It will be partly a retrospective and partly an understanding of the alternative healthcare solutions that Sam has been involved in with Double Diamond Wellness.
Sam Liebowitz sits down with Frank and Phyllis to discuss his organization Double Diamond Wellness and collectively share stories about Frank About Health and The Conscious Consultant Hour to commemorate specific topics that remain on the minds of the listeners of Talkradio.NYC
Today’s episode will focus on Mental Health. Frank introduces his cohost Phyllis and his guest Sam Liebowitz. Sam is the host of Talk Radio’s The Conscious Consultant Hour and is involved with the organization Double Diamond Wellness. Sam tells the listeners how he turned an acupuncture business into a wellness center with various trained practitioners in biofeedback, hand analysis, and energy medicine. Sam talks about going virtual at the start of 2020 and how he and his wife have not looked back. He says it cut the cost of rent not having an office, and he can still connect with his clients. Phyllis asks Sam about his energy work and how it translates virtually.
Frank asks Sam about a workshop that drove Sam to be involved in energy healing and launch The Conscious Consultant Hour. Sam tells the listeners how the class inspired him to help himself and other people. Sam realized he had a strong talent for working with energy, and he noticed that if he focused on the energetic side of things, he could help others in a different light, and that’s how The Conscious Consultant Hour was formed. Phyllis asks if this is similar to neuro-linguistics programming, and Sam explains how it wasn’t. He explains that neuro-linguistics is about language, while his methods focus on energy. Sam also explains why he doesn’t practice energy work as of late because he feels as though his clients are looking to be fixed. He says people don’t need to be fixed. He is in a place in his life where he wants to help empower people.
In 2016, Frank’s health was at its worst. He shares how being introduced to Sam was a blessing because he could produce a show, Frank About Health, that was therapeutic for him. Sam continues to share how his show is meant to empower his listeners. He explains why he is a big advocate for mindfulness, meditation, and anything that helps an individual be present. Sam says the true power in our life is our presence. Before the break, Phyllis talks about discovering Buddhism at a young age and how its shaped her in her adult life.
360-degree listening is a coaching tool, a way to listen to the words and listen to the energy behind the words. This can be a positive tool because you are truly present, but it’s also a way to see if someone is lying to you. Phyllis talks about a nurse who recently brought a weapon to an emergency room and used it on herself in California. She also mentions that Biden recently passed a new law, Doctor Lorna Breen Law. Dr. Breen was at the height of the COVID response and, unfortunately, contracted COVID; and soon after took her own life. The law was passed to ensure mental health is funded for caregivers. You can find more information about Sam Liebowitz on Linkedin and Facebook.
00:00:28.470 --> 00:00:35.130 Frank R. Harrison: hey everybody happy CINCO Dubai Oh, and welcome to mental health awareness month here in the US.
00:00:35.700 --> 00:00:44.070 Frank R. Harrison: For this particular episode I didn't think of anyone better than me and my co host phyllis Quinlan to interview, then our conscious consultant.
00:00:44.370 --> 00:00:51.750 Frank R. Harrison: Sam leibowitz also one of the founders of double diamond health and wellness Center which we're going to learn a lot about today.
00:00:52.080 --> 00:01:03.180 Frank R. Harrison: On this this episode of frank about health, but the the main episode, the main focus of the episode is about mental health and mental awareness and alternative healing methodologies that.
00:01:04.110 --> 00:01:10.050 Frank R. Harrison: Sam is going to educate us on today about what his practice does, as well as just to have overall discussion.
00:01:10.380 --> 00:01:15.180 Frank R. Harrison: about what frank about health, as well as the conscious consultant our has done this past year.
00:01:15.540 --> 00:01:20.850 Frank R. Harrison: there's another anniversary we're celebrating well at least, it was close to my heart, and that is on may 26.
00:01:21.180 --> 00:01:28.770 Frank R. Harrison: Which is a few weeks away it'll be one year that i've come back to talk radio dot nyc and I wanted to have the time with Sam to kind of discuss.
00:01:29.130 --> 00:01:38.670 Frank R. Harrison: What the last year has been like as we both on our respective shows have discussed various aspects of mental health on my show i've talked about ptsd narcissism.
00:01:38.940 --> 00:01:48.690 Frank R. Harrison: and other ways of healing through that and, of course, phyllis when she joined, as my co host we really went on to things like diabetes and caregiving and of course we have.
00:01:49.320 --> 00:02:02.130 Frank R. Harrison: A mutual friend Dorothy Martin level who will be actually on Sam show next Thursday so For this reason, I thought that this would be the perfect time for us to send that spend the next hour and just really recap the past year in addition.
00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:20.790 Frank R. Harrison: You know, share some highlights of what to expect going forward so first of all, Sam welcome to frank about health, but thank you for the past year for all the support that you have given to me and the show, as well as just being allowed to thrive on talk radio that nyc.
00:02:21.480 --> 00:02:22.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Thank you, frank, thank you.
00:02:24.090 --> 00:02:27.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And by the way, it's double diamond wellness that double diamond health and wellness.
00:02:28.110 --> 00:02:40.770 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it I forgot that this is mental health awareness month, but if you really should be interviewing my wife, who is the WHO is the licensed clinical social worker she's the real mental health professional and the family.
00:02:41.250 --> 00:02:43.110 Phyllis Quinlan: know that on the list.
00:02:44.670 --> 00:02:49.650 Frank R. Harrison: Yes, I was telling phyllis last night, as we're preparing for this next block It shows through the middle of July.
00:02:50.040 --> 00:02:55.560 Frank R. Harrison: That we're just going to put a list together of all these various guests, not only from her network as individuals, but.
00:02:55.830 --> 00:03:04.830 Frank R. Harrison: We have some promising individuals from nyu language and health systems, in addition, some of the people that you've referred me to I mean keep in mind, you referred me to fill this and look at her today.
00:03:05.010 --> 00:03:08.220 Phyllis Quinlan: yeah Thank you Sam Thank you so much.
00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:12.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah i'm so glad it worked out i'm so glad it's wonderful to have you as part of the network phyllis.
00:03:12.600 --> 00:03:22.200 Frank R. Harrison: Thank you, yes, so I guess, the first thing that started why don't you talk about the business I know we I was familiar with when we first met about six years ago, but.
00:03:22.590 --> 00:03:28.470 Frank R. Harrison: I was looking at your website, and I see that you're involved in energy healing you're actually involved in CBD which I.
00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:37.590 Frank R. Harrison: i've always had an interest in because of epilepsy, but i'd also like to know more about some of the work that you've been doing, not just advocating on your show, but also within the practice.
00:03:38.460 --> 00:03:50.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So the wellness Center kind of was created the same time that I took over the radio station, because the founder of the radio station, Giorgio repetitive, he was an acupuncturist.
00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:59.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And at the time, I met him he had decided to become a Buddhist monk, and so he was selling off all his worldly goods and.
00:04:00.300 --> 00:04:05.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I thought I was just going to help them to sell the practice, and then we were talking, we met at a party down in Chelsea.
00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:13.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, and then he started talking about this Internet radio station he started i'm like wait a minute sounds kind of familiar acupuncturist register like what's your name again.
00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:20.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he tells me his name i'm like oh yeah my friend Larry sharpe does a radio show on your network and he's told me about you, but he never.
00:04:21.300 --> 00:04:27.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: put us together and now they're I am standing talking to him at this party, and so I got together with them a week later.
