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Monday, July 11, 2022
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Facebook Live Video from 2022/07/11 - Passion, Service, and Stepping Through New Doors with Benita Zahn

 
Facebook Live Video from 2022/07/11 - Passion, Service, and Stepping Through New Doors with Benita Zahn

 

2022/07/11 - Passion, Service, and Stepping Through New Doors with Benita Zahn

[New Episode] Passion, Service, and Stepping Through New Doors with Benita Zahn

WHAT WILL THE AUDIENCE LEARN?

- Building a life and a career based on your passions - What is bioethics and how can we think about our health and wellness more holistically?

 - Stories from an icon in the field of journalism and how the media landscape has changed.

EPISODE SUMMARY:

Dr. Benita Zahn is a certified Health and Wellness Coach working with clients at Capital Cardiology Associates. Benita spent more than 40 years as a health reporter and news anchor at WNYT in Albany, NY. She covered issues such as wellness, treatment breakthroughs, aging, nutrition, and the latest health care trends. Benita's work has taken her around the world and across the USA. She's covered the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, Hurricane Katrina, the inauguration of President Obama, and both Republican and National Conventions.

Benita has won numerous awards for her work including a NY EMMY, International Radio and Television Award, and NYS Broadcasters Award, and has been honored by numerous health organizations. 

We will be talking about her illustrious career at WNYT and the edges she has navigated as the media landscape has shifted - her coaching, and her work as a performer. She is the quintessential multi-hyphenate pushing boundaries and exploring rough edges! 

https://capitalcardiology.com/healthcoaching/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/benita-zahn-dps-ms-cphwc-nbc-hwc-39b42b3/

Tune in for this edgy conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by Clicking Here.


Show Notes

Segment 1

Sandra starts the episode by explaining the purpose of The Edge of Everyday, which is to explore our rough edges. She then introduces her guest, Dr. Benita Zahn, who is a certified Health and Wellness Coach that spent more than 40 years as a reporter and news anchor covering issues such as wellness, treatment breakthroughs, aging, and nutrition. Sandra talks about meeting Benita while doing Kiss Me Kate at Park Playhouse. Benita talks about her involvement with Park Playhouse. She also mentions two of her recent accomplishments, becoming a member of SAG-AFTRA and passing her national boards for health coaching. Sandra commends Benita’s ability to weave her passions into her professional life. Benita talks about her podcast called Everything Theater.

Segment 2

Benita talks about the similarities between her work in journalism and her work in acting and how they have served each other. Sandra and Benita discuss the importance of knowing yourself and Benita brings up that women often feel selfish for engaging in self-care. Benita then talks about what bioethics is and how she got into it. She then talks about how her work in bioethics has impacted the way she approaches and shares stories in her journalism.

Segment 3

Benita talks about shifts she has noticed in the landscape of media over the course of her career. She says that the finances of the industry have changed significantly along with a trend towards biased commentary over objective journalism. Benita currently coaches at Capital Cardiology. She talks about the work she does with her clientele there and the types of people that she sees.

Segment 4

Benita talks about wanting to spend more time acting and mentions that she would like to write a book at some point. She also talks about how depression and grief have impacted her life. Benita is booked to do a show called All the Days in November with a company called Curtain Call. She talks about the importance of supporting theatre post-pandemic. Benita can be found at www.benitahealthcoach.com.


Transcript

00:00:16.500 --> 00:00:23.820 www.TalkRadio.nyc: Welcome everyone i'm Sandra bars, been a few years ago I wrote and performed a solo show called the edge of every day.

00:00:24.330 --> 00:00:29.880 www.TalkRadio.nyc: which was an exploration of the rough edges and contradictions, we all face and grapple with.

00:00:30.840 --> 00:00:51.540 www.TalkRadio.nyc: The show hit a nerve and the relevance of the topic would only grow over time, more than I could have foreseen So here we are real talk with real people sharing stories and perspectives that spark bucket of invitations to leap out of what same on the edge of everything thanks for listening.

00:00:54.330 --> 00:01:06.990 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Hello everyone, we are live in La hi, thank you for joining me on this, the 34th episode of the edge of every day here on top radio dot nyc.

00:01:07.830 --> 00:01:21.660 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: For those of you who are tuning in for the first time and for those of you who don't know me yet I encourage you to check out my bio and talk radio dot nyc or, of course, you can visit my website Sander barge men.com.

00:01:22.170 --> 00:01:28.050 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And please tune in to any of my previous episodes with my inspiring guests.

00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:36.720 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: In a nutshell, this show is about celebrating triumphs pushing boundaries and exploring rough edges.

00:01:37.140 --> 00:01:44.640 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Through conversations and shared stories with friends and colleagues it's my hope that we can begin to understand our edges.

00:01:45.300 --> 00:01:50.730 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And what I mean by edges is those places where we are fearful.

00:01:51.300 --> 00:02:07.080 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: those places where we're resistant to change those places where paradoxes and contradictions live in our beliefs and our understandings both about ourselves, and about the world around us those places where we don't want to look.

00:02:08.310 --> 00:02:18.690 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Listen, we live in turbulent times and we are coming to understand that life isn't just black or white, it must be an embrace of both.

00:02:19.170 --> 00:02:33.150 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And the more we recognize our own edges and get real about them, the more we can help others to do the same, and that I fully believe can help to change the world so thanks again for tuning in.

00:02:34.380 --> 00:02:40.140 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And without further ado, it is time to introduce our guest this evening.

00:02:41.370 --> 00:02:50.370 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Dr Benita zahn is a certified health and wellness coach working with clients at capital cardiology associates.

00:02:51.030 --> 00:02:59.820 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Benita spent more than 40 years as a health reporter and news anchor at w nyt in Albany New York.

00:03:00.480 --> 00:03:09.600 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: She covered issues such as wellness treatment break treatment breakthroughs aging nutrition and the latest healthcare trends.

00:03:10.170 --> 00:03:19.980 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: But need his work has taken her around the world and across the USA she's covered the aftermath of hurricane sandy hurricane Katrina.

00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:26.730 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: The inauguration of President Obama and both Republican and national conventions.

00:03:27.630 --> 00:03:42.690 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Benita is a contributor to the weekly live smart page in The Times Union the H m RC Hudson mohawk road runners club pace setter, and the new magazine 55 plus living.

00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:59.280 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: We need to also created and co hosts the podcast everything theatre Benita earned her master's and doctorate in bioethics at the alden march bioethics institute at Albany medical college.

00:03:59.940 --> 00:04:13.290 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: She earned her ch wc from the prestigious well coaches school of coaching she is a proud member of actors equity association and performs with the singing anchors.

00:04:13.860 --> 00:04:35.940 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Benita has won numerous awards for her work, including a New York me international radio and television award and why s broadcasters award and has been honored by numerous health organizations, it is a great pleasure to say hello, and welcome the need is on.

00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:41.460 benita Zahn: Hello sandy and everybody who's listening tonight and what a great it is.

00:04:41.520 --> 00:04:43.080 benita Zahn: For me, oh my God i've been.

