Our guest this week, Russell Dalgleish, was listed as one of the top 100 most influential entrepreneurs in the UK (No. 67) His career has allowed him to develop a truly global mindset, an inner capacity to “do the right thing” and resilience which has allowed him to accept both success and failure as simply milestones on the journey.
He knows how challenging it can be to lead, how lonely it can sometimes feel and how important it is to ask for help. He also knows how difficult it can be to reach out and admit we can’t do everything. Don’t worry you’re not alone, we’ve all felt this way.
Starting off today’s show, Graham introduces this week’s guest Russell Dalgleish. Graham lists his many accomplishments, including being listed as one of the top 100 most influential entrepreneurs in the UK. Asking the first question of the podcast, Graham asks how Russell has time to do as many things as he does. Russell answers that manages his time well, and makes sure to allot time for free time and travel. Next, Graham asks Russell about the Scottish Business Network, the business he co-founded. Launching into a brief explanation, he talks about the motivation behind co-founding this business. They then talk about different aspects of the Scottish Business Network, such as how it is relevant in New York.
Returning to the show, Graham asks how he decided to pursue entrepreneurship. Russell says he has studied and read a lot about leadership. Through his research, he came to terms with the fact that he had to understand who he truly was in order to be a good leader. He learned what his strengths were. Moving on, Graham asks Russell about the motivation behind being an entrepreneur and leader. Russell answers that he generates enough money to continue pursuing his career, and he also enjoys having a sense of accomplishment when he has the opportunity to help other people. To him, success is determined by the legacy of his business. If his legacy of connecting and helping others outlives him, he will then be successful.
After the break, they discuss how Scotland has been a leader in innovation. This prompts Graham to mention how Scotland is a leader specifically in social innovation, and how they recently have started making period products free for those who need them. Shifting to a new topic, Graham and Russell discuss the importance of caring about climate change and CO2 emissions. Russell discusses how his goal is to reduce Scotland’s carbon emissions, so he has been pulling together smaller Scottish companies to reduce their CO2 emissions. Russell and Graham then discuss different threats to the industry they are currently in. Next, they start to wrap up this section by talking about how our society today tends to encourage people to pursue entrepreneurship, and whether or not this shift is beneficial.
Returning from the final break, Graham and Russell have a conversation about the pros and cons of modern technology. After this discussion, Graham asks Russell about whether or not he has a mentor. He answers that by building a network, he has found people who are the best at what they do. Hence, he feels that he has many mentors in different fields. He describes it as having a team of mentors, rather than a singular mentor. For example, Graham talks about how has a friend who is an Olympic coach, and that this friend wrote him a twelve page plan for Graham to follow, and Graham follows it. Wrapping up the show, Graham thanks Russell for being a guest on his show and for all the insight he was able to provide on his company and on entrepreneurship in general.
00:00:35.130 --> 00:00:45.270 Graham Dobbin: Welcome good afternoon if you're in New York, welcome to the mind behind leadership here live on talk radio dot nyc but on our new slot 5pm Mondays Eastern.
00:00:45.630 --> 00:00:53.070 Graham Dobbin: Which means with a drivetime show this is great i'm i'm actually broadcasting live from Sydney so as bright drive time here as well, but in the morning.
00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:59.670 Graham Dobbin: And it's only a lot busier when it's not in lockdown and look over the next few weeks on this new slot we've got.
00:01:00.570 --> 00:01:12.900 Graham Dobbin: A lot of very exciting guests we've got a variety from all over the globe, this gives us an opportunity to discuss what's happening, the changing business environments leadership and the impact it's got.
00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:19.290 Graham Dobbin: we've got lots of things are happening to us and the UK are opening up australia's closing down.
00:01:20.370 --> 00:01:28.170 Graham Dobbin: To these guests on this, the first one in the US slot is perfectly placed to give us a view on what's happening globally.
00:01:28.590 --> 00:01:36.840 Graham Dobbin: As because i'm absolutely delighted again we've got Russell dalglish I Russell is the chair and co founder of the Scottish business network.
00:01:37.260 --> 00:01:52.290 Graham Dobbin: Is an advisor to private businesses and government he's been listed in the top 100 most influential entrepreneurs in the UK and there's a non executive director for a number of businesses and organizations Russell good to see you.
00:01:53.520 --> 00:01:58.320 Russell Dalgleish: great to see you, too, I can't distinguish that Australian twang yet.
00:01:58.410 --> 00:01:59.040 Russell Dalgleish: As a good.
00:01:59.070 --> 00:02:00.000 Russell Dalgleish: Time to develop.
00:02:00.060 --> 00:02:06.630 Graham Dobbin: i've still got that brooklyn i've still you know four years in New York still keeps me keeps me keeps me in in North brooklyn.
00:02:08.730 --> 00:02:12.720 Graham Dobbin: i'm just listing out all these things that you're involved with us, or how do you find the time.
00:02:14.910 --> 00:02:22.560 Russell Dalgleish: And that's a brilliant question so i've held a number of em chief exec or managing director rules.
00:02:23.100 --> 00:02:33.540 Russell Dalgleish: And our phone those possessions, they eat my time, so my time was completely blocked out I find today when I have what we call a portfolio career.
00:02:34.260 --> 00:02:43.440 Russell Dalgleish: I have plenty of time, because I can choose how to allocate my time and I don't get sidetracked into you know, like a three hour meeting or something.
00:02:43.470 --> 00:02:50.400 Russell Dalgleish: yeah I those things don't exist in my life, so I simply have a light touch and a number of different areas.
00:02:50.880 --> 00:02:59.010 Russell Dalgleish: And you know what I love it because it allows me to also mailed in the things I love doing outside work so.
00:02:59.430 --> 00:03:14.250 Russell Dalgleish: i'm since I turned 50 I became in came very keen on running, for example, so it gives me the time to do that and also to travel i've only had four flights, this year, so far, but I am more of that hopefully to come.
00:03:14.940 --> 00:03:25.410 Graham Dobbin: yeah and shovel shovel is a luxury, but it looks like you're probably going to be a lot more options look and they the one hi we met was through the Scottish business network.
00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:40.950 Graham Dobbin: And if anybody's listening and doesn't can understand the background of probably get from our accents that we're we're both Scottish can some reason but um give us some of the background to that, why did it start your co founder, or what was what was the thinking behind it.
00:03:42.270 --> 00:03:54.450 Russell Dalgleish: Well, Scottish business network is what we call a diaspora organization so it's an organization for the commonality of membership is people have an interest in a particular country.
00:03:54.930 --> 00:04:04.590 Russell Dalgleish: Or, in our case, a nation, Scotland, having representation at soccer World Cups but doesn't have its own army, so we Scotland as a nation.
00:04:05.220 --> 00:04:12.720 Russell Dalgleish: So we developed this about five years ago, when our initial ambition was simply to gather scott's together in London.
00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:18.120 Russell Dalgleish: With the idea that they would help other Scottish businesses in Scotland to win new contracts.
