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Facebook Live Video from 2023/05/25 - Frank About Health - 2nd Anniversary Show

Facebook Live Video from 2023/05/25 - Frank About Health - 2nd Anniversary Show


2023/05/25 - Frank About Health - 2nd Anniversary Show

[NEW EPISODE] Frank About Health - 2nd Anniversary Show

Thursdays 5:00pm - 6:00pm (EDT)


To close out Mental Health Awareness Month, this retrospective will show how integral the show has evolved into an advocacy platform for Caregivers, Advocates, Nurses and others looking to create awareness and transparency into the many illnesses that need effective treatment, resources and alternative solutions.


This retrospective will feature Phyllis Quinlan having an open discussion with me about the show's trajectory since 2021.  After launching the show in a COVID environment, it has developed into a program that can provide open dialogue and new insights into illnesses and conditions like: Epilepsy, COVID, Cancer, Diabetes, Mental Health and others.

In honor of Mental Health Awareness Month, a brief discussion on Emotional Regulation and Self Control will be discussed.

Tune in for this healthy conversation at

Show Notes

Segment 1

In this episode, Frank Harrison is joined by Dr. Phyllis Quinlan today to commemorate two years of Frank About Health. Since the beginning of the show, Phyllis has been frequently a guest and has taken part in a number of engaging discussions. Both recall their time on the program and how much it has evolved since the beginning. Even though the show debuted during the COVID outbreak, neither of them let it stop them from starting conversations about topics other than the pandemic. Additionally, Frank and Phyllis remember one of their best and most seen episodes when they debate caring with Sheila Warnock, founder and CEO of Share The Care, as well as numerous other guests to have an honest discussion from both the family's perspective and the perspective of healthcare professionals. From this discussion, they have learned that there are people out there who have experience with caregiving and have tips, tricks, books, and organizations to help with caregiving and how to help each person with the role in the process.

Segment 2

Frank takes a trip down memory lane and plays an earlier episode featuring Catherine Chadwick as a special guest. Phyllis provides commentary on the episode and shares the valuable lessons she learned from meeting Catherine. The main takeaway for Phyllis was the importance of being your own inner coach and maintaining a positive outlook on yourself. Even though the program was taped a while ago, Frank and Phyllis continue to utilize Catherine's various ways of thinking to improve their lives. For instance, Frank mentions a breathing technique he learned where he "breathes in the sunlight," which has been helpful in different situations. Later on, they talk about how the lessons learned from Catherine intertwine with the idea of emotional regulation and how it has become more popular during and post-pandemic.

Segment 3

Next, Frank shows a clip from the previous episode, “Following Up with The Replacement Child Forum to discuss Forgiveness,” with guests Judy Mandel, Sarah Vollmen, Rita Battat, and Dr. Jennifer Griggs. Dignity and respect played a noticeably big role in the episode, along with the art of forgiveness. Phyllis reiterates from the episode that Jennifer taught listeners that dignity is a birthright and respect comes over time. Dignity is a delicate concept and can heavily impact an individual psychologically. When someone does see their own dignity, it can be difficult for them to forgive themselves, negative self-talk, and self-doubt, which hurts their mental health eventually. It is important to remember that when it comes to overall mental health, what is always going to help is speaking up about your feelings.

Segment 4

After the final break, Frank shows the video, “Betty White’s Guides to Wine: Betty White’s Happy Hour.” Frank and Phyllis discuss the wisdom of Betty White and her outlook on life while she was still alive and how she is still making an impact on life after her passing. They also discuss how they met Betty White and their time collaborating with her. Moving forward with the conversation, Frank discusses another past episode where artificial intelligence in the medical world. With artificial intelligence progressing rapidly, it can be helpful in certain areas, but it can also raise concerns about life and how humans could potentially interact if we solely rely on technology and artificial intelligence. Though it can be helpful, it should be approached slowly and with caution, so that humans are still able to interact with one another.


00:00:39.700 --> 00:00:51.369 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody, and welcome to year number 2 of Frank about health. That is right. Today. May 2520, 23 is the second anniversary of this show

00:00:51.390 --> 00:00:59.740 Frank R. Harrison: I had come back to talk radio and Nyc. With Danielle Swanson on May 2720 21, where we discussed

00:00:59.780 --> 00:01:11.639 Frank R. Harrison: about epilepsy, and also the return of the show in the new zoom format, because we were all going through the covid pandemic. But there is no way that I could move forward with

00:01:11.880 --> 00:01:28.649 Frank R. Harrison: way that the show is evolving without commemorating the last 2 years. And with me today to do just that is my special guest and co-host, Phyllis Quinlan, because she had done of the 76 shows that I put in the can. She had done over 40 of them, and they were pivotal.

00:01:28.650 --> 00:01:49.399 Frank R. Harrison: and they allowed me to see the direction that the show was going to grow into, to be an advocacy platform for caregivers, for people undergoing mental health issues for dealing with nurses and other kinds of medical professionals. Here I am at Nyu Langone. Health, which has been my home for the last month, as we've been commemorating mental health awareness month.

00:01:49.420 --> 00:02:04.919 Frank R. Harrison: and I just wanted to go ahead and have a nice, frank discussion with my dear friend Phyllis to really talk about the highlights of what we've done together, and also to have a follow up discussion on where things have been since we were together last in January.

00:02:05.010 --> 00:02:08.789 Frank R. Harrison: covering the episode with the replacement child Forum on forgiveness.

00:02:08.930 --> 00:02:22.890 Frank R. Harrison: I don't think, Phyllis, that we had a chance to do a show together since then, did we?

00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:31.320 Phyllis Quinlan: And That was really when I needed to take a bit of a hiatus. But I have missed you, Frank.

00:02:31.690 --> 00:02:53.909 Frank R. Harrison: I'm here. Same here. It it has been an interesting challenge, as as Dylan, who's helping us with the show today can attest to. I think I've had my share of 5 or 6 major technical mishaps since you've been gone. But, thanks to his skill and thanks to my ability to become resilient and forgive myself, I was able to roll with those punches.

00:02:53.910 --> 00:03:14.199 Frank R. Harrison: I think one thing that I found very interesting is last week when I did a show here on the overall Mental Health Review that we were covering the epilepsy and and cognitive perception. And there was also some other major depressive episodes that we were discussing. I showed a segment, and I logged myself off the show.

00:03:15.950 --> 00:03:38.700 Frank R. Harrison: So break number one happened 5 min into the show, so what I did is I came back on, and I said, Now, segment, 2 will be 25 min long, the more the merrier. So that's better than 2 years ago, when I would have freaked out, and I would have been like, Oh, my God! I hope you guys are still listening. But this way I think I have grown in the last 2 years, and you're learning how to flow.

