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Join Sam and Jennifer as they discuss real life tragedies and what the journey is like to go from trauma to thriving!
EPISODE SUMMARY:
This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam welcomes Best-Selling Author, Speaker, Director & Producer, Jennifer Kauffman.
Jennifer is the Director and Producer of the transformational movie, There’s Got To Be More To Life, based on a true story of Jen’s journey of rising up from terrorism and childhood traumas where she went from barely surviving to thriving.
She’s an Executive Producer of 2 Emmy and Telly award winning films, A New Leash on Life: The K9’s for Warriors Story and Freedom Isn’t Free: The Folds of Honor Story. She’s an inspirational speaker, best-selling author, award-winning results coach and founder of The Rise & Thrive Movement.
Through Transformational Movies, Jen is on a mission to inspire, encourage and empower people to rise despite seemingly impossible situations, transforming their trauma, enabling them to rise and thrive to live their best life.
http://www.theresgottobemoretolife.com/
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Segment 1
Sam reads a section from his book Everyday Awakening titled “More Is Said With Our Presence Than With Our Words.” . The section he reads from his book is about a practice of communication, feeling, focus, and a practice of using our whole being. He said that he wrote this section of the book about 3 years ago after going through a workshop where the whole weekend was about how we connect with one another. He explains how presence is an important part in how we connect. He talks about how when someone is more present, it becomes powerful because you realize more about things and show up in a way where you notice more about your surroundings like other people in the room. Especially in difficult situations, he challenges us to work to be more present and notice the difference. He also announces that he'll be co authoring an anthology that will be coming out called The Game Changers. It's a series of books and the new one will be volume 7. Sam introduces his guest, Jennifer Kauffman, Director and Producer of the transformational movie, There’s Got To Be More To Life. Jennifer gives her thoughts on the piece that Sam read. She tells us an interesting story of her working with horses to learn about nonverbal communication and energy.
Segment 2
Jennifer talks about getting into personal development coaching and film. She says that in her mid 30s, she reflected on her accomplishments working in the financial industry. But she was burnt out. Jennifer also realized that there is more to life. She left the corporate world and three months later, she started her business coaching business working small and mid sized companies. At the time there was a recession, though many of her clients made it through. After a couple of years, she decided to take a two month sabbatical. Unfortunately, a few months before, she was standing 15 feet from the explosions at the Boston Marathon. She had enough money to keep her afloat as she went on a journey of healing naturally. This came to her mind when she was in the ER after the incident. A couple of years ahead, she had an opportunity to produce two films that were helping veterans and their families. In 2019, she created her own film about herself to inspire and encourage others to rise up, grow , and go from trauma to thriving. She explains more about her journey leaving the corporate world. Even though she was successful materialistically or financially, she wasn't satisfied. Sam also talks with Jennifer about her amazing jump into making films. She talks about how it started with her time spent with a spiritual business coach that led her to share her own story of trauma physically, mentally and emotionally and overcoming this.
Segment 3
Jennifer talks about the life changing moment in her life when she was at the explosion at the Boston Marathon. She says that she was born and raised outside of Boston. She had never been to a marathon. During this particular year, her friend’s son was running for medical school. Her friend asked her to come along. She never valued marathons but was touched and inspired by the amount and different kinds of people she saw come through. Jennifer recalls walking through the finish line. As they were approaching the finish line, she realized how very little to no security there was. Jennifer describes what she saw as an eerie gust of wind that came through. Next thing she recalls was that they were laying on the ground and there was a big explosion. She says that she didn't realize that she was injured at that moment. Being in the ER was also a traumatic experience for her. Jennifer says that she remembered seeing all of the doctors talking over her as she wondered if she was going to live to see another day. She also talks about going through survivor's guilt. Jennifer opens up to us about her feelings and how she didn't want to be around people; she wondered why her life was spared. She learned over years about rising up to her fears, anger and rage, to forgive as well as healing from her ptsd, spinal injuries and traumatic brain injury. She tells us about her natural healing process.
Segment 4
Jennifer talks with Sam about her film, There’s Got To Be More To Life. She says that the idea came out of a prayer and meditation of what she can do to serve humanity. Without much background in film, she wasn't sure about the idea. Though she reached out to an Emmy award winning director who she had worked with in the past. They loved the idea. Jennifer says that she was a bit scared to be in a vulnerable situation where she'd share this part of her life. She mentions how she told herself that she would be busy with her business coaching work. As she got ready to go on a speaking tour around March of 2020, everything stopped. By then, she had no excuse and wasn't busy. She went into working on the film but wasn't confident in herself or the film. The film is more about her journey and how she rose up from trauma. She says that she “planted the film with different what-if statements.” Jennifer brings up one of them: “what if trauma is a gift.” This film is also part of a trilogy. You can learn more and get in touch with Jennifer at jenniferkauffman.com, you can also search for the title of the film as well as searching for her on social media.
00:00:29.020 --> 00:00:58.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon. Good morning! Good evening, Good middle of the night, depending on where you're listening to welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased that you are all here with me today. We've got a wonderful wonderful show in store for you, and and we're going to get to it, because I really want to introduce my guests. But of course, first we have our little section from my book,
00:00:58.260 --> 00:01:10.679 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: everyday awakening, uh which, as always, you can get it Everyday awakening book, dot com, and oh, by the way, um! I haven't mentioned it yet. So this is, I guess my official announcement,
00:01:10.690 --> 00:01:37.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: i'm going to be co-author, and in a thought and in an anthology that's coming out in about a month. Um, so it's uh the game changers uh book. It's a series of books. This will be Volume Seven Um and i'll be telling you all about that, as we get closer to the launch. Date. Um! So i'll have a second book out. Um, But let's get started with our section from everyday awakening. So this section is entitled.
00:01:38.020 --> 00:01:43.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: More is said with our presence than with our words.
00:01:43.330 --> 00:01:49.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Communication is about more than words. It is about more than our voice,
00:01:49.180 --> 00:01:56.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: more than the music we make, or the body. Language we use. Communication is a practice;
00:01:57.150 --> 00:02:00.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it is a practice of using our whole being.
00:02:00.950 --> 00:02:03.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a practice of presence.
