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This week, on The Conscious Consultant Hour, Sam welcomes Doctor, Author, Executive Producer, and Speaker, Sheila Grace Newsom, MD.
Sheila Grace Newsom, MD, MA, 72, is a practicing physician in Austin, TX. She answered a calling to gender transition which began at age 63.
Since then, she has written a book, A Calling from the Bones, volunteered at a local clinic offering gender centered care, undergone gender affirming surgery, and completed the MA program at Pacifica in Depth Psychology.
She created a concierge practice centered around ketamine and focuses on PTSD and suicidality.
Before her transition, she graduated from West Point, where she was the captain of the baseball team, served for 4 years as a paratrooper, then attained her MD at the University of Texas Medical Branch. She was a partner in two large nephrology practices in West Texas until retiring in 2011. She has been an executive producer on three films, spoke at SxSW on “Keeping the Soul in Psychedelics” in 2021, and is now doing consulting work with BRC, a large addiction treatment center in Manor, TX.
Join Sam and Dr. Newsom as they discuss the unique challenges she has faced, and how psychedelics can be a powerful treatment tool.
Sam opens today's segment with a section from his book Everyday Awakening, titled “The universe speaks to us all the time, we just have to pay attention.” As individuals we have a tendency to assume these messages are often random events. Sam urges us to understand that circumstances can cause us to lean towards or away from a certain situation, and encourages his readers to pay attention to what life is trying to tell you. You can purchase the book at www.everydayawakeningbook.com. Sam welcomes Doctor, Author, Executive Producer, and Speaker, Sheila Grace Newsom, MD. Dr. Sheila, 72, is a practicing physician in Austin, TX. She answered a calling to gender transition which began at age 63. Sheila draws parallels from her life to that of Sam’s excerpt from his book. The notion of synchronicity resonates with her. She fundamentally believes that the universe works with you, as you work with it.
Dr. Sheila went to Texas A&M for a year before she joined the military. Her mother, who she describes as a guiding force in her life, suggested she go to West Point for medical school. Sheila transitioned in a very public way through her involvement at West Point. She maintained very close ties with the institution throughout her life. Her comrades were very accepting of her journey. Sheila didn’t understand what she was experiencing until after retirement. As a former alpha male physician and family man, she was in denial for two years regarding her identity. Her suicide attempt was a wakeup call that ushered her to pursue her calling with full force. Post transition, with the help of therapy, Dr. Sheila was retrospectively able to recognize that throughout her life gender dysmorphia was at play. Sheila explains the work that her family did to reframe their understanding of the situation, and how close all of them are today.
Dr. Sheila started studying depth psychology after her transition, completing her masters in 2021. Her original area of specialty was the kidney. At the age of 42 she received treatment in Atlanta for the use of drugs and alcohol. Sobriety illuminated a new path for her, she felt drawn to the inner workings of the mind and made the decision to study it. As a former drug user, she was very reluctant to experiment with ketamine therapy or psychedelic based therapy. However, after the return of her suicidal ideation, she opened herself up to the treatment and realized the effectiveness of it. It is a product she now implements herself in various treatments. Dr. Sheila’s focus on PTSD, suicidality, and psychedelics stems from her own journey.
At SXSW in 2022, Dr. Sheila talked about the sacred elements of psychedelic medication. Sam mentions that psychedelics are known to treat the soul. Sheila vouches for ketamine, having taken it numerous times herself. Her job is to create a sense of safety as individuals take the psychedelic journey of self healing. Dr. Sheila has been an executive producer for three films. The first opportunity came about during her time with Austin Film Society. She has since also worked on a feature length film, and a film called Lovely Beloved that just got released. Dr. Sheila also intends to publish another book. You can contact Dr. Sheila on LinkedIn under the profile Sheila Grace Newsom M.A, M.D. or on through her website findingmetis.com.
00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:50.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Good afternoon. Good evening. Good morning. Whenever you're tuning in. Welcome to the conscious consultant hour awakening humanity. I am very, very pleased
00:00:50.080 --> 00:01:04.879 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that you were all here with me today. We have a very special show in store for you today, and i'm really looking forward to it. So let's get going. We'll start off, of course, as we
00:01:04.980 --> 00:01:16.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: always do, or at least I always. We've been doing for the last year or so with a little section of my book every day awakening, and this section is entitled
00:01:16.410 --> 00:01:21.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The Universe speaks to us all the time. We just have to pay attention.
00:01:22.350 --> 00:01:27.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Messages come to us from the universe every single day.
00:01:27.420 --> 00:01:32.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They come to us in many forms. They show up in different aspects of our life.
00:01:33.380 --> 00:01:44.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The important thing is to pay attention to them. These messages may be ones of encouragement that come to us by the right people showing up at the right time
00:01:45.150 --> 00:01:49.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: by an unexpected phone call by a new opportunity showing up.
00:01:51.430 --> 00:01:56.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We sometimes think these are just the results of the work we've done.
00:01:56.740 --> 00:02:10.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and they are. And they were also more than that. Why would things go so smoothly this time compared to the last? Why did business suddenly pick up, even though we hadn't done anything differently.
00:02:11.460 --> 00:02:12.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Pay attention.
00:02:13.770 --> 00:02:27.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Do the circumstances of our life move us in a particular direction? Do they cause us to lean towards or away from a certain situation. Perhaps the universe is trying to tell us something.
00:02:28.130 --> 00:02:40.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Perhaps life is speaking speaking to us in the only way it can. The real question is, Are we open to listening. our eyes opening open to seeing?
00:02:41.100 --> 00:02:45.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If we are not open, we usually don't see
00:02:45.910 --> 00:02:57.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: if we are closed off to a possibility because of calling it impossible. We usually don't get it. Nothing is impossible for life.
00:02:57.810 --> 00:03:07.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, there are many paths before us, but when we pay attention to the signs around us. We know which one to take.
00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:11.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Are you paying attention to what the universe is telling you?
00:03:13.190 --> 00:03:16.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So? I wrote this section a while ago.
00:03:17.470 --> 00:03:22.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I I I believe this this kind of came from
00:03:22.070 --> 00:03:33.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the outgrowth of conversation I had with a friend. and they were asking me about how I got into running the radio station and and the wellness center and all the stuff I was doing.