00:04:18.540 --> 00:04:27.330 Russell Dalgleish: And it's grown and expanded since then, and the last 18 months during covert lockdown has just been astonishing, so we now have this.
00:04:27.660 --> 00:04:36.720 Russell Dalgleish: Enormous selection of people with an interest in Scotland, not necessarily Scottish, but with a passion for things Scottish rite across the world.
00:04:37.140 --> 00:04:50.160 Russell Dalgleish: Integrated as a community and all working and supporting each other so basically someone told me over the weekend that I am Scotland self appointed salesman and you know what I like that.
00:04:52.620 --> 00:04:57.570 Graham Dobbin: i'm just touching something really important here nation versus our country.
00:04:58.290 --> 00:04:59.850 Graham Dobbin: Yes, you just expand on that.
00:05:00.840 --> 00:05:09.840 Russell Dalgleish: So we're all familiar with countries, countries like the United States or countries like Australia, but Scotland is more like.
00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:19.410 Russell Dalgleish: You can almost call it like a State, so if we think about those countries that start with the word united United Arab Emirates United States United Kingdom.
00:05:19.740 --> 00:05:28.920 Russell Dalgleish: They all contain in the US that contain individual states and in in the UK that contain individual nations Scotland is one of those nations.
00:05:29.370 --> 00:05:39.930 Russell Dalgleish: So Scotland has had a number of powers devolved from the central government in London that Scotland looks after itself, including we have our own first minister and Nicholas dungeon.
00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:51.750 Russell Dalgleish: And our own health service or an education sector but we're actually we're part of the United Kingdom, so we end up being this nation, but also unique in terms of.
00:05:52.410 --> 00:05:56.340 Russell Dalgleish: historical reasons, and the fact that Scotland maintains its own rugby.
00:05:57.300 --> 00:06:11.310 Russell Dalgleish: club, it maintains its own soccer club as well, so we are represented that and international events are Scotland, however, when it comes to the Olympics were represented as the United Kingdom so there's a bit of a dichotomy there.
00:06:11.730 --> 00:06:16.290 Russell Dalgleish: But what's most important is that we are treating this thought of belonging.
00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:27.450 Russell Dalgleish: So we see the world today that people want to belong, you know I know that there's a particular Glasgow soccer team that that appeals to you, you belong to them, or they belong to you.
00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:40.950 Russell Dalgleish: And, just like that, so we have people around the world who feel this affinity with Scotland or the sense of belonging and their sense of belonging, maybe because the study there, or they went on holiday there or they're just hover.
00:06:41.340 --> 00:06:55.020 Russell Dalgleish: outlandish fascination with outlander whatever it is they've got their sensation and they want to find out more and our job at espn is simply to share that information as to what's happening in Scotland and how you can get involved.
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00:06:57.900 --> 00:07:09.180 Graham Dobbin: So when you said it started in to kind of connect businesses or people in London who would tend to be leaders or or or or businesses and it stretched a little bit further than London now.
00:07:10.140 --> 00:07:27.240 Russell Dalgleish: It does, yes, so we've now introduced start an ambassador program i'm currently we now have 22 ambassadors representing Scotland and cities around the world, so we have ambassadors in the US and and Los Angeles and San Francisco in.
00:07:28.470 --> 00:07:39.900 Russell Dalgleish: salt lake city in utah in Texas, and in Houston Texas, but also am across Europe from Holland into the Middle East and Dubai and Singapore and in Melbourne.
00:07:40.320 --> 00:07:48.930 Russell Dalgleish: And the idea is that within over the next five years we're going to appoint a Scottish ambassador to every single city in the world.
00:07:49.620 --> 00:08:06.360 Russell Dalgleish: China is going to be a stretch but we'll get there as well, now with those ambassadors in place, they can then support and help local Scots in that area, initially, we focused on business but we're now starting to reach out to look at art to look at education and to look at charities.
00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:14.460 Graham Dobbin: um you do realize i'm based in Sydney at the moment we don't talk about Melbourne okay let's just just so you know.
00:08:15.810 --> 00:08:20.640 Russell Dalgleish: I should point out final interview for our first ambassador to Sydney.
00:08:20.910 --> 00:08:31.290 Graham Dobbin: Nice i'm totally fine I just got his business relevant business network relevant here or likes of in New York and all you got a good base New York as well.
00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:37.560 Russell Dalgleish: Well, and in both the States and Australia there's are really keen.
00:08:38.100 --> 00:08:46.230 Russell Dalgleish: understanding of what Scotland is and the desire by people to have a relationship with that particular part of the United Kingdom.
00:08:46.620 --> 00:08:59.130 Russell Dalgleish: So there have been huge success with scotts moving out to the US, we all know about Scottish communities and North Carolina but we've also identified deep links for the Scottish community in utah.
00:08:59.550 --> 00:09:10.080 Russell Dalgleish: And we build those connections, but if you look in Australia I don't think you go to any small Hamlet across Australia without coming across someone who has had several links to Scotland.
00:09:10.710 --> 00:09:22.380 Russell Dalgleish: And we want to build those and allow opportunities to come to life simply through those connections in order to speak to someone who's who's granny was brought up an hour.
00:09:22.890 --> 00:09:31.830 Russell Dalgleish: And there are no running our major enterprise in Australia they've probably got a keen interest potentially and maybe helping a young entrepreneur from Allah.
00:09:32.130 --> 00:09:46.020 Russell Dalgleish: You know these these connections all work and you should never underestimate that m that that that sense of belonging that we have you know if you come across someone from your hometown or someone with an interest in your hometown your immediately drawn to them.
00:09:47.040 --> 00:09:57.690 Graham Dobbin: it's interesting when we talk about business communities and we're kind of trying to find that middle ground it's interesting how trust is built up really quickly just by having having some common interest.
00:09:59.070 --> 00:10:10.500 Russell Dalgleish: What a wonderful word to choose, I was discussing that to do this word trust and 18 months ago we developed trust through what we called face to face meetings.
00:10:11.280 --> 00:10:16.770 Russell Dalgleish: And our assumption was the only way to really get to trust someone was to meet them now.
00:10:17.610 --> 00:10:24.750 Russell Dalgleish: If you're running at global organization such as espn and you're doing it on pennies because it's a not for profit.
00:10:25.230 --> 00:10:28.620 Russell Dalgleish: traveling around the world meeting people's not really an option.
00:10:29.100 --> 00:10:39.180 Russell Dalgleish: So we moved from about 2018 to using tools such as this to communicate with people you know we're Scottish we can do it online and it won't cost anything so it was always going down well.
00:10:39.660 --> 00:10:47.550 Russell Dalgleish: For since lockdowns happened we've really developed techniques about developing trust online without meeting people.
00:10:48.030 --> 00:11:04.470 Russell Dalgleish: And it's all about seeing you're going to do something and doing it and tightening up for the call at the right time following up on the actions but trust also comes about the fact that you have some kind of common experience and we saw if you think about the m.
00:11:06.060 --> 00:11:10.830 Russell Dalgleish: When gold was discovered on the American West Coast people would travel there.
