WHAT WILL THE AUDIENCE LEARN?
How does she do it all? What can WE do to help? I have so, so many questions...let's dive in!
Every Single Creature
Who would you call if you stumbled onto an injured swan in your pool or a deer which may have been struck by a car? What would you do if you found a wounded mouse or a raccoon with a limp?
Well, our guest Lisa Jaeger is the one who gets those calls and responds to them too! Her unparalleled conviction and limitless dedication to the voiceless are no doubt also directly correlated to her mega success in real estate. She rescues wildlife and runs a rescue and in her spare time is the number one producer for Elliman on Long Island, NY.
How does she do it all? What can WE do to help? I have so, so many questions...let's dive in!
Valerie starts the show by thanking their guest, Lisa Jaeger, for helping her when she encountered a stray cat and kittens. Lisa talks about the work she does rescuing wildlife as a volunteer for companies like Sweetbriar Nature Center, the Evelyn Alexander Wildlife Rescue, and the Star Foundation. She rescues and transports injured animals to the centers. She then talks about her successful career in real estate which she does in addition to spending 40 hours a week rescuing animals. Lisa talks about balancing her real estate career with her work in animal rescuing.
Tommy gives a more detailed introduction to Lisa. Lisa speaks about her passion for getting domestic animals adopted. She also talks about the flaws in most animal shelters. She then talks about the importance of getting animals fixed so that more animals do not end up on the streets. She also brings up the political issues with this that relate to where the money is going.
Lisa speaks about the cat named Ziggy that she saved. Valerie talks about the growth she has seen in Tommy’s animal advocacy. Lisa talks about the importance of saying something if you see an animal that seems hurt or out of place. Lisa then talks about how texting and driving puts animals in danger.
Lisa gives a list of some of the inventory she keeps in her truck which includes gloves, a chainsaw, a hydraulic jack, a crowbar, and a net. She then gives examples how she would save baby ducklings in a sewer, an injured owl, and a racoon. She mentions that she is no longer allowed to rescue racoons because the state of New York wants them to be shot by the DEC. Lisa can be reached by text at (631) 828-9630 or email at email@example.com. Valerie plugs the compassion awards.
00:00:52.890 --> 00:01:04.800 Tommy D: And we are back it's your boy Tommy D, the nonprofit sector connector my comrade my everything in advocacy when it comes to animals my Pal.
00:01:05.550 --> 00:01:20.610 Tommy D: This show is nothing without valerie's idea and creation and we call the show pounds you're professionals and animal lovers show what's up out what is going on kid I am side.
00:01:22.500 --> 00:01:22.710 Tommy D: What.
00:01:23.370 --> 00:01:34.530 Valerie Heffron: i'm beyond excited it's really good i'm trying to share this live sorry everybody watching it, but I am so excited I mean i've already like texted people i'm like guess what i've covered on the show today.
00:01:35.700 --> 00:01:42.930 Valerie Heffron: um you know i've said this before we say pretty much every week that the bond between animal lovers is incredibly strong.
00:01:43.410 --> 00:01:54.420 Valerie Heffron: And I want to say it's almost instant and I love, I, like the people i'm meeting are just incredible same with you Tommy I know you're meeting some joy dropping people.
00:01:54.780 --> 00:02:07.170 Valerie Heffron: And I just wanted before we even get started, I just want to give a heartfelt thank you to our guest Lisa Jaeger because I was in a situation and i'm not very well versed.
00:02:07.620 --> 00:02:18.780 Valerie Heffron: With things like trapping and i'm well versed in T and are like as a policy and whatnot but i'm not well versed in the physical the actual execution of it, you know.
00:02:18.870 --> 00:02:22.560 Tommy D: not always because you're you're not always on the front lines, like some people.
00:02:23.970 --> 00:02:24.240 Tommy D: Right.
00:02:24.720 --> 00:02:29.550 Valerie Heffron: And right and quite honestly I mean like these people are my heroes, but.
00:02:29.670 --> 00:02:32.160 Valerie Heffron: it's funny because, like I said I thought I knew.
00:02:32.220 --> 00:02:39.840 Valerie Heffron: A decent amount, you know what I mean like I had a drop trap once I used it, I was successful at that, but this one was a little bit more complex.
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00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:47.010 Tommy D: What happened, why did you need help out, I mean not everybody's following you on Facebook, not everybody knows the story.
00:02:48.060 --> 00:02:58.350 Tommy D: gang check it out, this is real life stuff, this is not about textbook, this is it baby, this is the professionals, an animal lover show vow you live in what happened.
00:02:59.250 --> 00:03:14.850 Valerie Heffron: Well, so we moved a couple years ago and that's part of my challenge I don't have my network, where I am so if this happened in our old house and baldwin I would have had like 10 people if it a call, some of them Tommy you've met through here john D.
00:03:16.380 --> 00:03:18.930 Tommy D: baldwin shout out Franklin square I held a.
00:03:18.990 --> 00:03:27.480 Valerie Heffron: craft whatever I could have caught, you know, and they would have come to my house and help me but um anyway, we were property hunting and.
00:03:28.230 --> 00:03:47.310 Valerie Heffron: vacant land and out of left field, you know this this cat just appeared out of nowhere and came meowing over to me and I was like oh my God like there's like nothing it's like what you know and so right, then, and there I was like we have to help her, we have to track her we have.
00:03:48.450 --> 00:03:57.630 Tommy D: is not one of those things where it's like dude I get a show every single week when i'm talking about this stuff of course i'm going to get involved, I mean like something.
00:03:59.100 --> 00:03:59.550 Tommy D: Like now.
00:03:59.580 --> 00:04:00.630 I remember I texted you know.
00:04:01.770 --> 00:04:06.420 Tommy D: there's not right and you're like this is what I do like this is like the calling remember and will tell.
00:04:06.450 --> 00:04:14.310 Tommy D: You another story about what I want to tell later, but remember Friday night when I texted you because somebody in my world did something on the animal advocacy space Friday night and.
00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:15.000 Tommy D: It was like.
00:04:15.420 --> 00:04:25.980 Tommy D: And I was saying to myself to 945 at night i've been out this whole life thing all day, but this young person in my life was like you gotta we gotta get involved, so this has changed, which.
00:04:26.700 --> 00:04:37.230 Valerie Heffron: Is where it's instant, and so I felt this responsibility for this beautiful animal she was so friendly she does not deserve to live and outdoor life worrying about.
00:04:37.650 --> 00:04:44.970 Valerie Heffron: Everything from predators to you know fleas and ticks and getting run over by a car or whatever so.
00:04:45.780 --> 00:04:56.550 Valerie Heffron: I went back later and with the intention of trapping her, I found out a lot of information between that point, and when we went back and where to go and we bought a trap, and all this stuff.
00:04:56.970 --> 00:05:04.680 Valerie Heffron: And then she came out again, and she started like rolling over, and I saw that she had well there's really no other word for it, you have nibbles.
00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:09.420 Valerie Heffron: So, now that crushes me right, I was just like oh no so.
00:05:09.960 --> 00:05:24.000 Valerie Heffron: um you know I reached out to another person, and it was do traps and they were like yeah she's nursing and i'm like oh my God, so now, what I do right, you can take the mom away from kittens the kittens will die, so it was like this whole big thing, but the point is that.
00:05:24.690 --> 00:05:35.190 Valerie Heffron: I found an assembled a team rather quickly, thank God for Facebook and then I was like i've never tried to mom and kittens before what the hell do I do who do I trust first.
00:05:35.640 --> 00:05:42.900 Valerie Heffron: How do I tell how old the kittens are, how do I know if i've gotten all the kittens like I was, like all these questions is like rapid gunfire in my head.
00:05:43.380 --> 00:05:59.520 Valerie Heffron: You know what I mean and like what kind of equipment Do I need to I try to trap everybody in the same trap like that seems impossible so as much as I think I know you realize in a situation, how much you don't know, but because of people like Lisa finally going to get to Lisa sorry.
00:06:00.210 --> 00:06:01.260 Valerie Heffron: I was like.
00:06:01.440 --> 00:06:13.200 Valerie Heffron: she's an expert i'm going to call her and and be like what the hell do I do, and let me tell you, she not only wish you'd like telling me what to do, then she texted me like a reinforcement message.
00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:20.820 Valerie Heffron: And then yesterday when I called she called me up and I told her what happened, she was so happy for me, because it was a successful mission.