00:04:43.290 --> 00:04:51.360 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: so excited for you to be here, I have had a long standing fan girl crush on bonita zone.

00:04:53.700 --> 00:04:54.480 benita Zahn: my sister.

00:04:54.780 --> 00:04:55.650 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: yeah baby.

00:04:56.970 --> 00:05:04.080 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I love love love love Thank you again for coming on i'm gonna say that a million times i'm just so thrilled that we're spending this hour together.

00:05:05.130 --> 00:05:16.110 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: But i'm also going to share, as I love to do with our listeners how I know my guests and Benita you and I have known each other for.

00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:20.370 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: 2029 years.

00:05:20.490 --> 00:05:25.410 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: holy clean, I know how do we do anything.

00:05:26.010 --> 00:05:27.000 benita Zahn: Bird calls.

00:05:31.410 --> 00:05:32.160 benita Zahn: There you go.

00:05:32.340 --> 00:05:33.150 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh, my God.

00:05:34.230 --> 00:05:40.230 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I love that you remember that oh my Lord so sorry folks we might get into this a few times.

00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:54.120 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh, or a little our own little glory, so we did I, and I had to do an exotic bird call at my audition for this for Stephen Earl edwards literally, and it was sort of the thing.

00:05:54.480 --> 00:06:10.020 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: If I got asked to do an exotic because it was all my special skills, if I got asked to do it was like a good luck like you're kidding get this gig and Stephen are all did it so that I had literally just moved four days prior.

00:06:11.100 --> 00:06:14.460 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: To Albany from New York City via Los Angeles.

00:06:14.520 --> 00:06:15.450 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: moved in with them.

00:06:15.510 --> 00:06:23.490 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Then boyfriend on a nature preserve just outside of Albany four days later, I auditioned for kiss became.

00:06:24.390 --> 00:06:29.820 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: park playhouse your beloved our beloved park playhouse and we did.

00:06:30.900 --> 00:06:31.560 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: kiss me Kate.

00:06:31.590 --> 00:06:32.910 benita Zahn: Together, you ever.

00:06:33.540 --> 00:06:33.750 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Go.

00:06:33.780 --> 00:06:37.620 benita Zahn: I played heavy I have that opening number another opening another show and I.

00:06:37.620 --> 00:06:47.280 benita Zahn: split the role actually because my schedule as a reporter anchor was so crazy so they cast another incredibly talented woman to split the role with me.

00:06:47.730 --> 00:07:02.190 benita Zahn: I did the weekend I did I think Thursday or Friday Saturday or Friday Saturday Sunday something like that, and if I have the opportunity, I will jump in just to the chorus during your life person too crazy um he's a much better singer than me.

00:07:03.210 --> 00:07:08.130 benita Zahn: But I could do something she couldn't do I couldn't jump up on the piano.

00:07:09.180 --> 00:07:14.550 benita Zahn: I had a bruise on my leg from hitting that piano that took me into November.

00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.210 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh, my Lord what you did.

00:07:19.980 --> 00:07:31.530 benita Zahn: Right and you were just you know, and if people don't know Sandra sandy I just have to tell you, he sitting so you see her actually her legs come up just below my neck, so you know.

00:07:32.580 --> 00:07:37.200 benita Zahn: If all this was going to work out and show girl Vegas girl you got the legs for.

00:07:37.320 --> 00:07:38.520 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: An hour.

00:07:38.700 --> 00:08:02.640 benita Zahn: And it was you know, sometimes you have an opportunity in life, where lightning strikes and you are able to enjoy and share an experience and create with people who then go on to spend some part of your life with you, even beyond that and that was one of those experiences.

00:08:02.850 --> 00:08:05.280 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: My Lord, yes, I mean you know, to have.

00:08:05.520 --> 00:08:06.930 benita Zahn: stand out and who are you.

00:08:07.890 --> 00:08:09.150 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: In a lifelong friend.

00:08:09.810 --> 00:08:12.750 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: The stage husband for life, he and I.

00:08:13.380 --> 00:08:15.510 benita Zahn: went on your resurrected that marriage.

00:08:18.060 --> 00:08:19.170 benita Zahn: A few years ago.

00:08:19.740 --> 00:08:33.270 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: We resurrected that marriage just at same said park playhouse it yeah it was a great entrance into that Community for me and certainly meeting you a with one of the highlights I.

00:08:33.270 --> 00:08:33.450 mean.

00:08:34.470 --> 00:08:36.420 benita Zahn: really going to be an episode of this is your.

00:08:36.420 --> 00:08:37.290 benita Zahn: wife's anchor bar you.

00:08:38.730 --> 00:08:44.910 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: know I would expect nothing else, in fact I almost told you Benita I want you to ask me.

00:08:44.910 --> 00:08:49.110 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Questions that's the kind of conversation I want to have with you.

00:08:50.340 --> 00:08:53.430 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: yeah totally great so you.

00:08:54.960 --> 00:09:03.060 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Was that I don't know is that I know that you, you have an extraordinary relationship with park playhouse through the last.

00:09:03.390 --> 00:09:06.390 benita Zahn: I am now the board President and have been.

00:09:07.170 --> 00:09:08.460 benita Zahn: My second term.

00:09:08.970 --> 00:09:18.750 benita Zahn: And I love it because it's the creative process from a different perspective, I was also President during the time and for people who don't live in the Capital Region.

00:09:19.500 --> 00:09:30.420 benita Zahn: park playhouse has only been at outdoor summer theater company may have been in terms of seating the largest and the east coast, I think it is and continues to be.

00:09:31.560 --> 00:09:35.880 benita Zahn: But we started evolving and there's a wonderful.

00:09:35.880 --> 00:09:41.700 benita Zahn: Well, it should have been right and park playhouse to in the kids who are doing.

00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:58.230 benita Zahn: It, this is the main stage production is head over heels going on right now, if you get to the Albany area, please treat yourself, you can come and sit and watch it for free, it is free theatre of course there are paid season we'd love it if you put some money in the pocket.

00:10:00.180 --> 00:10:00.960 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: plug plug.

00:10:01.650 --> 00:10:02.280 benita Zahn: plug right.

00:10:02.490 --> 00:10:14.040 benita Zahn: But I want I think it's I went to see the numbers 14 of the cast members all came up through the park playhouse kids program and.

00:10:16.110 --> 00:10:17.760 benita Zahn: it's amazing so i'm.

00:10:17.820 --> 00:10:18.870 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: very real.

00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:25.080 benita Zahn: And i'm going to to to the BC warn which i'm not really good at, as I was listening.

00:10:25.110 --> 00:10:25.530 to it.

00:10:26.880 --> 00:10:31.320 benita Zahn: And I spoke, I am now a member of sag after.

00:10:32.100 --> 00:10:37.530 benita Zahn: excellent, and I also passed my national boards for health coaching.

00:10:37.800 --> 00:10:39.420 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I saw that on.

00:10:39.570 --> 00:10:40.440 benita Zahn: yay.