00:02:04.180 --> 00:02:07.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a practice of intent of attention.
00:02:08.310 --> 00:02:11.529 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a practice of feeling.
00:02:11.650 --> 00:02:14.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a practice of focus.
00:02:14.950 --> 00:02:22.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we communicate we are engaged with another in a precious way we are giving.
00:02:22.700 --> 00:02:29.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They are giving their time and attention to us. They are giving of themselves to us.
00:02:30.300 --> 00:02:38.379 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is up to us to honor that gift, and we honor it by being fully present with them,
00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:44.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to see them, feel them, and experience them deeply.
00:02:44.990 --> 00:02:47.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This way they see us,
00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:52.579 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: feel us and experience us deeply too.
00:02:52.980 --> 00:02:57.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It is a holy communion, a sacred moment.
00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:10.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We honor that sacred moment through the quality of our contact with another person. We honor it by standing fully in our own presence, and by fully taking in their presence.
00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:16.299 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we truly show up this way for another person, they can feel it
00:03:16.590 --> 00:03:25.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: more gets conveyed through how we are being with them, more feeling, more energy, more information,
00:03:26.630 --> 00:03:29.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Then we convey merely by speaking.
00:03:29.700 --> 00:03:33.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We say so much with our presence.
00:03:35.190 --> 00:03:38.839 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What is your presence saying about you?
00:03:39.320 --> 00:03:47.219 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I I wrote this section of the book, probably about three years ago, four years ago. Um,
00:03:47.450 --> 00:04:04.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: after going through a a workshop um that was put on by the evolutionary business council with a wonderful gentleman by the name of Saty and Raja up in the Vancouver area, and the whole weekend was about contact was about how we connect with another,
00:04:05.300 --> 00:04:17.389 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that in combination with the shamanistic work that I do with presence is such a vital component to It is kind of where this comes from,
00:04:18.410 --> 00:04:20.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it really
00:04:20.420 --> 00:04:23.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sort of sank in with me.
00:04:25.100 --> 00:04:26.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: How much
00:04:26.460 --> 00:04:28.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: we tend to place
00:04:29.670 --> 00:04:37.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: all of the value of our communication in words and sound,
00:04:38.660 --> 00:04:41.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that there's this unspoken,
00:04:43.130 --> 00:04:47.779 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: this, this, this part of communication
00:04:47.960 --> 00:04:53.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that is subtle, yet profound, that is
00:04:53.740 --> 00:05:00.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: actually more important than the words we say. Yet sometimes we barely notice it,
00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:03.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and that's presence.
00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That's how we are really being.
00:05:08.880 --> 00:05:14.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And And although this this section isn't really a very long section in my book, this one is so
00:05:15.070 --> 00:05:24.519 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: important, and and this is one that that really speaks to my heart in a big way, because I've seen it in action. I've seen the difference
00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:35.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: between people who are being really present in the moment with you and people who are not, or when I've been very present with people, and when I've not been present with them,
00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:38.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it's amazing
00:05:38.890 --> 00:05:41.909 how much information there is, how much
00:05:42.550 --> 00:05:51.349 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: richness there is in the in the field between us when we're really present with another person
00:05:52.610 --> 00:06:00.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: uh one of my teachers. Armand says that uh, the person who is most present has the most power in the room,
00:06:01.450 --> 00:06:09.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because if you think about it, if if you're in a group meeting about business presentation, a family gathering whatever.
00:06:09.930 --> 00:06:16.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If you're more present than the other people with what's going on around, you,
00:06:17.060 --> 00:06:20.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you notice things that other people, miss.
00:06:20.340 --> 00:06:33.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Somebody might seem a little nervous to you, someone else a little depressed, someone You can feel they're a little anxious about someone. Someone else may, you know, feel like they maybe don't feel safe to you.
00:06:35.540 --> 00:06:42.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So our presence, and when we're really present with other people, we have more information than they do.
00:06:43.090 --> 00:06:47.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so then we're able to show up in a way and say things
00:06:47.530 --> 00:06:54.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that the other person is probably thinking to themselves. Oh, was was this person, a mind reader, like, how did they know that?
00:06:57.500 --> 00:07:12.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And to the person who's just being very, very present, It's not mind reading, it's obvious it's written all over their face, their body, their expression, their energy, how they feel.
00:07:15.380 --> 00:07:16.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:07:17.200 --> 00:07:18.929 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I really
00:07:19.230 --> 00:07:20.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: want to
00:07:20.830 --> 00:07:22.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: impress upon you
00:07:23.340 --> 00:07:25.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how important
00:07:26.370 --> 00:07:31.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: our presence is when we show up in a situation,
00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:36.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and if you don't believe me, that's fine.
00:07:37.100 --> 00:07:38.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Try it for yourself.
00:07:39.880 --> 00:07:43.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Try having a conversation with a friend
00:07:43.820 --> 00:07:46.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being ultra-
00:07:46.790 --> 00:07:48.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and see what you pick up,
00:07:50.120 --> 00:08:00.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and try not being so present, and see the response you get from your friend. I think the contrast will actually tell you quite a bit,
00:08:03.190 --> 00:08:04.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so
00:08:06.450 --> 00:08:14.729 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I I hope this speaks to you. I I hope my my loyal listeners, who are watching and listening in.
00:08:15.320 --> 00:08:22.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know You've heard me speak about presence in the past, but but not quite to this depth. So
00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:29.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: being present,
00:08:29.640 --> 00:08:36.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like even in the difficult situation, especially in the difficult situations
00:08:36.770 --> 00:08:40.549 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: work to be even more present
00:08:40.820 --> 00:08:42.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: than you usually are,
00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:47.459 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and see if if you can notice the difference.
00:08:47.820 --> 00:08:50.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: See if the person who
00:08:51.710 --> 00:08:55.029 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: uh you're with notices the difference.