00:06:21.060 --> 00:06:37.800 Valerie Heffron: And like so happy for the animals and these people are my heroes, and these are the people because Lisa is also in real estate and she is a top producer, you know we want these people to be successful, because they're helping the animals.
00:06:38.400 --> 00:06:39.300 Valerie Heffron: Welcome to the show.
00:06:42.420 --> 00:06:43.950 Tommy D: hey Lisa how are you Oh well.
00:06:44.130 --> 00:06:51.600 Lisa Jaeger: Let me, let me just clarify I love that she said that you know and along the way she was learning and that we're experts.
00:06:52.380 --> 00:07:03.360 Lisa Jaeger: We are learning every day, as long as we been 510 1520 years you learn something new, every day, and you know we're not really experts, we.
00:07:03.840 --> 00:07:08.580 Lisa Jaeger: We do a lot, and we know most but we don't always know everything.
00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:18.750 Lisa Jaeger: But it was textbook how they caught those kittens so you could put a truck you could put fish, you could put Sam and you could put lobster in that trap that cats are going in that trap.
00:07:19.290 --> 00:07:30.270 Lisa Jaeger: But if you take a kid carrier with the kittens and put the trap up against the carrier that mother will go in that trap to get her kids it's one of the easiest textbook ways to catch a mother and kittens.
00:07:30.690 --> 00:07:38.070 Lisa Jaeger: And it was when I heard that when she sent me a picture of the mother nursing the kittens i'm like oh yeah I mean great.
00:07:40.860 --> 00:07:51.300 Valerie Heffron: Around we're also happy and again this is, I mean I hear what you're saying, because Tommy sometimes refers to be his like his his mentor or you know, whatever, but like.
00:07:51.600 --> 00:08:00.660 Valerie Heffron: i'm learning from people like you, we all learn from each other and it's a network right, so I all I can say is that.
00:08:01.650 --> 00:08:06.120 Valerie Heffron: Even the other people that were with me, we had two other women and and my husband.
00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:20.040 Valerie Heffron: We were just all so relieved because it's just you know no life for them out there, but I want to also get to the fact that, so there are definitely a lot of trappers who trap mostly cats cats and kittens.
00:08:20.880 --> 00:08:36.180 Valerie Heffron: But Lisa is a wildlife rescuer with with mind blowing saves and I already can predict the time to Nice is going to offer a day of service to you because he's dying to put some waiters on and hop into some water I.
00:08:36.210 --> 00:08:48.990 Tommy D: don't even get me started i'm just trying to stay on mute so you can actually have a conversation and i'm not like pushing my partner my way, but at least I did hear that you have waiters and you go out and like save some foul life and stuff right is that true.
00:08:49.230 --> 00:08:55.350 Lisa Jaeger: Yes, but as I said, you're always learning don't ever lean forward and waiters in 20 degree water.
00:08:57.540 --> 00:08:57.870 Valerie Heffron: killing.
00:09:00.510 --> 00:09:10.560 Lisa Jaeger: me with my rescue jacket, and the waiters on going into get a duck that was tethered to some fishing line and the water was coming up, and he was going on there and.
00:09:11.760 --> 00:09:21.780 Lisa Jaeger: He kept trying to get away from me and I was like I have like this much room left and then all of a sudden, I like I had to grab him and I leaned forward as my waiters.
00:09:22.770 --> 00:09:27.180 Tommy D: Lisa Lisa they say in life, sometimes you just gotta lean in but.
00:09:27.210 --> 00:09:28.500 Tommy D: that's not what they meant.
00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:31.770 Valerie Heffron: Oh, my God.
00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:34.680 Tommy D: I love your office, by the way.
00:09:34.890 --> 00:09:36.960 Tommy D: i'm sorry I cut you off I love your office, I see.
00:09:37.020 --> 00:09:37.860 Lisa Jaeger: your mind a.
00:09:38.190 --> 00:09:42.570 Tommy D: little bit of me because I like to have pictures me around because i'm a big fan of Tommy do.
00:09:47.040 --> 00:09:48.720 Tommy D: I see because you have pictures of you to.
00:09:50.310 --> 00:09:57.900 Lisa Jaeger: me is my one daughter who's in California and my other daughter my grandchildren, who are here, live with me so a little bit of everything.
00:09:58.020 --> 00:10:00.480 Valerie Heffron: um I love it well.
00:10:00.750 --> 00:10:11.520 Lisa Jaeger: The most part, I do wildlife and I have the fun part I actually get to get my hands dirty I actually get to do the hands on the waiters on.
00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:19.650 Lisa Jaeger: The next I get to you know crawling the sewer and grab the the little you know little ducks at fulton super great so.
00:10:20.370 --> 00:10:21.930 Lisa Jaeger: I get to pick up the deer.
00:10:21.990 --> 00:10:26.910 Lisa Jaeger: That are injured and wrap them up and take them to the rescue Center so for the most part.
00:10:27.390 --> 00:10:42.090 Lisa Jaeger: I am a wildlife rehabilitator but I don't really do the rehabilitation part much, much often so what my task is is I work for volunteer for companies like sweet briar nature Center in smithtown.
00:10:42.690 --> 00:10:50.970 Lisa Jaeger: On the Evelyn Alexander wildlife rescue Center in Hampton bays and I do a lot of work for the star foundation little island, so if there's an injured and all.
00:10:51.300 --> 00:11:01.140 Lisa Jaeger: That needs to be transported and someone can transport or they're afraid to pick it up or so they call me I pick I go there, I stabilize it.
00:11:02.040 --> 00:11:10.950 Lisa Jaeger: I contain it I bring it to one of those centers depending on who's closest who called me and I let them do the hard works, so I actually get to do the fun work.
00:11:11.310 --> 00:11:12.630 Tommy D: I mean you have like.
00:11:12.870 --> 00:11:15.300 Tommy D: I saw your truck is like.
00:11:16.170 --> 00:11:19.920 Tommy D: you're like you're a professional realtor like that's what you do.
00:11:20.160 --> 00:11:22.740 Lisa Jaeger: Now, on the number one agent on long island for the.
00:11:22.740 --> 00:11:24.210 Lisa Jaeger: Number one company and.
00:11:24.420 --> 00:11:25.860 Tommy D: Where do you pompoms get the.
00:11:26.400 --> 00:11:27.480 Lisa Jaeger: thing I got my home.
00:11:27.690 --> 00:11:36.570 Lisa Jaeger: So I was been like in the top 10 you know the past 1520 years but I actually hit number one this year, and it was kind of hard to.
00:11:37.830 --> 00:11:41.460 Lisa Jaeger: My do 40 hours a week and rescue on top of my real estate.
00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:50.160 Lisa Jaeger: But here's the thing I love, what I do I love real estate and I love animals.
00:11:50.550 --> 00:11:58.920 Lisa Jaeger: yeah get up every morning and I just can't wait to meet my next client pick up my next goose you know it's like what am I gonna.
00:11:59.100 --> 00:12:03.480 Lisa Jaeger: So, again, I mean, I do have a long finger zest for life than most people.
00:12:03.750 --> 00:12:10.890 Valerie Heffron: I have to ask you why right because, and I love see there is this kind of misnomer out there, I believe.
00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:24.930 Valerie Heffron: that a lot of people feel that you know cat people or animals people here Korean people not just crazy, but like i'm not successful.
00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:37.650 Valerie Heffron: Right so there's this myth, where it's like because they get all their money away, they think, give all their money to the rescues or they pay for all the self care and and they just can't buy guess you know successfully saved.
00:12:37.950 --> 00:12:49.830 Lisa Jaeger: wow That is very true that is very true and i'll tell you why because no offense or anything to people with money, but people who are all about the money, money, money that's their God.
00:12:50.310 --> 00:12:56.640 Lisa Jaeger: i'm focused on that you know listen i'm 58 years old, we were.
00:12:56.670 --> 00:12:57.690 Valerie Heffron: Well yeah.
00:12:58.290 --> 00:13:01.830 Lisa Jaeger: I am, we were raised to we were raised to.
00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:14.760 Lisa Jaeger: go to school graduate get a job get a husband get a house and collect as much stuff, as you can That was my generation, so that that generation is still so focused on.
00:13:15.180 --> 00:13:22.740 Lisa Jaeger: Building wealth and building they don't have time for anything else it's the people who have a lot of time on their hands, who don't have a lot of money.