00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:47.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I was just kind of like. Well, I met a guy at a party, you know. This kind of came to me. I just said yes, and they like oh, my God! That's so amazing! I can't believe like all this opportunity came to you, and and and and and I thought about it.
00:03:48.310 --> 00:03:54.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and I thought, you know it would have been really easy for me to pass by that opportunity.
00:03:54.650 --> 00:04:07.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know lots of things come to us day in and day out. and sometimes we say yes, and Sometimes we say no, and sometimes we we can't believe it. We don't think it's real. So we don't even pay attention to it.
00:04:09.820 --> 00:04:15.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so it's just something that I realized about myself, and how much it serves me
00:04:16.410 --> 00:04:21.329 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is that I've always had the ability to just say yes to life.
00:04:22.530 --> 00:04:30.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: sometimes with with some challenging results. But many times things have worked out well.
00:04:32.550 --> 00:04:41.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and it's not because I had a plea pre-planned idea of where I wanted to go, what had to happen, and how this was supposed to work out.
00:04:42.880 --> 00:04:45.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It was really just me
00:04:45.800 --> 00:05:02.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just being flexible and open, and and you know, not really 100% sure what to make of something. And I just figure, you know. Say yes. See how it goes for a while. If it doesn't work out, you can always say I changed my mind. No.
00:05:04.670 --> 00:05:08.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but so often, if we can just be open.
00:05:08.420 --> 00:05:11.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: even if several things come to us.
00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:23.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and none of them work out. And then there's that one. And then there's that one that just is the right thing at the right time in the right place when we're the right person.
00:05:23.990 --> 00:05:26.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and then boom, magic happens
00:05:27.750 --> 00:05:40.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A. And again, this doesn't have to be about business. It could be about relationships. It could be about meeting the your future partner. It could be about a family. It could be about just experiences.
00:05:43.370 --> 00:05:49.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so I guess, in this section. It it's really about
00:05:50.530 --> 00:06:03.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: encouraging us all to remember, to just be a little bit more open to what life to what the universe puts in our path.
00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and sometimes it puts something in our path.
00:06:07.890 --> 00:06:13.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I don't really believe in the idea of sort of teaching us a lesson, but maybe showing us
00:06:13.690 --> 00:06:19.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: how far we've come giving us an opportunity to exercise our boundaries.
00:06:19.290 --> 00:06:29.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. Sometimes someone shows up, and and we kind of get sucked into their drama, and we're like. No, no, no, no, this is not for me, and then it's an opportunity to practice our boundaries and say.
00:06:29.580 --> 00:06:38.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: your stuff is your stuff. My stuff is my stuff. Let's agree to keep that as separate. And sometimes it's just about.
00:06:38.130 --> 00:06:40.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you know. Here's some amazing
00:06:40.820 --> 00:06:58.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: opportunity to hang out with friends or go to some experience like a friend told me about this amazing thing. It when I was in San Diego, called Beatifica, which was being shown in their like Science Center in Balboa Park, and it's like on this dome roof. And it was
00:06:58.570 --> 00:07:01.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: just an amazing
00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:10.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: experience, and i'm just so appreciative to my friend for mentioning it to me, and and that just being open to going. And it was wonderful.
00:07:10.910 --> 00:07:12.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So
00:07:14.700 --> 00:07:18.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you just never know. And and so i'm not saying it's.
00:07:18.450 --> 00:07:36.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, it could be about a business opportunity or a career move it could be about, hang out with friends, or meeting somebody who becomes your best friend overnight, or or about finding a partner, or it could be about just having an amazing opportunity that you couldn't have imagined.
00:07:39.670 --> 00:07:42.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When we're open to possibilities.
00:07:43.660 --> 00:07:48.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's so much easier for life to bring amazing things to us.
00:07:51.110 --> 00:07:57.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and as long as we're clear that you know this is the kind of experience we're looking for.
00:07:58.580 --> 00:08:08.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I want to make great connections, and have wonderful relationships with amazing people who will enrich and enhance my life. just having that intention
00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:14.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: can open you up to such amazing opportunities to connect with people.
00:08:15.760 --> 00:08:46.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that's my section of my book. This section is the universe speaks to us all the time. We just have to pay attention, and that, of course, is from my book. Everyday Awakening, which you can get@www.everydayawakeningbook.com, and of course that just takes you to the Amazon listing. But if you're like me, and you'd like to support small independent bookstores we're in a major distributor. So any bookstore you can just ask them to order everyday awakening by Sam Leibowitz.
00:08:46.880 --> 00:08:52.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Make sure to give them my name, and and they can order the book, and and you can have a copy of it so
00:08:53.240 --> 00:09:06.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: already. So I I see. Loyal listener Paddy, listening to the live stream. Thanks for tuning in, as always, Paddy, you were got to be one of my most loyal listeners.
00:09:06.420 --> 00:09:20.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I, Miss William and Sonia, is also very loyal listener, though I haven't seen William for a little while, but probably timing is not so good. All right. So now it is my extreme pleasure to welcome to the show
00:09:21.370 --> 00:09:41.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: doctor, author, executive producer, and speaker, Sheila grace Newsome and D. Dr. Sheila is 72 is a practicing physician in austin Texas she answered a calling a very unusual calling for gender transition which began at the age of 63. So
00:09:41.290 --> 00:09:49.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: not only is gender transition unusual, but to do it at that age is very unusual. Since then she has written a book a calling from the bones.
00:09:49.710 --> 00:10:10.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: She volunteered at local clinic offering gender-centered care undergone gender affirming surgery and completed the the Ma at Pacifica University in depth psychology. She created a concierge practice centered around ketamine and focus on Ptsd and suicidality. And you guys know, Ketamine is
00:10:10.800 --> 00:10:22.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: the I think it's the only nationally legal psychedelic substance that that therapists can use. Before her transition. She graduated from West Point.
00:10:22.490 --> 00:10:52.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: where she was the captain of the baseball team, served for 4 years as a paratrooper, and then attained her Md. At the University of Texas Medical Branch. She was a partner in 2 large nephrology practices in West Texas, until retiring in 2,011. She has been an executive producer on 3 films. She's spoken at south by southwest on keeping the soul in Psychedelics in 21, and is now doing consulting work with brc
00:10:52.490 --> 00:10:58.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: large addiction Treatment Center in Manor Texas welcome to the conscious. Consult now, or Sheila.
