Frank About Health

Thursday, January 12, 2023
Facebook Live Video from 2023/01/12 - Frank About Home Care

Facebook Live Video from 2023/01/12 - Frank About Home Care


2023/01/12 - Frank About Home Care

[NEW EPISODE] Frank About Home Care

Thursdays 5:00pm - 6:00pm (EDT)



Barbara has been my dear cousin and friend to help advise me on recent care concerns involving my father's Palliative Care Needs and I know she is aware of the Medicare regulations and other needed paperwork to guarantee cost-effective healthcare for the patients her home care workers are treating.


The audience will learn from first hand experience the options needed to find the best care possible for your family member in need of home care.


Barbara is a Nurse that works with and trains nurses to be Home Care Workers. Having been a nurse her entire professional life, she has learned to apply her lessons within her own family that have gone through COVID, Cancer among other illnesses and issues. She and I will have a one on one conversation about her job and about the options available.

Tune in for this healthy conversation at

Show Notes

Segment 1

This week, Frank is joined by his cousin, Barbara Seckler. Frank recalls meeting Barbara at a family wedding reception. He also talks about recently dealing with helping his father with a regimen for his ongoing prostate cancer care. Barbara has been coaching Frank on how he can help his father. He emphasizes how learning this himself educates him more on being a healthcare advocate. When one is educated in this way to help take care of their relatives, they also learn about its benefits. Frank and Barbara talk about their fathers (who are brothers), and their overall family history with illnesses or health issues. When she graduated nursing school, Barbara went to a hospital to work for 6 months. Though she knew that this wasn't where she wanted to be. She called a home care agency to get started and has been in this work ever since then. She also talks with Frank about some benefits to recovering at home. She mentions that if you can walk from the bedroom to the bathroom and to the kitchen safely and/or with someone to take care of you, then you are better off being home than at a rehab center or hospital. Labs can go to you for lab work, it's also possible to have things like iv’s be brought into your home. All of this is possible so long as you have someone to look after you.

Segment 2

Frank brings up the different kinds of healthcare; he mentions palliative and hospice care. Barbara mentions how like homecare, palliative care for the most part can be short term because there are really active treatments being done. It's designed to keep you in your environment symptom and pain free. Hospice and homecare can also be interchangeable. She gives an example that if someone has a terminal diagnosis but isn't expected to pass away within 6 months, doctors may place this person in palliative care. With hospice care, a patient has to have a prognosis of 6 months or less and both doctors and patients have to sign documents such as giving up their rights to all treatments and more. Barbara also talks with Frank about taking care of her father along with her siblings. Her father had a variety of illnesses by the time he was 93. Some that Barabara mentioned were spinal stenosis, diabetes and also had prostate cancer throughout his life. Frank and his family show a history of being in the world of healthcare; barabara, her sisters, and mother have all been nurses. For Frank, it was him dealing with his epilepsy as well as taking care of his relatives that led him to this platform to become an advocate, supporter and resource provider to share information to others about these important topics.

Segment 3

Barabra speaks about the experience in her family when her son was diagnosed with an extremely rare cancer. This cancer she says usually grows in the abdomen or thigh of middle aged women, yet he was a 27 year old man who had ball sized tumors on his head. Luckily, her son caught it on time. Though, she mentions that he had to go through multiple surgeries. She also mentions how she used her knowledge and background to help her son. For instance, doctors at first were going to put him on a specific medication to treat tumors. Barabra looked up the medication and questioned whether he would be able to have children and how it would affect fertility. She asked a friend who was a nurse practitioner about this and that led to them talking to their friend, named Christy who worked at a surgeon's office as a nurse practitioner in dermatology. Surprisingly, this office was from her son’s first surgeon. She mentions how Christy was an incredible support for her and her son. Most recently, her son is part of a case study. Christy told Barabra how not only was this a rare disease , but she is a part of this family, she is also a nurse, and putting this story out there can help someone else. Barabra wrote a nine page article which she says is being refined and will be sent out for publication. Frank also asks her what part of this journey was the most impactful.

Segment 4

Barbara and Frank continue their conversation. Barabara talks about how this event in her life and her son’s life impacted her. Barbara shares how as a parent, when she sees her child hurt, it hurts her even more. She also brings up how her son’s relationship with his now wife grew stronger through this time. She says that it's nice to see where things are now compared to what it was like then. She also describes this time as having a lot of “unknowns”. Frank talks about helping his father treat his cancer and shares that Barbara was an inspiration source for him. With his father and his medication treatment, he mentions that there were side effects and resistance to the timor; it was expanding into another organ. He and Barabara had researched a booster known as xtandi. Barbara became his father’s “coach” guiding him to take his medication. Frank’s father is learning to live with this. As a result of the regime she worked with, Frank says that his father is much more confident in staying consistent with his treatment and medication. Barbara shares that if you have medicare and want to have a visiting nurse or therapist, you should call your doctor who will make the referral to home care. The main goal for her and other home care workers is to keep patients out of the hospital. You can get in touch with Frank at frankrharrison1 at and keep up with the latest shows on our Youtube page as well as right here on Next week’s topic will be about the Replacement Child Forum.


00:00:43.480 --> 00:00:50.449 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody, and welcome to a new episode of Frank about health. I'm here today with my cousin, Barbara Harrison Seckler.

00:00:50.590 --> 00:01:06.929 Frank R. Harrison: She and I have known each other, I would have to say most of my life, but I think we were believe it or not formally introduced at a wedding in 1 98 is that as far back as it goes to us, having more regular chats and conversations

00:01:09.740 --> 00:01:11.240 Frank R. Harrison: unmute unmute.

00:01:11.990 --> 00:01:12.660 Okay.

00:01:14.620 --> 00:01:18.170 Barbara Seckler: I remember seeing you and your sister at my sister's wedding.

00:01:18.750 --> 00:01:20.500 Barbara Seckler: but you are a little smart. Then

00:01:21.910 --> 00:01:35.259 Frank R. Harrison: I was. I was too old and cool. I was 16. I think I vaguely remember that, too. In fact, come to think of it, we were at a reception, or I remember with my sister

00:01:35.420 --> 00:01:38.180 Frank R. Harrison: I was at a reception, and

00:01:38.370 --> 00:01:42.159 Frank R. Harrison: you had. I don't know if it was you or someone that looked like you

00:01:42.350 --> 00:01:44.879 Frank R. Harrison: told my mother that we had pizza.

00:01:46.070 --> 00:01:52.390 Barbara Seckler: or maybe i'm thinking of some other event. I don't know. I just remember you, you and your sister both going.

00:01:52.580 --> 00:01:56.409 Barbara Seckler: pointing to people going. Is that my cousin is that my cousin? Is that my cousin?

00:01:56.570 --> 00:02:00.170 Barbara Seckler: My father's going? Yes, they are all your cousins.

00:02:00.290 --> 00:02:04.530 Frank R. Harrison: So, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you what today's episode is about.

00:02:04.710 --> 00:02:09.850 Frank R. Harrison: Let me explain my relationship with Barbara, and the value it's going to have for today's session.

00:02:10.030 --> 00:02:14.409 Frank R. Harrison: Basically it's called Frank about home care

00:02:14.790 --> 00:02:26.609 Frank R. Harrison: home care can be considered like assisted living, palliative care, or any of the other topics that we've discussed on Frank about health before, especially with my co-host, Phyllis Quinlan.

00:02:26.770 --> 00:02:28.510 Frank R. Harrison: But in this particular case

00:02:28.730 --> 00:02:33.939 Frank R. Harrison: I have been dealing with the last few months with my father, who is barbarous uncle

00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:41.949 Frank R. Harrison: on trying to help him in recovering with a new regimen for his ongoing prostate cancer care.

00:02:42.200 --> 00:02:46.259 Frank R. Harrison: and thanks to Barbara, who I turned to about a month and a half ago.

00:02:46.330 --> 00:02:51.300 Frank R. Harrison: She's been coaching me on the best way of helping him get into this new regiment.

00:02:51.410 --> 00:02:57.419 Frank R. Harrison: and I will be discussing the results of a recent visit with his oncologist, which proved productive.

00:02:57.490 --> 00:03:05.129 Frank R. Harrison: So that was one reason why I thought, having Barbara on the show to discuss that case would be an exempt, an example

00:03:05.500 --> 00:03:07.600 Frank R. Harrison: of how, when there is home care.

00:03:07.620 --> 00:03:26.590 Frank R. Harrison: especially by a relative versus a a professional caregiver, that you have to spend lots of money to obtain, depending on your circumstances. it shows that it's sometimes. Not only is it the most effective, but it really educates you on how to be a health care advocate of sorts.

00:03:26.600 --> 00:03:29.880 Frank R. Harrison: not just for yourself, but for the person you're taking care of

00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:39.039 Frank R. Harrison: Now Barbara and I know each other, obviously not just through family, but Her father and my father are brothers.

00:03:39.190 --> 00:03:40.589 Frank R. Harrison: and essentially

00:03:40.920 --> 00:03:46.780 Frank R. Harrison: up until about 4 or 5 years ago he was my father's last remaining sibling.

00:03:46.970 --> 00:03:53.680 Frank R. Harrison: and at that time, Barbara. I know she was involved in helping with her brothers and sisters

00:03:53.720 --> 00:03:56.340 Frank R. Harrison: on his home care which was

00:03:56.420 --> 00:04:06.740 Frank R. Harrison: needed, but at the same time, as you'll learn throughout the hour. He was pretty much, very individuated, and able to take care of himself, considering what was going on in his life at the time.

