a lot of people have that mean, harsh, inner critic right? Imagine if you had a best friend that you kept selling that best friend every day. How horrible your body looked, and how you should be doing this! We should be doing that, I mean you have a pretty.

00:35:54.860 --> 00:36:11.299 Lauren Dorman: You wouldn't have a good relationship with that friend, you know. You're not gonna have a good relationship with yourself to take care of yourself from the self-care framework. you're not gonna have confidence or self esteem to put forth intentions for your help.

00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:23.150 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So so you talked about about that potential friend who might be like, you know, talking about body type all the time. Yet you have these 10 principles of intuitive eating going on, and one of them that I saw was

00:36:23.160 --> 00:36:38.940 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: kind of talked about curtail and getting rid of the but the Food Police. I definitely definitely challenge the Food police. I know definitely some folks that'll that'll look at. You know their spouses at the table and be like, Are you really having that other cookie? Are you having that extra piece of bread like

00:36:39.690 --> 00:36:51.600 Lauren Dorman: not really productive.

00:36:51.800 --> 00:37:05.889 Lauren Dorman: It's not it. It's a shame. It's a shame spiral, and it's like you're commenting on my body. You're commenting on my food choices, and then the brain kind of goes to. Well, now, I want more to kind of cope With that a moment of feeling that

00:37:06.020 --> 00:37:07.759 Lauren Dorman: that shame or that

00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:11.260 Lauren Dorman: failure, you know. but I

00:37:11.310 --> 00:37:21.720 Lauren Dorman: I don't cover, and I get to like the underlying like I stitch. I don't mandate. The world is banding right? We talked about that with the fish long before we go.

00:37:21.730 --> 00:37:39.189 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So yeah, can you say what the piston? Yeah, yes, I can, and I I I definitely referenced it on the show before. But the song sand that fish sings says you know, along the way, if you can heal the symptoms, but not affect the cause. It's quite a bit like trying to heal a gunshot room with gauze.

00:37:39.930 --> 00:37:48.970 Lauren Dorman: Yes, and diets won't fix the problems from your Pr. Like a each side. Isn't going to fix the problem. It's going to make things worse.

00:37:49.690 --> 00:37:57.479 Lauren Dorman: See? Who would have thought you could get some wisdom from a fish show at the garden, You know.

00:37:57.500 --> 00:38:10.820 Lauren Dorman: You know a lot of people feel very uncomfortable talking about their relationship with food. It's kind of a a hidden, you know. Shameful thing. I want to talk a little bit about diabetes, though. That's okay, because you can bring that up. And

00:38:11.230 --> 00:38:12.399 Lauren Dorman: many.

00:38:12.430 --> 00:38:18.150 Lauren Dorman: This is really important. And I actually want to devise a course or a program

00:38:18.590 --> 00:38:24.049 Lauren Dorman: that can get out there to help more people with diabetes that actually says.

00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:29.819 Lauren Dorman: Learn how to control your diabetes by adding carbohydrates, because

00:38:29.860 --> 00:38:41.879 Lauren Dorman: the misinformation out there is less parts left, Mars low cards, and that's actually super harmful, because our bodies need to be out of carbs every day just to function.

00:38:42.010 --> 00:38:45.629 Lauren Dorman: And I I want some of your listeners to think about their

00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:58.810 Lauren Dorman: like like if they're irritable or they're anxious. If they feel some depressive symptoms. lack energy. If any of that is kind of a theme in your life. You might want to take a look at

00:38:58.940 --> 00:39:15.980 Lauren Dorman: your nutrition and see if you're eating out of the carbohydrates just because you have diabetes doesn't mean you need to restrict cards that is, will your sugars get lower from restricting parts? It may or may not, but the the reality is that the biology of your body

00:39:16.180 --> 00:39:19.180 Lauren Dorman: and every single organ in your brain need

00:39:19.570 --> 00:39:21.319 It's a function every day.

