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Facebook Live Video from 2022/02/15 - Collective Consciousness And The Great Resignation

 
Facebook Live Video from 2022/02/15 - Collective Consciousness And The Great Resignation

 

2022/02/15 - Collective Consciousness And The Great Resignation

[NEW EPISODE] Collective Consciousness And The Great Resignation

(1) Our audience will gain a better understanding of what is happening with The Great Resignation; (2) Our listeners will gain keen insights on how to approach their workers who may be leaving in large numbers; (3) our audience can gain insight into how their actions as employers may be contributing to, or countering, The Great Resignation.

The Great Resignation can seem like a baffling phenomenon to many experts. The causes for the mass exodus from jobs are being studied and opined upon from a DEI perspective, a mental health awareness, and from economists' point of view. But how does conscious awareness play into this equation? What are the points of collective consciousness, of awareness, and the spiritual principles that have contributed to The Great Resignation?

Join me on Tuesday evening, with my special guest, Sam Liebowitz, a/k/a "The Conscious Consultant," Executive Producer at TalkRadio.NYC, and host of The Conscious Consultant Hour, for an engaging discussion of how we can all benefit by viewing The Great Resignation through a spiritual lens of consciousness. 

Website:- https://theconsciousconsultant.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/consciousconsultant/

NYC Talk Radio Show: https://www.talkradio.nyc/shows/the-conscious-consultant-hour



Tune in for this informative conversation at
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Show Notes

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Transcript

00:00:45.780 --> 00:00:53.040 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Good evening, welcome to employment law today i'm your host Eric solver i'm an employment law and business law attorney.

00:00:53.370 --> 00:01:03.930 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I host this weekly live talk radio show, and this video broadcast every Tuesday night from 5pm to 6pm Eastern standard time right here on talk radio nyc.

00:01:04.230 --> 00:01:12.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Where I have guests who discuss some of the most novel interesting and engaging issues faced by employers, employees and business owners today.

00:01:13.290 --> 00:01:19.110 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And these issues, often include the topics around employee relations trends in the hiring market.

00:01:19.860 --> 00:01:24.540 Eric Sarver, Esq.: and many other aspects of what companies are facing during these challenging times.

00:01:25.080 --> 00:01:39.090 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And, in the spirit of having guests on the show i'd like to spend a warm welcome to my guest tonight is actually coming back for an encore comes on the show sometime last year, Sam leibowitz the conscious consultant Sam welcome to the show.

00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:49.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Thank you so much Eric, thank you for having me on the show good to know that, after my first appearance I wasn't banned from employment law today permanently.

00:01:50.310 --> 00:01:59.520 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Now you're only band for three months, not kidding me like that yeah pleasure to have you and have you back exactly or other deed yeah for sure.

00:02:00.600 --> 00:02:05.610 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So i'm going to read a little bit about our topic and then i'll introduce a little more formally to our audience tonight.

00:02:06.060 --> 00:02:15.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Our topic folks if you're out there listening this evening is the collective consciousness and the great resignation, something that I think we've all been hearing a lot about.

00:02:15.570 --> 00:02:24.900 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And Sam and I were talking about this, you know, the fact that the great resignation, it can really seem like a backlink phenomenon too many experts and business owners that matter.

00:02:25.350 --> 00:02:31.680 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right, the causes for the next mass exodus from jobs are being studied and upon upon from a dni perspective.

00:02:32.610 --> 00:02:38.010 Eric Sarver, Esq.: From a mental health awareness perspective, as I discussed two weeks ago with frank Harrison and frank about health.

00:02:38.640 --> 00:02:44.250 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And from an economist point of view, but how does conscious awareness plant this equation.

00:02:44.670 --> 00:02:52.800 Eric Sarver, Esq.: What are the points of collective consciousness of awareness and even I say the spiritual principles that have contributed to the great resignation.

00:02:53.250 --> 00:03:01.140 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And that's what we're getting at tonight when Sam leibowitz aka the conscious consultant who's also the executive producer at talk radio nyc.

