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Facebook Live Video from 2022/10/06 - The Potentialist: Your Future In The New Reality

Facebook Live Video from 2022/10/06 - The Potentialist: Your Future In The New Reality


2022/10/06 - The Potentialist: Your Future In The New Reality

[NEW EPISODE] The Potentialist: Your Future In The New Reality


- The audience will learn about The Potentialist from a healthcare perspective yet it does cover other aspects of life and society that will be shifted with Technology and Innovation over the next 30 Years. 

- Ben will demonstrate that the time to adapt and prepare is being compressed, opportunities are being missed, and there will be unnecessary suffering unless prompt action is taken.

- The audience will also learn Ben's take on Commitment to optimal health today can make affordable healthy longevity possible for many people.

- And expanding technology – especially as more healthcare is now doable at home, post-pandemic we’re seeing how in many cases, with support of technology, some people can rely less on in-person appointments and use technology to relay information to their doctors from home.


Ben Lytle is a serial entrepreneur and health-care innovator known for being ahead of the curve. He launched five successful companies, including two on the New York Stock Exchange. The best known is Anthem, one of three leading U.S. health plans with a market capitalization placing it in the top 30 of the Fortune 500. He also founded Acordia, Inc., which became the world’s 7th largest insurance broker.

He is the author of the new book, The Potentialist: Your Life in the New Reality of the Next Thirty Years, with two companion books to follow in 2023 and 2024. The series is intended as a guidebook for success during the fast-changing, turbulent, and opportunity-rich times ahead — named The Fourth Industrial Revolution by the World Economic Forum.

Tune in for this healthy conversation at

Show Notes

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00:00:32.680 --> 00:00:49.860 Frank R. Harrison: hey, everybody, and welcome to a new episode of Frank about health. Today we're on our Youtube Channel as well as talk radio and Nyc. And we have a very interesting guest for you today. His name is Ben Lidel, and he has a book out in the marketplace right now, called the potentialist.

00:00:49.930 --> 00:01:08.410 Frank R. Harrison: I want to explain to you very, something very, very interesting about this this book. Before we go into a further discussion. It looks at what the Covid nineteen pandemic, has turned our society into a way of being able to cope with the unexpected

00:01:08.420 --> 00:01:17.170 Frank R. Harrison: using technology innovation and putting a lot of people who were depending on their age group, not sure what to do,

00:01:17.180 --> 00:01:36.720 Frank R. Harrison: and looked for the right or easiest path to solve their issues, and at the same time we are changing and involving their mindset into the new reality that is now post pandemic. That being said, the book is titled the potentialist, Your future in the new reality of the next thirty years.

00:01:36.730 --> 00:01:54.039 Frank R. Harrison: Now, Ben Litel is basically using this as one of a three book series, and I gotta tell you I couldn't put this book down, because it pretty much identifies with what I've been doing this past year on Frank about health, in being able to accommodate all the last-minute changes that have occurred two hundred and fifty,

00:01:54.200 --> 00:02:03.669 Frank R. Harrison: due to Covid, due to a personal care that I had to give to my father my cousin, and among other guests that I've had on the show.

00:02:03.710 --> 00:02:17.229 Frank R. Harrison: I did also want to give my annual, my my weekly disclaimer, which is that the comments and discussion points that Ben and I will be having during the next hour are not the views of talk, Radio and Nyc.

00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:34.729 Frank R. Harrison: Or of the show, Frank about health, but rather they are content. That will be discovered further in in detail in this book, which again is a mustreat. That being said, I want to first welcome you, Ben, to Frank about health, and then discuss a little bit about your background. But

00:02:34.740 --> 00:02:38.350 Frank R. Harrison: I thought I first let you give your own comments as well.

00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:56.719 Larry Ben Lytle: Well, thank you very much. I'm. I'm. I'm pleased to be here, and have the opportunity to to talk to people uh who care about health and think about it and think about, uh, how we can do it. We can do it better. Uh, you know, I've been around health care for a long, long time,

00:02:56.730 --> 00:03:19.140 Larry Ben Lytle: and one of the things that I think I find is a misunderstanding even among policymakers in Washington is, They often talk about fixing health care, and there is no fixing it's. I think it's the wrong way to look at it. The best way to think about health, care, and health,

00:03:19.160 --> 00:03:26.139 Larry Ben Lytle: for the average person is, Think about the that. If it were the fountain of youth,

00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:32.609 Larry Ben Lytle: how would you allocate the fountain of you. Mountain bees can only produce so much water.

00:03:32.620 --> 00:03:51.620 Larry Ben Lytle: It's got it it It can only take you so far. Ah, if you you know, and and and And so, when we think about the health and health care, we have to think about it as an evolving Ah, an evolving thing, we're every day inventing new things to do.

00:03:51.630 --> 00:04:08.320 Larry Ben Lytle: We're learning more about what the causality of disease is. Most people think Well, Don't, We always know what the cause of disease is, in fact, is No, It's about about fifteen percent of the time. We really know the ultimate cause of a disease, one hundred and fifty,

00:04:08.330 --> 00:04:38.309 Larry Ben Lytle: with with with the science we now have in in in gene technology and and and constant discovery. We're getting closer, but it's a very, very complicated issue. It evolves, and we have to involve with it our thinking as to evolve with it. But there's not not going to be some magic day when some, if we do this. Everybody's going to have all the health care they need, and everybody is going to have good health, and we know everything we do is going to be a

00:04:38.320 --> 00:04:40.559 Larry Ben Lytle: efficacious. We don't know that

00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:57.710 Frank R. Harrison: Right you would. Would you say that was the way a lot of us thought prior to the pandemic, and that just became disruptive as a result of watching our whole society change shut down. But I think what I don't really think I mean I I haven't found

00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:16.450 Larry Ben Lytle: attitudes towards healthcare changed a lot in in in really about forty or fifty years. Nor have I found in terms of how you work with the health care system and what you have to do. Certainly the pandemic was a big wake up call, and it accelerated

00:05:16.460 --> 00:05:35.750 Larry Ben Lytle: a lot of things uh about treatment and health care that we hadn't thought about before. Uh, but but some of these things have been in in place for a very long time, and and and and the pandemic just brought. It brought everything more to everyone's attention that I mean, you know there's always

00:05:35.760 --> 00:05:52.329 Larry Ben Lytle: The pandemic was a horrible thing. Wish it would never happen. So many people died and suffered. But these things always bring other things that turn out to be good. It happened in the great play with the Black Plague. It's happened every time, so

00:05:52.340 --> 00:06:05.099 Larry Ben Lytle: we just have to be thankful for the things that did come. And certainly we'd learned a lot about how we alternate ways to to get care, and it's triggered

00:06:05.110 --> 00:06:12.619 Larry Ben Lytle: really hundreds of thousands of innovators and innovative ideas. And that's a good thing.