00:04:27.750 --> 00:04:37.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, by the end of the meeting I kind of jokingly said well you know it's it's such a good deal it's like getting two businesses for the price of one, if I can find someone to buy your business i'll just buy it myself.
00:04:38.130 --> 00:04:44.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Which my wife kind of concord and so that's what we ended up doing, but neither of us were acupuncturists So what we did is.
00:04:44.970 --> 00:04:59.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We made it a more generalized wellness Center so we brought in an acupuncturist whom he trained in his particular methodology of acupuncture and then I brought in initially people who did biofeedback hand analysis energy medicine.
00:05:00.780 --> 00:05:10.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: and natural pathak doctors and and various practitioners have come and gone over the years, but running a wellness Center is a very tough business and.
00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:17.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: i've known many different kinds of centers in New York City over the years have gone out of business, typically.
00:05:18.210 --> 00:05:29.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: When their leases up and then the landlord will like double or quadruple their rent and you just can't afford it, you can survive that way right so we've had to we've moved a couple of times.
00:05:29.850 --> 00:05:36.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: but also over the years, you know practitioners leave you know they kind of feel like well that they're dealing with the clients they're doing everything.
00:05:37.530 --> 00:05:46.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They want to be up on their own and they don't realize well you're not covering overhead advertising, like all this stuff we do to support the practitioners.
00:05:47.310 --> 00:05:52.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But many of them just went their own way and so after a while me and my wife would just kind of looked at each other and said, you know.
00:05:52.740 --> 00:05:58.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's really we're not getting that much from from working with the practitioners it's not really adding that much anymore.
00:05:59.100 --> 00:06:12.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It used to like when we have the naturopathic doctors, they really added a lot to the practice but it kind of calmed down, and so we said, you know what let's just consolidate let's make things easier simpler on us and so back in.
00:06:13.350 --> 00:06:24.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Actually, we decided we, the last practitioners were this was the acupuncturist and they weren't seeing many clients, so we actually gave whatever supplies, we had and books on acupuncture gave to him.
00:06:25.080 --> 00:06:31.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then, when we move to the 38th street location, it was purely just from my wife's psychotherapy practice.
00:06:32.190 --> 00:06:34.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then I still did some coaching and healing work there.
00:06:35.520 --> 00:06:46.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But then when the pandemic kit and basically everything went virtual so we went virtual as well, and then over the last two years we've been operating completely virtually and.
00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:56.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: We just kind of felt like it wasn't necessary to have an office anymore, and it was it was a lot of expense every month, so we went to our landlord and said hey you know.
00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Can we get out of the least we started two and a half years on the lease.
00:07:00.450 --> 00:07:08.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he said Okay, you know you got to make me an offer, give me give me a few months rent and we'll release you from the lease, which is what we did so we kind of.
00:07:09.330 --> 00:07:18.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Paid six months to get out of the lease and now we're operating completely virtually now, we may go back to do a little bit in person in the future.
00:07:18.900 --> 00:07:36.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: um but more than likely my wife will just maybe rent an office space a room in someone's office space one day a week or something, but right now the methods, she does like em Dr and somatic expressed experiencing she can do very effectively virtually.
00:07:37.290 --> 00:07:43.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, coaching clients i've been doing virtually forever and even the energy healing work, most of the energy healing work.
00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:58.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know I can do, virtually pretty well i've had clients get very wonderful experiences and work from that so for us now we're really a virtual Center and you know who knows what the future will bring.
00:07:58.680 --> 00:07:58.950 Frank R. Harrison: But.
00:07:59.010 --> 00:08:00.270 Phyllis Quinlan: i've been kind of i'm sorry.
00:08:01.740 --> 00:08:10.980 Phyllis Quinlan: i'm really curious about the energy work that you do and how that translates virtually I i'm a reiki master and I understand distance reiki.
00:08:11.310 --> 00:08:17.790 Phyllis Quinlan: And you know but i'm just curious what energy realm do you practice in, and how does that translate virtually.
00:08:18.660 --> 00:08:32.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So I have learned a lot of different energy healing methods over the years um but after why they all kind of meshed together but i've kind of consolidated things down into sort of two modalities.
00:08:33.570 --> 00:08:45.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: One, which is you know kind of loosely based on reiki and many other typically hands on modalities it's really more of a spiritual kind of healing I put myself in a state, I call in a bunch of.
00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:58.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Energetic collectives and I kind of take the client through a process, but the other modality is is sort of an instantaneous non hands on form of energy healing.
00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:07.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That I do, which has been so super effective and i've been doing that distance wise long before the pandemic and it's really about sort of.
00:09:08.760 --> 00:09:21.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: feeling intuitively what's underneath the symptom and we have this the sense that, like we think the symptom is the problem, the symptom is never the problem, the symptom is just the symptom it's just a.
00:09:21.300 --> 00:09:23.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's a breadcrumb right.
00:09:23.340 --> 00:09:37.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And typically it's caused by some in some place the individual is off Center off balance are not neutral the way, one of my teachers, but they not neutral to some issue.
00:09:38.100 --> 00:09:51.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And that issue it doesn't always make logical sense that issue could be you know, an issue with their mother or father or or anxiety or at work and it's showing up as knee pain or back pain, or something.
00:09:52.050 --> 00:10:03.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, and what I do is I do a series of very fast quick corrections kind of just like flipping little light switches virtual light switches on and off.
00:10:03.780 --> 00:10:13.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To help the person to be centered in neutral and when we're neutral it's actually the strongest place we can be and inevitably the symptoms just kind of fall away right.
00:10:13.530 --> 00:10:14.340 Frank R. Harrison: And you know.
00:10:14.370 --> 00:10:19.140 Phyllis Quinlan: you're able to do that in a virtual way that doesn't require proximity at all.
00:10:19.260 --> 00:10:21.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: No, not at all as matter of fact, I remember.
00:10:22.860 --> 00:10:32.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: God, probably, seven, eight, no more me, you know, maybe eight nine years ago, a woman got referred to me, who was out in California and I was here.
00:10:33.330 --> 00:10:40.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And she had like a list of like 13 different symptoms, she was experiencing, and so I worked with her on the phone for.
00:10:41.010 --> 00:10:53.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: About, you know as an hour session on the phone and you know when we started, I always like to measure so it's like okay on the level of one to 10 like how bad are the symptoms and she was like everything's like an eight or nine i'm like okay.
00:10:54.390 --> 00:11:05.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so I work I did them methodology with her on the phone for the hour and, at the end, I was like Okay, so now, how are you feeling she's like i'm down to about maybe three or four and i'm like okay.
00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:10.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, you know, sometimes it takes a little while for things to kind of shift so.
00:11:11.490 --> 00:11:16.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Let me know tomorrow, like how you feeling just send me a little text or message ISM didn't hear from her.
00:11:17.340 --> 00:11:22.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: didn't hear from her for like a year or two and then no she contacted me she wanted another session I think her dog had passed away.
00:11:23.460 --> 00:11:35.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, before I start giving you the session I said, you know I never heard from you, whatever happened after the last session because oh I didn't tell you I said no, she goes oh that after I went to bed that night I got up the next morning all my symptoms were gone completely.
00:11:37.860 --> 00:11:48.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah and that was you know years and years ago, so I mean I can do it if the person's right in front of me I can do it if they're 10 feet away from me, I could do it if they're halfway around the world, so.