00:03:01.470 --> 00:03:11.250 Eric Sarver, Esq.: and host of the Thursday show the conscious consultant our I will join me for an engaging discussion of how we can all benefit by looking at this great resignation.

00:03:11.700 --> 00:03:17.010 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Through a spiritual lens of consciousness, we will discuss how employers can cultivate.

00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:29.910 Eric Sarver, Esq.: an attitude of resiliency perseverance and gratitude, which may inspire their employees in the workplace and along those lines, now, if I can just give you all some more background about Sam and again i'm really glad to have you on the show this evening, Sam.

00:03:31.020 --> 00:03:32.820 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Let me just read your intro, if I may.

00:03:33.900 --> 00:03:42.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Our guest tonight is Emily what's, as I mentioned, known as a conscious of assaulted Sam is a mentor he's also a coach speaker a healer.

00:03:43.200 --> 00:03:54.030 Eric Sarver, Esq.: A serial entrepreneur and he's the author of the number one best selling book everyday awakening Sam has been in business, since 1983 and his own several successful businesses.

00:03:54.720 --> 00:04:04.440 Eric Sarver, Esq.: His current ventures include the conscious consultant a coaching and mentoring service which promotes sensible ethical, moral and conscious ways to build.

00:04:04.920 --> 00:04:13.050 Eric Sarver, Esq.: careers and businesses, and of course talking about 200 broadcasting or talk radio nyc this station is Internet radio station.

00:04:13.530 --> 00:04:22.830 Eric Sarver, Esq.: which reaches over 120 countries and 300,000 listeners worldwide and Sam further runs a double diamond wellness a healing Center in the heart of Manhattan.

00:04:23.520 --> 00:04:29.730 Eric Sarver, Esq.: In these various roles Sam is inspiring hundreds of people to live a life is happier healthier and more fulfilled.

00:04:30.180 --> 00:04:47.970 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Sam has lectured in several venues in New York City, including being a featured speaker at Ted talks upper West side in 2016 and Sam and let's say it was great to hear your perspective on things like your you know your awareness your insights so looking forward to our discussion tonight.

00:04:48.570 --> 00:05:00.210 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: me to Eric me too I always love to be able to offer some me unexpected insider different perspective, I think that most people tend to hear from other places.

00:05:01.110 --> 00:05:09.450 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah absolutely and you know what I think that people unique insights and perspectives often very much tied into their background, you know their their path or past.

00:05:09.780 --> 00:05:24.030 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And that leads me to my first question tonight few sandwiches if you could just tell us a bit more about your professional path prior to becoming the conscious consultant and prior to running talk to nyc sort of a how'd you get here type of me.

00:05:24.270 --> 00:05:34.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So when I started working I was still in college, I worked at a bank as a Teller and I was a going to get my degree in computer science.

00:05:35.010 --> 00:05:54.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And when I graduated I sort of internally transferred in the bank to their cash management department and then I started doing technical trainings I ran a small team and the customer service department in the cash management area and then eventually I left went to another bank.

00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:10.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Was there for a short time and then went to another software company that was owned by a bank so again being in New York, a lot of financial services and then my last job my last full time job was systems manager of.

00:06:11.280 --> 00:06:18.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: nonprofit trade association for insurance buyers of all things it's called risk insurance management society.

00:06:19.980 --> 00:06:35.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then from there, I kind of got the bug I really I kind of got that urge of like seeing how I come in a little bit earlier than people next to me and I leave later at work harder in the day, but my paycheck didn't necessarily reflect that.

00:06:35.610 --> 00:06:36.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: That if somebody had been.

00:06:36.990 --> 00:06:46.140 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: In the company, you know just two years longer than me they still were always making more money than me, even if they weren't working as hard as I was so I kind of felt like.

00:06:46.530 --> 00:06:55.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: You know I think I would rather see more the fruits of my own Labor rather than you know someone else deciding how much I make.

