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Tuesday, February 22, 2022
Facebook Live Video from 2022/02/22 - Play To Win Better Productivity Through Recreation

Facebook Live Video from 2022/02/22 - Play To Win Better Productivity Through Recreation


2022/02/22 - Play To Win Better Productivity Through Recreation

[NEW EPISODE] Play To Win: Better Productivity Through Recreation.

Our audience (including employers and employees) will learn how to infuse recreation and creativity into a busy work week, to establish better health, improved productivity, and work-life balance.  Listeners will learn helpful tips on how to make creative play a priority, how to be consistent with breaks, and how to show up for themselves and others. 

Dr. Lance Knaub - a physical therapist, business coach, and best-selling author, and I will be discussing how business owners and employers can combat the pandemic's burnout and fatigue by tapping into / scheduling leisure, creativity, and play. Entrepreneurs - don't get caught in the headspace of work-work-work - we all need to rejuvenate to be more productive!




Tune in for this informative conversation at or watch the Facebook Livestream by Clicking Here.

Show Notes

Segment 1

Tonight, Dr. Lance Knaub is joining Eric Sarver as a returning guest. The topic for today is about infusing recreation and creativity into a busy work week. Dr. Lance Knaub is the founder of Breakthru Physical Therapy and Denali Consulting. Knaub says what inspired him to get into healthcare was helping people. This was something he really fell in love with and having an impact on people's wellbeing. Today he is also passionate about helping business owners with their financial health and putting themselves first such as paying themselves. Lance talks about experts who advocate working 24/7 and being all in. However, he says that you need to draw a line. Lance believes that you have to know your cause and your mission and that as an entrepreneur, you don’t need to work consistently without giving your time to something or someone else. Eric mentions that for some people, it is important to work long hours as everyone’s situation is different. But he mentions movies and tv giving almost a stereotype of working endlessly.

Segment 2

Eric and Lance discuss how people have incorporated more recreation and creativity since the beginning of Covid19. Because of the technology today, Lance says that now it’s up to the individual person to set boundaries and take care of themselves. Technology has allowed many to keep moving and working, but Eric says that it has also created unhealthy boundaries as anyone can easily schedule meetings and emails any time during the day. Lance also speaks about the difficulty of the kinds of interactions we all couldn’t always have because of the pandemic. He mentions how employees wanting different workplaces is changing the world as it is no longer black or white. Some people may want to work in person, others online, and some hybrid. As a physical therapist, Knaub mentions prioritizing recreation and leisure especially if your time isn’t entirely limited. There are some people for instance who no longer take the time to commute to work. He says that planning and creating a strategy is important. For him, the first step in his well being is mental health. But everything will come together with whichever focus you have whether it is mental health, sleep or nutrition.

Segment 3

Segment 4


00:00:44.370 --> 00:00:50.970 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Good evening, welcome to employment law today i'm your host erick solver i'm an employment law and business law attorney.

00:00:51.450 --> 00:01:01.590 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I host this weekly live talk radio show, and this live video broadcast every Tuesday night from 5pm to 6pm Eastern standard time right here on talk radio nyc.

00:01:02.010 --> 00:01:11.370 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And each week I have guests, to discuss some of the most interesting and novel topics that employers and companies are facing during these trying times.

00:01:11.790 --> 00:01:19.140 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And in that way, I like to welcome to the show tonight RPS you'd actually returning guests rehabbing out of mine.

00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:32.280 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Dr lance na, who is the founder of breakthrough physical therapy and fitness and also denali consulting so lance you're unmuted does remind you, but I want to unmute and say, welcome to the show it's great to have you back.

00:01:33.330 --> 00:01:39.540 Lance Knaub: Thank you so much it's fabulous to be back, I appreciate the opportunity and look forward to our chat.

00:01:40.020 --> 00:01:46.530 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yep same here, I think it should be really interesting discussion, I think, very engaging and something that our audience should know that relate to you.

00:01:46.890 --> 00:01:52.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Which i'll get to in just a moment and introduce you, I want to first give our audience a taste the topic we're discussing this evening.

00:01:52.980 --> 00:02:03.900 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Our topic is called play to win better activity through recreation and what we're really talking about is that with this ever changing work for Australia and me.

00:02:04.470 --> 00:02:11.820 Eric Sarver, Esq.: For me mode to hybrid and everything in between many business owners and employers and employees alike, because suffering from brand.

00:02:12.540 --> 00:02:22.980 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Perhaps, others have lost some sense the recreational activities during coven and it becomes so focused on work they forgot how to tap into and schedule, leisure, creativity and play.

00:02:23.790 --> 00:02:32.850 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And you know, this is a big issue I fight for entrepreneurs, that we get caught up in the headspace of work, work, work, when in fact we all need to rejuvenate to be more productive.

00:02:33.330 --> 00:02:42.960 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So tonight's episode of employment law today lance and I will discuss ways to bring leisure creative play and fun back into the work life balance and.

00:02:43.620 --> 00:02:52.860 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I can't think of a better, I guess, after the show for this competition and lance and with that note and allow me to give you a proper introduction.

00:02:55.050 --> 00:02:59.790 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Okay, so my guest this evening, as I mentioned folks is Dr lance nub.

00:03:00.450 --> 00:03:10.800 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Who helps entrepreneurs scale their businesses and create the lives they love, while protecting and improving their health, especially during times of overwhelm and extreme stress.

00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:24.930 Eric Sarver, Esq.: lance's a founder of breakthrough physical therapy and fitness a growing multimillion dollar company whose mission is to be the communities choice in physical therapy and fitness offerings with over 50 employees and five locations.

00:03:25.590 --> 00:03:34.260 Eric Sarver, Esq.: More recently lansdowne denali consulting to help entrepreneurs create their visions and build businesses that are a valuable asset.

00:03:34.620 --> 00:03:41.550 Eric Sarver, Esq.: which can run without them operating the day to day for short or extended periods of time and instead operated by their fearless team.

00:03:42.300 --> 00:03:50.940 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i'm Dr knobs first publication called a 4% breakout room and Amazon bestseller shares all of his harder lessons.

00:03:51.420 --> 00:04:03.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: With entrepreneurs and leaders to help them save two years of time avoid burnout and overstressed and prevent them from joining the 96% of small business owners who fail within the first 10 years.

00:04:03.690 --> 00:04:09.510 Eric Sarver, Esq.: lance is an entrepreneur a doctor of physical therapy certified strength and conditioning specialist.

00:04:10.140 --> 00:04:24.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And adjunct assistant professor at rutgers university doctors have physical therapy program Dr lance now lives with his wife and three children in medford New Jersey, I fell in the Jersey and think and again lance cloud, you can be with us tonight.

00:04:24.780 --> 00:04:26.700 Lance Knaub: Absolutely can't wait let's do it.

00:04:27.210 --> 00:04:45.060 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah let's get into it all right thing, so first question for you, I was wondering if you can, if you can just tell us more about yourself, like, for example, you know what prompted you to found breakthrough fitness and what inspired you to become a leadership, businesses and yeah there's.

00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:46.530 Lance Knaub: there's definitely some.

00:04:47.100 --> 00:04:50.190 Lance Knaub: commonalities know probably what inspired me to get into.

00:04:50.190 --> 00:04:50.970 Eric Sarver, Esq.: healthcare.

00:04:51.450 --> 00:05:00.150 Lance Knaub: And I really loved working with people and wanted to be active, and so I started off as a pharmacy student and I didn't like chemistry, so that wasn't a great fit.

00:05:00.810 --> 00:05:05.640 Lance Knaub: And I was fortunate, not to have any injuries in high school, which is how a lot of people discovered physical therapy.