00:10:40.620 --> 00:10:44.760 benita Zahn: Inc is barely spell my name with a small being a capital C and I.

00:10:44.940 --> 00:10:46.410 benita Zahn: thought that was kind of funny until.

00:10:46.590 --> 00:10:50.610 benita Zahn: Easy peasy so one of the guys were at.

00:10:50.640 --> 00:10:52.080 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Capital we all want to be Z.

00:10:52.110 --> 00:10:55.500 benita Zahn: that's something I said all right i'll get i'll get him to do it.

00:10:55.710 --> 00:10:57.150 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: yeah so that.

00:10:57.510 --> 00:10:58.140 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Was Kevin.

00:10:58.170 --> 00:10:59.430 benita Zahn: Welcome to doors right.

00:11:00.300 --> 00:11:01.020 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: We are walking.

00:11:01.050 --> 00:11:13.860 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well, and that's your we that's both of our platforms, the door opens walk through it and always reinventing always trying something new, this is one of the many things I adore about you, you are.

00:11:14.550 --> 00:11:26.400 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: The quintessential multi hyphen it as they're saying in the in the youngster world and the hipster world that you your zest for life.

00:11:26.790 --> 00:11:32.790 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: there's not a lot of people that I can say, have a successful life that combine.

00:11:33.210 --> 00:11:46.620 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: passions and interests and skills and continue to grow in their knowledge, in their wisdom, but it remains still a passion and you've been able.

00:11:46.980 --> 00:12:03.000 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: to weave your professional life with your personal life with your passions for health and fitness and performing and storytelling in such a way that has created an extraordinary tapestry.

00:12:03.570 --> 00:12:04.170 benita Zahn: Well, and.

00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:05.310 benita Zahn: inspires.

00:12:05.430 --> 00:12:06.720 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I see many.

00:12:08.520 --> 00:12:26.880 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Thank you and I, I was and it's what you teach it's what I tried to teach it's what we try to impart this wholeness of life and and I know it's what you bring to your coaching and congratulations again and we're going to get into your coaching in a bit it's.

00:12:27.090 --> 00:12:37.230 benita Zahn: going to jump in it's funny you said about sharing and teaching, if only there was and i'll say this to clients So for me, I had their fairy dust that I could you know sprinkle.

00:12:37.620 --> 00:12:50.460 benita Zahn: But I think sandy the fairy dust is us, bringing ourselves and being present speaks to the edge of every day, because that is.

00:12:50.550 --> 00:12:51.630 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: A, that is, the edge.

00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:57.600 benita Zahn: fearful, they are some fear inducing experience.

00:12:58.050 --> 00:13:11.250 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: in deed, there is no greater no greater explanation of the edge is to be at that place and choose to step through the fear.

00:13:11.610 --> 00:13:12.120 benita Zahn: mm hmm.

00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:16.530 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: into the next expansive experience.

00:13:16.830 --> 00:13:18.810 benita Zahn: In coaching well coaches.

00:13:18.900 --> 00:13:21.570 benita Zahn: philosophy that would be a growth.

00:13:23.040 --> 00:13:24.240 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh, I love it they use edge.

00:13:25.500 --> 00:13:28.740 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Of course they do everything is about the edge of every day.

00:13:29.010 --> 00:13:31.200 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: it's every day and coaching everywhere.

00:13:33.810 --> 00:13:38.670 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well we've got two minutes to break, so I quickly want to to.

00:13:39.390 --> 00:13:54.870 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Express to everyone, I don't know that we'll get into too much with it, because then, I want to move on to your coaching, but I want to mention your podcast everything's theater I just listened to it and it's so fantastic you're one of course you're wonderful.

00:13:55.590 --> 00:13:58.170 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: it's you know no surprise here's my shock face.

00:14:01.230 --> 00:14:21.420 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: But you I just I love the whole idea of it and I love, how it serves the Community and and lifts up the Community and gets the word out and people, you know because so many times people learn about things later after they're closed, and so this is a great thing.

00:14:21.780 --> 00:14:27.510 benita Zahn: Oh we're having a great time with it, it was born out of the show, I was doing Shakespeare in love.

00:14:27.990 --> 00:14:38.430 benita Zahn: A capital REP and one of the my fellow actors Ellen cribs who is my co host you can we were chatting and it was one of those yeah i'm thinking about doing a podcast i'm thinking about doing a podcast.

00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:40.650 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: podcasters.

00:14:40.890 --> 00:14:51.840 benita Zahn: Right let's do a podcast you know, and let us be podcasters will marry our money together and people are equipment and then you know, of course, the world closed down, so we have to go to zoom.

00:14:52.050 --> 00:14:53.280 benita Zahn: We used to go out live.

00:14:53.460 --> 00:14:54.150 benita Zahn: And do this.

00:14:55.320 --> 00:15:03.750 benita Zahn: And it was great fun, but what this affording us you got to find the silver lining is that we're now able to talk to theaters actors.

00:15:04.920 --> 00:15:10.350 benita Zahn: In front of the you know house behind us all over the country yeah.

00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:18.120 benita Zahn: amen so it's really and so many of them, I think you can't really tell them the background of this detail this way the my dog has shown up.

00:15:18.180 --> 00:15:19.380 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: You know our doorbell.

00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:20.250 benita Zahn: Just a little bit.

00:15:20.280 --> 00:15:22.800 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Of a look he's excited and she wants to break.

00:15:22.890 --> 00:15:23.790 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: We need a break.

00:15:23.970 --> 00:15:39.750 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: we're going to go to commercial break and when we come back we're going to dive into Benita zones illustrious career as a journalist and health reporter when we come back on the edge of every day with the neatest on stay tuned.

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00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:59.700 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And we are back with Benita zahn so I thought of you last week.

00:18:00.870 --> 00:18:24.240 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: i'm I was telling a story and It made me think of you and my excitement about our conversation or upcoming conversation i'm fascinated with the edge of journalism and communication and communications and theatre work performing work acting work.

00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:32.130 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And it, so the story, I was telling was that, when I was in seminary it was right before I was going to seminary.

00:18:32.850 --> 00:18:38.430 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I was at a dinner party, it was not people that I knew well, it was work colleagues of my husband and I.

00:18:38.910 --> 00:18:49.170 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: They I share that I was going to seminary for to become an interfaith minister and they knew that I was an actor and there was this long pause and this.

00:18:49.590 --> 00:19:00.660 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: incredulity that an inability to kind of connect the dots between being an actor and and and a spiritual leader or spiritual seeker or someone.

00:19:01.170 --> 00:19:16.680 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: stepping out of the proverbial spiritual closet in a big way and and I was like and they said as much, and it was a little crushing and but I, you know well, I i've always been I always see it as very simple to connect those dots.

00:19:17.730 --> 00:19:28.680 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: what's at the heart of the creative journey and what's at the heart of the spiritual journey is know thyself the Greek maxim know thyself and storytelling.

00:19:29.700 --> 00:19:49.860 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: So I was telling that story just recently again and I thought of you with the edge of communications your journalism and your work in that field, combined with your work and acting and performing and I I can imagine that you've been asked that kind of question yourself.