00:11:00.430 --> 00:11:01.610 Sheila Newsom: Thank you, Sam.
00:11:02.850 --> 00:11:16.910 Sheila Newsom: I did. I just wanted to to to reflect back on on your reading from this morning, and you know I think it. It speaks to so much of my Jeremy. But that synchronicity
00:11:17.130 --> 00:11:21.950 Sheila Newsom: that that you're you're You're invoking
00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:30.490 Sheila Newsom: how events seem to to fall in line. But all of it seems at times to be based upon a calling.
00:11:30.740 --> 00:11:44.760 Sheila Newsom: and I I I think that the thing that one of the things that I learned most in my training at Pacific and depth. Psychology is that the universe works with you as you work with it.
00:11:45.060 --> 00:11:50.380 Sheila Newsom: and trying to to figure out what that feels like.
00:11:50.570 --> 00:11:52.480 Sheila Newsom: I think that's the hard part
00:11:53.960 --> 00:12:01.870 Sheila Newsom: A. And the duration of some of our movements of our pivots. I mean, how difficult they can be.
00:12:02.270 --> 00:12:13.030 Sheila Newsom: and I think that's the the other thing that once you answer a calling, though it seems that you get into that stream. and
00:12:14.050 --> 00:12:21.590 Sheila Newsom: from a temporal perspective it may be something that goes on. You think for a long time, and yet changes happen
00:12:21.860 --> 00:12:34.210 Sheila Newsom: magically in a at at the right time, and sometimes it seems too long, sometimes too short. But All I will say about what you have said is I've been there.
00:12:34.370 --> 00:12:40.800 Sheila Newsom: I've done that. I've experienced it and continue to experience it. And thank you for reminding me.
00:12:41.370 --> 00:13:11.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you, Thank you, Dr. Sheila. And and actually last week our episode connecting with meaningful coincidences with Dr. Bernard Biteman. He did a a whole study, and then wrote a book called a couple of Books on on Meaningful Coincidences, and all about synchronicity. And what happens when things just kind of come together and paying attention to them. So for any of my listeners who who who didn't catch last week's episode I highly recommend.
00:13:11.370 --> 00:13:28.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I recommend checking it out. If this idea of synchronicity and coincidence, if you feel there's a little more behind it. So I I highly recommend that. Okay, Dr. Sheila, I I would like to get into your background a little bit. We got to take our first break, so when we come back from break
00:13:28.130 --> 00:13:49.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I would like to kind of talk about. How did you go from being a paratrooper for 4 years to doing what you're doing today? It it's it's kind of a big transition from being in the military to to being a healer. But you basically are, and and and why.
00:13:49.970 --> 00:14:01.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and and you know, talk a little bit about sort of the the the gender transition, and and why Kenamine and Psychedelics hold such an appeal for you. Okay.
00:14:01.740 --> 00:14:02.510 Sheila Newsom: sure.
00:14:02.680 --> 00:14:30.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful. Thank you so much. So everyone. Please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consulting our awakening humanity. We do this every Thursday. 12 noon to one Pm. Eastern right here and talk radio Dot Nyc: and you can also hear us on Kmt. And Palm Springs, California on Wednesdays at 10 am. And of course, online on talk radio down Nyc. On demand, and and all your favorite podcasting platforms, and we will be right back
00:14:30.230 --> 00:14:33.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: with Dr. Sheila Newsom in just a moment.
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00:16:49.920 --> 00:17:00.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious, consulting hour awakening humanity. We're speaking this hour with Dr. Sheila Grace Newsom from Austin, Texas. So.
00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:01.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Dr. Sheila.
00:17:02.790 --> 00:17:07.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I'm just curious. Why did you join the military at a young age.
00:17:09.290 --> 00:17:24.960 Sheila Newsom: Sam? I actually went to Texas a. And M. For a year before, and my mother out of the wild boy I I I was playing baseball, and I done pretty well my breastf one year there.
00:17:24.980 --> 00:17:35.790 Sheila Newsom: and my mother sent me a something early in the year, saying, hey! I just saw this in the paper and thought you might be interested, and it was a that
00:17:35.810 --> 00:17:38.520 Sheila Newsom: something about the application to go to West Point.
00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:50.870 Sheila Newsom: I don't know I met it, and I said, You know I think i'd like to do that. And one thing led to another. I did the testing, and it was accepted West Point, and
00:17:51.040 --> 00:17:57.220 Sheila Newsom: and that must have been April 1969
00:17:57.460 --> 00:18:10.080 Sheila Newsom: So it was actually a prompting for my mother, who had been my guiding for for a long time. And same thing that basically happened about going to medical school.
00:18:10.280 --> 00:18:18.060 Sheila Newsom: So it's really a prompt from somebody that that I love dearly, and you have my best interest in part. So
00:18:18.140 --> 00:18:20.210 Sheila Newsom: one thing led to another.
00:18:20.270 --> 00:18:28.960 Sheila Newsom: I will say, though, that the moment I walked through the gates at West Point. I felt at home. It was. It was the most
00:18:29.270 --> 00:18:29.840 yeah.
00:18:31.040 --> 00:18:32.790 Sheila Newsom: It was the most
00:18:34.840 --> 00:18:36.270 Sheila Newsom: beautiful feeling
00:18:36.460 --> 00:18:43.590 Sheila Newsom: to know that I was at the right place at the right time, doing right thing in the right way, for reasons.
00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:44.570 Sheila Newsom: and that
00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:56.310 Sheila Newsom: that that has stayed with me around my experience at West Point. It's it's something in the ethos. There it's something that's very deep in my so
00:18:56.360 --> 00:19:02.050 Sheila Newsom: and I i'm very reverential about the the the spirit
00:19:02.130 --> 00:19:04.130 Sheila Newsom: That is how it there.
00:19:04.350 --> 00:19:05.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Hmm.
00:19:05.330 --> 00:19:32.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah. Wonderful wonderful. I I I guess there's a certain camaraderie that also develops when you're your working, especially in the military. It. It's about working together as a group, and so you learn to rely on on on the other people in your class and your troop in a way in in in your training for dealing with life and death situation. So that really creates a very strong bond between you. Doesn't it.