00:11:48.780 --> 00:11:58.320 Frank R. Harrison: My question is, then, would you say that the impetus for you to be in the healthcare space in the way that you are was that that inner therapist.
00:11:58.350 --> 00:12:00.570 Frank R. Harrison: or whatnot more of Okay, so what was.
00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:08.070 Frank R. Harrison: Your motivation, because, are you even licensed or have certificates in the areas of energy healing that you commit to.
00:12:08.640 --> 00:12:14.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You yeah I mean i'm certified in a bunch there's no kind of license they don't give licenses for energy healing.
00:12:14.940 --> 00:12:25.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But no i've never had no intention, I never thought of myself as a healer um I just what happened was I kind of got back into personal development, many years ago.
00:12:25.950 --> 00:12:30.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I found this local group the New York power team they're still in existence today.
00:12:30.450 --> 00:12:35.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And they would have a meeting once a month and typically someone would come and do a little presentation around something and they.
00:12:36.060 --> 00:12:44.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Be around nlp or different kinds of healing modalities and they do a little presentation and then of course they're doing it because that weekend, they have a workshop.
00:12:44.430 --> 00:12:52.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so i'd be really curious and i'm going to my weapon like oh they're doing this workshop this weekend, you want to come with me and she's very open so she come with me.
00:12:52.710 --> 00:13:04.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But I was doing all these workshops not ever because I thought I would work with anyone else, but just for my own healing because i've had a lot of trauma my pass out a lot of difficulty when I early part of my life.
00:13:04.890 --> 00:13:10.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right and I just thought of it as healing for myself until there was that one workshop where.
00:13:11.550 --> 00:13:14.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know that they were all kind of similar in like they.
00:13:14.730 --> 00:13:19.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: They teach you that they give you some background on it, they teach you the method, and then you practice on each other.
00:13:20.100 --> 00:13:22.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right and and I system but.
00:13:22.410 --> 00:13:29.490 Frank R. Harrison: When loud about to go to our first break, but this is the perfect segue for the next segment of the show where we're going to talk about how that one workshop.
00:13:29.910 --> 00:13:38.010 Frank R. Harrison: led you to not only emphasizing and expanding upon the business with your wife, but also probably launching the conscious consultant our correct.
00:13:39.510 --> 00:13:40.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah oh yeah.
00:13:40.650 --> 00:13:44.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: i'll tell us already get back, but that's how the conscious consultant got born, this was.
00:13:44.220 --> 00:13:51.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And this is long before we work together as a business, she was still working at Henry street settlement at the time.
00:13:51.690 --> 00:13:58.350 Frank R. Harrison: So, ladies and gentlemen, we will be back with our conscious consultant, as well as myself and phyllis after these few messages Dayton.
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00:16:10.890 --> 00:16:17.460 Frank R. Harrison: hey there welcome back to the next to this segment of frank about health as we were saying before the break.
00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:31.890 Frank R. Harrison: I was getting the story from you, Sam regarding that one workshop you went to that really helped you find I guess what drove you to really become involved in energy healing and they get salt at the leaf for example lunch, the conscious consultant our so.
00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:32.160 well.
00:16:33.210 --> 00:16:35.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: What it was, is it just kind of opened my eyes that I could.
00:16:36.330 --> 00:16:43.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, as opposed to like you know doing all these healing workshops just for my own healing that I could actually use this stuff to help other people, but i'm in this workshop.
00:16:44.310 --> 00:16:54.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Learning this method and it's just the methods that i'm primarily basing the incident energetic healing on, and it was developed by this gentleman by the name of Dr Kim you and.
00:16:54.690 --> 00:17:08.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Who is amazing man he's literally a rocket scientist a Kung fu expert a chiropractor like he's like more things he's like you know, like 510 people rolled into one he was actually the rich, he was the.
00:17:09.930 --> 00:17:15.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Technical advisor in the original Kung fu TV series he actually worked with David carradine on all of his Kung fu moves.
00:17:16.770 --> 00:17:25.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So i'm in this workshop, and the second day of the workshop and and and he wasn't he's a wonderful healer amazing healer not very good teacher, but a wonderful healer.
00:17:25.800 --> 00:17:33.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, and so, at the time I had already gotten my reiki initiation I was working on developing my intuition, and this was a very intuitive.
00:17:33.540 --> 00:17:42.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: modality and and after lunch, we come back and the assistants are there and they're like well cams up and he's doing a private session so we'd like some people to come up and demonstrate the method.
00:17:42.900 --> 00:17:47.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Would anyone like to receive a healing and so it's one woman raises their hands blonde woman.
00:17:47.940 --> 00:17:56.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And they pick on her and she goes yeah I feel all congested inside I feel like i'm about to come down with the flu my lungs are really feeling congested.
00:17:56.310 --> 00:18:00.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: i'd love for someone to work on me, before I get ready fully break down get sick right.
00:18:00.660 --> 00:18:12.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, and then they asked Okay, who would like to try the method honor and I can tell there's no class about 50 people most people were like scratching their heads, they didn't they didn't really quite get it i'm like in the back of the room my hand in the air and they picked on me.
00:18:12.570 --> 00:18:19.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah it's like come up and they do this modality, this method which I literally just learned in the last day and a half.
00:18:20.550 --> 00:18:32.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I just quickly like five minutes work on her and after I stopped I like what I said so So how do you feel when she goes Oh, I can breathe I go oh that's a good thing, because no, no, no, listen she takes us deep breath.
00:18:34.650 --> 00:18:39.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: you hear that I go it sounds great yeah there's no congestion, she was no, no, no, you don't understand.
00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:48.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: i've been suffering from chronic bronchitis, since I was six years old in South Africa, I haven't been able to breathe like this, since I was a little kid I was like.
00:18:49.410 --> 00:19:01.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Oh, oh Oh, and so, like in the back of my head i'm like the light bulb goes off it's like oh so it's like this isn't just for me for myself, I can actually use this to help other people.
00:19:01.320 --> 00:19:02.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right is.
00:19:02.550 --> 00:19:17.700 Frank R. Harrison: It found your calling at that moment, from the perspective of being able to be giving whatever instincts you have or intuition, you have and try to share your own ideas about how to help improve people's health and wellness by wakening them.
00:19:17.820 --> 00:19:19.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: As as you try, what did.
00:19:19.620 --> 00:19:35.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: It what it really did, for me, is it made me realize that I had a certain talent around working with energy right and that and that when I focus on the energetic side of things, I could help people in a different way than other people that help people.
00:19:35.850 --> 00:19:41.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, so that evening I go out to dinner with my wife i'm all excited she wasn't at this workshop I was telling her all about it.
00:19:42.030 --> 00:19:51.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And i'm just thinking like what do I do with this like at the time I was in real estate, I was a business consultant, I was teaching people how to you know start their own business and i'm.
00:19:51.780 --> 00:20:03.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Like what do I do with this, and then it just kind of came to me it's like well you're still a consultant you just a consultant of a different kind ah and that's when the idea of the conscious consultant was born.
00:20:03.360 --> 00:20:13.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's the idea that I work on an energetic level with people's consciousness, to help them to make shifts that will change things that may unravel like.
00:20:13.890 --> 00:20:27.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: completely different areas of their life, not just the fact that they have foot pain or shoulder hurts, but could also like help improve their relationship with their parents or help them when they're having trouble with somebody at work, yes.