00:19:50.970 --> 00:19:52.470 benita Zahn: Oh, many times.

00:19:52.830 --> 00:19:53.400 benita Zahn: yeah i'm.

00:19:53.790 --> 00:19:55.170 benita Zahn: done for it.

00:19:56.730 --> 00:19:57.780 benita Zahn: So i've.

00:19:58.140 --> 00:19:58.710 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: gone for it.

00:19:58.770 --> 00:20:00.240 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Exactly gun for it like.

00:20:01.860 --> 00:20:02.130 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: yeah.

00:20:02.850 --> 00:20:18.030 benita Zahn: Because you know, as you pointed out at the heart of all this is the storytelling which pare down is communicating and communicating as effectively as possible, so.

00:20:18.330 --> 00:20:19.680 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: In optionally.

00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:35.370 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Yes, like any actor, like any storyteller like anyone that wants to change the world like any coach like right yeah yeah to the.

00:20:35.430 --> 00:20:39.060 benita Zahn: essence and the truth yeah total but what's that from.

00:20:41.550 --> 00:20:43.710 benita Zahn: jack Nicholson says in the movie.

00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:47.070 benita Zahn: You called the curse.

00:20:50.100 --> 00:20:58.650 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And it's fascinating to gun for it it's fascinating to to be so excited about the superficial and the lack of.

00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:05.310 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: depth and desire to see the intention and the true.

00:21:07.020 --> 00:21:12.240 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: impulse behind the acting is a really is storytelling in service.

00:21:12.510 --> 00:21:14.070 to humanity.

00:21:15.090 --> 00:21:15.720 benita Zahn: Well, so.

00:21:16.470 --> 00:21:18.540 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And yeah I mean.

00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:28.590 benita Zahn: Sure it's like a story, I was doing clearly my eyebrows or the wrong color or buffy or they move too much.

00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:31.050 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: No she isn't she's trying to be an actor too.

00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:45.390 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: yeah interesting it's interesting, so how to comment on that, how do you how has doing both of them at the same it together in your life, how is that served you how have the to serve each other.

00:21:45.810 --> 00:21:51.180 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Potentially professionally and how does that the two of them together weave together and serve your heart.

00:21:52.110 --> 00:22:00.150 benita Zahn: um I think that they always reinforced the truth and truth telling amen and.

00:22:02.280 --> 00:22:03.210 benita Zahn: Being.

00:22:05.190 --> 00:22:10.740 benita Zahn: It forces you to sit back and not be crushed.

00:22:11.970 --> 00:22:25.350 benita Zahn: i've often said, and I don't know if it's a woman thing that if you bring a front loader of praise to my doorstep i'm like Okay, but if you throw one rock i'm crushed.

00:22:26.310 --> 00:22:41.160 benita Zahn: And I really had to work through that because you know when you're on stage the critics everybody's got a comment and and if someone were to older and wiser than me when said, if you believe the good.

00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:54.180 benita Zahn: Reviews that means you are giving them credit for knowing something about theater So if you get a bad review well you've already given them credit for knowing something about it.

00:22:55.050 --> 00:23:06.510 benita Zahn: So I think that you, and then, and there was a time before instagram and all that we're we have someone who used to write write nasty grams, if you will, and nail them.

00:23:07.830 --> 00:23:08.640 benita Zahn: To the station.

00:23:10.050 --> 00:23:11.640 benita Zahn: wow someone took the.

00:23:12.300 --> 00:23:13.830 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Use of some creative energy.

00:23:14.040 --> 00:23:23.460 benita Zahn: Right to be so awful yeah cuz that's what they are they're being awful and it really makes you sit back.

00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:28.530 benita Zahn: and be as understanding of the human.

00:23:29.910 --> 00:23:33.660 benita Zahn: Situation i'll be kind i'll call it situation.

00:23:36.030 --> 00:23:45.180 benita Zahn: But you really have to toughen up to and you have to find your Center because if you're coming from a place of truth.

00:23:46.590 --> 00:23:50.880 benita Zahn: you've got to let that out, you can go Okay, so this one said I should do this, and that makes sense.

00:23:50.940 --> 00:23:52.620 benita Zahn: Absolutely, and then you ever you.

00:23:53.010 --> 00:23:59.670 benita Zahn: and your moment my grandfather used to tell stories and the last story, he told.

00:24:00.450 --> 00:24:10.380 benita Zahn: breaks down like this there's a man taking an ox to market with his grandson and they're walking and somebody says old man, why are you walking you've got the ox you should buy.

00:24:10.590 --> 00:24:25.290 benita Zahn: You know, and this goes on somebody says, why are you writing the kitchen right wire and you both writing why you both right and you're going to kill the The moral of the story is do what you believe is right, because everyone is going to have an opinion opinion.

00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:28.260 Everyone.

00:24:29.310 --> 00:24:31.350 benita Zahn: Absolutely best story ever taught.

00:24:32.550 --> 00:24:37.710 benita Zahn: And I had to weave that into my life as a journalist.

00:24:38.760 --> 00:24:40.470 benita Zahn: And as an actor.

00:24:41.430 --> 00:24:43.320 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: or they're not the so as a coach.

00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:47.970 benita Zahn: And there was a coat but the essence is honesty yeah.

00:24:49.230 --> 00:24:57.090 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: and knowing yourself and knowing because you can't tell your truth without deeply knowing yourself.

00:24:57.210 --> 00:24:58.500 benita Zahn: Well i'm not hard work.

00:24:59.430 --> 00:25:00.690 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: it's the spiritual journey.

00:25:01.170 --> 00:25:09.690 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Yes, the creative journey, that is, but there's no other work to be done today someone as curious as you there's no other work to do.

00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:18.990 benita Zahn: People come, and they have lost weight loss weight 20 times I can't keep it off, I won't share with me, what is the roadblock I get bored.

00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:32.670 benita Zahn: So we have to explore why someone gets bored with their well being and that's multi faceted, there are so many layers to that you're really not bored with stone healthy.

00:25:33.030 --> 00:25:38.400 benita Zahn: So much more than that truly it's so much more so that's why the wonderful work happens.

00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:50.400 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh, my gosh yes well and the digging into the like I said in the beliefs and the understandings the edge of our understandings the contradictions that we may feel you know.

00:25:51.630 --> 00:25:54.870 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I I think i'm a curious person Why am I bored.

00:25:55.650 --> 00:26:04.500 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Right, right now, what do I need to take a look at and change to unlock that door, so I can walk through it again.

00:26:04.560 --> 00:26:05.190 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well i'm.

00:26:06.840 --> 00:26:17.010 benita Zahn: Willing don't think that it's not really boredom that's not it when you push it it's that women don't feel they're entitled women feel they are so.

00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:20.370 benita Zahn: When they provide self care.

00:26:22.950 --> 00:26:29.280 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well yeah we're getting into I wanted to get into what what have you discovered when.

