Frank About Health

Thursday, August 11, 2022
Facebook Live Video from 2022/08/11 - Frank About Health's 50th Episode

Facebook Live Video from 2022/08/11 - Frank About Health's 50th Episode


2022/08/11 - Frank About Health's 50th Episode

[NEW EPISODE] Frank About Health's 50th Episode


They will get to see what is ahead for the show including upcoming episodes.


Frank About Health has shown during 50 episodes the importance of understanding your health so you can learn to advocate for your best treatment and openly discuss your views with your family, friends, colleagues and medical team on how you intend to live your best life. 

James Swanson will be on hand to have an open discussion about the show's direction and the partnerships it has made to move the discussion towards preventative care while using new technologies and platforms to educate, inform and advocate.


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Show Notes

Segment 1

James Swanson joins Frank today to talk about technology innovations in the healthcare system. James talks about how the way technology is going right now, and how in the future we might go away from the idea of taking pills and changing your body chemistry. He talks about the advancement in surgeries, and how another approach to curing diseases can be by rearranging DNA. James also speaks about his take on mental health issues in relation to innovation. He talks about the increase in remote therapies that a number of people are taking such as physiological counseling, and coaching, and how it has increased partially because the isolation of Covid, but also partially because technology has enabled people to meet face to face without having to physically drive or get on a train, making this type of healthcare more affordable for people, and more people are accessing this healthcare. He also gives examples of how and why online support groups are skyrocketing.

Segment 2

After the break, James and Frank start off talking about Equine therapy and how when people are around animals, there is a calming effect on the neurological electric pathways. Afterwards, Frank shared his opinions on the price sensitivities towards medicines in the U.S. and how they are so much cheaper in places such as Europe, and how his personal experiences made him want to fight for lower prescription costs. James chimes in about how terrible the issue of affordability of healthcare is.

Segment 3

James and Frank talk about the new healthcare bill being passed in America. Afterwards, they discuss James’s take on informatics, and how these sites such as Ancestry and 23 & Me are now able to do such massive data searches and how they are becoming repositories of genetic information and genetically inherited diseases. James expresses how people should generally be optimistic that the diseases that are prevalent today may not be with us in a generation, and how Crisper and altering DNA comes into play with that.

Segment 4

James and Frank talk about the idea of nutrition becoming more important in the future of healthcare. Frank then closes off the podcast.


00:00:56.700 --> 00:01:07.380 Frank R. Harrison: hey everybody and welcome to the 50th episode of frank about health I like to give a shout out to Sam congratulating me on this Thank you again Sam as you've always known.

00:01:07.860 --> 00:01:12.810 Frank R. Harrison: there's no frank about health without the conscious consultant, because when we met in 2016.

00:01:13.260 --> 00:01:21.420 Frank R. Harrison: When I was there to talk about was epilepsy If you recall faces finding a cure for epilepsy and seizures with the nyu language and health system.

00:01:21.780 --> 00:01:35.880 Frank R. Harrison: That was the impetus for frank about health and of course it has grown leaps and bounds, especially this past year by introducing topics, not just about epilepsy, but about cannabis treatments for epilepsy talking about alternative healthcare treatments in general, the coven.

00:01:36.930 --> 00:01:46.950 Frank R. Harrison: coming up with new methodologies for treating various disorders from diabetes to cancer to HIV, AIDS we've had some memorial tribute shows like for Betty white.

00:01:47.220 --> 00:01:56.580 Frank R. Harrison: we've had some influencers from talk radio dot nyc like Georgia and TAO, we also had phyllis come as a co host first as a guest phyllis Quinlan.

00:01:56.910 --> 00:02:03.930 Frank R. Harrison: Who is not here with us today, but is definitely going to be with us next week for a two hour special which we'll talk about more later.

00:02:04.290 --> 00:02:14.820 Frank R. Harrison: But the thing is, is that I brought with me on this particular show James swanson because, whether anyone is aware, he is part of the legacy of frank about health.

00:02:15.180 --> 00:02:20.610 Frank R. Harrison: And that's, especially because of his daughter Danielle swanson, who is a very dear friend of mine i've known for 13 years.

00:02:20.970 --> 00:02:30.480 Frank R. Harrison: or so shares in the melody of epilepsy she's had her treatment modalities that have worked for i've also learned from her in terms of treatment modalities available to me.

00:02:30.810 --> 00:02:35.130 Frank R. Harrison: But we've been able to really learn a lot from each other and to understand that in.

00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:49.020 Frank R. Harrison: Each of our own healthcare experiences we each become influencers of our own health care needs and what we want to do is share that information to all the listeners and viewers out there, so that each of us can take ownership over.

00:02:49.500 --> 00:02:53.400 Frank R. Harrison: What is going to be affecting us in our health care in our quality of life.

00:02:53.940 --> 00:03:05.880 Frank R. Harrison: This past two and a half years with coven 19 has opened up many people's eyes in terms of what are the solutions out there for healthcare issues, whether they involve medicines, whether they involve certain.

00:03:06.510 --> 00:03:17.580 Frank R. Harrison: Professionals that you work with specialist primary care physicians also the alternative treatment methodologies that exists and then we've also had guests that have overcome such such.

00:03:17.970 --> 00:03:31.620 Frank R. Harrison: Try challenges like selling health spa who has been on the show three times and overcame multiple myeloma while dealing with the challenge of trying to combat covert 19 while still in recovery and.

00:03:32.160 --> 00:03:37.290 Frank R. Harrison: there's just so much that i've learned from being on this show that i'm starting this.

00:03:37.770 --> 00:03:42.660 Frank R. Harrison: 50th episode with not only a retrospective but also what our plans are going forward.

00:03:43.020 --> 00:03:51.870 Frank R. Harrison: And James swanson is here to help be tell that story with all of you today and also let's go over some of the information that he's already shared on the show.

00:03:52.560 --> 00:04:00.660 Frank R. Harrison: James swanson is a chartered financial analyst and has a history of being known in the Boston area and working with mutual fund.

00:04:00.990 --> 00:04:08.430 Frank R. Harrison: and investment companies in the healthcare space and technology space as well and i'm going to also before I read introduce him.

00:04:08.760 --> 00:04:17.130 Frank R. Harrison: i'm going to issue my official disclaimer that any of the topics and information shared on this episode between myself and James are not meant.

00:04:17.520 --> 00:04:24.840 Frank R. Harrison: to deter or prevent all of you out there who are using the appropriate medical medical care provider or medical treatment.

00:04:25.140 --> 00:04:33.180 Frank R. Harrison: we're not trying to make you change it or tell you not to continue using the things that are continuing to maintain your quality of life.

00:04:33.570 --> 00:04:39.630 Frank R. Harrison: We are just issuing information to have thoughtful conversation about topics that are.