00:04:06.790 --> 00:04:09.570 Frank R. Harrison: But it does help when you have

00:04:09.620 --> 00:04:14.249 Frank R. Harrison: caregivers, who are also nurses and other medical professionals within the family.

00:04:14.570 --> 00:04:27.019 Frank R. Harrison: So we're going to talk a little bit about his his home care in addition to my father's, and I just wanted to indicate that it's just important for everyone to know out there, especially in 2023

00:04:27.250 --> 00:04:34.199 Frank R. Harrison: that we have to find out the best resources, especially when dealing with other loved ones and other home care. Related

00:04:34.300 --> 00:04:41.359 Frank R. Harrison: health care issues that a lot of us are just either not as informed, or probably need the direction and guidance to get informed.

00:04:41.850 --> 00:04:46.799 Frank R. Harrison: So Barbara and I, basically amid

00:04:46.930 --> 00:04:54.829 Frank R. Harrison: to also and get involved in understanding our family ancestry, and if you all remember, there was a show I did about a year ago

00:04:54.870 --> 00:04:57.049 Frank R. Harrison: with another cousin, Jimmy Dwyer.

00:04:57.180 --> 00:05:02.360 Frank R. Harrison: who has the Harrison Bible, and we were talking about genetic testing on that show.

00:05:02.390 --> 00:05:07.510 Frank R. Harrison: and we were also discussing about the link between DNA and health care-related issues

00:05:07.710 --> 00:05:09.980 Frank R. Harrison: Now, in my father's case

00:05:10.050 --> 00:05:12.959 Frank R. Harrison: he's dealing with cancer, which has had

00:05:13.140 --> 00:05:16.660 Frank R. Harrison: some history, and DNA especially prostate cancer.

00:05:16.880 --> 00:05:20.190 Frank R. Harrison: But in terms of Barbara's case.

00:05:20.320 --> 00:05:24.179 Frank R. Harrison: I think your father fell. There was no

00:05:24.200 --> 00:05:29.429 Frank R. Harrison: health-related issue that put him where he needed guidance or support. Towards the end was there.

00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.959 Barbara Seckler: and they had some issues that he was dealing with.

00:05:34.260 --> 00:05:38.420 Barbara Seckler: I had hypertension for probably 30 years before

00:05:38.700 --> 00:05:45.340 Barbara Seckler: everything else, but that was managed because he took all his medications. He was a good patient. He did what the doctors told him.

00:05:47.430 --> 00:05:50.050 Barbara Seckler: He also had prostate cancer.

00:05:50.100 --> 00:05:52.030 Barbara Seckler: He had an operation for it.

00:05:54.330 --> 00:05:55.640 Barbara Seckler: And

00:05:56.050 --> 00:05:57.640 Barbara Seckler: he had recovered from that

00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:58.800 Barbara Seckler: pretty quickly.

00:06:01.300 --> 00:06:07.420 Barbara Seckler: And he did have a fall at 1 point, because he he had a spinal stenosis, which is a

00:06:07.790 --> 00:06:09.650 Barbara Seckler: a narrowing of the

00:06:10.350 --> 00:06:13.960 Barbara Seckler: the canal in the spine that they all the nerves go through.

00:06:14.270 --> 00:06:18.550 Barbara Seckler: Yeah, that that kind of gets narrowed, and then it pinches on the nerves.

00:06:19.350 --> 00:06:21.669 Barbara Seckler: causes a lot of pain.

00:06:21.900 --> 00:06:26.490 Barbara Seckler: And this doctor actually said, if you live long enough, it's unusual to not have it.

00:06:27.550 --> 00:06:37.300 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, so that's why I was amazed when you told me your father was on no medications. I'm like, really.

00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:41.060 Barbara Seckler: Yeah. So because of the spinal stenosis, he did have a fall.

00:06:42.950 --> 00:06:46.920 Barbara Seckler: And in that fall he did a a disc slipped out.

00:06:47.790 --> 00:06:50.750 Barbara Seckler: So at 93 years old he had to have surgery for that

00:06:51.440 --> 00:06:56.270 Frank R. Harrison: right, and at the same time he I think he was recovering. Using a walker.

00:06:56.580 --> 00:06:58.650 Barbara Seckler: he actually

00:06:59.200 --> 00:07:02.999 Barbara Seckler: he actually went to my sister's house in Massachusetts because

00:07:03.820 --> 00:07:14.399 Barbara Seckler: my sister came down for a visit. That's when he had the fall, and he he was not steady on his feet, and she had just retired. A husband had just retired, so she said, oh, let me take him up with me for a week.

00:07:14.780 --> 00:07:20.829 Barbara Seckler: and then he just progressively got worse, and she took him to the hospital, and that's when they found out he had a slip disc, and

00:07:21.210 --> 00:07:22.489 Barbara Seckler: they said to him.

00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:27.110 Barbara Seckler: Well, you have 2 options. You could live like this for the rest of your life, or you can have surgery.

00:07:27.230 --> 00:07:36.240 Frank R. Harrison: and at 93 years old he said, Well, give me the surgery. Let's see what happens, and it's amazing. He was actually born the same day as Betty White. Right?

00:07:36.280 --> 00:07:38.290 Barbara Seckler: Yeah. Yeah, same day, same year.

00:07:38.310 --> 00:07:42.799 Frank R. Harrison: Incredible, incredible. I remember we had celebrated his ninetieth birthday

00:07:42.890 --> 00:07:44.780 Frank R. Harrison: together on that day.

00:07:45.120 --> 00:08:05.029 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, so as you can see, this episode is going to be a more familial oriented show. Hopefully, give all of you guys out there on Youtube as well as on talk radio and Nyc, an understanding of situations and circumstances as to how both Barbara and myself have been kind of caregiver advocates and supporters.

00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:19.409 Frank R. Harrison: and at the same time how she and I have been able to help each other to really work recently on my father's case, and I gather, though, Barbara, what would you want to tell? The audience is your professional background? Because I think you would obviously do much 150

00:08:19.460 --> 00:08:27.509 Frank R. Harrison: better service in, and describing your role as a nurse. I know that is your key role, but you do and handle the home care angle. So

00:08:27.650 --> 00:08:30.230 Frank R. Harrison: would you like to share what your background is there?

00:08:30.700 --> 00:08:37.390 Barbara Seckler: Well, I when I graduated nursing school, everybody said you had to have a year's hospital experience before you went into any specialty.

00:08:38.140 --> 00:08:44.099 Barbara Seckler: So I said, okay. Went to the hospital for 6 months. I hated every minute of it. I wanted to be in home care.

00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:53.780 Barbara Seckler: I have a few instances. A few run-ins with doctors, and I said, You know this is not for me. I I didn't study the last 4 years of my life to do this, and I hate it.

00:08:54.410 --> 00:08:55.330 Barbara Seckler: Sorry

00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:04.439 Barbara Seckler: called the Home Care Agency that I worked at as a student, and they took me on, and that was 1,987, and I've been in home care ever since.

00:09:05.010 --> 00:09:05.900 Frank R. Harrison: Awesome.

00:09:06.110 --> 00:09:12.870 Frank R. Harrison: So when when you are dealing in home care, you're at home, your own home, and you go to various homes.

00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:13.780 Barbara Seckler: Yeah.

00:09:14.150 --> 00:09:15.930 Barbara Seckler: yeah, I go to different homes, and it's

00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.340 Barbara Seckler: basically when I started it was

00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.560 Barbara Seckler: we would help out the hospitals, because if people were in the hospital, for one thing

00:09:26.670 --> 00:09:29.729 Barbara Seckler: like say, they had a wound, and they couldn't take care of the wound

00:09:30.510 --> 00:09:35.670 Barbara Seckler: in the past they would leave the patient in the hospital for 4 weeks, 5 weeks.

00:09:35.830 --> 00:09:37.910 Barbara Seckler: while the woman was being healed.

00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:39.070 Barbara Seckler: but

00:09:39.210 --> 00:09:42.109 Barbara Seckler: with home care they could send them home. The nurse could come out

00:09:42.420 --> 00:09:46.689 Barbara Seckler: every day every 2 days, and do the wound care, and that would keep them out of the hospital

00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:51.940 Barbara Seckler: and it's. Much more cost-efficient for us to go out and see a patient in the home than it is to even spend

00:09:51.980 --> 00:09:53.229 Barbara Seckler: a day in the er

00:09:53.950 --> 00:10:07.760 Frank R. Harrison: correct, correct, and I and I gather, even for the patient, by being out of the hospital. They're not just sitting there, being observed all the time, or just not moving around and getting their their cardio system.

00:10:08.010 --> 00:10:12.539 Frank R. Harrison: you know, to help them recover faster. Right? I mean to be home is a better option.

00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.489 Barbara Seckler: Oh, yeah, they're a 100%. Yes, exactly.

00:10:16.660 --> 00:10:22.960 Barbara Seckler: And that's what I tell people all the time when they're They're debating whether they should go to a rehab or go home.

00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:27.570 Barbara Seckler: I tell him if you could get from the bedroom to the bathroom to the kitchen

00:10:27.990 --> 00:10:32.730 Barbara Seckler: your own safely, or you have somebody to help you do those things. You're better off at home.

00:10:33.150 --> 00:10:37.779 Barbara Seckler: correct. They can get the physical therapy at home. They could get occupational therapy at home. They could get

00:10:38.260 --> 00:10:41.770 Barbara Seckler: any numbers, or, as his labs can come out and do their lab work.

00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.530 Barbara Seckler: They can get Ivs in the home they could get just about anything they could get in the hospital they could get home.

00:10:46.910 --> 00:10:49.120 Barbara Seckler: But you have to be safe in the home.