00:13:23.070 --> 00:13:29.880 Lisa Jaeger: And and don't have the greatest jobs and and are more family oriented and aren't you know focused on the money.
00:13:30.210 --> 00:13:40.260 Lisa Jaeger: that are more compassionate it says that they're more compassionate they're more aware because they're they're looking outside the box, I think, and those are the people that I think really.
00:13:41.190 --> 00:13:49.800 Lisa Jaeger: dedicate a lot of their time and and and all of their money true a lot of them go broke they go hungry feed the Feral cats out of their houses so.
00:13:49.980 --> 00:13:54.300 Valerie Heffron: You can easily do that, and you know what though I do see that.
00:13:55.020 --> 00:14:05.490 Valerie Heffron: I mean, I can think of a lot of people at the top of my head who who are successful and who are also helping animals they've just found a way to balance it kind of Like you, I mean like.
00:14:05.970 --> 00:14:17.400 Valerie Heffron: I don't know how you did I know how competitive and and really we all have friends in real estate and stuff I like it is a super competitive world that will suck every minute of your day if you allow it to right.
00:14:18.330 --> 00:14:18.780 Lisa Jaeger: allow it.
00:14:19.380 --> 00:14:26.760 Valerie Heffron: right but but it's one thing to have the balance it's another thing to do everything you do for the animals and be a top producer.
00:14:27.990 --> 00:14:28.380 Valerie Heffron: Real.
00:14:28.410 --> 00:14:29.220 Valerie Heffron: chuka chuka.
00:14:31.650 --> 00:14:32.310 Tommy D: chuka cobre.
00:14:32.340 --> 00:14:35.070 Lisa Jaeger: it's not it's not easy to balance, sometimes I mean I have.
00:14:36.780 --> 00:14:42.900 Lisa Jaeger: I have four o'clock appointment yesterday to show a condo and it's 330 I got a call in port Jefferson that there was a.
00:14:44.460 --> 00:14:49.380 Lisa Jaeger: medium sized phone down, so I called my client and they will everybody knows what.
00:14:50.880 --> 00:14:57.750 Tommy D: To do your people right so we're going to pause because I want to hear about what happened from 330 to 430 yesterday afternoon because you how to make it all work so don't tell me now.
00:14:58.050 --> 00:15:08.970 Tommy D: This is a cliffhanger so like when like Dallas like a two part Dallas episode from like yes, and it was like one episode and then you have to wait till next Friday night we're going to only keep it like 90 seconds to do that.
00:15:10.050 --> 00:15:12.450 Tommy D: who's that, by the way, there goes to break valve who's that.
00:15:13.800 --> 00:15:14.760 Lisa Jaeger: Oh, my God.
00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:16.410 Lisa Jaeger: Somebody.
00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:27.390 Tommy D: Oh, my goodness guys and gals and everybody she's talking about the cat right it's not talking about me or anybody else on this usually refer.
00:15:27.510 --> 00:15:27.900 Lisa Jaeger: To the cat.
00:15:28.290 --> 00:15:30.000 Tommy D: I don't miss a whole lot of meals either, but we're not.
00:15:30.030 --> 00:15:38.460 Tommy D: Talking about me alright we're going to pause right here, I do want to say one thing before we pause because my it takes two minutes for me to go over the break so dylan i'm sorry dylan our producer.
00:15:39.750 --> 00:15:44.280 Tommy D: Because you're saying to Lisa about how do you do it all, and you have it all in the whole thing at the end of.
00:15:45.780 --> 00:15:54.960 Tommy D: At the end of Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory Charlie bucket takes the everlasting God stopper and gives it back to Willie because you just got the factory, the whole thing.
00:15:55.470 --> 00:15:59.670 Tommy D: Right and he says to him, he goes you Charlie Do you know what happened.
00:16:00.090 --> 00:16:05.490 Tommy D: To the little boy who got everything you ever wanted, and you know what he Charlie doesn't know when Willy Wonka says.
00:16:05.820 --> 00:16:14.490 Tommy D: He lived happily ever after so you can have it all you just have to navigate you can be a top notch producer in real estate on long island.
00:16:14.820 --> 00:16:24.780 Tommy D: And you can be out in waiters in 20 degree water that's a whole nother thing Lisa Lisa when I volunteer for that it will be in the spring, maybe the fall, it will, I will not be in.
00:16:26.370 --> 00:16:27.780 Lisa Jaeger: January, knowing.
00:16:28.110 --> 00:16:31.920 Tommy D: You know what my birthday is in January, maybe we'll do for my birthday we're gonna take a quick break.
00:16:32.010 --> 00:16:32.370 Valerie Heffron: It took.
00:16:32.400 --> 00:16:38.550 Tommy D: Two minutes to get to the break this is the professionals and animal lovers show i'm the nonprofit sector connector we'll be right back.
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00:18:53.580 --> 00:19:00.930 Tommy D: And we're back in i'm busy like playing on Facebook looking at a red tail Hawk so you all just kind of have to deal with it that's how the show goes.
00:19:01.950 --> 00:19:09.030 Tommy D: wow Lisa Jaeger as in the drink that I drank too many times in my 20s Mr.
00:19:10.050 --> 00:19:13.590 Tommy D: I was told that that's how you pronounce it Jaeger not Jager like yes.
00:19:13.800 --> 00:19:22.380 Tommy D: Alright, so we're thrilled to have you on here top producing realtor I want to read something that I know you have questions so hang tight because I want to just read.
00:19:22.800 --> 00:19:30.720 Tommy D: off of what we what we have prepared recovered transports assist in rehabilitation of second abandoned in your wildlife and domestic animals.
00:19:31.380 --> 00:19:44.310 Tommy D: She has a great love for animals her mission is to get injured wildlife into the right hand broker facilitate get those animals, where they need to go it doesn't necessarily mean Lisa has all the answers, no one has all the answers as we're talking about here.
00:19:44.700 --> 00:19:54.390 Tommy D: The matter is connect with the right people get to the right resources, she also space neuters socializes and adopts i'm.
00:19:55.080 --> 00:20:04.440 Tommy D: I don't know if we have this right and adopt over 100 cats and kittens do you mean you get them adopted or do you adopt 100 cats and kittens every year because that's a pretty big sanctuary you would have.
00:20:04.500 --> 00:20:05.250 Lisa Jaeger: To yeah no.
00:20:05.580 --> 00:20:20.760 Lisa Jaeger: I get them adopted so for for the most part i'm from November through like the end of April I help in the tea in our Community, because my clients at that point, are all hibernating you know I don't have a lot of why.
00:20:22.770 --> 00:20:32.610 Lisa Jaeger: I kind of dabbled in the whole cat industry and and it got overwhelming and I realized how overwhelming it is I don't feel any cat belongs outside.
00:20:33.180 --> 00:20:33.750 Valerie Heffron: I think.
00:20:34.650 --> 00:20:48.360 Lisa Jaeger: I think it's a horrible situation when dealing with these animals are they're given birth to in the spring, and they have to spend their lives out there, with no medication no fleet treatment, no food, most of them die it's horrible and.
00:20:48.600 --> 00:20:49.590 Tommy D: The most right.
00:20:49.740 --> 00:20:52.170 Lisa Jaeger: domestic animals, they are.
00:20:52.260 --> 00:20:57.360 Lisa Jaeger: Absolutely domestic animals and with the tax dollars that we pay, we should be able to walk into.
00:20:57.450 --> 00:21:08.790 Lisa Jaeger: Any brookhaven animal shelter riverhead Southampton islip we should be able to walk into any one of those animal shelters, with a Feral or a stray cat and say fix it.
00:21:09.120 --> 00:21:17.820 Lisa Jaeger: When I can pick it up, there should be on site veterinarians five days a week, only six months there wouldn't be one Feral cat on long.
00:21:17.820 --> 00:21:29.190 Tommy D: Island that's not because, again, I always try to be the one who doesn't know because most of the time I don't know, especially on this show but i'm learning what that so that is not the experience tell us about.
00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:29.820 Lisa Jaeger: If you.
00:21:31.140 --> 00:21:51.000 Lisa Jaeger: If you are not going to pick any animal shelter i'm gonna just pick any random animal shelter hi my name is Mary Jones there's a female cat on there, my shed with six kittens I don't know what to do, sorry we don't do cats click OK so animal shelter bullshit.