00:20:27.300 --> 00:20:30.570 Frank R. Harrison: As more holistic now, I think this you had a question related to that.
00:20:30.750 --> 00:20:32.430 Phyllis Quinlan: You know this sounds so similar to.
00:20:33.780 --> 00:20:43.140 Phyllis Quinlan: I think it was the last guest or two that we had I believe her name is allison yeah so it's this neuro linguistic programming or something similar to.
00:20:43.140 --> 00:20:49.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That, no, no, not at all, not at all neuro linguistic programming really works on the level of the mind.
00:20:51.450 --> 00:20:52.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This is nothing.
00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:53.400 Phyllis Quinlan: about the language.
00:20:53.430 --> 00:20:54.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: This is all about the energy.
00:20:55.650 --> 00:20:59.790 Phyllis Quinlan: I thought I heard you use the acronym nlp and I that's what triggered that question.
00:21:00.390 --> 00:21:02.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A new know.
00:21:03.420 --> 00:21:08.670 Frank R. Harrison: hey you're mentioning that they were talking about that in the workshop nlp was one of the topics that they were just.
00:21:08.700 --> 00:21:09.540 Phyllis Quinlan: yeah and that's.
00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:10.770 Phyllis Quinlan: that's what we did.
00:21:10.980 --> 00:21:11.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: At this.
00:21:11.430 --> 00:21:15.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: group at this personal development group, those were like some of the teachers that came through.
00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:23.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, there was a gentleman that came through but I didn't I actually never took that workshop I I kind of actually I know nlp is very powerful.
00:21:24.210 --> 00:21:34.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: At the same time, it can be very manipulative manipulative like I one time had a meeting with someone who was an nlp practitioner for like 30 years.
00:21:34.860 --> 00:21:42.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he stepped away from it, I was very curious why he stepped away with it because it's it sounded like so amazing and so wonderful and he goes, you know i'm so.
00:21:42.420 --> 00:21:51.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: trained in and i'm so used to like parsing out the words and and thinking about where to take people and stuff he goes I can't even turn it off anymore, he goes that's why.
00:21:51.600 --> 00:21:59.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I had to stop do it because I can't even turn it off and and he's saying it's like you're constantly trying to get somebody else to do what you think is right.
00:21:59.730 --> 00:22:09.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And and and actually to be honest, I don't even really do all that much energy work anymore, because I find a lot of people can go to energy healers.
00:22:10.110 --> 00:22:22.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Because they don't actually really wanted to their own work, they want you to fix them and what's really come to me over the years, with my own personal work with my demonic work that I do is that people don't need to be fixed.
00:22:23.970 --> 00:22:33.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And I actually would rather empower people to heal themselves rather than have them rely on me to be their healer right.
00:22:34.260 --> 00:22:43.620 Frank R. Harrison: I mean, but at the same time that's what I say on frank about help that I want everyone to get hold of their own resources so that they can improve on the quality of their life.
00:22:43.890 --> 00:22:51.930 Frank R. Harrison: it's like what you say in your book everyday awakenings I mean essentially it's awakening people who are probably just living, the low, of whatever.
00:22:52.260 --> 00:22:57.990 Frank R. Harrison: Lifestyle they currently are involved in, I mean all of us were put into a wall during cove it there's no question but.
00:22:58.320 --> 00:23:07.320 Frank R. Harrison: I think part of the challenge for people like yourself and what i've been dealing with in terms of family issues, but not to mention also living life with epilepsy when we first met.
00:23:07.560 --> 00:23:20.190 Frank R. Harrison: I told you what a challenge that has been that, for me, not necessarily using nlp but always being mindful almost of every interaction i'm having with somebody so i'm not losing my sense of balance or focus, or possibly.
00:23:20.430 --> 00:23:23.280 Frank R. Harrison: Going into a state of mind that people don't know how to handle.
00:23:23.310 --> 00:23:24.750 Frank R. Harrison: Which is a seizure but.
00:23:24.780 --> 00:23:26.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: The thing is, is that.
00:23:26.130 --> 00:23:33.960 Frank R. Harrison: This show, I noticed, for me, when I do it every week I almost feel like i'm in a therapy session I feel very relaxed sedated.
00:23:34.770 --> 00:23:44.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And it's one of the things that i'm very proud of the network is all the host tell me like it's the most fun enjoyable part of their week, like everyone looks.
00:23:44.340 --> 00:23:54.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: forward to doing their show and and and That to me is a real joy to know that that what we're doing to help people with their business their brand that it that it's also something that.
00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:05.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Really feeds their soul and and you know for me i've learned that actually presence is where the real power lies.
00:24:05.430 --> 00:24:18.720 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right and and you know it wasn't until I was able to see how unpleasant I was how my own experience and programming and all these stories that have made up in my mind about.
00:24:19.230 --> 00:24:30.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Myself and the way things are based on my past experiences, how much that was taking me out of presence that then when I started to learn how to be more present the power of that.
00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:36.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right now keep in mind, I still feel like energy healing is an amazing modality and I absolutely.
00:24:37.380 --> 00:24:55.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: believe in it, and I fully support people who want to use energy healing and energy healers I just want people to approach it from a point of view that they're not broken qur'an that it's all about maybe getting some relief or or getting.
00:24:56.370 --> 00:24:58.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: A certain result that they're desiring.
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:10.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But it's really their own body healing you know, like someone once pointed out, if you cut your finger and you put a bandaid on it, you wait a few days, and you take the band aid off what happens to your finger.
00:25:11.940 --> 00:25:12.330 Phyllis Quinlan: heels.
00:25:13.110 --> 00:25:19.380 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: heels, so if our body can do that for a cut on your finger, why can it do that for a whole bunch of other stuff.
00:25:20.370 --> 00:25:26.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And the truth is, it does, and this is even something I learned from Giorgio you know when he was training the acupuncture said listen in.
00:25:27.270 --> 00:25:35.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he's like you know it's all about bringing the body back into homeostasis it's about supporting the body, the body has an amazing capacity to heal.
00:25:36.210 --> 00:25:48.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's just that we we throw so much stuff at our body that that's not supportive that's toxic that that doesn't isn't really what we need, individually and then our own attitudes toward and our energy towards it.
00:25:49.320 --> 00:25:58.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That that's what really causes us the problem but but I mean i've looked around i've had on all kinds of healers and people on my show over the years talking about everything from.
00:25:58.620 --> 00:26:03.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: earth thing which is grounding like walking on the earth with your bare foot.
00:26:04.020 --> 00:26:22.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, forest saving all kinds of stuff it's amazing i've had people talk about i've had actually recently I had him back on again after many years, Dr Sam as monogamy who discovered the pyramids in Bosnia and what he discovered was in the in the bottom of the pyramid they were.
00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:34.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: measuring the density of a negative ions now now negative ions are really, really good for the body, because they ground free radicals, which are like.
00:26:35.280 --> 00:26:44.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: molecules that last an electron and they promote a lot of health and well being and what they found was the amount of negative ions in the base of the pyramid.
00:26:45.270 --> 00:26:53.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: was like 48 times the normal amount of negative ions just in the area and the field in general and so like one of his.
00:26:54.510 --> 00:27:07.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: New theories, is that you know we tend to think of pyramids as tombs like that's where the ancients would bury bodies, even though we've never found sarcophagus isn't pyramids we've always found them in burial sites and other places.