00:04:40.140 --> 00:04:49.620 Frank R. Harrison: Open ended food for thought for you to process and, hopefully, they can provide you with some insight and awareness as to how to further treat your health care issues.

00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:55.860 Frank R. Harrison: or for those of your loved ones that are in treatment, right now, for whatever is concerning their health care needs.

00:04:56.460 --> 00:05:02.940 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, that being said, James, thank you for coming back to frank about health for the 50th episode.

00:05:03.510 --> 00:05:15.360 Frank R. Harrison: I hate gave a whole description just now, but there was no way that I could have just introduced you without giving my appreciation for not only Danielle but also for.

00:05:15.960 --> 00:05:22.680 Frank R. Harrison: Janet who's been here talking about narcissism and yourself talking about all the technology innovations in the healthcare system.

00:05:23.760 --> 00:05:39.960 James Swanson: Well, congratulations to a lot, but I think you're going to another 50 will probably go pretty quickly and i'm just excited about the changes in medicine and the convergence of medicine and technology, this is a fantastic time to have a show like frank about it all.

00:05:40.890 --> 00:05:49.380 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, and it was kind of funny when I started with talk radio in yc we were also in studio at the time and, as you can imagine, when.

00:05:49.740 --> 00:05:57.750 Frank R. Harrison: zoom technology was born, for all of us, especially during the pandemic, this has now become a complete virtual network and.

00:05:58.170 --> 00:06:07.350 Frank R. Harrison: You know, social media has become highly influential in the healthcare system so i'm even excited at the fact that i've changed with the whole direction.

00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:14.100 Frank R. Harrison: of how everything is predominantly virtual because we can reach each other quicker and share the information and innovations.

00:06:14.640 --> 00:06:18.870 Frank R. Harrison: Even more in real time than ever before you know so.

00:06:19.650 --> 00:06:39.840 Frank R. Harrison: It, what is your take though on innovation as a whole, do you think it is the driving force of finding cures and solutions, or is it more of a way to maintain quality of life in a quicker way is it a changer a disrupter or is it more of an add on with whatever existing tribes.

00:06:39.840 --> 00:06:42.180 James Swanson: I think we're seeing total disruption.

00:06:42.210 --> 00:06:58.110 James Swanson: And in fact the area that you're most intimate with epilepsy is usually treated with medicines pills that tend to slow down the brainwaves it, it tends and that tends to be the basic treatment.

00:06:59.430 --> 00:07:07.140 James Swanson: To also impair the functioning of many of these people who are sometimes in refractory cases on two or three or sometimes for medicines.

00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.170 James Swanson: The way technology is going now.

00:07:10.200 --> 00:07:30.840 James Swanson: With interventions and inserts and electrodes and refined robotic surgery in the brain that we may get away from the whole idea of taking pills and changing your body chemistry and going this whole different direction and that's what's exciting to me.

00:07:32.310 --> 00:07:51.180 Frank R. Harrison: Well, so, then I guess then like you said it's more of a disruption, but then is the technology used to minimize the amount of surgical intervention, or is it to integrate it with other kinds of let's say genetic solutions or other kinds of solutions that are technology very innovative.

00:07:51.630 --> 00:07:58.830 James Swanson: Well it's a proliferation of things, I mean just look what's going on and I happen to live in the Boston area I know in New York, but.

00:07:59.730 --> 00:08:07.770 James Swanson: The advent of crisper technology here the gene editing editing devices and algorithms that are being used.

00:08:08.730 --> 00:08:20.430 James Swanson: I have attended labs at Dana farber children's hospital here in Boston where they use these tiny little fish little angel fish and silver fish.

00:08:20.730 --> 00:08:35.250 James Swanson: That have three year lifespans and they inject them with genes that clause epilepsy observed as yours and then go back in and rearrange the genetic composition of the fish, so that the fish are are seizure free.

00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:39.780 James Swanson: This is the type of thing I use that as an example of where.

00:08:39.780 --> 00:08:45.390 James Swanson: This again they're the fish stage but it's very promising for people so.

00:08:47.040 --> 00:08:57.360 Frank R. Harrison: I guess then assuming it got to the human stage at some point in the future, I presume that trying to change the coding the genetic coding would happen in utero.

00:08:58.770 --> 00:09:07.440 James Swanson: Well, I don't know enough about medicine to know that I just you know follow these companies that do this and what they tell me, but that sounds like a possibility.

00:09:08.370 --> 00:09:15.990 Frank R. Harrison: wow and then I remember when Janet came in to the show to talk about narcissism I mean it was bordering.

00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:31.560 Frank R. Harrison: on mental health and domestic violence and I figure sometimes it's not like medicine or any other kind of genetic innovation can actually alter something that's more of a psychological paradigm or.

00:09:32.820 --> 00:09:43.080 Frank R. Harrison: Something that has been written about for for decades and hundreds of years, but what is your take on mental health issues in relation to innovation.

00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:51.300 James Swanson: Well, one of them is one you've already alluded to zoom because of the acceleration of remote.

00:09:52.380 --> 00:10:04.920 James Swanson: therapies, the number of people taking first of all, psychological counseling right now coaching mental health counseling.

00:10:05.550 --> 00:10:11.880 James Swanson: has increased dramatically, partly because the isolation of covert but, partly because technology has enabled.

00:10:12.300 --> 00:10:21.750 James Swanson: people to meet face to face like we are now without how you drive or get out of train, and this is made.

00:10:22.410 --> 00:10:27.840 James Swanson: This type of health care more affordable for people and more people are taking this kind of health care.

00:10:28.350 --> 00:10:38.970 James Swanson: And you know you just mentioned narcissism they people have talked about it for years, but never been able to reach out to people and say, these are the identifying points of narcissism.

00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:47.190 James Swanson: don't let yourself be fooled by if you're in a relationship, you have the tools to get out and they're all these support groups now.

00:10:47.610 --> 00:10:59.340 James Swanson: That have coalesced around the Tele health community that are being referred to by the telehealth me just say we're here to help you if you're in a dangerous situation, this is saving lives, too, and many words.

00:11:00.660 --> 00:11:12.090 Frank R. Harrison: Trusting it almost sounds like that, where technology has put various people with various conditions, whether it is epilepsy mental health or even addiction let's say.

00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:21.870 Frank R. Harrison: You know when Tele health communities are born and people feel that they're gathering with like minded individuals probably suffering from some of the same maladies.

00:11:22.290 --> 00:11:30.270 Frank R. Harrison: That there is the sense of community that is now generated to help give them the support system that they probably traditionally lacked or were not able.

00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:48.120 Frank R. Harrison: To bring together, especially from remote locations, but at the same time isn't there a concern that it takes away some of the human connection while still gaining the support necessary and when that have a negative impact as well or it's just like a catch 22.