00:08:55.720 --> 00:09:21.979 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: All right. So uh, that's my section of the book. This section is entitled More is said with our presence than our words, and that again comes from my book Everyday Awakening. You are more powerful than you know. You can always pick it up at Www. Dot everyday awakening bookcom. That'll just take you straight to our Amazon listing, and for those of you who are like me, and like going to like small independent bookstores,
00:09:22.250 --> 00:09:37.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's in major distributors. So even a small independent bookstore can order the book. They may not have it on their shelves, but ask them for it. Ask them to look it up, and they can get it for you. So, um I highly recommend. We go out and support our small independent businesses, so please do that
00:09:37.720 --> 00:10:07.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: anyway. So that's that. And so now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show. Uh, bestselling author, speaker, director, and producer, Jennifer Kaufman Jennifer, is the director and producer of the transformational movie. There's got to be more to life based on a true story of Jen's journey of rising up from terrorism and childhood traumas, where she went from barely surviving to thriving.
00:10:07.540 --> 00:10:17.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She's an executive producer of two Emmy and Telly award winning films, a new leash on life the the Canines for Warriors
00:10:17.860 --> 00:10:31.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Story and Freedom Isn't free The Folds of Honor Story She's an inspirational Speaker Bestselling Author Award Winning Results Coach and Founder of the rise and thrive. Movement
00:10:32.810 --> 00:10:35.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: welcome to the conscious consultant hour, Jennifer.
00:10:35.770 --> 00:10:54.689 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Thanks for having me, Sam and I absolutely loved what you read at the beginning of this show, and if if I can, i'd love to speak on it, because it reminds me of when I was it actually interestingly enough, it was January of two thousand and thirteen, and I was at a woman's retreat with Louise, Hey, and Charles Richardson,
00:10:54.700 --> 00:11:15.459 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and there's one hundred and fifty women there, and I met this um spiritual business coach, and that was a term that was new to me. I had worked with business coaches, but I had never worked with someone that was a spiritually based business code. So I was intrigued. So I um I did a I hired her to do a an in-person session while I was there,
00:11:15.470 --> 00:11:28.210 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I was telling her about my business, and how I wanted to grow my business. My business at that point was actually doing really well. Um. I had just come off my best year in business. All my clients had record breaking years, but I knew that there was more
00:11:28.220 --> 00:11:36.229 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and interestingly enough, she said to me, i'd like you to work on your communication skills, I said.
00:11:36.370 --> 00:11:46.179 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I've done toast masters. I've been the president to a semester. I've done deal cardiac courses. I've done a boat load of training and communication, because no, this communication,
00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:51.320 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: it's different. I'd like you to sign up to work with horses,
00:11:51.540 --> 00:12:11.320 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and they had him on the property. It was at resort in Tucson. I'm thinking of myself, How on earth is working with horse is going to help me in my business, but you know what it did, because I had to learn non verbal communication and manage my own energy with the horse. Now I must admit
00:12:11.900 --> 00:12:14.450 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I was actually scared getting in the ring.
00:12:14.470 --> 00:12:27.499 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I was scared getting in the ring with me. And um, you know a trainer in the horse, and this forces is huge, and and they warn you the course will kick you if you if it's senses, fear, and if you and if you're in certain places,
00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:28.980 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and
00:12:29.680 --> 00:12:41.479 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: it taught me the importance of nonverbal communication, and it taught me presence. It taught me how to communicate with a horse not using my words, and it was powerful.
00:12:41.610 --> 00:12:46.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm. I I can so relate. Um. A number of years ago,
00:12:47.710 --> 00:12:56.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: probably about five six years ago, my wife and I uh went for a vacation to a a uh,
00:12:57.010 --> 00:13:01.449 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not a dude ranch. It was a a um
00:13:01.710 --> 00:13:03.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: like a a of
00:13:03.650 --> 00:13:06.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a a um
00:13:06.140 --> 00:13:34.569 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: words family at the moment. It. It was a a mustang ranch, and it was a place where um they had like a a a glamping kind of thing where they have these huge tents that you could sleep in and and kind of out in the desert, and then you would learn how to ride these mustangs. They had these wild mustangs, and they had a few that they had broken and trained, and and you could ride on them. And it was so funny because I hadn't ridden a horse, you know I was a kid,
00:13:34.580 --> 00:13:45.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and my wife I don't uh I hadn't read a horse, and she was in China, and so we both get on. It was just so funny, and these big big horses, and it was just so funny how like
00:13:45.790 --> 00:14:13.419 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: her horse just totally followed her energy like she running up in front of my horse. She she, like, started behind my horse and in front of my horse, and then went off the trail, which is totally her. And then my horse was just kind of slow and taking it easy and going along, and and it was, I mean, totally me, and so that connection with the horse, and there's such magnificent animals. Oh, my God! I've I had! I gained such a
00:14:13.430 --> 00:14:24.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a renewed appreciation for these animals that they there's such magnificent creatures, but they they know they get you right away.
00:14:25.470 --> 00:14:36.419 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Well, they get the they get You know We We have, on average thirty-seven million cells in our body, and each cell is packed with information. So when we're present,
00:14:36.470 --> 00:14:48.800 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and when we're in alignment with who we are, naturally we are sending codes in queues and energy, without our words, without our communicate, without us speaking anything, and
00:14:48.940 --> 00:15:04.530 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I have found it's actually more powerful. I recently was in it about a year ago is in New York City, and I I saw an Asian woman who didn't speak English, and it was very clear she was lost, and she came and asked me directions. We couldn't communicate in a normal way,
00:15:04.540 --> 00:15:14.009 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: but I got what she was asking, and I found him queues and gestures, and then just guided her to where she needed to go. And it's powerful
00:15:14.020 --> 00:15:30.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah, very, very powerful, all right. Uh we're gonna just take a quick break, and then we come back. Um, I want to ask you about how you got into filmmaking, and how you even got into coaching work. Um, just to to kind of set the stage, and then we'll talk about
00:15:30.710 --> 00:15:37.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that experience you had, and and and sort of what you're working on now in your new life's mission. Okay,
00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:38.400 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Sounds great,
00:15:38.410 --> 00:16:08.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful. So everyone please stay tuned You're listening to the conscious consult now are awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday, twelve noon to one Pm. Eastern right here and talk radio that Nyc. And on Wednesdays ten Am. Pacific time at Kmt. In California, and of course, on all the major podcasting platforms. Apple Google Stitcher, Spotify Pandora. I heart radio. The conscious consult. My art is everywhere, and if you you you have a favorite,
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00:18:33.600 --> 00:19:03.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the conscious, consulting our awakening humanity. Just want to give a shout out to loyal listeners, Paddy and Sinai, I see you're both on watching on the Youtube live stream. Thank you so so much. Um for those listening who, like are used to seeing our live stream. Video on Facebook. We're not on Facebook anymore, but we are streaming. Live to Youtube. So please go to our channel and subscribe to our Youtube Channel. Uh, uh, just uh on Youtube. Just do search for talking alternative broadcasting,
00:19:03.390 --> 00:19:22.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and you'll find it It's like Youtube slash, c slash, talking alternative something like that. Anyway. So just check that out. Um. So, Jen, I wanted to ask you. Well, first, how did you get into sort of the the the sort of coaching and personal development, personal transformation space.