00:05:06.270 --> 00:05:20.730 Lance Knaub: but luckily I you know, Andrea Aaron Haim classmate and I rutgers exercise science program mentioned, she was volunteering at Robert wood Johnson, and I checked it out and loved it fell in love I fell in love with the helping people part.

00:05:21.270 --> 00:05:27.630 Lance Knaub: And you know, really, especially I started off in brain injury and moved into orthopedics and orthopedics you can help people.

00:05:28.050 --> 00:05:35.250 Lance Knaub: and sports medicine very quickly so that was a lot of fun really to have an impact, and similarly now helping entrepreneurs.

00:05:35.760 --> 00:05:46.830 Lance Knaub: You know, there is definitely you know the commonality of people to stay healthy, you know, to get into stay healthy and mentally spiritually physically.

00:05:47.280 --> 00:05:59.550 Lance Knaub: And also financially right as we just talked about this failure Stat you know 96% of small businesses failing in 10 years i'm very passionate about helping entrepreneurs to actually pay themselves commensurate.

00:05:59.580 --> 00:06:02.190 Lance Knaub: For the roles they have in the in the organization.

00:06:02.760 --> 00:06:12.480 Lance Knaub: And then achieve double digit profitability, you know there's you know someone named Michael mccalla which has a book and a concept called profit first, so I really advocate that.

00:06:12.900 --> 00:06:15.600 Lance Knaub: You know, not an entrepreneur struggle with that realizing that.

00:06:16.500 --> 00:06:22.830 Lance Knaub: You know, even though from a tax standpoint accounting standpoint, like everything that flows through them is considered profit and so on and so on.

00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:31.470 Lance Knaub: However, if we if we put in a fair market value for replacing yourself first and we called the rest profit that's a much better way to look at things.

00:06:34.980 --> 00:06:37.590 Eric Sarver, Esq.: interesting point you made there, towards the end of what you're saying.

00:06:38.820 --> 00:06:46.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: When you said that you focus on also financial health and encouraging people to pay themselves right sort of put themselves, first in terms of payment.

00:06:46.740 --> 00:06:54.480 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Even kind of reminded me of our topic a little bit because part of the work life play balance is hey don't put your recreational needs first to.

00:06:54.840 --> 00:06:59.790 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Put yourself, first in terms of play or leisure, so I think it's interesting, you know that you.

00:07:00.150 --> 00:07:07.260 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Talking about people like self care in terms of financial self care, and then we have self care in terms of recreation leisure rest so.

00:07:07.650 --> 00:07:13.230 Eric Sarver, Esq.: um I think that's an interesting point and then one other point you made about wanting to help people and how it.

00:07:13.710 --> 00:07:24.210 Eric Sarver, Esq.: dovetails into what you're doing now and business consultant, I think we just think very something for audience to kind of you don't take into account, so I appreciate you sharing that with us to that that backdrop.

00:07:25.290 --> 00:07:27.600 Lance Knaub: But definitely it's all woven together right, I mean if.

00:07:27.630 --> 00:07:28.290 Lance Knaub: you're not.

00:07:28.500 --> 00:07:36.600 Lance Knaub: Healthy financially and from a cash point you know your personal household or your business you're you know you're done unfortunately so.

00:07:37.200 --> 00:07:47.910 Lance Knaub: yeah you can you know the basic financial advice right probably three to six months of you know liquidity in your home and your your business get a credit line I was helping some small business than their.

00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:58.650 Lance Knaub: Third, full year you know they just got a credit line of $33,000 and they're sleeping a little easier at night and first second credit line, you need these fundamentals in place for sure.

00:07:59.550 --> 00:08:09.180 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right, I think I think one thing that the Covenant he taught us to is that we're all you know it could be too close to the things being originally Darren is treated eating.

00:08:09.510 --> 00:08:16.440 Eric Sarver, Esq.: emergency funds and backup and financial stability, so I think absolutely when it's really good you know good good points there.

00:08:17.700 --> 00:08:20.520 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And, essentially, I think you know we talked about this topic of.

00:08:21.570 --> 00:08:37.860 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I call a play to win right the syncopation leisure and also think about this, I think you and I had this conversation we spoke before the show last week about think how people you know I think like often there are these messages that are growing up to from society from movies.

00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:47.820 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think, contribute to the people overworking and maybe not taking enough time time out for themselves, recreation and play so i'm wondering like.

00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:59.910 Eric Sarver, Esq.: What are some of the flawed perhaps flawed beliefs or misguided attitudes towards recreational player that perhaps you think my factor into a business owners burnout overextension.

00:09:00.630 --> 00:09:03.360 Lance Knaub: yeah that's a great question this is gonna be a fun.

00:09:03.690 --> 00:09:12.390 Lance Knaub: topic to talk about you know there's definitely some experts like Gary vee Gary van der chuck who advocate, for you know, really.

00:09:13.260 --> 00:09:30.720 Lance Knaub: Working 24 seven just working a lot and just being all in, and you know someone I emulate john Lee Dumas from entrepreneur on fire, you know he you know I think he kind of describes it a little better, he advocates, certainly in your startup phase right, you might really have to go hard.

00:09:31.170 --> 00:09:32.190 Eric Sarver, Esq.: However, you need to.

00:09:32.190 --> 00:09:34.560 Lance Knaub: draw this line, and this is where I see.

00:09:34.800 --> 00:09:36.240 Eric Sarver, Esq.: The mistake right, but the.

00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:43.410 Lance Knaub: challenge for entrepreneurs, when you hit a certain threshold or milestone, how you kind of take it down a gear take it down a notch.

00:09:43.860 --> 00:10:00.210 Lance Knaub: and make some of that transition so yeah so there's definitely you know a lot of you know people advocating and just this mindset that once you're entrepreneur you really have to be you know doing it round the clock, which I don't necessarily true right I.

00:10:00.750 --> 00:10:10.920 Lance Knaub: think you have to know your enough, you know know what's most important to you so to me it's like you know know your your why your cause your reason your mission.

00:10:11.370 --> 00:10:19.830 Lance Knaub: And figure out what success looks like to you because it would be very easy if you don't do some introspective personal you know thinking.

00:10:20.040 --> 00:10:22.170 Lance Knaub: That you.

00:10:23.490 --> 00:10:28.950 Lance Knaub: You may even hit your your company targets, but then, if you lost your health right or you lost your family.

00:10:29.910 --> 00:10:30.450 Lance Knaub: It would.

00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:32.430 Eric Sarver, Esq.: It would not be success, you know I just.

00:10:32.430 --> 00:10:37.260 Lance Knaub: joined a group of very successful entrepreneurs called go abundance and there's 600.

00:10:37.530 --> 00:10:48.600 Lance Knaub: People and the conference I think had 400 and there was a definite pattern, and it was many of them have already damaged their relationships are losing their relationships with their their partners.

00:10:49.140 --> 00:11:04.680 Lance Knaub: And you know, so you really have to protect not only your health, but your relationships, you know with your partner your family some of the some of the year, you know priorities right some of the core things in life are it's very easy to to not do that, along the way.

00:11:06.180 --> 00:11:17.640 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah I think so absolutely I think you know we could points about about what you said about beyond just you know the success rate how we define it and being so true and and you know if success.

00:11:18.810 --> 00:11:22.620 Eric Sarver, Esq.: looks like I think only the business or the company or the firm doing well.

00:11:24.090 --> 00:11:33.300 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Then, if there's No one to share with or no health it's kind of the gates itself what i'm also I see an interesting point is how much like our society they.

00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:44.310 Eric Sarver, Esq.: tend to kind of either glorify workaholism and don't get me wrong hard work and long hours, it may be necessary times for anyone, especially starting out, I know, when I started my law practice I get 2001.

00:11:44.730 --> 00:11:50.580 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I was not you know doing a nine to five, you know Fridays are definitely wasn't like that at all, but but um.