00:11:48.420 --> 00:11:58.260 James Swanson: I think it's a way of alternatives and pluses and minuses but the number of people in now support groups is increased so dramatically.

00:11:58.800 --> 00:12:03.660 James Swanson: That you have to think the socialization they're getting and the support from these people.

00:12:03.990 --> 00:12:10.770 James Swanson: Is offsetting the fact that then they're not there in person and remember in the case of women or men to and abusive relationships.

00:12:11.160 --> 00:12:17.670 James Swanson: They feel they can't get out and their spouses sometimes say you can't you're not going to go to a support group you're staying home tonight.

00:12:18.150 --> 00:12:33.000 James Swanson: And now, they can just go to their bedroom and sign in on zoom and get the support they need, so I know I think people who are in very difficult relationships know you mentioned one but narcissism abuse.

00:12:33.330 --> 00:12:35.520 Frank R. Harrison: domination violence, yes.

00:12:35.970 --> 00:12:40.050 James Swanson: This is opened up new ways for them to get out and get help.

00:12:41.610 --> 00:12:49.920 Frank R. Harrison: And it's very interesting, you know it's funny having dealt with the past year and helping to resolve personal, family issues all dealing with either cancer care or.

00:12:50.250 --> 00:12:56.220 Frank R. Harrison: or having to deal with other issues like I think i've told you a story about my cousin who's needed to I surgery, the last year.

00:12:56.580 --> 00:13:06.120 Frank R. Harrison: The thing is, is that if it wasn't for zoom technology or if it wasn't for the convenience of managing the process necessary claim forms and everything through email and.

00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:11.880 Frank R. Harrison: And digitally through the mobile phone or whatever, none of the help that I was able to provide.

00:13:12.270 --> 00:13:20.280 Frank R. Harrison: would have happened it just would have been impossible, you know, so I think that, while a lot of people are looking at technology somehow.

00:13:20.580 --> 00:13:29.580 Frank R. Harrison: As a little bit of a threat, and at the same time could possibly provide some negative outcomes, especially when you're not in the same room with your doctor or with.

00:13:29.940 --> 00:13:38.160 Frank R. Harrison: A person suffering from the same issue, I think you've also added the secret sauce of how it helps people to escape very troubling situations.

00:13:38.370 --> 00:13:45.810 Frank R. Harrison: So at least it provides the middle of the road, the Gray area, so to speak, that we all have to learn to use technology with and.

00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:57.120 Frank R. Harrison: tolerate more rather than than having the constant anxiety that probably builds up from the feeling of how am I going to get out of this or how am I going to be able to get to the other side when.

00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:02.700 Frank R. Harrison: Probably we're all on the same journey somehow with various pathways but that we all can converge.

00:14:03.300 --> 00:14:08.250 Frank R. Harrison: Like maybe on a show like this, or maybe even just in general and being able to communicate.

00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:16.290 Frank R. Harrison: What our needs are and how to be able to further find the solutions to the problems that they have either been living with for such a long time.

00:14:16.650 --> 00:14:30.660 Frank R. Harrison: or only starting now to face and having to find some solution to deal with, and, as you probably see we're getting the disclaimer that we have a minute left before our first break, but when we return, I want to hear about the other swanson that hasn't been on the show.

00:14:31.830 --> 00:14:42.300 Frank R. Harrison: And, ladies and gentlemen, again just to recap James swanson is the father of Danielle swanson who's been with me on this show talking about epilepsy and cannabis and.

00:14:42.660 --> 00:14:52.650 Frank R. Harrison: other kinds of alternatives, and he himself James swanson has talked with me about innovation in healthcare which he's also spent the last 15 minutes doing.

00:14:53.070 --> 00:15:00.180 Frank R. Harrison: But when we return we're going to talk about Jenny swanson who's into equine therapy and that's something that I definitely want.

00:15:00.510 --> 00:15:13.920 Frank R. Harrison: To have her come on the show, at a later time in the next few weeks or so and we'll learn more about her when we return right here on this 50th episode of frank about health, both on talk radio dot nyc and Facebook live, so please stay tuned.

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00:17:27.060 --> 00:17:33.060 Frank R. Harrison: hey everybody and welcome back, overall I just found out some news that here on frank about help.

00:17:33.780 --> 00:17:45.660 Frank R. Harrison: Out of five stars I got 4.8 from my listening audience on Facebook Thank you out there for all of you that have been listening to this show, especially I think I started Facebook eight weeks into my return.

00:17:46.290 --> 00:17:55.170 Frank R. Harrison: Talk radio nyc but i'm just grateful to all of you out there who have been writing to me on email, as well as making comments on our various shows.

00:17:55.560 --> 00:18:03.360 Frank R. Harrison: and helping me diversify the show from like I said earlier, which was predominantly an epilepsy advocacy program to coven 19.

00:18:03.690 --> 00:18:11.820 Frank R. Harrison: And now really branching out into really looking into a healthier future for all of us, whether it's through technology or platforms like this.

00:18:12.180 --> 00:18:19.620 Frank R. Harrison: That would be able to have all of us learn from each other, as we continue to deal with whatever healthcare issues are plaguing us.

00:18:20.340 --> 00:18:27.930 Frank R. Harrison: But as we were just signing off before our break I was mentioning how James has another daughter named Jenny swanson away I have yet to me.

00:18:28.260 --> 00:18:41.100 Frank R. Harrison: But I understand, she is a social worker and has worked with equine horse horses and equine therapy for people with various disorders, I think, particularly James their children right or is it a mix of people.

00:18:42.450 --> 00:18:53.040 James Swanson: it's a mix but mostly children and it stems from jenny's basic love of other people she's always been trying to help people and a love of animals.

00:18:53.550 --> 00:18:54.030 Frank R. Harrison: and

00:18:54.120 --> 00:19:08.850 James Swanson: he's been able to combine these two in her social work career, both with horses helping children who have spectrum related neurological a typical issues and also sports.

00:19:09.750 --> 00:19:19.170 James Swanson: psychology people being able to and unable to perform like Simone biles at the Chinese Olympics, just two years ago had a breakdown in the middle of the.

00:19:19.770 --> 00:19:35.220 James Swanson: event and Jenny deals with people who have this negative chatter in their brain that prevents them from excelling at sports and the other half of her work is with traumatized children so she's got two very interesting things going on.

00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:53.010 Frank R. Harrison: Great great so how is it that she works with the horses and those children together is it virtually who is it on a farm is it, she actually has two children come ride the horses, can you explain how that type of work that she does.

00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:53.640 Frank R. Harrison: The Church.