00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:38.209 Lauren Dorman: right? And it's just about how you balance your meals and your snacks, which I, you know, have visuals and meal planners, and all that, but in a very flexible way that works with that person's

00:39:38.930 --> 00:39:55.949 Lauren Dorman: I helped improve a one, C levels. I don't know if you're familiar with that level. Yeah. So you know, some people start it between a 9 and a 13, which is an average number of 1, 90 to 300, let's say, and they improve all the way to 7, 6 to 7,

00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:05.770 Lauren Dorman: with adding cards with having them balance with eating throughout the day regularly, because, you see, when you skip meals as well your liver over, release the sugar in your body.

00:40:07.410 --> 00:40:14.550 Lauren Dorman: So if someone's only eating 2 meals a day, and they have diabetes. That's not help it's not going to help your blood sugar levels, improve.

00:40:15.680 --> 00:40:30.470 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: and and while certain things out there. You talk about like diet, trends and all that. Well, they might have an an interesting process about them. A keto comes to mind a lot like for me. It's like people go crazy hardcore on Keto, and they'll They'll eliminate every single carbohydrate from their lives.

00:40:30.640 --> 00:40:36.140 Lauren Dorman: and if somebody feels great mentally physically and mostly, and they're doing heeto.

00:40:36.170 --> 00:40:42.090 Lauren Dorman: That's what you it's rare. But I don't. You know I don't have involved with that. If that you know everyone

00:40:42.220 --> 00:40:43.299 Lauren Dorman: everyone

00:40:43.640 --> 00:40:52.680 Lauren Dorman: eating habits if it works for them in their life, and they feel good, and they don't have this hyper focus, or the stress or anxiety over root every day.

00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:59.510 Lauren Dorman: Then that's okay. But if if they're following Keto or they're following an intermittent fasting.

00:40:59.610 --> 00:41:15.600 Lauren Dorman: and they're having these 4 mental health effects, and I've seen these clients like we said the stories I've seen, You know women who have really bad gi issues and hair loss and fatigue and anxiety from intermittent fasting. And Keto

00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.239 Lauren Dorman: are there people that don't have those centers? I'm sure. But i'm seeing the people that have

00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:40.859 Lauren Dorman: the really poor health effects from from those science. And then i'm coming in, and i'm giving them a self care framework. And they're feeling their gi systems improving. They have less headaches. They have more energy. They they understand the right balance of food. They have more self compassion. So it's just a beautiful thing to see. But they're finally healing.

00:41:41.500 --> 00:41:58.799 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Yeah, and I mean just straight off the bat like, and diabetes Sensitive topic around our house is something we take seriously. But you talk about a one, C levels like if people like to eat as much as I do, i'm definitely an animal going out to dinner later, you know. But but they eat as much as I do. They have the potential at at around this age of

00:41:58.810 --> 00:42:03.369 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: their a one, C level might be more elevated, and they become rediabetic.

00:42:03.750 --> 00:42:05.410 Right?

00:42:05.710 --> 00:42:06.720 Lauren Dorman: Yes.

00:42:07.110 --> 00:42:13.359 Lauren Dorman: exactly so if you go a really long time without eating what happened like, let's say you went from

00:42:13.520 --> 00:42:19.589 Lauren Dorman: I don't know. 9 am. To like 3 o'clock without me what's gonna happen at that Sounds like yesterday, except it was 6 o'clock.

00:42:21.080 --> 00:42:21.990 Lauren Dorman: Okay.

00:42:22.090 --> 00:42:24.099 Lauren Dorman: what happens?

00:42:24.430 --> 00:42:32.229 Well, typically I come back and eat anything and everything. I tried to curtail myself, and I had a a chicken Caesar salad, and that was really it.

00:42:32.740 --> 00:42:36.290 Lauren Dorman: Typically the longer that you wait to eat.

00:42:36.710 --> 00:42:40.709 Lauren Dorman: the more you Don't really have control over that eating, and you

00:42:40.790 --> 00:42:53.729 Lauren Dorman: eat past fullness. And that's just a biology. You can't fight biology right? So your body needed more energy earlier in the day. So now it has to make up for it. Another important thing that a lot of clients learn with me is

00:42:54.190 --> 00:43:06.860 Lauren Dorman: they're like, oh, I didn't realize that, like you know, you had eggs in the morning, and then you have just a salad with chicken at lunch, and then you have steak and vegetable to dinner, and then all of a sudden, they're in the cabinet all night eating, you know, ice cream and chips and cookies.