00:06:13.260 --> 00:06:19.179 Frank R. Harrison: So would you classify that Covid nineteen, was a catalytic event or a disruptive event

00:06:19.520 --> 00:06:27.250 Frank R. Harrison: that's brought out the entrepreneurial and innovation. Yeah, it was both. It disrupted the health care system, as we know it.

00:06:27.280 --> 00:06:47.180 Larry Ben Lytle: Ah, it was catalytic in that it triggered an enormous amount of innovation. You know it's always, you know, necessities, the mother of invention, and we literally. I spent years and and and was quite a bit of time right before Ah, right before the pandemic

00:06:47.190 --> 00:07:02.000 Larry Ben Lytle: in Washington, trying to convince policymakers. Ah, and and also at the State level, to convince policymakers that ah e visits and and telemedicine could be a very good thing,

00:07:02.010 --> 00:07:23.630 Larry Ben Lytle: and that we had. We had a a hodgepodge of State laws that made it very difficult to for innovators in this field to to navigate that, and I don't own any stock in any E-visit companies or anything like that. I was merely trying to say that we have a huge problem coming huge

00:07:23.640 --> 00:07:42.340 Larry Ben Lytle: a and and it's, and It's that we have a shortage of doctors. Uh, you know, before the pan that the two were not related, the the the Covid, and the shortage of of of doctors, and hot and so forth. Was not the nurses didn't happen because of the pandemic

00:07:42.350 --> 00:07:49.570 Larry Ben Lytle: that has. That's something we've known about for twenty five years is that birth rates were falling.

00:07:50.070 --> 00:08:19.320 Larry Ben Lytle: Yeah, people were aging out. Doctors were aging out. We were not replacing doctors as fast as they raging out, and a lot of us were waving flags going problem. This is going to be a big problem and particularly primary paradox, and we couldn't get anyone to pay attention to it. Now it's it's front and center. We all see it. We all see we can't get flights because there's no pilots. We see we can't get service at restaurants because there's not enough waiters. And so now the reality,

00:08:19.770 --> 00:08:27.389 Larry Ben Lytle: the fact that we have we have a declining population in the West is very real. The

00:08:27.420 --> 00:08:38.400 Larry Ben Lytle: and it's really going to hit us on health care. So back during before the pandemic, What I was trying to do was to bring that attention to policymakers to say, Look,

00:08:38.409 --> 00:08:57.919 Larry Ben Lytle: we, we're going to have to have a way to, so to make doctors see more patients and be more effective. And one of those ways are is e visits and telemedicine, and and and the only barrier there's no technological barrier. The barrier is outdated regulation one,

00:08:57.930 --> 00:09:14.109 Larry Ben Lytle: and so let's find a way to get through that. I had some some luck, uh, you know, within Medicare or not luck, but I had some effect, I think an influence within Medicare and Medicaid, but as a whole it took the pandemic to change it way bigger than me.

00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:34.049 Frank R. Harrison: But then that comes to basically your whole background, I mean essentially, you became the potentialist or the Futurist through your experience and working in State and Federal health care commissions Correct? No, no, it really started Long before that I was. I was when I was twenty years old.

00:09:34.450 --> 00:09:54.399 Larry Ben Lytle: I took a a college, a a college course taught by a um a charismatic young professor, and I was a kid off the or young man off the ranch, you know, grew up on a ranch, grew up in a in A, in a, in a and a relatively, you know, small town. And and

00:09:54.410 --> 00:09:59.490 Larry Ben Lytle: he said to our class, you do not have to be.

00:09:59.670 --> 00:10:14.410 Larry Ben Lytle: Ah, what Ah! Anyone else says you should be in terms of your life, your career ah, not your parents. Ah, not, and not what anyone tells you. You need to be to be successful.

00:10:14.420 --> 00:10:24.489 Larry Ben Lytle: You need to your your you The way for you to to find true success is to discover your own potential and live it.

00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:44.139 Larry Ben Lytle: And that was the moment I became a potentialist. It was an aha moment for me. I began to study human potential. How you try to determine what your potential is, and live to it. And then and then there was the second seminal event about five years later.

00:10:44.150 --> 00:10:54.810 Larry Ben Lytle: Um! Why, by then I was, you know, an an it professional and a and a man in management role, and so forth, because everybody was young back then in those,

00:10:54.820 --> 00:11:24.449 Larry Ben Lytle: and I discovered. I'd always liked science fiction, but I discovered Futurists and and Futurists are are more like a so where science fiction uses uses stories and and and tails to to help you imagine the future Futurists do it more with facts and figures and and analytics, and and I, but I realized that they so they were doing the same thing. I was where I was exploring

00:11:24.460 --> 00:11:42.280 Larry Ben Lytle: mit ctl and the potential of individuals and groups of individuals uh and companies. They were doing it by stores, by studying the potential of the human rights. And I said, Well, that's that's one in the same, then. So I became both a Futurist and a potentialist one,

00:11:42.290 --> 00:11:59.100 Larry Ben Lytle: and it ended up shaping my entire life because I've been a successful businessman, entrepreneur and leader, and it's because it's because I look at life through the lens of potential. I lead people by looking at

00:11:59.110 --> 00:12:16.310 Larry Ben Lytle: what's What's this? How can I help this person discover their potential and then live it out, because if they do that they're going to love working with me, and they're going to love their job and they're going to make their maximum contribution. So it really has shaped my entire life.

00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:22.420 Larry Ben Lytle: So health care is just a part of it, but it's really a it's a life velocity for me.