00:26:30.540 --> 00:26:43.770 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: about women in your coaching in terms of you know what what their health issues are, but I want to back up because I want to talk about bioethics, because that it tells the holistic story.

00:26:43.980 --> 00:26:45.630 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And that's what we're talking about here.

00:26:46.770 --> 00:26:56.820 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: So, how did bio so you have this incredible career your your back and forth between your report your health reporting and you're anchoring and you're.

00:26:57.270 --> 00:27:14.670 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: All in in different time slots and growing and learning and and you've moved from Syracuse to Albany and your your career is taking off, how do you step into bioethics when did you discover that what was the impulse for that.

00:27:14.970 --> 00:27:15.420 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: um.

00:27:15.690 --> 00:27:17.010 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And what is bioethics.

00:27:17.070 --> 00:27:17.340 benita Zahn: or.

00:27:17.910 --> 00:27:20.640 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: cuz I did a deep dive and I was like yeah.

00:27:21.270 --> 00:27:26.520 benita Zahn: I mean there's two underpinnings bioethics, but really to me the biggest one is autonomy.

00:27:27.150 --> 00:27:40.110 benita Zahn: yeah totally and be empowering i'm giving the space for empowerment and that empowerment for people to drive their own bus So what can medicine was patriarchal.

00:27:40.770 --> 00:27:43.080 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh, my God, and this is so collaborative.

00:27:43.590 --> 00:27:44.670 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: yeah right and.

00:27:45.510 --> 00:27:47.010 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: daughters into some sort of.

00:27:47.010 --> 00:27:50.130 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: god's like our priests, no, no, no.

00:27:50.910 --> 00:27:51.210 benita Zahn: We have.

00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.250 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: To our own advocates yes.

00:27:53.400 --> 00:28:06.240 benita Zahn: that's right, you need to be empowered to do that, and if you need if you're in a hospital setting and things have really gone sideways you can ask if they if they have an ethics can consult service.

00:28:06.600 --> 00:28:16.170 benita Zahn: And the emphasis will come up and they're not working they're paid by the hospital but they're not working for the hospital, they are there for you, they become.

00:28:17.670 --> 00:28:23.610 benita Zahn: The Non judgmental hearing right group.

00:28:23.850 --> 00:28:24.840 benita Zahn: So, how did.

00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:26.040 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Go ahead.

00:28:26.340 --> 00:28:30.420 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Like How did this, how did you step into this to support.

00:28:30.750 --> 00:28:32.670 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Your your journalism.

00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:33.900 benita Zahn: You know it's it's.

00:28:34.710 --> 00:28:35.130 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: A break.

00:28:35.310 --> 00:28:41.580 benita Zahn: Okay it's almost embarrassing, but I was looking seriously, I thought I would go to get my masters in nutrition.

00:28:42.900 --> 00:28:47.940 benita Zahn: And it was not an online program and this came into my inbox and I was.

00:28:48.300 --> 00:28:49.380 benita Zahn: One of those Games, have you ever.

00:28:50.280 --> 00:28:54.840 benita Zahn: been very vocal you know whoa this is this, I think, speaks to me.

00:28:55.890 --> 00:28:56.760 benita Zahn: The universe.

00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:07.680 benita Zahn: turned out, and it did, and the program was going through some tumultuous times, but as I after I finish, then they applied to the state for the doctoral Program.

00:29:08.070 --> 00:29:19.230 benita Zahn: And I was one of two people in the first graduating class both women, one of them is now I believe still running the ethics program at Cleveland clinic oh my this is.

00:29:20.220 --> 00:29:36.540 benita Zahn: So Mary TV with it, because my master's program was looking at the effectiveness of using TV to say, a message for advanced directives and health care proxy acceptance.

00:29:38.730 --> 00:29:39.930 benita Zahn: unbelieving I have a real boy.

00:29:39.960 --> 00:30:01.020 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: So I would yes, you do yeah that's clear and I got to watch out before we jump off I just had It made me think of I just jumped back to watch your passion, when that brief amount of time those four years I lived in Albany and I would watch you on the news and just.

00:30:02.460 --> 00:30:17.310 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I just loved your passion for health, I loved all that you did, but I loved your passion for health and and how you were able to impart that information and in such a way that was clear.

00:30:18.780 --> 00:30:37.380 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: and made it accessible and and so to to go to get your masters to go to get your doctorate to expand that understanding into an even more expansive holistic understanding i'm sure only served all of your reporting.

00:30:38.760 --> 00:30:47.070 benita Zahn: Thank you, it did it changed how I approach, the story and how I fared it yeah I love that.

00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:56.820 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well that's the perfect place for us to take a break, when we come back we're going to continue to talk about the nina's coaching.

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00:33:12.600 --> 00:33:13.740 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: On the edge.

00:33:13.950 --> 00:33:20.550 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: of every day, and we are back with Benita zahn but before we get into the things that I said we're going to get into.

00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:25.080 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: This is a question I really want to ask is.

00:33:26.430 --> 00:33:31.350 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: How has the landscape of media.

00:33:32.670 --> 00:33:49.020 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: shifted throughout your journey as a journalist as an anchor as a health reporter how has the landscape of how media is put out and how it's consumed.

00:33:49.950 --> 00:34:02.790 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: How has that shifted What is your opinion and How has it changed your relationship with the work and maybe even how did it affect your choice in becoming a coach I know there's a lot of questions in there.

00:34:03.810 --> 00:34:09.720 benita Zahn: we'll see it's been a cataclysmic change probably.

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:26.400 benita Zahn: 15 years ago at this point, I was teaching at a local college journalism course and one of my resigned interview skills and I signed the class to listen to the state of the Union and half of them had no idea.

00:34:27.990 --> 00:34:38.190 benita Zahn: no idea what a state of union was they had never listened to it, these are not you know back number kids I mean, and they will like I have to watch it in real time.

00:34:38.790 --> 00:34:48.780 benita Zahn: Because i'm going to pick up my phone, because this is, you know the phone, this is where they get everything right there if their time they can call the world they can call the access.

00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:51.360 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: To text me in their minds right.

00:34:52.620 --> 00:34:55.530 benita Zahn: And i'm like yeah yeah have to watch it.

00:34:55.650 --> 00:34:57.000 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: would be the assignment uh huh.

00:34:57.420 --> 00:35:03.090 benita Zahn: Right and we were just I was able to use zoom it was Skype.

00:35:04.410 --> 00:35:05.550 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh, my gosh you guys.

00:35:05.700 --> 00:35:27.360 benita Zahn: To get a guest from out of the area for them to interview so that's 15 years ago, maybe six years ago, I was doing an event associate matter 123 maybe it's only four years ago, I was doing a fundraiser at a local tavern and say there were 100 people and 5050 you know.

00:35:28.470 --> 00:35:35.220 benita Zahn: But they were all mostly young folks and one of the young women was really pretty snotty I gotta say well.

00:35:35.670 --> 00:35:47.580 benita Zahn: I don't want to you know y'all are you Where are you, you can somebody made a comment you know this has been a different channel 13 and that's when I think she was embarrassed that he didn't know why wasn't done please get on that yeah.