00:27:07.800 --> 00:27:11.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But he's saying they are actually healing chambers not tomb.
00:27:12.600 --> 00:27:13.020 Frank R. Harrison: hmm.
00:27:13.350 --> 00:27:23.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And so, like if we're willing to be open minded and look at things and not always approach thing from just Well, this is the way it is and that's that.
00:27:23.730 --> 00:27:33.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: there's so much mystery to life and there's so much to learn and there's so much amazing things out there, I tell you i've been exposed to things over the years.
00:27:34.050 --> 00:27:47.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That are just completely unexplainable but they work and to me i'm a pragmatist, in that way, if something works use it who cares I can't explain it with rational science.
00:27:47.280 --> 00:27:49.710 Frank R. Harrison: Correct but, by the way, we're about to take another.
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:58.230 Frank R. Harrison: I heard your show this afternoon about what was the title again the end of suffering, I had to listen to it because.
00:27:58.830 --> 00:28:08.370 Frank R. Harrison: I was already mindful, it was mental health awareness mental health awareness month, but the words that you said were inspiring me for today's show but, even more importantly.
00:28:08.820 --> 00:28:19.860 Frank R. Harrison: what you were saying about not really being involved in energy healing I don't think so, I think your show is providing you that platform, especially when we're all in a bubble during coven I think you're still doing it, but in a.
00:28:20.910 --> 00:28:24.990 Frank R. Harrison: modern way that we can all still relate to each other, while we have been so far apart.
00:28:25.230 --> 00:28:33.450 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah well when I meet somebody in person, I give him a hug they feel like they were like oh wow that was amazing so yeah the energy still moving.
00:28:33.810 --> 00:28:42.420 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly So, ladies and gentlemen, we will be back with the conscious consultant our right here i'm frank about health on talk radio that nyc and Facebook live date to.
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00:30:44.490 --> 00:30:55.230 Frank R. Harrison: Everybody welcome back to this episode of frank about health so let's uh let me be frank with you, essentially, you know we were introduced by another mutual friend of ours.
00:30:56.370 --> 00:31:00.840 Frank R. Harrison: Back in 2016 and at that time I was going through.
00:31:02.070 --> 00:31:04.680 Frank R. Harrison: Constant seizure activity for lack of a better word.
00:31:05.730 --> 00:31:12.090 Frank R. Harrison: I was actually being tested for cannabis treatments and I was going through my whole mood swings from.
00:31:12.660 --> 00:31:21.600 Frank R. Harrison: Depression to anxiety to a lot of other stuff and I found that when I was introduced to you and we you showed me how the studio worked and.
00:31:21.900 --> 00:31:38.370 Frank R. Harrison: I was able to just create a show frank about health to focus on primarily epilepsy advocacy I had no idea that it was that kind of woman for me like it was for you in that in that workshop room where I was becoming.
00:31:38.580 --> 00:31:39.420 Frank R. Harrison: An advocate.
00:31:40.170 --> 00:31:48.780 Frank R. Harrison: You know, but at the same time, I was focused on another business that I was developing at the time, but I was focused on epilepsy period.
00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:54.000 Frank R. Harrison: Not other issues not mental health issues, definitely there was no co but, at the time but.
00:31:54.390 --> 00:32:04.770 Frank R. Harrison: What I did discover about myself through that whole process like I said earlier, it was like going through therapy and, of course, we had the room, with the speakers on the mics hanging and people calling in.
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:11.700 Frank R. Harrison: So that was a little bit fun, but in this modern age of zoom and stuff like that I just saw it as the perfect model.
00:32:12.150 --> 00:32:24.660 Frank R. Harrison: To expand not only my my career my my health my advocacy and just even network, which is what I know that you've created the network to enable all of us to work together, like.
00:32:24.930 --> 00:32:38.070 Frank R. Harrison: Like a family, especially on Thursdays your block of healthcare oriented shows I kind of feel that, which is why you haven't seen be moved by spot in the past year, so we've been Thursdays at 5pm so that all being said.
00:32:39.300 --> 00:32:51.210 Frank R. Harrison: What I noticed is that I guess from your story, as well as from mine when we are living with something that is continually troubling us all, we want to do is express it and more fitted to something productive.
00:32:51.780 --> 00:32:59.490 Frank R. Harrison: And I guess it helps define ourselves, especially when I never thought I would become a medical doctor I haven't gone to Medical School I don't intend to.
00:32:59.910 --> 00:33:08.580 Frank R. Harrison: But I noticed that i'm very in tune with the way doctors communicate to me whether it has to do with my father's treatment my own treatments.
00:33:08.970 --> 00:33:16.830 Frank R. Harrison: I have a cousin that's going through issues and I deal with her treatments and I noticed, even the level of my communication is more collegiate more professional.
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:28.170 Frank R. Harrison: More medically focused now I guess what i'm asking you is that in your shows, do you find that in terms of bringing people to their own self awareness of how to.
00:33:28.590 --> 00:33:44.970 Frank R. Harrison: You know, be awakened to what ails them and how to solve those problems that you're also underneath it all really helping people, individually or or have some other stake in their own lives that probably they just not even aware of.
00:33:45.930 --> 00:33:50.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Well, you know my show isn't really a health and wellness focus show, although I have.
00:33:50.580 --> 00:33:51.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Had healers.
00:33:51.420 --> 00:34:01.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Different people on my show is really more about raising people's consciousness consciousness around different aspects of life so that's just one of the things, one of the topics I might cover.
00:34:01.770 --> 00:34:11.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But really what i'm looking to do with with all these topics that I talked about is is to sort of empower people to feel like.
00:34:13.200 --> 00:34:27.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: After they've listened to a show they either feel like they're inspired to try something new they've learned something that they didn't know before or they just feel empowered like you know they can do something that that maybe had been troubling them before.
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:34.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But mostly you know when people are dealing with difficult things like what I talked a lot about on my show today.
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:41.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: it's to get them to recognize the story that they're telling themselves inside their head about what's going on.
00:34:42.420 --> 00:34:52.050 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, because our those stories are like filters, but those filters are like right here they're like right over our face so he can't really see them.
00:34:53.340 --> 00:35:04.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But when you step back and get a little perspective, and you can notice them and see them like, then you can really examine them and say like well is the story really true.
00:35:05.490 --> 00:35:17.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then it's, from my perspective, it's like who cares if it's even true or not, if it's not serving us if it's not helping us if it's not empowering us let's change it it's all made up any way.
00:35:17.700 --> 00:35:24.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, especially if it's a story about the past, the past is gone who the hell cares we can change that story, we can create a totally different story.
00:35:25.020 --> 00:35:46.320 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: As long as it truly serves us right and so that's what I try and do is to help people to be a little more aware, so that they can change how they see life as opposed to something that can be challenging or difficult that it's an adventure, they can be fun that it's like.
00:35:46.830 --> 00:35:48.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: As I say in my book.
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:52.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Life happens for us not to us.
00:35:52.680 --> 00:35:55.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right and that's one little word difference.
00:35:56.070 --> 00:35:59.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right, but that one little word makes all the difference in the world.
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:08.190 Frank R. Harrison: But it's also like what john Lennon once said life happens, while you're making other plans, so I guess The thing is, is that you're kind of.