00:12:23.070 --> 00:12:41.430 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, yeah, I mean, I I know that I started this show, Frank, about health because of my life experience with epilepsy. So I became an advocate for it, and I just noticed that I am I of especially through Covid. So I I think I followed the same same kind of evolution through circumstance. And that's why,

00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:58.710 Larry Ben Lytle: yeah, you found what you wanted to do, right? I mean, you found your You found your place where and then when you do that, you really tend to be at your best, and and and you achieve more than you ever think you could, and because you got the wind at your back.

00:12:59.170 --> 00:13:16.259 Frank R. Harrison: Correct. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're about to take our first break. But you basically heard the introduction of our guests today, and just to summarize before we take our break. It says here that Ben Litel is a self-made serial entrepreneur and ceo known for being ahead of the curve,

00:13:16.290 --> 00:13:25.969 Frank R. Harrison: launched five successful companies, the best known being anthem, which today is twenty ninth on the Fortune, five hundred list, with a market value of over one hundred billion.

00:13:25.980 --> 00:13:55.950 Frank R. Harrison: As he as he mentioned, he's a health care policy expert who served on State and Presidential health care commissions. His devotion is to individual and collective human potential, and He believes that people in organizations today underestimate the extended speed which the world will change, especially after Covid, nineteen started in two thousand and twenty. That being said, When we return from our break, we're now going to go through the book, the potentialist that will show a reflection of his life experience, and what he's now foreseeing

00:13:55.960 --> 00:14:07.149 Frank R. Harrison: for all of us as we move forward the next thirty years. So please stay tuned for this episode of Frank about health right here on talk radio and Nyc. And on our Youtube Channel. We'll be back in a few.

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00:16:20.470 --> 00:16:31.980 Frank R. Harrison: welcome back. We're here with my special guest today, Ben Litel, and we're talking about his book, the Potentialists, your future in the new reality of the next thirty years,

00:16:31.990 --> 00:16:44.770 Frank R. Harrison: that all being said, Ah! Again, when I was reading it. I was looking at your examples of various situations people like Ah, I think her name was Ah Alyssa or Ellison.

00:16:44.780 --> 00:16:54.119 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, so that she learned that during Covid nineteen, in order to continue functioning, she had to really grasp zoom technology which we all had to do in one way shape perform.

00:16:54.130 --> 00:17:19.039 Frank R. Harrison: I gather she was also seeing her doctors through telehealth. She was probably doing her bill, paying her shopping, her food, ordering her communications with others. I mean everything became a virtual existence. Um, I I can understand that depending on the demographic of the user people under the Gen. Z. Generation, for example, I think they're the under twenty group or even people. Yeah, let's just say the older generation,

00:17:19.050 --> 00:17:34.699 Frank R. Harrison: the the speed of an adaptation must have fluctuated, depending on the segment that was going through that change, you know, and I I guess what I wanted to first focus was on was the older generation, because they are the ones that are going to have a challenge

00:17:34.710 --> 00:17:52.450 Frank R. Harrison: in looking at the next thirty years. So what would you say as a Futurist or a potentialist would be the best way to educate them, and understanding that this is the new reality that using technology is part of their life on various levels. But in this particular case health care.

00:17:52.880 --> 00:18:20.470 Larry Ben Lytle: Well, I it. It's very age and demographic uh dependent, you know. If you're in rural areas it's not always easy to get good Wi-fi and cellular service. Uh you. You may not be as exposed to technology as you are in more urban areas. But having said that, I'm always surprised. You know you find people of all ages who are really quite good at technology.

00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:31.579 Larry Ben Lytle: Ah, you know the in in the one of the principles I think that that, you know is is in my book, and and is that this this future is coming?

00:18:31.750 --> 00:18:50.559 Larry Ben Lytle: It's we don't. We don't have a choice about it a lot of times. People think i'm advocating one thing or that i'm not. I'm just saying, Hey, if I if I if i'm reading the tea leaves right, and I think I am. Um, then this is what it's going to be. So. The only choice we have is either adapt

00:18:50.570 --> 00:19:03.720 Larry Ben Lytle: uh, prepare, and adapt because you can do a lot of preparation to help you. Uh, or you pretty well get slammed, and we know that exists. That will happen. It's not a maybe one hundred,

00:19:03.730 --> 00:19:17.379 Larry Ben Lytle: because this is the fourth industrial Revolution, according to the World Economic Forum. And I actually think it's even more than that. I think it is an absolutely transitional period

00:19:17.390 --> 00:19:27.700 Larry Ben Lytle: in in human history where we're moving from the industrial age into a completely different time. That's an expansion of human potential

00:19:27.800 --> 00:19:43.229 Larry Ben Lytle: and and and and that human ah potential expansion is going to come about because of medicine. It's going to come about because of the changes in technology and work. And so so the the choice is, Really,

00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:48.879 Larry Ben Lytle: Am I going to adapt, or am I going to roll the dice and see what happens?

00:19:49.120 --> 00:20:18.939 Larry Ben Lytle: It's our nature to want to do that. It's human nature, you know. It goes back, and it's not new. It goes back to Aesop's fables, you know, from from several thousand years ago. Ah, where you know the the the fable of the of the ant and the grass up. You know where the the good. The ants were very, you know, put storing food for the winter, and the grasshopper was laughing at him and saying, Why, why are you doing that? Why, don't you enjoy life, man, you know. Just end, of course. Then later he's back

00:20:18.950 --> 00:20:32.330 Larry Ben Lytle: and begging because he's going to starve to death, and they say, Well, you should have thought of that. And so so it's our nature to want to say. Well, i'll deal with it when it gets here. The reason that won't work this time,

00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:42.390 Larry Ben Lytle: because there's going to be so much change in so many things, and it's going to happen so fast you can't react.

00:20:42.650 --> 00:21:01.190 Larry Ben Lytle: And so you can't even comprehend fast enough to react. So you need to plan now and do the things that can give you the stability and the confidence to navigate through these times, and that's so. That's what the book is. The first eighty eight pages

00:21:01.260 --> 00:21:14.779 Larry Ben Lytle: I try to. That's what I think will happen in the next thirty years, and that's everybody. Think Well, I got thirty years. No, you don't It's happening right now. You know it's right this minute. It's happening, and and then

00:21:14.790 --> 00:21:31.679 Larry Ben Lytle: right, and then the the the other part of then the next one hundred and forty something pages seven chapters says, here's seven things that if you'll do, and you don't have to get them all become a master of them at once. But if you master these seven things

00:21:31.690 --> 00:21:40.780 Larry Ben Lytle: you will be. You will be far better prepared than most people to make it through these times, and succeed and prosper.