00:11:50.940 --> 00:11:57.390 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think that our society, you know in movies and books and kind of just creative myths and legends think it's always easy.

00:11:57.690 --> 00:12:05.850 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You kind of see like i'm an attorney So when I was you know coming into law school and watching those movies, and other kind of the underdog lawyer against the big you know.

00:12:06.750 --> 00:12:12.810 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Evil person or corporation, and the you know be kind of you know, in the conference room at three o'clock in the morning with frankie sure that.

00:12:13.290 --> 00:12:26.370 Eric Sarver, Esq.: The literal pizza boxes all over the conference room table in person there the tie on done, you know financing trying to stay away to write their brief and it makes its way into many I think you know argue for entrepreneurs and startups technology.

00:12:27.510 --> 00:12:35.310 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But there's a cost to that right, and I think it's like the message says that that's what we have to do you know to be successful, to be to be critical noble.

00:12:35.760 --> 00:12:52.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And if we're not taking care of ourselves in mind, we have a saying or do that it's all self self preservation no self care is not self indulgence, it could self preservation so kind of food for thought there you know.

00:12:52.770 --> 00:12:56.820 Lance Knaub: yeah and you know I know we're you know head into a break here.

00:12:57.150 --> 00:12:57.420 Eric Sarver, Esq.: For.

00:12:57.510 --> 00:13:01.140 Lance Knaub: Your industry, I mean is notorious right, I mean.

00:13:01.170 --> 00:13:01.590 Eric Sarver, Esq.: lawyers.

00:13:01.830 --> 00:13:12.180 Lance Knaub: Really, are you know there's a sort of an expectation and a standard there, so the fact that you're focused on this and sharing this within your colleagues and to the rest of the entrepreneurial world is is admirable.

00:13:13.740 --> 00:13:17.460 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Thank you, I appreciate that you know I appreciate that you're here tonight to help.

00:13:18.210 --> 00:13:26.520 Eric Sarver, Esq.: share this as well and talk about this topic and so and you're right, we are actually at the first commercial break, so I will turn it over to our sponsors I just know that.

00:13:26.940 --> 00:13:32.790 Eric Sarver, Esq.: For those out there, listening to you employment law today i'm your host erick summer our guest tonight, Dr lin's down.

00:13:33.930 --> 00:13:36.990 Eric Sarver, Esq.: to know salting stick around we'll be right back.

00:15:51.300 --> 00:15:59.850 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to employment law today, once again I am your host erick solver I guess tonight, Dr lance now founder of breakthrough.

00:16:01.110 --> 00:16:07.020 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Sorry wrench breakthrough physical therapy and fitness and the knowledge consulting services is holding.

00:16:08.040 --> 00:16:17.010 Eric Sarver, Esq.: counseling firm and we're talking about this concept with the play to win the idea of scheduling leisure creativity and fun.

00:16:17.340 --> 00:16:25.350 Eric Sarver, Esq.: into our work life balance and enjoy working to become more productive and healthier and I think more sustainable in the long run.

00:16:26.310 --> 00:16:45.360 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So I wanted to ask you lance about an issue that probably never gets mentioned much these days just kind of a coven a team and wondering how do you think the coven 19 pandemic may have contributed to say an imbalance of work life and recreation over the last two years.

00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:47.070 Lance Knaub: yeah it's been.

00:16:47.970 --> 00:16:49.830 Lance Knaub: really interesting experiment.

00:16:49.920 --> 00:17:05.820 Lance Knaub: Right and so many ways, you know people didn't have commutes and you know they were able to you know use technology and leverage technology so they may have you know gain some exercise time.

00:17:06.930 --> 00:17:07.590 Lance Knaub: However.

00:17:09.030 --> 00:17:23.250 Lance Knaub: They had their families at home right, I know, in my household my kids were doing homeschool you know, most of the households and it seems like right pretty predominantly the greater stress fell on the you know the moms of the home so.

00:17:24.090 --> 00:17:40.890 Lance Knaub: You have this amazing like mix of combination like maybe people have some more time, but now, with all the technology like really unless you set up boundaries intentionally some people weren't able to shut it off right, we may have talked about that, and so I think that.

00:17:41.940 --> 00:17:48.780 Lance Knaub: Now it's going to fall on the individual little bit more to to set up those boundaries and set up that framework.

00:17:49.290 --> 00:18:03.540 Lance Knaub: You know, you and I spoke, one thing that i'm happy to share with people and really you know some of the you know the corporations that i'm you know small business that i've been working with really enjoyed it's time map and I call it a success schedule.

00:18:03.870 --> 00:18:14.610 Lance Knaub: And I really challenge people to put their priorities down on paper first so they can you know build their life around them and not miss their sleep in their exercise and.

00:18:15.030 --> 00:18:22.500 Lance Knaub: You know, eating, you know, healthy and that might involve you know food preparation, and now it might involve a commute again and some of those things.

00:18:23.580 --> 00:18:29.850 Lance Knaub: And you know it's not going to be perfect right, I mean most people if we can kind of live 75% of that.

00:18:29.940 --> 00:18:41.640 Lance Knaub: On paper that's probably not bad it's never going to be 100% so yeah so it's really been an awesome dynamic experiment some good things some challenging things, but I do.

00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:51.360 Lance Knaub: think that right, the challenges create opportunities we all have to continue to you know evolve and improve and.

00:18:52.050 --> 00:19:03.570 Lance Knaub: be better versions of ourselves, because you know it would be easy right now I know everyone was on social media early in the pandemic people were just like totally just glued to technology and we were trying to figure out what was going on and.

00:19:04.260 --> 00:19:07.350 Lance Knaub: And I know, for me, I had to you know we have furloughed our team.

00:19:07.350 --> 00:19:16.380 Lance Knaub: Unfortunately, was just crazy and I was on site, it was really scary right I couldn't get enough news about really how dangerous things were so.

00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:17.670 Lance Knaub: yeah.

00:19:17.790 --> 00:19:23.400 Lance Knaub: So I think those are a few a few of the issues and it's been like a little bit of a mixed bag and it's still kind of playing out.

00:19:24.810 --> 00:19:30.750 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah absolutely you know I hear you about that, including your own experience, I appreciate you sharing that with us to.

00:19:31.230 --> 00:19:40.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: it's like here the you know you mentioned about this technology that in one of the one hand, I think aloud many of us to keep going and continue.

00:19:40.470 --> 00:19:52.020 Eric Sarver, Esq.: functioning as companies and startups as work, you know, workers and such, and I mean it's thinking this pandemic had struck us all say in 1990 you know 95 weeks, maybe a very different story.

00:19:53.100 --> 00:19:58.980 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But I hear you about how technology Pepsi and the use of technology and remote working may have definitely created some.

00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:09.840 Eric Sarver, Esq.: unhealthy blurred boundaries, many companies, maybe employers like people into the workflow with and easily just will send a taxi or you know schedule a zoom for anytime a day and.

00:20:10.740 --> 00:20:20.220 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think that's a good point that you know, we need to look at it, like the dependent, because people were sort of tied to their computers more she weren't emails and coming in more press as well.

00:20:21.330 --> 00:20:30.390 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I also wonder if, maybe you know people I kind of lost touch with some of their usual joy and creativity, because so many things were shut down.

00:20:30.810 --> 00:20:37.620 Eric Sarver, Esq.: watching the first year people man had maybe a Bowling league I didn't say Tuesday Bowling don't on wind that was shut down.

00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:44.460 Eric Sarver, Esq.: karaoke or just people I think kind of gotten maybe into this space of saying okay well.

00:20:44.940 --> 00:20:57.240 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I can't do much you can do mass or just work and homeschool my kids like you know, I think it was helping them and stuff so I wondering how much all of this, I think all that to say these external factors that may be contributing to.