00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.400 benita Zahn: This is the only place I get my news waving her phone at me.

00:35:54.900 --> 00:36:03.450 benita Zahn: Okay, I don't care how old you are just be nice that's I gotta be nice thing, but again so 15 years, who are getting back to the newsroom they said kids.

00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:22.200 benita Zahn: The box it doesn't matter who's there that's the end the world's done it's in the little thing oh we're still making some money that's what it comes down to sandy so I come back what four or five years ago kids really here we've got to be looking differently here still.

00:36:23.220 --> 00:36:30.300 benita Zahn: it's changed tremendously and irrevocably there was a time where there was so much money coming in and money it's coming down to money.

00:36:31.110 --> 00:36:41.520 benita Zahn: Where media management stood under the tree and said I don't have to grab those symbols Oh, how could the five I got so many big bills coming, then things started changing and they had to.

00:36:42.060 --> 00:36:50.460 benita Zahn: pick up those smaller bills, then they had to start taking the train now they gotta wrap their arms around the tree to get money and they're not happy about it so.

00:36:50.700 --> 00:37:06.180 benita Zahn: there's a few things happening, the finances have changed dramatically the work to make your money has changed dramatically trying to figure out how to monetize this has changed dramatically, and there was a time.

00:37:06.750 --> 00:37:23.940 benita Zahn: That old where mainstream media was ABC NBC CBS CNN was just coming in, there was something s and satellite news network first and then we had CNN and now everybody with the cell phone thinks that we're journalist.

00:37:24.180 --> 00:37:41.340 benita Zahn: Right you're not because incremental ISM to journalism and please don't talk to me about what you're watching you know, on msnbc and a lot of the shows there, and particularly Fox, these are commentators, they are paid.

00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:42.270 benita Zahn: to him and.

00:37:42.870 --> 00:37:43.410 Indian.

00:37:44.730 --> 00:37:46.800 benita Zahn: I was paid to not give you.

00:37:48.540 --> 00:37:49.830 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: A true journalist.

00:37:50.100 --> 00:38:07.740 benita Zahn: Right and understand, we all come with a perspective, I am the first born in an ethnic household with two younger brothers my life experience will be different than someone who is the youngest female in a House that is not particularly.

00:38:07.740 --> 00:38:16.320 benita Zahn: Ethnic it's different than the men in my family so How has it changed tremendously the delivery of it, the financial.

00:38:16.830 --> 00:38:18.840 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well it's the finances that derive.

00:38:18.900 --> 00:38:28.920 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: That delivery and and and that opinion and even the desire for opinion so in and did you see it just speed up speed up.

00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:29.790 In like.

00:38:31.170 --> 00:38:33.570 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And all of that, and now yeah it's just.

00:38:35.190 --> 00:38:38.910 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: The way it's consumed the way it's just feels like it's.

00:38:40.350 --> 00:38:43.950 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: it's not journalism, it is opinion and it's for clickbait.

00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.170 benita Zahn: yeah and and by the by.

00:38:46.200 --> 00:38:46.680 benita Zahn: The money.

00:38:47.100 --> 00:38:48.330 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Part two because that's money.

00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:55.110 benita Zahn: Did that change it So yes, so for the last five years, I had been thinking about leaving journalism I did.

00:38:55.770 --> 00:39:00.120 benita Zahn: I started stories to tell I loved it and had it not been to the pendant it might still be.

00:39:00.870 --> 00:39:11.130 benita Zahn: anchoring the news and reporting, but because I couldn't do theater there it comes again um I went back to school thinking was going to help me as a reporter.

00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:19.890 benita Zahn: And I had that Epiphany and I realized that's my reason for being and, in many ways it's like being a health reporter only on steroids oh.

00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:32.730 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: To completely I was it's complete well, and you know i've talked to so many women, men as well, but so many women during the pandemic, there was a collective call.

00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.710 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: A call forward to step into.

00:39:39.150 --> 00:39:41.580 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: A way to be present to.

00:39:42.810 --> 00:39:57.690 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: The crossroads where we find ourselves in today's world in a way that hadn't been and I see so many people saying this is, who I am now now is that you know and they had to really grapple and listen.

00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:59.190 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: and go internal.

00:39:59.520 --> 00:40:08.640 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: During the pandemic and get to that, and so I love that you discovered this and steroids coaching on steroids so.

00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:21.570 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: So yeah you had to admit that it was time to change step out and go in another direction and embrace that but you're still health reporting you're still.

00:40:22.710 --> 00:40:35.760 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Serving humanity are still telling stories you're still uplifting and educating and sparkle down so i'm still where Where are you working now tell us about.

00:40:37.710 --> 00:40:40.530 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: where you have planted your coaching practice.

00:40:41.250 --> 00:41:01.080 benita Zahn: As you want and i'm a capital cardiology one of the biggest I don't know what is the biggest it's a big medical practice cardiology practice in the Capital Region and when I started this work and studying I reached out to one of the physicians who I had done don't work done work with.

00:41:02.730 --> 00:41:12.630 benita Zahn: Before well you know, during my reporting days and I said so what i'm studying this, and when you ever and I before I finish my PIC she said when can you start.

00:41:15.390 --> 00:41:17.010 benita Zahn: That was February Rocha.

00:41:18.420 --> 00:41:19.530 benita Zahn: I gave my notice.

00:41:19.590 --> 00:41:30.030 benita Zahn: In May, what I didn't know is as a medical practice and he they saw they see that things are changing so they have been they were crafting.

00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:47.370 benita Zahn: A wellness Center within their practice, and I believe I was the first hire so I get hired then they bring on a very ethic surgeon, and his support staff, they had another nutritionist they bedded an exercise physiologist they added.

00:41:48.390 --> 00:41:55.350 benita Zahn: A social worker and they know embraced the important into the pritikin intensive cardiac rehab Program.

00:41:55.560 --> 00:41:56.490 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: So they'll stay.

00:41:56.640 --> 00:41:59.580 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Some practitioners, that is very holistic.

00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:11.160 benita Zahn: Right and once a month, one of the classes participants have to take deals with mind body so either I teach that or be social worker does.

00:42:11.370 --> 00:42:18.720 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Do you facilitate with clients working with all these practitioners, I mean I would think that you would sort of be the conduit.

00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:32.640 benita Zahn: yeah, but they need to be the biggest sentiment, you know they get suggested to see me and I bring in clients who are not patience, but the practice.

00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:38.280 benita Zahn: Right now insurances not paying always comes down to maybe.

00:42:39.510 --> 00:42:49.620 benita Zahn: There are some hsh will cover it, so there are hsa some of the insurers and i've been working with local ensures there were wellness dollars.

00:42:50.250 --> 00:43:01.590 benita Zahn: That you can utilize to cover and we're not expensive and there's a research out the sweet spot is to come every three to four weeks for six to seven seconds.

00:43:03.180 --> 00:43:04.380 benita Zahn: I don't want to see you forever.

00:43:05.310 --> 00:43:09.150 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well, and a good coach knows them like a good therapist should know that.