00:19:22.910 --> 00:19:26.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then I want to know how you got into the making movie space.
00:19:26.820 --> 00:19:41.909 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Well, um! It was I was in my mid thirties, and I was reflecting on life at that point, and I had been a very successful corporate, executive woman. Um, who predominantly worked in the financial industry. I was burnt out,
00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:57.820 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and um I was really in the space of There's gotta be more life. Um! I was traveling all around the world, but That was my life work with my life and I It was really at a point where I wanted more, and so I left the corporate world, not knowing what I was going to do.
00:19:57.830 --> 00:20:17.709 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Three months later what emerge was, I would start my own business coaching business, and I really wanted to work with small and mid-sized companies. When I made that decision. That was in October of two thousand and seven, not knowing in two thousand and eight, we would go through um a pretty major economic recession, and statistically
00:20:17.860 --> 00:20:30.100 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Um, At least a third of my clients at the time should have gone on a business. But we made a pact that we were all going to help each other. We did something that a lot of people weren't doing at the time is that we collaborated with one another.
00:20:30.110 --> 00:20:44.249 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: And um! All of my all of the companies I coached at that time made it through some barely, but some actually what I witnessed was some actually grew during that time, and it helped me to see that
00:20:44.260 --> 00:20:56.019 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: you know things are gonna happen in our outside world. It's how we relate to that and what we make it mean that determines our results, whether it's our personal results or our business results.
00:20:56.470 --> 00:21:14.009 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: And so that's how I got into coaching, and I, you know um was doing consulting work, too, and I did that. I still do that on some occasion for fifteen years, and in two thousand and twelve, my clients and I had record breaking years, and I decided I was going to take it two on sabbatical,
00:21:14.580 --> 00:21:32.199 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: not knowing that that was going to be just a few months before. I was standing fifteen feet from the first of two explosions at the Boston Marathon bombings, and where my world was shattered in a nanosecond, and I was. I didn't know what to make of life at that point.
00:21:32.230 --> 00:21:43.340 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Um At the time I was a successful solepreneur, and I hadn't yet developed passive income strategies in my business, so that my business would work without me.
00:21:43.350 --> 00:22:01.610 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: So fortunately I had quite a bit of money saved um, and that carried me through for two years. As I went on this journey of learning how to heal. Naturally something I had no prior knowledge to do, but something that I that came very strongly as an intuitive nudge when I was in the er
00:22:01.650 --> 00:22:03.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: on that day.
00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:08.919 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: So I just went on this journey, and then, you know, to answer your question about filming
00:22:09.080 --> 00:22:25.619 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: so fast forward four years into my, you know healing journey. I was in the space of Okay, now, what? And I had an opportunity to produce two films that were helping veterans and veterans families.
00:22:25.630 --> 00:22:43.180 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Uh, that's something that's very important to me and um from there. It was two thousand and nineteen that I, through my prayer and meditation, asking for what's next? Was It's time for you to create your own film about your story to inspire and encourage others
00:22:43.190 --> 00:22:45.819 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: that no matter what life throws your way
00:22:46.210 --> 00:22:59.329 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: that you can.
00:22:59.370 --> 00:23:00.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:04.019 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I mean, there's so much there. I just want to unpack a little bit
00:23:04.470 --> 00:23:10.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to go from sort of a highly successful executive.
00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:14.009 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The financial world, which is a very
00:23:14.360 --> 00:23:21.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: challenging dog, eat dog cut through kind of world I've I've worked in it many, many years ago, but on the it end
00:23:22.110 --> 00:23:29.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to go from that to a place where you're helping and supporting people. That sounds like a pretty major shift.
00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:46.249 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So i'm i'm curious. Was there something I mean, other than just being burnt out? But was there something that kind of made you say to yourself, after going through that experience that like you wanted to not just do something different. But you wanted to do something to help people.
00:23:46.260 --> 00:24:05.940 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Yeah. So it actually happened a few years earlier. Um! It was on nine eleven. Actually, I was supposed to be in a plane that day and a couple of days before the plans changed. But we had a small office in the World Trade Center and Um, all of our colleagues that were in the building that day sadly
00:24:05.950 --> 00:24:25.420 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: lost their lives, and Um and I knew people in the building that were either lost their lives or injured, and I was excuse me. I was about to turn thirty, and my dad was about to turn fifty in the next month, and my dad and I had been a strange for ten years, and that
00:24:25.430 --> 00:24:30.650 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: experience of nine eleven shook me to the core. I sure everyone in the world
00:24:30.780 --> 00:24:39.869 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and it got me. It It was my wake up call to say, Okay, Life's too short. You just never know when something's going to happen. And I reached out to make amends with my father,
00:24:40.040 --> 00:24:57.319 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and we had started that journey. Um! And then, two and a half months later, unbeknownst to me. Three days after Christmas my father would die tragically in a boating accident, and we hadn't fully reconciled. We were on the journey,
00:24:57.740 --> 00:25:14.859 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: but we hadn't fully reconciled, and I lived with such regret for several years after that, because I thought I had a lot more time. My dad was fifty. He you know I would. I thought I had years ahead of me, and I didn't, and so that that experience
00:25:14.910 --> 00:25:27.699 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: really shook me to the core on another level, and got me to say like, What is this? What is life really about? And there has to really be more to life. And I have had this notion since I was a little girl.