00:21:53.580 --> 00:21:56.670 Tommy D: But now, but I curse a lot, so now you just broke the seal.
00:21:58.110 --> 00:22:11.460 Lisa Jaeger: Animal shelter if it's not a dog they won't take it and and if it is a dog, they want to make sure that it's not your dog because let's say somebody just can't take his dog anymore, because.
00:22:12.510 --> 00:22:20.100 Lisa Jaeger: I want to survive in my dog they won't, but they will you do that it's kind of bizarre like I don't know why they call it an animal shelter.
00:22:20.340 --> 00:22:22.440 Valerie Heffron: Is an oxymoron I know.
00:22:22.770 --> 00:22:33.270 Lisa Jaeger: Right, the only time the animals, I see the animal shelters really get involved, and God bless the people that work there because it's not them it's the politicians that tie their hands.
00:22:33.540 --> 00:22:41.400 Lisa Jaeger: And don't let them do what they want to do, because they don't really get paid much and they work their butts off and they can't help people with cats.
00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:50.370 Lisa Jaeger: The thing that just absolutely kills me is the only time they will get involved is like we had a situation of hoarding situation where I picked up a mother cat.
00:22:50.640 --> 00:23:03.210 Lisa Jaeger: In a wire cage was no bottom laying on the ground, she had already given birth to her two kids and there was another one coming out so we called the aspca we got in touch with the dean's office they.
00:23:04.080 --> 00:23:10.800 Lisa Jaeger: went in close the House out, we found we found kittens with placentas still attached laying on the floor still alive.
00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:25.290 Lisa Jaeger: We wrap them, I mean what we got them to a fat, most of them survived, but the only time that these shelters will take these animals if it is their court ordered and then they'll take 30 cats in and put that it's.
00:23:25.530 --> 00:23:29.130 Valerie Heffron: Will I told you also see so speaking of bullshit.
00:23:29.940 --> 00:23:36.720 Valerie Heffron: um you know, one of the things that really, really gets me, and I agree with you, for the most part, the one thing I would say is.
00:23:36.780 --> 00:23:45.510 Valerie Heffron: I do believe that there's good and bad employees in most shelters, because a lot of the employees, the ones with a better pay a lot of the supervisory ones are.
00:23:45.810 --> 00:23:59.940 Valerie Heffron: patronage jobs i'll say it it's pay to play they're contributing to the party in power they get a nice job they get great benefits, and you know you don't even have to be an animal lover to work in an animal shelter that said.
00:24:01.860 --> 00:24:20.100 Valerie Heffron: That the Hempstead shelter, because that was my former township you know they spent, and this is, this is what kills me it's taxpayer dollars, so they spend 220 7000 of your taxpayer dollars to purchase a state of the art brand new mobile spay neuter then.
00:24:22.500 --> 00:24:23.010 Valerie Heffron: years.
00:24:23.370 --> 00:24:34.110 Valerie Heffron: Seven years when it was delivered to them had 1300 miles on it and fast forward to last year and had under 2000 miles so it's not being used it's rotting it's collecting dust.
00:24:34.350 --> 00:24:48.870 Valerie Heffron: And people like you or another trapper or another, shelter, who actually does try to get out into the Community and do the right thing and author low cost or free spay neuter would kill for that vehicle you know what i'm saying if.
00:24:49.320 --> 00:25:00.930 Tommy D: You go back at least, if I can interrupt to your shirt again, I just want to take it, because this is i'm hearing this as not Lisa or Valerie I might be hearing this for the first time, so I want to go back, I sometimes have to pull us back.
00:25:01.650 --> 00:25:04.200 Tommy D: What are we asking the the point here is.
00:25:04.770 --> 00:25:16.200 Tommy D: there's too many animals out there, and if we don't get involved spay and neuter, then there will just be more and more animals out there, so what we're asking for right is is the opportunity.
00:25:16.530 --> 00:25:30.270 Tommy D: to decrease these babies that are being born out there into this federal community into this living on the street Community right like that's we're talking about basic, fundamental stuff let's decrease the right to start.
00:25:30.510 --> 00:25:31.260 Lisa Jaeger: Correct so.
00:25:33.060 --> 00:25:36.090 Lisa Jaeger: we're running on a hamster wheel, and when I say that.
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:47.730 Lisa Jaeger: I need and neutered and adopted out so last year, I think, from November until the end of June, I did 147 Castle together, most of them I picked up.
00:25:49.230 --> 00:25:59.100 Lisa Jaeger: Trapped broken to spay and neuter or to a mobile clinic had them fixed I recuperate them at my house for five days, and then I put them back out.
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:12.750 Lisa Jaeger: I did 125 i'm one person okay there's there's over 1000 people on long island doing what i'm doing right now times that by 125 and guess what we're not even making a dent.
00:26:12.840 --> 00:26:28.530 Lisa Jaeger: And Coleman killed us all the all the gloss prospect clicks shut down i'm working right so Jenny Luca is it heavy is the head of the dnr program at brookhaven and listen she's doing she's wonderful.
00:26:31.860 --> 00:26:40.560 Lisa Jaeger: She sets up his mobile clinic four times a year to go to a certain location and they spend a noon or 50 or 60 cats a day.
00:26:40.770 --> 00:26:53.670 Lisa Jaeger: But that's only like four times a year, if you want to get a spay or neuter certificate, you have to go down to brookhaven you have to get the certificate they tell you what day to bring the cat in how are you supposed to don't forget to catch the cat is federal.
00:26:54.390 --> 00:26:55.080 Lisa Jaeger: One cat.
00:26:55.200 --> 00:27:02.850 Lisa Jaeger: When I do when I do cats I get 1015 at a time I 14 cats in chicken traps in the back of that hummer I.
00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:06.240 Valerie Heffron: funny you're saying her name I just heard her name for the first.
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:23.130 Valerie Heffron: Time two or three days ago I saw her post critical of the brookhaven shelter and I give her so much credit, because a lot of times, people say silent, because they don't want their they fear things like retribution or or you know them being attacked, you know what I mean.
00:27:23.220 --> 00:27:24.930 Valerie Heffron: She doesn't care, you want to know why.
00:27:24.990 --> 00:27:26.640 Lisa Jaeger: Its position.
00:27:27.270 --> 00:27:29.550 Valerie Heffron: So I go screw themselves because.
00:27:30.840 --> 00:27:39.390 Lisa Jaeger: If they get rid of her nobody else wants it from strong island animal rescue dinner for the longest time but you know it's just a thankless job.
00:27:39.660 --> 00:27:40.200 Valerie Heffron: And again.
00:27:40.260 --> 00:27:41.880 Lisa Jaeger: it's like you're on a hamster wheel.
00:27:42.600 --> 00:27:45.330 Tommy D: Rescue called strong island animal rescue.
00:27:45.630 --> 00:27:46.440 Lisa Jaeger: There is.
00:27:47.070 --> 00:27:57.300 Tommy D: I love that I love our island strong island and if you're not from the island or you're from the five boroughs you want to give us a hard time about it, it is called strong island that's how we represent out here right value.
00:27:57.630 --> 00:28:04.170 Valerie Heffron: Right reason, and I want to just make this one point I know if you get a break, or what I hate breaks sorry guys, but I do and so.
00:28:04.410 --> 00:28:17.670 Valerie Heffron: One of one of the things that i've tried to communicate to people who maybe they're not animal lovers or they're just not interested in this issue is that they will become interested in this issue when they start finding dead kittens in there and we'll well.
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:18.450 Valerie Heffron: In their.
00:28:18.780 --> 00:28:24.240 Valerie Heffron: role and winter and when your block start smelling like Kathy.
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:33.810 Valerie Heffron: Because there's so many you know cats out there and there and they're spraying their territory or you have a neighbor who becomes a hoarder because they start off.
00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:41.550 Valerie Heffron: Being good hearted and they just want to feed some cats and the next thing you know they have 50 or 75 paths in their house and you can enjoy your own backyard.
00:28:41.670 --> 00:28:55.470 Valerie Heffron: You know this is everyone's problem and, like Lisa said yesterday, you know the taxes on long island are pretty substantial, especially when you compare them to other places there is plenty of money to help yeah.
00:28:56.460 --> 00:29:07.200 Lisa Jaeger: plenty of money and I don't know what the numbers are but somebody started foiling money that was put aside for this, and it was like $50,000 a year.