00:21:40.800 --> 00:21:59.829 Larry Ben Lytle: And that's and all. The reason I did this was because I know you know we we know from the previous industrial revolutions the people who adapted and quickly, you know, and prepared. They did well, and the people who didn't had a lot of suffering, and I just don't want to see that happen. We should be smarter.

00:22:00.040 --> 00:22:02.220 Larry Ben Lytle: So at least,

00:22:02.380 --> 00:22:31.930 Frank R. Harrison: yeah, you could say, this book becomes more of a guidebook for everyone when they need to evolve over whatever they have ten, twenty, thirty years, and and prepare as much as they can, especially in whatever their main focus is, whether it's their career, their families, their education, they they at least it also helps, regulate their mental health and and and it comes down the anxiety levels they must be experiencing, coming out of a pandemic. You think you're going to go back to where you were from. But no, you're not. You're going to have to

00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:44.790 Larry Ben Lytle: learn the new normal, as they say right. And and these were all things all seven of these. This, these items I selected are things that were always good to do,

00:22:44.800 --> 00:22:55.770 Larry Ben Lytle: but in the future, with change, which change happening faster, and with the other change forces that are happening, declining population

00:22:55.780 --> 00:23:06.380 Larry Ben Lytle: and and increasing technology. Now, it's going to be critical that living longer. It's going to be critical that you do this now. It's not optional.

00:23:06.390 --> 00:23:35.930 Larry Ben Lytle: And so, but that's how I selected the seven. I used a a focus group of all different age groups to help me select the seven and make sure I was hitting the ones that everybody thought was critical. I didn't want it to be twenty things. People can't do that, and I I shot for five and got seven, so I but they're all good. They're really they, and they're Mac. There's things everybody can master. These are not something you have to spend a lot of money. It's not that you have to turn your

00:23:35.940 --> 00:23:54.910 Larry Ben Lytle: life upside down. If you start now, if you wait too late now. You will have to turn your life upside down. So that's why it's really important to digest these. Pick up, pick, start, making progress on everyone and set yourself a goal where you would say, Yeah, I've mastered that

00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:56.540 Larry Ben Lytle: each one of these

00:23:56.660 --> 00:24:12.100 Frank R. Harrison: of the seven, which is the one that would fit, regardless of age, that everyone must get a grasp on, especially as we are going out of the pandemic from all the protections to now this new way of adapting. What would you say? That one? We said.

00:24:12.110 --> 00:24:20.960 Larry Ben Lytle: I think there I think they all are. But I would say that that the ones that are the most important are health.

00:24:21.260 --> 00:24:33.960 Larry Ben Lytle: Ah, wealth and success. Because you're going to live longer and to live longer. You need your health, or else life is not a longer Life's not necessarily going to be that pleasant.

00:24:33.970 --> 00:24:57.620 Larry Ben Lytle: If you don't have the wealth, and you're scraping to pay for everything you're struggling to survive again, because you've lived longer. Now you got more live more years to live, and you haven't you haven't saved you haven't built enough time built enough. Then it's, then it's going to be. It's going to be much more difficult, and the last one is success. I am a true measure of success,

00:24:57.630 --> 00:25:06.700 Larry Ben Lytle: I believe, from my study of people who are exceptional, and that doesn't mean they're all wealthy. They They they were just exceptional people.

00:25:06.910 --> 00:25:21.760 Larry Ben Lytle: Ah! Is not money, fame, power, or appearance, any of our social status, because those are all transitory. And at the end of the day, when you lay your head down on the on the pillow.

00:25:21.770 --> 00:25:41.600 Larry Ben Lytle: That's when you really assess success, and people who go to sleep and go. Yeah, man, I did it are the people who gave it their all they they found they discovered their potential. They lived it, and and they didn't miss a beat, and that's

00:25:41.740 --> 00:25:58.269 Frank R. Harrison: not the collective success, the individual success, knowing your talent, knowing yourself, knowing your instincts, using your guts right, being able to recall events of the past, and how you learn from them and use those new skills you learn to adapt to the new issues you face

00:25:58.280 --> 00:26:04.069 Larry Ben Lytle: right and and I and people said to me, Well, how do you measure that? You know,

00:26:04.260 --> 00:26:15.410 Larry Ben Lytle: you know, and only you know, and I use a simple little definition. This is what guides me and everything I do, and what I what I've taught other people to use

00:26:15.580 --> 00:26:17.730 Larry Ben Lytle: this this little simple thing.

00:26:18.040 --> 00:26:21.469 Larry Ben Lytle: I do my best, my best

00:26:21.670 --> 00:26:24.389 Larry Ben Lytle: to be my best

00:26:24.850 --> 00:26:31.600 Larry Ben Lytle: Leave the world and the people I meet along the way a little better than I found

00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:46.950 Larry Ben Lytle: You don't have to do great magic things. Just leave everybody and everything. You do a little better than I found you know that's what they teach you right out of, you know. At least I was taught the basics of management to leave it there, and you found it

00:26:47.410 --> 00:26:54.750 Larry Ben Lytle: right, leave it better than you found it. Well, that's what that's really what life is. If you set yourself

00:26:54.760 --> 00:27:23.229 Larry Ben Lytle: i'm going to do my best, and you'll know what your best is. We all know it athletically. We know when you know we we we have a sense of knowing. Look, I can't. I can't stuff a basketball. You know it, you know I I I can't do that. I'm not tall enough. I'm not athletic. Okay, but my best is, I can shoot a pretty good layout, you know. That's that's my best, you know. I can choose you for. Lay ups reliably, or I can get rebound. So it's the same thing as in athletics in our life,

00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:34.980 Larry Ben Lytle: Mit. C.