00:25:27.970 --> 00:25:30.560 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: How come we can experience heaven on earth,
00:25:32.740 --> 00:25:50.640 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and although I didn't know how to do it at that time, I always had that inquiry, I was raised both in the Catholic and Protestant charts. No judgment at all. But what I heard them say was, that in order to go to heaven, I had to be a really good girl couldn't mess up,
00:25:50.650 --> 00:25:53.200 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I I had to wait until I died
00:25:53.320 --> 00:26:00.369 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: for that to happen, and i'm like, really. What then? What's this thing called life about like I didn't. I didn't get it.
00:26:01.070 --> 00:26:18.540 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: So to answer your question, you know I was like I was just longing for more. I wanted to have more purpose in my life. I wanted to feel fulfilled, and even the most very successful, you know, materialistically, you know. Monetarily. I wasn't fulfilled,
00:26:18.550 --> 00:26:24.560 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and me jumping into coaching small and mid-size companies. I got to tell you
00:26:24.660 --> 00:26:32.100 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: two thousand and eight coaching. Those clients was such a challenge, but it was so fulfilling.
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:44.409 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I didn't feel like I was pushing papers in a corporate desk or putting out fires, you know, because of something that went wrong. It was different, and that kind of
00:26:44.520 --> 00:26:50.180 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: experience just lose with you, and then, you know, fast forward to. Now,
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:51.640 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: you know,
00:26:53.040 --> 00:27:11.240 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I want to be able to contribute and share what I've learned, albeit the hard way. And I want to inspire people that there's an easier way. You don't have to wait to go through something as horrific as I did to to listen into here.
00:27:11.420 --> 00:27:30.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It it's sometimes we we feel like Oh, there's got to be some big thing in our lives to cause us to shift and change and and no, it doesn't have to be that way. Um, I I do want to talk more about your experience at the Boston Marathon. Um, But but just before we go to our our next little break Um,
00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:46.819 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what got you started with making films, I mean. Did you have any background in filmmaking? I mean, you know, to go from like being a a finance executive to a coach? And then, all of a sudden you're making films. It seems like a little uh a little bit of a jump. There
00:27:46.830 --> 00:28:03.769 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: it is a big jump. So remember the woman. I mentioned to you the spiritual business coach that I hired to do that one on one session. She also had intuitive abilities and psychic gifts, which at the time I thought was really far out, and but I I paid to be there for an hour, so I listen.
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:16.619 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Ninety-nine of what she said to me really resonated. But she said one thing that that stood out, which was, some day. You're going to work with veterans. This is before the bombings happen, and I was like work with veterans.
00:28:16.630 --> 00:28:27.550 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I absolutely love veterans, and I have two uncles that served, and I have the utmost respect. But I don't know how on earth I would ever serve or add value in their lives. Not knowing
00:28:27.560 --> 00:28:44.120 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: that fast forward I would go through an experience that left me shattered, and I dealt with post-traumatic stress among all these other physical and mental um issues that I had to rise up from. And so now it is my passion, and I feel it's my duty
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:56.860 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: to share what I learned, and how I was able to break free of that indelible person sentence I found myself in, so that others can break themselves free and stop committing suicide. So
00:28:57.030 --> 00:29:00.820 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I was featured in a book with Jack Hanfield
00:29:00.890 --> 00:29:03.240 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: um sharing about my story
00:29:03.290 --> 00:29:19.429 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: when we were out in Hollywood, receiving our award and meeting Jack in person, the opportunity presented itself to produce a film called a newly Shaun, like the canine for your story, which is all about veterans being paired with service dogs, and they're saving each other.
00:29:19.490 --> 00:29:24.479 Uh, and I knew I sat in the back of the room, and I cried,
00:29:24.830 --> 00:29:26.950 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: i'm like this is my opportunity.
00:29:27.220 --> 00:29:29.759 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: So I signed up to be a producer,
00:29:29.950 --> 00:29:47.450 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and then that led me to the next film, and and then here we are, fast forward. It led me to direct and produce my own film. I never went to film school, and we can talk more about it on the break. But I think this is what's possible when we open up to to the infinite wisdom of the divine.
00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:58.629 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What I love about your story, and I relate to it so much. It it's about just kind of saying yes to life of what presents, what's like right in front of you in the moment.
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:15.229 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It it, like many people ask me all the time, you know, running talk, radio that Nyc Sam of your background and broadcast. Did you always want to do this? And i'm like No, I just met a guy at a party, and you know I thought i'd help him to sell his business instead. I bought it myself. So it it's.
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sometimes the most magical things can happen
00:30:18.970 --> 00:30:48.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: when we let go of our plans when we let go our ideas of like what's out there for us, and we just show up in the moment, and we just like, say, yes to what's in front of us if it really truly resonates with us. So i'd love that Jennifer. I love that. Okay, so quick, quick break, and then we'll be right back, and then let's really dive into what happened you that day at the Boston Marathon. And then what is There's got to be more life? What is it all about. And and and what are you working on? Okay,
00:30:49.440 --> 00:31:17.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So everyone please stay tuned. I'm: so thrilled I'm: I'm Paddy. I see uh mentioned something about, she heard eight wild horses were killed out in a Arizona Um, because she thought they were protected. Yes, so one of my lessons from the mustang monument was name of the ranch in in in Nevada is how much the these wild horses are not protected, and and how, like cattle ranches are constantly trying to find ways
00:31:17.300 --> 00:31:39.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: for them to be killed or or finding excuses to get the Government to kill them, because it it limits their grazing land, and It's just such a tragedy and and such a shame. And if you care about forces, you should really look into like the Bureau of Land Management policy towards wild horses. Um, because they they really are indigenous
00:31:39.450 --> 00:31:59.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: creatures, at least now um! And and they're such magnificent animals I I really um hope that we can find a way to protect them from all this. So off the soapbox we gotta take really, really quick break, and we'll be right back in just a moment with Jennifer Kaufman, uh creator of the movie. There's got to be more to life. We'll be right back.
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00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.479 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back. So, Jennifer, we've been kind of leading up to it.
00:34:07.560 --> 00:34:27.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Um! Why, Don't, you tell our audience sort of the the story that that that moment in your life that literally everything changed for you, and and how you were able to come out of that and and go from chaos to thriving from trauma to thriving.
00:34:27.850 --> 00:34:29.319 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Oh, um!