00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:23.340 Russell Dalgleish: But then, very soon after criminal started to get involved so when you arrived off the, off the boat from Scotland, if someone met you on the landing and they said they were Scottish as well, you immediately assumed trust.
00:11:23.910 --> 00:11:34.080 Russell Dalgleish: So we've seen trust being used in a negative way as well, but we've discovered that it's just so easy to make connections online to help to build this Community.
00:11:34.500 --> 00:11:43.290 Russell Dalgleish: And then, over time, trust develops, but we encourage everyone to use online as a way to develop that trust, but we don't know where this world's going either.
00:11:43.650 --> 00:11:56.040 Russell Dalgleish: So I don't know if i'll ever be a loader or Scotland or you'll ever be our own dough certainly we can assume we're well, but what might not come back again, so we have to develop new ways to trust each other and online allows us to do that.
00:11:56.760 --> 00:12:09.750 Graham Dobbin: yeah it's interesting and, especially, you may interesting, you mentioned the west coast of the US virtually every time on there and and I jump in and do a bird or a cab or something, and someone says Where are you from I tell them we tell them they're Scottish.
00:12:10.620 --> 00:12:22.140 Graham Dobbin: And I said Where are you from well I don't quite know and it's actually three or four generations, but the first reaction is they are Scottish not that they've got Scottish heritage and there's that there's that connection that they want to talk.
00:12:23.010 --> 00:12:26.460 Russell Dalgleish: What wonderful examples I was two years in San Jose.
00:12:28.050 --> 00:12:42.720 Russell Dalgleish: California and I got that all the time, but to these are quite remarkable day for Scottish people, because today is the 200 and 50th anniversary of the birth of Sir Walter Scott, so this was an author.
00:12:43.770 --> 00:12:51.030 Russell Dalgleish: A man whose books, we really struggled to understand now 250 years he invented historical fiction.
00:12:51.600 --> 00:13:01.920 Russell Dalgleish: But the time that he was a writer, he was the most dominant larger, more best known writer in the world, and he wrote about Scotland Scotland chemo and his stories.
00:13:02.490 --> 00:13:12.750 Russell Dalgleish: But he did something else as well it's amazing man, Sir, Walter Scott, was a hugely successful entrepreneur He was a man who saw his entire business fortune last.
00:13:13.110 --> 00:13:21.420 Russell Dalgleish: or the equivalent value he found himself 11 million pound sterling in debt and he didn't go bankrupt, he just kept on writing books.
00:13:21.690 --> 00:13:31.140 Russell Dalgleish: In order to pay off that debt and that's a Scottish treat we don't want to be orange someone something but there's something very important so Walter Scott that as well.
00:13:31.530 --> 00:13:42.510 Russell Dalgleish: He invented and one of the greatest moments of marketing he invented the modern Scotsman he invented us by giving us the kilt to we're.
00:13:43.140 --> 00:13:51.600 Russell Dalgleish: Not the Highland dress but this more modern version and he did this because the British King was coming to Scotland that he wanted us to dress.
00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:59.610 Russell Dalgleish: Now, Graham i'm sure you've been to some dinners wearing the kilt and you know the effect, you have, so we should all honor Sir Walter Scott, to the.
00:14:00.300 --> 00:14:10.410 Graham Dobbin: And yes, I have been to many dinners with a kilt on it's it's certainly a scene in certain places and Walter Scott so Walter scott's actually got.
00:14:11.040 --> 00:14:21.330 Graham Dobbin: A phenomenal and anybody in New York, go to literally walk in in central park and there's a super stretch your Walter Scott there right opposite Robert Burns.
00:14:22.110 --> 00:14:30.390 Graham Dobbin: donut donut donut the bottom and new Shakespeare it's all the great writers tend to these literally walk but it's interesting to actually see.
00:14:30.930 --> 00:14:38.610 Graham Dobbin: He was something I stumbled on in central Park, I saw saw two great scotty freighters and we're going to go to a break in a moment.
00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:52.320 Graham Dobbin: So, after the big dinner let's look at the, what are the opportunities for partnerships, when we were looking at between i'm Scotland or the UK and Australia and also the US you're listening to the main behind leadership.
00:14:52.710 --> 00:15:02.430 Graham Dobbin: live here on talk radio dot nyc we're lucky enough to have Russell dalglish, who is the chin co founder of the Scottish business network, we will be back after these messages.
00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:32.520 Graham Dobbin: Welcome back to the main behind leadership we're speaking with Russell don't bleach Russell we'll talk about the opportunities for trade partnerships and everything in the moment.
00:17:33.090 --> 00:17:39.360 Graham Dobbin: something you mentioned earlier that you've kind of got time on your hands now, so I might take you up for some time, however.
00:17:40.500 --> 00:17:50.400 Graham Dobbin: i'm curious for what led you to kind of going from corporate to entrepreneurship what led you to kind of making that move and then making the move to where you are now.
00:17:52.710 --> 00:18:10.230 Russell Dalgleish: Well i've i've spent quite a lot of time studying leadership trying to understand what is the leader of what makes a leader tick and i've read an awful lot of books about leadership and there seemed to be more books coming out almost on an hourly basis to the.
00:18:11.370 --> 00:18:21.570 Russell Dalgleish: But I came to terms with the fact that before one can become a good leader one's got to understand who we really are so I spent about two years actually looking at.
00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.060 Russell Dalgleish: Who was I really what was, I actually good at was I actually.
00:18:27.570 --> 00:18:39.630 Russell Dalgleish: Very good at being a chief exec, for example, people up to people asked me to take that role on and I delivered it and the companies were successful, but I knew in my heart that wasn't really what I was good at.
00:18:40.320 --> 00:18:46.140 Russell Dalgleish: So I went through and decided what was I best that that what i'm best at is communicating.
00:18:46.830 --> 00:19:00.660 Russell Dalgleish: And i'm best that building partnerships connecting people being there to support and help people and, if you look at my linkedin it will tell you that m my why my reason is to help other people.
00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:07.380 Russell Dalgleish: So that's how I decided to live my life and that's what took me made me step away from the corporate world.
00:19:07.710 --> 00:19:15.030 Russell Dalgleish: I initially almost doing side projects, while I would borrowed back a couple of startups and then I got more than more involved in that.
00:19:15.420 --> 00:19:30.180 Russell Dalgleish: I have subsequently developed quite a reputation for helping others to move their businesses forward, not so much as startup no more than what we call scale ups so helping people have got to a certain stage of the business and helping them to accelerate that growth.
00:19:31.320 --> 00:19:38.670 Graham Dobbin: i'm putting you get over that, then you like helping people, and I can see what can everybody else gets from that what what is Russell again.
00:19:39.780 --> 00:19:40.350 Russell Dalgleish: So.
00:19:41.550 --> 00:19:52.950 Russell Dalgleish: i'm clever enough as a business person to make sure that the activity, I do generates money here and there, which allows me to continue doing it.