00:20:58.290 --> 00:21:01.140 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Perhaps a worse work life balance, maybe.

00:21:01.500 --> 00:21:03.810 Lance Knaub: yeah well I think you're you're touching on something really.

00:21:04.050 --> 00:21:05.160 Eric Sarver, Esq.: cool right, I am.

00:21:05.520 --> 00:21:07.140 Lance Knaub: In person can't be replaced.

00:21:07.530 --> 00:21:09.510 Lance Knaub: Yes, social relationships, you know.

00:21:10.230 --> 00:21:12.720 Lance Knaub: I had the benefit of still you know.

00:21:12.750 --> 00:21:18.450 Lance Knaub: Going in person, some and my wife didn't so you know because she.

00:21:18.510 --> 00:21:32.280 Lance Knaub: wasn't treating patients, so you know she really during that time period, like you know she definitely vocalized really, this is a lot more challenging i'm not really getting that social stimuli, except for our kids right, and you know as fun, as they are it's still not the.

00:21:32.280 --> 00:21:33.960 Lance Knaub: same as an adult conversation.

00:21:34.230 --> 00:21:34.560 No.

00:21:35.670 --> 00:21:40.140 Lance Knaub: yeah so but but yeah many people, you know, were able to.

00:21:40.890 --> 00:21:46.080 Lance Knaub: If they had the discipline, you know teachers were able to now take a walk at lines and.

00:21:46.830 --> 00:21:51.000 Lance Knaub: You know many professions, especially without these you know massive commutes that many people had.

00:21:51.480 --> 00:22:03.660 Lance Knaub: And now I think right connecting to all the expertise, you have and employment law, I think the innovative companies, I hear that it seems it's a debate right now it's it's a device like some companies want people back 100% and.

00:22:03.780 --> 00:22:14.610 Lance Knaub: yeah maybe maybe and people want to maybe be 100% home and there's this whole thing, but I really feel like the innovative leaders and companies are going to try to listen to their people.

00:22:15.060 --> 00:22:21.630 Lance Knaub: and have come up with a solution that works for them to customize it's probably not going to be like black or white anymore, the world's changed yeah.

00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:32.730 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah it's interesting, I think you know I, I feel, for your wife having that lack of it, so stimulation, I know it was hard being on zoom work from home, you know in my profession.

00:22:33.360 --> 00:22:43.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: In the courts role, you know any nonsense litigation was told was delayed for a while temporarily stave off shut down, etc, and then back in zoom only in different.

00:22:43.770 --> 00:22:49.590 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Mediation retain them by phone and do man in person, so there's a lot of things going on for us attorneys as well we didn't have much.

00:22:49.980 --> 00:22:58.560 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Fish patient or client console to have the phone on zoom and he missed out in social stimulation, which I think I think it's an important point, and I think that, in many ways.

00:22:58.980 --> 00:23:12.420 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know, having social connection is a good stepping stone into recreation and play you know people come into the office, and then they go hey I want to go out into somewhere to dinner list or they meet up and they say hey let's go this place and the weekends, but.

00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:19.650 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But I also want to say that you know hearing something you're saying tonight when I give one for us to it like he's talking about.

00:23:20.100 --> 00:23:24.150 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Some of the silver lining in all these situations like you said earlier, you how about.

00:23:24.630 --> 00:23:31.410 Eric Sarver, Esq.: With the you know Kobe nemec that there were challenges also create opportunities and I heard you say just now that I think, while the commute.

00:23:31.710 --> 00:23:37.920 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know, may have technology may have new people kind of further apart and he could do exercise, you know go for a walk.

00:23:38.580 --> 00:23:43.980 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Do you think they could not have normally do when they they are spending three hours a day, on average, around chip commuting.

00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:48.420 Eric Sarver, Esq.: to and from the city or something like that, before in our you know our drive with that so.

00:23:48.930 --> 00:23:56.460 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think that's a really good point because a part of our show is to you know highlight challenging issues and problems, but also what are the solutions you know what are the.

00:23:57.030 --> 00:24:03.150 Eric Sarver, Esq.: What are the what's the, what are the remedies to these challenges, so i'm kind of hearing that and what you're saying your message.

00:24:03.570 --> 00:24:13.560 Lance Knaub: yeah and you know as a physical therapist and personal trainer that business for for exercise just one of the components of health, the biggest excuses, always been I don't have enough time.

00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:28.680 Lance Knaub: To me, and one thing that I mentioned in my book was okay when commute time goes away, that is your time right there's no excuses anymore So yes, no I love the fact that you're highlighting the the silver lining and the opportunity from challenges.

00:24:29.520 --> 00:24:29.880 yep.

00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:36.240 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Absolutely, you know I think I think an important thing to do in any conversation and discussion for sure.

00:24:37.290 --> 00:24:45.210 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah it's like it makes you kind of think about you know just the whole idea of I think one thing you mentioned iron chef scheduling in time.

00:24:45.690 --> 00:24:56.490 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I guess, we can circle back to this later come back to this idea of any tools that you know consulting my use for this, but I think that it's a good point that you know people need to schedule.

00:24:56.970 --> 00:25:04.590 Eric Sarver, Esq.: In leisure, I know you shared with me some interesting cool document was sort of a success type schedule success map where you put.

00:25:05.610 --> 00:25:19.410 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Not just your work and the time for meetings or client color patient, but also the time to go to the gym have time to maybe you know cook dinner take a break or go for a walk I think it's so important, because I know that for me.

00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:27.690 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Well, as i've got busier You know, as I got older and you know wife and son, you know we're taking the firm to a new level.

00:25:28.650 --> 00:25:36.330 Eric Sarver, Esq.: The going to gym which used to be more of a photo or whatever and i'm up for it has to be scheduled, otherwise it will get done and if I don't.

00:25:36.780 --> 00:25:42.360 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i'm kind of a calendar and say i'm going to go, you know these days have lunch and these days in the morning.

00:25:43.350 --> 00:25:52.350 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I just won't do it because i'll it today it's busy, and then i'll say go out to dinner and then i'm putting my son down for us, you know nine times bedtime story and describing you know.

00:25:52.770 --> 00:26:01.650 Eric Sarver, Esq.: These two and the whole bedtime routine like which, as we all know, the two year old that time always goes and super smoothly, no issues they go right to sleep like they don't want to you know.

00:26:03.060 --> 00:26:13.380 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And so you know, but that and that i'm very i'm moved by which one it is but i'm also a super tired and I kept in the county and linkedin a lot of things going to gym.

00:26:13.950 --> 00:26:26.520 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Is froze my mind, I think, maybe the same goes for brand scheduling in you know fun terms of reading a book or so i'm wondering what do you think about this idea of scheduling and play time man.

00:26:27.210 --> 00:26:27.720 Lance Knaub: Well, I think.

00:26:27.870 --> 00:26:31.650 Lance Knaub: Your schedule is probably not the optimal word, you know, I think.

00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:32.940 Lance Knaub: we're choice matters.

00:26:32.940 --> 00:26:37.290 Lance Knaub: And, to me it really comes down to planning and being strategic right.

00:26:37.410 --> 00:26:47.670 Lance Knaub: A little foresight, because similar to me right, we have three kids and with their activities there's absolutely no chance you know we're in nine Seventh and fifth grade.

00:26:48.030 --> 00:26:48.420 Eric Sarver, Esq.: know that.

00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:55.770 Lance Knaub: i'm going to get any you know my exercise time or much done for myself in the evening so even though it's not my preferred.

00:26:55.770 --> 00:27:07.140 Lance Knaub: Time i'm getting up you know 530 and you know doing my personal routine and doing my exercise, you know to start the day so kind of paying myself first right and.

00:27:07.560 --> 00:27:09.540 Lance Knaub: You know, going back to the financial and.