00:06:56.700 --> 00:07:13.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And so I didn't jump right away, but I did become a computer consultant, I worked with a friend of mine who I knew who was a consultant for almost a year part time and working full time until the big enough project came along, and then I jumped ship.

00:07:14.640 --> 00:07:19.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then, was a computer consultant for a couple of years, then my friend and I we started a.

00:07:21.870 --> 00:07:33.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Video company sort of a distributor for Japanese animation here in the US got bought by a larger company started another company left that.

00:07:34.770 --> 00:07:52.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: decided to pursue a passion of mine, which is space aerospace so we started in the early web one point O days and online database of space qualified hardware, software services, and then the shuttle Columbia blew up.

00:07:52.830 --> 00:08:03.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And as like this that the industry is going to be in the toilet for at least a couple of years and I had been doing Okay, but I haven't been doing great so you know, I was kind of struggling a little bit with that business so.

00:08:04.140 --> 00:08:08.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I had been married I just got married at that point, I decided to shut it down.

00:08:09.540 --> 00:08:12.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then got into real estate and.

00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:22.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: actually got did a little bit of commercial leasing got involved in a small development project in Queens at just the wrong time.

00:08:23.730 --> 00:08:25.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: and got out at just the wrong time.

00:08:26.130 --> 00:08:28.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And and and that was a very, very.

00:08:28.950 --> 00:08:36.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: expensive lesson in real estate development in New York City and I learned a very valuable lesson.

00:08:36.660 --> 00:08:37.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Which is I am.

00:08:37.560 --> 00:08:40.650 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Totally not built for real estate in New York City.

00:08:41.370 --> 00:08:41.910 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Okay yeah.

00:08:43.050 --> 00:08:51.060 Eric Sarver, Esq.: wow yeah that's a quick The background is here i'm you know very I hear a lot of diversity, there you know here interesting thread sort of have.

00:08:51.600 --> 00:09:07.140 Eric Sarver, Esq.: That desire to sort of shape your own destiny, more and have more I guess autonomy and perhaps say into hey you know I want to pre be able to get paid based on how hard I work and maybe bring in more and bring unless like but I guess is also risk of that and I heard you.

00:09:07.770 --> 00:09:08.340 Eric Sarver, Esq.: don't like.

00:09:08.370 --> 00:09:18.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Did you know you really can't say that you didn't try various things there and i'm sure, with different views access it so interesting to see how that think what you need to where you are today.

00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:23.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I mean, I would say, like all my endeavors have been pretty successful, except for the real estate.

00:09:23.970 --> 00:09:25.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right, the only problem is like.

00:09:25.710 --> 00:09:27.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: That one really wiped out all those.

00:09:27.900 --> 00:09:30.180 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Successes oh yeah but.

00:09:30.210 --> 00:09:31.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: It was during that time that then.

00:09:33.090 --> 00:09:50.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I met Giorgio, who is the founder of the network and who was an acupuncturist and my wife and I, we took it over and started a wellness Center and I took over the radio station, and that was 11 and a half years ago, and I have to say, this is the longest i've spent doing anyone business.

00:09:50.280 --> 00:09:50.550 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah.

00:09:50.580 --> 00:09:59.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Well, actually it's two businesses but it's the longest i've spent doing anything so I guess, this is kind of caught my captured my attention for a while.

00:10:00.060 --> 00:10:08.940 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah that's great to hear you know hear that and yeah I think you know a lot of my guests, they can talk about their you know varying backgrounds and often it's.

00:10:09.270 --> 00:10:15.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Interesting not everyone has the one job and then goes right off to their next endeavor self employed so.

00:10:16.050 --> 00:10:23.070 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I guess that kind of brings a lot of awareness and a lot of you know, value and looking at consciousness and it kind of brings me to my next question.

00:10:23.370 --> 00:10:32.760 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I think my last question I want to preface this statement for those listening tonight, I think a lot of us have heard about the great resignation and depending upon perhaps what news.

00:10:33.570 --> 00:10:40.860 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Feed you have what articles you read or watch TV stations you watch, you might call it the great resignation, to be re evaluation.