00:19:53.310 --> 00:20:01.140 Russell Dalgleish: And provided that's my life i'm happy, you know my goal isn't to make millions and squirrel it away in a bank account that's not what turns me on.
00:20:02.040 --> 00:20:09.900 Russell Dalgleish: What I really get out of it is a sense of accomplishment, you know as as human beings, I think that's what we strive for in life.
00:20:10.260 --> 00:20:17.370 Russell Dalgleish: We talk about making a difference, but actually making a difference is quite difficult to actually understand if we've done it or not.
00:20:17.760 --> 00:20:22.500 Russell Dalgleish: But helping other people, you know when you help someone and you make an introduction.
00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:28.800 Russell Dalgleish: And then business it's really important we build strategies we implement structures we drive process.
00:20:29.130 --> 00:20:37.200 Russell Dalgleish: But every now and then there's almost what feels like a chance meeting which develops into something else which over time can transform our businesses.
00:20:37.740 --> 00:20:45.300 Russell Dalgleish: And that's what I discovered i'm really good at I worked out that what we're really good that we remember.
00:20:46.020 --> 00:20:56.850 Russell Dalgleish: So I remember Graham did a podcast with me in New York and they told me was moving to Australia, so when he called me and said we did our podcast and see yes, I remember that.
00:20:57.150 --> 00:21:16.080 Russell Dalgleish: And I remember the factor to suggest to people that as potential future guests, for your show what I don't remember is same things about tax and accountancy I don't have the ability to hold that so by focusing on what we're really good at know what what honest, to be honest with ourselves.
00:21:16.110 --> 00:21:23.790 Russell Dalgleish: What do we really, really like that's the key so what I get out of it is I get this incredible sense of fulfillment.
00:21:24.450 --> 00:21:34.260 Russell Dalgleish: And it it drives me, you know i'm apparently in the morning and I work too late in the evening, just because of the thrill of it, and if you look at Scottish business network it's kind of.
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:41.340 Russell Dalgleish: know, someone said to me how will you know when Scottish business networks are success and I said well i'll be dead.
00:21:41.760 --> 00:21:57.120 Russell Dalgleish: It will have managed to survive, Sir outlast me so that's the success, no as long as it continues to help this mission of bringing scott's together and and just using that connectivity to help each other i'm happy.
00:21:58.710 --> 00:21:59.190 Graham Dobbin: Nice.
00:22:00.270 --> 00:22:06.450 Graham Dobbin: interesting thing you say another interesting, you said that so identifying what we're good and yes.
00:22:07.560 --> 00:22:17.880 Graham Dobbin: And you said, I think I think you had just the chief executive officer Chief Executive or businesses, it was working well we're we're making good money, but this is what I was good at.
00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:32.280 Graham Dobbin: Most people look for an extendable confirmation of what they're good at, so if that a chief executive and the business is doing well, they would normally take that as well that must be what i'm good at, so what kept you been curious.
00:22:32.850 --> 00:22:34.170 Russell Dalgleish: I listened to myself.
00:22:34.860 --> 00:22:45.690 Russell Dalgleish: So some people call it prayer but to me I I know when i'm comfortable when i'm happy, you know when I feel i'm doing the right thing.
00:22:46.050 --> 00:22:58.170 Russell Dalgleish: I also know when i'm feeling i'm doing the wrong thing so that understanding of me, you know, like I did I did two years of being brutally honest with myself to work out what I was actually good at.
00:22:58.770 --> 00:23:11.970 Russell Dalgleish: And once you got to the end of that if you started to do those things you thought you were good at it's just incredible I told you, I got em I help a young lady who runs up a business in a slum in daily.
00:23:12.780 --> 00:23:29.040 Russell Dalgleish: And I donate a little bit of money, but i'm always there to help her i'm encouraging I blast out messages about what she does and she's transforming she's a change maker know the difference, she is making two young girls and India is truly incredible.
00:23:30.090 --> 00:23:32.670 Russell Dalgleish: That to me as the satisfaction and what I do.
00:23:35.520 --> 00:23:43.290 Graham Dobbin: So when we look at them, so you you've taken your skills you're taking their skills as kind of a corporate or the chief exec.
00:23:43.590 --> 00:23:50.430 Graham Dobbin: you're taking them to connect with people all over the world and know you're looking at cheap trade and partnerships and opportunities.
00:23:51.330 --> 00:24:05.010 Graham Dobbin: Between the UK or Scotland and different places, so all kind of opportunities begin to jump out there, and when we were coming at it from a point of connection so My guess is is different types of opportunities that come up.
00:24:06.150 --> 00:24:09.000 Russell Dalgleish: It comes from the conversations so.
00:24:09.060 --> 00:24:17.910 Russell Dalgleish: yeah I will have conversations with people, and you know I again the studying of things so someone says i'd like to buy your coffee Russell.
00:24:18.630 --> 00:24:26.550 Russell Dalgleish: I see no let's do a 10 minute phone call so in 10 minutes on the phone call I can work out whether or not I can help that person.
00:24:27.300 --> 00:24:31.500 Russell Dalgleish: Then, if I could work I can help them typically i'll be through a connection.
00:24:31.980 --> 00:24:43.380 Russell Dalgleish: So i'm probably the best connected person in Scotland, if you like, so because of that it makes it the connection i'm likely to meet for you is likely to have a Scottish element.
00:24:43.620 --> 00:24:56.400 Russell Dalgleish: But hopefully it will be done in such a way to help you just move that next step down the lane so, for example, and I currently i've just recently been appointed by the Department of international trade and the UK.
00:24:56.850 --> 00:25:04.680 Russell Dalgleish: So this is the organization that helps with trade and within word investment and they've asked me to do just the most marvelous thing.
00:25:05.130 --> 00:25:13.350 Russell Dalgleish: they've asked me to see if I can identify entrepreneurs in the US or in Australia or anywhere in the world.
00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:26.610 Russell Dalgleish: who think, by opening a base in Scotland, they could move their business forward so my job now in that rule is to explain to the world what the benefits of Scotland are.
00:25:27.510 --> 00:25:43.140 Russell Dalgleish: And the benefits are scotland's talent Scotland has the most incredible highly educated hard working and not at the high end expensive talent that can help you move your business forward.
00:25:43.890 --> 00:25:54.900 Russell Dalgleish: Primarily, looking at research and development, but also engineering, but just these skills that we have to be there's people sitting there in Scotland who can help you.
00:25:55.290 --> 00:26:00.870 Russell Dalgleish: It can also act as a landing point the perfect landing point you know if someone was to be coming to America.
00:26:01.080 --> 00:26:09.180 Russell Dalgleish: And I talked to technologists they go, I want to be in Silicon Valley, you know what that's what I want to be you then come and visit themselves in Silicon Valley and go.
00:26:09.660 --> 00:26:18.330 Russell Dalgleish: To you know how expensive it is here Russell and he's just realized that's not where you want to be so my argument would be we want you to come to the UK.
00:26:18.750 --> 00:26:26.760 Russell Dalgleish: But not London come to Scotland the talents there and you're going to be able to build and accelerate the growth from your company from there.