00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:11.369 Lauren Dorman: and I said, Hold on! Did you eat enough during the day? And they're like

00:43:11.430 --> 00:43:16.769 Lauren Dorman: Oh, I didn't even think about that. That would affect my evening habits.

00:43:18.020 --> 00:43:24.670 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Yes, striking a a nerve, and definitely it's so rating the closet in cabinet late at night

00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:33.959 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: we got. We got to take a quick break. Lord, but we'll be right back with the Don't Dietitian herself. Lauren Dorman, When we come back, stay with us.

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00:45:41.620 --> 00:46:01.039 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Welcome back to always Friday with me, Stephen Fry, your Smb guy joined by Lauren Dorman, the Don't Dietitian herself. I I can't thank you enough for coming on the show today, Lauren. I know we've been talking about it for some time. I think this is a very important topic of discussion that people should listen to early on in the year and look to get

00:46:01.210 --> 00:46:17.269 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: a little bit of guidance from somebody like yourself, instead of just going on the Internet trying to figure out what's the right move for them, joining the gym joining some type of diet program that people are shoving in your face everywhere. This is this is an important discussion. I'm: i'm thrilled to have you here.

00:46:17.580 --> 00:46:18.950 Lauren Dorman: Thank you so much.

00:46:19.080 --> 00:46:34.749 Lauren Dorman: I want to talk a little bit if it's okay about good, bad dudes. Is that okay? And that's that. That's great. This is the message part of the show baby from weekend insight, the Monday impact. So let's do it. Leave everybody. Some sound bites. What do we have here Looks like an orange to me.

00:46:36.060 --> 00:46:53.229 Lauren Dorman: Looks like a Hershey Bar. Okay? So what are your thoughts immediately, and what's most most People's thoughts are the orange is healthier than the Hershey bar. But me, I'll eat everything. I'm an equal opportunity. Guy. Okay. So what if what if I changed your mindset right? Which I do with

00:46:53.330 --> 00:46:54.879 Lauren Dorman: with everyone I work with.

00:46:55.060 --> 00:47:00.779 Lauren Dorman: And I said, tell you that there's actually no food that is unhealthy or healthy, or good or bad.

00:47:01.070 --> 00:47:06.390 Lauren Dorman: And you're living with that. You're living with that mindset, and you're neutralizing food.

00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:12.020 Lauren Dorman: I I I love that type of mind. So that's probably me. Anyway.

00:47:12.150 --> 00:47:17.879 Lauren Dorman: If you say something is like, and especially for you know the school programs that I do. I I make sure that

00:47:18.370 --> 00:47:21.990 Lauren Dorman: you know the teachers and help teachers understand not to do that. But

00:47:22.270 --> 00:47:32.689 Lauren Dorman: labeling the foods is healthy and not healthy, actually gives you the wrong idea about the food, and it puts it on a pedestal, and then you're going to want to eat. How many of these a lot

00:47:33.120 --> 00:47:47.079 Lauren Dorman: I I see you've been. I see you've been in my pantry before, and not feel physically good. But what if we had both of these together at the same time, and maybe added some nuts or some cheese? Do you think you feel kind of satisfied and nourished? And and

00:47:47.140 --> 00:47:57.930 Lauren Dorman: that would be like a nice, wide variety of food? Right? I'm a smorgasbord type of guy, so i'll take everything all at once. Yes. So instead of like focusing on the food as just the help, think about

00:47:57.950 --> 00:48:10.390 Lauren Dorman: social time movement, think about hydration, rest, stress, management. Think about honoring a balance and variety, honoring your hunger and fullness, nourishing your

00:48:10.490 --> 00:48:18.320 Lauren Dorman: your soul, but also like making food like joyful right, and having mindfulness and having self compassion

00:48:19.140 --> 00:48:22.330 Lauren Dorman: most of the time. This works really well, so it's a mindset you.

00:48:22.770 --> 00:48:40.779 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: I I couldn't agree more, and it again, it goes to a lot of the discussion of being consultative, and everybody kind of being their own, their own vessel, their own journey, their own independent type of entity where a lot of times the diet and self-proclaimed nutritionists and folks out there that are pushing some type of agenda.