00:43:11.580 --> 00:43:13.410 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: yeah right yeah we won't.

00:43:13.590 --> 00:43:14.880 benita Zahn: We won't go down that rabbit hole.

00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:15.240 benita Zahn: I.

00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:26.910 benita Zahn: had one client, I said to her so where we going and I worry about her you know she's got many health issues and she's really hurt you know moving things and driving her bus much better.

00:43:27.450 --> 00:43:36.780 benita Zahn: So where are we going I said I really love talking to you it's nice I said but i'll keep taking your money but seriously, you need to think about what are you going to.

00:43:37.530 --> 00:43:44.280 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Do you in your your client, we have two minutes to break in your clientele do you have a specific.

00:43:45.420 --> 00:44:03.330 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: i'm sure it's a spectrum of people but but is there has one group of people risen to the top and in terms of who you work with is it mostly women, is it mostly older people, is it you know, is it younger people, or is it is it a true spectrum of people.

00:44:04.230 --> 00:44:10.020 benita Zahn: mostly women, but there were men and women come in and often cry and then come in and bargain.

00:44:12.780 --> 00:44:23.100 benita Zahn: Different way we deal with life, and there are men who are willing to bargain, but that struck me and that goes back to what we talked about how women perceive their value and.

00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:35.460 benita Zahn: The arcade nearness of providing self care and they come because they know they need to care, most of them are 50 plus yeah most of them on a journey that involves weight loss.

00:44:36.150 --> 00:44:38.580 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: and actually designing what they've let go.

00:44:39.060 --> 00:44:40.470 benita Zahn: Yes, yes, and I.

00:44:41.640 --> 00:44:42.930 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: oversee all kinds of things.

00:44:43.080 --> 00:44:48.720 benita Zahn: Yes, and I, I will say, together, we will rediscover your superpowers.

00:44:51.480 --> 00:45:09.120 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: amen that's a perfect place for us to take a break Benita zahn a glorious inspiration you so when we come back, we are going to talk about bermudez leading edge when we come back on the end of every day stay tuned.

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00:47:08.790 --> 00:47:12.240 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Then we are back with the glorious beneath his own.

00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:19.500 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Okay, so what is that project miss zone what is that.

00:47:20.520 --> 00:47:40.500 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Seriously, what is that project that is your leading edge, that is, speaks to your heart speaks to something deep within you that you keep finding a way to push it back on your timeline.

00:47:48.150 --> 00:47:49.290 benita Zahn: that's a good question.

00:47:54.300 --> 00:48:00.540 benita Zahn: I don't know if I have an answer and it might be more acting huh.

00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:14.370 benita Zahn: squeeze in as much as that nurtures and fulfills me and excites and ignites me.

00:48:16.830 --> 00:48:17.370 benita Zahn: But.

00:48:18.750 --> 00:48:22.860 benita Zahn: You know i'm of an age where there's more behind me then in front of me.

00:48:24.270 --> 00:48:32.340 benita Zahn: And I try to keep that in mind in a positive way to propel me not to sit around.

00:48:33.660 --> 00:48:48.390 benita Zahn: And I sometimes think you know you know you're not 16 anymore sister, do you not gonna run a marathon listen, I never brought five hours, even my heyday let's be clear, something always came up in right.

00:48:50.070 --> 00:49:06.030 benita Zahn: But you know, I think that it's maintaining the excitement to get on the start line and believe you will get to the finish line of whatever activity, you are signing on to do.

00:49:07.230 --> 00:49:12.330 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well amen with for that I couldn't agree with you more.

00:49:13.500 --> 00:49:14.010 You know.

00:49:15.570 --> 00:49:19.290 benita Zahn: In today's lesson stop a scary Let me be clear that.

00:49:21.510 --> 00:49:21.720 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Is.

00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:24.090 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: What is scary right now.

00:49:24.660 --> 00:49:25.200 benita Zahn: what's scary.

00:49:25.740 --> 00:49:34.470 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: It is scary right now, and you know and to your point, you may you know i'm just intuitive a book for you, but that I might be pulling that out of the ethers.

00:49:34.740 --> 00:49:35.940 benita Zahn: Oh yeah I should write a book.

00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.530 benita Zahn: there's no question you're right.

00:49:37.650 --> 00:49:40.500 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I mean that's like a no brainer yeah not like i'm.

00:49:42.030 --> 00:49:47.790 benita Zahn: Really, you know it is it's I keep walking around the globe all right, I should, I know I said.

00:49:48.780 --> 00:49:52.200 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Maybe there is fear and maybe there you know, or maybe there is.

00:49:52.530 --> 00:50:04.440 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: You know it's just a question for you as somebody who does this work with others, you will ask all the important and appropriate internal questions as to how that has burst.

00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:07.110 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: But I.

00:50:09.450 --> 00:50:14.640 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: don't know where I read this or heard this because you know how I did my research on you.

00:50:15.420 --> 00:50:16.740 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: which was so much fun.

00:50:20.490 --> 00:50:37.050 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And I was struck by it again, I went back over my notes from our pre pre meeting and read it again somewhere about the loss of your mom very early on and reading it again yesterday and just was like a knife and.

00:50:38.070 --> 00:50:41.580 Because I feel as though I lost my mom at 43 very young.

00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.110 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And of course that's not that young, but you much younger than that.

00:50:47.520 --> 00:50:48.270 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: and

00:50:50.790 --> 00:51:06.210 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: The the idea that there might be some story in there and the choice of you know, and we touched on, maybe you know how that might have influenced decision or I say child free I never say childless because.

00:51:07.650 --> 00:51:11.760 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I think that childless makes makes it feel like it's somehow a failure.

00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:13.380 benita Zahn: To not have kids and.

00:51:13.380 --> 00:51:17.190 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: As somebody who's chosen not to like by choice not to have children.

00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:29.610 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I always want to empower people to to I want to talk about the choice to not have children and what what that means, so I didn't know.

00:51:30.120 --> 00:51:30.630 benita Zahn: If there.

00:51:30.900 --> 00:51:36.750 benita Zahn: Are any right and that's also part of understanding that time waits for nobody yeah.

00:51:37.980 --> 00:51:40.560 benita Zahn: see a parent die, and my mom was 48.

00:51:42.390 --> 00:51:42.960 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: You were.

00:51:43.230 --> 00:51:46.050 benita Zahn: 2027 when she passed and.

00:51:47.190 --> 00:52:03.990 benita Zahn: you're just starting to become friends and I thought, many times sandy to do a book and i've talked about this, and there are books but, on the impact of mothers, daughters yeah it changed for me yeah intimating it changed the trajectory of my life.

00:52:05.100 --> 00:52:11.670 benita Zahn: um I didn't think it would be fun to have children without her part of that I was thought I would have kids.

00:52:14.070 --> 00:52:18.000 benita Zahn: And I think in retrospect, I know that I was.

00:52:19.350 --> 00:52:29.760 benita Zahn: Somewhat depressed for very many years but I had no one in my corner, so I got up and I got dressed and I went forward every day, and it is what it is.