00:36:09.120 --> 00:36:17.280 Frank R. Harrison: teetering on the buzzword that I was waiting for, which is perception i've always said to family and friends perception is everything that kind of defines.
00:36:17.520 --> 00:36:24.390 Frank R. Harrison: Your perspective on the world but what's unfortunate is a lot of times perception is not the reality like you said on your show today.
00:36:24.900 --> 00:36:40.650 Frank R. Harrison: Right, so that conundrum that we all are basically living with I guess is the ongoing challenge that each of your hosts on talk radio nyc or even like especially what we're doing on our respective shows is we're trying to bring in that dose of reality testing.
00:36:41.220 --> 00:36:50.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: That, but the thing is it's never reality see we don't experience raw reality, where everything is an interpretation.
00:36:50.730 --> 00:36:50.970 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:36:51.300 --> 00:36:53.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: our eyes are taking in.
00:36:54.210 --> 00:37:00.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Energy wavelengths of light which are getting reflected in the back of our retina which are technically are upside down.
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:08.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then those electric impulses are fed to the brain, which is then gets interpreted of what this means.
00:37:08.730 --> 00:37:22.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: So we're not truly seeing blue we're not truly seeing red we're interpreting these electrical impulses in the brain is interpreting these electrical impulses of what that means, the same is true for like all of our senses.
00:37:22.950 --> 00:37:33.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know, when we touch something we feel is it smooth as it rough it all again little electrical impulses from our skin going up to our brain so literally everything.
00:37:34.410 --> 00:37:47.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Everything is an interpretation in some fashion, on a very, very fundamental level, but on a practical level we've evolved over the millennia.
00:37:48.210 --> 00:38:07.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: To just focus on our senses that help us to survive, to live right it's the survival of the species it's kind of like why can't we see galaxies in the sky, or why can't we see Adams well, because if we did, we would be tripping over ourselves and we'd be in by the lion.
00:38:09.030 --> 00:38:20.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right so it's we have a very limited perspective but there's so much more than what we see and think about it, like whenever you've talked to a friend who's going through a rough time.
00:38:20.850 --> 00:38:26.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And you said well have you tried, you know different options to get out of it and they're like oh i've tried everything.
00:38:27.540 --> 00:38:32.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But then, if you really ask them what did you try, well, I tried this and I tried this, and neither of them work.
00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:42.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Okay, so you only try two things and you're thinking it's everything, but what about this and that and this and that and this and that and there's always like a dozen to a million more options.
00:38:42.720 --> 00:38:52.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: right that it just our own imagination gets limited and cramped up so then we don't even see that there are many more possibilities than what we're giving life credit for.
00:38:53.550 --> 00:39:08.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And a lot of times we don't see those possibilities because we're so stressed out again the stories that we make up we it's like a life or death situation to us, whereas unless it's a real like you know fatal medical condition it's almost never life or death.
00:39:09.060 --> 00:39:09.390 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:39:09.450 --> 00:39:20.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But we act as if it is or nervous system hasn't been learned to distinguish the fact that we're no longer living in the jungle and that just because we're a little stress doesn't mean there's a lion out to eat us around the corner.
00:39:21.780 --> 00:39:38.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right so so that stress keeps us from really being able to utilize our full resources but, but when we're able to sink into presence when we're able to recognize these stories and be still and be safe, is why meditation is so important.
00:39:38.160 --> 00:40:00.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah that fan, we can be present to many, many more possibilities than what we normally would have and that's why i'm up i'm a big proponent of mindfulness of meditation of going for walks in nature of anything that helps us to just be here now Ray the famous book be here now.
00:40:00.210 --> 00:40:08.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: yeah it is, it is it mean it sounds so trite sometimes because it's so overused but it's so true and so important.
00:40:09.330 --> 00:40:15.420 Frank R. Harrison: I guess, a lot of people become limited based on their traumas are based on conditions that were out outside of their control.
00:40:15.690 --> 00:40:25.260 Frank R. Harrison: And then they don't realize that they can dig deeper and find other alternatives that they probably never came to them or unless they experienced, for example, an episode of the conscious consultant.
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:26.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: well.
00:40:26.340 --> 00:40:42.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know it's also we're programmed a lot by society like we think that the most power in life is really in money and influence right that's what society is kind of structured around money and influence, but what i've learned from one of my teachers is actually.
00:40:44.070 --> 00:40:55.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: True presence is real power because think about it and phyllis I bet you've had this experience you go into a room where people are arguing or there's a meeting going on.
00:40:55.950 --> 00:41:04.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And, and you, and if you really present, you can see, maybe one person stressed out another person's checked out somebody else's angry someone else's resigned.
00:41:04.470 --> 00:41:19.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: If you're really present and you can see sort of where everyone is at, then you know exactly how to reach that person, you know how to talk to them, you know how to respond to everybody in the room, you know, maybe you need to you know soften up this way or be a little stern that way.
00:41:20.700 --> 00:41:34.890 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And then you can truly affect change in the room, because of that level of presence so to me now, I say that the true power in life is in our presence.
00:41:35.460 --> 00:41:46.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: mm hmm and it's something that you know when you experience it, it is like a mystical experience it's amazing but actually it's it's not our normal state of being.
00:41:46.860 --> 00:42:00.510 Frank R. Harrison: Correct correct I, like you must have seen some of the shows that phyllis and I did together that were for me mind blowing even just living through them are six person panel discussion we had back in October, of course, the one that we did with.
00:42:01.170 --> 00:42:06.060 Frank R. Harrison: Dorothy Dorothy and, of course, the recent one that we did with Peggy bellisario I mean.
00:42:06.540 --> 00:42:10.500 Frank R. Harrison: Just the awakening that i'm sure phyllis, this is why.
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:19.950 Frank R. Harrison: I mean, I look at you as like an anchor for me, because you you, with your experience and everything you add the level of medical credibility to the topic of discussion.
00:42:20.160 --> 00:42:32.370 Frank R. Harrison: But, more importantly, you are able to disseminate through all of the chatter and moderate that moment, that I was surprised, we even on to specific shows had a lot of questions come in through Facebook I loved it.
00:42:32.910 --> 00:42:34.050 Phyllis Quinlan: yeah you know so.
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:36.810 Phyllis Quinlan: I listened for a living.
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:51.780 Phyllis Quinlan: And you know I mean i've practices, a nurse actively for 37 years and in the last five years i've been in health care for about 46 totally as a social worker than as a nurse right now, as a coach.
00:42:53.310 --> 00:43:02.880 Phyllis Quinlan: You know, and you have to listen, as a nurse, especially in the in the venues that I practice I practice in the emergency department critical care emergency trauma.
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:14.010 Phyllis Quinlan: And there's a certain amount of intuitive pieces you're going to pick up you know I can see somebody you know, even if they're telling me i'm fine you're not fine and and i'm going to conduct myself accordingly.
00:43:14.370 --> 00:43:25.170 Phyllis Quinlan: Right um and and and critical care you listen and I had you know a lot of people would would back away from working the night shift, but I had the luxury.
00:43:26.790 --> 00:43:32.160 Phyllis Quinlan: didn't quite seem like it at the time but retrospectively, I had the luxury of working on nights for probably.
00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:47.160 Phyllis Quinlan: 16 years or more, and you know I think that's probably where I started really honing my listening skills is because, when it was quiet and they were no families and there were no tester activities, when the patient spoke to you.