00:03:38.760 --> 00:03:54.600 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly, exactly. And and I'm also learning how to reposition myself. As you know the last well, pretty much through, I think. February. I was hosting the show at. We work at the Brooklyn Navy Yard, and it was a wonderful facility.

00:03:54.620 --> 00:04:00.399 Frank R. Harrison: but I think I remember my backdrops. There were few episodes where I looked like I was in my bedroom.

00:04:00.460 --> 00:04:09.820 Frank R. Harrison: and then there was another one where I had a tree behind me tried to get the illusion that I was growing cannabis. But that really wasn't ethical.

00:04:09.860 --> 00:04:39.100 Frank R. Harrison: And then you are. You are unique and amazing. I really enjoy you. I appreciate that same here. I mean, it's like I was just thinking even the first show that we did together on. I think it was just your background as a nurse, and in caregiving and bullying and stuff like that. That show led to you becoming my co-host, because there was no way, I mean being that I had learned a lot about your professional background, and I saw that you were by having a discussion with me about

00:04:39.100 --> 00:05:02.099 Frank R. Harrison: the knowledge that I have obtained through a research and reading up on different mental and physical health issues, plus my personal circumstances, with my father and my cousin, and so forth, and so on. I'm still not a medical professional, so I didn't have the credibility that you were able to bring to the show, and I thank you wholeheartedly for that. Well, it was my pleasure, it really was my pleasure, and I appreciated the Forum. I mean, we had

00:05:02.110 --> 00:05:26.280 Phyllis Quinlan: tremendous guests, and we were able to showcase nursing from really a whole lot of different perspectives. You know what nurses you're doing that is conventional, and, of course, a little bit non conventional or unconventional. And we were, you know, able to bring together. you know, really various groups of people. I thought that was a a lot of interest to your listeners, and it was a lot of fun for me.

00:05:26.450 --> 00:05:44.849 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, absolutely! And and I think one of the other things that I notice is that when I was already working with regular guests like Rtha Gray as well as we had a chance, for, as I said, Danielle Swanson, and then we were getting a lot of other Sam himself had come on the show.

00:05:44.850 --> 00:05:59.570 Frank R. Harrison: What I was noticing is, I was able to to stop talking about just specific illnesses. And look about, how do we create change?

00:05:59.830 --> 00:06:05.330 Phyllis Quinlan: And it was it was really important to start looking towards the future. And what

00:06:05.340 --> 00:06:16.229 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, the lessons that Covid taught us as opposed to being held down by Covid. We were now shaking it off, and and really exploring what was next.

00:06:16.420 --> 00:06:33.179 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly, and and and we were talking about developing a platform dubbed. The future is healthy in 23, and you know it's very hard to predict when that time period is, but I can say that 2,023 so far has been

00:06:33.460 --> 00:06:55.320 Frank R. Harrison: 90 steps forward in terms of lifting vaccine mandates. Mass mandates, here I am out in the open, with people going back and forth around me, and what I'm hoping long term as as I continue to above, the show going forward is to have all of us together in the same room, having a show together in a conversation where the camera is focused on both of us. So

00:06:55.320 --> 00:07:05.130 Frank R. Harrison: those are kind of the things that I'm working on, you know, towards future shows and future guests. And of course I know you're working on your your second edition of your book.

00:07:05.200 --> 00:07:28.220 Phyllis Quinlan: I am I I I'm doing the second edition of the book that dressing, bullying, and and in civility and health care, you know, which is really you know, I'm excited about that. Unfortunately, the issue of bullying and instability and health care still looms large. I. You know I'm still getting frequent requests to speak about it.

00:07:28.230 --> 00:07:41.830 Phyllis Quinlan: And you know it's you know the name of the book will be, you know, bringing shadow behavior into the light of day. understanding and managing, bullying and in civilian health care effectively. But it will be the second edition.

00:07:42.190 --> 00:08:08.120 Phyllis Quinlan: Any anticipated date of release. Will it be next year?

00:08:08.410 --> 00:08:28.599 Frank R. Harrison: Great, great! Now, I guess. One episode that I don't have the footage, but I want to commemorate with you is the caregiving episode that we did with Sheila Warnock, Rtha Gray Lee, Thomson, and 2 other members of that I can't. Dr. Yon bun Heffer, and I guess myself, you know so.

00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:46.969 Frank R. Harrison: And the thing is, what did you think about that show? And and what has been the feedback? I mean? I think that was one of our most watch shows that we had. But when we were operating on Facebook, you know, I don't know around it. But I can tell. I I really felt it was one of our strongest productions. I really think that was one of the strongest offerings we had.

00:08:46.980 --> 00:08:53.849 Phyllis Quinlan: in that year. We? We couldn't have asked for a stronger panel, more versed in subject matter.

00:08:53.870 --> 00:09:03.060 Phyllis Quinlan: each bringing their passion and uniqueness. to it, you know, because, you know several of the

00:09:03.490 --> 00:09:16.649 Phyllis Quinlan: the the guests on the show that day we're talking about, you know, supporting the patients and their families. And then, you know there was a perspective about. Maybe health care. Professionals are not working hard enough to do that.

00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:46.469 Phyllis Quinlan: Of course I stepped up to the bad at that point to make sure everybody knew. We are working hard enough to do that, but you know there are You know there is the industry of health care. And then there is the profession of caring, you know. So the caring professions are always looking to do patient-centered care, and of course, create a sense of well being. And you know, when we are discharging patients, making sure that they feel empowered and safe enough

00:09:46.500 --> 00:10:07.429 Phyllis Quinlan: to take care of themselves. Once their home, they may need some support. but essentially return back to life with a greater sense of well being. Whatever their circumstances are. the the politics around health care. The business of health care is something that the caring professions are not necessarily able to influence.

00:10:07.430 --> 00:10:28.060 Phyllis Quinlan: you know. So that was I just thought that was a really strong program and the advocacy that went there. I love the way that it showcased share the care, you know. I think I think that is a you know, one of the more, not for profit programs out there. That is kind of like the secret.

00:10:28.650 --> 00:10:37.519 Phyllis Quinlan: Yeah, you know a a best kept secret that you know, where people can really learn if they purchase the share of the care book

00:10:37.570 --> 00:11:01.289 Phyllis Quinlan: to be able to, you know, work with each other and develop care groups around a specific person in the community where no one feels overwhelmed by the by, the the task of caring. And you know, Sheila was amazing. She was talking about how some of the share the care groups have gone. We're in existence for years, not just weeks and months, but for years.

00:11:01.290 --> 00:11:11.069 Phyllis Quinlan: so you know, there's a lot of good community people out there doing a lot of good work. and I love the fact that we were able to showcase that that day.

