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Facebook Live Video from 2024/02/29 - Stages of Epilepsy Review: Juvenile Myoclonic

Facebook Live Video from 2024/02/29 - Stages of Epilepsy Review: Juvenile Myoclonic


2024/02/29 - Stages of Epilepsy Review: Juvenile Myoclonic

[NEW EPISODE] Stages of Epilepsy Review: Juvenile Myoclonic

Thursdays 5:00pm - 6:00pm (EDT)


The audience will see an overview of the stages of epilepsy that we have done on Frank About Health and then have an interview with Faiza and see how her experience with Myoclonic Epilepsy has been a life affirming diagnosis where she has most likely gone through all the stages.

Jeff Demitrack returns to Frank About Health to do a combination retrospective and feature a new guest who has been diagnosed with Epilepsy at a young age and has been living through all the stages of epilepsy in her adult life. She will share her story and we will see if she has checked all the boxes and is now maintaining her quality of life.



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Show Notes

Segment 1

Frank introduces the show by welcoming his guests and informing the audience on the episode’s topic, which is a review of the stages of epilepsy. Josie and Sam return to help remove the stigma around epilepsy. You can find insight on living with epilepsy from Frank, Jeff, Josie, and Sam. Jeff spreads awareness of the fact that 20-30 percent of people who have epilepsy have had head trauma. Josie shared that she was feeling symptoms during the interview, but she was able to calm herself down. Sam shares some symptoms that let her know when she is about to have a seizure and how she has medications to help prevent them. Jeff explains that various types of triggers affect each person differently. Josie, Sam, Frank, and Jeff share their triggers and how they know when a seizure is coming. Jeff shares that he uses holistic therapy to help with his symptoms. 

Segment 2

Returning from the break, Frank recaps the last segment and gives a shout-out to Sam’s podcast, which can be found on YouTube, Google, and Spotify. He also explains that the recurring theme in the episodes about epilepsy was stigma. Frank asks Josie how creating her book helped fight against the stigma of epilepsy. Josie says she wrote her books to help people understand what epileptic patients go through. Frank points out how Josie has been an advocate for children with epilepsy because of the work she has done. Josie and Sam discuss how their menstrual cycle was a trigger for them. Jeff says he wants to try and do an event for epilepsy during May for Mental Health awarness month. 

Segment 3

Frank explains how he and his guest are advocates for epilepsy. They can also give different perspectives on the condition to help others understand their symptoms. Sam and Jeff discuss how there is still a stigma around epilepsy, and it’s difficult to understand the condition when you don’t live with it. Sam shares that someone who struggles with epilepsy won’t always look like they are in distress, which is troubling for the patient because people won’t always take their symptoms seriously. Jeff and Sam discuss how an epileptic patient has to keep themselves healthy so they don’t trigger their symptoms.   

Segment 4

Jeff explains that people with epilepsy can struggle with productivity due to their symptoms being so painful, like chronic headaches. Frank asks Jeff what plans he has to remove the stigma around epilepsy further. Jeff encourages the audience and epileptic patients to get involved with the community and not hesitate to reach out to support groups. Frank encourages his audience to leave comments on Facebook and YouTube with any questions regarding the show. 


00:00:34.870 --> 00:00:40.180 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody! Happy. Weekday, February 20 month 1 24.

00:00:40.270 --> 00:00:54.819 Frank R. Harrison: We are taking a time away from platform available on Instagram.

00:00:55.200 --> 00:01:02.319 Frank R. Harrison: but at the same time we wanted to show a retrospective of the various stages that we had discussed over the past year

00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:03.840 Frank R. Harrison: 2 studies

00:01:04.030 --> 00:01:12.070 Frank R. Harrison: stages in Bob Boris. If you remember the episode when Fuzzy feels lucky as well as following up with epilepsy.

00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:38.739 Frank R. Harrison: Samantha Moreno, our guest, also commonly missed. Sam, has their own podcast available on Kik and Instagram called. we know and I know Josiani, Martinez or Josie has been involved in her podcast and I think I'm still logging for you to get deaf under podcast as well. But we wanna be able to reflect to all of you listeners and viewers out there that

00:01:38.830 --> 00:02:02.449 Frank R. Harrison: you know what frank about health began 2 and a half years ago. It was mainly an epilepsy. Podcast but with the world changing as it has covid. You know that I've been spending most of my time advocating for various health care issues like Covid, like mental health, like epilepsy. But I didn't think of anyone better than to cover it, such as Jeff, because of the fact that he has an entire

00:02:02.450 --> 00:02:09.160 Frank R. Harrison: social media platform dedicated to it. We can put more effort into it and more concentration focus into it.

00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.630 Frank R. Harrison: So for this reason, by presenting the episode as a retrospective.

00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:28.190 Frank R. Harrison: I'm letting all of the listeners and followers know out there that it goes beyond the frank about health platform. It also goes within the social media as well as the healthcare system that is doing already can to continue to find healthcare solutions

00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:54.940 Frank R. Harrison: or even possible cures, procedure, activity, whether it's post traumatic or whether it's genetically based, or whether it's my electronic epilepsy or whether it's anything else that seizure activity cannot be fully explained. Sometime you discuss psychogenesis. But we wanted to really do a retrospective to cover the one fundamental stage that we have continued to talk about on every episode, you know, Frank, about help.

00:02:54.970 --> 00:02:56.940 Frank R. Harrison: which is

00:02:57.250 --> 00:03:01.829 Frank R. Harrison: so. Both Josie and Sam have returned to really dedicate

00:03:01.990 --> 00:03:27.249 Frank R. Harrison: the second and third segments of this show to focus on stigma. First, the goal that Jeff and I have set out to do with epilepsy is, do what we tend to do, move the stigma, and show that people with epilepsy, especially when their teacher free and still live a healthy distance and a high quality of life. Once. They also know how to come back to stigma and use that as their advantage. Whereas we once, said Josie, on our show our superpower.

00:03:27.460 --> 00:03:31.079 Frank R. Harrison: you know. So, ladies and gentlemen, before we go on with the show.

00:03:31.150 --> 00:03:42.070 Frank R. Harrison: I wanna issue my display, and that is that any of the thoughts and you that are presented today are some 4 individuals, myself included, that have lived our lives with epilepsy

00:03:42.300 --> 00:03:57.159 Frank R. Harrison: epile do the medication. We do

00:03:57.160 --> 00:04:15.290 Frank R. Harrison: see the doctors who see the CEO experiment with alternate students, if that's what you're doing. But if you decide that any of the that we present today are worthy of consideration to change their position or your neurologist or your neurop psychiatrists if you have one.