00:27:09.600 --> 00:27:12.750 Lance Knaub: All these parts of health mixing together, and I really do feel like.

00:27:13.530 --> 00:27:31.050 Lance Knaub: You know, on this, the the challenge opportunity point like met the mindset and mental health is probably step one I really debated a lot yeah when you kind of tackle health what you take on first but for for me, you know, in the 4% breakthrough process, I put mental health first.

00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:32.250 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And then nutrition.

00:27:32.520 --> 00:27:47.940 Lance Knaub: And then sleep and then exercise and then posture and ergonomics, however, it is all synergistic, no matter which one of these and break into first it will compound and help you with the others Similarly, if you, you know pull an all nighter or you know don't eat well.

00:27:48.330 --> 00:27:51.540 Lance Knaub: And exercise it will get you know compound negatively.

00:27:53.040 --> 00:28:01.110 Eric Sarver, Esq.: it's like Karma rating every action has an equal and opposite, you know worried we actually and you know what you put out which what you get back I think it's you know very good point.

00:28:01.950 --> 00:28:08.010 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I, like those markers right mental health, nutrition exercise sleep and there was a fifth one in there too.

00:28:08.370 --> 00:28:11.490 Lance Knaub: yeah well look at us right now posture and ergonomics.

00:28:12.120 --> 00:28:13.410 Eric Sarver, Esq.: concert with.

00:28:13.470 --> 00:28:26.430 Lance Knaub: And this was probably the biggest reason people came out for therapy during the pandemic, I mean there was like and low back problems because people were on their cell phones more they were working on their couch they became their spine became like a see you know which is.

00:28:26.460 --> 00:28:36.210 Lance Knaub: Not what you're you know spine should be you know so yeah I have to take care of our our you know our working positions and keep moving.

00:28:36.900 --> 00:28:45.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah absolutely I think that's very important and I think you're right that you know we can aspire to tackle all five of those you know those key points and.

00:28:45.780 --> 00:28:53.490 Eric Sarver, Esq.: To the extent that we, the more we can hit on those different points that the better off, we can be you know, in terms of health and it's, so I think easy for people.

00:28:53.940 --> 00:29:06.300 Eric Sarver, Esq.: To kind of think sacrifice those things, and it kind of income comes back I think some of the messaging we get that you know sleep is kind of optional that just kind of the loading up on coffee, you know, could be a substitute again it's clearly not.

00:29:07.770 --> 00:29:13.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I didn't want to get back to more of this we are up to our next commercial great just know that.

00:29:13.860 --> 00:29:22.140 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Everyone folks at home today you're listening to or watching employment law today i'm your host Derek server our guest tonight, Dr lance time we were talking about.

00:29:22.560 --> 00:29:38.610 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Because ideally play leisure and work life balance, working hard but also having that downtime stay tuned we'll talk more about some of the challenges that lance helps business owners with and how you can benefit from some of lance's specific tools so stick around right back.

00:31:44.310 --> 00:31:46.650 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to plan a lot today.

00:31:48.510 --> 00:31:58.890 Eric Sarver, Esq.: My guest is Dr lance founder of breakthrough fitness and such great your physical therapy fitness again name on a promise that is only.

00:32:00.210 --> 00:32:00.450 Eric Sarver, Esq.: ever.

00:32:01.860 --> 00:32:10.530 Eric Sarver, Esq.: played a when you know better productivity, recreation so you're talking about things like for activity creation.

00:32:11.010 --> 00:32:20.610 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I wouldn't ask you to get perhaps you have any either boys anytime you put, examples of which ones have leisure and play that sumerians contract.

00:32:21.360 --> 00:32:33.690 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Consider, and also, are there any studies on the podcast and you may have heard me talk about cow leisure and play, can you know, improve productivity you're functioning that kind of thing.

00:32:35.970 --> 00:32:37.500 Lance Knaub: yeah so much to talk about here.

00:32:38.190 --> 00:32:38.520 Eric Sarver, Esq.: sure.

00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:39.090 You know.

00:32:40.140 --> 00:32:51.570 Lance Knaub: My my Have a nice SMILEY scratching my door So if you hear that definitely but you know heads are an amazing stress, you know reliever and stress solution and there's a lot.

00:32:51.570 --> 00:33:01.110 Lance Knaub: of data on that and during that was fun, I really got to post, you know I call it stress solutions and just really give an example, you know, several times a week.

00:33:02.190 --> 00:33:02.850 Lance Knaub: of ideas.

00:33:03.120 --> 00:33:03.810 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But I think your.

00:33:04.080 --> 00:33:04.740 question.

00:33:06.150 --> 00:33:12.420 Lance Knaub: that's miley, by the way, I think that the the beauty of all this is that.

00:33:13.380 --> 00:33:20.490 Lance Knaub: We can actually play and set these boundaries and we're going to be more have better results be more efficient and more productive.

00:33:21.150 --> 00:33:31.770 Lance Knaub: In less time basically right so it's everything we want, I mean just think about a simple experiment, if you pull you know one on night or how low your performance becomes the next day.

00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:32.670 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right.

00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:38.880 Lance Knaub: You know i'm reading Matthew walker's book neuroscientist you know and he's got plenty of tedx talks, if you prefer, video.

00:33:39.900 --> 00:33:44.100 Lance Knaub: Data on sleep is amazing is Joe rogan interview is really out of this world.

00:33:44.430 --> 00:33:45.510 Lance Knaub: So you know.

00:33:45.540 --> 00:33:47.640 Lance Knaub: Even in you know one nights.

00:33:48.120 --> 00:33:52.590 Lance Knaub: You can really decrease your function right and entrepreneurs have to be firing on all cylinders.

00:33:52.950 --> 00:34:01.500 Lance Knaub: there's no room to you know take yourself down from a you know, a Lamborghini to you know, an old you know car so you've.

00:34:01.530 --> 00:34:11.100 Lance Knaub: got to you know really be done well, so yeah, so I think you can actually have both and sleep, you know connecting back to what we're talking about earlier does seem to be.

00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:28.140 Lance Knaub: there's a pattern that that sleep tends to be one of the earliest things that that entrepreneurs tend to give up it's just you know, rather than developing our self or our business skills it's easy just to you know shave into that sleep time for whatever reason, you know so.

00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.400 Lance Knaub: You know that's just like a an easy hit or end.

00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:33.540 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah I mean.

00:34:33.630 --> 00:34:35.760 Lance Knaub: You know, as far as resources go.

00:34:36.540 --> 00:34:48.540 Lance Knaub: You know many of the audience of for the non healthcare people, you may not have heard of Andrew Superman Superman lab he's a neurobiologist at Stanford and he's really putting out some incredible material.

00:34:48.870 --> 00:34:59.640 Lance Knaub: He he synthesizes the the literature does a lit review and then goes, you know, on to do a podcast and really puts it all together that's you know, partly what sparked this episode.

00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:10.380 Lance Knaub: Really, some of his research on play he has an etiquette episode dedicated to play, and we can you know we'll get into the nitty gritty details now and then even David Sinclair who's a Harvard geneticists to.

00:35:11.220 --> 00:35:17.670 Lance Knaub: Just did a series of podcasts on lifespan and, yes, so much good takeaways from some of this work.

00:35:18.090 --> 00:35:19.650 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know, you know.

00:35:20.070 --> 00:35:27.000 Lance Knaub: To everyone on the opportunity side the silver lining 80% plus some of the newest days are showing more than 90%.

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.510 Lance Knaub: of our quality of life and our longevity actually related to.

00:35:30.510 --> 00:35:32.130 Lance Knaub: Lifestyle it's totally.

00:35:32.160 --> 00:35:33.540 Lance Knaub: 100% in our control.

00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:35.460 Lance Knaub: We cannot blame our parents, we.