00:43:47.550 --> 00:43:51.780 Phyllis Quinlan: Right now, and that's when you could really listen and and really kind of hone your empathy.
00:43:53.280 --> 00:44:03.900 Phyllis Quinlan: You know and and and find your relate ability and I think that's the piece that you know I understand what Sam was saying, I can walk in a room and I can feel.
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:15.780 Phyllis Quinlan: I can feel the energy of the room, I can feel the hotspots of the room, or the cold spots of the room i'm I can sense immediately, who I want to stay away from.
00:44:16.020 --> 00:44:26.220 Phyllis Quinlan: yeah and I may not be quite sure who I want to connect with, and you know I stay curious with a lot and see if there's some kind of.
00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:39.510 Phyllis Quinlan: A moment where I can feel the energy is there's a there's what we have like a vibrational lines and and now you it's almost like a commonality yeah right but.
00:44:40.530 --> 00:44:49.050 Phyllis Quinlan: You know I those are those are things that i've I that I, I have to say i've had since i'm a child, you know that.
00:44:50.220 --> 00:44:59.640 Phyllis Quinlan: I wasn't really sure what was going on and it wasn't until I discovered, you know Buddhism, when I was about 15 and then you know really started.
00:45:01.230 --> 00:45:05.850 Phyllis Quinlan: learning about to use sam's words suffering and the.
00:45:07.200 --> 00:45:18.240 Phyllis Quinlan: The the Sanskrit interpretation for Buddhist suffering and a lot of people misunderstand Buddhism, in the sense that it leans into suffering it's all about suffering.
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:27.840 Phyllis Quinlan: it's not it's a misinterpretation that we know more about Sanskrit now we have better translations, the word is actually discontent right.
00:45:28.140 --> 00:45:41.280 Frank R. Harrison: Well before we created this content, we have to take a break, so what I want to definitely talk about that further, because in the final segment of frank about help you and I, together are going to hint at the future being healthy.
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00:47:43.980 --> 00:47:56.400 Frank R. Harrison: Everybody and welcome back phyllis was just talking about exactly her intuition and how it has shaped her and being able to deal with patients, especially when everyone is left the room, I think that's where you were saying about this content.
00:47:56.580 --> 00:47:58.350 Phyllis Quinlan: You know I call it 360.
00:47:58.350 --> 00:48:05.520 Phyllis Quinlan: degree listening so there's active listening, you know where you're you're looking at body language you're listening to tone cadence.
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:19.980 Phyllis Quinlan: You know all of the things they teach you in every fundamental listening class, but as as Sam alluded, you know when you start studying energy part of that training is the studying and refining of your of your ability to use your intuition.
00:48:20.850 --> 00:48:34.800 Phyllis Quinlan: So the the 360 degree listening that I talked about as a coaching tool is really i'm listening to your words but i'm listening to the energy behind your words i'm listening to all of you, and you know it's.
00:48:35.490 --> 00:48:41.850 Phyllis Quinlan: It that's a wonderful thing, because I am truly present for you, but if you're trying to blow smoke my way.
00:48:42.510 --> 00:48:43.140 Frank R. Harrison: you'll know it.
00:48:44.310 --> 00:48:45.690 Frank R. Harrison: And i'll call you out on it.
00:48:46.380 --> 00:48:56.550 Phyllis Quinlan: You know i'm back to you know just talking about our theme of celebrating you know mental health awareness and in this beginning month of May it's it's so very important.
00:48:58.110 --> 00:49:15.420 Phyllis Quinlan: You know I mean we could talk about you know, the issue of professional caregivers be at risk for self harm we just had another another person another nurse shoot herself in an emergency department in California, the day before yesterday, and you know she brought a gun to work and.
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:27.420 Phyllis Quinlan: desperate cry for help, and you know we just can't do enough there's a new, more out there that President Biden just signed it's the doctor Warner breen law.
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:36.150 Phyllis Quinlan: and Dr loner breen worked at in here in New York City she worked for Northwest health, but she also worked, I believe, for Columbia Presbyterian.
00:49:36.810 --> 00:49:44.670 Phyllis Quinlan: And she was in the height of the coven response and then unfortunately she contracted coven and she became despondent and she took her own life but her family.
00:49:45.090 --> 00:49:54.930 Phyllis Quinlan: Really celebrated her many, many years in medicine and went on a campaign to get a law and President Biden sign that into law.
00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:10.800 Phyllis Quinlan: For hundreds of millions of dollars to be available for the mental health of professional caregivers but what I wanted to say, Sam you know with the mental health idea in mind is you networks and programs like yours and the ones that you've started promoted supported.
00:50:12.060 --> 00:50:23.670 Phyllis Quinlan: There, as you say, a lot of people say gee that was great that was wonderful, but I think it is exactly what the country needs right now what many people need whether they know it or not.
00:50:23.970 --> 00:50:34.410 Phyllis Quinlan: Yet, because I don't know about you, but I don't listen to the news anymore, I want to find out, I certainly want to you know stay abreast maybe once or twice a day.
00:50:34.740 --> 00:50:42.030 Phyllis Quinlan: To see if something catastrophic has happened, or if there's something I need to be aware of that that I have to get active about.
00:50:42.630 --> 00:51:03.420 Phyllis Quinlan: But you know the days of me listening to CNN or you know msnbc or even checking you know Twitter feeds and things of that those days are over, they are over, and it's there was a difference between wanting to stay informed and then finally having the insight that this is fear mongering.
00:51:04.500 --> 00:51:10.710 Phyllis Quinlan: And you know and and maybe it's the downside of having to provide program 24 seven.
00:51:11.190 --> 00:51:21.210 Phyllis Quinlan: You know that you have to repeat the same catastrophic thing over and over again, you have to interview it to death, you have to bring on 27 people to analyze one event.
00:51:21.630 --> 00:51:29.610 Phyllis Quinlan: And it's never positive rarely rarely I don't want to say it is, but if you look at most news programs, they have that you know.
00:51:30.420 --> 00:51:40.500 Phyllis Quinlan: shot in the arm kind of thing for 20 seconds as they're saying goodbye and you're hearing the credits, you know your programming and what your platform has provided.
00:51:40.830 --> 00:51:55.080 Phyllis Quinlan: And you know the the the different programming within your network has provided is a respite from that an alternative from that that allows us to really celebrate.
00:51:55.620 --> 00:52:09.000 Phyllis Quinlan: All of us, not just the events around us, not just our reaction to certain events, but to celebrate human illness, yes, and if we are able to connect with our human illness.
00:52:09.330 --> 00:52:20.850 Phyllis Quinlan: That is really an end and lean into some of the emotions that some of these programs introduced to us or provide a safe platform for us to discuss or maybe pull apart, a little bit.
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:33.270 Phyllis Quinlan: You know that's where mental health lives that's where resilience lives in leaning in and not closing down and wanting to hide under your bed, because the fear mongering is just unbelievable.
00:52:33.690 --> 00:52:36.870 Frank R. Harrison: And also training people to live in the now continuously.
00:52:37.080 --> 00:52:40.440 Phyllis Quinlan: Well, not if that's an impossibility.
00:52:40.470 --> 00:52:56.580 Phyllis Quinlan: But if you want to have people live in the now more Okay, so you know that that that's a little bit more realistic but the other piece is that your platform supports connectedness and the news supports.