00:11:11.330 --> 00:11:32.020 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah. And also the whole knowledge that you can have a team of people caregiving they could be members of that individual's family as part of that team. So I also got the in the incentive to understand that, especially during the time of Covid, that a lot of it, as I've witnessed myself, was going to be coming from loved ones rather than

00:11:32.220 --> 00:11:47.089 Phyllis Quinlan: mit C.

00:11:47.430 --> 00:12:14.210 Phyllis Quinlan: I. I I sincerely believe a lot more is going to fall to family friends and communities. you know that book share the care is not just a great outline for how to put together support groups. For you know, individuals that are in the community to keep them in the community and to not overwhelm family caregivers. But what I loved about it is, everybody gets a task based on their own skill set.

00:12:14.210 --> 00:12:29.800 Phyllis Quinlan: and everybody rotates leadership coordination. So no one gets overwhelmed on any role. So if you're going to be the leader for the week, okay, then you're coordinating things, and next week it's going to meet someone else, and the following week it'll be someone else.

00:12:29.800 --> 00:12:56.649 Phyllis Quinlan: And it was just brilliantly done, and and the most impressive thing it was done from the heart because Sheila is not a health care professional. Her background doesn't marketing and you know that it came from her personal experiences with her family and friends. And you know how better to write a book around. You know how to take care of your loved ones, especially when it came literally from heartfelt experiences.

00:12:56.750 --> 00:13:06.569 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, yeah, and those team dynamics definitely help with the mental health of the caregivers. I presume that that was one of the biggest things it wasn't just.

00:13:06.730 --> 00:13:12.900 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, share the care just it just doesn't focus on the person being cared for.

00:13:12.930 --> 00:13:22.580 Phyllis Quinlan: You know, the idea is that person is in the community, and you want to keep them in the community as long as it's appropriate and safe. but not at the cost of the family, caregiver.

00:13:22.920 --> 00:13:45.349 Phyllis Quinlan: you know. So you don't want a family caregiver to have to burn through savings. You don't want the family caregiver to have to leave their job. You don't want the family caregiver to lose their sense of independent living, because now they are, you know, overwhelmed with the caring of that person in their family. So this was a real, wonderful map

00:13:45.420 --> 00:14:06.129 Phyllis Quinlan: to be able to say, we can. You know you can keep someone safe, and people are out there that are ready, willing, and able to help you. Just have to ask them. And you have to make sure that they're going to stay within their skill set, because not everybody can provide hands on care. But people can take people to doctors, appointments. People can mow lawns or set up

00:14:06.130 --> 00:14:20.980 Phyllis Quinlan: accounting on on the computer. People want to do something. They're not just sure what they can do. And this book really allows people to have that very important discussion and and set things up correctly.

00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:37.029 Frank R. Harrison: So now, ladies and gentlemen, we're about to take our first break, and we're going to share the care with all of you when we return. As we highlight. Some of the other works that both Phyllis and I worked on together here on Frank, about health, so happy anniversary to me and to everyone else who's been watching will be back in a few.

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00:16:49.930 --> 00:17:00.179 Frank R. Harrison: welcome back as we're celebrating the second year of Frank about health with my dear friend Phyllis, and what we want to now do. What I want to now do is continue on with another guest

00:17:00.210 --> 00:17:07.580 Frank R. Harrison: that Phyllis and I had, which was Katherine Chadwick, where she had a lot of interesting things to say, and for that reason I'm going to

00:17:07.690 --> 00:17:12.049 Frank R. Harrison: share the screen so you can all see it in its entirety.

00:17:12.250 --> 00:17:16.900 Frank R. Harrison: The 1 min of wisdom that she shared with us that that day

00:17:20.500 --> 00:17:21.160 you

00:17:23.339 --> 00:17:26.619 Frank R. Harrison: up to one another, truly influences our energy level

00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.369 Frank R. Harrison: and can truly influence our resilience.

00:17:29.460 --> 00:17:34.770 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, no question, because well, we're we're energy beings. Everything is energy

00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:43.720 Frank R. Harrison: and words have energy, feelings have energy. And actually, you know, thoughts are the language of the mind.

00:17:44.190 --> 00:17:47.140 Frank R. Harrison: and the feelings are the language of the body.

00:17:47.570 --> 00:17:50.780 Frank R. Harrison: and everything has an energetic level.

00:17:50.940 --> 00:18:00.049 Frank R. Harrison: and obviously the the more positive the the the word, or the emotions, the higher vibrational value it has.

00:18:00.300 --> 00:18:04.510 Frank R. Harrison: And so it does make a difference, as far as what

00:18:04.520 --> 00:18:13.759 Frank R. Harrison: a chemical cocktail of your body is manufacturing. Each time you have an emotion in response to that amendment. Right?

00:18:18.260 --> 00:18:20.850 Frank R. Harrison: Okay. I am coming back.

00:18:25.390 --> 00:18:48.839 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, did it? Well, volume everything perfect. Okay, you did it. Well, yeah, that was one of again one of my favorite episodes. Yes, same. Here I keep telling other people I mean other on other shows that I do especially lessons, learned episodes, or even last week, when I was covering some of the mental health things I did take her breathing in the sunlight.

00:18:48.840 --> 00:19:17.510 Frank R. Harrison: Instruction. Believe me, every time I'm about to do a show, that's what I do. I breathe in the sunlight, just so I can have that. So you're actively raising your sunshine quotient, right? But you know Kathryn's points there are are so important. Since we we really are talking about mental health or making sure it into this program. What she's really saying, you know, is it? It's really important that you? You have good self-talk.

00:19:17.600 --> 00:19:46.580 Phyllis Quinlan: you know. There, there is enough negative talk about each of us from other people. We we don't have to offer it to ourselves, you know, and I know we have this tendency to be inner critics, and more so, depending on how you raise the culture. You were race, you know whether you know you have a culture that is big on guilt, and you know responsibility and accountability and shame. And you know all those wonderful negative things, and you know what I think about

00:19:46.630 --> 00:20:00.910 Phyllis Quinlan: You know the voices in my head, or the the the inner critic in my head. You know it's my mom, and it's always going to be my mom, you know, and I I can be doing something which would be something she would want to

00:20:00.910 --> 00:20:20.790 Phyllis Quinlan: correct me on. And you know, I mean she's gone forever now, and you know. it's I can still hear her voice in my head as I'm doing something, you know. I think if we what, what really? Catherine's point was that the way you talk to yourself influences first of all how you feel, and then how you represent yourself to the world.

00:20:20.830 --> 00:20:36.709 Phyllis Quinlan: So her point is truly be your own inner cheerleader. Be your own inner coach, you know, and and not. That's not to say that you're not going to be accountable and responsible, especially if you've messed up. You're going to own it.