00:10:49.540 --> 00:10:52.070 Barbara Seckler: If it's somebody who can't get up and walk on their own.

00:10:52.340 --> 00:10:55.660 Barbara Seckler: Well, they, they can't be home by themselves. They need somebody with them.

00:10:56.090 --> 00:10:56.780 Frank R. Harrison: Right?

00:10:56.810 --> 00:10:57.480 Frank R. Harrison: Right?

00:10:57.730 --> 00:11:11.570 Frank R. Harrison: So throughout your entire nursing career, since 87, what had been the predominant amount of predominant type of patients. Had there been seniors? Or has it run the spectrum with children or or ends most thesis.

00:11:11.970 --> 00:11:14.550 Barbara Seckler: mostly seniors. But I've had

00:11:14.900 --> 00:11:18.100 Barbara Seckler: newborns to over 100 year old patients.

00:11:19.110 --> 00:11:21.290 Frank R. Harrison: Wow! Over a 100. Really.

00:11:21.520 --> 00:11:25.430 Barbara Seckler: Yeah. The one guy that was 106 years old, and he was still walking.

00:11:26.090 --> 00:11:31.670 Barbara Seckler: He didn't need the walker, but his daughter would get very upset if he didn't use it. So he used it to appease her

00:11:32.770 --> 00:11:41.309 Frank R. Harrison: interesting. Oh, and look. We got 2 min to break, but I did want to bring up the Walker example, I guess.

00:11:41.350 --> 00:11:58.070 Frank R. Harrison: Do you notice that the walkers, if they are become dependent on them, they can actually change your spine or your posture in any way versus like. So let's say, go to a wheelchair, or go to some Mccain, or what what do you find to be a better way of?

00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:07.990 Frank R. Harrison: Well, he could appease her, but he doesn't want to risk his mobility that he was able to do at some age. What would you think is a better option? In that case well Walkers keep you safe.

00:12:08.040 --> 00:12:11.000 Barbara Seckler: because if you're walking and you stumble. You got something to grab on to

00:12:11.740 --> 00:12:12.440 right.

00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.350 Barbara Seckler: They only affect your

00:12:14.420 --> 00:12:17.420 Barbara Seckler: posture if they are set at their incorrect height.

00:12:18.380 --> 00:12:22.500 Barbara Seckler: okay, if you have it set at the correct height, and you can use it. Then

00:12:22.680 --> 00:12:24.019 Barbara Seckler: you're better off with it.

00:12:24.820 --> 00:12:33.889 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, all right. So, ladies and gentlemen, we we will be back in a couple minutes after we listen to some other shows on the network.

00:12:33.930 --> 00:12:45.920 Frank R. Harrison: please stay tuned as i'm here with my cousin, Barbara Harrison Seckler right here on Frank about health, both on talk, radio and Nyc. And in our Youtube Channel talking alternative.

00:12:45.940 --> 00:12:48.049 Frank R. Harrison: All right. Stay tuned we back in a few.

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00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:07.339 Frank R. Harrison: welcome back. We're here with my cousin, Barbara Harrison, Secler. We were just talking a little bit about an overview of

00:15:07.460 --> 00:15:12.990 Frank R. Harrison: what it's like for her to have been in the home care space within nursing for the last.

00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:15.189 Frank R. Harrison: Wow! That's 35 years

00:15:15.530 --> 00:15:16.360 Frank R. Harrison: so far

00:15:16.950 --> 00:15:23.019 Barbara Seckler: nice a long time long time, long time. But if you know, if it's your passion, and if it's what you

00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:35.819 Frank R. Harrison: felt very close to, i'm sure for you. It may have felt, and it may have at its ups and downs. But i'm sure it may have felt like you were your best self and and best productive self and supporting people, especially that 106 year old gentleman you discussed. Yeah.

00:15:36.930 --> 00:15:48.540 Frank R. Harrison: how would you? How would you qualify home care as a as compared to palliative care, or any other kinds of long-term care that exists out there for people.

00:15:49.830 --> 00:15:51.119 Barbara Seckler: Oh,

00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:55.520 Barbara Seckler: home care is generally short-term

00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.900 Barbara Seckler: for the most part

00:15:59.550 --> 00:16:01.110 Barbara Seckler: palliative care

00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:06.790 Barbara Seckler: for the most part can be short-term, too, because palliative care is really just symptom control.

00:16:07.170 --> 00:16:11.519 Barbara Seckler: You're not really doing any active treatments

00:16:11.880 --> 00:16:16.600 Barbara Seckler: and that's typically for for patients with terminal cancer that are just tired of

00:16:16.680 --> 00:16:20.019 Barbara Seckler: being in the hospital or going to

00:16:20.470 --> 00:16:22.510 Barbara Seckler: for treatments and tests.

00:16:22.770 --> 00:16:26.360 Barbara Seckler: Palliative care is more designed to keep you

00:16:27.260 --> 00:16:30.479 Barbara Seckler: in your environment, whether it's inpatient or home.

00:16:30.770 --> 00:16:33.760 Barbara Seckler: Keep you in your environment. Keep you safe and keep your pain free

00:16:34.150 --> 00:16:35.399 Barbara Seckler: and symptoms free.

00:16:35.680 --> 00:16:36.640 Right.

00:16:36.850 --> 00:16:44.669 Frank R. Harrison: And then I guess if they know that it is more terminal, then they would recommend hospice care, which is yeah, another level of palliative care. Right?

00:16:44.850 --> 00:16:49.830 Barbara Seckler: Yeah, hospice care, at least from my perspective and home care.

00:16:50.890 --> 00:16:54.680 Barbara Seckler: hospice care and palliative care can be a little bit interchangeable.

00:16:55.040 --> 00:17:02.510 Barbara Seckler: in fact, if I have somebody that has a terminal diagnosis, but they are not expected to pass away for

00:17:04.810 --> 00:17:09.440 Barbara Seckler: within 6 months. They may put them on palliative care, which is basically Hospice care.

00:17:10.510 --> 00:17:13.739 Barbara Seckler: without signing the Hospice Declaration

00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.149 Barbara Seckler: in order to get home care. Hospice, you have to be.

00:17:17.540 --> 00:17:20.210 Barbara Seckler: I have a prognosis of 6 months or less.

00:17:20.430 --> 00:17:28.389 Barbara Seckler: and a doctor has to sign has to be willing to sign that, and the patient has to be willing to sign that as well. So the patient knows that they are going to die.

00:17:28.830 --> 00:17:33.869 Barbara Seckler: They know that they want to be at home. They want to be around the family, and they want to be.

00:17:34.610 --> 00:17:40.210 Barbara Seckler: They give up the rights to all treatments, All kind of chemo. Anything like that.

00:17:40.540 --> 00:17:41.320 Frank R. Harrison: Hmm.

00:17:41.890 --> 00:17:42.910 Frank R. Harrison: Interesting.

00:17:43.230 --> 00:17:54.329 Frank R. Harrison: Wow! I mean that definitely. There's more breakdown than I realized. I gather it really is a person by person, basis, or illness by illness, basis that makes the determination as to the appropriate care.

00:17:54.340 --> 00:18:03.929 Frank R. Harrison: But from where you're sitting home. Care is definitely for those that may have just undergone a trauma or a surgical procedure or something, and there is a period of time, a window

00:18:03.950 --> 00:18:07.859 Frank R. Harrison: where they can become rehabilitated within their home, and therefore

00:18:08.030 --> 00:18:10.590 Frank R. Harrison: pick up where they left off. Correct. That's the goal.

00:18:10.760 --> 00:18:11.970 Barbara Seckler: Yeah, okay.

00:18:12.290 --> 00:18:24.979 Frank R. Harrison: that's good to know. Oh, by the way, I forgot to issue my disclaimer. Ladies and gentlemen, the news, the information and views being shared today on home care, are not the views of Frank Frank about health

00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:29.510 Frank R. Harrison: or talk radio, Nyc. But rather information and food for thought.

00:18:29.670 --> 00:18:38.889 Frank R. Harrison: that you could use to determine if it applies to any needs or resources you're seeking, of course, do not make any changes in your ongoing

00:18:38.900 --> 00:18:55.899 Frank R. Harrison: treatment, care, treatment, plans with your primary care, physician, or whatever medicines you are taking do not make any changes based on the information you hear on tonight's program unless you first consult your doctor and share what your concerns are, and if we have added value

00:18:55.910 --> 00:19:10.729 Frank R. Harrison: to whatever you're looking for, by all means i'm glad to have put my support in the ring for that, but not. There are no means for the information that we share tonight to be taken as gospel, and therefore just understand it's food for thought

00:19:11.190 --> 00:19:19.090 Frank R. Harrison: all right, that all being said, let's get back to I guess. Let's just start with your father. I mean, that was your most recent experience at

00:19:19.170 --> 00:19:27.769 Frank R. Harrison: being a caregiver the job that you do, but especially for your father for a good. What 2 years prior to his passing?

00:19:28.330 --> 00:19:29.910 Frank R. Harrison: Or is it longer than that?

00:19:31.470 --> 00:19:36.479 Barbara Seckler: Well, I was. I was kind of involved with taking him to his treatments and everything. Once he came back from

00:19:36.840 --> 00:19:38.709 Barbara Seckler: Massachusetts he was 93

00:19:39.260 --> 00:19:42.420 Barbara Seckler: At that point he wasn't driving any more.

00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:46.460 Barbara Seckler: so I would take him to his doctor's appointments.

00:19:47.550 --> 00:19:56.890 Barbara Seckler: which were pretty frequent at that point. She had a cardiologist, a regular medical doctor and I, doctor. He was also borderline diabetic.