00:27:35.520 --> 00:27:46.850 Frank R. Harrison: Very nice, you know it's almost like what they say. It's in the giving that you receive, but using that as a cornerstone, you just know that with everyone that you meet, give your best,

00:27:46.860 --> 00:28:05.960 Frank R. Harrison: and whatever whatever it evolves or resolves from that you'll know better in the future whether that individual is someone you will continue to work with, or know or relate to, or whether they were one of those people along the along the journey. That's right. And and for for

00:28:05.970 --> 00:28:18.170 Larry Ben Lytle: really life can't ask more than our best from us. Other people can't ask more than our best. That's what we say to our kids. We say, do your best if you do your best. I'm proud of you.

00:28:18.180 --> 00:28:27.789 Larry Ben Lytle: You know that's all we ask. And so it becomes a very. It's almost like a universal ethos. You know that you can really build your life

00:28:27.800 --> 00:28:46.260 Larry Ben Lytle: around that, and it's usable. It's practical. So, anyway, that that's a big part of That's a big part of of what drives me, and it's trying to share that. And I and I, I do believe, though the other part of the book is that this period what's going to happen with

00:28:46.270 --> 00:28:52.630 Larry Ben Lytle: the technology and medicine is that our potential is going to automatically expand.

00:28:53.090 --> 00:28:59.899 Larry Ben Lytle: All right. Now. We're about to take a break. But I want you to get into that again, especially when it comes to our youth

00:28:59.910 --> 00:29:13.909 Frank R. Harrison: and our Gen. Z. People because they're all going to be educated on this new evolution, or, as we said, an evolution that's happening, So please stay tuned as we're talking with the potentialist right here on Frank about health. We'll be back in a few.

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00:31:13.830 --> 00:31:43.810 Frank R. Harrison: welcome back. We're here with ben little talking. About um! Oh, Lidel, forgive me! We're here talking about innovation and the changes that have occurred post-pandemic, and we had a brief discussion about how older generations are learning to capitalize on the changes they've had to learn to adapt to or find themselves in, a situation which we're hoping that this book. The potential is will guide people from avoiding by that being said, We have the Gen. Z. Population that is learning this from

00:31:43.820 --> 00:32:12.469 Frank R. Harrison: the ground up. And So I wanted to talk about this, not from a perspective of innovation, resistance, but innovation, education, or at least, what would you say about the Genesee population? When would people who have gone through the pandemic best teach their children, or teach the younger generation about how technology and about all these new methodologies with health care would be better to adapt to right when they're in high school or younger than that.

00:32:13.350 --> 00:32:25.500 Larry Ben Lytle: Yeah, let me let me come at it from this way. First you would think I would say, that the number one, the the number one biggest barrier

00:32:25.690 --> 00:32:29.689 Larry Ben Lytle: people of all ages adapting

00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:50.889 Larry Ben Lytle: to change very rapid change. Ah, some of it's technological, some of its medicals. There's all kinds of technology, if you, if you go out and and you look at any industry and you which I do, and the and you look for What are the leading changes? What's the cutting edge in each industry? You'd be blown away.

00:32:50.930 --> 00:33:08.629 Larry Ben Lytle: Every industry is, is advancing at a pace like we'd never seen. But but but if you go back again to the prior, industrial revolutions are just the experiences we you know we had in. We had in Covid the biggest, the biggest barrier

00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.570 Larry Ben Lytle: to adapt it and doing well is fear,

00:33:13.090 --> 00:33:14.809 Larry Ben Lytle: fear of change,

00:33:14.910 --> 00:33:24.259 Larry Ben Lytle: fear of the unknown and pessimism, and they have different effects. Fear causes us to freeze up the

00:33:24.300 --> 00:33:26.069 Larry Ben Lytle: it causes this just

00:33:26.130 --> 00:33:40.259 Larry Ben Lytle: like this, and it also causes us to make bad decisions we become, you know. I don't. I don't know if anybody has ever made a really good decision when they're fearful. You you have to be calm, thoughtful, resolute.

00:33:40.310 --> 00:33:58.459 Larry Ben Lytle: Ah! And pessimism has the effect of blinding you to opportunity, because even when things around you seem turbulent, there's tons of That's when things are. There's a lot of opportunity when things are extraordinarily stable. It's harder. So that's when entrepreneurs go. Wow! Great day today,

00:33:58.470 --> 00:34:14.320 Larry Ben Lytle: you know. So So that's what you want to do, and and we got a long way to go. Uh, Frank, we There's a reason, was a recent national news Call seventy percent of the people, the respondents to the poll.

00:34:14.460 --> 00:34:18.369 Larry Ben Lytle: The future will be worse than today. The

00:34:18.650 --> 00:34:19.959 Larry Ben Lytle: that's not

00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:49.499 Larry Ben Lytle: that is nonsense, and that says they've been fed. If you just watch what we see on the news. You watch politicians, and you watch, you know even products were sold. If you don't get this, you're in real trouble. You know It's Here's become the the the cheapest, easiest way to sell, and that's that has bad. It has bad effects, and to get our attention even more. Concerning a recent survey, Only ten percent

00:34:49.510 --> 00:35:00.719 Larry Ben Lytle: of of the survey respondents in in this ah poll of night of this, this survey of nineteen to twenty-five year olds, only ten percent were confident in their future

00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:02.370 ten percent.

00:35:02.870 --> 00:35:25.419 Larry Ben Lytle: That says we got a problem, We and we and and we have to turn that around. And the other interesting thing is, most young people, even today take their attitudes from Ah, from young people, from their parents, their parents and their grandparents are the biggest influencers of how their perspective into the world.

00:35:25.450 --> 00:35:39.279 Larry Ben Lytle: Well, there's the parents are walking around going. Oh, it's horrible! It's never been so bad of I and the grandparents do the same thing in particular. You know they were older people. We tend to fall into that trap.

00:35:39.560 --> 00:35:46.999 Larry Ben Lytle: It's it's just nonsense. It's not true. We live in the best, safest time in history period

00:35:47.010 --> 00:36:05.490 Larry Ben Lytle: mit

00:36:05.740 --> 00:36:07.430 Larry Ben Lytle: We don't do that anymore.

00:36:07.770 --> 00:36:16.209 Larry Ben Lytle: We don't take. We don't take young, you know, little kids to to to public executions. We don't have public executions anymore.

00:36:16.310 --> 00:36:20.600 Larry Ben Lytle: Those kind of think we forget that. So we need to have the perspective.

00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:31.290 Larry Ben Lytle: We live in the best times in history. Now we've got the opportunity to make it not only better, but much better, with these powerful technologies that we're inventing.