00:19:53.670 --> 00:20:01.560 James Swanson: Levels two different places, including there's a town called Wellington Florida, where she spent several months, a year, and she meets with the children.

00:20:02.190 --> 00:20:09.510 James Swanson: And does this therapy work which is, I think, very interesting a combination of cvt cognitive behavioral therapy and.

00:20:10.050 --> 00:20:20.820 James Swanson: Other new sort of newer approaches to you know getting people to be centered to have confidence in themselves and.

00:20:21.540 --> 00:20:35.850 James Swanson: she's brought a lot of her reputations growing because parents talk to other parents and say this is really helped my child, you know and so it's at different barns Jenny doesn't have her own barn but she's knowledgeable about the horse world.

00:20:37.080 --> 00:20:43.110 Frank R. Harrison: that's interesting so if this is part of her work as a social worker as well, or this is independent of that.

00:20:43.500 --> 00:20:56.730 James Swanson: No it's part of her work as a social worker and she's pursuing a PhD in sports psychology in addition to the fact, she has a master's in social work trauma social work.

00:20:57.180 --> 00:21:12.030 James Swanson: and social work slash sports therapy so she's licensed in all of these and she's pursuing a PhD so she'll be a clinician as well as a researcher, but she should be getting her PhD in two years, so.

00:21:13.410 --> 00:21:14.670 amazing sorry.

00:21:15.900 --> 00:21:33.930 Frank R. Harrison: What was the what was the impetus for her to become focused on trauma, in particular, was it particular mental issues like like, for example, ptsd or was it bipolar disorder or was it epilepsy related or what was there any other kind of concerns she was interested in.

00:21:34.110 --> 00:21:44.430 James Swanson: When when she was very young, she witnessed the sudden onset of her sister's illness, which was a horrifying traumatic for a four year old two is four and a half.

00:21:45.180 --> 00:22:01.530 James Swanson: And ever since then I think she's had a keen appreciation not everyone's neurologically typical and there's a lot of spectrum issues of all kinds out there and I think that made her want to help other people that's how I think it developed.

00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:09.090 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, I agree, I agree, I mean knowing Danielle is I have, I mean I think i've already expressed this to you that.

00:22:09.510 --> 00:22:21.930 Frank R. Harrison: A lot of the motivation for me to start my various healthcare ventures, especially this show has been my meeting with her in Italy, back in 2009 when she was helping me find a branded version.

00:22:22.350 --> 00:22:34.590 Frank R. Harrison: Of a medication that was available for the equivalent of 120 US dollars without insurance and the whole knowledge that you can get a branded drug in Europe.

00:22:34.950 --> 00:22:39.780 Frank R. Harrison: Without having these price sensitivities that we face here in the United States.

00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:47.640 Frank R. Harrison: led me to take on a mission of trying to fight for lower prescription costs, I could see just in general, how.

00:22:48.090 --> 00:22:59.520 Frank R. Harrison: Danielle and, of course, their sisters so there's obviously that loving bond right there that could just be a motivation to really pursue the kind of healthcare work that that Jenny has been doing the past several years.

00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:01.170 Frank R. Harrison: Is there.

00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:01.980 Frank R. Harrison: Also.

00:23:02.250 --> 00:23:02.940 Frank R. Harrison: i'm sorry good.

00:23:03.150 --> 00:23:15.060 James Swanson: side note is that Danielle and johnny's mom when Danielle got sick her mom had to learn to navigate the system to get the best health care at the lowest price.

00:23:15.570 --> 00:23:27.780 James Swanson: And Dan know learned from her mom and it's still a struggle to this day to some of Daniels medicines without the way she has it structured would be 60,000 year most families.

00:23:28.170 --> 00:23:37.830 James Swanson: can't afford that, luckily she doesn't have to pay that she's on a very good state program but this whole issue of affordability of how healthcare is very real.

00:23:40.020 --> 00:23:49.410 Frank R. Harrison: I can speak to that too, and as you remember when we did our last show, together with phyllis Jose Dennis had appeared on the show talking about his prescription drugs and.

00:23:50.040 --> 00:23:56.730 Frank R. Harrison: I had helped him to find a solution through a Canadian pharmacy that actually was a guest on this show, about a year ago, but.

00:23:57.420 --> 00:24:08.970 Frank R. Harrison: that's where he's getting his medicine today branded drugs from Canada, I mean there are obviously many alternatives that we all have to seek when we're given costs prohibitions and restrictions that come from.

00:24:09.900 --> 00:24:16.560 Frank R. Harrison: whatever reason, I mean i'm not in a position to find out what that reason is, but at least the whole point of.

00:24:17.010 --> 00:24:23.010 Frank R. Harrison: Looking and observing at whether it's your own illness or other people's illnesses and coming up with the solutions.

00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:33.960 Frank R. Harrison: On your own and having them as effective as possible, I guess, is the way we all have to look at illness in general, especially traumatic illness, you know i'm.

00:24:34.350 --> 00:24:41.790 Frank R. Harrison: i'm interested, though, to also understand, maybe this is my mind I Eva today because I don't work with any support animals in my life but.

00:24:42.300 --> 00:24:51.420 Frank R. Harrison: I always wondered, and it was intrigued how the horse is known as a very therapeutic animal for children, or even a therapeutic.

00:24:51.870 --> 00:25:01.170 Frank R. Harrison: Animal for people with mental illness, can it can you explain a little bit, I know, without a Jenny actually being here to describe it i'd like to know what your take is on it.

00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:07.050 James Swanson: Well, one of the things they've discovered by doing brain imagery with.

00:25:08.340 --> 00:25:18.990 James Swanson: fmri scans of the brain when children, particularly children but adults to are near animals dogs, cats and particularly horses.

00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:30.810 James Swanson: there's a calming effect on the neurological electric pathways particularly I think it's the amygdala where a lot of stress is usually manifested and it tends to calm.

00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:42.630 James Swanson: And there's also something about our neurological brains, that if we can master something that includes physical output like on a horse, you have to balance.

00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:50.070 James Swanson: You have to use your eyes, you have to use your ears, you have to sense of horses reins and how to make it go left to right.

00:25:50.430 --> 00:26:03.600 James Swanson: there's something that then translates to mental benefits therapeutic benefits to people who have neurological disorders, or just personality problems like confidence and.

00:26:04.530 --> 00:26:17.070 James Swanson: Low self esteem these things seem to improve with certain animals, particularly horses and what she's also trying to do is bridge the gap because horses are expensive.

00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:27.810 James Swanson: To get access with children who don't have money to pay for a horse lesson to get access to all these farms where they have forces that are available, and that that is part of the challenge.

00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:33.840 Frank R. Harrison: Well, so that's also kind of the work that she's going to be doing it she's pursuing her sports medicine.