00:29:07.620 --> 00:29:18.480 Lisa Jaeger: And they were giving up in Spain or certificates and when it wasn't used up, they took it and rolled it back into the general fund it didn't go back into like they have the money, but.
00:29:19.650 --> 00:29:22.020 Lisa Jaeger: They have the money it's it's all political.
00:29:23.550 --> 00:29:24.900 Tommy D: that's what the shows about Lisa.
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:35.850 Tommy D: it's about punching things in the arm it's about getting the word out it's about educating people I mean September 1 of 2021 I knew, none of this.
00:29:36.750 --> 00:29:44.880 Tommy D: And now I know a bit more than non and I don't do that self deprecating I just do it as as you both said early on this program today it's about learning it's about getting more.
00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:55.110 Tommy D: We talk about three things we talked about educating learning and advocating that's what this program is all about and that's the shot in the arm it's given me, and I think it's given many other people is it's education piece.
00:29:55.380 --> 00:30:03.150 Tommy D: We do have to take a break, because it's part of the show value as much as you hate it I get it, you know, we need a new show called the run on show with Valentine.
00:30:03.420 --> 00:30:03.960 Tommy D: You just talk.
00:30:04.050 --> 00:30:06.060 Tommy D: For five hours, like like somebody.
00:30:06.900 --> 00:30:10.200 Tommy D: Yes, that's what it's like they just go on until they run out of breath.
00:30:10.230 --> 00:30:16.800 Valerie Heffron: When we come back, I want, I want to go into the educational component, because I know it's important to Lisa and it's certainly important to us.
00:30:17.220 --> 00:30:20.640 Tommy D: let's do it, I do want to hear about this big old yellow Homer.
00:30:20.730 --> 00:30:21.120 That.
00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:34.170 Tommy D: So we gotta get into that to this is the professionals, an animal lover show shout out to make Collins on Facebook hooking us up because he's putting you put League is elise's I took Lisa in Jaeger and put it together it came up a leader, but she couldn't.
00:30:35.340 --> 00:30:40.260 Tommy D: run photos and whatnot on Facebook i'll share a break let's go to break dylan take us to break.
00:30:40.590 --> 00:30:41.520 yeah.
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00:32:43.980 --> 00:32:50.970 Tommy D: boy Tommy the nonprofit sector connector the show is called pals professionals animal lover show directly across from where i'm sitting as a pond.
00:32:51.390 --> 00:32:58.770 Tommy D: i've seen some docs out there, I saw a swan or two i've seen a whole bunch of deer in the last week week and a half, while i've been traveling.
00:32:59.760 --> 00:33:12.840 Tommy D: This afternoon I almost drove off the road to protect a little brown squirrel that was running across the street I become more mindful more educated.
00:33:13.860 --> 00:33:20.520 Tommy D: Certainly, where I am right now that we share this planet with other beings, and we need to be mindful of that it was sort of know.
00:33:21.030 --> 00:33:38.940 Tommy D: Like surprise for me when I got into this work or the at least talking about this work with Valerie because i'm compassionate man I care about people and I care about I care about everything, so this was just another extension and if Val did not force her way into my life in this regard.
00:33:40.470 --> 00:33:41.520 Valerie Heffron: That didn't happen.
00:33:43.560 --> 00:33:55.560 Tommy D: Listen, if you all think that didn't happen go back to a couple episodes where we were working on the fostering of the rabbit and all that type of stuff yet Lisa I wanted I just keep going to say Jaeger instead of Lisa Lisa.
00:33:56.070 --> 00:34:03.180 Tommy D: I just was showing those photos and I saw that one little kitten unfortunately i'm allergic to cats, but they are so cute and that one little kitten to look like.
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:10.830 Tommy D: He or she lost it I, and that was you know said I saw that most pictures let's talk about that and i'm Val wanting to talk about education so let's do it.
00:34:11.430 --> 00:34:12.360 Lisa Jaeger: So that's a nice.
00:34:13.680 --> 00:34:23.010 Lisa Jaeger: camera came to us somebody in ronkonkoma called and said there's one little tiny kitchen in my yard I don't know where it came from it's all alone.
00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:33.540 Lisa Jaeger: In a box and we went and picked it up and where there's one there's more, but unfortunately we looked around couldn't find a mother couldn't find the siblings for them and we actually saved his I.
00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:35.400 Valerie Heffron: Will yay.
00:34:35.520 --> 00:34:43.410 Lisa Jaeger: We actually were able to save his I without any kind of invasive surgery we just we're able to medicate it with thumb bacterial.
00:34:44.850 --> 00:34:56.400 Lisa Jaeger: Best to trace and drops and terminus in, and you know we got him hydrated and and he's actually he was a foster fail my foster took him, and she ends up keeping him and.
00:34:56.700 --> 00:34:59.010 Tommy D: Beautiful she's at all there's a foster fail.
00:34:59.640 --> 00:35:07.020 Lisa Jaeger: Foster fail or somebody who says yell foster the animal for you until you find a home for it, and then they end up keeping the animal.
00:35:07.140 --> 00:35:07.560 Tommy D: that's what i'm.
00:35:08.130 --> 00:35:20.940 Tommy D: All about I think that's what vows moves were you know, like you know persuasion and whatnot I obviously value that force her way into my life everybody knew each other forever point was though values trying to force animals into my life, a little bit.
00:35:23.130 --> 00:35:26.310 Tommy D: i'm looking for she's looking for the good old failure in my world to.
00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:33.030 Valerie Heffron: Well, I will tell you already you know because of.
00:35:34.080 --> 00:35:48.090 Valerie Heffron: We talked about the ripple effect but tommy's one of tommy's children who's just a natural animal lover I, we have to just mention this because I get this phone call from the other night and.
00:35:49.530 --> 00:36:05.160 Valerie Heffron: They were in the car together and tommy's like my son was telling you something i'm like okay what's going on, you know and he's like telling me how they saw this dog just wandering around kind of aimlessly and his son was like pull over the dogs laws.
00:36:05.220 --> 00:36:06.060 Valerie Heffron: And i'm like dude.
00:36:06.570 --> 00:36:10.290 Tommy D: it's like right but it's gotta live right here to just let it it's that's a town.
00:36:10.350 --> 00:36:11.280 Tommy D: yeah yeah.
00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:14.700 Valerie Heffron: So I go, so I go, so what happened right and he turns around and goes.
00:36:14.910 --> 00:36:24.060 Valerie Heffron: Basically, I see the dog's life and like but here's the thing the weirdness and and you know when we give just a little bit people get a taste.
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:31.590 Valerie Heffron: And then they want to know more, and then they want to you know get more involved, and then the next thing you know someone like Tommy to me, Sam who, a year ago.
00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:43.290 Valerie Heffron: You know, like a normal person was not involved in his face he's hosting call nights to for people to call their legislators to ask them to support the puppy mill bell you know what I mean like.
00:36:43.650 --> 00:36:51.510 Valerie Heffron: it's crazy it spreads like wildfire, and so I want this to continue Lisa please tell us, for example.
00:36:52.650 --> 00:37:01.710 Valerie Heffron: The educational component like you had a post about a red tail Hawk saying that you guys are picking them up and it's not even because they're injured, we talked about that.
00:37:04.860 --> 00:37:06.450 Lisa Jaeger: and which one, are you talking about.
00:37:06.540 --> 00:37:19.920 Valerie Heffron: Oh, you had a red tail Hawk a picture of one and you were saying they're they're becoming visibly sick and your message to anyone who can hear it or see it is to please stop poisoning.
00:37:21.750 --> 00:37:22.080 Valerie Heffron: Right.
00:37:22.560 --> 00:37:27.570 Lisa Jaeger: So normally when it comes like I picked up a red tail Hawk this morning before breakfast.
00:37:28.260 --> 00:37:29.220 Lisa Jaeger: And mount Sinai.
00:37:29.340 --> 00:37:30.270 Lisa Jaeger: Actually I picked up.
00:37:30.660 --> 00:37:34.230 Tommy D: that's why you had to qualify which story, it was because you just got.
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.320 Lisa Jaeger: Like four or five a week.
00:37:37.620 --> 00:37:39.180 Lisa Jaeger: You know, depending on what animal I mean.
00:37:40.680 --> 00:37:41.220 Lisa Jaeger: awesome.