00:48:40.810 --> 00:48:44.690 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: you know, really is just it might be trying to shove a square peg into a round.

00:48:44.940 --> 00:48:49.869 Lauren Dorman: And you know i'm not saying that that, you know. Yes, there are less nutrient dense foods. But

00:48:50.050 --> 00:48:55.859 Lauren Dorman: the reality is you're going to feel better with more nutrientsense Foods right physically and mentally.

00:48:56.260 --> 00:48:58.960 Lauren Dorman: But there's a place for joyful food

00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:05.270 Lauren Dorman: and an excess amount, you might say. Oh, I don't really feel that good when I have. I don't

00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.649 Lauren Dorman: right, but it's not coming from.

00:49:07.830 --> 00:49:13.890 Lauren Dorman: I shouldn't have the 5 donuts. It's kind of like coming from within yourself. What do I? How do I feel?

00:49:14.030 --> 00:49:16.619 Lauren Dorman: What sounds good? What's going to keep me.

00:49:16.640 --> 00:49:32.870 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: or you shouldn't be in a $100 worth of Chinese food all at once. But, hey, you know, it's Christmas. But but but yeah, it's it. You know anything. Look moderation for most things like some people tend to have that all or nothing personality. And I know you come across that, and what you do as well.

00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:39.450 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: you know, and I I you know I see it a lot of times. Whether it's, you know somebody has an individual or a business owner.

00:49:39.540 --> 00:49:49.879 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: It's it's kind of like an all or nothing mentality, and it's it's not always like that. There is a middle of the road. There is middle ground. There's multiple lanes of traffic that you can try and play.

00:49:50.150 --> 00:50:00.479 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: But this is 1 one of those things, especially if you're a foodie. I feel like i'm, you know, if i'm trying to stop myself at any point. If I see something else that i'm into like, oh, go try it.

00:50:00.890 --> 00:50:15.339 Lauren Dorman: Yeah, I mean in the All or nothing is not getting you anywhere. It's actually it's it's not healthy to have those thoughts all the time that i'll be better tomorrow. I shouldn't be doing this. What's wrong with me? That's not help that. That's all in your brain. And you're having those constant

00:50:15.500 --> 00:50:27.470 Lauren Dorman: thoughts that are, you know, affecting and causing stress actually in your body. I I had a friend, you know recently who cut red meat out of his life at the ripe old age of 42 for the first time.

00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:46.510 Lauren Dorman: you know, went like maybe a month or so, and then went out to dinner and had some, and he was sick for a few days. His body couldn't handle it anymore. Yeah. And again, it's like that person feels no stress mentally around restricting need, and they feel good like that. That works. But if they're like thinking about me all the time.

00:50:46.600 --> 00:50:56.090 Lauren Dorman: that's a problem. So we have, you know, all this are different human beings, and we have different preferences and different you know, likes and dislikes. And

00:50:56.110 --> 00:51:02.910 Lauren Dorman: so I work with an individual, you know. See, See how your mental, physical and emotional health will handle all this.

00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:16.410 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: I know you have a you know a lot of, you know, quick little checklists of, you know, and and and and quick little bullet points of things that people should really be thinking about with all of this. But you know I love the you know where we started. Your whole mission of

00:51:16.420 --> 00:51:28.410 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: everyone should have access to a registered Dietitian. So why Don't, you tell everybody just how easy it is to get in contact with you, and you know what the initial steps look like, so they really can get some guidance before the year gets underway.

00:51:28.820 --> 00:51:35.379 Lauren Dorman: sure. So I do offer a one on one program, and then I offer a group program.

00:51:35.650 --> 00:51:39.409 Lauren Dorman: who program is virtual, One on one is virtual or in person.

00:51:39.560 --> 00:51:47.359 Lauren Dorman: And then I offer school workshops and business wellness workshops. I'm. Also working with the medical health

00:51:47.590 --> 00:51:56.330 Lauren Dorman: a field to empower them to help their clients with eating behaviors and issues and food and body struggles.