00:26:33.870 --> 00:26:47.460 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, PhD to wow that sounds very enterprising young woman, I really hope at some point during the next nine or so weeks we can able to a family reunion, with all the swanson's at some point but.

00:26:48.060 --> 00:26:52.860 Frank R. Harrison: You know, we are living in a virtual worlds that can be both you know, a schedule.

00:26:53.310 --> 00:26:59.730 Frank R. Harrison: Conflict producer or, at the same time, a very communal event it just depends on the timing and really getting everybody.

00:27:00.090 --> 00:27:11.190 Frank R. Harrison: Together, but like as you already know, for this particular episode of frank about health i'm trying to have a discussion with you on the past, and really steer the audience more towards where we're going in the future.

00:27:11.610 --> 00:27:23.340 Frank R. Harrison: You know, and then speaking of the future for those listeners out there who are interested to know how they could potentially get in contact with Jenny is there any information you could share, about how they can reach to her on a website or.

00:27:23.970 --> 00:27:25.020 Frank R. Harrison: email or something.

00:27:25.260 --> 00:27:34.680 James Swanson: The easiest thing would be instagram everyone seems to be on instagram J swans J swa and SS so.

00:27:35.100 --> 00:27:37.650 Frank R. Harrison: Jay thanks that is cool.

00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:46.980 James Swanson: That is cool find her there, and you see her licenses their pictures and she also has motivational messages every day for young people to instagram.

00:27:47.670 --> 00:27:53.220 Frank R. Harrison: very nice very nice that she does she have a website that I could just promote to people to actually.

00:27:53.310 --> 00:27:53.550 Frank R. Harrison: check.

00:27:53.610 --> 00:28:08.580 James Swanson: It out just so Jenny swanson Li sw just look for Jenny swanson Li sw that licensed social work and you should find it I can't remember the exact URL for it, but just Jenny swanson and look for her there.

00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:11.580 Frank R. Harrison: And I gather, it will be on Google searches as well.

00:28:11.670 --> 00:28:27.540 Frank R. Harrison: yeah okay So, ladies and gentlemen, that was a nice segment we just had seemed to be promoting future guests on the show hint hint but at the same time, part of the swanson family that has been very instrumental in bringing frank about health together.

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00:31:04.860 --> 00:31:15.180 Frank R. Harrison: Welcome back right now want to devote the next segment of the show to discussion with James about some of the issues that are affecting us all today in the healthcare system and.

00:31:15.510 --> 00:31:27.060 Frank R. Harrison: Somehow a little bit on the government level of For those of you who are watchers of speed C span all last weekend C span two in particular the sentence spent 20 hours.

00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:38.130 Frank R. Harrison: Negotiating all amendments in terms of the new inflation reduction act or IRA I guess you can call it, but it's, of course.

00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:48.120 Frank R. Harrison: An interesting bill from what we hear the House is going to be voting on it tomorrow in in in their chambers and more than likely it'll pass and.

00:31:48.870 --> 00:31:58.920 Frank R. Harrison: Our President President Biden will sign it through now some of the issues in there, I mean, aside from climate change and aside from inflation itself is the issue of prescription drugs.

00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:10.350 Frank R. Harrison: And in the issue of making sure that things like insolent can be paid for, and that the medicare system can actually help in negotiating pricing, with the prescription drug companies.

00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:20.640 Frank R. Harrison: That being said, again, this bill has not yet been become law, so I don't want to you know be Labor the conversation until things are said, and you know signed, sealed and delivered.

00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:35.370 Frank R. Harrison: But I thought, James you might have some insights into some of the pieces of legislation, especially when it comes to prescription drugs that maybe you'd like to just either ask or put out there for people to consider, especially as we watch this bill become law in the next few days.

00:32:36.360 --> 00:32:44.820 James Swanson: Well there's an interesting thing going on in general, and I just asked people to be open minded about it and the.

00:32:45.330 --> 00:32:52.260 James Swanson: argument seems to be in the press, you know make health care, affordable, but the question really is is who's to pay for it.

00:32:52.710 --> 00:33:03.480 James Swanson: Is it the government will the government really gets us money from the taxpayers, so how much should they tax the other people who are not sick to pay for those who are sick.

00:33:04.110 --> 00:33:13.830 James Swanson: and the bad guys are often painted as these pharmaceutical or MED tech companies, and I would point out just what happened with coven it's a stunning thing.

00:33:14.580 --> 00:33:22.410 James Swanson: But no time in history, has a new disease, then so effectively conquered by vaccines.

00:33:22.800 --> 00:33:33.390 James Swanson: It came from the private sector and it came from companies like moderna and Pfizer that do have a profit motive behind what they do i'm not saying that you know they.

00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:43.830 James Swanson: People should have to pay exorbitant prices for medicines but there's a fine balance between letting these companies charge for their products.

00:33:44.190 --> 00:33:55.950 James Swanson: To make money, so that they can then invest in their laboratories to come up with newer versions of in this case the seminar is the messenger RNA sorry and RNA.

00:33:57.300 --> 00:34:00.060 James Swanson: things which have really helped people and.

00:34:00.780 --> 00:34:14.250 James Swanson: So I think you have to, even though the pharmaceutical companies are often disparage say they've been a big factor in providing better health care for the world not not just people who might be sick.

00:34:14.730 --> 00:34:23.100 James Swanson: And I think we have to acknowledge is a fine line there and I know this bill is trying to get one of the biggest buyers of.

00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:38.490 James Swanson: Medical Products the medicare system, which is a huge part of the US Government is to have them use their leverage to argue for lower prices, and I think that's, at least for some drugs, and I know there's an exception for one.

00:34:39.600 --> 00:34:48.270 James Swanson: But I also think, with medicaid and private insurance, there are ways that families don't have the means to pay let's say for diabetes drugs.

00:34:48.630 --> 00:34:57.600 James Swanson: will be able to do it, there are workarounds out there, so i'm optimistic that the public will be served, but these companies also have to have some breathing room.

00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.950 James Swanson: To invest in r&d to come up with new answers in the future.

00:35:03.120 --> 00:35:11.340 Frank R. Harrison: Right it's kind of interesting because I guess at some level it's it could be a country specific way of doing business in the healthcare space.

00:35:11.580 --> 00:35:20.130 Frank R. Harrison: Like We talked earlier about the example of how Europe under prices because they have other organizations behind their government, like the euro government.

00:35:20.490 --> 00:35:28.800 Frank R. Harrison: is so it's socialized medicine, I think they call it or we've heard also like the UK may have the the national.

00:35:29.190 --> 00:35:38.160 Frank R. Harrison: Health administration or some organizational body that uses a lot of patient data to help determine price effectiveness while the United States.

00:35:39.090 --> 00:35:46.500 Frank R. Harrison: might be predominantly profit Center focused as the free country that we are, but then, after a worldwide pandemic.