00:20:36.820 --> 00:20:48.090 Phyllis Quinlan: But it's not the end of the world. It doesn't mean you're not a good person, it being an inner critic, or being an inner coach or an inner cheerleader, allows you to keep things in perspective.

00:20:48.100 --> 00:20:59.660 Phyllis Quinlan: so that you have the. It offers you enough loving-kindness that you realize that you know, being an adult in the 20 first century is a process

00:20:59.810 --> 00:21:02.870 Frank R. Harrison: correct, and you're going to get it wrong before you get it right

00:21:02.890 --> 00:21:15.249 Phyllis Quinlan: and and and you shouldn't not enjoy your life in that process. So, having a healthy perspective and really offering yourself positive self-talk is such a great gift for each of our mental health.

00:21:15.580 --> 00:21:33.890 Frank R. Harrison: Correct? And and that's what I was also trying to bring into attention for this episode, not just as a tribute show. But on the whole concept of emotional regulation, I mean, we're all dealing with various mental health issues across the spectrum, whether they're neurologically based, or psychiatrically based or emotionally based.

00:21:33.890 --> 00:21:46.430 Frank R. Harrison: But once I gather from what you just said, that Catherine was giving us the message of in being our own coach. It is a method of being able to regulate ourselves internally, and not depend

00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:53.630 Frank R. Harrison: on the various systems that are out there which probably was responsible for the negative conditioning. To begin with, correct.

00:21:53.880 --> 00:22:23.379 Phyllis Quinlan: I I think it's a way of keeping it in perspective. I mean, I don't know if we're really able, and I honestly don't know if we're really able to totally shake off our upbringing our culture, you know. the our parenting, you know. it's always going to be with you, it might be disguised and unconscious bias. It may be disguised in low self esteem or a sense of worthiness. These are issues that are, you know, common to every human being on the planet. There's no escaping them.

00:22:23.380 --> 00:22:29.329 Phyllis Quinlan: The the pieces is that. Do you have the heart, the stamina, and the desire to feel better.

00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:41.399 Frank R. Harrison: and if you do, you have the ability, as Kathryn shared, to raise your own vibration, not in a false sense, of celebrating yourself, but in a but in a way of saying.

00:22:41.400 --> 00:23:02.120 Phyllis Quinlan: Yeah, and you know, I I did this, and I did that. And I'm not perfect over here. And you know, yeah, I I I I feel a sense of we're not not having the worthiness that I would like or I. I I feel a little in pasta syndrome coming on, or something along those lines, but to recognize that that is a common thing for every human being.

00:23:02.120 --> 00:23:13.310 Phyllis Quinlan: and I work with some very hefty professionals in the health care industry, and I am amazed how accomplished and credentialed they are, and how they struggle with impostas syndrome.

00:23:13.560 --> 00:23:20.650 Phyllis Quinlan: And it it's so, it's it's not academically based. It's certainly not experiential. It is human.

00:23:20.940 --> 00:23:26.549 Phyllis Quinlan: Yes, and when we talk about mental health, we we just have to

00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:32.969 Phyllis Quinlan: really give ourselves enough credit for being human beings who have the ability

00:23:33.140 --> 00:23:36.650 Phyllis Quinlan: to make choices. And if you can choose

00:23:37.050 --> 00:23:56.299 Phyllis Quinlan: positivity, if you can choose optimism, if you can choose gratitude. If you can choose being your own self coach or your own own cheerleader, you can raise your vibration up so that you have the energy to face what is going to be rolling up to your front door each and every day.

00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.649 Frank R. Harrison: So, in other words, even post-pandemic

00:23:59.900 --> 00:24:28.740 Frank R. Harrison: emotional regulation is now going to be a a mandatory thing, not just what people have learned to cope with for years during previous crises or previous circumstances that have been going on in there. I I'm not quite sure about that emotional regulation yet. I I that's still coming out and evolving. It's interesting. I know that people are feeling far more empowered. I know that they are less likely to tolerate bullying and incivility toxic workplaces.

00:24:28.740 --> 00:24:48.960 Phyllis Quinlan: You know there is a little bit of a you know, the old network thing I'm mad is telling. I'm not gonna take it anymore. And that is, that's bubbling up. But, interestingly, you know, you shared before that. You know, we're not wearing masks anymore. And I had to work with a lot of people in just in time, coaching moments.

00:24:49.040 --> 00:24:50.500 Phyllis Quinlan: because

00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:59.170 Phyllis Quinlan: when the when the masks came off. Everybody then didn't, couldn't hide behind the mask with the body language.

00:24:59.790 --> 00:25:23.540 Phyllis Quinlan: so I don't know if you ever heard the term I was in a conversation. I was in a meeting, and, thank God, I was wearing a mask. I'm I'm ready for it right. But but but but people were saying that because they were like, you know, this guy is talking whatever whatever. And I'm going all right, you know, and I'm making faces, or I'm laughing, or I'm I'm sticking my tongue out, and you know, thank God, I'm wearing a mess, because.

00:25:23.620 --> 00:25:39.120 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, he, the person couldn't see me but once the masks came off, people had a really in a hurry, roll back the the looseness of the body language that was somewhat permitted behind the mask that you were no longer wearing.

00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:42.180 Frank R. Harrison: you know. So there was a lot of

00:25:42.420 --> 00:26:10.290 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, my! You know moments where where people like. Oh, I gotta remember, I'm not wearing a mask anymore. That's probably why a lot of people feel now that we're out in the open again. Things don't seem like they used to. It's like we have this hidden change in people's behavior, because what they were doing under the mask is now more obvious, but it's it had yet been unseen. So people are seeing a different side of people.

00:26:10.360 --> 00:26:28.280 Phyllis Quinlan: You know what I'm noticing, though I I'm noticing that slowly but surely. Do you know how it kind of like the elevator thing you could be in a elevator with 5 or 6 or 7 other people. You don't say a word. You don't look at one another. It's almost like the the imposed elevator etiquette.

00:26:28.370 --> 00:26:50.010 Phyllis Quinlan: you know. Don't talk, don't Ste. Use no cough, you know, and then, you know. Get in! Get out! Get in! Get out what I'm noticing, and I don't know if it's, you know, has to do with the fact that I I work in a hospital, or I I'm coaching, or I'm consulting, or I'm doing things. But what I'm noticing is that people are a more ready now to make eye contact and smile.

00:26:51.340 --> 00:27:06.360 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah, it's almost like we're all actively trying to reconnect, even if it's very subtle, it's very subtle. But I am noticing more and more that people are taking that opportunity just to say good morning.