00:26:28.170 --> 00:26:41.190 Graham Dobbin: So what opportunities does that go, so you look at kind of partnerships, what kind of partnerships and being created, and then you looking for in in across the globe, I was going to say the US at a show you bill is not limited.
00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:53.130 Russell Dalgleish: Primarily it's it's an area of technology so primarily if I look at organizations, I was talking to a company at this morning in Ankara.
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:59.700 Russell Dalgleish: And they've built their business, probably as far as they can build it geographically based there.
00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:08.820 Russell Dalgleish: They need to come and work in an ecosystem that will support them to accelerate the growth of that business, so that a perfect kind of company to come to Scotland.
00:27:09.270 --> 00:27:18.960 Russell Dalgleish: If you're looking at particular sector so M and pharmaceutical sector is very strong biochemistry but also fintech also data.
00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:30.420 Russell Dalgleish: Scotland, as well as moving forward and in space, but the key one at the present moment is i'm looking to speak to any companies who have an interest in technologies to help address climate change.
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:37.950 Russell Dalgleish: we're currently three months away from the UN summit on climate change, which is going to take part, take place in Glasgow.
00:27:38.430 --> 00:27:44.430 Russell Dalgleish: And we're know looking to try to start pulling together those companies, so any company in particular at the moment.
00:27:44.610 --> 00:27:51.900 Russell Dalgleish: Who has our product or service appropriate for at helping to address some element of climate change, and it could be, you know it could be.
00:27:52.110 --> 00:28:00.000 Russell Dalgleish: An energy production, it could be just any element of service, where it's going to reduce that pool on the energy of demands and the creation of CO2.
00:28:00.330 --> 00:28:09.240 Russell Dalgleish: really keen to speak to them and to look at bringing them to Scotland, so that we're working in an environment that will surround them with support and.
00:28:09.270 --> 00:28:17.010 Graham Dobbin: Scott one's got a deep history and heritage in innovation and we'll talk about that, after the break because I kind of.
00:28:17.550 --> 00:28:25.260 Graham Dobbin: know that that's that's one of the driving forces, and I think most people that I speak to tend to be quite surprised with what's coming to Scotland.
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:38.640 Graham Dobbin: and historically you're listening to the main behind leadership I were speaking with Russell dovish on talk radio dot nyc will be talking innovation in Scotland, right after the break.
00:31:15.840 --> 00:31:25.500 Graham Dobbin: Welcome back to the main behind leadership we're speaking with Russell dalglish the chair and co founder of the Scottish business network we're talking innovation.
00:31:26.550 --> 00:31:39.750 Graham Dobbin: Scotland has upload tradition and history of innovating what kind of the some of the things that they surprise others when you speak to them or just about how scotland's been involved in the past.
00:31:40.740 --> 00:31:48.780 Russell Dalgleish: Was there's a rather wonderful book called how Scotland invented the modern world, which you know claim which shores.
00:31:49.290 --> 00:32:00.990 Russell Dalgleish: tracy's on how various inventions from the telephone to the television had Scottish influence and that development and it comes from a country that has a very strong engineering background.
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:11.190 Russell Dalgleish: So if we think about what engineers do engine years use that intellect to overcome challenges and that know whether it's bridge building or anything, yes, the engineering conundrum.
00:32:11.610 --> 00:32:24.720 Russell Dalgleish: For scotland's moved up innovation forward into new areas that we wouldn't have considered So if I think about what makes me proud about scotland's innovation recently.
00:32:25.050 --> 00:32:33.300 Russell Dalgleish: it's been social innovation so Scotland, the first country in the world to offer and PDF products to girls and women for free.
00:32:33.810 --> 00:32:40.290 Russell Dalgleish: Now that started a ripple effect around the world and that came from and social change within Scotland.
00:32:40.980 --> 00:32:50.760 Russell Dalgleish: Something else in Scotland that's not well known as a fact it's now a major Center for data, so this is for reception informatics or for the process in speech data.
00:32:51.120 --> 00:33:01.380 Russell Dalgleish: You know, we have a we have a fledgling space sector now looking at launch pads and identifying those but the key differentiator is that these are some of the world's most.
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:13.110 Russell Dalgleish: Powerful computers are based in Scotland and don't know there's a joke about the fact that one of the problems with quantum computers, as you have to keep them cool so scotland's quite a good place to do it.
00:33:14.580 --> 00:33:24.690 Russell Dalgleish: But more importantly it's to do with the talent again, so we have the people on the ground in Scotland who can do that ourselves and can do the focus starts to bring these things to light.
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:32.160 Russell Dalgleish: And as innovation, innovation has then come along in parallel with entrepreneurship, so when I left school to go to college.
00:33:32.610 --> 00:33:40.050 Russell Dalgleish: The dream was that people would get jobs in banks or the civil service, I got a job in a bank people know leave schools to create companies.
00:33:40.740 --> 00:33:54.810 Russell Dalgleish: were no building out our integrated ecosystem right across Scotland, so that we can bring together the support and networks rowing the boat these entrepreneurs in order that they can build the innovative companies of the future.
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.530 Russell Dalgleish: And that's what that that kind of underground that momentum is happening.
00:33:58.980 --> 00:34:07.170 Russell Dalgleish: And we could know we're going to witness it a lot roundabout and COP 26 you know if you if you do a search on news channels.
00:34:07.560 --> 00:34:23.340 Russell Dalgleish: The word Scotland has never been more popular than it is today, and that's because the UN summit is in Glasgow in the United Kingdom, but everyone describes Glasgow as Glasgow Scotland yeah so that that that opportunity at the present moment to.
00:34:24.270 --> 00:34:33.510 Russell Dalgleish: deal with what we're going to do as the the world starts to look at Scotland so i'm one of the things that we did at Scottish business network was to create net zero Scotland.
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:41.850 Russell Dalgleish: Which is pulling together smaller companies so that they can understand how they can go on this journey along the route to reduce their CO2 emissions.
00:34:43.050 --> 00:34:45.000 Russell Dalgleish: Online a vision, all new thought.
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:46.650 Graham Dobbin: Why is that important to you because.
00:34:47.670 --> 00:35:04.860 Graham Dobbin: we're going to talk about the climate summit and fight let's talk about to know, I know that the climate change summit is is important for Scotland but there's a candidate theme of some of the discussions that we've had the net zero by by DC that is important Russell.
00:35:05.520 --> 00:35:18.990 Russell Dalgleish: So the UN public the UN really answered that question last week and a report was published, which was a summary of 14,000 separate scientific investigations to see.
00:35:19.710 --> 00:35:23.850 Russell Dalgleish: what's the climate warming if the climate was warming, what was the reason for that.
00:35:24.180 --> 00:35:32.340 Russell Dalgleish: And the overwhelming evidence that came back with it was man's activities and actions on mankind's activities and actions, so there was a need to address that.
00:35:32.700 --> 00:35:38.070 Russell Dalgleish: and Scotland is taking their position that that's something that we want to.