00:34:29.580 --> 00:34:40.539 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Interestingly enough, born and raised outside of Boston, went to University, both grad and under undergrad and grad school in Boston, and I worked in the city. I never been to the Marathon
00:34:40.699 --> 00:34:57.530 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: never. And this particular year Um, a very dear friend of mine. Her son was running for Tufts Medical School. He was becoming a doctor, and because I know my way around the city really. Well, she said, we you come in, you know chair, Dan on, and I said, absolutely,
00:34:57.540 --> 00:35:19.690 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and so little did I know that I was missing out. I'm not. You know my idea of running is behind a white ball, a soccer ball, softball, volleyball, and so long distance running was never my thing, and but we decided to make a day of it, and we we all ventured. There was about twenty of us that ventured out to a mile from the start line,
00:35:19.700 --> 00:35:39.310 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and we saw everybody that the disabled runners coming by, which literally moved me to tears. I was like, Wow! It's such an iconic sport, and I didn't value it until I got to experience it, and I was touched, moved, and inspired, and literally brought to tears.
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.949 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Anyways, we had a really magical day starting out
00:35:43.030 --> 00:35:59.510 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and a group of us we're gonna head to the finish line. Um, fortunately. Um! It was just my dear friend and I my sister, my two little nieces, who are five and seven at the time, and my mom were supposed to come, but the last minute they opted not to,
00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:03.269 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and so my friend Marilyn and I ventured in,
00:36:03.420 --> 00:36:22.200 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I remember walking up towards the finish line, and you could imagine there I mean the The Boston Marathon is probably one of the most iconic outside of the New York City, Marathon in the world, and there are literally hundreds of thousands of people lined, you know, throughout, you know, Hopkins in to Boston,
00:36:22.210 --> 00:36:29.960 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and this day was no different, and as we were approaching the finish line I was very aware there was no formal security,
00:36:30.300 --> 00:36:42.499 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I thought that was odd, because I had been to a lot of professional sporting events where you had to check bags and stuff. But be that as it may, I was like Well, Boston Marathon has been going on for a number of years. I'm sure it's going to be fine,
00:36:42.520 --> 00:36:45.690 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: so we go to the finish line and um,
00:36:46.130 --> 00:36:47.419 and
00:36:47.710 --> 00:36:52.559 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: next thing I know uh, her son was about a half mile out,
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:59.549 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and this eerily gust of when came through, and the next thing I knew We were both laying on the ground,
00:36:59.580 --> 00:37:02.749 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and we heard this loud explosion. And
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:21.030 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: what was so surreal is that, imagine a crowd of people that are related like just so much joy is present. People are just sharing and screaming for their loved ones and friends that are running by You've got announcers. You've got this really high five music,
00:37:21.190 --> 00:37:25.160 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and then in a nanosecond, everything went to silence,
00:37:25.750 --> 00:37:30.129 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and you could hear the shattered glass hitting the ground.
00:37:30.530 --> 00:37:43.319 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: And then, next thing you know, just to see if people emerged in screaming and terror, and it was just absolute mayhem. No human being should ever have to experience that none. And um
00:37:43.470 --> 00:38:00.150 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I you know I didn't realize I was injured at that point. I mean my ear was bothering me, but I wasn't present to anything else, and we walked for forty-five minutes um trying to get away from the scene and all of that. And then I ended up in the er
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:01.649 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and that
00:38:01.890 --> 00:38:09.499 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: two was a traumatic experience for me, and the doctors and nurses did an amazing job and the best they could. But the truth is,
00:38:10.030 --> 00:38:20.730 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: um imagine being in an er, and a bunch of doctors and nurses are rushing at you, and they're talking over you, and you're wondering if you're going to live to see another minute of the day,
00:38:21.240 --> 00:38:31.399 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: so my life flash before me, and I didn't understand it, and you know there is such a thing as survivors guilt. Um. I experienced it. I
00:38:31.450 --> 00:38:45.539 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: wondered why my life was fair, and I was forty-two at the time. I was standing just a few feet from one of the the women that passed away sadly that day Crystal Campbell and I didn't understand it,
00:38:45.630 --> 00:38:57.340 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and that next year was me learning how to rise up from my fear, and Taro is a very outgoing person. Um, very well known in the community. Um had
00:38:57.350 --> 00:39:06.089 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: recently been awarded the forty under forty award for leadership, and now I found myself afraid of my own shadow.
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.590 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Didn't want to leave my home.
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:10.440 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Didn't want to be around people.
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:24.750 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I didn't want to live really um. And so year one was learning how to rise above that fear and terror. And then year two was learning how to rise up from my anger and rage.
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:25.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:39:26.010 --> 00:39:48.499 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I had a lot of physical injuries, you know. I had spinal injuries. I had a minor uh traumatic brain injury As a result of the explosion I suffered from post traumatic stress, which in of itself is a nightmare. Um. And so I had all this stuff in, and I was led down a path of learning how to heal. Naturally something I had no prior knowledge of,
00:39:48.510 --> 00:39:51.229 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and some of the things that I experienced
00:39:51.730 --> 00:40:08.529 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I would have never done if I wasn't in the situation I was in. I found it to be two out there, and I had this. You know It's highly intellectual at the time. And so I had this notion. If this stuff really worked, why isn't it mainstream?
00:40:10.250 --> 00:40:21.359 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: It was at one time, and then
00:40:21.370 --> 00:40:36.600 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: our natural ability to heal. I did all kinds of things, all different types of sound there the light therapy um shamanic work. Um, you name it. I did it, and without any medication,
00:40:37.090 --> 00:40:53.349 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I was in a lot of pain. But I use acupuncture and other modalities to deal with my pain, but my body needed some time to heal. So year I I see my practitioners. I want to be fully recovered from this within the year. No one said no to me,
00:40:53.360 --> 00:41:08.829 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: but as I was coming up on the year I worked with a couple of different um acupunctures, and one in particular was focusing on Chinese medicine, and he said to me. I didn't want to disappoint you, but he goes. I see your healing journey as a three year trajectory
00:41:08.850 --> 00:41:10.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: uh
00:41:10.900 --> 00:41:18.030 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: year. One is getting your physical party ready to handle the next phase, which is more the emotional aspect of it.