00:04:15.340 --> 00:04:29.759 Frank R. Harrison: And of course, all we can do is be food for thought. They're not the views of talk radio, dot, or up Frank about how or upstages is epilepsy. They are the views of those knowing how to live with it and how to advocate for it.

00:04:30.340 --> 00:04:38.999 Frank R. Harrison: That all being said, Jeff, Josie and Sam, welcome back to Frank about now I'm looking forward for the 4 of us

00:04:39.130 --> 00:04:44.909 Frank R. Harrison: to really look back on the shows that we've done together. But at the same time, like I said earlier.

00:04:44.980 --> 00:04:49.470 Frank R. Harrison: do what we can to dedicate how we are doing

00:04:49.510 --> 00:04:50.750 Frank R. Harrison: to remove space.

00:04:51.960 --> 00:04:53.350 Frank R. Harrison: So welcome aboard.

00:04:54.610 --> 00:04:56.669 Jeff Demitrack: Hi, Frank, how you doing

00:04:57.130 --> 00:05:03.070 Frank R. Harrison: pretty good! Let's start with you, Jeff. What what else would you like to say in terms of the shows that we've got

00:05:03.880 --> 00:05:11.189 Jeff Demitrack: well going into March, which is a head injury awareness month. II would like to say that there is

00:05:11.200 --> 00:05:18.290 Jeff Demitrack: no identifiable cause for almost 50 of people with epilepsy. And

00:05:18.300 --> 00:05:39.300 Jeff Demitrack: there's a about 20 to 30% of people who have epilepsy who have had a head trauma. So that's just a spreading awareness for head trauma head injury awareness month. And so there's gonna be a lot of people posting about that this upcoming march, and a lot of people with

00:05:39.300 --> 00:05:53.329 Jeff Demitrack: have you know, head traumas every day, you know, with car accidents, and falling from ladders and a lot of a lot of those things, so they might be newly diagnosed the epilepsy patients. So

00:05:54.430 --> 00:06:06.490 Frank R. Harrison: Yup, exactly. And, and, Josie, when you were here Frank, about help, you spent your time showing your character, your fuzzy little text that represented the aura. I thought that was classic.

00:06:06.840 --> 00:06:14.040 Frank R. Harrison: Unmute yourself. Yeah, yeah. Both of you are unmute.

00:06:14.330 --> 00:06:18.689 Joseannie Martinez: Okay? Yes. We're lucky, you know he

00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:25.630 Joseannie Martinez: is, you know, talking about. And he is helping as many people as he can, and

00:06:26.180 --> 00:06:54.600 Joseannie Martinez: I mean I feel fuzzy right now. So what can I say? Well, but that's the thing you've learned to overcome that, you know it's an aura, but you know how to and prevent or minimize the risk of having a seizure from that aura. Correct? Yes, I have actually so it's not as intense as it was earlier, because I did calm myself down as much as I possibly could. Yes.

00:06:54.630 --> 00:06:55.839 Joseannie Martinez: yeah, he's here.

00:06:55.950 --> 00:07:10.970 Frank R. Harrison: When we did the show together, where you basically pointing out that one of your challenges when dealing with your aura was after being mindful that it wasn't for us, you had to continue to learn and relearn different queues

00:07:10.970 --> 00:07:33.730 Frank R. Harrison: or ways of whether it's breathing or whether it's taking your medication quickly enough to stop a feature from happening? Or what was the big list that you were trying to advocate at that point? And when you knew an oral was coming, what is it the power that we were not aware that we had present in the moment that it's happening.

00:07:33.980 --> 00:07:35.370 Joseannie Martinez: Patrick.

00:07:36.130 --> 00:07:38.989 Joseannie Martinez: Breathe. I breathe

00:07:39.190 --> 00:07:44.950 Joseannie Martinez: and take my medication. If I know I have not taken it that day.

00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:59.250 Joseannie Martinez: and if I notice, like maybe anxiety induce, I let snap myself out of that anxiety in that moment, and just keep going, and with whatever activity I was in that moment.

00:08:00.220 --> 00:08:01.020 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah.

00:08:05.380 --> 00:08:11.900 Frank R. Harrison: I don't know what to call trigger or indicator that you were about to have. You've been able to manage

00:08:12.090 --> 00:08:14.810 Frank R. Harrison: or anything.

00:08:16.290 --> 00:08:20.290 Joseannie Martinez: Oh, I didn't hear you that. Well, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. This is.

00:08:21.330 --> 00:08:24.760 Samantha Moreno: I'm sorry you cut you kind of cut off for a second for me.

00:08:42.740 --> 00:08:46.919 Samantha Moreno: for me. My eyes twitch

00:08:47.310 --> 00:08:49.310 Samantha Moreno: so when

00:08:49.530 --> 00:08:53.010 Samantha Moreno: when they twitch consistently or

00:08:53.650 --> 00:09:06.730 Samantha Moreno: they twitch, and I my head starts to hurt. That's when I know I might have a seizure. And it actually happened to me during work today. It was the first time that it's happened at work.

00:09:06.850 --> 00:09:13.430 Samantha Moreno: and I was so embarrassed because it happened in front of a co-worker, and they were kinda just shocked.

00:09:13.800 --> 00:09:21.210 Samantha Moreno: So immediately I took my rescue medicine to kind of prevent me from having a seizure.

00:09:21.990 --> 00:09:27.150 Frank R. Harrison: So then, I guess, Jeff, what we see is that

00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:33.510 Frank R. Harrison: for me, I know mine is genetically based, and I can see your free minus the partial.

00:09:33.550 --> 00:09:49.760 Frank R. Harrison: So for me, it's literally feeling my environment, or like you, said Jose. In the presence for you, you have ongoing recurrence seizures even with medication. So there might be some other clinical basis for it, like like stress like you talked about in your book

00:09:49.980 --> 00:10:07.229 Frank R. Harrison: right? And then for you, Josie. It's your aura, and for you, Sam, it's headaches for switches. So would you say that with those 4 differences that they follow the various stages of epilepsy, or they are all part of the same picture

00:10:07.250 --> 00:10:10.029 Frank R. Harrison: that we just have a reaction different from others.

00:10:10.190 --> 00:10:26.050 Jeff Demitrack: Well, there's a so many different types of triggers, and everybody is different when it comes to that. And you you might not even know that what is causing your seizure. Some people don't feel it coming on when it comes to ores.