00:35:35.460 --> 00:35:39.750 Lance Knaub: cannot blame our DNA or genetics very how we take care of ourselves.

00:35:40.200 --> 00:35:42.120 Lance Knaub: So that's pretty damn exciting.

00:35:43.740 --> 00:35:50.520 Lance Knaub: yeah you know, David Sinclair his research, the number one thing to move the Needle, on your lifespan.

00:35:50.850 --> 00:36:02.700 Lance Knaub: Now that's where he's focused is adding is actually eating less often right and that's the simple way to you know you know gets into like intermittent fasting and a lot of you know, being keto adapted and a lot of.

00:36:03.270 --> 00:36:04.050 Lance Knaub: Things that.

00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.180 Lance Knaub: You know, we could get into as much as you want.

00:36:07.830 --> 00:36:08.160 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And then.

00:36:08.220 --> 00:36:09.810 Lance Knaub: On the play part with.

00:36:09.870 --> 00:36:12.540 Lance Knaub: Your doctor you berman's you know literature review.

00:36:14.100 --> 00:36:21.540 Lance Knaub: He is a neurobiologist to Stanford and I also fell in love with some of the data on humor right there's a umer cliff.

00:36:22.230 --> 00:36:37.260 Lance Knaub: 23 like when we're kids we laugh and play and then, when we were 23 it goes down after like college we get our first job it goes off a cliff literally by having fun and laughing you know we change the chemicals in our brains and you can change somebody.

00:36:37.260 --> 00:36:42.180 Lance Knaub: else they're they're feel good chemicals and they're going to like you more white running do business with you more.

00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:45.990 Lance Knaub: make them laugh, and the same thing with play.

00:36:46.590 --> 00:36:51.150 Lance Knaub: yeah actually endogenous opiates that are released in our brain.

00:36:51.450 --> 00:36:54.090 Lance Knaub: So rather than the exogenous the dangerous opiates.

00:36:54.120 --> 00:36:58.260 Lance Knaub: From play in the research is very clear with that there's there's.

00:36:58.590 --> 00:36:59.940 Lance Knaub: Good neuroscience and data.

00:37:00.930 --> 00:37:08.490 Eric Sarver, Esq.: wow yeah appreciate that Lindsay right i'm glad you showed up those because you know one thing I found is that, like people often.

00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:16.770 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Many people, not all people can be often skeptical about and tribesmen that's kind of scary to them or kind of unfamiliar or it goes against the grain of what they've been told.

00:37:17.190 --> 00:37:23.790 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So often, having some kind of resources, you know research background and data data to back things up, it can be really helpful.

00:37:24.090 --> 00:37:34.470 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I found out meditation I find this happened a lot over the years, you know if you mentioned meditation when I TMC transit of the meditation to someone in a corporate setting in 1990 they say.

00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:42.150 Eric Sarver, Esq.: No hocus pocus stuff there have you know the yogi's and the guru is an author for we're a business folks but.

00:37:42.600 --> 00:37:52.890 Eric Sarver, Esq.: With time and starting to use more New York Times articles and studies about meditation increasing productivity and and and you know and health and focus and I feel like it's like.

00:37:53.280 --> 00:38:01.530 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Those science studies and I made it Okay, for many people to maybe abandoned old misguided beliefs, I had about meditation being something that's.

00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:10.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know reserved for a Buddhist monk on a mountaintop and say I can do this, too, so when you talk about Dr Andrew huberman, you know as podcasters studies on play.

00:38:10.560 --> 00:38:22.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Or you know we start research from Sinclair you mentioned about like the benefits of sleep and rest i'm really helpful, I think, for audience I hope my hope is that people will say hey you know what.

00:38:22.650 --> 00:38:31.800 Eric Sarver, Esq.: This is not just you know the you know kind of musings of Eric sovereign Dr lance now, this is actually not that we don't have good musical genius, mind you, too, sharp minds, but.

00:38:32.970 --> 00:38:36.810 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think it's just really important glad you mentioned, you know that you know.

00:38:38.100 --> 00:38:39.210 Lance Knaub: Sorry interrupt the resource.

00:38:39.210 --> 00:38:39.420 know.

00:38:40.950 --> 00:38:42.630 Lance Knaub: You know you more seriously by.

00:38:42.780 --> 00:38:45.150 Lance Knaub: Jennifer acres and Naomi back Jonas.

00:38:45.570 --> 00:38:57.060 Lance Knaub: And their professors they teach in Stanford Business School so it's there's real data behind it, and the best business minds in the world, now we're introducing humor and play into their curriculums.

00:38:57.810 --> 00:39:14.700 Eric Sarver, Esq.: No it's kind of funny mention that because he actually has been mentioned this to you about divisions that when they are the same humor when you mentioned that think my thought was no humor and I think you said it in shown to add, so the lifespan I think Mel brooks call Ryan.

00:39:15.900 --> 00:39:17.850 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Senior when I think Carl Reiner.

00:39:19.230 --> 00:39:32.130 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Norman Lear that he white you know all these you know, a classic iconic you know comedians and writers and active people in the company field, you know living till you know Betty white try 100 I think normally years and it's mid to late 90s.

00:39:33.420 --> 00:39:47.700 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So, makes me wonder they spend their lives, I think, doing what they enjoy a lot of you know humor in comedy in there, and maybe you know the what we're seeing and what we're reading and studying is there's something to it right, you were being a part of play.

00:39:48.060 --> 00:39:54.150 Lance Knaub: Totally and you know it connects to what I think you asked me about earlier like How do people do this, I think.

00:39:54.600 --> 00:39:57.180 Lance Knaub: You have to do what you love.

00:39:57.450 --> 00:39:58.920 Lance Knaub: Right, whether it be for exercise.

00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:14.100 Lance Knaub: And play right, you know you can go out and and run triathlons if you hate that right go right if you love basketball play basketball, and you know you really have to, and it connects to this mind map, or what I call success schedule right.

00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.170 Lance Knaub: really getting some time for yourself.

00:40:16.530 --> 00:40:20.910 Lance Knaub: and probably mixed in, there is some time to really you know white space.

00:40:20.940 --> 00:40:29.130 Lance Knaub: You know there's somebody that I work with and mentor under thaddeus Gallo, who continuously talks about you know getting some more white space in your life and.

00:40:29.610 --> 00:40:45.900 Lance Knaub: Probably getting out in nature, is probably is is definitely been shown to have you know scientific backgrounds and certainly obviously people, you know very on how much they resonate with nature, but it definitely has some strong data behind it, as well, and really powerful for me personally.

00:40:47.160 --> 00:40:56.760 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah yeah I think you know nature for sure I think one of those things where you know we kind of connect with something bigger than us, and just the change in scenery and get new perspective.

00:40:57.390 --> 00:41:02.700 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And it's interesting how these things we're talking about tonight, not only can they help you, with your health and well being but.

00:41:03.060 --> 00:41:09.090 Eric Sarver, Esq.: In turn, help can they get up you help your business become more successful you know more productive more focus.

00:41:09.510 --> 00:41:18.570 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think that you know what we're talking about tonight for businesses, the idea of play to win is sort of winning the long term, you know, in that you might want you want your business your company your.

00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:23.490 Eric Sarver, Esq.: startup your firm your practice Whatever the case may be, to be around and you want to be around to enjoy it.

00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:29.520 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Not just you know at the two year mark of the five year milestone or after getting you know the investor seed money.

00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:41.250 Eric Sarver, Esq.: For me, oh you're getting 100 clients, you want to be there, God willing, you know the fifth 10th you know 20 340th year or maybe you retired 20 years, who knows, but you want to be there it's the long run.

00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:47.430 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think what i'm also noticing, too, is that, like we talked about scheduling into our day or a week.