00:41:18.670 --> 00:41:38.220 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: And I said, No, I can't be. Can't be worse than this. Did I know. So year two was like, I didn't know who I was, and I had this surreal moment, Sam. I was leaving a Support group meeting with other survivors and first responders.
00:41:38.230 --> 00:41:55.179 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: And listen. I told you I've been born and raised in Boston. Right? We. We drive crazy and we cut people off. It's just a normal thing that we do. We don't take offense most of the time. We don't take offense to it. At least I didn't, and this one particular day I was leaving the hospital, and somebody cut me off,
00:41:55.190 --> 00:42:11.620 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I went into instant road rage something I had never done before, and I chase this person, you know, and i'm yelling and screaming, beeping my horn. I was like I was literally a raving lunatic in my car. Fortunately the person made the light.
00:42:11.630 --> 00:42:16.189 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: By the time I got there the light was red.
00:42:16.380 --> 00:42:22.270 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Thank God for that! But in the moment of sitting there at the red light
00:42:22.490 --> 00:42:28.319 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: that rage turned into profound sadness,
00:42:28.670 --> 00:42:44.540 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I realized, Oh, my gosh! Who's this person? And at that moment I realized that terrorists lived inside of me, and if I acted on my rage, i'd be no different than the two young men that at that time I hated,
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:51.289 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and so that led me on a journey of of learning how to forgive the unforgivable.
00:42:51.380 --> 00:43:09.209 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: And then I had an opportunity in court to speak my impact statement, and I was second to last. I'll never forget this. Um! I was second to last, and most people who chose to speak in public
00:43:09.620 --> 00:43:14.430 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: express their rage rightfully so, and I had certainly been there, so there's no judgment at all,
00:43:15.290 --> 00:43:25.889 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I had gotten myself to another place. I was finally at the place I was willing to forgive,
00:43:26.200 --> 00:43:33.049 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I choose to forgive, and I had no idea what would happen next.
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:35.850 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: But what happened next was
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:51.870 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I had this overwhelming amount of piece that came over me When I spoke those words out loud in court, I made brief eye contact with the surviving um young man, who placed the bomb. You, you know you are, and
00:43:52.860 --> 00:44:08.159 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: in that moment I had compassion for that young man, whereas before I had profound hatred, and over time that compassion led me to being curious curious as to who does this,
00:44:08.170 --> 00:44:15.599 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I learned that those two young men were raised in a war torn country where bombs were being dropped when they were kids.
00:44:16.040 --> 00:44:33.080 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I never had that experience, and I was like Wow! So my compassion learn, you know, morphed into such love for these two young men, and I can understand that when we don't deal in heal or traumas,
00:44:33.160 --> 00:44:37.099 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and that lays form it in us, that rage
00:44:37.740 --> 00:44:52.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: can come out in ways that will harm innocent people, and in this case it did
00:44:52.330 --> 00:45:08.059 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: hurt people hurt people right. The unhealed w wounded are the ones who wound others because that's what they know, and they haven't had the opportunity, or the therapies, or the the the space
00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:34.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: to come to terms with it. And in general, in society we're not caught to to come to terms with this kind of stuff. We're taught to suppress it. We're taught to ignore it. We have to toughen up and and get on with our work and and and get back to doing what we do, and all that does is make us more angry, make us more hurtful and and just perpetuate the violence,
00:45:36.450 --> 00:45:50.919 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it's certainly not heaven on earth.
00:45:50.930 --> 00:45:59.209 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I would love to know where the title comes from, and and why this film became such a passion project for you. Okay, Jen.
00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:19.079 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Sounds good, awesome. So everyone please stay tuned You're listening to the conscious consultant hour weakening humanity. If you miss any part of today show. Remember you can always catch it on all the podcasting platforms. Apple Google's Stitcher, Spotify Pandora. I heart radio and anything else that's out there, and we'll be right back with Jennifer Kaufman
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00:48:22.550 --> 00:48:40.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consult. Now awakening humanity. So, Jen, you, you made a couple of films before, and then you created There's got to be more to life. Tell us about it. Where did the idea come from, and where the title come from?
00:48:41.050 --> 00:49:10.060 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: So the idea came out of a prayer and meditation as to what can I do to serve humanity, and that came through in two thousand and nineteen, not knowing. You know, we were going to be going into a global pandemic in March of two thousand and twenty. Um! I'll be honest. I was like I can't do that. I don't have. I don't have any film experience. I don't have directing experience. And why on earth my story like who cares right? But that, you know I I remember I
00:49:10.070 --> 00:49:18.839 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: pitch the idea to an emmy award-winning friend and director, who directed the first two films that I produced with,
00:49:18.860 --> 00:49:29.600 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and I reached out to him. Uh, i'll never forget it was on a on a Monday, and he said, Oh, my gosh! This is a great idea, and i'll put down the first ten thousand dollars we'll get started, and I was like,
00:49:29.670 --> 00:49:34.669 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I got scared.
00:49:34.730 --> 00:49:45.639 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: And here's the truth, Sam. This truth is as much as I love to talk, and as much as I've spoken on stages in front of thousands of people. I'm actually a really private person.
00:49:45.650 --> 00:50:01.149 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: So to actually come on and admit that. Yes, I, too, thought of killing those two young men at my bare hands, and that I had a terrace that lived inside of me that I had to heal is pretty humbling and very vulnerable,
00:50:01.250 --> 00:50:11.540 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and so long. Story short is, I told myself I was too busy with my business co coaching, consulting work at the time, and I didn't have time for the phone,
00:50:11.550 --> 00:50:30.940 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and then here's how the universe works fast forward. I had just finished working with some of my clients, and I was pivoting to go on a fifteen city speaking tour. This was February of twenty, twenty March, two thousand and twenty, I my first speaking gig, and guess what happens.
00:50:30.950 --> 00:50:49.930 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: It all gets locked down, all gets locked down in every I'm. Now freezing bird. I have no more contracts, for with my coaching, consulting business, all of my speaking engagements are gone, and guess what came right to the surface when I said, Well, now, what
00:50:49.940 --> 00:50:54.439 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: that film? So i'd be honest. I went into a kicking and screaming
00:50:54.500 --> 00:51:02.120 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: because I didn't think I could do it right and fast. Forward. We filmed in two thousand and twenty one. So people said,
00:51:02.200 --> 00:51:14.390 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: you're never going to be able to raise money, you know, during Covid I did um, and then people said, Well, you're never going to be able to travel and produce a film during Covid we did.