00:19:33.100 --> 00:19:41.510 Sheila Newsom: It it does. And I There's a a story I I want to share in that. I actually transitioned a lot
00:19:41.660 --> 00:19:55.120 Sheila Newsom: in in a public way through my involvement at West point. I was on their Development Community for several years, and my wife and I, after retirement, had given me some money, and so
00:19:55.240 --> 00:20:05.800 Sheila Newsom: it we. We were treated very well in going to that experience. But the the thing that was most important when I said.
00:20:06.090 --> 00:20:08.000 Sheila Newsom: and I guess we'll talk about
00:20:08.020 --> 00:20:14.740 Sheila Newsom: when that calling came. But when I began to transition, there were a group of about 9 classmates of mine
00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:32.490 Sheila Newsom: who wanted to sit down with me, and we met at West Point. But all of these were in my class, and these individuals wanted to hear what it got on in my life to prompt me to make this Radical late in life decision
00:20:32.490 --> 00:20:35.990 Sheila Newsom: that would change so much about him and what I was.
00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:47.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But those classmates took that time to to come to West point to have that conversation.
00:20:47.720 --> 00:21:07.260 Sheila Newsom: You know the the last 2 years has been an awkward, an awkward transition just in the forces around transit around transgender. And yet, you know we're all feeling that it's coming up in the crosshairs in the unconscious room. So
00:21:07.290 --> 00:21:13.090 Sheila Newsom: my fiftieth Westport reunion is this month, and not to go
00:21:13.170 --> 00:21:19.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: breaks my heart, because there's some of those people I would love to be with and to see. But
00:21:19.900 --> 00:21:29.820 Sheila Newsom: I just don't want to be seen as the center of a a a distraction, or drawing away from the accomplishments of the class and the individuals that are there.
00:21:29.850 --> 00:21:33.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Gotcha Gotcha can understand that I can understand that.
00:21:33.830 --> 00:21:40.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So so let's talk about it. You You transition relatively late in life.
00:21:40.840 --> 00:21:51.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When did you first feel the calling and and and I? I'm curious, just like what was so strong about it that you decided to to go through with it.
00:21:51.890 --> 00:22:04.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: because I've heard it said that nobody voluntarily chooses to be transgender because it's so difficult and so challenging. And I've I've known people who've gone through it, and and you you get
00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:13.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: beat upon by society, you know verbally, mentally, emotionally, in so many ways that it's such a difficult thing.
00:22:14.570 --> 00:22:21.190 Sheila Newsom: Sam. It it it was a call, I mean. I was sitting on the deck of my retirement home
00:22:21.210 --> 00:22:37.830 Sheila Newsom: in Nevas, in the West Indies, and looking out drinking coffee on April the thirteenth, and I of 2,013, and I heard a voice. It was as you and I sitting here talking, and it, said.
00:22:38.140 --> 00:22:43.390 Sheila Newsom: Sheila, you are a woman, and always have been. There is work to do.
00:22:43.700 --> 00:22:53.550 Sheila Newsom: And from that point on, you know, when I, when a calling happens, and in whatever ways you want to to to think about.
00:22:53.720 --> 00:23:04.400 Sheila Newsom: you know it. It's hard to negotiate that, and I spent a good 2 years fighting it. My wife and family would be deeply affected.
00:23:04.590 --> 00:23:12.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A relationship would never be the same. I'd like this. I' this life of an Alpha male position.
00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:18.690 Sheila Newsom: Love, family, love. My girls love my wife, and
00:23:18.760 --> 00:23:22.390 Sheila Newsom: I was still being called to do this, and
00:23:22.540 --> 00:23:29.740 Sheila Newsom: so in 2,015, I went back to Nevada and had a plan to commit suicide. By the
00:23:32.030 --> 00:23:36.650 Sheila Newsom: the only way that I was going to honorably get out of this. And
00:23:36.930 --> 00:23:46.820 Sheila Newsom: so, while I was there, I remember the night before I was going to do it. I had a clear plan, and I heard that voice again standing out under the moon, and
00:23:46.850 --> 00:23:53.000 Sheila Newsom: that will she. This is about free will, and you do what you want. But there are people that could be helped.
00:23:53.120 --> 00:24:03.240 Sheila Newsom: It will not be helped if you do this. So from that point on, in 2,015. I knew that it was something that I had to move toward.
00:24:03.750 --> 00:24:06.640 Sheila Newsom: and so I I
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.060 Sheila Newsom: had. We had our
00:24:10.800 --> 00:24:12.970 Sheila Newsom: oldest daughters
00:24:13.330 --> 00:24:18.720 Sheila Newsom: wedding, and he was, and that was in May of 2,018, and
00:24:18.760 --> 00:24:24.420 Sheila Newsom: that was the last time they saw me as Gary and his father and husband
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:26.960 Sheila Newsom: and I. I went to
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.550 Sheila Newsom: facial feminization surgery in Boston and
00:24:30.650 --> 00:24:37.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: in September 2,018, and that that was that was that final line, and the same
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:48.390 Sheila Newsom: knew that once I had crossed over to that, that things would never be the same, and they want. But I did wake up from 13 h of anesthesia
00:24:48.490 --> 00:24:54.470 Sheila Newsom: in the dark room, and the voice said to you like you done Well. Now then, for to do
00:24:54.530 --> 00:24:57.030 Sheila Newsom: I've had this
00:24:57.040 --> 00:25:00.600 Sheila Newsom: prompting them something that I is not me.
00:25:00.760 --> 00:25:10.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's deeper. And so I've just basically followed those fonts. Wow, it really it. It takes a lot of bravery to do that.
00:25:10.950 --> 00:25:13.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I'm: i'm curious
00:25:13.330 --> 00:25:23.600 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: before that night, and on, and in 2,013, which April thirteenth happens to be my wedding anniversary. That that would have been my tenth wedding anniversary
00:25:24.030 --> 00:25:29.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: had you had any indication, any any kind of inkling that
00:25:29.360 --> 00:25:33.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: something might be brewing there. Or is this just totally out of the blue.
00:25:33.770 --> 00:25:39.260 Sheila Newsom: Sam? You know, when I had to look back, and what the
00:25:39.550 --> 00:25:44.220 Sheila Newsom: years at Pacifica, in depth, psychology, and and being, and
00:25:44.350 --> 00:25:52.160 Sheila Newsom: in therapy for many years, I had to look back at each part, each part and parcel of my life. And sure enough.