00:35:39.060 --> 00:35:49.920 Russell Dalgleish: help with so we want to use our innovation and our talent, to come up with solutions really to be the laboratory for the world, so we have tied, all we have when we have hydro.
00:35:50.220 --> 00:35:59.790 Russell Dalgleish: we're now looking at em CO2 capture we're looking at def so there's a real interest in using the skills that we have at the universities to develop on that front.
00:36:00.090 --> 00:36:07.380 Russell Dalgleish: And we see different parts of the world will have different emphasis within their culture, about what type of developments they're going to do.
00:36:07.620 --> 00:36:22.920 Russell Dalgleish: And in Scotland, more than more of that focus is coming to looking at, climate change and to be honest it's coming from the schools, you know overwhelmingly the interest in young people is looking for ways to address climate change, more than it's ever been before in any one subject.
00:36:23.910 --> 00:36:28.920 Graham Dobbin: And you think that's unusual to Scotland that's happening in the skills and then there's more emphasis so.
00:36:29.820 --> 00:36:33.690 Russell Dalgleish: I think we're seeing it happen right across the world It just seems to be much more.
00:36:34.620 --> 00:36:44.010 Russell Dalgleish: Much more evident in Scotland, Scotland, was the first country or nation to declare the climate know climate change was actually a climate emergency.
00:36:44.430 --> 00:36:48.840 Russell Dalgleish: So the popular set electing political parties that share that opinion.
00:36:49.200 --> 00:36:56.550 Russell Dalgleish: No scotland's about to the new Scottish government's been formed and it's going to be a correlation between the Scottish National Party and the Green Party.
00:36:56.850 --> 00:37:06.090 Russell Dalgleish: So the robot legislation which is going to be endorsed by a Green Party, a party whose entire purpose is to help us to look after the climate better.
00:37:07.170 --> 00:37:13.830 Graham Dobbin: I sound like there's a lot of opportunities going down that road for for links is gone, but any threats that you see.
00:37:14.910 --> 00:37:21.090 Graham Dobbin: In businesses that kind of go in that focus if other countries don't maybe give it as much of an emphasis.
00:37:22.110 --> 00:37:34.380 Russell Dalgleish: I think we've all got to be adaptive within our own model framework based trends about the Cape of industries we're doing you know we can't ignore it in Scotland, for example, that we have a highly successful oil and gas sector.
00:37:35.070 --> 00:37:40.230 Russell Dalgleish: But what we can do is, we can have interesting discussions about whether or not we should open up new oil fields.
00:37:40.530 --> 00:37:59.430 Russell Dalgleish: yeah so so it's interesting watching these happen one of our one of our last bit, but we could look at the US, so one of our SP and ambassadors is in Houston and he was telling me that them, they were watching last year they watched oil rigs being converted into wind turbine platforms.
00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:07.890 Russell Dalgleish: And now they're starting to watch oil rigs be converted into landing platforms for returning space rockets.
00:38:08.850 --> 00:38:20.010 Russell Dalgleish: And it's really interesting how we adapt to where the opportunity is and our world yeah so it's I think I think one of the things we've got in Scotland is that we have a great stability.
00:38:20.520 --> 00:38:30.120 Russell Dalgleish: And that stability and tandem with the M, you know something happened 2014 Scotland tada vote on whether or not to become an independent separate country.
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:44.400 Russell Dalgleish: And what was interesting wasn't the result, what was interesting was the fact that we had a ton of almost 90% in a democratic country, never seen anywhere outside Russia 90% tonight.
00:38:45.300 --> 00:39:02.610 Russell Dalgleish: And no violence, no violence at all now they've got amazing coverage around the world and the coverage was people went well, of course, there Scottish that's what we would expect, so that character trait is actually getting reflected in our society, since.
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:13.440 Graham Dobbin: 2014 I was actually living in in Wales at the time and we deliberately drove up because I didn't get a vote and we deliberately boots boots.
00:39:14.520 --> 00:39:23.190 Graham Dobbin: an apartment for the weekend in Glasgow for the day after the fall and it just kind of just felt there has to be there, regardless of which way the ball went.
00:39:23.730 --> 00:39:31.230 Graham Dobbin: And I remember walking around, especially the maps and city and walk around at night on the Friday night when the vote was knowing and the.
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:40.680 Graham Dobbin: People have voted yes and last, I have never seen sense such prayed and a place i've never actually been so proud to be Scottish Jane you know.
00:39:41.130 --> 00:39:52.410 Graham Dobbin: that people are walking about new they've got a voice it didn't matter if it didn't matter if they won or lost, of course, that that, but the result played there that they got out in in 90 almost 90% that had a voice.
00:39:53.340 --> 00:39:59.790 Graham Dobbin: If it's if it's a really interesting atmosphere that we can do something really cool people together and.
00:40:01.740 --> 00:40:14.370 Graham Dobbin: What are the things you mentioned that we were some it gets a lot of entrepreneurship, people are beginning to beginning to look to be entrepreneurs and also took a note earlier that you know when we talked about leaders.
00:40:15.210 --> 00:40:23.010 Graham Dobbin: I sometimes worry that everybody feels that dish that I see that coming through from schools everything that's been pushed away when we look at.
00:40:23.910 --> 00:40:33.690 Graham Dobbin: shark tank or dragons den and then there's leadership programs the apprentice and everything like that everything has been pushed as you need to become a leader or an entrepreneur.
00:40:34.710 --> 00:40:39.240 Graham Dobbin: um do you see that that's appropriate and appropriate you think it's helpful.
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:51.510 Russell Dalgleish: it's it's difficult I just think these are positive things to want to be rather than em you know I want to become.
00:40:52.020 --> 00:41:01.710 Russell Dalgleish: I want to take a job in a big corporate and slowly work your way up some ladder, and I think i've spoken to quite a lot of young people in the things i've done, I take him.
00:41:02.310 --> 00:41:06.810 Russell Dalgleish: For several years, I would take six young entrepreneurs to Silicon Valley.
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:14.910 Russell Dalgleish: And we would shoot around in a minibus and we would see how the valley actually operates, and they got your team to speak to people and.
00:41:15.420 --> 00:41:24.150 Russell Dalgleish: What I get with young people to do it's not so much that they want to be a leader, so they want to be entrepreneurs entrepreneurs, but they want their life to matter.
00:41:25.050 --> 00:41:26.460 Russell Dalgleish: So it's not about.
00:41:26.790 --> 00:41:31.290 Russell Dalgleish: I don't believe it's so much know with younger people about the accumulation of wealth.
00:41:31.650 --> 00:41:39.930 Russell Dalgleish: which it probably was from my generation, you know, we had to know we wanted to go out there, I remember I don't know if you remember the UK in the 90s, we had.
00:41:40.200 --> 00:41:47.610 Russell Dalgleish: thatcher's government coming to the end, we had comedians with loads of money or loads of money let's make some money and and I think that's kind of changed, though.