00:27:06.860 --> 00:27:21.530 Phyllis Quinlan: where, perhaps, Pre covid, you would have just walk by that person without a second thought they were almost invisible to you. I'm I'm I'm really noticing that people are less invisible, and we are noticing more

00:27:21.930 --> 00:27:34.769 Frank R. Harrison: in a good way. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And and I guess if we can learn to master that as a guide post, especially for others that are still scrambling to try to get their their

00:27:35.240 --> 00:28:02.819 Frank R. Harrison: their bearings back in order. We could actually be advocates like on this show, for example, and point those things out so that we can just inform people. It's okay. You can say hello to the person and not worry what they're going to think, because actually, they might be waiting for you to say, Hi, you know, and and you sometimes it takes a little courage to be the first one to smile. but that's okay. To have that kind of courage, and and just test the waters. If the person doesn't smile back. No harm, no foul.

00:28:03.060 --> 00:28:09.599 Phyllis Quinlan: you know. But if they do, what a wonderful little square to feel good hormone you're going to have

00:28:09.650 --> 00:28:38.719 Frank R. Harrison: right exactly now. We have to have some more feel good hormones with the next commercial break. So when when we return, we're going to continue a summary of what we just discussed, especially in the area of emotional regulation trying to avoid this regulation. The sample of elevator etiquette, or even living in a post covid world going forward. We have a lot of new technologies coming in at the same time. We have to learn to be more

00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:51.500 Frank R. Harrison: focused and reality testing has to be very much on the forefront of your mind. So we'll get into that when we return right here on talk, radio and Nyc. And all of our socials. We'll be back in a few

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00:29:23.410 --> 00:29:50.460 You know, most of you may have many unanswered questions regarding your health. Are you looking to live a healthier lifestyle? Do you have a desire to learn more about mental health and enhance your quality of life? Or do you just want to participate in self-understanding and awareness? I'm Frank Art Harrison, host of Frank about health, and each Thursday I will tackle these questions and work to enlighten you. Tune in every day at 5 0 P. M. On talk radio and Nyc. And I will be Frank about help to advocate for all of us

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00:30:52.050 --> 00:31:16.860 Frank R. Harrison: welcome back. And Phyllis. I I I have missed you literally. I can't believe. Already half an hour has gone by, and there's so much else that I wanted to commemorate. But it is mental health awareness month. So commemorating the mental health issues is key. And we did speak earlier in the show about the replacement child Forum. So I want to play what Dr. Jennifer Griggs had said last week, I actually played the meaning of forgiveness is

00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:22.469 Frank R. Harrison: giving up a different past, or giving up hope for a better past.

00:31:22.580 --> 00:31:37.920 Frank R. Harrison: That in itself was moving. But then the issue on dignity is what I want to now play for the audience out there. So I am making sure everything is okay before I I share the car on this one. All right. Hold on 1 s.

00:31:46.560 --> 00:31:47.589 Frank R. Harrison: There we go.

00:31:48.710 --> 00:32:01.300 Frank R. Harrison: That is just probably one of the more touching ways I've ever heard that describe. Thank you. Let me understand how dignity plays into that you, you know you. You describe yourself as a goodness of dignity.

00:32:02.110 --> 00:32:11.500 Frank R. Harrison: be sure a little bit more. Yeah. So so dignity, unlike respect. is something that we're born with. We don't have to earn it.

00:32:11.610 --> 00:32:16.129 Frank R. Harrison: hustle for it. It's our inherent value and worth.

00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:27.729 Frank R. Harrison: It relates a lot to identity in this area of what we're talking about. It is just when we're born we have the same amount of dignity as anybody else, and

00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:38.990 Frank R. Harrison: the interesting thing is as essential as it is. You would think that it was robust and strong, but dignity is characterized by its vulnerability to injury.

00:32:39.540 --> 00:33:00.310 Frank R. Harrison: There are 10 elements of dignity in the work that Donna Hicks has done. She's at Harvard, and she's done work across cultures and throughout multiple different countries and identify 10 essential elements that I'll go through with the bent of looking at replacement. Children, the first is acceptance of identity.

00:33:00.350 --> 00:33:03.909 Frank R. Harrison: So we're accepted for exactly who we are.

00:33:04.360 --> 00:33:19.890 Frank R. Harrison: You can see how that really blends with the replacement child. condition of who am I? And not being accepted for exactly who we are, but being a stand-in for somebody else.

00:33:20.230 --> 00:33:28.590 Frank R. Harrison: the next is inclusion being included, and in reading Judy's story Judy was excluded

00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:47.259 Frank R. Harrison: from this life that happened before, and there was a lot of secret keeping, and my sense is because of the trauma to the family, and the profound bereavement that the child is meant to replace, that there is a lot of exclusion of the child who is the replacement, child.

00:33:47.630 --> 00:33:49.899 Frank R. Harrison: The third element is safety.

00:33:50.700 --> 00:33:55.769 Frank R. Harrison: physical safety, and psychological safety. That we can be our authentic selves.

00:33:55.830 --> 00:33:58.649 Frank R. Harrison: If you think about dignity at work.

00:33:58.690 --> 00:34:09.899 Frank R. Harrison: you know, being unsafe psychologically, whether it's teasing or bullying or harassment. The same things can play out in families. Of course, so

00:34:09.929 --> 00:34:13.120 Frank R. Harrison: identity, inclusion, safety.

00:34:13.230 --> 00:34:14.850 Frank R. Harrison: understanding.

00:34:15.770 --> 00:34:28.370 Frank R. Harrison: acknowledgment, and recognition are the next 3 components being understood. For who you are being recognized for your contributions, and even when you fail for your striving

00:34:28.460 --> 00:34:47.480 Frank R. Harrison: that that not being perfect sense that so many people who are replacement children who identify as replacement children might have that they're trying so hard, and they're not being recognized for their striving. Judy's father said when she asked, Am I okay? He said. 60, 40,

00:34:47.889 --> 00:34:49.370 Frank R. Harrison: and that's

00:34:49.520 --> 00:34:57.899 Frank R. Harrison: if you think about not being recognized for your striving and not being acknowledged for your contributions and not being understood.

00:34:58.330 --> 00:35:07.919 Frank R. Harrison: Think about telling your story, and people just say, Oh, well, they were doing the best they could. We all need to be understood for our pain and our suffering. the other elements.

00:35:09.020 --> 00:35:22.520 Phyllis Quinlan:  I could actually watch that show all over again.

00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:28.420 Phyllis Quinlan: programs because they're all my favorite programs quite honestly. But boy, was that powerful?

00:35:28.450 --> 00:35:32.679 Frank R. Harrison: And Jennifer was mesmerizing?

00:35:32.820 --> 00:35:33.570 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.

00:35:33.690 --> 00:35:40.030 Frank R. Harrison: and I have to tell you, even though I am not I? To the best of my knowledge I am not a replacement, child.