00:36:31.790 --> 00:36:43.730 Frank R. Harrison: So in essence, there's a lot of reframing and rethinking that has to go on because the Gen. Z audience is essentially resistant to future planning. They're afraid of it. They don't understand it,

00:36:43.740 --> 00:37:11.729 Larry Ben Lytle: and they probably have to be re-educate, while the individual parent or teacher has to be re-educated first, and then in turn transfer that knowledge base to the Genzi population that is going to evolve with the with the new. It It really does it right. It doesn't take a lot of study, I mean. I wrote my book to help people make that explanation. You know there's a there's a whole chapter or half of the chapter four, and in um in chapter four there,

00:37:11.740 --> 00:37:28.209 Larry Ben Lytle: where I talk about, will the future be better or worse? And I make the case for why it will be better, and it's a compelling case because we, my my case, is three million years, three million years of human existence. The ark of history is always upward.

00:37:28.220 --> 00:37:37.839 Larry Ben Lytle: We go through bad times, you know. We see a lot of division in the country today, and so forth, that always portends a better time.

00:37:38.150 --> 00:37:53.299 Larry Ben Lytle: That's the birthing of a better time always. And so so it doesn't take a lot all yet. The books helpful, but it's a it's also, if you if you just say to your kids and grandkids, you know what We' through this.

00:37:53.310 --> 00:38:09.840 Larry Ben Lytle: We've been through this a lot of times, you know. Yeah, I was there in the sixties, and there was so much anger over the Vietnam war, and we were, you know we were killing college kids on campus, and you know it was. But we we'll get through this,

00:38:09.850 --> 00:38:17.439 Larry Ben Lytle: and and and you just need to believe in that and start looking for all the good things that are coming and take advantage of them. So

00:38:17.590 --> 00:38:19.909 Larry Ben Lytle: that's that's the way we get there.

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:25.480 Frank R. Harrison: What would you say about the environment and the future of the environment itself, like with climate change.

00:38:25.720 --> 00:38:39.509 Larry Ben Lytle: Well, the one thing that we the one thing I will say, of course it's something we have to pay attention to. We are paying attention to. But, uh, but but people have. There is a thing in human nature

00:38:39.550 --> 00:38:42.730 Larry Ben Lytle: that loves the thought of cataclysm the

00:38:43.180 --> 00:39:02.799 Larry Ben Lytle: uh it really does. I'm convinced that the third person born on earth with this ending tomorrow, you know everyone think. Oh, well, you know that can't be, you know, in people's well in the year one thousand. There were mass suicides

00:39:02.810 --> 00:39:04.769 Larry Ben Lytle: because it was the year One thousand

00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:06.510 Larry Ben Lytle: is that in time

00:39:06.680 --> 00:39:23.620 Larry Ben Lytle: possibly live more than a thousand years, So do we have a serious, environmental issue? Yes, but what everybody forgets when they are drawn to cataclysm, and it is something in our Psyche that kind of likes it.

00:39:23.630 --> 00:39:41.989 Larry Ben Lytle: Um. And and I I personally think it's every ego can't imagine the world continuing without it, you know so so. But but but I think we have. We always forget, uh, that again. Necessity is the mother of invention,

00:39:42.000 --> 00:40:05.539 Larry Ben Lytle: and and we will solve this. We will solve it. We'll figure it out. It will. Innovation will save our bacon. It does it every time. And And there are many, many, many, many millions of smart people working on this problem right now. And so. And of course, you know we are looking at the like already in the West. We're going to have fewer people,

00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:18.420 Larry Ben Lytle: and you're you know we're not even replacing ourselves in the West. It takes two point one Ah, ah! Children being born per female to keep in population flat

00:40:18.430 --> 00:40:34.509 Larry Ben Lytle: erez agmoni in the entire developed world. No one is at two point one, everyone is somewhere short of two point one we're point one point seven in the United States, Italy, Spain, North Korea, some other. They're in free Fall China, or in freefall, one hundred and fifty,

00:40:34.520 --> 00:40:43.709 Larry Ben Lytle: because they're they're not even come close to replacing themselves. Well, if your people create less, you know, create less pollution.

00:40:43.720 --> 00:40:54.580 Larry Ben Lytle: And so we've got that working for us, and people weren't even aware of that, you know until the last two years. So but it's we've every people that follow this stuff like me

00:40:54.590 --> 00:41:13.549 Larry Ben Lytle: have known about it for more than twenty-five years, and there's a great book written about uh twenty, six, twenty-seven years ago, call fewer that laid every bit of the South and how it was going to work out, and that's the way it's working out. So we've got some trends working our way, and we'll get through this. We'll get through this,

00:41:13.770 --> 00:41:37.299 Frank R. Harrison: you know it's interesting. I remember reading in the book about how a lot of people, especially during the pandemic, were living in such fear that they only focused on the moment, and the irony is is that the moment is what you can focus on. But to be a futurist, to think positively about all the turbulence as being. Opportunity is what we, I guess, had either never learned or failed to learn, or were very,

00:41:37.310 --> 00:42:06.710 Frank R. Harrison: very unsure how to adapt to, and a lot of people relying on the past which only reinforces the negativity. So I guess there's a lot of mind-shifting or mind development work that everyone has to undertake, whether maybe by reading your book and getting some of the skills that you talk about to help in training the mind. I know that I have found myself in a lot of turbulent issues that I've been able, through my own talking myself down or getting my facts straight and looking at my options.

00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:12.579 Frank R. Harrison: It's allowed me to move forward, not as fast as I would have liked, but I know It's an issue of reframing

00:42:12.650 --> 00:42:37.359 Frank R. Harrison: from a positive outlook versus a negative one, which sounds like that. What you mentioned in the book is that people can think positive if they look at the future as a welcoming opportunity, and we have probably generations of people saying, Oh, Don't, think about the future now. It's too early.

00:42:37.370 --> 00:42:43.470 Larry Ben Lytle: You can't see it on, unfortunately on the screen. But the first three talk about data,

00:42:43.490 --> 00:42:51.759 Larry Ben Lytle: data, information and knowledge, and then wisdom. And now i'll explain what I reason. I ask you to hold it up.