00:10:26.050 --> 00:10:52.439 Jeff Demitrack: But I would say that if you don't happen, or that you should just be wary, that something doesn't feel right, because a lot of times II don't feel my aura, which is usually that I'm losing my hearing, or some sort of deja vu? But you know I there's still something out of place right before I have my seizure. I'm not really feeling myself

00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:57.089 Jeff Demitrack: feeling some sort of anxiety, some sort of sort of irritability.

00:10:57.680 --> 00:10:59.060 Samantha Moreno: Yeah.

00:10:59.570 --> 00:11:00.660 Jeff Demitrack: yeah. So

00:11:00.860 --> 00:11:04.089 Frank R. Harrison: your case, Jeff. In your case, Sam

00:11:04.590 --> 00:11:23.160 Frank R. Harrison: Jeff, would you say yours is in mental health category, and your stem is in the neurological, like migraines, Miguel Lepsie, or both, about the same level of degree of of focus, you know, in terms of the trigger.

00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.050 Samantha Moreno: I think my triggers come from

00:11:26.180 --> 00:11:36.499 Samantha Moreno: stress. you know, stress on my body or stress. Whatever emotional mental stress I'm going through that seems to be the biggest

00:11:36.890 --> 00:11:41.790 Samantha Moreno: trigger for me. Besides, my my menstrual cycle.

00:11:41.950 --> 00:11:43.649 Samantha Moreno: So I think

00:11:43.730 --> 00:11:46.129 Joseannie Martinez: learning how to

00:11:46.530 --> 00:11:53.470 Samantha Moreno:  relax basically and kinda work on my mental health.

00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.740 Samantha Moreno: You know it. It helps a lot. Yeah.

00:11:57.300 --> 00:11:59.249 Frank R. Harrison: okay. And then use that.

00:11:59.340 --> 00:12:02.589 Frank R. Harrison: You you have ongoing.

00:12:02.990 --> 00:12:14.589 Frank R. Harrison: And you already know that your are you working with a therapist at the same time.

00:12:14.670 --> 00:12:29.239 Frank R. Harrison: No, II don't work with any therapists, but II do use a holistic therapies like supplements, you know, in order to help my case in order to make sure that I don't have a bad month.

00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:53.260 Jeff Demitrack: because the anti combulsance I take I take a a mix of them, and they still don't control my seizures fully. So you know, II always suggest to people that they, you know, if their seizures aren't fully controlled with the medication. So there's no no harm in taking a magnesium supplement, because really, the once you go into the hospital for seizures, that's the first thing they give you

00:12:53.320 --> 00:13:05.459 Jeff Demitrack: is a magnesium drip. So they I th, there's no problem with that. It usually doesn't inter act with your medications negatively. So you know. There, it's not a problem.

00:13:06.430 --> 00:13:18.680 Frank R. Harrison: Okay? So, ladies and gentlemen, you've heard in introduction to our retrospective show that overall meaning epilepsy can come from a various array of sources minus genetic.

00:13:18.910 --> 00:13:28.790 Frank R. Harrison: I think, Jeff, you may have suffered a fall or something, or was it also just naturally developed over time?

00:13:29.250 --> 00:13:38.259 Jeff Demitrack: There was a few factors. I had an infection. I had a head trauma had Lyme's disease. So all those can bring on epilepsy.

00:13:38.820 --> 00:13:44.740 Frank R. Harrison: Okay? So also in Sam. you pointed out that probably just

00:13:44.750 --> 00:13:57.049 Frank R. Harrison: the email with a Metro cycle that may have been a trigger for you. I am only making an assumption. Please correct me if I'm wrong, you know, and I guess the thing with you. Josie, is that your book?

00:13:57.230 --> 00:14:12.269 Frank R. Harrison: And the way you've been able to really look at your epilepsy as a means of advocacy is inspirational. So ladies and gentlemen, when we return on this episode of Frank about help, we're gonna hear more about that book again. We're gonna review the episode we did when Fuzzy feels lucky.

00:14:12.330 --> 00:14:24.769 Frank R. Harrison: And gonna hear more of what you're doing in the next few months and we'll be right here on top video that mit it'll be on Instagram after this video code

00:14:24.970 --> 00:14:27.449 Frank R. Harrison: as well as on our social

00:14:27.520 --> 00:14:32.239 Frank R. Harrison: Youtube, Linkedin and Twitter. I appreciate the regression with you.

00:16:44.670 --> 00:17:03.459 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody in welcome back, Jeff and I have created. And we have some of our top guests here that have been on those shows Josie Martinez and Sam Moreno. Sister, recap, which I don't know if might be the beginning segment.

00:17:03.520 --> 00:17:31.229 Frank R. Harrison: We talked about microfi Sigma advocacy, lucky and holistic therapy and mental health. Now, I guess maybe that was one of our shows that we did together. That was where I came up with that unique aspect of Sam's experience is that she has her own epilepsy, podcast that is available. And again, is it on hiccup or is it on Instagram, or both.

00:17:31.870 --> 00:17:37.310 Samantha Moreno: My podcast is available on spotify Youtube, Amazon and Google.

00:17:38.130 --> 00:17:50.380 Frank R. Harrison: hey, great. Okay? So yeah, everybody out there who's gonna guest on frank about help and has epilepsy. That is the next place to go to. Really tell your story, you know, including you there.

00:17:50.390 --> 00:17:54.149 Frank R. Harrison: I'll be there eventually.

00:17:54.190 --> 00:18:01.149 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly. Well, I wanna ask both Josie Samantha

00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:15.160 Frank R. Harrison: and me to spend the next 2 segments with Tom Hari Jeff on Sigma. That was occurring soon, like every episode that we have done. I wanna start with you, Josie, because you literally was very creative

00:18:15.170 --> 00:18:25.299 Frank R. Harrison: in dealing with stigma in the way that you use the character to describe your auras and made into a nice, pretty cat. I remember the Eeg picture.

00:18:25.390 --> 00:18:26.940 Frank R. Harrison: He does.

00:18:26.950 --> 00:18:36.069 Frank R. Harrison: Lucky first, Eeg, I believe it was called. Can you tell me if that creating, creating that whole book

00:18:36.170 --> 00:18:49.360 Frank R. Harrison: was an issue of just combating your own suffering from feeders and auras, and not knowing at that time how to manage them that you use it as a creative outlet to look at it

00:18:49.460 --> 00:18:57.390 Frank R. Harrison: as an opportunity in the sky. Is that was that a stigma coping mechanism? Or was it something else

00:18:57.680 --> 00:18:58.580 Frank R. Harrison: for you?