00:19:57.050 --> 00:19:58.940 Barbara Seckler: so he had a he had a lot going on.

00:20:00.050 --> 00:20:01.460 Frank R. Harrison: Okay.

00:20:01.670 --> 00:20:03.140 Barbara Seckler: So I got. I kind of

00:20:03.430 --> 00:20:05.250 Barbara Seckler: took over that role.

00:20:05.610 --> 00:20:09.279 Barbara Seckler: Yeah, I like to say I was a the medical translator.

00:20:09.860 --> 00:20:16.999 Frank R. Harrison: But at the same time you are. You come from one of 7 brothers and sisters. Right?

00:20:17.270 --> 00:20:18.030 Yes.

00:20:19.030 --> 00:20:20.380 Frank R. Harrison: okay. So

00:20:20.910 --> 00:20:36.370 Frank R. Harrison: are like you and your other sisters also nurses? Or is are you the like? The quote unquote head nurse in the family. Well, there's My sister Ruth actually has her doctor in nursing, and she was teaching nursing at colleges before she retired.

00:20:36.800 --> 00:20:40.170 Barbara Seckler: my sister Miriam was a nurse.

00:20:40.820 --> 00:20:43.050 Barbara Seckler: and she was working with

00:20:43.540 --> 00:20:44.580 Barbara Seckler: Workman's comp

00:20:45.150 --> 00:20:49.879 Barbara Seckler: kind of like a desk job she did home care for a number of years, and then she went to Workman's call.

00:20:50.090 --> 00:20:51.510 Barbara Seckler: and she just retired.

00:20:52.180 --> 00:20:53.840 Barbara Seckler: And then there's there's me

00:20:54.770 --> 00:20:56.669 Barbara Seckler: and our our mother was a nurse as well

00:20:57.790 --> 00:20:59.090 Barbara Seckler: incredible.

00:20:59.150 --> 00:21:02.849 Barbara Seckler: and my our other sister is a teacher.

00:21:04.020 --> 00:21:05.470 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, yes.

00:21:05.650 --> 00:21:16.539 Frank R. Harrison: incredible, incredible. I I mean I get. I guess I always knew that health care was in my DNA. No, i'm not a doctor or a nurse, or a technician, or whatever. But

00:21:16.670 --> 00:21:20.599 Frank R. Harrison: with all the health care-related illnesses that I have experienced myself.

00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:28.529 Frank R. Harrison: or even what I've been witnessing through My father and my mother and I have other cousins on my mother's side that i'm dealing with.

00:21:28.660 --> 00:21:40.139 Frank R. Harrison: I think I just fell into it. And this show is, I guess, my biggest platform in terms of discussing these issues. I think I told you that this show originally began because of my history with epilepsy.

00:21:40.360 --> 00:21:49.690 Frank R. Harrison: In fact, I was going to call the show back in 2,016, Frank about epilepsy, but it was still such a stigma at that time that I just said No, let's just say, Frank, about health, and

00:21:49.700 --> 00:22:09.289 Frank R. Harrison: go from there and then. Of course, we face the worldwide pandemic the last 3 years, and that was an interesting time also in trying to monitor what was going on with my parents while he's taking medications for cancer. I don't need him getting the Covid virus because he would be one of the yeah at the time, with No, no vaccines and no tests and nothing.

00:22:09.300 --> 00:22:23.570 Frank R. Harrison: Who is to say that you know his immune system was already compromised with whatever medications he's taking that that could have led to any infection, and even asymptomatic, could have been a death sentence. But we were very, very blessed and very lucky that

00:22:23.690 --> 00:22:26.170 Frank R. Harrison: he did get it asymptomatically, but it

00:22:26.490 --> 00:22:29.759 Frank R. Harrison: didn't face him, you know.

00:22:30.010 --> 00:22:36.080 Frank R. Harrison: and it's just that I came back with this show post coat or during Covid. And and now

00:22:36.110 --> 00:22:48.440 Frank R. Harrison: continuing because of the fact that I just found myself falling into being a supporter, advocate resource provider and trying to really share the information that's out there for a lot of people in needy situations.

00:22:48.560 --> 00:22:49.370 Frank R. Harrison: But

00:22:49.740 --> 00:22:56.029 Frank R. Harrison: when I remember hearing about your father's passing, and then you and your brothers telling me.

00:22:56.050 --> 00:23:13.209 Frank R. Harrison: especially during the during the wake, back in 2,018 about how you and all your brothers and sisters worked like a team, a cadre of sorts of being able to just really take care of your father's laundry needs Shopping needs health needs other kinds of needs.

00:23:13.450 --> 00:23:21.220 Frank R. Harrison: Can you explain for me, even even though we're family. I didn't grow up with you guys. So it's very interesting to understand how

00:23:21.740 --> 00:23:30.780 Frank R. Harrison: you all work together like like almost a team, an army that was able to help with your debt. Can you explain to me how that was all

00:23:31.560 --> 00:23:33.670 Frank R. Harrison: instructed by your mom and dad?

00:23:34.580 --> 00:23:37.789 Barbara Seckler: It's just something that we kind of fell into like

00:23:38.630 --> 00:23:41.179 Barbara Seckler: after my mother passed away.

00:23:41.730 --> 00:23:47.820 Barbara Seckler: We asked my father in. We try. Everybody tried to get him to move near us, but he liked his house.

00:23:48.080 --> 00:23:50.200 Barbara Seckler: because at that time he was still driving.

00:23:50.310 --> 00:24:00.259 Barbara Seckler: he was a mile from the church. He he was very active in his church. He was a mile, maybe 2 or 3 miles from the cemetery. He used to go to the cemetery

00:24:00.300 --> 00:24:03.299 Barbara Seckler: once a week just to sit by. My mother's breath

00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.070 Barbara Seckler: and

00:24:06.510 --> 00:24:08.450 Barbara Seckler: he didn't want to break up that routine.

00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:11.180 Barbara Seckler: So

00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:20.689 Barbara Seckler: he said the only thing he wanted was he wanted someone to call him in the morning, and someone to call him in the evening, because if he fell down during the day he didn't want people to find him 3 weeks later.

00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:30.399 Barbara Seckler: yes, so I called them every morning at 7 30, because i'm a morning person. My sister called them every evening around dinner time, and we would just check in with them.

00:24:30.550 --> 00:24:39.779 Barbara Seckler: And then, as his needs came up, he would say, oh, I need this, and if he needed anything done with the house, he'd call my brother David because

00:24:39.980 --> 00:24:45.030 Barbara Seckler: he was of the generation that women didn't fix things around the house. That was the man's job.

00:24:45.350 --> 00:24:46.579 Barbara Seckler: and

00:24:48.200 --> 00:25:02.049 Barbara Seckler: it just kind of we kind of fell into the roles. you know my brother would stop by one day. Ask him what they needed. Oh, I need this at the supermarket. I need that, he he started out by taking him shopping, but then he eventually just kind of took over the the

00:25:02.120 --> 00:25:03.840 Barbara Seckler: role of food shopper and

00:25:04.410 --> 00:25:09.059 Barbara Seckler: happened to ask him. My father happened to say, oh, I have some laundry that needs to be done.

00:25:09.470 --> 00:25:13.360 Barbara Seckler: But he couldn't go up and down the stairs, and the washer and dryer were downstairs. So

00:25:13.510 --> 00:25:18.360 Barbara Seckler: David said, oh, i'll just take that home, you know, and they got into the routine where he would take his laundry home.

00:25:19.080 --> 00:25:25.619 Barbara Seckler: He would go do the food shopping for the week. Then take the laundry, bring it home, and bring it back clean, and take the next set of laundry, and

00:25:25.800 --> 00:25:28.040 Barbara Seckler: just alternated with that, and

00:25:28.690 --> 00:25:30.540 Barbara Seckler: being a nurse, I was the one that

00:25:31.420 --> 00:25:33.940 Barbara Seckler: was taking him to his medical appointments, and

00:25:34.460 --> 00:25:41.640 Barbara Seckler: my other sister would drop off food every so often, just you know. Cook a few extra meals and throw them in the freezer, and then drop them off to him.

00:25:42.050 --> 00:25:46.670 Barbara Seckler: Yes, so it just kind of worked out. We all we all get along, so we all

00:25:46.800 --> 00:25:48.429 Barbara Seckler: did whatever we could, my

00:25:48.870 --> 00:25:55.790 Barbara Seckler: sisters, who were out of state, you know they would come and stay with them for a few weeks and say, okay, you know, i'll take over for the week. You don't have to do anything

00:25:56.420 --> 00:26:00.249 Barbara Seckler: that's just gonna just kind of all work out because we all

00:26:00.390 --> 00:26:03.269 Barbara Seckler: we've had our moments. But we all get along, and we all

00:26:03.890 --> 00:26:05.210 Barbara Seckler: look after each other.

00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:10.290 Frank R. Harrison: That is perfect. I'm really glad i'm really glad about that.

00:26:10.500 --> 00:26:13.360 Barbara Seckler: When my son got cancer.

00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:17.530 Barbara Seckler: That was the the first thing, like everybody kind of met, and

00:26:19.120 --> 00:26:23.970 Barbara Seckler: to see what they could do, and my brother-in-law actually came up with this idea that

00:26:25.540 --> 00:26:32.139 Barbara Seckler: everybody picked a day, and somebody would send something to him on Amazon. So every day he'd go out to the front door and there be a package there

00:26:32.320 --> 00:26:35.180 Barbara Seckler: like a a little. Pick me up.

00:26:35.210 --> 00:26:36.979 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, yes.

00:26:37.120 --> 00:26:39.120 Frank R. Harrison: that is nice. That is nice.