00:51:14.430 --> 00:51:19.289 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I intuitively knew that we could create this film, which is
00:51:19.300 --> 00:51:40.629 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: next level. It's actually embedded with all kinds of sound frequencies. It's actually healing. So even if you just watch the film, so it's not about the bombings per se. It's about my journey, and how I rose up in different modalities. But and I plant the film with different. What if statements to give people a chance to contemplate for themselves?
00:51:40.640 --> 00:51:59.539 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: What if trauma is a gift which is a bold, audacious statement, and I remember when my meditation teacher said to me one day, This is about a year after the bombings took place, and I had gone back to my meditation In-person meditation practice, and she said to me, some, Do you guys see this as a gift and so angry,
00:51:59.870 --> 00:52:01.510 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I guess.
00:52:01.600 --> 00:52:04.460 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Do you have? Do you have any idea what it been through?
00:52:05.020 --> 00:52:05.910 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: But
00:52:06.060 --> 00:52:13.329 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: I had such respect and admiration for her, and I knew she would never intentionally hurt me so. She planted a seed that day
00:52:13.550 --> 00:52:18.040 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: that would take months to unpack and unwrap.
00:52:18.220 --> 00:52:24.150 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: But that's it. And so I take people on a journey for themselves.
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:26.790 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: But if you trusted your own instincts,
00:52:26.870 --> 00:52:30.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: what if you could create heaven on earth?
00:52:30.930 --> 00:52:50.180 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: These are just some of the things that we speak about in the film, and we've got Dr. Bruce Lipton, Dr. Sue mortar, I mean Mccusick, some really prominent transformational leaders who I interview because they are mentors to me, and you know. And so I wanted to create something
00:52:50.270 --> 00:53:00.390 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: as part of my legacy, and leaving the world a better place uh I don't intend to go anywhere anytime soon. But as my contribution back to humanity is
00:53:00.670 --> 00:53:17.970 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: shifting our perspective on trauma, and and I want to be a catalyst for humanity evolving and rising up from trauma where we go from surviving to thriving. And so this film there's got to be more to life
00:53:18.030 --> 00:53:35.939 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: is literally my own inquiry in my younger years of me going what every time I had a traumatic experience it happened I was left like, Why is this happening to me, not knowing that that was in of itself a victim statement, because I wouldn't view myself as a victim, but that
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:41.260 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: thinking had me like something's wrong with me. I'm broken. I'm not broken
00:53:41.270 --> 00:53:58.399 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: right? Right? Yeah, we've all been there because life doesn't happen to us right, It happens. And that was a that was a perspective that the that was one of the gifts the bombing gave me was. It gave me the perspective to shift
00:53:58.500 --> 00:54:04.299 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: my thinking, and when I shifted it all. Everything opened up differently for me.
00:54:04.810 --> 00:54:15.459 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: And so the this film is part of a trilogy. Actually, so the first film is to be more to life for anyone that's asking themselves that question. There's got to be more to life
00:54:15.470 --> 00:54:31.440 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: highly encouraged you to go watch the film because you can go on an introspective journey, plus you'll get some healing sound vibration and light light frequencies that will help you, no matter where you are, and you like you don't need to have gone through terrorism or anything, but it's just, but it's a great conversation starter,
00:54:31.450 --> 00:54:48.840 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: but we're working on. The second film called. There is more to life, which get which actually speaks to how people can start to create heaven on earth for themselves. They don't have to wait until they die to do it. And then the third film,
00:54:48.850 --> 00:55:07.690 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: the working title of that is, can't make this shit up, and I know maybe i'm not supposed to swear, but but but it's actually showing it's It's intended to be a research healing study with veterans of post traumatic stress and sexual trauma, and we take them through an immersion of a twelve week immersion program,
00:55:08.120 --> 00:55:22.059 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: and we will document them and showcase what's possible, and how we can empower these people to set themselves free from their trauma, using holistic modalities in energy based medicine.
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:41.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Beautiful, beautiful! Well, Jennifer, it it's been a pleasure having you on the on the show today. Um, we're We're coming near the end. I I just I would be remiss if I did not ask you if people want to learn more about you. Um get in touch with you. What's your website? Where can people find out more information about the movie?
00:55:41.640 --> 00:55:56.059 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: Um. My website is Jennifer Kaufman, dot Com. I'm all over social media as well. Uh, the name of the film is, There's got to be more to life. Um, if you type that in it'll bring you directly to rise and thrive productions where the film is. Um
00:55:56.070 --> 00:56:13.970 Jennifer Kauffman | Rise and Thrive: is they are now. The first film is ready to go. And um yeah, that's where people can find me and and learn more. I just started a master Class series on Thrive now to inspire encouraging, empower people to take their power back and to rise up to thrive.
00:56:13.980 --> 00:56:32.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, not someday. But today we're wonderful, Jennifer. It's been a pleasure having you on the show again. Uh Jennifer Kaufmanncom That's Kaufmann is spelled with two F. So K. Au f m a n um, and uh the the movie there's got to be more to life.
00:56:32.410 --> 00:56:46.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Uh I think it's just got to be more to life that there's got to be more than two life dot com. You can also find it highly recommended. Jennifer. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy day to come on my show today. I truly appreciate you.
00:56:46.760 --> 00:57:16.699 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you is a pleasure being with you today, Sam. Wonderful! Thank you so much, and of course, as always. Thank you. My loyal listeners, especially Patty and Sonia. Thank you for for tuning in today, and I know there are more people out there listening. Live. And if you're listening on Kmt: Thank you so much for tuning in and listening. Please feel free to reach out to me, email me. Let me know what you think. You can always reach me at Sam, at talk radio dot Nyc.
00:57:16.710 --> 00:57:34.129 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Uh let me know what kinds of topics, and guess you'd love for me to have on in the future hooked up with guests until July. But I got some really fascinating, interesting people coming on uh in in the next few months. So thank you all for tuning in. We will talk to you all next week.
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