00:41:47.940 --> 00:41:53.910 Russell Dalgleish: And I think I think things like climate change or something on that I think social change as well, and the vote this.
00:41:54.390 --> 00:41:58.650 Russell Dalgleish: Know everyone's the same and removing this idea about em.
00:41:59.130 --> 00:42:12.810 Russell Dalgleish: No, no, no gender being something that can stop you, even though it still is and we've got to get over that and also that diversity element, so I think that the generation that's coming out know are much more rounded about the type of people that would like to see in our world.
00:42:13.650 --> 00:42:18.600 Graham Dobbin: yeah, the reason I asked him what could be some corporates where we're kind of we're doing leadership programs.
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:33.870 Graham Dobbin: But also do programs where it's Okay, not to be a leader don't feel they do feel that everybody needs to go down that route and get get down get down to that point and business has changed, then over the over the last last year or so.
00:42:35.130 --> 00:42:46.200 Graham Dobbin: i've already said at the very beginning, US and UK opening up a sugars closing down there's talks about us in certain States closing down again How does that impact the county.
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:55.980 Graham Dobbin: The discussions that you're having businesses that you see what what's the changes, apart from over the line, though, so.
00:42:56.070 --> 00:43:15.780 Russell Dalgleish: I wrote a piece for our Scottish newspaper and yesterday and I mentioned the fact that, though we've seen things that have affected treated negatively, such as brexit that we've seen in the UK and Europe uncovered when we look back on this team in the future.
00:43:16.890 --> 00:43:21.600 Russell Dalgleish: The historians will see this was the this was the tipping point for technology.
00:43:22.740 --> 00:43:32.640 Russell Dalgleish: We have no all accepted technology as part of our life yeah we don't sit in the office going the computer's not working let's get the it guy to fix it.
00:43:33.150 --> 00:43:40.440 Russell Dalgleish: we've a large numbers of spent 18 months at home and we've now realized, we have to understand how that thing works.
00:43:40.830 --> 00:43:49.620 Russell Dalgleish: We can't just get taught to use this video conferencing thing called zoom or teams will have to work out what the individual buttons do so that we can participate.
00:43:49.980 --> 00:43:58.080 Russell Dalgleish: So technologically, we have to understand and use the systems, and we also have to understand how to use them to benefit ourselves and our businesses.
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:05.010 Russell Dalgleish: And not sticking complete reeducation for people, and I think that's the biggest transformation that's happened.
00:44:05.430 --> 00:44:12.510 Russell Dalgleish: And the outcome for business is that your market has moved from your geographically close market to global.
00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:25.650 Russell Dalgleish: you're a perfect example of it, Graham you were in New York know you're in Sydney you're broadcasting to a global market, it doesn't matter, it requires a lot of effort to understand how that market works.
00:44:26.220 --> 00:44:37.650 Russell Dalgleish: But we've got the Internet sit down do the work read the material and you can understand how to build the connections to access a global market that's the change of the last 18 months.
00:44:38.820 --> 00:44:47.880 Graham Dobbin: we'll dig a little bit more into that after the break and also also I kind of want to dig into we've got a lot about the business a lot about your connections.
00:44:48.210 --> 00:44:53.880 Graham Dobbin: We really want to find out how you how you manage to step away and how you managed to get that balance as well or.
00:44:54.090 --> 00:45:06.630 Graham Dobbin: Or, as we call over here what life integration, not balance is what we have integration, how do we do that, and you listen to rain behind leadership we're live on top radio dot nyc we're speaking with Russell dalglish will be back after these.
00:47:43.980 --> 00:47:48.720 Graham Dobbin: you're you're you're listening to the mind behind leadership life here on talk radio dot nyc.
00:47:49.290 --> 00:47:59.040 Graham Dobbin: New York City i'm broadcasting here from Sydney in Australia and we're speaking to Russell dalglish who's in Edinburgh in Scotland, but just don't say that and let's get right.
00:47:59.790 --> 00:48:14.340 Graham Dobbin: and technology reviews technology over the last year to change business what technology, have you maybe struggled with what was the what was the thing that that that Russell had to really dig in and get get ready to use that maybe you didn't want it.
00:48:16.770 --> 00:48:21.780 Russell Dalgleish: And I don't think i've experienced that because, if I didn't want to I didn't do it.
00:48:22.380 --> 00:48:25.410 Russell Dalgleish: And I have an obsession with process.
00:48:25.830 --> 00:48:34.170 Russell Dalgleish: Because to live the kind of LIFE I lead but i'm working on number, a number of different projects and with a number of different people all the time.
00:48:34.530 --> 00:48:43.050 Russell Dalgleish: I have to be quite careful how I build systems in order to manage that process to make sure the important things get done.
00:48:44.040 --> 00:48:56.190 Russell Dalgleish: i'm amazingly good at not not doing unimportant things because, by definition, I shouldn't be doing them anyway so i'm quite good at prioritizing so i've used various systems to do that.
00:48:56.580 --> 00:49:03.240 Russell Dalgleish: I love your table, for example, it's saying it's one of the one of the greatest pieces of application software has come along.
00:49:03.750 --> 00:49:15.600 Russell Dalgleish: But i've not i've not i've not felt pressurized into using technology have not been able to use up, I think one of the things i've found which is just truly incredible is linkedin.
00:49:16.290 --> 00:49:28.290 Russell Dalgleish: You know, for free access to a system that can put me in connection with everyone on the planet, that everyone in here, a large proportion of those on the planet in the business world is just incredible it's been wild.
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:41.820 Graham Dobbin: And it's inside and remember last year in March time seeing training development will never work online, and I think it's probably the last time I ever said something will never work.
00:49:42.510 --> 00:49:43.740 Graham Dobbin: And I should have known better.
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:51.390 Graham Dobbin: Because, as you say it's kind of it's opened up today and working in Sydney the USA and Europe yeah.
00:49:52.560 --> 00:50:02.340 Graham Dobbin: All from here and it's it's incredible what it can actually do so so again, I think the last time i've ever said something or not, what know it's like let's just let's just make it work.
00:50:02.640 --> 00:50:14.430 Graham Dobbin: And you get involved with a lot of things you mentioned newspapers obviously interviews gone young entrepreneurs and TRIPS you connecting people, what do you enjoy most what really gives you the biggest kick.
00:50:15.780 --> 00:50:18.990 Russell Dalgleish: What I enjoy most is living in the moment.
00:50:20.010 --> 00:50:32.220 Russell Dalgleish: So, unless I look at the clock I don't know it's 10 to 11 at night here I don't think about the fact that i'm talking to my computer screen Pal sitting alone in my office.
00:50:32.340 --> 00:50:33.780 Russell Dalgleish: I don't think about that.
00:50:34.140 --> 00:50:47.160 Russell Dalgleish: i'm at the present moment in a room with Graham having a conversation and i'm totally focused on that conversation and that's what gets me the most pleasure is to be totally in the moment.
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:59.760 Russell Dalgleish: And it also helps I find it helps with things like em stress, etc, because I only do the important things and I focus on them really carefully when i'm doing them.