00:35:40.200 --> 00:35:47.810 Phyllis Quinlan: to the best of my knowledge. Okay, her. What she shared there on dignity about dignity being a birthright

00:35:48.250 --> 00:35:51.300 Phyllis Quinlan: and respect being something earned over time.

00:35:51.430 --> 00:35:52.350 Frank R. Harrison: Yes.

00:35:52.550 --> 00:36:11.149 Phyllis Quinlan: it it resonated with me and She talked about Donna Hicks books. Well, the very next day I went out and downloaded that to the 2 books that Donner has written on dignity and leading with dignity from my audible, which, of course, you know, is my my go to.

00:36:11.260 --> 00:36:19.999 Frank R. Harrison: and I couldn't. I couldn't read or listen, or gobble up those books fast enough, and I use them every day. Now

00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:27.370 Phyllis Quinlan: I weaved that whole understanding of dignity and birthright, and how

00:36:27.580 --> 00:36:33.610 Phyllis Quinlan: how people respond when they are hurt. you know. So, Donna Hicks.

00:36:33.760 --> 00:37:00.749 Phyllis Quinlan: you know it's the foundation of what Jennifer's work was there. But Donna talks about dignity in an insult or an injury to your dignity being primal, that it is something where you you you have a a feeling in your brain stem. It goes through your limbic system, and then it comes out. Your cognitive, your you know your thinking brain when you're your your intro to dignity hits you right in your limbic or emotional system.

00:37:01.060 --> 00:37:05.860 Phyllis Quinlan: which means that you can think I need to let this go.

00:37:06.060 --> 00:37:13.060 Phyllis Quinlan: but you struggle with the imprint of the feeling of being Insulted

00:37:13.250 --> 00:37:15.089 Phyllis Quinlan: on a level of dignity

00:37:15.530 --> 00:37:30.449 Frank R. Harrison: with which makes you feel powerless and vulnerable and and basically and all of it. And you know that particular, you know program was so rich with information.

00:37:30.670 --> 00:37:35.859 Phyllis Quinlan: whether you are a replacement, child or not, it's so rich with information

00:37:36.420 --> 00:37:43.430 Phyllis Quinlan: from, for I don't want to say recovery, but put in childhood experiences, and either

00:37:43.510 --> 00:37:59.859 Phyllis Quinlan: best parenting practices or not best parenting practices in perspective, to understand that things were done to you because of their limited skills, not because anything was wrong with you

00:38:00.390 --> 00:38:12.110 Frank R. Harrison: or not, because of any conscious malice that you were thinking was done. Exactly. Okay, that you you you have been, you know, paying this butcher bill for something you did not do

00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.749 Frank R. Harrison: right. And now, do you want to? Do you want to cling to that

00:38:16.790 --> 00:38:39.090 Phyllis Quinlan: in some morbid way, because it's somewhat to find you? Or are you going to be able to find the adult strength, not the child strength the adult strength to let that go and allow your life now to grow in a very different way. And the 3 women that we had as guests, you know they they. They work through those issues in such various ways.

00:38:39.090 --> 00:38:52.279 Phyllis Quinlan: writing books, doing programming, forming a support circle because one of the healthiest things you can do for mental health. And it was demonstrated in that program is. Talk about your feelings

00:38:52.400 --> 00:39:10.950 Frank R. Harrison: absolutely. And and even that way you just described that, especially from the way that Dr. Jennifer Griggs worked with Donna Hicks in her own research methodology. You can almost see the whole technical skill of the art of forgiveness that most people are just either learned by

00:39:11.020 --> 00:39:28.409 Frank R. Harrison: by happenstance, or they just manage to see an episode like that and really grasp it, and finally do what they can to self-train that forgiveness for all that was done to you by people in your life that are no longer in it, or even family members, and even for yourself.

00:39:28.410 --> 00:39:51.340 Frank R. Harrison: because we we are still repeating the damage to ourselves when we're not clear as to why we're not letting go of. Well, you can see how that could lead to the negative self talk that could lead to the low, energetic vibration, and then you start to, you know. Doubt yourself. Get depressed. Blah blah blah! But you know Donna Hicks, his book the forward to her first book, Dignity, which is the ground breaking book that she wrote

00:39:51.340 --> 00:40:04.129 Phyllis Quinlan: the forward to that is written by Archbishop Desmond Tutu. Now you don't get someone like Archbishop Desmond Tutu to write the forward to your book unless you have impressed that man

00:40:04.450 --> 00:40:13.269 Phyllis Quinlan: exponentially and and Don ahead. She has worked with groups in Africa. She has worked with

00:40:13.470 --> 00:40:32.590 Phyllis Quinlan: groups and the police she has worked with Northern Ireland in England. She her work is all around, coming together and getting to a place of forgiving through appreciating each other's dignity, to allow negotiations and peacekeeping to happen

00:40:32.930 --> 00:40:52.769 Frank R. Harrison: right? Right? It's it is amazing. And you know, like I, I always try to reflect, especially the impact that this show has done for me. Psychologically, I think I've said to you and to other guests that we've had on the show that after I finish an episode.

00:40:53.070 --> 00:41:18.370 Frank R. Harrison: I feel this sense of calm that goes through me. And I and I was first thinking, it's because I'm over at the Brooklyn Navy Yard, and I'm about to take the ferry, and a nice, peaceful river right now. That's not it. It's because I had the ability for an hour to connect virtually with you and with the guests, and really have an honest conversation that most people have learned just to keep their feelings from within. They don't even have communication

00:41:18.570 --> 00:41:23.180 Frank R. Harrison: when they're with their families, or spouses, or or significant others, because

00:41:23.420 --> 00:41:41.199 Frank R. Harrison: never learned how I think what I'm saying is that this platform allowed me to learn those skills that I transferred out to family and friends and colleagues. And you. You brought them back in a very different way. I think that was part of the strength of this program. A lot of the strength of this program is that it's hopeful.

00:41:41.380 --> 00:41:50.160 Phyllis Quinlan: And I think that's a part of what you're you're experiencing. The the pieces is it's important to understand the difference between faith and hope.

00:41:50.230 --> 00:42:05.530 Phyllis Quinlan: Okay. So faith is something that is passive. You know you. You have a knowing. You have a belief in something greater than yourself. You have faith about that with no evidence, and it's passive. And you you really

00:42:05.660 --> 00:42:11.910 Phyllis Quinlan: it. It's a it's a very profound gift that you give when you give faith to something or someone.

00:42:12.200 --> 00:42:24.320 Phyllis Quinlan: Hope is very different. Hope is active. Hope is getting busy. Hope is about action, because when you're dealing in hope, usually, what you're trying to do is influence the outcome that you don't want to happen.

00:42:24.430 --> 00:42:38.289 Phyllis Quinlan: In other words, you get a diagnosis, and your and and everybody says, Well, here's how this is going to go, and you start saying, Oh, no, I'm going to influence that. And I'm you do that with your hope that you can change the outcome.