00:42:51.950 --> 00:43:01.900 Larry Ben Lytle: Okay, what's happening at this. There's many things that I talk about in the book about. Why is this such a special time in history?

00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.820 Larry Ben Lytle: We're exiting the industrial age, the

00:43:05.610 --> 00:43:20.279 Larry Ben Lytle: and the Industrial age sort of took creative people and made them interchangeable parts like an assembly line. You know we were standardized, and that sort of. And Now we're about to go the other way, right

00:43:20.290 --> 00:43:26.059 Larry Ben Lytle: through the Internet and all the devices we've got, and the instant information,

00:43:26.160 --> 00:43:31.539 Larry Ben Lytle: information and knowledge and data is becoming a commodity.

00:43:31.720 --> 00:43:34.370 Larry Ben Lytle: It's immediately available to everyone.

00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:41.049 Larry Ben Lytle: We we've got a. Our education system has been built around teaching that.

00:43:41.270 --> 00:43:50.449 Larry Ben Lytle: Now we're going to be able to focus not on that on the data and the information and the knowledge, but how to use it. Well,

00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:56.760 Larry Ben Lytle: that that's wisdom and going to your specific point. What is wisdom?

00:43:57.030 --> 00:44:00.070 Larry Ben Lytle: Wisdom is the art of living well,

00:44:00.270 --> 00:44:16.399 Larry Ben Lytle: and it it comes in two specific parts. The first is perspective. So what you do exactly what you said when you're down and you're stuck in what's happening right now around you. You can't see the way forward

00:44:17.030 --> 00:44:28.639 Larry Ben Lytle: you, because you're you're trapped down here. And so the first thing you you learn to do is you learn to elevate yourself above the the the current

00:44:28.970 --> 00:44:31.220 Larry Ben Lytle: right back in history,

00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:45.610 Larry Ben Lytle: and about where we come from, and what times have we faced similar to this? What can we learn from that? Now? Look at the present, see its similarities, and then look forward

00:44:45.860 --> 00:45:03.049 Frank R. Harrison: and then um, and they mean right right. We have to take our final break. But that's exactly what we'll talk about in our final section, which is how we can use that wisdom and all look forward. So please stay tuned as we're here, with the potentialist right here on Frank about health.

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00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:05.760 Frank R. Harrison: welcome back to this final segment of this episode of Frank about health.

00:47:05.770 --> 00:47:35.760 Frank R. Harrison: I basically found myself with a list of questions to ask you, and during the entire forty five minutes you answer the most, most of them. So I think you are definitely what your bio has said. You're an excellent speaker. You're definitely entrepreneurial minded. I'm inspired by you personally. And so I definitely look forward to speaking, you know, beyond the program. But I I also wanted to continue our discussion that we ended the last segment with about that chart of all the way up to wisdom, because this is about the

00:47:35.770 --> 00:47:54.199 Frank R. Harrison: of the next thirty years, as we are living, and at the same time, as your book suggests. So, aside from getting the wisdom and being able to adapt and change and help, teach our youngsters about how to do the same. What else would you say is evolving from this revolution, this industrial revolution?

00:47:54.210 --> 00:48:01.320 Larry Ben Lytle: Yeah, I I think, uh one, Frank, Is that there? What i'm trying to point there to is that

00:48:01.330 --> 00:48:23.709 Larry Ben Lytle: we're We're gonna We're gonna move first to to truly universal education. We're gonna we're gonna find a way to educate everybody in the world far better than we have in the past. Uh, and and and we're going to be able to teach uh people how to make better decisions, which is wisdom. First, as I was explaining, you gain perspective,

00:48:23.720 --> 00:48:41.780 Larry Ben Lytle: and then you use that expanded perspective to make better decisions. That's what it is, and that can be talked now, going and going back to you know people will say to me, Well, you know how do you? How do you do? Those kind of. You know, huge global things. How can you suddenly make

00:48:41.790 --> 00:48:52.359 Larry Ben Lytle: quality education worldwide and and and I will introduce a term to you. Imagine global.

00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.200 Larry Ben Lytle: He spoke

00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.999 Larry Ben Lytle: meaning custom tailored to me

00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:02.040 Larry Ben Lytle: lifelong learning. Imagine that

00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:18.109 Larry Ben Lytle: now. Why, why, how is something like that possible, or how do you? And then and through that? Then How do you? You know you teach wisdom what we have, these incredible technologies? Now the cloud,

00:49:18.150 --> 00:49:34.200 Larry Ben Lytle: first of all, which is at which we now have five billion people of about seven and a half who have access to the cloud, and we will within the next decade. Everyone in the world will have that

00:49:34.210 --> 00:49:46.690 Larry Ben Lytle: today roughly about the same number. Maybe four. Something will have smartphones, and by then they will all have smartphones or something better, and i'll mention the something better in a minute,

00:49:46.700 --> 00:49:56.090 Larry Ben Lytle: and we've got artificial intelligence which, from A from a entrepreneur, our businessperson standpoint.

00:49:56.190 --> 00:50:20.530 Larry Ben Lytle: It is a marble what it can do, because it's it. It allows you to develop very complex systems in a fraction of the time for a fraction of the cost. I was an it, guy I came up, you know. I started programming. I was sixteen years old, came all way through to be chief Information officer before I became a chief uh operating officer and a President and a Ceo

00:50:20.540 --> 00:50:31.870 Larry Ben Lytle: and I'm. Staying very close to technology. And this is a true revolution in what we can do, because we not only develop systems faster, but the systems learn,

00:50:32.420 --> 00:50:40.580 Larry Ben Lytle: and once the systems learn, they don't have to be constantly maintained and altered like they did in the past. They literally adapt.

00:50:40.700 --> 00:50:58.809 Larry Ben Lytle: Ah, so so what? And and one other huge technology change that's going to create the opportunity to to do what's called democratize, meaning making things that are available today to a few,

00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:16.639 Larry Ben Lytle: to many, and ultimately to everyone. Those are democratizing innovations, and that's not a new term. I mean, it's not a new thing it goes back to the invention of writing was was a democratizing innovation. The printing press democratized books which in turn

00:51:16.650 --> 00:51:21.970 Larry Ben Lytle: democratize the demand for literacy which in turn democratized the demand for public education.