00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:46.480 Frank R. Harrison: Well, now we're headed for a break. But now that you brought up your son, I definitely want to talk a little bit more about that when we return, because

00:26:46.510 --> 00:26:49.360 Frank R. Harrison: it's a cancer issue, which is what eventually led

00:26:49.500 --> 00:27:00.700 Frank R. Harrison: us to coordinate, especially when my father was going through some difficult times recently. So when we return right here. On this episode of Frank about health, both Barbara and I will get back to discuss further

00:27:00.800 --> 00:27:06.640 Frank R. Harrison: the importance of home care, especially the importance of family, and really doing what they can to help

00:27:06.740 --> 00:27:12.730 Frank R. Harrison: their loved one, and know for sure that the quality of life of their loved one will be enhanced because it is family

00:27:12.790 --> 00:27:17.799 Frank R. Harrison: that is coordinating those efforts. Okay. So please stay tuned right here on talk radio and Nyc.

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00:29:20.460 --> 00:29:24.609 Frank R. Harrison: welcome back. We're here, Barbara and I to talk about home care

00:29:24.660 --> 00:29:28.050 Frank R. Harrison: on this episode of Frank about health before we went to the break.

00:29:28.180 --> 00:29:33.859 Frank R. Harrison: She touched upon her son's recent experience with cancer, which I understand he's cancer-free, now? Right

00:29:34.210 --> 00:29:36.149 Barbara Seckler: Yes, thankfully.

00:29:36.220 --> 00:29:36.970 Frank R. Harrison: Thank you.

00:29:37.300 --> 00:29:48.659 Frank R. Harrison: You want to share yeah, and what that was like, not from not just a home care experience, but also you being a nurse, knowing exactly how to find whatever urgent care that he needed.

00:29:49.000 --> 00:30:04.059 Barbara Seckler: Yeah, it was a a kind of a freak thing. it happened right before Covid it December of 1,92020 or 2,019. Yeah, his girlfriend

00:30:05.050 --> 00:30:13.310 Barbara Seckler: They They were goofing around, and she hit him in the head, and he kind of reacted a little severely, and she said, oh, don't be such a baby! And she went to rub his head, and she's like

00:30:13.450 --> 00:30:14.980 Barbara Seckler: You've got a lump on your head.

00:30:15.520 --> 00:30:17.120 Barbara Seckler: And he said, yeah, it hurts

00:30:17.590 --> 00:30:25.270 Barbara Seckler: so. He's very much like my father. He went to the doctor right away. The doctor sent him to a specialist. He lives in Maryland, a specialist in Annapolis.

00:30:25.610 --> 00:30:27.979 Barbara Seckler: and he told me about that, and I thought, Well, that's a little

00:30:28.280 --> 00:30:33.309 Barbara Seckler: overkill. You know what what could grow on your head. It can't be anything. It's probably just a

00:30:33.470 --> 00:30:36.300 Barbara Seckler: a Sebastian or something very minor.

00:30:36.890 --> 00:30:37.800 Barbara Seckler: Well, they

00:30:38.530 --> 00:30:43.030 Barbara Seckler: The appointment with the specialist was scheduled for March twentieth of 2,020,

00:30:43.810 --> 00:30:46.270 Frank R. Harrison: and that's why I'm getting close to them down.

00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:47.720 Barbara Seckler: Yeah. So

00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:52.759 Barbara Seckler: that appointment kept getting postponed and postponed, and finally, in July he went.

00:30:53.180 --> 00:30:54.360 Barbara Seckler: And

00:30:54.900 --> 00:31:00.540 Barbara Seckler: He said, he's laying on the the table, and the doctor is cutting his head open to get out this lump, and

00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:03.859 Barbara Seckler: he hears the doctor go. Oh, I didn't expect to see that.

00:31:04.700 --> 00:31:05.870 Barbara Seckler: And then

00:31:06.730 --> 00:31:12.510 Barbara Seckler: the doctor got very serious with him, a very young doctor, but he got very serious with him right in the face, and he said.

00:31:12.760 --> 00:31:17.690 Barbara Seckler: I think you have cancer, he said. I have to send this out for a test, but it's.

00:31:17.790 --> 00:31:21.359 Barbara Seckler: It looks like cancer. To me it looks like 2 different types of cancer.

00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:23.360 Barbara Seckler: So

00:31:23.750 --> 00:31:28.040 Barbara Seckler: he sent a tumor out for analysis, and it turned out to be one type of cancer.

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.700 Barbara Seckler: But it was an extremely rare type.

00:31:32.660 --> 00:31:41.030 Barbara Seckler: usually grows in the abdomen or the thigh of middle-aged women and he was a 27 year, old man, and had 2 golf bowl sized tumors on the top of his head.

00:31:42.600 --> 00:31:45.499 Frank R. Harrison: So were they embedded in the skin, or was it in the brain.

00:31:45.730 --> 00:31:49.250 Barbara Seckler: It was between the skull and the skin.

00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:51.629 Barbara Seckler: so it it didn't

00:31:51.760 --> 00:31:57.240 Barbara Seckler: it was left. It could have eventually worked its way down into the the bone and into the brain.

00:31:57.550 --> 00:32:04.159 Barbara Seckler: but they got it in time, and these tumors broke Grow like a spider. They have like a centralized body, and then they send out tentacles.

00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.190 Barbara Seckler: so he had to go through 13 surgeries where they

00:32:08.290 --> 00:32:10.160 Barbara Seckler: they basically they remove

00:32:10.620 --> 00:32:13.980 Barbara Seckler: all that they could see that looked cancerous.

00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.910 Barbara Seckler: Then they remove a little bit more and send that out for testing.

00:32:18.310 --> 00:32:23.829 Barbara Seckler: And if the testing came back that they found even one cancer cell, they'd have to go back and do repeat the procedure.

00:32:24.370 --> 00:32:26.450 Barbara Seckler: and they had to do that 13 times.

00:32:27.890 --> 00:32:30.359 Barbara Seckler: So they they finally did get it all.

00:32:30.590 --> 00:32:33.859 Barbara Seckler: But then he was left with this giant open wound on the top of his scale.

00:32:36.130 --> 00:32:40.909 Barbara Seckler: And the doctors it. It was the University of Maryland at Baltimore.

00:32:43.350 --> 00:32:48.499 Barbara Seckler: They were pretty innovative, because the usual reconstruction, for something like this is pretty.

00:32:49.890 --> 00:32:54.570 Barbara Seckler: It's pretty gruesome, and you end up looking pretty deformed.

00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.289 Barbara Seckler: but they tried a little known procedure that they usually use for small wounds

00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:00.990 Barbara Seckler: and

00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:08.119 Barbara Seckler: basically what they did like. If you picture male pattern boldness where those men have no hair, he had no skin.

00:33:08.990 --> 00:33:10.930 Barbara Seckler: so they basically, kind of

00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:13.920 Barbara Seckler: over time pulled the edges of the skin together.

00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:15.850 Barbara Seckler: And

00:33:18.230 --> 00:33:22.720 Barbara Seckler: he's got a like a pretty thick scar that runs down the center of his head.

00:33:23.380 --> 00:33:28.380 Barbara Seckler: but because he has what we call Harrison hair, which is very thick, coarse hair

00:33:28.600 --> 00:33:32.979 Barbara Seckler: to look at him now you wouldn't know he's got a very full head of hair.

00:33:33.050 --> 00:33:37.440 Barbara Seckler: and in fact, his oncologist is bold, and every time we go for the appointments

00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.959 Frank R. Harrison: he just shakes his head, and he goes. I'm so jealous. Oh, well.

00:33:44.050 --> 00:33:54.449 Frank R. Harrison: but I mean, after all of that I mean it sounds like they had some specialized laser technique or whatever to be able to put everything together so and get right there it wasn't even a laser. It was just

00:33:54.890 --> 00:33:58.140 Barbara Seckler: basically they put hooks around his scalp around the opening.

00:33:58.620 --> 00:34:05.910 Barbara Seckler: They laced it up with this device, and they had a little crank, and every 2 weeks they would go in and crank it up, and it basically, had a facelift

00:34:05.990 --> 00:34:08.769 Barbara Seckler: because they would crank it up, and that would pull the skin together.

00:34:09.090 --> 00:34:12.089 Barbara Seckler: and that would ease after a while, and then

00:34:12.909 --> 00:34:16.849 Barbara Seckler: they would do it again every 2 weeks he would go for that treatment until

00:34:17.489 --> 00:34:19.889 Barbara Seckler: I think it only took about 6 weeks to close up.

00:34:20.830 --> 00:34:21.919 Frank R. Harrison: Incredible.

00:34:22.010 --> 00:34:27.809 Frank R. Harrison: But aside from all that part of it that's post. After they removed all the cancerous cells.

00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.050 Frank R. Harrison: Was he undergoing during the surgery piece of it.

00:34:32.190 --> 00:34:39.280 Frank R. Harrison: things like chemotherapy or radiation, or any any side effects from treatments, or taking any other kinds of

00:34:39.340 --> 00:34:42.339 Frank R. Harrison: medications that really made it a rough road frame.

00:34:43.120 --> 00:34:49.849 Barbara Seckler: No, it was rough enough with just the surgeries. But the initial doctor said that they they may do

00:34:51.659 --> 00:34:55.940 Barbara Seckler: They may put them on this medication called Gleev. That's how they usually treat these tumors.

00:34:56.610 --> 00:35:00.360 Barbara Seckler: So I right away go and look up the medication, and

00:35:01.070 --> 00:35:06.689 Barbara Seckler: because he was 27 years old, just got together with who is his now wife.