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:59.580 Sheila Newsom: as early as being in kindergarten, and I write about it in my book a calling from the phones.
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:08.290 Sheila Newsom: But I remember being one among the girls, and we had a dance recital, and
00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:15.840 Sheila Newsom: the big thing was that the the woman who ran the the the place put on
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:23.030 Sheila Newsom: make up, you know I would high I 2 years that we did this I would hide so that I wouldn't have to take off the makeup.
00:26:23.330 --> 00:26:26.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that was my first knowing.
00:26:26.190 --> 00:26:36.710 Sheila Newsom: You know they this was well before the times of what even that might need. So there are points in my life that I can tell you that that was there
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:48.610 Sheila Newsom: and broke through. But it wasn't clear until that very moment when there was a clarity, and she, like you, were one always having.
00:26:49.400 --> 00:27:02.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I had a guest on my show a couple of months ago. Bob Russo, who is a wonderful executive coach, and he's now like a spiritual teacher. But he came out as being gay after many years of being married.
00:27:03.130 --> 00:27:16.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and the way he did it. His His wife was very supportive of him, and he said, there's still very good friends, and and there, and his family is all very acceptive of of his new identity and his new partner.
00:27:16.520 --> 00:27:23.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I was You've been with your family, and your wife, or ex-wife. I don't know.
00:27:23.750 --> 00:27:29.510 Sheila Newsom: No, we're still married, and she's the she's the hero and all of this, and
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.760 Sheila Newsom: it was very, very difficult.
00:27:34.300 --> 00:27:49.880 Sheila Newsom: A. And I think, Tim, that's the the thing that we we underestimate from an on top again. We're talking about the unconscious realm. What what images we carry for others, especially those that we love.
00:27:50.270 --> 00:27:57.530 Sheila Newsom: And so I didn't. I didn't know what image it was that I carried as father.
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:08.840 Sheila Newsom: Yeah, the the valence, the charge. With that, the importance and others lives in others. So I did not understand that
00:28:09.550 --> 00:28:26.640 Sheila Newsom: I do now, and I see how impactful that is in the deep level. But the thing is is that it's taken us all about 5 years to finally rearrange the the the the chairs, where and how we relate to each other.
00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:34.450 Sheila Newsom: My wife and I are probably closer than we ever had been. I can tell you I love her more than I ever had.
00:28:34.730 --> 00:28:46.260 Sheila Newsom: We live separate lives. We're in separate homes, very supported with each other, as we have been. I think that's what spiritual love is truly about. It's something with my girls.
00:28:46.320 --> 00:28:52.940 Sheila Newsom: I am so proud, and and each of them the way that they work through this themselves.
00:28:53.160 --> 00:29:21.540 Sheila Newsom: And my way of thinking. Those Those 3 women are the Zoom Rooms. I I reflect, back to 27 and 36 and going to need this for kind of a celebration in July, when the 3 of us will be together for the first time in Nevada. Oh, nice nice. I've heard of nevas. I've never been there. It's it's one of the lesser known islands in the Caribbean isn't it?
00:29:21.570 --> 00:29:32.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, and i'd like to keep it. I might want to come visit you there. All right. Okay. It's time for our next break when we come back.
00:29:32.320 --> 00:29:47.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let's let's start talking about your your practice and around helping people with Ptsd and suicidality. And and what got you into ketamine in psychedelics? Because that's a whole. Another topic. What I really love to focus on. Okay.
00:29:47.310 --> 00:29:47.930 Okay.
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00:32:00.510 --> 00:32:14.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and welcome back to the conscious consult now awakening humanity, Dr. Sheila. So when did you start to study depth psychology at Pacifica? Was this before the transition or after the transition.
00:32:14.310 --> 00:32:34.240 Sheila Newsom: No, it it was after the translation, and it I moved there in 2,019, and finished my masters in 2,021 right now. No, you're a a medical doctor. What? What was your specialty as a medical doctor?
00:32:34.250 --> 00:32:36.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Transplantation
00:32:37.010 --> 00:32:42.600 Sheila Newsom: Later, in in my practice. I did a lot of my death and dying
00:32:42.650 --> 00:32:49.610 Sheila Newsom: work, and that that was a a large part of what I did.
00:32:49.890 --> 00:33:01.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wow, wow! And and so it's not very common that you see someone from a medical background. Then we go more into a therapeutic background. Wh what was it that made you decide that, like
00:33:01.890 --> 00:33:04.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you wanted to start to help people in a different way.
00:33:06.310 --> 00:33:07.450 Sheila Newsom: Well.
00:33:07.850 --> 00:33:16.600 Sheila Newsom: there, there's there's one bifurcation in in my history that i'm about to account for, and at the age of 42
00:33:16.670 --> 00:33:27.010 Sheila Newsom: I went to treatment and Atlanta for a drugs and alcohol. and so I I spent 6 months there
00:33:27.180 --> 00:33:30.870 Sheila Newsom: at Tablet Marsh Recovery Center in. So for
00:33:31.010 --> 00:33:34.840 Sheila Newsom: musicians and and
00:33:34.990 --> 00:33:36.230 Sheila Newsom: the Council to
00:33:36.390 --> 00:33:48.910 Sheila Newsom: by nature. But so I've been sober now for 30 years, but it was that gift of Friday, that compromise at the age of 42 to most everything.
00:33:49.060 --> 00:33:59.690 Sheila Newsom: and along the way. Then, after 42, then those sparkly moments, the right people right
00:33:59.710 --> 00:34:04.210 Sheila Newsom: became so important, and I had guides all along the way.
00:34:04.280 --> 00:34:09.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so I knew I had always been late, especially around the
00:34:09.980 --> 00:34:25.940 Sheila Newsom: recovery and spirituality introduced me to a lot of these other conscious concepts and unconscious concepts. So I began to read everything that I could from the depth perspective from 2,000 on
00:34:25.969 --> 00:34:39.590 Sheila Newsom: and studied astrology, and i'm i'm, i'm i'm i'm i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm i'm i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm i'm, i'm, i'm I in death and dying work or you zoom center and
00:34:39.730 --> 00:34:49.239 Sheila Newsom: I went to vision quest I did a lot of things then that introduced me to these concepts. So it was not anything brand new
00:34:49.330 --> 00:35:05.310 Sheila Newsom: and but the formal calling, and and I I really thought that I would stay and do the Phd. That's why I entered in 2,019, expecting to complete a a complete a Phd.