00:37:43.140 --> 00:37:46.710 Lisa Jaeger: possum acoustic red tail Hawk and a dear before 11 o'clock so.
00:37:48.540 --> 00:37:51.990 Valerie Heffron: He sold houses at noon went to closing.
00:37:53.790 --> 00:37:54.810 Lisa Jaeger: 11 o'clock I.
00:37:56.490 --> 00:38:01.800 Lisa Jaeger: I balance that I do, but you know I could get five six goals and one day and that's nothing for three days.
00:38:02.670 --> 00:38:09.420 Lisa Jaeger: And so you know, and if I can't like today and you'll notice, one of my Facebook posts today and said hey can anybody out there, help me.
00:38:09.750 --> 00:38:23.400 Lisa Jaeger: I got a goose their deer park he's not getting up Can someone and it just went out to all the rescues and somebody called me and said they're going to get them, you know if I can't make it I post on Facebook, to see if somebody else can get him i'm.
00:38:23.460 --> 00:38:32.430 Lisa Jaeger: Sorry, so a lot of them a lot of the things that you know people don't realize is that a lot of these animals if you see a wild animal.
00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:42.120 Lisa Jaeger: Actively like see a wild animal and it's not moving or it's just standing there looking at your or it's not where it should be there's something wrong with it.
00:38:42.990 --> 00:38:55.110 Lisa Jaeger: And if you're not sure just say hey, you know as soon as Groundhog he was just like sitting on the side of the road and I drove past me and didn't even move if you're not if you see something say something.
00:38:55.500 --> 00:39:06.120 Lisa Jaeger: You know I get people all the time, this this little baby bird fell out of the nest it's hopping all over the place it's good I don't know what to do, should I put it back in the nest and I see doesn't have tail feathers.
00:39:06.870 --> 00:39:21.000 Lisa Jaeger: And they said what are tail feathers it's a little feathers that stick out by their backside you know they have tail feathers and said the mothers teaching and how to fly put it back on the lawn the mother comes down to it, and we'll feed it and within 48 hours that birds flying.
00:39:21.450 --> 00:39:24.570 Valerie Heffron: wow I wouldn't know that I would not do that.
00:39:24.780 --> 00:39:36.240 Lisa Jaeger: Remember tail feathers very important but bird has tail feathers and it looks physically okay it's learning how to fly, but one of the biggest problems we're having with a lot of our wildlife is.
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:48.630 Lisa Jaeger: The hawks are picking them up their their poison their pesticides, the things that we're putting on our lawns the MICE are eating the hawks are eating the MICE.
00:39:50.190 --> 00:39:56.910 Lisa Jaeger: And they're getting poisoned and we need to start stop learning listen if you're going to get a plan hostas.
00:39:57.330 --> 00:40:12.090 Lisa Jaeger: throw some goat cheese and walnuts on there, and some cranberries because that's dear salad that's what they eat so don't play with it, you know you don't like long island go move to the city, you know, like deer and hawks and.
00:40:12.330 --> 00:40:18.600 Tommy D: I was in the bronx and valor and Val and I are met fan so bad I don't know if I told you, I was that big game, but we do.
00:40:19.020 --> 00:40:26.730 Tommy D: If you don't like wildlife, you probably shouldn't go to the bronx because I started with a bunch of wildlife skirting around on the streets of like journal man, you too, and they.
00:40:27.120 --> 00:40:36.480 Tommy D: They were rats that's if people probably picked up when I was talking about shout out to make columns let's go match match match beat the Yankees last night I don't know if anybody saw that and I believe that.
00:40:36.990 --> 00:40:39.630 Valerie Heffron: Great win great and replayed again this evening right well.
00:40:39.900 --> 00:40:43.350 Valerie Heffron: yeah it's it's a it's a two game suddenly series but.
00:40:43.350 --> 00:40:44.790 Valerie Heffron: I got nervous when ideas.
00:40:44.820 --> 00:40:46.020 Valerie Heffron: Maybe are in the night.
00:40:48.630 --> 00:40:49.620 Valerie Heffron: But I digress.
00:40:49.710 --> 00:41:02.040 Valerie Heffron: Getting back to the toxins, you know I also try to tie it in because again there's always people who are like I don't care I don't care I don't care, but they should care, because what they're also doing is it's going into your water.
00:41:02.790 --> 00:41:03.570 Lisa Jaeger: they're poisoning that.
00:41:05.820 --> 00:41:07.170 Lisa Jaeger: you're poisoning their families.
00:41:07.560 --> 00:41:09.060 Valerie Heffron: Right right.
00:41:09.180 --> 00:41:22.620 Lisa Jaeger: Oh, they really are you know when we get this people hate the deer because they eat their greenery which I think is so stupid, but um people have to start paying attention, while they're driving.
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:30.390 Lisa Jaeger: New has got to be I know listen, we all text and drive anybody who says it doesn't don't text and drive is full of S H I T.
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:50.220 Lisa Jaeger: I always tried to pull over you know I you know and do the best, but there should be an APP that's mandatory by the State of New York or California, whatever state you live in the minute you get into a motor vehicle shuts down or you can text me camp, because people are texting and driving.
00:41:50.250 --> 00:42:05.610 Tommy D: And there's just so it's so freakin dangerous and i'm not gonna say I haven't been caught myself doing it, but what drives me bonkers is when you're driving down let's assume it's not traffic time on the expressway and you're driving down the lie, and you look from side to side.
00:42:05.940 --> 00:42:06.120 and
00:42:07.500 --> 00:42:12.480 Tommy D: No one is looking forward like everyone's heads down and they're going 70 miles an hour down the.
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:22.770 Tommy D: expressway like what on earth is going on, you like that's super scary you're saying, though they're not watching out for wildlife i'm saying they're not even watching out for the human beings but let's talk about that.
00:42:23.010 --> 00:42:29.100 Lisa Jaeger: yeah i'll tell it tell you, most of the most of the animals that are being hit our because people are not paying attention, I had a call this morning.
00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:35.880 Lisa Jaeger: on bail me over an ISA talking by the medical area this woman said this this this kusa got hit.
00:42:36.180 --> 00:42:45.660 Lisa Jaeger: And she's limping and she's laying in the middle of the road, I was late for a doctor's appointment I wasn't sure what to do, and I said listen i'm in patchogue right now picking up a Hawk I said, can you.
00:42:45.750 --> 00:42:46.350 Valerie Heffron: pick it up as.
00:42:48.660 --> 00:42:54.570 Lisa Jaeger: I said, can you do me a favor and Sydney leaving a doctor's appointment now suggests and said, can you just drive it just make sure.
00:42:54.930 --> 00:43:11.340 Lisa Jaeger: You tell on your cars, like have a blanket I said throw it over the ghost pick it up and just put it on the lawn i'll be there and a half an hour she calls me back and she's hysterically crying, not only did somebody run that goes over but ran is made over.
00:43:11.610 --> 00:43:22.020 Lisa Jaeger: Oh no those of you who are not aware of geese and swans i'm not talking about ducks i'm talking about decent swans they mate for life.
00:43:23.070 --> 00:43:28.770 Lisa Jaeger: If one is killed the other one will stay in that area for a year waiting for it to come back.
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:29.370 Tommy D: Oh, my.
00:43:29.460 --> 00:43:33.210 Lisa Jaeger: God say sometimes die of loneliness.
00:43:34.110 --> 00:43:41.820 Lisa Jaeger: So I don't understand how we drive our cars and we avoid a pothole but we run over.
00:43:43.050 --> 00:43:48.960 Lisa Jaeger: A goose twice the size to geese twice the size of a Bowling ball in a 30 mile an hour zone, I might add.
00:43:49.170 --> 00:43:50.790 Tommy D: Because people don't some people don't care.
00:43:50.820 --> 00:44:03.480 Lisa Jaeger: Lisa somebody's doing their they're texting and driving they're not paying attention, and you know something I gotta be honest with you i'm really surprised that we haven't had more more instances and more.
00:44:04.620 --> 00:44:10.020 Lisa Jaeger: news stories on people being run over by people because they're not paying that's driving.
00:44:10.050 --> 00:44:20.430 Tommy D: People people have funny to like if you're ever in New York City, you know and you're walking across the street, how many people are literally walking across the street like this and they're like they get hit because they're not even paying attention as they want.