00:35:08.750 --> 00:35:13.199 Barbara Seckler: I was thinking, what's that going to do to his fertility? Is he going to be able to have children?

00:35:14.690 --> 00:35:16.210 Barbara Seckler: And I have a friend.

00:35:17.180 --> 00:35:21.320 Barbara Seckler: It's on how small a world it is. I have a friend who lives in Boston

00:35:21.390 --> 00:35:24.829 Barbara Seckler: who used to be a nurse practitioner and oncology.

00:35:25.370 --> 00:35:27.510 Barbara Seckler: so I asked her about it, and she said.

00:35:27.720 --> 00:35:30.960 Barbara Seckler: Oh, i'm not familiar with that medication. But I have a friend

00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.710 Barbara Seckler: who is a nurse practitioner in dermatology.

00:35:34.380 --> 00:35:37.830 Barbara Seckler: and she works in Annapolis. Let me put you in touch with her.

00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:42.160 Barbara Seckler: So she puts me in touch with this woman Christine, who actually works in

00:35:42.260 --> 00:35:46.410 Barbara Seckler: Nick's first surgeon's office. She works for another doctor. But in that office

00:35:47.090 --> 00:35:47.799 Frank R. Harrison: Hmm.

00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:50.739 Barbara Seckler: So that that just blew my mind, because

00:35:50.790 --> 00:36:00.530 Barbara Seckler: here i'm in New Jersey, talking to my friend in Boston, who has a friend who works in next office next Doctor's office. He's like a zigzag

00:36:02.790 --> 00:36:06.289 Barbara Seckler: but it turns out he did. He didn't need it. But that that

00:36:06.680 --> 00:36:11.090 Barbara Seckler: friend of my my friend Maylene, who lives in Boston, her friend Christie.

00:36:11.550 --> 00:36:17.059 Barbara Seckler: was an incredible source of support for me, because she kept checking in on Nick and

00:36:18.790 --> 00:36:24.330 Barbara Seckler: going through this. The pictures were pretty gruesome. But yeah, we take pictures after every surgery.

00:36:25.090 --> 00:36:28.709 Barbara Seckler: and nobody wanted to see them. I had my my supervisor at work.

00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:31.460 Barbara Seckler: would look at them and send them to our wound. Nurse

00:36:31.630 --> 00:36:33.550 Barbara Seckler: and this Christy.

00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.990 Barbara Seckler: like nobody else, wanted to see them. My husband hasn't even seen them

00:36:38.540 --> 00:36:41.349 Barbara Seckler: And Nick himself Hasn't even seen them.

00:36:42.060 --> 00:36:44.470 Barbara Seckler: But between

00:36:44.640 --> 00:36:49.349 Frank R. Harrison: stick with what he sees now versus what? What?

00:36:49.710 --> 00:36:52.849 Barbara Seckler: But it was just. A very few people have seen these pictures, but

00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:58.080 Barbara Seckler: The doctors are actually he's part of a They're writing up a case. Study on him.

00:36:58.170 --> 00:37:00.560 Barbara Seckler: this woman, Christie.

00:37:00.810 --> 00:37:03.209 Barbara Seckler: who may lean, put me in touch with.

00:37:03.640 --> 00:37:07.750 Barbara Seckler: She emails me one day, and she said, I I think you have a responsibility

00:37:07.930 --> 00:37:08.890 Barbara Seckler: now.

00:37:09.140 --> 00:37:13.690 Barbara Seckler: because she specializes in rare diseases she goes. Not only is this a rare disease.

00:37:14.210 --> 00:37:14.939 Barbara Seckler: but

00:37:15.140 --> 00:37:18.850 Barbara Seckler: you are a family member of somebody who has a rare disease. You are a nurse.

00:37:19.460 --> 00:37:25.950 Barbara Seckler: and you need to put your story out there so it could help somebody else at some point. So

00:37:26.150 --> 00:37:29.310 Barbara Seckler: right together with my sister Ruth. I'm.

00:37:29.810 --> 00:37:33.169 Barbara Seckler: I actually wrote a 9 page article on it, and she is helping me to

00:37:33.310 --> 00:37:37.320 Barbara Seckler: kind of refine it. And then we're going to send it out for publication.

00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:48.570 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, absolutely so, is it, I guess. In both cases we're talking about the the type of cancer he had, as well as the type of reconstructive procedures on his scalp.

00:37:49.030 --> 00:37:54.750 Frank R. Harrison: They they were both innovative. Which do you think for yourself, was the most impactful.

00:37:54.850 --> 00:37:57.089 Frank R. Harrison: the actual disease, or

00:37:57.260 --> 00:37:58.540 Frank R. Harrison: the treatment of it.

00:37:59.870 --> 00:38:09.420 Barbara Seckler: it's hard to say, because they were both like when you, as you. It's easy to look back now and say, okay, everything's good. But at the time

00:38:09.630 --> 00:38:10.740 Barbara Seckler: we didn't know.

00:38:11.190 --> 00:38:18.429 Barbara Seckler: and i'm thinking of the future like I said i'm worried about his ability to have children if they're going to be putting them on this chemo.

00:38:18.860 --> 00:38:21.120 Barbara Seckler: so i'm looking into that avenue.

00:38:21.450 --> 00:38:22.439 Barbara Seckler: And

00:38:25.490 --> 00:38:30.220 Barbara Seckler: I've had several discussions with his wife, his now wife, Liz.

00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:38.020 Barbara Seckler: and she said, oh, we're neither one of us are married to the the idea that we have to have our biological children we could adopt.

00:38:38.100 --> 00:38:41.640 Barbara Seckler: and we'd be happy with that, you know they just want to have children, but as it turns out.

00:38:42.610 --> 00:38:44.279 Barbara Seckler: they can so

00:38:44.700 --> 00:38:45.929 Frank R. Harrison: good good.

00:38:46.130 --> 00:38:49.689 Barbara Seckler: But at the time when you're you're going through that all these things are going through your mind.

00:38:50.310 --> 00:39:00.900 Barbara Seckler: I can imagine. So what was the actual cancer diagnosis? Was it a skin cancer, or was it something else. It was a sarcoma which is a cancer of a connective tissue.

00:39:01.740 --> 00:39:05.180 Barbara Seckler: which, if it was untreated, could spread throughout his body.

00:39:05.820 --> 00:39:09.680 Frank R. Harrison: and therefore it could become prostate cancer.

00:39:09.700 --> 00:39:11.259 Frank R. Harrison: pancreatic, cancer.

00:39:11.350 --> 00:39:14.249 Frank R. Harrison: liver, cancer, whatever, if it's spread throughout his.

00:39:14.310 --> 00:39:18.399 Barbara Seckler: This particular cancer likes to lodge itself in the lungs

00:39:19.790 --> 00:39:23.099 Barbara Seckler: like when it spreads it goes right to the lung.

00:39:23.670 --> 00:39:25.700 Barbara Seckler: It didn't do that with him, fortunately.

00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.040 Barbara Seckler: thankfully. Yes.

00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:39.819 Frank R. Harrison: well, and you know when I, when I heard about this, or rather my father heard about it first, and I think it was through a posting you placed on Facebook, and he came to me.

00:39:40.180 --> 00:39:41.209 Frank R. Harrison: and

00:39:41.330 --> 00:39:42.350 Frank R. Harrison: he said

00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:47.649 Frank R. Harrison: I would like to speak to Barbara, but I had learned in Harrison. Speak.

00:39:47.890 --> 00:39:53.959 Frank R. Harrison: please, contact Barbara.

00:39:54.180 --> 00:39:58.310 Frank R. Harrison: That's all we did, and you were. It was literally like destiny that

00:39:58.790 --> 00:40:01.439 Frank R. Harrison: he, My father had seen that at the time

00:40:01.560 --> 00:40:03.049 Frank R. Harrison: when he was now

00:40:03.540 --> 00:40:04.629 Frank R. Harrison: watching

00:40:04.750 --> 00:40:09.300 Frank R. Harrison: an increase in side effects from an ongoing cancer treatment

00:40:09.350 --> 00:40:10.319 Frank R. Harrison: medicine

00:40:10.420 --> 00:40:11.790 Frank R. Harrison: that he was taking

00:40:12.020 --> 00:40:13.500 Frank R. Harrison: called Orgovix.

00:40:13.780 --> 00:40:15.489 Frank R. Harrison: that had already been

00:40:15.750 --> 00:40:18.590 Frank R. Harrison: shrinking the prostate cancer tumor

00:40:19.230 --> 00:40:24.129 Frank R. Harrison: significantly. But then there was also a period of time where he reduced the

00:40:24.200 --> 00:40:28.050 Frank R. Harrison: the amount of the prescription, which I don't think was advised; but

00:40:28.640 --> 00:40:39.810 Frank R. Harrison: I gather he presumed that since it was working that it was like it's going to be cured. Sorry, especially at a certain age. I think you'll learn to live with it rather than look for the cure. Yeah. So

00:40:39.970 --> 00:40:42.209 Frank R. Harrison: then came the search

00:40:42.290 --> 00:40:46.169 Frank R. Harrison: for a new treatment, or whether or not

00:40:46.190 --> 00:40:50.469 Frank R. Harrison: there was no more treatment we were we were going through the uncertainty

00:40:50.520 --> 00:40:51.500 Frank R. Harrison: of.

00:40:51.570 --> 00:40:53.880 Frank R. Harrison: Does this mean that he's no longer

00:40:53.950 --> 00:40:56.169 Frank R. Harrison: tolerating the medication that

00:40:56.380 --> 00:41:01.380 Frank R. Harrison: we have to now prepare for the events that you had to prepare for your father.