00:35:05.330 --> 00:35:11.760 Sheila Newsom: But I had a dream that was very clear, and that it was time to get out and start using my credentials.
00:35:14.210 --> 00:35:16.040 Sheila Newsom: That that's how I got through.
00:35:16.680 --> 00:35:29.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So the now you've had challenges with with substances in the past. What sort of attracted you to psychedelics? And why do you feel like psychedelics? Is such a powerful treatment mechanism.
00:35:30.460 --> 00:35:32.350 Sheila Newsom: Well, I i'll
00:35:32.670 --> 00:35:48.140 Sheila Newsom: clear clear that a and separate those there, each one of those psychedelic, seems to have their own teacher or or their own process, and for ketamine was very specific for me. I
00:35:48.140 --> 00:35:55.010 Sheila Newsom: did not want to have anything to do with any of that, because I was afraid around my sobriety.
00:35:55.050 --> 00:36:03.610 Sheila Newsom: and so I I wrestled with that for a long time, and just never bothered
00:36:03.690 --> 00:36:07.890 Sheila Newsom: the pro. The thing that happened, though, is that the suicidality
00:36:08.040 --> 00:36:11.870 Sheila Newsom: aviation showed up again
00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:17.220 Sheila Newsom: it later in life. It was not until 2,020.
00:36:17.350 --> 00:36:22.750 Sheila Newsom: Yeah. I really felt the that suicidal
00:36:22.810 --> 00:36:24.150 Sheila Newsom: compulsion.
00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:26.820 Sheila Newsom: There seems to be a
00:36:26.950 --> 00:36:35.690 Sheila Newsom: a a major component of suicide out in chronic suicidality. And my my therapist lifestyle character said.
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:46.530 Sheila Newsom: You know I think it's time for you to cry Ketamy and I all I remember about ketamine ones that I it been an aesthetic that we used in the er in my training.
00:36:46.720 --> 00:37:05.730 Sheila Newsom: especially on a pediatric, she said. There's a book called the Ketamine Papers that goes all the way through it, and it is it's photographed, and most of the icons in, and that they discuss a lot of the things. Steve will be work in my new etc.,
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.580 Sheila Newsom: so I got a basis in it.
00:37:07.630 --> 00:37:19.110 Sheila Newsom: But the thing was is that I had. I had my own experience with inter muscular and ketamine to suicideality off the table.
00:37:19.310 --> 00:37:25.490 Sheila Newsom: And so, once the dream said, it's time for you to get out here and do your own thing.
00:37:25.610 --> 00:37:44.210 Sheila Newsom: That's one thing that I would that I was pulled to. It is that I knew it had saved my life, and knew that there were not many people that were willing to risk their their license and and their license, sure to move into those spaces with something a. A. As
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:51.450 Sheila Newsom: unknown. Is this academic medication, and I've lost trends around that that I in the in the
00:37:51.690 --> 00:37:58.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: recovery community, because they think that I it has been lazy fair for my point
00:37:58.720 --> 00:38:04.140 Sheila Newsom: Now, having worked in this space for now 2 years, that some of the
00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:08.830 Sheila Newsom: things that I I've been able to to help introduce people to
00:38:08.970 --> 00:38:14.130 Sheila Newsom: have been life changing in many, many places. So that's how I got into it.
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:33.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful? Wonderful! Yeah, My wife just attended Wilson's training and upstate New York on on ketamine, and spent a whole week with doctors and psychiatrists and other therapists, and and and she said the space that they created. Just the container was so
00:38:33.500 --> 00:38:37.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful that that in and of itself, in addition to
00:38:37.100 --> 00:38:57.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: their own experience with ketamine, both large and and I am was just so profound for her. And she's, you know, now doing. Ketamine assisted psychotherapy, and she started already working with a couple of her existing clients on it, and has found it to be truly an amazing
00:38:57.180 --> 00:39:00.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: modality to help people.
00:39:00.540 --> 00:39:08.740 Sheila Newsom: And Sam, I think that's my major point around the use of the agent or any of the agencies
00:39:08.890 --> 00:39:11.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: is that there is. This.
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:19.890 Sheila Newsom: Healing has always been between individuals. Whether or not it was Shaman. Whether or not it was a position. There's a
00:39:19.990 --> 00:39:25.140 Sheila Newsom: there, there is a connection. Transference. Counter transference is what
00:39:25.300 --> 00:39:34.760 Sheila Newsom: you and Freud talked about. But the thing is, there is a container. and that's my point in working with people is that there is a consciousness
00:39:34.810 --> 00:39:42.410 Sheila Newsom: of that we can agree may occur in this exchange. That is something
00:39:43.160 --> 00:39:47.110 Sheila Newsom: helpful sacred A. And
00:39:47.210 --> 00:39:54.610 Sheila Newsom: it's the same thing that I a it. How can you explain how we have helped people to become sober
00:39:54.690 --> 00:39:59.900 Sheila Newsom: after many years of abuse with a a a spiritual remedy
00:39:59.940 --> 00:40:02.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: that's the at the basis in it.
00:40:02.870 --> 00:40:08.110 Sheila Newsom: The basis of of my work with with Academy is there is a consciousness here.
00:40:08.270 --> 00:40:11.600 Sheila Newsom: and so i'm offering that at that level
00:40:11.810 --> 00:40:20.710 Sheila Newsom: and all you you don't have to believe it right thing. Is that just the willingness to to perhaps believe.
00:40:20.720 --> 00:40:35.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yes, yes, and I I forget the gentleman's name who founded Aa. But a lot of people don't know that he founded a after having his own psychedelic experience, I think, in the fifties and the late fifties.
00:40:35.110 --> 00:40:53.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Wilson, yeah. Did his own work with Lsd. And Lsd. Had been shown to be very helpful with recidivism and outcome until it was shut down with everything else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Exactly. Exactly.
00:40:54.490 --> 00:41:02.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So. I guess the the fact that you're focusing on on Academy, now on Ptsd. And Suicidality.
00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:19.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Some of that comes from your own experience right to your own challenges with suicidality, and and seeing what a difference the kind of being made for you that now you're working with people that way. So so are are you strictly using? I am. Do you use the lozeng to do you, do I?