00:35:46.950 --> 00:35:53.310 Frank R. Harrison: By code like coven 19 I think that changes the narrative for every country and we just have to operate.

00:35:53.610 --> 00:36:03.990 Frank R. Harrison: Based on what our legislative system can do to make changes and accommodate for the flexibility of both the individual patients, as well as the pharmaceutical companies in this case.

00:36:04.290 --> 00:36:21.510 Frank R. Harrison: And I, and I know this is not typically a show that is looking to debate or tried to uncover a lot of the motivations in our governments, which is why, as a disclaimer again, these are just food for thought and conversation i'm not trying to create any controversial issues.

00:36:23.070 --> 00:36:28.470 Frank R. Harrison: That might be, you know make make someone a little bit disrupted in their thinking, but.

00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:35.730 Frank R. Harrison: What I am trying to point out is that we, together, as a country after dealing with coven 19 are trying to use more research.

00:36:36.030 --> 00:36:44.970 Frank R. Harrison: And more big picture thinking in order to come up with better alternatives for the problems that we have had, especially in the nature of affordable medication.

00:36:45.390 --> 00:36:55.230 Frank R. Harrison: I think like you said earlier technology is definitely a big driver of some of these changes that are being made, but then i've also had a conversation today with a friend of mine.

00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:08.430 Frank R. Harrison: about the whole nature of informatics and the whole nature of doing research on previously proven pharmaceutical drugs and how to use that historical data to actually redevelop.

00:37:08.970 --> 00:37:18.180 Frank R. Harrison: new solutions for new problems rather than trying to invent the wheel, what is your take on on informatics do you know, particularly what i'm referring to.

00:37:18.690 --> 00:37:32.100 James Swanson: I don't, but I do know a side story about that may be related and you know with these for profit 23 and me and ancestry COM databases, the individual sign up for.

00:37:32.520 --> 00:37:41.340 James Swanson: they're now able to do massive data searches that they never could do before, because these are becoming repositories of.

00:37:41.700 --> 00:37:53.700 James Swanson: genetic information and genetically inherited diseases, so I know there's a whole branch now of medicine that's mining the data is supplied by 23andme.

00:37:54.030 --> 00:37:57.990 James Swanson: And ancestry COM, because now there are millions of subscribers.

00:37:58.470 --> 00:38:10.380 James Swanson: And they now have access to broad numbers of where before they were doing these isolated small double blind studies with 20 30,000 people, but now they can make genetic.

00:38:10.890 --> 00:38:22.560 James Swanson: Of suppositions about certain diseases and who will be affected in the future by looking at millions of people's the genetic makeup and DNA.

00:38:22.860 --> 00:38:32.490 James Swanson: And I think that's very promising and I think people should be optimistic that we're going to have some more breakthroughs just from data mining on a very large scale.

00:38:33.390 --> 00:38:44.190 Frank R. Harrison: But that's pretty much how I was referring to informatics it's all the aspect of how big data has grown, especially with all the social media channels that we have out there are various aspects of.

00:38:44.580 --> 00:38:51.360 Frank R. Harrison: Obtaining data and profiles on individual users and influencers and, especially, in this case, patients and.

00:38:51.810 --> 00:39:00.870 Frank R. Harrison: there's a whole aspect where Mr rene is simply genetic code it's not actual disease or actual dead virus that we're typically used to getting.

00:39:01.140 --> 00:39:13.770 Frank R. Harrison: When getting our flu vaccine, for example, you know, and I gather Pfizer is, it is a real case study into itself if we all remember by acquisition fi agro was originally supposed to be a heart medication that we all have learned.

00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:20.730 Frank R. Harrison: Especially men out there, that there are different benefits of taking Viagra which has now become the primary marketing story.

00:39:21.060 --> 00:39:28.110 Frank R. Harrison: You know, then, that being said, I think what am RNA has also taught the world, especially in pain and during the coven pandemic.

00:39:28.470 --> 00:39:36.090 Frank R. Harrison: Is that there is no research being generated for potential cures not proven and definitely i'm not saying that a cure is coming.

00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:45.870 Frank R. Harrison: But the potential cures for things like cancer and HIV just by providing Mr na vaccines to the targeted Oregon that might be at risk to having cancer.

00:39:46.200 --> 00:39:53.280 Frank R. Harrison: I think the other informatica information that I received today was is that there is a population of already sick patients let's say.

00:39:53.520 --> 00:40:04.890 Frank R. Harrison: An ongoing patient dealing with diabetes like we talked about where they might be taking insulin or they might be taking if they have Type two other kinds of pills that are helping to lower their a one see.

00:40:05.490 --> 00:40:15.750 Frank R. Harrison: They are probably taking pills that have a different effect on another part of the body that you don't even know where let's say, for example.

00:40:16.140 --> 00:40:23.430 Frank R. Harrison: The individual is diabetic or in my case epileptic taking a medication that might be privately.

00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:32.100 Frank R. Harrison: or below the surface, preventing me from ever getting lung cancer or liver cancer and we just don't know it, because.

00:40:32.460 --> 00:40:44.640 Frank R. Harrison: There could be the understanding through some kind of double blind study or some kind of historical research that when you are getting a certain drug for a certain illness, you might be actually becoming immune.

00:40:45.150 --> 00:40:51.330 Frank R. Harrison: To things that you probably would have gotten if you didn't have the other illness, you were being treated for and all of that is theory.

00:40:52.020 --> 00:41:01.290 Frank R. Harrison: But I think like what we've been talking about with the use of all the data mining and with the use of technology and being able to be.

00:41:01.680 --> 00:41:09.090 Frank R. Harrison: ready for the next pandemic or ready for the next treatment protocol it's giving us an opportunity to be ahead of.

00:41:09.630 --> 00:41:18.270 Frank R. Harrison: ahead of the game, from this point forward and just not rely on our laurels and assume that it's one organ to focus on that is the big picture.

00:41:18.690 --> 00:41:28.140 Frank R. Harrison: That we all collectively, with the support of technology and the funding to really do more preventative care, I think, which is what the end goal is.

00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:42.150 James Swanson: it's all very hopeful and optimistic, I think, and I think people should you know, look at how we've increased lifespans in throughout the world, and yes.

00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:51.720 James Swanson: It through a variety of means and now to take away the suffering of a lot of these horrible diseases heart cancer.

00:41:52.170 --> 00:42:01.860 James Swanson: neurological diseases parkinson's they think alzheimer's they're getting closer and closer to figuring out how the brain, you know becomes dysfunctional.

00:42:02.370 --> 00:42:22.500 James Swanson: And a lot of it's done through supercomputers new information, and you know these constant double blind studies that they're doing with the prospective patients, so I think people should generally be optimistic that the diseases that are prevalent today may not be with us in a generation.