00:41:48.120 --> 00:41:54.960 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And it kind of makes me reflect on my own kind of evolving and changing views towards work and play and where it fits into life, you know.

00:41:55.530 --> 00:41:58.440 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I think it's like if you can relate or not, but when I was younger and.

00:41:58.980 --> 00:42:09.390 Eric Sarver, Esq.: The idea was sort of this like maybe flawed, for me, maybe there's perhaps like well attention, but maybe flawed approach of you know, work hard play hard means your work, work, work until you're dead bones and exhausted.

00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:23.220 Eric Sarver, Esq.: When you kind of just crashed with your weekend and test you kind of play play play really hard and you kind of just you know you leave for vacation than a three day weekend, you know, for that, and then you can just you know crazy and I kind of learned over the years that you know.

00:42:24.690 --> 00:42:29.970 Eric Sarver, Esq.: That doesn't really work for me, I need you kind of just scheduling some leisure some downtime.

00:42:30.420 --> 00:42:36.540 Eric Sarver, Esq.: during the week and can't be kind of a thing, where you know from Friday night to Sunday night i'm completely you know.

00:42:36.930 --> 00:42:45.150 Eric Sarver, Esq.: decompressing and just working like crazy without fun from Monday through Friday night or you can put in your own schedules there, I mean if you work a five or six days a week, but.

00:42:46.230 --> 00:42:52.380 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So wondering what your thoughts are about this i'm thinking about now, as I get towards a vacation and you want to make sure when I get back.

00:42:53.250 --> 00:43:01.680 Eric Sarver, Esq.: He continued to schedule and you know those occasional long lunches or half day of my wife, because i'm the kitchen and all that stuff and then you go.

00:43:02.370 --> 00:43:12.690 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know I get back i'm going to change things up and then you know, a month later you're easy to think of things in any work, what do you think about that scheduling like on a day to day basis not you know.

00:43:13.170 --> 00:43:17.490 Lance Knaub: agree 1,000% and you and I talked about this, you know there's an eight figure.

00:43:17.520 --> 00:43:18.840 Lance Knaub: executive that i'm supporting a.

00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:27.900 Lance Knaub: CEO and you know, one of the first meetings we had they said lance and I carry my gym bag around all week but I don't I never get to use it.

00:43:28.380 --> 00:43:31.770 Lance Knaub: I only get to exercise on the weekends, and that was their biggest.

00:43:31.890 --> 00:43:38.880 Lance Knaub: You know challenge right that we were trying to figure out and again creating the framework of the success schedule and just trying to.

00:43:39.570 --> 00:43:47.430 Lance Knaub: You know, have some accountability and support and guidance and get more efficient right, and this is somebody who's passionate about exercise exercise has been a major part of their life.

00:43:47.910 --> 00:43:49.020 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah but.

00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:58.050 Lance Knaub: You know, and this was obviously the company is doing well and and you know thriving but you know, without their leader staying healthy it's not sustainable.

00:43:58.620 --> 00:44:04.320 Eric Sarver, Esq.: huh yeah so true I think it's important for employers know that also that you know employers to offer.

00:44:04.740 --> 00:44:12.330 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know play to play wellness programs to their workers anything and they can model for you know could have good health and they can also be mindful of.

00:44:12.810 --> 00:44:20.580 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know these sort of boundaries around technology and working remotely from a legal perspective as an attorney time and hey you want to buy the overtime laws if you have any.

00:44:21.060 --> 00:44:28.620 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Non exempt to you know employee is supposedly paid overtime for time in half and you're emailing them at eight o'clock at night to answer responses.

00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:41.970 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And they're working 50 hours and 40 but also just think of their health and well being so, I think there are a lot of points that but I do hear about you know how you schedule that in with that executive interesting how how important that is to do.

00:44:42.420 --> 00:44:45.030 Lance Knaub: One tactic to add to what you just said, I.

00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:57.750 Lance Knaub: think that yeah good leaders can be you know personally i've shared my success schedule with my team, so they knew when I flipped the switch and vice versa.

00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:13.770 Lance Knaub: So, at whatever time that was you know 5678 whatever it was for which person and which time in their life right, and you have to customize it for all these variables, but at that point, we would try to be more respectful and even use a simple tool, just like.

00:45:14.010 --> 00:45:15.330 Lance Knaub: schedule sand instead of.

00:45:15.330 --> 00:45:23.670 Lance Knaub: Sending that email at nine o'clock because some people are unfortunately going to check right and not everyone's disciplined enough just to not check and so you know, the next time they're quote working.

00:45:24.060 --> 00:45:38.130 Lance Knaub: So I just send for the next morning so because, again, the average you know employees doesn't necessarily know whether to act when their their supervisor, you know or the CEO or owner send them something at you know eight 910 o'clock at night.

00:45:38.550 --> 00:45:51.390 Lance Knaub: Right we're supposed to act on that so so schedule sand can really just be a small immediate step, you can take towards really helping your team stay low stress right and leading by example.

00:45:52.470 --> 00:45:56.580 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I agree with that wholeheartedly interested in employment laws are neat right I think it's a great idea.

00:45:56.910 --> 00:46:04.950 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Then they're responding on their arrows arrows are supposed to work and also just from a plant, do you mentioned about you know not burning your email, and frankly.

00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:13.860 Eric Sarver, Esq.: not bringing something, because then, if the employee respond to 10 o'clock and you're not disciplined enough not to check then checking for bedtime and so.

00:46:14.970 --> 00:46:25.590 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I know a lot of people struggle with that a checking your email before bed I don't do I lose weight in the morning I figured whatever's their inbox you know, but every time a name will be there in the morning and.

00:46:25.770 --> 00:46:35.700 Eric Sarver, Esq.: It was good news in the morning, something challenging I can do the fresh mind I go to bed when learning about situation makes I think that's you know.

00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:54.510 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Why don't you have to commercial break if you leave when we come back, I want to give you time to talk about how you, you know working people, someone about tools, you know consulting so i'll just correct the commercial break stick around and talk to him, I see i'm your host today.

00:46:55.560 --> 00:46:58.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Our guest tonight and we'll be right back.

00:47:01.020 --> 00:47:01.440 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Join us.

00:48:58.620 --> 00:49:04.020 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to class today i'm very somber i've been playing a lot of business logic.

00:49:05.130 --> 00:49:07.050 Eric Sarver, Esq.: here tonight with my guest Dr lance.

00:49:08.490 --> 00:49:14.850 Eric Sarver, Esq.: founder of breakthrough in physical therapy and fitness and also founder denied or something and.

00:49:15.270 --> 00:49:25.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: they're talking about this idea of play to win that are productivity tuition planning sharing host of tips information and resources to think about this topic, and so I will.

00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:34.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: turn the floor over to you let's talk about it tonight that something in terms of what you are what you do, for your clients businesses and.

00:49:35.940 --> 00:49:39.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: That includes track bring in play, recreation, to the picture, but you know what you guys do.

00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:44.700 Lance Knaub: yeah so I guess, the first thing that I wanted to share is just to.

00:49:45.630 --> 00:49:55.380 Lance Knaub: Let everyone know my story and why i'm so passionate about you know paying it forward and helping other leaders and entrepreneurs to stay healthy mentally physically.

00:49:55.740 --> 00:50:05.610 Lance Knaub: spiritually and have healthy businesses that have double digit profitability after paying themselves so in 2011 when we just had our third child and we had.

00:50:06.090 --> 00:50:19.950 Lance Knaub: Three offices about 30 employees, I was abusing my body not sleeping enough not exercising enough not eating well and just generally you know not taking care of myself and.

00:50:20.790 --> 00:50:35.310 Lance Knaub: My body had it reached its limit and it revolted and my digestive system stopped working it shut down my GI system, so I couldn't eat I couldn't take any nutrients and I had to run to the bathroom even when I did try and.