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:29.460 Tommy D: These devices for everything that they might be air quotes because I don't totally believe it's a blessing in some regards there a curse yes these machines.
00:44:29.670 --> 00:44:32.220 Valerie Heffron: it's very good and Yang, but I doubt, no doubt.
00:44:32.580 --> 00:44:34.740 Valerie Heffron: i'll tell you something that always resonated with.
00:44:34.740 --> 00:44:46.740 Valerie Heffron: me from when I was a kid and my I took some karate classes, whatever, but I had a great teacher and one of the things that he said, and it always stuck with me is predators choose their prey.
00:44:47.100 --> 00:45:02.550 Valerie Heffron: And you don't want to be, this is before cell phones, obviously, but you don't want to be distracted you don't want to be the person who who parks their car away from the lights you don't want to be the person who's just with like poor body.
00:45:02.970 --> 00:45:16.110 Valerie Heffron: posture and all of that, because you they are looking to see who's the easiest kill basically so whether it's for a mugging or, worse, you don't want to give off that you're distracted on your phone you.
00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:25.380 Valerie Heffron: Think you're watching a movie whatever people are doing you don't want to do that, you know, especially now in today's day and age, I hate to say it, so I know we have to go to break Okay, but.
00:45:25.740 --> 00:45:27.750 Tommy D: We have to go to break few minutes ago, so.
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:31.230 Valerie Heffron: Again I avoid what I don't like.
00:45:31.470 --> 00:45:31.920 Tommy D: um.
00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:45.480 Valerie Heffron: I want to know from Lisa because on our little mission, just to get some cash I had like a laundry list of stuff to bring with me, it was like we needed a trap, we needed a CRATE we needed a carrier, we needed food we I had gloves.
00:45:46.020 --> 00:45:51.510 Valerie Heffron: There were all these things i'm dying to know what kind of inventory, you have in that truck on a daily basis.
00:45:51.540 --> 00:45:52.440 Lisa Jaeger: Oh okay.
00:45:53.070 --> 00:45:53.760 yeah.
00:45:55.560 --> 00:45:55.980 Lisa Jaeger: I don't know.
00:45:57.060 --> 00:46:00.270 Tommy D: we're still going to break loose, and so they she was setting up one of those cliffhangers.
00:46:00.450 --> 00:46:01.590 Valerie Heffron: This is the second episode of.
00:46:01.680 --> 00:46:03.420 Tommy D: Alice coming up we'll be right back.
00:46:04.650 --> 00:46:06.210 Valerie Heffron: Okay i'm not good at it.
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00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:15.690 Tommy D: Oh it's your vitamin D, this is past, so I kept this picture up because I needed Valerie to see it I didn't know if he stepped away about, but like looking at Lisa and that little baby deer, but it is a deer right Lisa come off mute.
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.920 Tommy D: or unmute you I can't hear you yet.
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:21.270 Valerie Heffron: On no.
00:48:21.420 --> 00:48:22.920 Tommy D: One exactly.
00:48:23.580 --> 00:48:28.140 Lisa Jaeger: yeah that's a full on so we got separated from his mother and we were able to actually.
00:48:29.640 --> 00:48:33.120 Lisa Jaeger: cut through the fence open up the fence and pushing through.
00:48:33.990 --> 00:48:44.100 Tommy D: that's incredible if you're not watching on Facebook go watch later on, because you'll see a lot of these pictures later on, on Facebook, but i'm ELISE and.
00:48:45.330 --> 00:48:49.230 Valerie Heffron: So that's Facebook under Lisa gave her or jaeger's run.
00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:52.350 Lisa Jaeger: Well it's actually both so.
00:48:53.010 --> 00:48:57.360 Lisa Jaeger: I post most of my stuff on Lisa gator and then I link it to my gators run.
00:48:58.020 --> 00:48:58.830 Valerie Heffron: Okay well.
00:48:59.160 --> 00:49:00.600 Valerie Heffron: So this is a prime example so.
00:49:00.600 --> 00:49:05.430 Valerie Heffron: you're saying you were able to put a fence open So what are you putting that with.
00:49:06.210 --> 00:49:09.930 Lisa Jaeger: So i'll tell you it so some of the supplies that I carry in my truck.
00:49:10.020 --> 00:49:21.300 Lisa Jaeger: i'm the first and most important thing is pair of gloves always not always wear them, but if it's something that might bite me or if it's a raptor you know you obviously want to make sure that you have.
00:49:21.390 --> 00:49:22.380 Tommy D: A raptor.
00:49:23.100 --> 00:49:24.210 Valerie Heffron: raptor oh yeah like.
00:49:24.720 --> 00:49:25.950 Lisa Jaeger: Like a red tail Hawk and.
00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:27.570 Tommy D: Oh, I thought you were.
00:49:28.830 --> 00:49:30.030 Lisa Jaeger: bald eagle wants.
00:49:32.310 --> 00:49:34.350 Valerie Heffron: Evil oh my God we know.
00:49:35.670 --> 00:49:43.950 Lisa Jaeger: And they basically well with any paragraph do you want to have a swing that goes up your arm, they can actually their talents can go right through it.
00:49:45.930 --> 00:49:47.340 Lisa Jaeger: I carry chainsaw.
00:49:49.980 --> 00:49:51.270 Valerie Heffron: cool my mind is blown.
00:49:52.410 --> 00:49:54.750 Lisa Jaeger: it's a mini handheld chain chain saw.
00:49:55.290 --> 00:49:57.330 Valerie Heffron: Like I carry a hydraulic.
00:49:57.330 --> 00:49:57.780 jack.
00:49:58.950 --> 00:50:04.170 Lisa Jaeger: there's times when like you know, I have a chain link fence in your the metal Poles.
00:50:04.590 --> 00:50:12.630 Lisa Jaeger: it's sometimes when they put one fence to the other it's separate a little time so we'll get a deer will go through there and get his hips stuck.
00:50:12.990 --> 00:50:22.410 Lisa Jaeger: and actually will actually have to put hydraulic jack in between, to force the fence open, so we can lift the legs up, so we can push the deer out.
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:28.500 Tommy D: Was this something real estate test like i'm confused now did you think.
00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:31.260 Tommy D: When you mean you mean on the wildlife test.
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.270 Tommy D: No, no, I meant becoming a realtor because most.
00:50:33.450 --> 00:50:34.200 Valerie Heffron: Being funny.
00:50:34.290 --> 00:50:35.490 or being funny and not smiling.
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.290 Tommy D: Most realtors I got a pen I have my.
00:50:42.090 --> 00:50:44.820 Tommy D: Most realtors don't carry this sort of gear, but right, but you.
00:50:44.910 --> 00:50:47.850 Lisa Jaeger: Also don't carry tranquilizers and bolt cutters yeah.
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:49.290 Tommy D: Probably no no.
00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:52.020 Valerie Heffron: All right, all right let's play a quick game all right let's look okay.
00:50:52.050 --> 00:50:52.890 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Quick scenario.
00:50:53.130 --> 00:51:02.790 Valerie Heffron: You get the call and there's there's baby ducklings in a sewer you can they can see them through the great you show up what tools do you need.
00:51:03.090 --> 00:51:11.520 Lisa Jaeger: Okay, so very important 99 cent store you go get one of those little kitty butterfly nets because little ducklings full through the holes of any other net.
00:51:12.180 --> 00:51:24.930 Lisa Jaeger: So, for the most part, you know I take my phone, I have an APP on my phone that makes a little ducky sounds and I put the ducky sounds by the sewer great because what happens is they can go from great two great two great.
00:51:25.830 --> 00:51:26.490 Lisa Jaeger: try to get them.
00:51:26.550 --> 00:51:38.220 Lisa Jaeger: To come to this one area and that's a very patient rescue because the sewer green comes off the net goes down and you don't move, you cannot move, you have to wait until.
00:51:39.690 --> 00:51:40.200 Lisa Jaeger: Then.
00:51:40.650 --> 00:51:45.990 Lisa Jaeger: You hold it like this, like a spoon you up so it's almost like a spoon underwater.
00:51:47.100 --> 00:51:50.670 Tommy D: At the end of the block like that thing where it's like graded.
00:51:50.700 --> 00:51:51.900 Tommy D: Generally, referring to like.
00:51:52.710 --> 00:51:57.330 Lisa Jaeger: Take a crowbar you pull the whole great off it's probably about 150 pounds.