00:42:23.370 --> 00:42:25.500 Frank R. Harrison: i'm hoping for that as much as you are.

00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:33.900 Frank R. Harrison: But you did mention something about crispr technology, I found that very interesting, especially in the area of epilepsy and trying to remove the gene that starts seizures but.

00:42:34.230 --> 00:42:42.090 Frank R. Harrison: Do you think crispr is also something that could be used, and just overall genetic studies or is it targeted for neurological illness for.

00:42:42.270 --> 00:42:43.800 James Swanson: No it's not just targeted for.

00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:52.590 James Swanson: neurological I use that because i'm a little more familiar with it and a family, you know Member, as we know about that disease.

00:42:53.670 --> 00:43:08.790 James Swanson: But no, I think the the applications crispr are almost universal and fantastic, and this could relate to muscular dystrophy and particularly limb girdle which is both recessive genes on the father and the mother.

00:43:09.240 --> 00:43:23.340 James Swanson: And only occurs and girls and now that they can go in and maybe alter one of the parents genes prior to the child getting this they could eliminate a horrible disease.

00:43:24.120 --> 00:43:37.110 James Swanson: Is plan many applications it's not just neurological neurological is probably the toughest because the brains, the most complex Oregon but they're using crisper and many, many applications, and I think in the next five years you're going to hear a lot more about.

00:43:38.490 --> 00:43:47.490 Frank R. Harrison: awesome well as you see from the little warning sign below we're about to hit for another break and when we return, I want to talk with you about.

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00:44:04.170 --> 00:44:17.970 Frank R. Harrison: can help all of us lead a healthier future so when we return, ladies and gentlemen, on this 50th episode of frank about health, we will talk about the future being healthy right here on talk radio dot nyc and Facebook live, so please stay tuned.

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00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:25.830 Frank R. Harrison: Everybody and welcome back to the final segment of this episode of frank about health as you've heard over the last 45 minutes James and I were just showing you about how.

00:46:26.190 --> 00:46:37.110 Frank R. Harrison: We are looking forward to an optimistic fuse of future with technology having a very strong role in the advent of new treatment modalities for.

00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:49.620 Frank R. Harrison: chronically ill people in the areas of neurological health cancer health diabetic health cardiac health The list goes on, we are also looking at a society that is shifting.

00:46:50.850 --> 00:47:00.300 Frank R. Harrison: towards coming cohesively together with various members of the healthcare space, the health care industry to really come up with preventative care treatments.

00:47:00.630 --> 00:47:08.490 Frank R. Harrison: For problems that are existing in our climate our overall environment, but at the same time trying to minimize the risk of any of the possible.

00:47:10.200 --> 00:47:14.190 Frank R. Harrison: health issues that can definitely affect our senior population as we move forward.

00:47:15.090 --> 00:47:24.690 Frank R. Harrison: we've talked about the power that Mr na vaccines have provided, especially during coven and their potential for other illnesses that have historically.

00:47:25.110 --> 00:47:31.860 Frank R. Harrison: been considered in some cases even a death sentence and not saying that you know, we are in that kind of.

00:47:32.550 --> 00:47:37.590 Frank R. Harrison: mindset now where when you receive the news of having an ailment that could.

00:47:38.190 --> 00:47:45.360 Frank R. Harrison: possibly lead to a negative outcome we have better solutions and better options now than we've known to have in the past.

00:47:45.750 --> 00:47:57.630 Frank R. Harrison: And so what we're trying to do both James and I is outline that the future for all of us is going to be a healthier one if we all band together and continue to communicate the facts as they come out.

00:47:58.020 --> 00:48:05.970 Frank R. Harrison: And as you probably heard when we discuss a little bit about the legislation in Congress that's not yet a fait accompli, which I believe is.

00:48:06.300 --> 00:48:13.020 Frank R. Harrison: One of the ways of calling it so for that reason alone, I know that phyllis would definitely want to come on the show with.

00:48:13.380 --> 00:48:22.290 Frank R. Harrison: James and myself, and we can really probably devote an episode of frank about health to how that legislation will be implemented once it passes through.

00:48:22.560 --> 00:48:30.780 Frank R. Harrison: So that will definitely be something to consider right here on this show in the future, another thing we want to have on the show in the future is.

00:48:31.350 --> 00:48:40.410 Frank R. Harrison: Is Jenny swanson so that she can really explain about the value in the added benefits of equine therapy for people suffering from trauma based disorders.

00:48:40.830 --> 00:48:49.980 Frank R. Harrison: or even children who are looking for new ways of improving on their health care, after being exposed to whatever illnesses or traumas they have faced.

00:48:51.210 --> 00:48:56.040 Frank R. Harrison: Next week we're going to have a special two hour show with Sally kellerman and two individuals.

00:48:56.850 --> 00:49:10.680 Frank R. Harrison: that she had spoke recently at a book conference in long branch New Jersey, where we're going to talk about the continuing ongoing challenges that she has faced Sally with multiple myeloma and two other people that have also faced their own.

00:49:13.020 --> 00:49:20.340 Frank R. Harrison: physical health ailments that they've been able to overcome and we're going to open it wide to the Facebook audience out there to ask questions.

00:49:20.640 --> 00:49:30.030 Frank R. Harrison: And to do what we can to really mirror the kind of conference that she had in July, but right here on talk radio dot nyc and Facebook live.

00:49:30.540 --> 00:49:42.420 Frank R. Harrison: The other thing that i'm going to talk about over the next eight or nine weeks and with the help of phyllis on a lot of those shows is about a new platform that we are coordinating.

00:49:43.740 --> 00:49:53.250 Frank R. Harrison: with various members of the healthcare community and even the hospitality industry, and it is not yet under full development but we just know that.

00:49:53.610 --> 00:50:02.100 Frank R. Harrison: We cannot continue to talk about one particular illness or one particular treatment, there is a big picture that has to be collectively discussed.

00:50:02.460 --> 00:50:20.550 Frank R. Harrison: On a much more upfront basis, so I am steering the show in that direction, and everyone will see between now and October night or October 6 Thursday October 6 how we are repositioning the show to be more integrative and more involving and engaging with the audience out there.

00:50:21.570 --> 00:50:31.290 Frank R. Harrison: The other things that I want to make clear is that frank about health has existed, the past year on on the faith and on the commitment of the guests.

00:50:31.590 --> 00:50:42.990 Frank R. Harrison: Of phyllis my co host my wonderful co host as well as Sam the conscious consultant of talk radio dot nyc, it is also existed, with a lot of true stories of what's going on in my own health care.

00:50:43.620 --> 00:50:47.880 Frank R. Harrison: As well as the treatment of my father and my cousin who have recently gone through their own battles.