00:18:59.070 --> 00:19:09.159 Joseannie Martinez: Well, it was something else like, I just wanted people to not be scared to do these procedures, especially little kids.

00:19:09.180 --> 00:19:17.229 Joseannie Martinez: and especially the misconceptions of what it is that we go through to, you know, understand the test that we have to deal with

00:19:17.850 --> 00:19:30.480 Joseannie Martinez: overall. The books that I wrote it was for people to have a better idea of what it is that we go through, and I feel like that has helped a lot, especially since we do

00:19:30.560 --> 00:19:43.649 Joseannie Martinez: advocate and speak a lot about our stories that has open doors for people to fully understand, not fully, but almost there, for them to understand what it is that we go through.

00:19:44.250 --> 00:19:49.069 Joseannie Martinez: So I feel the books have helped a lot when it comes to people

00:19:49.430 --> 00:19:53.590 Joseannie Martinez: understand what it is that we deal with.

00:19:53.870 --> 00:19:56.930 Joseannie Martinez: and it has helped others share their stories as well.

00:19:57.820 --> 00:20:03.349 Frank R. Harrison: When you treated the book. What was your majority of audience, children, or was it the parents of the children.

00:20:03.800 --> 00:20:10.880 Joseannie Martinez: It was children, but obviously the parents were the ones that are were going to be buying the books.

00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:18.950 Joseannie Martinez: and I in my head. I didn't think that adults were going to love it as much as kids.

00:20:20.250 --> 00:20:30.149 Joseannie Martinez: because so many people were like, oh, I wish I would have had this book when I was first diagnosed or when I was a kid. And

00:20:30.350 --> 00:20:35.820 Joseannie Martinez: to me that was an amazing feeling. I didn't expect that response

00:20:35.950 --> 00:20:37.080 Joseannie Martinez: honestly.

00:20:39.570 --> 00:20:44.679 Frank R. Harrison: So that was therapeutic unto itself. Would you say that as you were writing the book and creating the images

00:20:44.710 --> 00:20:51.540 Frank R. Harrison: that you stop having seizures, or where you're always more in tune with you, or you became more in tune with your always. Rather

00:20:51.630 --> 00:21:02.440 Joseannie Martinez: II well, since I first started writing about my story on Instagram, I definitely became more in tune with myself, for sure.

00:21:02.950 --> 00:21:07.109 Joseannie Martinez: Yes, especially in that writing. The book in general definitely did

00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:08.510 Joseannie Martinez: help me

00:21:08.890 --> 00:21:16.220 Joseannie Martinez: as as as long and as it also helped others. It helps me even more, because it just made me feel so

00:21:16.270 --> 00:21:18.080 Joseannie Martinez: good about

00:21:18.710 --> 00:21:43.910 Joseannie Martinez: my journey.

00:21:44.100 --> 00:21:45.570 Joseannie Martinez: Thought about

00:21:45.630 --> 00:21:50.649 Joseannie Martinez: I just, and I haven't. But I haven't taken the steps to doing just yet.

00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:59.859 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah, you're still keeping same balance within your own life, and at the same time probably expanding upon your book collection.

00:21:59.860 --> 00:22:26.110 Frank R. Harrison: II know I switched the title to try to really focus on the auras, but yet, whether that was my own little brain swap or not. If anything, it still falls on the whole concept of advocacy. You definitely, whether you knew it or not. Whether that was your intention or not, you definitely have become an advocate for many children. Speaking of which my chronic epilepsy we we were Jeff and I were talking with a potential yes.

00:22:26.310 --> 00:22:55.560 Frank R. Harrison: that was suffering from Mitosonic epilepsy, and upon doing some research on it, a lot of it develops when you are a child, and it's about your muscle switching and doing all of these activities that don't really do feature activity. Would you say that you were discovering that maybe you had your own form epilepsy? It's weird because I looked at my baby pictures, and it looks like I was very tense as a child

00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:10.940 Joseannie Martinez: like I would see like pictures of myself as a baby, and I would be like just always like tense. And I was like, maybe I did as a child have these the signs.

00:23:11.310 --> 00:23:13.249 Joseannie Martinez: and no one really noticed.

00:23:14.550 --> 00:23:21.999 Joseannie Martinez: Cause I did have like night terrors when I was like 10 and 11.

00:23:22.710 --> 00:23:25.809 Joseannie Martinez: Yeah, I wasn't part of it.

00:23:26.060 --> 00:23:35.269 Joseannie Martinez: Yes, and even when I, even before I had the night terrorist, I would have like these weird episodes, and no one really understood.

00:23:36.190 --> 00:23:48.320 Joseannie Martinez: And then I had the night terrace, and it happened, maybe just like a few times, and then they stopped. And then, after that, I can't really recall if I was having any other like

00:23:48.710 --> 00:24:04.989 Joseannie Martinez: episode or other events that I can't remember. But then, once you know, I had my first seizure with do I had my period at the time, my menstrual cycle. That definitely was one of the triggers.

00:24:05.770 --> 00:24:22.740 Joseannie Martinez: and I was stressed at the time due to I can say a traumatic event that I had experience. So I it was definitely like a trauma stress. And my menstrual cycle, so all that could have like been a huge part that could've

00:24:23.050 --> 00:24:25.459 Joseannie Martinez: just smashed together and

00:24:25.570 --> 00:24:39.459 Frank R. Harrison: and became more than planning, maybe became more mental. Health related or always became. The big litmus test became the big indicator for you to manage your condition.

00:24:39.970 --> 00:24:58.159 Frank R. Harrison: Now. I know that you've worked both with Jeff on a conference you did a few months ago as well as being on Sam's. Podcast would you like to share with those that hadn't had only seen you 6 months ago? How those occurrences happened, or what it did for your book, or what it did for you, even.

00:24:58.540 --> 00:25:00.720 Joseannie Martinez: Okay.

00:25:00.740 --> 00:25:14.729 Joseannie Martinez: Well, II love being on the episode of Sam. That was awesome, like the girl talk and just learning about her in general that was awesome. Well, help me understand.

00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:34.529 Joseannie Martinez: Her app, like her side of epilepsy, and it was interesting. And it's just like, you know, the more we learn about each other. And our own journeys is just like, Wow, like, it's like we deal with so much. But we still keep going.