00:41:01.690 --> 00:41:08.889 Frank R. Harrison: my uncle, my my father's brother, you know Edward Harrison and Frank Harrison, my father, your father.

00:41:09.350 --> 00:41:10.279 Frank R. Harrison: Now

00:41:10.370 --> 00:41:16.399 Frank R. Harrison: the thing is is, while that was traumatic in its own way for me and my mother and other members of the family.

00:41:16.460 --> 00:41:19.249 Frank R. Harrison: The issue that I found very interesting was.

00:41:20.490 --> 00:41:23.189 Frank R. Harrison: we were about to go for an update

00:41:23.340 --> 00:41:25.340 Frank R. Harrison: for the Psa test.

00:41:25.410 --> 00:41:26.410 Frank R. Harrison: and

00:41:26.630 --> 00:41:31.749 Frank R. Harrison: we're about to find out that his cancer may have extended into the bladder.

00:41:31.930 --> 00:41:33.419 Frank R. Harrison: How do we find this out?

00:41:33.680 --> 00:41:36.800 Frank R. Harrison: He gives a urine sample, and there's blood in it.

00:41:36.930 --> 00:41:42.559 Frank R. Harrison: It turns out that we found out it was the same tumor extending in

00:41:43.690 --> 00:41:59.819 Frank R. Harrison: hormone then for prescribing a new pill that would not only shrink it, but hopefully do the work that the original drug was doing. So that was an example like you probably experienced in a Sci-fi movie. It was an example of trying to come up with

00:41:59.850 --> 00:42:02.770 Frank R. Harrison: home, care for something that was already working.

00:42:02.950 --> 00:42:08.549 Frank R. Harrison: but serve as a booster, and I found myself like a chicken without a head until I called you.

00:42:08.780 --> 00:42:15.859 Frank R. Harrison: So we're about to take our final break, but I brought that whole into discussions, so that when we return

00:42:16.040 --> 00:42:22.409 Frank R. Harrison: will provide all the experience of what happened with my father recently, which I promised in the beginning we would share.

00:42:22.450 --> 00:42:36.990 Frank R. Harrison: and then also provide information, both you and I, collectively, to the audience out there as to how they can find their best home healthcare options depending upon their age, depending upon their financial resources, their disease so forth, and so on. So.

00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:47.679 Frank R. Harrison: ladies and gentlemen, please stay tuned as we return in the next few minutes. Right here on talk radio, Nyc. And on our talking alternative channel on Youtube and see you in a few

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00:44:51.740 --> 00:45:04.219 Frank R. Harrison: We're back for our final section right here on Frank about health, as we've been discussing about home care, as you can see, Throughout the last 15 min or so it really took a precedence towards the topic of cancer.

00:45:04.270 --> 00:45:14.589 Frank R. Harrison: But then, again, that's what both Barbara and I have in common more recently, especially when it comes to my home care with my father and his prostate cancer, as well as recently

00:45:14.900 --> 00:45:17.290 Frank R. Harrison: Barbara and her sons.

00:45:18.750 --> 00:45:22.619 Frank R. Harrison: I don't remember the name of cancer. It was, but it involved the connective tissue.

00:45:22.980 --> 00:45:29.860 Frank R. Harrison: I guess. Barbara Wow, it's very intriguing story, because, as you, as you've imagined, or as you've expressed.

00:45:30.010 --> 00:45:31.849 Frank R. Harrison: you're dealing with Not only

00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:32.729 Frank R. Harrison: you know

00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:41.220 Frank R. Harrison: the right treatment for the cancer, you're dealing with the right reconstructive treatment for the area in which your son's cancer was affecting.

00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:44.449 Frank R. Harrison: But you're also dealing with the psychological. What ifs

00:45:44.710 --> 00:45:51.489 Frank R. Harrison: okay? Can you can you explain to me what that was like for you. I could probably get shared with you what it was like for me. But

00:45:51.540 --> 00:45:56.649 Frank R. Harrison: from what you've described you you definitely overcame that, so can you describe that

00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.750 Barbara Seckler: it was a little

00:46:00.270 --> 00:46:09.799 Barbara Seckler: as any parents know. When ever your kids are hurting, you're hurting twice as much. Whenever your kids are upset about something, it affects me more than that.

00:46:10.200 --> 00:46:16.030 Barbara Seckler: The all this is saying is, it hurts me more than it hurts you.

00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:18.660 Barbara Seckler: But

00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:20.620 Barbara Seckler: in going through that

00:46:21.710 --> 00:46:26.750 Barbara Seckler: there was a lot of things that the one thing I said to my now daughter-in-law, as I said.

00:46:26.980 --> 00:46:30.190 Barbara Seckler: this is either going to cement you together, or it's going to tear you apart.

00:46:30.510 --> 00:46:38.990 Barbara Seckler: And at that point we didn't know what it was going to do, because they had just gotten back together. They were. They were high school sweethearts, and they broke up for a few years, and they have just gotten back together.

00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:42.330 Barbara Seckler: So

00:46:42.930 --> 00:46:45.530 Barbara Seckler: Fortunately it did cement them together in their

00:46:45.600 --> 00:46:48.300 Barbara Seckler: a very happy couple. They remind me a lot of my parents

00:46:48.340 --> 00:46:50.050 Barbara Seckler: in a lot of ways.

00:46:52.050 --> 00:46:59.399 Barbara Seckler: so it's it's not not. I wouldn't say nice to look back on it now, but it's nice to be where I am now, as opposed to where I was then.

00:46:59.830 --> 00:47:04.920 Barbara Seckler: because then you, when you have a lot of unknowns, you you just don't know what's going on, and I've had

00:47:04.990 --> 00:47:16.590 Barbara Seckler: coworkers come up to me and say, oh, my God, how are you working with what your son's going through? I said. Well, what am I going to do? Sit home and cry when i'm working. I'm not thinking about it now. You gotta compartmentalize and keep productive.

00:47:16.680 --> 00:47:26.769 Frank R. Harrison: Well, as I was saying, your story obviously was and was an inspiration source, especially in helping me deal with my father's ongoing issue, because.

00:47:26.870 --> 00:47:34.460 Frank R. Harrison: being that he was already of age where anyone can assume that you know the prostate cancer, which is something you learn to live with.

00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:41.800 Frank R. Harrison: with the right medications, or whatever it is. The fact that there were side effects forming or resistance to the tumor.

00:47:41.850 --> 00:47:47.760 Frank R. Harrison: you know, shrinking, and it was now growing in the other direction and expanding into another organ.

00:47:48.020 --> 00:47:55.189 Frank R. Harrison: You know it's like you figure out. Well, wait a minute. He's now. My father's 91 years old, so it's like, what do you do? You Just

00:47:55.320 --> 00:48:04.470 Frank R. Harrison: you set them up for palliative care, or do you set them up for any possible last-minute solutions, knowing that surgery or radiation is definitely not one of them. At this point.

00:48:04.810 --> 00:48:09.360 Frank R. Harrison: So what happened was, is, we were lucky after you and I talked

00:48:09.620 --> 00:48:17.310 Frank R. Harrison: to go ahead and research a booster known as Extendi, which is the same hormone blocker that Orgovix was doing.

00:48:17.380 --> 00:48:20.780 Frank R. Harrison: and we went for his Psa this past Tuesday.

00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:38.019 Frank R. Harrison: and it was a slight increase. But that's because, as you remember, when I asked you to come and coach with us. He had been given the prescription, and he wouldn't take it for about 2 weeks, until you literally coached my father virtually to have him with crackers and cheese, or whatever the story was.

00:48:38.380 --> 00:48:45.320 Frank R. Harrison: I got to tell you from that from that point it would. It was 5 or 5 30 in the afternoon on this on a Tuesday.

00:48:45.570 --> 00:48:47.290 Frank R. Harrison: It was a Tuesday when it happened.

00:48:47.320 --> 00:49:04.449 Frank R. Harrison: and all of a sudden, like clockwork, he's doing the same thing. But if it's not crackers and cheese. It's crackers and peanut butter, or or it's probably spaghetti on the side, or whatever it be correct exactly. It it became a little ritual, but

00:49:04.460 --> 00:49:09.430 Frank R. Harrison: it was started by the way you handled it with him. It's like you were his

00:49:09.740 --> 00:49:11.480 Frank R. Harrison: coach, his

00:49:11.810 --> 00:49:16.640 Frank R. Harrison: I don't know Champion right so

00:49:16.940 --> 00:49:23.200 Frank R. Harrison: my mother and I are doing what we can to get all the necessary resources, medically and professionally, and so forth, and so on.

00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:31.479 Frank R. Harrison: But when you're living in the middle of that environment. It's very stressful. So yeah, at least you were you. I mean, you were Family point 1,

00:49:31.940 --> 00:49:38.189 Frank R. Harrison: you know. And of course there's a much higher level of credibility when a family member is helping you with a medical issue

00:49:38.230 --> 00:49:40.559 Frank R. Harrison: versus someone that's been hired

00:49:40.660 --> 00:49:44.449 Frank R. Harrison: from, you know, through the hospital, or the Medicare system, or whomever

00:49:44.900 --> 00:49:53.360 Frank R. Harrison: but point 2, you being a nurse, we're able to also make jokes about it in the way that he would understand, because you know how to type of humor he has.

00:49:53.420 --> 00:49:54.450 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah. So

00:49:54.500 --> 00:49:59.220 Frank R. Harrison: I'm happy to say that as a result of the regiment you helped him in.

00:49:59.430 --> 00:50:06.409 Frank R. Harrison: and all the questions and the ability for you to say you're the patient. It's what you want. You're the man in control.