00:42:38.340 --> 00:42:53.049 Phyllis Quinlan: Professional caregivers do that for a living. You know, we work with our patients to, to stimulate help with our own hope that we can provide care that will be that will change an outcome, or at least get to a more desirable, peaceful outcome.

00:42:53.100 --> 00:42:56.340 Frank R. Harrison: But I think this program is about hope.

00:42:56.940 --> 00:43:10.949 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, giving people the knowledge that they can advocate for themselves, but at the same time, through the the various guests, with their knowledge and research, learn how to get busy

00:43:10.950 --> 00:43:39.080 Frank R. Harrison: exactly, and even more so now that everything is going to be full release into the outer world again. Post Covid, which I'm hoping for. It looks as though we're out for our final break. But when we return we're going to talk about the future, the future of you, Phyllis Quintland, the future of Frank about help, the future of talk radio, Nyc and the future of artificial intelligence and its role and influence in health care. So please stay tuned. We'll be back in a few.

00:43:42.180 --> 00:44:05.950 everybody. It's Tommy. Gee, the nonprofit sector Connector coming at you from my attic each week here on talk radio and Nyc. I hosted program for the lamb of game focus non-profits in cocktails each and every day, and it's my focus to help them amplify their message and tell their story. Listen. Each week at 10 A. M. Eastern standing time right here on talk radio and Nyc.

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00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:38.790 The

00:45:46.450 --> 00:45:50.279 Frank R. Harrison: at our age we really have to think about our health.

00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:55.059 Frank R. Harrison: Doctors say a glass of wine a day can extend your life

00:45:58.300 --> 00:46:00.260 Frank R. Harrison: cheers. Okay?

00:46:00.790 --> 00:46:03.830 Frank R. Harrison: Looks like we're going to live forever.

00:46:11.170 --> 00:46:29.249 Frank R. Harrison: Well, that episode was definitely the most fun under unfortunate circumstances. But definitely it was pleasure to have you meet Rtha, who had worked with her, and the 3 of us just really commemorate our knowledge of

00:46:29.570 --> 00:46:44.400 Frank R. Harrison: Betty White. The way that she represented each of our lives in various ways, I mean for me. It was 3 simple, short, brief meetings, but she had that impact just being in her in her. I don't know if you call it her Aura or her space.

00:46:44.460 --> 00:46:55.140 Phyllis Quinlan: She definitely saw me or she saw everyone that she interacted.

00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:56.950 Phyllis Quinlan: you know.

00:46:57.510 --> 00:47:10.360 Phyllis Quinlan: So Betty was close to 100, right? She was just shy of 100 when she passed. Yeah, 17 day shy, right? And you know, I think the one thing that was always

00:47:10.630 --> 00:47:13.080 Phyllis Quinlan: mesmerizing about her

00:47:13.150 --> 00:47:19.770 Phyllis Quinlan: was her engagement in life. And you know again, to bring it back to mental health awareness. Month of May.

00:47:19.930 --> 00:47:21.380 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah.

00:47:21.510 --> 00:47:45.000 Phyllis Quinlan: when you know, I remember seeing a program years ago I might have been 17 or 18, and it was it was talking about at that particular time. There was over 3,000 people in the United States over the age of 100. Now, of course, that's very different. But we're going back a few years right? And they were talking about what was the secret to longevity. And it wasn't

00:47:45.010 --> 00:47:51.530 Phyllis Quinlan: healthy eating, and it wasn't not smoking, because they were all eating and drinking and smoking. It was hysterical.

00:47:51.570 --> 00:47:57.990 Frank R. Harrison: right? It said, what? Really? What it was. It was that they had something to do, that there was a reason to get up in the morning.

00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:02.200 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, and that they they had to recreate.

00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:15.359 Phyllis Quinlan: you know, support circles or social circles, because you got to an age, and then you lost a spouse, and maybe the friends with that spouse. So you had to find a way to get into another social group.

00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:32.609 Phyllis Quinlan: And you know, and when you start out living, everybody that that you know, that really becomes a challenge. But But the most successful people at aging those who were still cognitively aware, and sounded joyful, which Betty always sounded joyful

00:48:32.740 --> 00:48:44.530 Frank R. Harrison: mit Ctl. And I absolutely really had the gift of being able to stay engaged in life, 100% right, and that, to me, is a recipe for successful mental health right then and there 250

00:48:44.590 --> 00:49:12.060 Frank R. Harrison: absolutely always knew her purpose, always knew that it was about doing what she loved, with whom that she loved, with the animals that she loved, and that if she had no connection to it. She wasn't involved. She just immediately just focused on where she felt her purpose. So she she did try to be all things to all people, although the one common denominated that she shared with everyone was her sense of humor and her gift for comedy.

00:49:12.060 --> 00:49:20.830 Phyllis Quinlan: That but that was it? But she didn't try to be a a serious Shakespearean actor. She didn't try to be those things. She just was Betty.

00:49:21.150 --> 00:49:25.190 Frank R. Harrison: you know she was just Betty, and yes, she know

00:49:25.300 --> 00:49:33.379 Phyllis Quinlan: even though she got less involved in things as she got older and put most of her energies into her. Foundations for animals.

00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:46.520 Phyllis Quinlan: it but all of her energy went into that. So you have again that that anchoring to mission and purpose. And it matters that I get out of bed, and it matters that I go to a fundraiser, and it matters that I show up.

00:49:46.690 --> 00:49:59.320 Phyllis Quinlan: And you know, even even academics that talk about applied positive psychology will share with you that engagement is one of the 5 elements of really having a sense of well being

00:49:59.490 --> 00:50:25.859 Frank R. Harrison: exactly, and also knowing that if you have value in yourself which Betty knew her value, she knew what needed to be shared with those that were seeking support or guidance or direction, because maybe they weren't sure of their value, whether it was personally or professionally so. She just was the grandmother, the mother figure, the friend, the the colleague, the individual that.

00:50:26.010 --> 00:50:29.040 Frank R. Harrison: unlike other people in the Hollywood system.

00:50:29.110 --> 00:50:39.749 Frank R. Harrison: she was not subscribing to the model, she was being her own model. She was

00:50:40.150 --> 00:50:45.710 Frank R. Harrison: well speaking about authenticity. If you remember, we also did a show with both

00:50:45.750 --> 00:50:53.370 Frank R. Harrison: Ben Litel as well as James Swanson about really what is dubbed today is artificial intelligence. Yet

00:50:53.650 --> 00:51:09.169 Frank R. Harrison: what was actually discussed on the show was about Fmri technology and how it was looking at certain responses in the brain. When you're given information that could make you think positively. Or if you're given negative information, how does the brain respond to that?