00:25:34.540 --> 00:25:47.390 Joseannie Martinez: and it's to me that's just awesome. And you know I love what she does. I love how she, how talking to everyone and everyone that she gets on her episodes, and

00:25:47.390 --> 00:26:05.090 Joseannie Martinez: it's it's honestly just amazing. And then, Jeff, the event that we had I honestly it was so much fun to me. That was a great time him talking about his journey and meeting him, his girlfriend, and his family. That was a good time, and also his

00:26:05.510 --> 00:26:19.360 Joseannie Martinez: perspective on what we go through in the stigma as well. That stays honestly on my mind a lot that opened up like a whole different part of

00:26:19.650 --> 00:26:25.580 Joseannie Martinez: like a whole different, like path or doorway. I'm Jackie.

00:26:25.710 --> 00:26:27.520 Frank R. Harrison: And then a new point of view.

00:26:27.580 --> 00:26:28.850 Joseannie Martinez: exactly.

00:26:28.910 --> 00:26:37.509 Joseannie Martinez: for sure definitely did. That was that was fun. It was a good event, and I ended up meeting.

00:26:37.890 --> 00:27:01.090 Joseannie Martinez: You know people there that still, you know, follow me to this day, and that was that was a good. That was a great New Jersey.

00:27:01.490 --> 00:27:27.590 Jeff Demitrack: Yeah, in New Jersey. And there was a lot of interactions with other events. So we didn't get as many PE people as we would have liked. But I we might try May, which is mental health awareness month and have more correspondence with the hospital nearby, which has a big epilepsy unit so that you know, that would maybe get a lot of more people.

00:27:28.760 --> 00:27:44.379 Frank R. Harrison: And hopefully, it may help be able to come home as well. I definitely do want to attend. III can say that we're up to head for a second break. But now I'm gonna turn the table, since Sam is a resident podcaster, and we wanna talk about her view on seeing my insects and 3.

00:27:44.380 --> 00:28:04.559 Frank R. Harrison: I'm gonna let both Jeff and Josie, who wasn't guest on her. So interview her. And I'll sit here and observe and listen alright. So when we return right here on Frank about help. We will still cover our ongoing retrospective on stage with Sigma being the main conversation for this episode.

00:28:04.560 --> 00:28:19.300 Frank R. Harrison: and we will have both Jeff and Josie, talk with Sam about her life living with epilepsy, how she's managing, how she's advocating for it. But her podcast, and, more importantly, her views on same month. We'll be back in a few minutes.

00:28:19.510 --> 00:28:46.680 Joseannie Martinez: Everybody. It's Tommy D, the nonprofit sector connector coming at you from my attic each week. Here on talk, radio, dot. Nyc, I host the program call Amp up in focus. Nonprofits impact us each and every day, and it's my focus to help them amplify their message and tell their story. Listen each week at 10 Am. Eastern Standard time until 11 Am. Eastern Standard time right here on talk radio, Dot, Nyc.

00:30:20.580 --> 00:30:32.819 Frank R. Harrison: hey, and welcome back. We're in segment 3 right now. If you just heard my commercial message, if you were when you rely on Advocate well, this particular show

00:30:33.120 --> 00:30:41.300 Frank R. Harrison: for advocate that we are all trying to explain that there are various people go through with having epilepsy.

00:30:41.300 --> 00:31:04.610 Frank R. Harrison: very trauma, or whether it's genetically based. And during the seizure I develop retractable, partial, because I bang my head repeatedly well, outside. That was a lot of fun.

00:31:04.610 --> 00:31:19.830 Frank R. Harrison: Well, the main point of this. Now talk about the importance of advocacy, which is one tool to remove Sigma and the person that is on this panel that is stronger than myself. I have

00:31:19.830 --> 00:31:38.149 Frank R. Harrison: right now, Jeff and Joseph, I'm gonna let this section see your chance, because you are to uncover, not just the episode, but also her views on stigma, and how advocacy is important in dealing with it.

00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:41.240 Frank R. Harrison: Florida. Okay? So

00:31:41.540 --> 00:31:45.809 Jeff Demitrack: so from our previous episode about epilepsy and stigma.

00:31:45.870 --> 00:32:15.370 Jeff Demitrack: it's still so prevalent because there is still so much about epilepsy that is not visible. It's a and you know an outsider doesn't see, and a person with epilepsy might cancel plans. And you you think that you know they're being rude or something, but really they have so much that there is still going on. And you know a lot of the people that you've interviewed, Sam? You probably have expressed this to you. Am I right?

00:32:15.570 --> 00:32:24.070 Samantha Moreno: Yes, not only people that I've interviewed, but people that I have conversations with through Instagram

00:32:24.230 --> 00:32:27.419 Samantha Moreno: a lot of people

00:32:27.890 --> 00:32:37.090 Samantha Moreno: feel like they have to kinda keep up with other people, and they don't. They're not being understood.

00:32:37.410 --> 00:32:49.829 Samantha Moreno: because, you know, we're not. We don't feel great all the time like II mentioned right before we we started. I wasn't feeling great. I had to take a rescue medicine to

00:32:49.870 --> 00:33:02.219 Samantha Moreno: make sure that I didn't have a seizure. And thankfully, I'm feeling much better now. But a lot of people. you know. They have to cancel plans, and

00:33:02.410 --> 00:33:15.180 Samantha Moreno: and that's the hard thing about epilepsy. You know you. We don't look like we're sick. We don't have I guess that appearance. If you. If we were walking down the street.

00:33:15.620 --> 00:33:29.720 Samantha Moreno: no one would know that we have epilepsy, that we're dealing with this chronic illness. and when you have a invisible illness like that it makes things harder because they're like. But you look fine.

00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:55.930 Samantha Moreno: What do you? What do you mean. What do you mean? You can't. You can't come to the party, or to the dinner, or whatever it may be, you know. You look great, you look fine. But it's how we're feeling. It's we need that extra rest. And it's so funny. Because, my last podcast episode was on self care. And I talked about giving yourself that time to rest, to heal, and it's not selfish

00:33:55.930 --> 00:34:00.220 Samantha Moreno: for us to give us. Give ourselves that that time.

00:34:00.790 --> 00:34:03.020 Joseannie Martinez:  Sam.

00:34:03.180 --> 00:34:11.519 Joseannie Martinez: Oh, this is me just me right now. So back to like buses, women and their hormones.