00:51:22.020 --> 00:51:27.480 Larry Ben Lytle: So that's how these things create. Create a create momentum,

00:51:27.520 --> 00:51:38.879 Larry Ben Lytle: so that so the cloud artificial education, And I want to mention one other technology. And then, of course, if we were talking medical innovations, that's a whole nother show.

00:51:38.890 --> 00:51:49.369 Larry Ben Lytle: So which I think we're going to end up having right. But on technology. The big one of the big changes coming

00:51:49.750 --> 00:52:09.199 Larry Ben Lytle: is that in since I've been in it, So I've been in it over fifty years. Ah! And more than that, almost almost sixty five years, and and one thing has not changed with all the incredible Ah! Innovations and speed and capacity that we've got

00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:25.509 Larry Ben Lytle: is that we still my brain, your brain, everybody's brain is one of the most powerful computers. It is an incredibly powerful computer. Science still can't figure out quite how it works. And on the other side the cloud. Think of the cloud,

00:52:25.520 --> 00:52:32.789 Larry Ben Lytle: almost unlimited computing power, almost unlimited computing power. The

00:52:32.820 --> 00:52:35.890 Larry Ben Lytle: Now what separates us today?

00:52:36.750 --> 00:52:39.069 Larry Ben Lytle: How fast I can type,

00:52:39.100 --> 00:52:41.670 Larry Ben Lytle: how fast I can read a screen.

00:52:42.100 --> 00:52:48.679 Larry Ben Lytle: That's an archaic connection. Imagine if we didn't have to time. Why should typing?

00:52:48.820 --> 00:52:53.680 Larry Ben Lytle: You know, control how fast I can communicate with the computer and my brain with it,

00:52:53.700 --> 00:53:13.530 Larry Ben Lytle: and how and and and how fast I can read, and then, of course, it keeps on an enormous number of people in the world from being able to access computing because they don't know how to type. They don't know how to, and they don't know how they perhaps they don't read Well, you know, so so so we change that

00:53:13.540 --> 00:53:17.930 Larry Ben Lytle: that's a transformational change in humanity, not just in technology

00:53:18.060 --> 00:53:19.459 Larry Ben Lytle: that's coming.

00:53:19.660 --> 00:53:33.249 Larry Ben Lytle: It's coming by either voice. So like a super, siri that we just tell it what we want. And so in my own language, if i'm an aboriginal, and in the Brazilian range forest, I can tell it what I want, and i'll get it right

00:53:33.260 --> 00:53:50.329 Larry Ben Lytle: all right and ah! And then ah! And then the the but but also it's very likely, or everyone's where the predictions are. We will find a way to safely. Ah! And ah! Connect our brains to the cloud

00:53:51.020 --> 00:54:10.129 Larry Ben Lytle: directly to the cloud. So it doesn't mean none of us are going to allow. Chip put in our head. That's not going to happen now. They're They're doing that for people who have muscular skeletal diseases and so forth to help them overcome it. That's they. They're actually doing that right now. There's fourteen companies that my last count

00:54:10.220 --> 00:54:16.429 Larry Ben Lytle: working directly on in in planning chips to help people overcome disease now.

00:54:16.510 --> 00:54:29.640 Larry Ben Lytle: Uh, but but this is different. This is saying. Imagine I like to imagine it as the the the smartphone, so I can turn it off. I can mute it. I can control what I do with it, but now it's behind my ear.

00:54:29.860 --> 00:54:37.709 Larry Ben Lytle: It's just a piece behind my ear, and maybe all I have to do is speak and tell it what I want, or even at some point. I just think it

00:54:38.230 --> 00:54:43.629 Larry Ben Lytle: so. That's what That's where we're headed, and when that happens.

00:54:43.640 --> 00:55:00.679 Larry Ben Lytle: Uh, that changes the world like nothing before, because we can think and operate at a speed we could never imagine. Ever. I zoom. That's what your two books coming out are going to cover. I mean, you said one was in two thousand and twenty-three, and another one in two thousand and twenty four.

00:55:00.690 --> 00:55:17.729 Larry Ben Lytle: Yeah, no, it I it's not not really what I'm what the this first book is all about how we develop. Ah, the skills, and quite frankly, the the wisdom to to, to, to adapt to this an enormous technological change that's coming.

00:55:17.740 --> 00:55:35.849 Larry Ben Lytle: The second book says How it goes into detail on. How do you actually pursue your potential? How do you discover? How do you find it? And then the third book says, Why do high potential people blow up The second books call the pursuit. The potential is to

00:55:35.860 --> 00:55:43.890 Larry Ben Lytle: their pursuit of potential at the pursuit of wisdom. I'm sorry, because wisdom is the highest human achievement. The

00:55:44.040 --> 00:55:46.999 Larry Ben Lytle: that is someone at their peak.

00:55:47.120 --> 00:56:03.339 Larry Ben Lytle: And and the third book is, How do high potential people blow it up? How do they? How do they? How do they lose their chance at their potential because it's it's. Oddly enough, it's pretty predictable, and that one is called predator and prey.

00:56:03.900 --> 00:56:30.459 Frank R. Harrison: Now, Ben, I I hate to cut you short, because we are definitely going to have to do a second show, because you miss the opportunity to speak with my co-host Phyllis Quinlan, who has, i'm sure a lot of questions related to it. But, ladies and gentlemen again, go to Amazon, dot com and buy this book right now, when you get the chance. It is a must read and a guide, especially if you're trying to go through a lot of re reorganization after what we've just been through the last two and a half years,

00:56:30.470 --> 00:57:00.459 Frank R. Harrison: Ben, I'm going to call you back as soon as possible, so we can actually schedule the next show, and ladies and gentlemen stay tuned for our Friday slative shows, which are always Friday and philanthropy and focus right here on talk radio and Nyc: So thank you for being here at this episode of Frank about health. I'll be seeing you again next week, that all being said, Thank you, Ben, for being on the show, and I'm. I'm still reading the book, even even this weekend. Because Um, yeah, I've been a student as well as someone who spoke with you about

00:57:00.470 --> 00:57:05.129 Larry Ben Lytle: this excellent book. So thank you again for being here, you bet. Thank you

00:57:05.390 --> 00:57:17.010 All right. Thank you, Sam, for everything and overall

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