00:51:09.290 --> 00:51:21.480 Frank R. Harrison: I don't know if we have enough time to show it, but I wanted to bring that up because the whole aspect of artificial intelligence is is growing lead by leaps and bounds. I mean, I'm sure you've heard of Chat Tpt.

00:51:21.620 --> 00:51:30.770 Frank R. Harrison: and then even other people in the health care professions, talking about how you'll be able to use artificial intelligence to make

00:51:31.100 --> 00:51:56.060 Frank R. Harrison: caregivers sound like your own voice, actually communicate through your Alexa devices, for example, or your phone devices, and say, remember, Frank, to take your medication, or remember, Frank, you have a show this afternoon, but to hear your own voice and actually motivate you and provide you those happiness hormones, as you indicated. I mean, I'm a little bit skeptical about it, but at the same time it sounds very promising.

00:51:56.110 --> 00:52:12.410 Phyllis Quinlan: What what do you think about artificial? Well, you know. I'm going to say in a very practical sense, I we are using artificial intelligence right now, and the the one piece that comes to mind almost immediately is how we're using robots in pharmacy.

00:52:12.750 --> 00:52:17.719 Phyllis Quinlan: right? So that you know the we we there are.

00:52:18.750 --> 00:52:43.760 Phyllis Quinlan: I don't understand all of it by by by any stretch, but I can tell you that most hospitals now have at least one robot in the pharmacy that is augmenting. Being able to mix, create, safely, prepare the the mountains of medication and infusions that are needed on a 24 h basis. That

00:52:43.760 --> 00:53:05.500 Phyllis Quinlan: they're doing the the, the, the, the the manual piece, and then, of course, the pharmacists are checking the quality and the you know the the strength and the diagnosis, so that you have license pharmacists doing the mental work and the robot doing the you know that the physical work

00:53:05.900 --> 00:53:15.559 Phyllis Quinlan: and it it really is a wonderful way to be able to increase safety, decrease the risk of having an era but also

00:53:15.780 --> 00:53:42.089 Phyllis Quinlan: which, again, playing to mental health, is using people at their highest capacity of licensure, so that they don't feel they're that 60% or 50% of their time is is doing mundane things. They can do the other work. And we can have the artificial intelligence the robot to that piece. So we're we're getting comfortable with robots in the pharmacy now. So that that's not cutting edge anymore.

00:53:42.090 --> 00:53:50.529 Phyllis Quinlan: You know, it's been around for a while. We're refining it and doing that. It's going to be very interesting to see what's next.

00:53:50.690 --> 00:54:01.930 Phyllis Quinlan: And my my only concern is that I, you know, and this was what we found with Covid. you know I don't want to. I don't want the artificial intelligence to

00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:16.190 Phyllis Quinlan: to artificially give us that sense of personal distancing. Again, I think it's so important for everybody to re-engage. It's so important to remember that one of the fundamental pieces of mental health is the quality of the relationships you have with people.

00:54:16.220 --> 00:54:35.260 Phyllis Quinlan: And you don't want to rely on digital. And all of that, there's a lot coming out about the harm that digital is doing to our younger population. I think we need that word and go slowly. I'm not saying don't go forward, but I think we need to not ignore some of the the findings that are coming up.

00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:41.180 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah, they can exceed us progress. But with question, well, where it is

00:54:41.440 --> 00:55:00.720 Frank R. Harrison: right. We have 2 min before break now, everyone out there. This show could not have been possible without the work of our engineer Dylan, who is going to be leaving us, I guess, today or this week he's moving on to greener pastures, as they say he will be missed. I'm going to have him.

00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:02.880 Frank R. Harrison: you know. Say hello to us. But

00:55:02.890 --> 00:55:24.799 Frank R. Harrison: when, because of the whole zoom technology, he's already informed us that he can only do that after we close out the show. So let me do all of that due diligence right now. First of all, stay tuned for Friday's slate of shows here on talk radio and Nyc. Which are philanthropy and focus with Tommy D. Always Friday with Steve Fry closing out the week with in tangify with Matthew as Bell.

00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:49.740 Frank R. Harrison: and then we'll be back again next week right here on Frank about health. But I want to close out the show with another guest that we had on Peggy Pelosi, who had showed what it was like to be authentic while living with diabetes. So at least, aside from all the work that she did as a professional nurse and an advocate for children with diabetes. She was also being her true self again. Another key issue with mental health

00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:59.269 Frank R. Harrison: being as authentic with yourself and with others as possible. So, ladies and gentlemen, and Phyllis, thank you for coming back on this commemorative show, and

00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:08.119 Frank R. Harrison: I will be taking the road further with not just Nyu Medical Center, but also with Hilton hotels

00:56:08.140 --> 00:56:32.199 Frank R. Harrison: coming up. Starting in the summertime. We are going to have Ben Lidel return to discuss more about artificial intelligence, and we're going to have a lot more interesting guests to go into our third year with. Thank you, Sam, for everything these last 2 years, and for the next year or so, and now I will sign off, and we will see Dylan pop his head in, and we will see you all next week

00:56:32.460 --> 00:56:33.800 Phyllis Quinlan: you'll be missed.

00:56:33.870 --> 00:56:35.050 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly.

00:56:35.730 --> 00:56:39.150 All right. Let me just get this all done.

00:56:41.540 --> 00:56:42.920 Frank R. Harrison: Okay.

00:56:51.120 --> 00:57:00.150 Frank R. Harrison: it puts me in a place where I'm so happy, and I'm so out there, and I forget everything, and I have the biggest smile on my face.

00:57:01.680 --> 00:57:08.620 Frank R. Harrison: Not everybody finds something that they really really enjoy. Some people are still looking for that and searching for like.

00:57:08.710 --> 00:57:12.600 Frank R. Harrison: where's a place that makes them just who they are?

00:57:14.640 --> 00:57:17.020 Frank R. Harrison: Sometimes we get lost. And

00:57:17.060 --> 00:57:27.009 Frank R. Harrison: you know, being a mom or or taking care of your work life. People have a hard time to find that balance, and when you have something that you're very passionate about.

00:57:27.160 --> 00:57:32.660 Frank R. Harrison: It's easier to find that balance you like. Okay, there's a time for relaxation.

00:57:32.710 --> 00:57:42.300 Frank R. Harrison: There's a time for play. There's a time for work. It's a time for everything, and it's important to make sure that individuals find that time and make your quality

00:57:43.190 --> 00:57:44.360 the.

00:57:48.420 --> 00:57:51.930 Frank R. Harrison: Thank you so much.

00:57:52.370 --> 00:58:03.839 All right. And let's see if we can see Dylan there somewhere. Blessings! Yes, good luck to you!

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