00:34:11.850 --> 00:34:19.030 Joseannie Martinez: So I'm ovulating at the moment. It's like just putting it out there. Cause this is just

00:34:19.080 --> 00:34:25.139 Joseannie Martinez: so. And I feel like those days of the month I get like this, more

00:34:25.900 --> 00:34:30.139 Joseannie Martinez: like I get my, yes, so that's

00:34:30.489 --> 00:34:34.189 Joseannie Martinez: war, I think, is triggering me, feeling like this.

00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:52.649 Samantha Moreno: Yes, yeah, yeah. I definitely understand you because I am the same way. When we did the podcast episode together. We talked a little bit about it, but there are times where I am on my period. I cannot get out of bed.

00:34:52.690 --> 00:35:02.399 Samantha Moreno: I have to force myself to get out of bed. I have to force myself to even eat, because I do not have the appetite. I do not.

00:35:02.520 --> 00:35:14.699 Samantha Moreno: I just wanna be in bed all day, and I just wanna sleep that entire week. But because I have responsibilities, I really have to force myself to do these things and

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:22.100 Samantha Moreno: and eating, you know, if I don't eat possible possible seizure. So I really have to

00:35:22.340 --> 00:35:29.689 Samantha Moreno: take not only balance my life, but at the same time give myself that rest, and

00:35:29.780 --> 00:35:38.289 Samantha Moreno: you know. keep it. Keep it moving with all my responsibilities that I got going on. Yeah, it's it's it's hard.

00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:57.899 Jeff Demitrack: Yeah. I mean you mentioned stress as being one of the biggest triggers, but also sleep, deprivation and and diet are, you know, up there as in the top 5 as well, and they can be. You know, if you're not eating well, you you definitely are having more seizures.

00:35:57.990 --> 00:36:22.500 Samantha Moreno: Yes, that's why I like II really, I'm trying to eat a lot better and just incorporate more of a balanced meal. Not only that, but also exercise when I can cause, you know. Sometimes I'm just. I don't feel well, and I give my body that rest. And then the next day, if I'm okay, I'll do a little bit of a lighter workout.

00:36:22.700 --> 00:36:28.899 Samantha Moreno: And then if the next day I feel great, then okay, it's a little bit heavier. But I kinda

00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:36.489 Samantha Moreno: I kind of you know, am flexible with what workouts I do just to.

00:36:36.720 --> 00:36:39.339 Samantha Moreno: and so I don't overstress my body.

00:36:40.550 --> 00:37:08.839 Jeff Demitrack: And I and I think people you they shouldn't be so hard on themselves when it comes to working out, you know, every day, and if they can't work out, you know, be hard on themselves, because really it's hard for everyone to keep a a steady routine of workouts. So just take a taking. A walk is fine, you know. They have to realize that. And not only not only that, you know. You're when you take a walk you're exercising.

00:37:08.890 --> 00:37:27.390 Samantha Moreno: and it's good for your mental health. You kinda get that clarity, you know. I like to listen to music, and just be by myself when I go on a walk. So I think, overall everything, all your mental health, your physical health. Everything. It just it. It helps a lot. And and walking.

00:37:27.420 --> 00:37:32.769 Samantha Moreno: you know, do like 5 min. Start with 5 min. Start with 10 min.

00:37:32.820 --> 00:37:35.709 Samantha Moreno: you know. Don't! Don't compare yourself

00:37:35.790 --> 00:37:48.730 Samantha Moreno: to those people who are at the gym. 24, 7. Don't do that. I did that. Don't do that. You you work it with how you're feeling and what works for you

00:37:49.110 --> 00:38:09.840 Jeff Demitrack: mentioned how you know some people with epilepsy they look like. They're not sick, and they look they might look very healthy, and and a lot of those people they cope with their epilepsy by doing yoga, or by going to the gym all the time. And maybe that's why they look so healthy. But they're still having seizures, though.

00:38:09.870 --> 00:38:13.010 Samantha Moreno: Yeah.

00:38:13.090 --> 00:38:31.050 Frank R. Harrison: so far, apparently the the way that we're able to overcome this while still dealing with our treatments and minimizing feature activity is through our perspective. I mean, I could see that taking a proactive stance, such as

00:38:31.220 --> 00:38:42.789 Frank R. Harrison: creating A podcast as we both have done. You means you use them and myself or Josey, the way that you created those books, and yes, your platform that you've been operating with since we first met.

00:38:43.180 --> 00:38:48.170 Frank R. Harrison: It keeps a balance, then those that are not. you know.

00:38:48.190 --> 00:39:14.480 Frank R. Harrison: those that are suffering from epilepsy, but not taking initiative. They probably feel they're on a downward spiral all the time. So the common thread is not just stigma, but it's mental health, perception self esteem motivation all of that which therapists can help with. But at the end of the day I think, Josie, like you said, if epilepsy is our superpower

00:39:14.510 --> 00:39:19.740 Frank R. Harrison: now we are in the position to take total control of our viewpoint.

00:39:20.120 --> 00:39:26.290 Frank R. Harrison: make our negatives become positive. I mean, that gives us the ability to be more creative than most.

00:39:26.370 --> 00:39:42.169 Frank R. Harrison: And I think what I'm hoping each of you are doing. And I'm gonna run through each of you after I ask this question, what are you doing to make people change their perspective, that their Fl is more of a fit and not a problem starting to do better?

00:39:42.350 --> 00:39:54.270 Samantha Moreno: Well, that's really what helped me accept my epilepsy. You know I had that conversation with my older brother, and he changed my perspective because I always thought my epilepsy was some curse.

00:39:54.330 --> 00:39:59.039 Samantha Moreno: And until I had that conversation with my older brother and

00:39:59.150 --> 00:40:13.939 Samantha Moreno: I realized, like my epilepsy isn't occurs, you know. Maybe I can do something to help people within and make them feel like they're not the only ones. And you know they have a community that they can relate to.

00:40:14.160 --> 00:40:22.339 Samantha Moreno: So I really try. because that helped me. I really try to show people like, Hey.

00:40:22.350 --> 00:40:34.130 Samantha Moreno: let's not always focus on the negative things about epilepsy. Let's focus on the positive things. And, you know, be grateful for

00:40:34.260 --> 00:40:37.250 Samantha Moreno: our lives. no matter how it

00:40:39.120 --> 00:40:47.780 Frank R. Harrison: and the way you also responded to your brother's insight was like shortly thereafter? Or was it like couple of years later.

00:40:48.230 --> 00:41:04.009 Samantha Moreno: No. It was so. I was working on starting my social media, my podcast. Everything for a year. And then last year was when I officially launched everything and

00:41:04.170 --> 00:41:05.710 Samantha Moreno: yeah, I kinda

00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:19.479 Samantha Moreno: I kinda I kinda got out of my shell a little, cause I'm not. I'm not used to being in front of the camera thing. I it's so. It was an adjustment for me that was more of like stay in the back type of girl.