00:52:56.580 --> 00:53:05.550 Phyllis Quinlan: divisiveness and I, I want to thank you and others, like you, who provide alternative radio or.
00:53:07.050 --> 00:53:19.470 Phyllis Quinlan: Other talk networks, where people can actually share and exchange in a respectful manner, you know divergent thinking new thinking you know, there are some people that listen to the program set.
00:53:19.980 --> 00:53:25.260 Phyllis Quinlan: frank and I have done and go well, they really they really left town today didn't they whoo they went out there.
00:53:25.680 --> 00:53:34.410 Phyllis Quinlan: But that's Okay, you know every now and then you have to go out there every now and then like with Peggy pella sorry it got very, very real when you.
00:53:34.410 --> 00:53:35.790 Phyllis Quinlan: start to hear about living with.
00:53:35.820 --> 00:53:57.510 Phyllis Quinlan: Diabetes Type one regardless of that what we have been celebrating is the ability to be who you are and not deny who you are to show up on this program fully present we are interested in listening, we are interested in learning we're not going to judge we're going to stay really curious.
00:53:58.560 --> 00:54:09.240 Phyllis Quinlan: And then we're going to celebrate the fact that you know, this is a new way of thinking and the positivity that can come out of that and that is indeed foundation of mental health and.
00:54:09.630 --> 00:54:18.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: I just want to say phyllis you really struck upon some because, although the network now is called talk radio dot nyc the name of the company is actually talking alternative.
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:20.130 Frank R. Harrison: Broadcasting yeah.
00:54:20.220 --> 00:54:30.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And what i've always said is we're an alternative to mainstream media because mainstream media plays with that fear because that's what it takes to get advertisers in order to get listeners and stuff.
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:36.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: Right we're not a mainstream company I don't have to play that game that's why we don't have any device of topics.
00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:42.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: On the show, I mean the only political show that we've ever had on the network was very sharp.
00:54:43.950 --> 00:54:48.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: And he ran for office on the for governor in New York state on the libertarian ticket.
00:54:49.260 --> 00:54:53.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: But his show, even though, was a political show, he was just expressing his ideas and he's so smart and he and.
00:54:54.180 --> 00:55:01.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: He just kind of bringing up these issues and saying why are we doing this and I thought it was actually very good, because he wasn't approaching it of like.
00:55:02.010 --> 00:55:08.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: You know us versus them, he was just saying hey these are my ideas, this is what i'm trying to put out there and so that's why i'm very.
00:55:09.060 --> 00:55:20.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consultant: mindfully have always you know look towards people who are either going to inspire uplift empower educate our audience that's what the station is all about, so thank you for.
00:55:20.850 --> 00:55:22.260 Frank R. Harrison: Recognizing you know and.
00:55:22.350 --> 00:55:28.170 Phyllis Quinlan: You know it didn't take me but 10 minutes you know meeting frank after your gracious invitation.
00:55:28.590 --> 00:55:43.680 Phyllis Quinlan: You know, to realize that I had a connection with him and then surprisingly enough he had a connection with me and then, as they say, the rest is history, you know what I mean but but that's a that's a wonderful two people.
00:55:44.250 --> 00:55:55.830 Phyllis Quinlan: Coming from two areas of life and without this program more than likely would have never met unless he showed up with a seizure in my emergency to take care of them and the likelihood of that is low.
00:55:55.890 --> 00:55:56.250 Frank R. Harrison: Right.
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.130 Phyllis Quinlan: Oh, my God, you know, so the.
00:55:59.190 --> 00:56:15.990 Phyllis Quinlan: You know the the idea of we can bring so many people together, who wouldn't have an opportunity to connect and share and learn and and pick through this makes sense, and I can keep it, this is really a little over the top, for me, but nonetheless.
00:56:16.260 --> 00:56:29.430 Phyllis Quinlan: You know, we can celebrate the spirit of humanity in the spirit of being inquisitive and and you know and not have to shut down and be divisive and say it's one way or it's no way.
00:56:29.940 --> 00:56:37.290 Frank R. Harrison: And that all being said being that we have less than a minute I have to give all these following shout outs, which reflects everything that both you and phyllis have just.
00:56:37.560 --> 00:56:47.430 Frank R. Harrison: talked about as a result of the last basically 52 weeks of frank about health read the Gray, now has a tick tock series because of her exposure on this show.
00:56:47.850 --> 00:56:58.890 Frank R. Harrison: At the same time, you know the social justice, show that I did with tanya as well as with David Lee I have already told you brooklyn tech wants to launch a podcast with talk radio nyc which i'm in development with.
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:07.440 Frank R. Harrison: You know Hilton hotels, has been talking to me and we've had further conversations we're going to have an actual show from Hilton at the end of June.
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:16.500 Frank R. Harrison: At the same time there's no way I can do this show anymore without a Co host so phyllis here are definitely besides next week I know you're you're dealing with the.
00:57:16.590 --> 00:57:22.770 Phyllis Quinlan: Different complex there's recognition week next week, so I am up to my eyeballs and saying thank you to nurses.
00:57:23.100 --> 00:57:33.180 Frank R. Harrison: Exactly, but at the same time, I also wanted to say, the people that you've referred me to Sally councilman George p&l she's coming on the week of June 20, by the way.
00:57:34.410 --> 00:57:41.850 Frank R. Harrison: sally's comedic style if you've actually seen the episodes we did together she's actually begged me to come in and do another routine with me so.
00:57:42.240 --> 00:57:53.310 Frank R. Harrison: The point is, is that, like what phyllis just said, talking alternative broadcasting or talk radio nyc has run a new family together and i'm going to make this more of a family show.
00:57:53.640 --> 00:58:02.790 Frank R. Harrison: I Hilton ready show, and like phil is what you and i've been talking about if we can really push this forward with nyu or any other health systems in the city.
00:58:03.180 --> 00:58:17.370 Frank R. Harrison: make it a webinar series that earns extra credit, you know, and I think you and I were you know that's down the road but it's still on the table and it's an alternative to the type of media that we've been seeing all this, all this time on CNN or the other news channel.
00:58:18.270 --> 00:58:18.930 Phyllis Quinlan: is healthy.
00:58:19.410 --> 00:58:28.350 Frank R. Harrison: The future is healthy hint hint that all being said, I know you're going to have next week, the Dorothy Martin level would you announced.
00:58:28.410 --> 00:58:29.670 Frank R. Harrison: This afternoon, but you're going to.
00:58:29.670 --> 00:58:36.300 Frank R. Harrison: love it yes i'm going to be, of course, glued to it and being that next week is going to be.
00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:41.610 Frank R. Harrison: A single show I don't know I may come up with some creative ideas but i'll let you know this weekend.
00:58:42.390 --> 00:58:55.620 Frank R. Harrison: And that all being said Thank you again Sam, not just for today, but for the last six years and, by the way, phyllis we we meet every third Wednesday of the month, you should come to the next host meeting, which is the third Wednesday of.
00:58:55.770 --> 00:59:08.910 Frank R. Harrison: Okay, but everything is right now okay and, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for staying tuned to this episode of frank about health will be back next week and we cuz we're out of time i'll just say stay tuned for whatever's next okay.
00:59:09.180 --> 00:59:10.230 Phyllis Quinlan: Everybody Thank you.
00:59:10.470 --> 00:59:12.960 Frank R. Harrison: Have a good night and see you soon bye bye.