00:51:00.690 --> 00:51:11.040 Russell Dalgleish: And I think I think that's, the key to life so there's not one thing I like doing more than anything else I just really liked the thing i'm doing at the time that's what's important.
00:51:11.100 --> 00:51:16.620 Graham Dobbin: is enjoying you know what with the Dale Carnegie and one of the principles on.
00:51:18.090 --> 00:51:19.920 Graham Dobbin: The book how to.
00:51:21.150 --> 00:51:22.860 Graham Dobbin: How to not worry, how to not stress.
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:25.800 Graham Dobbin: Is live in detail compartments.
00:51:27.330 --> 00:51:35.310 Graham Dobbin: And just kind of don't think about what's happened don't you know don't think to find the future work on what's there what's in front of you, this has been known for a long time.
00:51:35.820 --> 00:51:51.810 Graham Dobbin: yep a long time, but it's really it's difficult to do so, have you had a mentor or somebody that you've seen as someone that you look up to in business and you think finally do it, they didn't do it right and that that's been your kind of inspiration.
00:51:52.830 --> 00:52:00.900 Russell Dalgleish: i'm incredibly lucky so by building a network, I found people who are the best at what they do.
00:52:01.710 --> 00:52:10.860 Russell Dalgleish: And I go to them when I want to ask about that thing, so I don't have a single mentor I have a whole range of them.
00:52:11.430 --> 00:52:17.850 Russell Dalgleish: Some of them are like my business partners, some of them are colleagues, some of them are just friends.
00:52:18.090 --> 00:52:26.910 Russell Dalgleish: But these are the people who, so I know who to go to dependent on the thing, and particularly the challenge and particularly trying to overcome with at the time.
00:52:27.570 --> 00:52:38.070 Russell Dalgleish: And a lot of those challenges are to do with how do I stay doing the right thing, who died, I mean on track, because for a lot of business people, maybe bring it home.
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:47.520 Russell Dalgleish: And there's there's no point me coming home and asking my wife who's our an acupuncturist whether or not I should refresh my website.
00:52:47.850 --> 00:52:54.450 Russell Dalgleish: Why, why would Why would she have an insight on that particular subject it's not our specialization but if I come home and go.
00:52:54.660 --> 00:53:05.820 Russell Dalgleish: i've got this aching pain in my side she's definitely the person to speak to so I have this team of mentors who I go to dependent on what particular challenge i'm trying to overcome at the time.
00:53:06.450 --> 00:53:14.490 Russell Dalgleish: And it's I listened to them, and if they're the specialist i've got i'm training for a marathon at the moment ends my outfit.
00:53:14.910 --> 00:53:24.930 Russell Dalgleish: And then i've got a friend who's an Olympic coach and he's written me a 12 page training guide that goes Dave idea what I should do and I just do it.
00:53:25.710 --> 00:53:34.200 Russell Dalgleish: Someone said to me, but you're over training, I said i'm not based on his experience and his skills i'm going to do what he says, I have to do tomorrow and that's what I do.
00:53:34.710 --> 00:53:41.880 Russell Dalgleish: And it's it's almost like giving an offer, or should I worry about it he's the guy that's written the plan because he's the expert brilliant.
00:53:42.600 --> 00:53:48.180 Graham Dobbin: Is this the process part kicking in them you kind of get a process from an expert you follow it yep.
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:57.540 Graham Dobbin: um How else do you like so you're training for a marathon you've got to finish the Madison which one, are you doing.
00:53:58.260 --> 00:54:10.770 Russell Dalgleish: i'm doing the London Madison on October, the third i'm doing it for a charity based in London that helps homeless scott's so it's it's in my wheelhouse if you're like.
00:54:10.860 --> 00:54:12.900 Russell Dalgleish: it's, of course, the thing Russell we'd be doing.
00:54:13.350 --> 00:54:31.440 Russell Dalgleish: And I think in leadership if people are surprised by what you're doing that to me, is a warning sign, you know that's why you're doing that, as a bit surprising we don't normally associate that with you, but if you can then explain the path with which you ended up there, then it's okay.
00:54:32.670 --> 00:54:35.160 Graham Dobbin: Do you see, we just doing that doing.
00:54:35.580 --> 00:54:43.410 Graham Dobbin: Again, do you see leaders doing that you see leaders kind of doing things that maybe isn't in the wheelhouse that the the begin to stretch themselves.
00:54:44.670 --> 00:54:54.210 Russell Dalgleish: Yes, and that's what leads to the stress and and I think I think a lot of it, I remember when I first took up a position as chief exec for a.
00:54:54.660 --> 00:55:02.700 Russell Dalgleish: couple of hundred million pound turnover company so i've done it a claimed, all the way to the top of that ladder and I thought that's it i've made it.
00:55:03.180 --> 00:55:18.600 Russell Dalgleish: And then I discovered, I had a board who were the worst possible boss, you could imagine, because these were people who had no operational idea of running the company, but insisted on telling me what to do and it eat time managing that know managing.
00:55:18.630 --> 00:55:19.080 Graham Dobbin: near.
00:55:19.260 --> 00:55:29.040 Russell Dalgleish: Up disconnected board is just a nightmare so and i've kind of watched out for things like that, and instead focus on who I really am.
00:55:29.790 --> 00:55:35.640 Russell Dalgleish: And when you focus on who you really are you get people saying things to you like your authentic.
00:55:36.390 --> 00:55:46.320 Russell Dalgleish: voice you put out and linkedin Russell I can hear you sing those words that kind of makes sense and and I like that you know because i've done so many training courses on how to.
00:55:47.250 --> 00:55:58.140 Russell Dalgleish: How to optimize your use of linkedin, for example, so linkedin for me as my daily newspaper or i'm the owner i'm the proprietor of this newspaper and I choose what the headlines going to be.
00:55:58.620 --> 00:56:09.600 Russell Dalgleish: And, and that allows that authentic voice to come out and of course we're good for being authentic because it's not what you would naturally expect us to be yeah.
00:56:10.350 --> 00:56:16.350 Graham Dobbin: it's insane and you know, when I look at the traits of leadership so that's probably up there, the top three.
00:56:17.010 --> 00:56:26.070 Graham Dobbin: But someone being authentic kind of empathetic killing off all these kind of things come in and really how to be a leader and we look at all these processes potentially.
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:34.320 Graham Dobbin: But without the human touch so we've got annoyed you're good into process, but we thought that human touch, so it wouldn't kind of all come together.
00:56:34.890 --> 00:56:45.510 Graham Dobbin: And it would end up a time Thank you so much for spending time with us, I know it's a little bit late in in Edinburgh you've been listening to the mind behind leadership.
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:55.800 Graham Dobbin: Life here on talk radio dot nyc Thank you very much the same leibovitz our our producer for today, we will be back next Monday 5pm Eastern.
00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:01.230 Graham Dobbin: With the main dining leadership take care and have a great week thanks again so goodbye.
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:01.800 Russell Dalgleish: Thank you.