00:51:56.450 --> 00:51:57.630 Lauren Dorman: so

00:51:57.860 --> 00:52:00.780 Lauren Dorman: when I believe in the show notes, we'll put

00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.079 Lauren Dorman: my. The access to my free guide is 10 ways

00:52:05.170 --> 00:52:20.089 Lauren Dorman: to approach nutrition from a self care standpoint. So it it's really it's it. A lot of people have given me great feedback. It's just 10 simple. The ways that you can just approach, you know. Take care of your health, and that has nothing to do with dieting.

00:52:20.210 --> 00:52:26.040 Lauren Dorman: I am on Instagram as Don't Diet Dietitian. Pretty simple to find.

00:52:26.070 --> 00:52:29.419 Lauren Dorman: But yeah, I mean, when you work with me

00:52:29.710 --> 00:52:48.620 Lauren Dorman: you learn that you know you're pursuing help, and you're not. You're not dieting anymore. You're not restricting. Anymore. You're you're really coming from within with those that intuitive mindfulness. And yeah, I mean, many clients have told me that it doesn't only transfer form their relationship with food.

00:52:48.870 --> 00:52:58.739 Lauren Dorman: but it transforms their relationship with their spouse, their kids, their families, like they just feel an overall sense of peace and calm once they can get that

00:52:58.980 --> 00:53:02.589 Lauren Dorman: great, less brain space around food and body.

00:53:02.600 --> 00:53:24.089 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: You said so many of my magic words there, Laura, and it's, you know, while i'm not somebody who necessarily practices it. I do believe your health comes first, no matter what. Yeah, you have your health, you have happiness, you have peace, and then ultimately everyone likes to get get some wealth right. But a lot of times people focus on that end product, and they miss it the first 3. And you know that what working with someone like you as a registered dietitian is

00:53:24.100 --> 00:53:42.799 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: is is probably a great foundation to go in the right direction. So once again. Thank you for joining me here today. Love what you're doing, and how you're doing it. Love Don't Dietitian, although it's hard to say. But it's a. It's the mentality is right where it is perfect for me. Before I let you go for the day, we're going to revisit your answers to my questions.

00:53:42.810 --> 00:54:02.430 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So when I asked you who your favorite movie or TV show character was, you, said Leonardo Dicaprio, which you know, I know some folks that give me. An answer like that is like any specific characters like I have a bunch of them with Leo. In fact, a bunch of them are actually based on real people, but our heads kind of went to the same place. You, said Frank, abing nail from Catch me if you can.

00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:06.650 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: so that that's a great one to me. And then, right after that, you said

00:54:06.850 --> 00:54:09.569 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: Jordan Belford from Wolf of Wall Street.

00:54:09.810 --> 00:54:13.169 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: so obviously a a crowd favorite these days.

00:54:13.230 --> 00:54:20.640 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: But I feel like you. You felt like you couldn't say some type of Leonardo Dicaprio character without referencing Titanic.

00:54:20.670 --> 00:54:34.790 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: So Jack Dawson, the love story was on the other day. It's like my kids asked me, Why are you watching this like every I? For some reason, when I see it, I can't help but turn it on like it's I don't know. Kept captivating.

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:55.840 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: It's a tough one to get so sucked into if you find it on TV, and when I asked you what your favorite movie was. You said 1 million dollar baby, and you know you, You were helping out the people that you do, and and putting up some with some of the fights and the struggles that people have had. I I I think of you as the 1 million dollar baby with the right folks in in the corner a little bit, which is very cool.

00:54:56.900 --> 00:55:12.210 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: And then As far as the music world you said the piano and Tori Amos, which love that answer. Actually, I think that's the first time that one's been mentioned on the show. So love that 106 episodes later we got there. And now you look absolutely ravishing as Torri Amos. Thanks.

00:55:12.390 --> 00:55:31.220 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: But Like once again, this is a this is a phenomenal topic of discussion. Those of you who are first starting out 2023, and you've made the New Year's resolution. New Year new you type of mentality. You gotta listen to this. You have to get a registered dietitian in your corner. You have to give Lauren Dorman a call at Don't. Dietitians

00:55:31.470 --> 00:55:43.639 Steven Frey @alwaysfreyday @smbguy: have a great weekend. Everybody we will be back next week. Friday. 11. Am. Right after the birthday boy, Tommy D. On philanthropy and focus right here on talk radio dot mit take care, everyone. See? You soon.

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