00:50:48.720 --> 00:50:54.180 Frank R. Harrison: But I also come from a place focused on mental health and wellness and alternative health care.

00:50:54.450 --> 00:51:00.330 Frank R. Harrison: issues, but nobody can really do health care on their own, they need a Community they need to work collectively.

00:51:00.600 --> 00:51:08.880 Frank R. Harrison: with people who are open to communicating their struggles and communicating their victories from those struggles and thanks to James and your family.

00:51:09.210 --> 00:51:14.400 Frank R. Harrison: you've been able to help me overcome a lot of challenges lately and i'm thankful to you i'm saying that open air.

00:51:14.790 --> 00:51:20.850 Frank R. Harrison: For how just our communication lately, has been able to make me deal with some challenges I had to face recently.

00:51:21.330 --> 00:51:31.470 Frank R. Harrison: But That being said, I want to make sure that frank about health, the show and the guests, that will be coming on during the next eight weeks will be reflective of that mission going forward.

00:51:31.860 --> 00:51:42.000 Frank R. Harrison: Now we talked today, for example, about how we don't want to discuss the bill in Congress until it's assigned deal for that reason I also don't want to discuss about.

00:51:43.380 --> 00:51:50.340 Frank R. Harrison: That done deals with various members of the hospitality industry or the healthcare industry until they're done.

00:51:50.550 --> 00:51:58.050 Frank R. Harrison: and hopefully there'll be done before September hits and so when September hits this five week cycle right there where we can devote shows targeted.

00:51:58.410 --> 00:52:05.220 Frank R. Harrison: To those Members of the health care community and hospitality industry and probably even have them appear on the show as well and.

00:52:05.670 --> 00:52:14.520 Frank R. Harrison: just watch a new direction that the show will take where it might, in some cases, become a webinar series which i'm hoping to see happen and.

00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:24.930 Frank R. Harrison: Again, these are promises not meant to be taken literally until they're done, but each week i'll be here on frank about health with my guests and hopefully with phyllis as well.

00:52:25.230 --> 00:52:32.250 Frank R. Harrison: So that we can really just map out for all of you out there, what you also want to be hearing about so by all means.

00:52:32.820 --> 00:52:42.150 Frank R. Harrison: If you want to be hearing about topics that I have not yet covered in the last 50 weeks or 50 episodes please email me at frank art Harrison one at gmail COM.

00:52:42.630 --> 00:52:52.890 Frank R. Harrison: With some ideas with some topics that maybe I haven't even thought of that could be brought about and create a whole forum and discussion for everyone else to listen to.

00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.920 Frank R. Harrison: I think, James, what is your take on a healthy future.

00:52:59.970 --> 00:53:16.920 James Swanson: Oh, I think people should be very excited because we've just come through a technology revolution, the last 20 years you know the availability of Internet the fact that you can see people talk to people and get any information you want all of shakespeare's works on something like this.

00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:22.830 James Swanson: about the Union of that with what they're doing at the research hospitals.

00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:34.890 James Swanson: And with these collective databases of genetic diseases and nutrition, I think people are going to have to take control of their own lives and just eat better I think that's.

00:53:35.340 --> 00:53:43.860 James Swanson: The idea of nutrition becoming more important, will be the future of healthcare and for those who are interested in horse therapy jenny's.

00:53:44.520 --> 00:53:58.500 James Swanson: Google link is just Jenny swanson has to be in so and I forgot the dot before now, I see us w which just means licensed social worker Li CSW at the end of her name dot before it, thank you, thanks for having me.

00:54:00.060 --> 00:54:03.480 Frank R. Harrison: Oh, my pleasure again i'm really hoping that.

00:54:04.590 --> 00:54:09.030 Frank R. Harrison: In the next two weeks i'm going to have a lot more great news to share with the audience out there.

00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:17.250 Frank R. Harrison: Just taking it one day at a time watching everything happened at the pace it's meant to happen, rather than putting myself in a frustrated loop.

00:54:17.550 --> 00:54:25.230 Frank R. Harrison: Of way why this should have happened weeks ago, or this should be happening next week or you know that i've had to learn to almost meditate.

00:54:25.500 --> 00:54:33.960 Frank R. Harrison: and use some of the techniques of the individual guests i've had on the show that i've talked about, for example, the sunshine quotient with Katherine chadwick who.

00:54:34.260 --> 00:54:38.400 Frank R. Harrison: taught me how to breathe in the sunlight, so I can release the stress from my Vegas nerve.

00:54:38.700 --> 00:54:46.680 Frank R. Harrison: or even when I had allison petty who appeared on the show to talk about neuro linguistic programming the way you communicate your words can help.

00:54:46.980 --> 00:54:56.850 Frank R. Harrison: transpose the pathways in your in your brain, as well as the person you're talking to to enable calmer communication and to help reduce the stress.

00:54:57.210 --> 00:55:07.860 Frank R. Harrison: Just living in the moment I mean I guess the technology has had its benefits as we've discussed this past hour, but some of the limitations are that you kind of find yourself.

00:55:08.190 --> 00:55:15.450 Frank R. Harrison: that that is the moment and instead of living on the past in the future and balancing between the two without giving breathing space, which we all need.

00:55:16.860 --> 00:55:32.460 Frank R. Harrison: yeah I am definitely you know happy that that Jenny will potentially be on the show in the future, we have we have another show here on the network called pals which is professional animal lovers show I know Tommy do you who hosts it.

00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:42.930 Frank R. Harrison: He and I have spoken on occasion about horses and other support animals, it would be interesting if maybe we can have a collaborative show with Jenny on both of them, or maybe.

00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:48.240 Frank R. Harrison: What I mean we can come up with many alternatives, but we'll talk more about that in the coming weeks and then.

00:55:48.960 --> 00:56:01.950 Frank R. Harrison: Ladies and gentlemen, you already probably aware we're about to end today's show, but I want to thank you all again for listening, for the last 50 episodes I know we've had some reruns in between, but the thing is, is that.

00:56:03.420 --> 00:56:12.870 Frank R. Harrison: I said on my last show before I took my brief hiatus that, to be frank about health with you has been to show you where i've been and to show you where we're going.

00:56:13.200 --> 00:56:25.800 Frank R. Harrison: And that being said, tomorrow, stay tuned for the two shows always Friday and philanthropy and focus and then also stay tuned for all of the other shows that are here on talk radio dot nyc.

00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:36.660 Frank R. Harrison: As they are rerunning throughout the weekend and we'll see you next week next Thursday right here on frank about health, thank you, James again for being on the show and.

00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:43.530 Frank R. Harrison: We will be in touch, as usual, and I thank you all for listening and see you next week take care.

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