00:41:20.610 --> 00:41:26.290 Sheila Newsom: I? I do not. Do. Ib. I use inter muscular in.
00:41:26.420 --> 00:41:29.510 Sheila Newsom: I I think that there is important. So
00:41:29.520 --> 00:41:42.270 Sheila Newsom: there! There! There's no established protocol for any of this, the Iv stuff that once begun with with the studies, especially around that it in in my you was it
00:41:42.410 --> 00:42:10.550 Sheila Newsom: point 5 milligram per kilogram, and they they reported it side effects of this association. Well, that's what i'm looking for, because I believe, with the with intravascular injections at one milligram per kilograms, that there is a psychedelic experience that is constellated in which there is some just association between ego and self
00:42:11.170 --> 00:42:14.300 Sheila Newsom: the universe.
00:42:14.330 --> 00:42:21.970 Sheila Newsom: an association, not in consciousness, but just enough of a separation when this to determine that it's not.
00:42:23.410 --> 00:42:26.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It's not exactly that.
00:42:26.580 --> 00:42:34.860 Sheila Newsom: and so that larger self. But I think that's where the newer plasticity comes in that there are new pathways created.
00:42:34.900 --> 00:42:46.620 Sheila Newsom: and the the the hallmark is a academic experience. That's what I've found in my work there. There are some studies that that support that.
00:42:46.790 --> 00:42:52.640 Sheila Newsom: But the main thing is is that the inter muscular a. At. A certain dose provides that
00:42:52.700 --> 00:43:05.540 Sheila Newsom: I think that having a platform in which that consciousness is is constantly and created is important. So I do 3 separate treatments, and then I offer a Troj.
00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:23.240 Sheila Newsom: and slightly, and in in larger dose, in order for absorption to obtain about the same level. Have people do that for a monthly for 4 to 6 months afterwards. So
00:43:23.240 --> 00:43:28.040 Sheila Newsom: that that's that's my protocol, and
00:43:28.250 --> 00:43:33.520 Sheila Newsom: fortunately with the Rc. Recovery, who I've been
00:43:33.600 --> 00:43:45.380 Sheila Newsom: involved with, there is now becoming funded a veteran track there, or veterans with suicidality and substance use disorder.
00:43:45.560 --> 00:43:56.620 Sheila Newsom: We're putting together protocol in order to to use what i'm using. Fortunately, we're going to be able to wrap that with online university's research
00:43:57.680 --> 00:44:08.710 Sheila Newsom: and begin to do formal trials. And that's what we don't have. We Don't have the formal trials from the scientific basis in order to say, okay.
00:44:08.710 --> 00:44:21.180 Sheila Newsom: we've got double bonded trials here that since that that that suicidality and substance use to solar and long term superiority is positively in fact, affected by what we do.
00:44:21.240 --> 00:44:30.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So that that's where I am. I'm trying to connect all these pieces
00:44:30.980 --> 00:45:00.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so needed and and so ignored. Okay, it's time for us take our last break of the show. So when we come back i'd love to ask you about keeping the sole in psychedelics that the talk you gave itself by southwest, and and i'm just curious about about the films that you help to produce with. Those were about. Okay, and then we'll we'll wrap things up so everyone, please stay tuned. You're listening to the conscious consultant now awakening humanity, and if you missed any part of today's show, Don't forget you can always catch us on
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00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.530 Okay.
00:47:16.560 --> 00:47:17.460 you
00:47:26.500 --> 00:47:36.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: so, Dr. Sheila, I'm: curious. What was you talk about at South by Southwest in terms of keeping the soul in Psychedelics? What what did you talk about
00:47:36.270 --> 00:47:47.790 Sheila Newsom: it? It was not a presentation. I just had one of these stop-off rooms, I mean. I I thought it would be such a big deal. but the thing is, they are about their
00:47:47.990 --> 00:47:52.340 Sheila Newsom: a room full of people and my
00:47:52.550 --> 00:47:54.800 Sheila Newsom: premise, and this was
00:47:55.130 --> 00:48:14.880 Sheila Newsom: 2022. My premise was, is that there was something sacred in this medication that we've got to to maintain the this vision, that it's more than just medicine. There is the sacredness with this, that, in fact, that, in fact.
00:48:15.010 --> 00:48:23.050 Sheila Newsom: affect something deeper than just our conscious mind. It's the so it's that unconscious that we we've been talking about.
00:48:23.290 --> 00:48:26.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Yeah.
00:48:26.250 --> 00:48:31.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I I've heard it said that psychedelics treat melodies of the soul.
00:48:32.030 --> 00:48:32.630 Sheila Newsom: Yeah.
00:48:32.750 --> 00:48:39.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so that it's it's much more. And and my experience has been. It's much more than just
00:48:40.020 --> 00:48:44.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: a mental health healing a modality that it's
00:48:44.490 --> 00:48:58.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's really sort of a a spiritual development tool, though though the first step in really developing spiritually is undoing the trauma that we've experienced through life.
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:09.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and I know you've done a lot of work on on the Suicidality and Ptsd. How many people have you worked with over the years that you've had such wonderful results with
00:49:09.160 --> 00:49:26.260 Sheila Newsom: Well, you know, the the numbers are not, you know, I think, reflected by, I think I i'm up to the 16 range. So yeah. So you know. So 200 times I I've been in that space.
00:49:26.260 --> 00:49:30.480 Sheila Newsom: And so, to be honest with you, I've had one
00:49:30.540 --> 00:49:40.080 Sheila Newsom: on something untoward happened in that, and that was in in reflection back. It was underhydration
00:49:40.150 --> 00:49:58.310 Sheila Newsom: for all just to to have been in that. So the thing is is that, remember that ketamine was developed in Vietnam to get wounded soldiers in shock from battlefield, back to the mash in it, and so or cardiac suppression.
00:49:58.310 --> 00:50:01.220 Sheila Newsom: And so it's a safe medication to work with
00:50:01.790 --> 00:50:05.810 Sheila Newsom: as long as you do the the preparation and help
00:50:06.050 --> 00:50:21.690 Sheila Newsom: form that container in this specific way, then it's a safe medication, and the worst thing that happens it is that there there's just if there's anything on you, you can walk people through 45 min
00:50:21.710 --> 00:50:30.260 Sheila Newsom: reassurance, and that that's basically what is happened in that one time. The other 200 times have been
00:50:30.680 --> 00:50:33.480 Sheila Newsom: people awake and say.