00:41:19.580 --> 00:41:20.940 Samantha Moreno: but

00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:31.710 Samantha Moreno: I mean, if it II just I just didn't want people to feel like they were alone dealing with this cause. That's how I felt when I was dealing with my epilepsy, and I didn't accept it.

00:41:31.750 --> 00:41:41.419 Samantha Moreno: I felt like I was very alone, and I had no one to turn to, so I thought, if I can just create this community and help people. And you know.

00:41:41.460 --> 00:41:48.460 Samantha Moreno: maybe at least one person won't feel like they're dealing with their epilepsy by themselves.

00:41:49.170 --> 00:42:08.359 Frank R. Harrison: Right? I mean, that's the whole point about stigma. If people can't understand the illness itself because it's not tangible, they just decide to put a label attached to the symptoms you're suffering from. So, for example, death during a seizure, you, you said on previous show and suffered a psychotic break. So immediately you're labeled is not

00:42:08.410 --> 00:42:11.109 Frank R. Harrison: alright for you, Sam. If you're suffering.

00:42:11.260 --> 00:42:30.069 Frank R. Harrison: I guess something more psychogenic in nature. I think we were just saying that you would just have switches, and whatever people would think you were not listening to them, and they started insulting you for being disrespectful for you, Josie, if you're having all these auras they could say, Oh, you possess right now, so that creates the stigma.

00:42:30.080 --> 00:42:41.799 Frank R. Harrison: someone else contributing what's going on with you rather than owning or or understanding what you really do have. And I think what this platform allows us all to do

00:42:41.900 --> 00:42:57.289 Frank R. Harrison: is vocalize it upfront and just say it up front. So get all your stigma out of the way, and if you want to put, attach, label, attach the right list, and that's where our responsibility is is to make people give you the right perception they should have.

00:42:57.450 --> 00:43:01.929 Frank R. Harrison: I mean, maybe that's why I called it Frank about help I had. That is my name, Keith.

00:43:01.970 --> 00:43:07.070 Frank R. Harrison: but I'm just gonna be open about. This is what we're talking about, and either accept it or reject it.

00:43:07.370 --> 00:43:09.000 Frank R. Harrison: Use your call.

00:43:09.100 --> 00:43:22.000 Frank R. Harrison: and now we're about to go to our final break. But I did start with Sam. I think, Josie, the way that you've been able to advocate if you were thinking more of the children. Obviously the Home book and character of Lucky.

00:43:22.180 --> 00:43:31.739 Frank R. Harrison: and symbolizing your rack and character, allowed you to do, personalize it, not, take it personally and be depressed about it, but allow you to create a nice.

00:43:31.850 --> 00:43:54.029 Frank R. Harrison: vibrant little creature that everyone can pet and comfort and support others. So that's you projecting the way you would have wanted to be support. I think that was pretty much what you would have answered. Correct. Yes, that sounds about right. Because

00:43:54.190 --> 00:44:13.139 Frank R. Harrison: absolutely. And I'm gonna save your interpretation, Jeff, to my question for the last segment of the show, because that's what I want you to really let the audience know all about your platform. But the thing is is II really wholeheartedly agree with both you, Sam, and both. And you, Josie.

00:44:13.140 --> 00:44:30.990 Frank R. Harrison: that if we are dealing with epilepsy. We have a gift, we have a super power. Our role is to advocate, support, others, inform others and correct the perception that you can, and if they're not selected, those people are not meant to be around you, especially when you move forward through your own vision and your own life.

00:44:30.990 --> 00:44:57.959 Frank R. Harrison: Alright, ladies and gentlemen! Wow! This conversation has gone faster than I expected. I'm really glad we've had the opportunity to do a lot of reflection on the various stages of epilepsy. But we'll return right here on Frank about help. We're gonna wrap up with some comments on my own epilepsy as well as hear a lot to Jeff about what the stages of upt platform is gonna be doing in the coming year, and then I'll let you stam. And Josie, with some final comments, to share with everybody

00:44:58.110 --> 00:44:59.230 Frank R. Harrison: the

00:44:59.290 --> 00:45:19.789 Frank R. Harrison: growth oriented leader. Are you interested in developing your authentic leadership while creating a healthy, inclusive workplace?

00:47:14.990 --> 00:47:31.260 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody and welcome back overall. The reason why I am at location in New York City at the Empire State of Starbucks Reserve is, I'm actually celebrating what I'm celebrating is the fortieth anniversary of my very first seizure.

00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:59.099 Frank R. Harrison: Actually it was March fifteenth, 19, or even before. But I like to give it a head start, especially since we're on a lead day. But that all being said, I couldn't think of another way to better celebrate that, and to be with 3 top people that have been on Frank about health over the past year, and talked about their own stories and their own experiences with that collection. How they've learned to advocate, manage their their stress level medications and other alternative treatment.

00:47:59.210 --> 00:48:06.770 Frank R. Harrison: I can only recommend doctors, if you need any, I think. Sam, we talked about.

00:48:06.870 --> 00:48:16.719 Frank R. Harrison: But he did mention something about psychodel. I think that was part of our discussion on the episode we did together. You were dealing with features as well.

00:48:17.160 --> 00:48:20.360 Frank R. Harrison: Pretty good, buddy.

00:48:21.290 --> 00:48:31.799 Samantha Moreno: There's so many theories honestly. But II have considered that just because of like my triggers and what it was happening

00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:42.640 Samantha Moreno: when I first got that diagnosed with epilepsy. So I mean, I'm kind of branching out to see. Okay, what do I got

00:48:42.980 --> 00:49:00.319 Frank R. Harrison: anything? I think the 4 of us have been able to manage our life accordingly. I think you know another guest that we thought we would have today. Actually. So you just have one. Last night

00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:15.189 Frank R. Harrison: before we were here. You, Josie, were saying that you were feeling heavy. You know I myself have my days where, even though I think you're free of the brand.

00:49:15.430 --> 00:49:17.620 Frank R. Harrison: I do take some time

00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:37.480 Frank R. Harrison: now.

00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.829 Frank R. Harrison: A worker right? Well, it's set to do. And again.