00:50:35.820 --> 00:50:40.230 Lance Knaub: You really can't treat patient as a physical therapist and you certainly can't lead a team.

00:50:41.610 --> 00:50:57.990 Lance Knaub: You know, so you know if you ever took your body for granted right when your your gut your gut health isn't working you know it's it's not going to work, so I was fortunately it was temporary I had an endoscopy and you know saw some you know doctors.

00:50:58.350 --> 00:51:04.560 Lance Knaub: But I just to start taking better care of myself right, it was a little for shut down like you know, and I argue are feeling great this week and you had to.

00:51:05.100 --> 00:51:11.790 Lance Knaub: You know you had to do some self you know preservation self care, and you know, fortunately you're back in action so.

00:51:12.510 --> 00:51:16.950 Lance Knaub: Similar to me, so you know I realized, I continue to develop myself personally.

00:51:17.640 --> 00:51:25.500 Lance Knaub: And you know that's really step one and the 4% breakthrough my book process, I tried to put all my harder and lessons into this process, so I believe.

00:51:26.040 --> 00:51:34.860 Lance Knaub: personal development is so important and then sort of the fifth chapter within that first section is this success schedule I call it this time that we've been talking about.

00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:41.490 Lance Knaub: Tonight, which, if anyone reaches out to me i'll be happy to share the template that I use for people that I serve.

00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:47.220 Lance Knaub: And really creates a nice framework and boundary and you know just like little things I put my.

00:51:47.610 --> 00:51:57.510 Lance Knaub: You know time with family is yellow and you know, maybe the work on the business as green versus in the business, you know as a technician like Michael gerber language are probably familiar with from the E myth.

00:51:59.220 --> 00:52:06.660 Lance Knaub: So, then, the second section would be the business fundamentals right I to continue to develop my my business skills and business basics and.

00:52:07.140 --> 00:52:15.870 Lance Knaub: You know, put position descriptions and or boards and processes and systems, and you know marketing business plans all those fundamentals into the business.

00:52:16.260 --> 00:52:33.840 Lance Knaub: And then, lastly, I had to really we've you know all this actionable health and lifestyle information which we talked about lifestyle is the majority of our our health and our lifespan and quality of life is due to what's you know 1,000% in our control so that's you know something I.

00:52:35.010 --> 00:52:40.680 Lance Knaub: love to help entrepreneurs with with this process and i've got a companion book that has sort of the steps in it.

00:52:41.070 --> 00:52:52.950 Lance Knaub: And even the, it also has the assessment, I like people to actually take a baseline assessment see where they are with some of these things, and then they can measure their progress, so I don't know how much time we have I know.

00:52:52.980 --> 00:52:54.450 Eric Sarver, Esq.: we're getting close but.

00:52:55.020 --> 00:53:04.950 Lance Knaub: You know, so the book and the assessment will be great places to start and even the specific success schedule people could reach out to me at my denali consulting.

00:53:05.310 --> 00:53:22.380 Lance Knaub: Dr lance lab at the knowledge consulting team calm and I will share with you and I send it to you today so i'd love to see you take a cut out at Eric because, to make sure your you've got your priorities, and you know carved out for you so Those are a few quick things off top my head.

00:53:22.980 --> 00:53:23.460 yeah.

00:53:24.720 --> 00:53:27.720 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think it's a good idea I should take take a step because, as you mentioned sure.

00:53:29.580 --> 00:53:30.600 Lance Knaub: I put you on the spot here in.

00:53:30.600 --> 00:53:31.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: front yeah.

00:53:33.810 --> 00:53:45.720 Eric Sarver, Esq.: circle back and and you know, maybe a future Charlotte so here's what I did you know think absolutely and then just you know we have a few minutes, but still, it can you um for those listening to my not see can you spell they're.

00:53:46.890 --> 00:53:47.880 Eric Sarver, Esq.: saying, and I know.

00:53:48.870 --> 00:54:08.490 Lance Knaub: For sure so holly like the mountain de na Li Dr lance la and see knob K and au B, as in boy at denali consulting team calm with guide me now and the website for anyone who wants to check anything out.

00:54:08.520 --> 00:54:10.830 Lance Knaub: Is the consulting team COM.

00:54:11.610 --> 00:54:19.500 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah yeah you know great something you know I appreciate you sharing your story with us to then kind of background story yeah because we all have some way.

00:54:19.860 --> 00:54:28.470 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And kind of just going to have a stomach virus, as I mentioned some improvements son had it Friday through Sunday, I had suddenly through last night, this morning.

00:54:29.640 --> 00:54:37.830 Eric Sarver, Esq.: it's it can be hard and to take that much to the audience I just think you know send the email setting out of the office to the phone setting for that and.

00:54:38.490 --> 00:54:46.470 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Everyone said Oh, you have a three day weekend lounging around was would have been fine, but I said no, no such luck, but I think that self care, I think, is so important because.

00:54:46.830 --> 00:54:55.020 Eric Sarver, Esq.: If our bodies, the phallus, as you said, your body was trying to do what's meaningful this right, I mean you know when you can't run a firm or startup.

00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:04.710 Eric Sarver, Esq.: From the hospital or God forbid from words so i'm really glad that you are, that that was a did you turn things around with your fitness and pay it forward help others.

00:55:05.130 --> 00:55:15.420 Lance Knaub: And you said it just right right, what is the meaning of all this to me that's really like like breaking away from all the noise all the chaos and this is not easy for entrepreneurs right.

00:55:15.750 --> 00:55:19.260 Lance Knaub: From the last time we talked i'm really passionate about people, you know.

00:55:19.290 --> 00:55:31.200 Lance Knaub: Especially entrepreneurs and leaders taking time to do some of the strategic work from the planning right, just like we talked about you know, to have your your week laid out for you, what a perfect you know which should look like in a perfect world, so.

00:55:31.830 --> 00:55:44.850 Lance Knaub: You know, I think that that's very important just breaking away from all those things to step one figure out, you know what I call your you know personal mission you've heard that before, but your cause your reason your why and cross check with your priorities.

00:55:45.390 --> 00:55:45.930 hmm.

00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.350 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah you know that's a great stuff and people tonight I think it's a great guy just you know our.

00:55:52.800 --> 00:56:03.840 Eric Sarver, Esq.: discussion in our elaborating on this play to win this idea better and productivity, the recreation and play and and work life balance, and you know I think self care name is the overarching umbrella.

00:56:04.410 --> 00:56:09.060 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And that you had you know self care in terms of sleep and nutrition and self care in terms of.

00:56:10.230 --> 00:56:18.330 Eric Sarver, Esq.: play fun, is it nature, for example, exercising on me, so you know it's really been on the show tonight.

00:56:19.710 --> 00:56:28.890 Eric Sarver, Esq.: That I encourage people to take a stab at these things a little bit at a time, you have to bite off once you can start out with a 15 minute walk or a 10 minute.

00:56:29.550 --> 00:56:31.050 Eric Sarver, Esq.: break right.

00:56:32.040 --> 00:56:37.140 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So I want to thank you so much for being on the show tonight I mention that we're watching and listening to employment law today.

00:56:37.590 --> 00:56:46.530 Eric Sarver, Esq.: If you liked what you heard that join us every Tuesday at 5pm right here on talk real nyc and tune in next word justin trying to McElroy his amazing show.

00:56:47.430 --> 00:56:57.150 Eric Sarver, Esq.: lots of good shows on the network, you can tune in You can check out the website trump nyc once again want to thank you, Dr lance now and have a wonderful evening always great speaking with the lads.

00:56:57.810 --> 00:56:59.040 Lance Knaub: shoshana my pleasure.

00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:00.930 Eric Sarver, Esq.: All right, thank you.

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