00:50:33.570 --> 00:50:42.460 Sheila Newsom: I don't know. Something shifted there, or I heard something or voice was. There's an infinity of landscapes there in that side of the terrain.
00:50:42.670 --> 00:50:49.090 Sheila Newsom: But I think my the main thing that I've been able to do is to help people
00:50:49.410 --> 00:50:58.040 Sheila Newsom: feel reassuring, going into the space that helping them understand that there was a consciousness that was.
00:50:58.200 --> 00:51:11.670 Sheila Newsom: And and I always say, this is a loving presence that is here in this consciousness, and I I'm called it, meet us in the Goddess of Wisdom. that consciousness that love and wisdom.
00:51:11.750 --> 00:51:13.400 Sheila Newsom: and that deep.
00:51:13.710 --> 00:51:18.420 Sheila Newsom: feminine, sacred feminine is what I think under that
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:29.080 Sheila Newsom: that that's my own thing. But I offer that is a way to frame the experience, and I think that has a lot to do with the the positive effects that we've had.
00:51:31.460 --> 00:51:36.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and I know you're looking to work with veterans more. Have you worked with veterans yet?
00:51:36.740 --> 00:51:50.840 Sheila Newsom: You know I I've had a people, a a few people that are veterans. The veteran track that that is being constellated at Brc is just, and it is in Genesis at
00:51:50.880 --> 00:52:08.400 Sheila Newsom: we we will be doing that. The Department of Defense finally has said, yeah, we understand that mental health, especially around suicide. Allergy and substance use disorder is a big problem and veteran population. So there's payment for that.
00:52:08.520 --> 00:52:12.900 Sheila Newsom: And then with the
00:52:26.700 --> 00:52:28.030 Sheila Newsom: well, I
00:52:28.200 --> 00:52:32.760 Sheila Newsom: 1 one the
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:43.020 Sheila Newsom: we we got to to go and lock the carpet at the Directors Guild and and Hollywood. But it was a a film by Russell
00:52:43.130 --> 00:52:58.090 Sheila Newsom: Bush, who is now Rose Bush called Vultures of To that it was an odd constellation of of synchronist these. But I went to Tibet and did a core around that Colesh.
00:52:58.700 --> 00:53:06.640 Sheila Newsom: after retirement, came back, and I was involved with the Austin Film Society and ran into somebody at a at a mixer, and
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:19.590 Sheila Newsom: I started chatting. He had just returned from Tibet and film it. It says beautiful 20 min film on Vimeo that I would encourage people to look, but it
00:53:19.590 --> 00:53:39.330 Sheila Newsom: it involves vultures and and the the ritual the Buddhist tradition has in that part of the world is the vultures, then consume the the bones and the flourish of the the dead, and that was a a beautiful re rendition of that.
00:53:40.200 --> 00:53:50.580 Sheila Newsom: Let's see. The the second was a a picture linked film called on or true that I was involved with with the really
00:53:50.660 --> 00:54:00.500 Sheila Newsom: a talented and a director, a Tommy Roberts, and then the last one is we were beloved.
00:54:00.790 --> 00:54:05.550 Sheila Newsom: A, and that's just I. I come out
00:54:05.780 --> 00:54:11.970 Sheila Newsom: so. Anyway, I I've been involved with Austin Film Society for
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:29.040 Sheila Newsom: Gotcha Gotcha, and and so i'm curious you. You've written a calling from the bones. Is there another book in the back of your mind in the work? So
00:54:29.190 --> 00:54:35.040 Sheila Newsom: I that I wrote that actually under the name of sheila grace in the
00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:39.410 Sheila Newsom: just as I was beginning to really enter
00:54:39.460 --> 00:54:41.420 Sheila Newsom: transition fully.
00:54:41.560 --> 00:54:47.790 Sheila Newsom: So i'm now planning on doing a more in-depth work
00:54:47.900 --> 00:55:06.480 Sheila Newsom: around a lot of the depth issues, theology, depth, issues, dreams, etc., that go along with what I've been through. So i'm hopeful to frame that in a way that people can understand, but also to introduce them to other
00:55:07.120 --> 00:55:16.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: wonderful Well, you'll let me know when when that book's gonna come out we'll have you back on the show to talk all about it. Okay.
00:55:16.640 --> 00:55:21.590 Sheila Newsom: Sam. One other thing I've got to give a shout out to my
00:55:21.660 --> 00:55:25.870 Sheila Newsom: brother, my cousin and my maternal aunt.
00:55:25.950 --> 00:55:38.180 Sheila Newsom: We've been extremely helpful, and in everything that I've done, and I just. I could not have been here and and survived without those 3 people. So I just want to say.
00:55:38.180 --> 00:55:53.440 Sheila Newsom: Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful! Thank you so much, Dr. Sheila, for coming on the show today. If if anybody wants to learn more about you or get in touch with you. Would you like to give out your website, or any contact info
00:55:53.440 --> 00:56:01.640 Sheila Newsom: that the best thing it is to go to Linkedin to Sheila Grace, and you know, in M. A. And D.
00:56:01.730 --> 00:56:04.800 Sheila Newsom: Or
00:56:05.470 --> 00:56:16.700 Sheila Newsom: finding meet us if I and the I and G. ets.com is is my website, and that's the the the best way to get
00:56:16.810 --> 00:56:24.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: all right. Wonderful? Wonderful? Yeah, we'll make sure that we get that in the show notes. So people have
00:56:25.190 --> 00:56:26.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: way of finding you.
00:56:26.930 --> 00:56:45.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Dr. Sheila. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to come on my show. It's really been a pleasure and honor to to get to know you on a deeper level, and to to hear your story. I I thank you for having the courage to share, and and and for the work that you're doing so. Thank you so much.
00:56:45.890 --> 00:57:15.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and and of course thank you, my loyal listeners, for continuing to tune in and and be a part of the show without you. There is no show. So please, if you got something out of this interview, if there's something that touched you. Please share it with your friends and family. If you know someone, maybe, who's going through a a gender transition, maybe this might serve them in some way. So please share this with those people. So thank you all for tuning in. We will talk to you all
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