00:51:57.930 --> 00:51:58.950 Valerie Heffron: slide about.
00:51:59.430 --> 00:52:00.480 Valerie Heffron: Right wow.
00:52:01.230 --> 00:52:04.410 Lisa Jaeger: Sometimes we have to go down and consumer grade and get them.
00:52:04.680 --> 00:52:05.100 Valerie Heffron: And when.
00:52:05.370 --> 00:52:06.720 Valerie Heffron: Other during this.
00:52:07.050 --> 00:52:10.320 Lisa Jaeger: So the mother takes the babies and she walks on super great.
00:52:10.470 --> 00:52:11.910 Valerie Heffron: And they go big big big big big.
00:52:13.980 --> 00:52:15.210 Valerie Heffron: Anyway, yeah my gosh.
00:52:15.270 --> 00:52:25.620 Valerie Heffron: I have more more games more and more hypotheticals so which are not because you deal with them, you get a you get a call that there's there's an injured our with.
00:52:26.730 --> 00:52:32.850 Valerie Heffron: The fracture or something in their wing, you know you show up with what what are your tools here the glove.
00:52:32.850 --> 00:52:35.130 Lisa Jaeger: I say you always want to make sure you have a.
00:52:35.220 --> 00:52:37.680 Lisa Jaeger: A blanket in the car a heavy blanket.
00:52:38.820 --> 00:52:39.300 Lisa Jaeger: blanket.
00:52:40.470 --> 00:52:46.620 Lisa Jaeger: With an owl again, you want to have your gloves you want to have it that you want to have a carrier and you want to have a towel.
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:58.950 Lisa Jaeger: So the first thing you want to do is assess what the situation is is the aggressive is he seriously injured, you know if an al's aggressive and doesn't want you to pick him up he's going to lay down and he's going to challenge.
00:53:00.660 --> 00:53:06.390 Lisa Jaeger: You grab him by the elbows and you flip them up and put them in the container.
00:53:06.420 --> 00:53:10.890 Tommy D: Did you learn about all this stuff I mean obviously we're an open source anybody listening, but how.
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:20.130 Lisa Jaeger: Do you know there's some really great people out there um you know there's some Joe Rocco he's out in the on the Hampton bays area.
00:53:21.210 --> 00:53:28.320 Lisa Jaeger: area, you know I learned a lot from him he does he does a lot of rescue um I guess just being in the field.
00:53:28.980 --> 00:53:42.960 Lisa Jaeger: Gene Gill Evelyn Alexander wildlife rescue Center you know i've been working with them for years now and and I really just kind of follow people and I heard calls come over and I responded and I just sat back and watch.
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.300 Tommy D: You have a radio that like What do you mean.
00:53:45.330 --> 00:53:47.280 Lisa Jaeger: No, so we have a group me APP so.
00:53:48.060 --> 00:53:58.920 Lisa Jaeger: If there's an emergency it'll it'll blame and i'll know it's my me and i'll click on it, and this is really for Kevin riverhead Southampton and self whole.
00:54:00.630 --> 00:54:01.290 Lisa Jaeger: thing.
00:54:02.070 --> 00:54:17.340 Lisa Jaeger: brookhaven baby for court Defense was available and then whoever is available answers it in the beginning, I would just follow people who were answering me and go to that address and watch them, you know hands, but most of its hands on.
00:54:17.970 --> 00:54:24.060 Valerie Heffron: Can we do one more because I feel like this is a common one, and a lot of people have an aversion to this but.
00:54:24.540 --> 00:54:39.180 Valerie Heffron: I personally like raccoons and I feel like just like every other animal they deserve their right to live, so you get a call for a raccoon or raccoons right in someone's yard now, what are you showing up with, and what do you do you.
00:54:39.300 --> 00:54:41.190 Valerie Heffron: remove them and re home or.
00:54:41.640 --> 00:54:46.350 Lisa Jaeger: Okay, so I not resist vector certified.
00:54:48.030 --> 00:54:48.270 Valerie Heffron: Okay.
00:54:48.300 --> 00:54:49.110 Lisa Jaeger: But um.
00:54:50.160 --> 00:54:59.220 Lisa Jaeger: I go anyway, and I grabbed them anyway, I pick them up anywhere i'm taking a chance um So what we used to do is if it was injured or sick.
00:54:59.940 --> 00:55:08.730 Lisa Jaeger: We were just bringing that bring bring a big container with a snap blood, because you want to make sure that it's not just a tupperware Lou you want to make sure he can't get out.
00:55:10.170 --> 00:55:11.040 Lisa Jaeger: very resourceful.
00:55:13.980 --> 00:55:21.030 Lisa Jaeger: So we have to be very careful, although we haven't had a case of rabies on long island 20 years you want to be careful anyway.
00:55:22.140 --> 00:55:30.480 Lisa Jaeger: But usually a net in the container closing container snap it down, and we would take it to the Evelyn Alexander wildlife rescue Center.
00:55:30.780 --> 00:55:39.090 Lisa Jaeger: Even if we're in brookhaven because they're the only ones that handle them and and if they would you, you may humanely euthanize them.
00:55:40.020 --> 00:55:51.840 Lisa Jaeger: So now we're not allowed to do that anymore, because the New York state will not let us touch the raccoons because they want their DC officers to come on scene and shoot them in the head from the general.
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.450 Tommy D: Pablo oh in front of the public.
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.100 Valerie Heffron: Oh yeah my God.
00:55:58.080 --> 00:56:04.830 Valerie Heffron: there's so many words that we have to change, and I know we're coming to a close and Lisa you got to come back because I have so many more questions.
00:56:06.180 --> 00:56:14.490 Lisa Jaeger: One more quick thing about the deer okay so so we used to have tranquilizer darts so if a deer is injured.
00:56:14.580 --> 00:56:20.310 Lisa Jaeger: And it's dragging its leg and we award or it's laying down and we can't.
00:56:21.390 --> 00:56:31.530 Lisa Jaeger: get it to a point where we can get them trained get a tranquilizer in him the DC comes and shoots them, so we use tranquilizer dart.
00:56:32.100 --> 00:56:45.870 Lisa Jaeger: So what we do is we give them a week of shooting with a tranquilizer dart it relaxes them concept, do we wrap them up take them in our vehicles take them to a rescue Center and get them humanely euthanized they've outlawed tranquilizer dart.
00:56:46.110 --> 00:56:54.840 Tommy D: Please we gotta leave it there, because I want you to I want you to say tell people how to get in touch with you just shout it out for business for this work, whatever.
00:56:55.140 --> 00:57:08.580 Lisa Jaeger: Yes, okay so i'm available usually 24 hours a day, seven days a week, you can text me at 6318 to 89630 texting is awesome you can also email firstname.lastname@example.org.
00:57:08.820 --> 00:57:10.050 Lisa Jaeger: je je.
00:57:10.050 --> 00:57:18.120 Lisa Jaeger: R at element COM follow me on Facebook um yeah we just love animals and we love to advocate and.
00:57:18.180 --> 00:57:29.760 Tommy D: We love you Lisa you look incredible for somebody who never sleeps, let me just say that for 24 hours you look dynamite Val say what you gotta say so, I can say what I gotta say let's send them on their way I.
00:57:29.850 --> 00:57:42.870 Valerie Heffron: can't wait to meet leasing in person guys come to our lunch on August 23 you'll be have a room full of animal lovers and then there's the compassion towards when we're recognizing people boots on the ground, like Lisa but.
00:57:42.900 --> 00:57:43.980 Valerie Heffron: Not least honestly.
00:57:44.730 --> 00:57:45.330 Valerie Heffron: john do.
00:57:46.710 --> 00:57:50.280 Valerie Heffron: You have to be there it's October 11 it's amazing amazing.
00:57:50.430 --> 00:57:51.420 Lisa Jaeger: I will be there.
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:53.340 Tommy D: We want to have you there, we want to.
00:57:53.430 --> 00:57:54.450 Tommy D: I want to be friends with you.
00:57:54.480 --> 00:58:10.590 Tommy D: you're so cool and I want to leave you all, with this in its total commitment to non violence Gandhi always included the animals by stating the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way, it's animals are treated make it a great day again.
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:12.540 Valerie Heffron: Thank you.
00:58:13.980 --> 00:58:14.460 So much.
00:58:15.930 --> 00:58:16.440 Valerie Heffron: I love you.