00:50:06.510 --> 00:50:12.410 Frank R. Harrison: you know you. You boosted his confidence, and he actually looked. I can't say he looked forward to it.

00:50:12.600 --> 00:50:17.440 Frank R. Harrison: but I know that if there was a day when he forgot it, he would go. Oh, no, I need it now

00:50:17.500 --> 00:50:23.590 Frank R. Harrison: versus what it was like before he started it, which is oh, i'm not going to take that it's going to exacerbate the side effects.

00:50:23.720 --> 00:50:34.530 Frank R. Harrison: I think it was very inspirational to the point where not only did he take the pill for 4 weeks in a row as as prescribed

00:50:34.560 --> 00:50:41.850 Frank R. Harrison: in addition to his morning regimen, and and the food intake, and everything, and and lots of electrolyte water that you described, and

00:50:42.860 --> 00:50:45.989 Frank R. Harrison: and the and the way that he was able to get rid of some of those side effects.

00:50:46.410 --> 00:50:55.129 Frank R. Harrison: The the doctor said, Well, you're tolerating this new extendy, and we want to put you now on 2, because I bet you in 6 weeks time

00:50:55.410 --> 00:50:59.380 Frank R. Harrison: your Psa will go back down, and it will be where it was 7 months ago.

00:50:59.630 --> 00:51:00.450 Barbara Seckler: Oh, good!

00:51:00.650 --> 00:51:02.720 Frank R. Harrison: So the whole perspective

00:51:02.830 --> 00:51:05.640 Frank R. Harrison: now compared to 6 months ago

00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:11.240 Frank R. Harrison: I mean I'll be honest with you. I was worried. Am I planning his funeral, or do I plan for.

00:51:11.550 --> 00:51:18.040 Frank R. Harrison: you know, some real nice action plan of how you can live with this like I've been living the last

00:51:18.180 --> 00:51:20.530 Frank R. Harrison: 38 years of my life with epilepsy

00:51:20.770 --> 00:51:25.679 Frank R. Harrison: I haven't had a seizure in 15 years, but I still take my medication, my clockwork.

00:51:25.830 --> 00:51:31.969 Frank R. Harrison: and i'm able to be mindful that whenever I'm not having a good day neurologically, or whatever.

00:51:32.040 --> 00:51:36.669 Frank R. Harrison: I at least know what's going on, and i'm able to deal with tolerate with it. I'm living with it.

00:51:37.080 --> 00:51:41.870 Frank R. Harrison: I think my father is learning to live with this, and not think of it as

00:51:43.040 --> 00:51:44.840 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, excuse me

00:51:45.130 --> 00:51:48.000 Frank R. Harrison: an all- or nothing. Zero-sum game.

00:51:48.490 --> 00:51:52.980 Barbara Seckler: and it's different to with your father hearing something from me

00:51:53.180 --> 00:51:55.030 Barbara Seckler: versus hearing something from

00:51:55.410 --> 00:51:57.799 Barbara Seckler: no matter how old you are. You're still his child.

00:51:58.810 --> 00:52:05.959 Barbara Seckler: Exactly exactly. It doesn't matter what kind of degrees you have, or anything like that. He still sees you as a child and

00:52:09.210 --> 00:52:10.130 Barbara Seckler: a nurse.

00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:15.499 Frank R. Harrison: So that's it. Oh, no! But he he was even telling me. Remember to tell her

00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:17.869 Frank R. Harrison: to come over

00:52:17.890 --> 00:52:20.859 Barbara Seckler: for the weekend.

00:52:21.420 --> 00:52:25.509 Frank R. Harrison: I know we talked about that offline. We'll talk about that over the weekend

00:52:25.550 --> 00:52:29.139 Frank R. Harrison: about making plan in February or something. But

00:52:29.580 --> 00:52:33.880 Frank R. Harrison: the thing is is that there is the You're right about the child factor.

00:52:34.020 --> 00:52:39.690 Frank R. Harrison: What is very interesting, though, and I got to give credit to Sam Leibowitz and talk radio at Mit

00:52:39.860 --> 00:52:57.399 Frank R. Harrison: is the 65 or so shows that I've done on this network allowed me to at least have a conversation with him without any joking, you know, and he would listen, and he would go to the various doctors I found, and you know I was able to move mountains in ways that I probably wouldn't have been able to do 2 years ago.

00:52:57.900 --> 00:53:03.680 Frank R. Harrison: Yeah, you know, the thing is is that it was very interesting at the At the doctor visit this past Tuesday.

00:53:04.070 --> 00:53:06.209 Frank R. Harrison: The doctor says to my father.

00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:12.239 Frank R. Harrison: Do you want me to go right to your son and ask him to give me a case overview, or do you want to tell me what you think?

00:53:12.450 --> 00:53:17.470 Frank R. Harrison: And so my my father says, oh, i'm feeling okay, all right. You go.

00:53:17.850 --> 00:53:19.759 Barbara Seckler: Is it? Okay?

00:53:19.930 --> 00:53:31.580 Frank R. Harrison: Here, take one, and I pull my mass down and I get the whole overview of not just the last 4 weeks, but also the last 6 months, and the transition, and yes, Barbara, you were mentioned.

00:53:31.710 --> 00:53:39.989 Frank R. Harrison: I said, if it wasn't for my cousin Barbara, his niece, he would have never taken the sandy, and we would probably be here talking a different story.

00:53:40.390 --> 00:53:45.300 Frank R. Harrison: And so he said, Well, i'm happy that this is now progressing to where it needs to be.

00:53:45.550 --> 00:53:52.780 Frank R. Harrison: He made the appointments for 6 weeks from now, and he's already started taking 2 of the sandy per night since yesterday.

00:53:52.900 --> 00:53:54.600 Frank R. Harrison: and he has more energy.

00:53:54.630 --> 00:54:03.390 Frank R. Harrison: so I don't know. Maybe the pill has some energy boosters in it. I know that that that is still really helping things in in this environment

00:54:03.430 --> 00:54:13.020 Frank R. Harrison: emotionally for both me and my mother, and at least it's just now, thanks to you, being available to us on Sunday nights to at least coach things along.

00:54:13.240 --> 00:54:17.560 Frank R. Harrison: My father feels like he's on a destination to to achieving something

00:54:17.750 --> 00:54:20.989 Frank R. Harrison: versus like the dark tunnel that we all had felt.

00:54:21.080 --> 00:54:26.620 Frank R. Harrison: Well, I can see we're about to end the show, and I want it very much for people to understand

00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:32.040 Frank R. Harrison: that from what you've dealt with with your son's issue, and of course, your father earlier than that.

00:54:32.170 --> 00:54:36.660 Frank R. Harrison: and what I've just explained about how You've been helpful in helping me deal with my father's issue.

00:54:37.560 --> 00:54:39.879 Frank R. Harrison: I think home care is only

00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:43.370 Frank R. Harrison: the umbrella term for what we both have been dealing with. It's

00:54:43.430 --> 00:54:57.310 Frank R. Harrison: the issue of personal care for your family, your your your loved ones. So do you want to share before we sign off about what resources that you know, are available for those that need to care for a parent or a loved one a spouse.

00:54:57.390 --> 00:55:00.730 Frank R. Harrison: somebody, I mean, I know we have about a minute right there.

00:55:01.040 --> 00:55:04.620 Barbara Seckler: Yeah. But what I I work primarily

00:55:04.870 --> 00:55:08.349 Barbara Seckler: and home care with medicare patients. That's a bulk of my

00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:09.250 Barbara Seckler: work.

00:55:09.580 --> 00:55:16.350 Barbara Seckler: If you have Medicare and you want to have a visiting nurse, or visiting physical therapist or occupational therapist.

00:55:16.750 --> 00:55:20.290 Barbara Seckler: You call your doctor, and the doctor makes the referral to home care.

00:55:20.390 --> 00:55:25.789 Barbara Seckler: and then the home care nurse comes out and does an evaluation and recommends whatever services they have

00:55:25.890 --> 00:55:30.890 Barbara Seckler: It's basically on a short-term basis under Medicare, and

00:55:31.710 --> 00:55:35.680 Barbara Seckler: our main goal I tell everybody is to keep you keep them out of the hospital.

00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.029 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, exactly.

00:55:38.660 --> 00:55:48.759 Frank R. Harrison: Okay. And ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for spending the last hour with me and Barbara. We want to share our personal stories of what it was like to care for loved ones, especially.

00:55:48.970 --> 00:56:07.530 Frank R. Harrison: Relatively speaking, we both had cancer issues going on. Her son, my father, her uncle. But it is about keeping the family together as best as possible while finding the best resources available. please stay tuned for Next week, as I have a show. The returning guests

00:56:07.540 --> 00:56:26.880 Frank R. Harrison: from the replacement. Forum replacement, child forum with Phyllis Quinlan, and I we're going to be discussing about forgiveness. And also stay tuned for our Friday block of shows, philanthropy and focus, and always Friday right here on Friday on talk radio and Nyc. And on Facebook Youtube Channel one

00:56:26.970 --> 00:56:32.379 Frank R. Harrison: and thank you for staying in touch. If you need to reach out to me.

00:56:32.500 --> 00:56:36.000 Frank R. Harrison: I'm at Frank R. Harrison, one at

00:56:36.100 --> 00:56:43.580 Frank R. Harrison: And thank you for watching and thank you, Dylan, for producing this show, and I will be will be here again next week.

00:56:43.720 --> 00:56:44.580 Frank R. Harrison: Take care.

00:56:45.310 --> 00:56:46.109 Barbara Seckler: bye, bye.

00:56:46.210 --> 00:56:47.660 Frank R. Harrison: bye, bye, Barbara.

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