00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:54.930 Frank R. Harrison: in order for us to avoid letting stigma affect at all. We just have to use those that are not just for our phone

00:49:55.070 --> 00:49:58.029 Frank R. Harrison: and not good for the relative self esteem

00:49:58.110 --> 00:50:06.439 Frank R. Harrison: and place in this world, especially as we're on mission to advocate for health care as well as the others through our various platforms.

00:50:06.780 --> 00:50:29.780 Frank R. Harrison: Sam, you definitely have. From what I see your number you like, keep getting alert on your show and your desk. You definitely have something very powerful out there looking forward to you should show it from you and Josie, I look forward to hear about next episode, of whatever luck he's going through. But, Jeff, now's your time to talk about what your whole platform gonna be doing

00:50:30.610 --> 00:50:55.540 Jeff Demitrack: well. We were just talking about mental health, and I was gonna comment on that. And you know, when you're spreading awareness on epilepsy on your social media. You can also spread awareness for mental health at the same time. So because really, the the comorbidities that people have with that epilepsy with when it comes to anxiety and depression, something that we've touched on. And

00:50:55.540 --> 00:51:07.509 Jeff Demitrack: our past shows the percentage is very high. Yes, so it. And really it doesn't stop with anxiety and depression. And there's many other mental illnesses. And and

00:51:07.510 --> 00:51:32.409 Jeff Demitrack: when it comes to other physical illnesses as well, when it comes to I would say autoimmune and migraines, and you know, but you know, just you know, chronic pain in general. So you know we were. Gonna talk about that with our guest today, but she wasn't able to make it, but she has a intense chronic pain, and a lot of people with epilepsy they'll have chronic headaches or chronic migraines, and

00:51:32.410 --> 00:51:41.189 Jeff Demitrack: you know they get it all the time, and it's a reason to not be productive one day, because you just can't do anything.

00:51:41.190 --> 00:51:47.259 Jeff Demitrack: Yeah, it's a a real issue issue, a real problem that people can have. Yes, so

00:51:48.060 --> 00:51:56.469 Frank R. Harrison: and I mean, if anything, you're talking about a combination of epilepsy.

00:51:56.740 --> 00:51:57.899 Frank R. Harrison: please hold.

00:51:58.180 --> 00:52:05.450 Jeff Demitrack: I guess that's

00:52:05.570 --> 00:52:23.980 Frank R. Harrison: but either way the thing is is that in terms of the various, whether it's or even

00:52:24.020 --> 00:52:39.499 Frank R. Harrison: we should say that that is the condition of.

00:52:39.500 --> 00:52:56.180 Frank R. Harrison: or whatever I think

00:52:56.180 --> 00:53:13.359 Frank R. Harrison: platform to do. A messenger.

00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:21.390 Frank R. Harrison: So I think, if anything, Jeff, what plans do you have going forward in terms of further removing the same one?

00:53:21.390 --> 00:53:45.669 Jeff Demitrack: Well, I think it's so important for someone to get involved with the community, because, you know, they don't feel isolated. They don't feel alone, you know. Go on some of the walks getting go into some of the the local. You know.

00:53:45.720 --> 00:54:04.070 Jeff Demitrack: events that they might have, whether that's a support group or something like that, because a lot of times people fall into this deep depression. And they they don't get to see people that are also going through the same issues, the same problems that the that other people with epilepsy are going through.

00:54:04.070 --> 00:54:26.800 Jeff Demitrack: and a and mo most of the time the the main issue is probably depression and thoughts of suicide. Thoughts of you know of isolation. And you know, not having that idea that nobody can relate. So II it's important to meet someone else that you know, really has struggled with the same struggles.

00:54:27.500 --> 00:54:44.179 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, and it's important that the Forum touch to what we've done to make sure that if we don't find any individual that is just developing epilepsy or just been diagnosed with it, or we actually watch it through your that person from getting sick or biting their software.

00:54:44.180 --> 00:54:59.070 Frank R. Harrison: or whatever that we also see there, you know, at the end of the day epilepsy individuals will feel alone if people don't understand what they're going through simply not having the experience

00:54:59.070 --> 00:55:22.889 Frank R. Harrison: themselves. And I think that the fortune that we have is by creating a network individual that are like literally we will be able to create to pretty much help each other, you know. Overall ladies and gentlemen, we're about to end the show. I think, Josie, Sam. And of course you, Jeff.

00:55:22.910 --> 00:55:29.220 Frank R. Harrison: for coming at the last minute to do what we can to provide a retrospective of what literally

00:55:29.240 --> 00:55:37.890 Frank R. Harrison: has been. Well, the 2 of you, Sam and Josie, and of course, your show that we did on your book dating in the dark.

00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:53.980 Frank R. Harrison: They have been most shows on our Youtube channel. And I'd like to thank your Instagram following for tuning in after we apartheid this show on our called radio. That is like Youtube platform. But we want very much to do what we can going forward

00:55:53.980 --> 00:56:11.609 Frank R. Harrison: to get the community together. I would hope that one day we can actually do a show live in person, and we're all actually doing a conference on it. Let's see. And broadcasting about that conference on the show that is in the forefront, or that's in the back of my mind. We could do it a later date.

00:56:12.160 --> 00:56:34.410 Frank R. Harrison: Ladies and gentlemen, this week. Slated show starts tomorrow at 10 am with philanthropy of focus, and at 110'clock it will be Steve Fries always. Friday next Tuesday. The hard skills with, and after a number I will be back with another episode of Frank about

00:56:34.430 --> 00:57:03.030 Frank R. Harrison: now. I wanna thank all of you for being here literally at the last minute, and I'll be looking out for your podcast Sam, you and I, Jeff, will be speaking, probably not to see me, but sometime tomorrow or Friday. And Josie, tell me what else what he is doing when you get a check. But I will also. I have all your email. I will give you the follow up on this particular show in terms of any commentary. Ladies and gentlemen out there. If you have any questions, bring any of them.

00:57:03.030 --> 00:57:17.450 Frank R. Harrison: Please comment on the Youtube Channel or on the Linkedin Channel wherever you're watching it, and I will forward them on at the same time. If you have any questions for me, Frank, about help. That's Frank and Jeff.

00:57:20.970 --> 00:57:32.940 Frank R. Harrison: Awareness month.

00:57:34.190 --> 00:57:39.910 Frank R. Harrison: epilepsy awareness month as of March first. Right?

00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:46.989 Frank R. Harrison: Alright. So thank you all for being here with signing off now, and I will definitely talk to you all the time.

00:57:47.100 --> 00:57:55.519 Joseannie Martinez: Alright, thanks so much. Bye, bye.

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