00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.220 benita Zahn: And I was so.

00:52:33.930 --> 00:52:34.440 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Very.

00:52:35.850 --> 00:52:38.490 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well, this This speaks volumes to.

00:52:39.510 --> 00:52:41.490 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Your work is this.

00:52:42.660 --> 00:52:46.500 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: the depth of the can do spirit that you embody.

00:52:48.510 --> 00:53:01.470 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: and your willingness to step through and to ascertain the truth of that depression and how you might use that to inform how you move forward.

00:53:05.310 --> 00:53:07.350 benita Zahn: In its own way.

00:53:09.150 --> 00:53:11.040 benita Zahn: This empowering indeed.

00:53:11.370 --> 00:53:17.190 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh, my goodness, I wish, more people would talk about depression and grief as as a means of.

00:53:18.420 --> 00:53:31.560 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: As an opportunity to move to expand and to know thyself more deeply and therefore it come to a place circle back to a place of empowerment and and enjoy.

00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:35.970 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Because it is the edge of every day we do embody both of those.

00:53:36.330 --> 00:53:37.230 benita Zahn: At all times.

00:53:37.770 --> 00:53:39.750 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And the older we get the more we know that.

00:53:40.170 --> 00:53:40.830 benita Zahn: that's right.

00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:42.840 benita Zahn: So well said.

00:53:43.530 --> 00:53:47.070 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well, as well, hopefully we'll get a book but.

00:53:47.940 --> 00:53:50.310 benita Zahn: Well you'll be the first to know, thank you, Madam.

00:53:51.000 --> 00:54:01.530 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: So on to more fun things do you have anything on the horizon work wise coming up some singing some cabaret is there a show coming up.

00:54:02.220 --> 00:54:16.350 benita Zahn: So I love to do a little more singing my old singing partner we he left channel 13 and I left and he and his wife both sing together so he just made a fabulous sizzle reel with the wife, so I think i've been dumped.

00:54:18.150 --> 00:54:18.780 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: JEREMY.

00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:30.600 benita Zahn: Ah, I knew it was coming yeah you're you and he didn't need a great sizzle reel so yeah wish them the best, and I have a feeling that will be part of their second and third act going forward.

00:54:31.020 --> 00:54:45.360 benita Zahn: Which is really exciting to see book to do a show in November with a company called curtain call and I, having just been frontline Schneider back in November in cabaret.

00:54:46.620 --> 00:54:51.450 benita Zahn: Right and honestly mullin back to back into productions in steel magnolias.

00:54:53.070 --> 00:55:12.240 benita Zahn: I needed a comedy, and so this is a comedy it's just a slice of life comedy called all the jays and i'm not I wasn't familiar with it is still there i've got to read the whole script I love the folks that i'll be working with Richard and Stephen fletcher who I played.

00:55:13.260 --> 00:55:14.250 benita Zahn: Yesterday pleasure.

00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:15.030 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Of course.

00:55:15.210 --> 00:55:15.780 benita Zahn: it's all back.

00:55:16.530 --> 00:55:18.360 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: together at park playhouse.

00:55:18.630 --> 00:55:25.290 benita Zahn: Right, so I play he's directing I think the last thing he did on stage I played his wife in.

00:55:26.310 --> 00:55:27.870 benita Zahn: Being hands on the hard body.

00:55:28.470 --> 00:55:29.280 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: of it.

00:55:30.540 --> 00:55:30.870 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Is.

00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:32.280 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: A big fat hug.

00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:38.010 benita Zahn: yeah I will and he's in it and a couple of other folks so.

00:55:39.120 --> 00:55:43.020 benita Zahn: that'll be engine, or what sandy I don't have to drive far I mean it's.

00:55:44.640 --> 00:55:49.140 benita Zahn: it's like even a run you know it's only a half marathon.

00:55:51.090 --> 00:55:51.570 benita Zahn: So.

00:55:51.780 --> 00:55:56.370 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Okay wonderful, so we can look for you at again.

00:55:57.120 --> 00:56:08.820 benita Zahn: it'll be a curtain call in November, so please if you're in the area book your ticket, so you know talking about theater and supporting it post pandemic is a very big issue right.

00:56:08.820 --> 00:56:09.630 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Now very.

00:56:10.230 --> 00:56:10.740 benita Zahn: Talk about.

00:56:13.350 --> 00:56:25.230 benita Zahn: theater barn, which is a local venerable theater in the Capital Region on your way to Massachusetts just wrapped up a closed there's nothing there season.

00:56:25.470 --> 00:56:29.520 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: ya know we we must must be supporting our theaters.

00:56:30.180 --> 00:56:30.930 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Because that's what.

00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:40.380 benita Zahn: makes us that rounds, all of us out you don't have to be either kid it's buddy to where humanity is portrayed.

00:56:41.100 --> 00:56:46.650 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And uplifted yeah So where do people find you if they want coaching.

00:56:47.850 --> 00:56:51.060 benita Zahn: I the easiest it's beneath a health coach.com.

00:56:51.750 --> 00:56:56.160 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Oh lovely Benita health coach.com.

00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:59.730 benita Zahn: Right and my email is beneath the health coach at gmail.

00:57:00.270 --> 00:57:02.520 benita Zahn: dot excellent excellent and.

00:57:02.850 --> 00:57:03.330 benita Zahn: You are.

00:57:03.660 --> 00:57:04.920 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: You are all over.

00:57:06.930 --> 00:57:07.710 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: social media.

00:57:07.740 --> 00:57:10.620 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: So people can find you on linkedin and Twitter and.

00:57:10.770 --> 00:57:16.050 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: I also coach virtually wonderful wonderful wonderful wonderful.

00:57:17.430 --> 00:57:18.480 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Well, Benita.

00:57:19.470 --> 00:57:21.990 benita Zahn: So why are we performing together my sister let's.

00:57:22.230 --> 00:57:23.010 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: let's do it.

00:57:23.940 --> 00:57:24.240 benita Zahn: We need.

00:57:24.420 --> 00:57:25.710 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: We need to have a chat.

00:57:26.070 --> 00:57:30.810 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: about what we're doing I would love absolutely love that absolutely love that.

00:57:31.080 --> 00:57:32.850 benita Zahn: Love spending, this time with you.

00:57:33.150 --> 00:57:49.470 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: Thank you so much for coming on you are just such a lovely bright light and then dear soul and i'm thrilled to have spent, this time with you, thank you for sharing your beauty your wisdom your talent and your great spirit.

00:57:50.610 --> 00:58:00.840 benita Zahn: honor the people you have on our just said beacons in this world so bravo to you, no, thank you, my friend, thank you.

00:58:01.590 --> 00:58:08.700 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: And to our listeners, I thank you so much for spending this hour with us remember.

00:58:09.750 --> 00:58:18.060 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: never, never, never forget, you are always at the end of the miraculous.

00:58:19.530 --> 00:58:22.500 Sandra Bargman - The Edge of Everyday: To we speak again next week have a great week.

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