00:10:41.670 --> 00:10:52.260 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But the fact remains that record 4.4 million people, many may know quick left their job and December 2021 and even almost the same number in August, the month prior.

00:10:53.100 --> 00:11:01.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: it's been one of the law of large numbers of resignations typically at a time when jobs are not decreasing so it's been definitely a resignation.

00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:14.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And you know wanting to ask him, like you know you have the contract insulted you've got the video we're getting book, what is your perspectives him on what is great resignation is about and what do you think some of the causes are fairly new phenomenon.

00:11:15.390 --> 00:11:22.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Well, I kind of I see things in a in a bit broader perspective, I think, then, some people do.

00:11:22.830 --> 00:11:28.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Also, I kind of feel like I was ahead of the curve I resigned from my last job in 1993 so.

00:11:29.820 --> 00:11:31.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: A little ahead of the curve there but um.

00:11:33.090 --> 00:11:52.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: But I feel like it's a it's a combination of sort of three big trends that all coincided at the same time yeah, and so the first trend is sort of a technology trend of being able to work virtually.

00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And, and I just want to also state that.

00:11:57.510 --> 00:12:02.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I kind of feel that technological development is really.

00:12:04.680 --> 00:12:14.820 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: limited by our consciousness and that when we sort of raise our consciousness raise our awareness, then we make these big technological leaps.

00:12:15.750 --> 00:12:16.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So.

00:12:16.350 --> 00:12:26.940 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: It was, it was a technolog it was a consciousness leap that led to a technology leap that led to zoom getting adapted all over the place.

00:12:27.390 --> 00:12:29.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right so that's the first trend.

00:12:30.540 --> 00:12:45.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then the second trend is the trend that is the increasing popularity of the gig economy yeah of people being able to go out and get gigs and do side hustlers and all kinds of things like that.

00:12:47.010 --> 00:12:57.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And I want to relate that back, maybe a little bit later on to to what you had said in the beginning about you know, are working for a job.

00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:09.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then the third one was something that had had already was on the horizon people had already started moving this direction, but then it's sped up tremendously.

00:13:10.260 --> 00:13:21.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: which was people being able to spend some time with themselves and their families and really being able to sort of take that time that that.

00:13:22.380 --> 00:13:29.850 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: moment that separation to re evaluate things and to really look at their life from a different perspective.

00:13:31.410 --> 00:13:32.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And I feel like.

00:13:32.640 --> 00:13:37.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Those three trends coming together is what brought us the great resignation.

00:13:38.670 --> 00:13:45.750 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Interesting Sam yeah then remote virtual work right, it was a Daddy increasing canada's leading to and the tech.

00:13:46.230 --> 00:13:55.890 Eric Sarver, Esq.: revolution, so to speak, and more technology and perhaps that even feeds the consciousness and, of course, like the gig economy and people haven't had time from the pandemic and otherwise.

00:13:56.520 --> 00:14:09.930 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i'd like to explore these we know more with you, of course, during the show we do need to take our first commercial break as i'm sure you're familiar with that how that goes so i'll just add to our listeners at home tonight you are listening to or watching.

00:14:11.130 --> 00:14:19.920 Eric Sarver, Esq.: employment law today i'm your host erick solver my guest tonight, Sam leibowitz the conscious consultant stick around we'll be right back right here on talk radio and yc.

00:16:34.380 --> 00:16:46.830 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to employment law today i'm your host erick solver here tonight with my guests and liebowitz aka the conscious consultant Sam has a show on this network and his executive producer of the station and we're talking about.

00:16:47.280 --> 00:17:04.830 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Collective consciousness and the great resignation and some of the factors and causes of this phenomenon and Sam before the break you mentioned three trends, you know the whole remote virtual work technology, increasing the gig economy that also and people have more time with themselves.

00:17:05.970 --> 00:17:13.560 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Just thinking about how those three are interrelated like thinking about how, for example, people who have say more time during the pandemic.

00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:20.190 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Maybe they were laid there for a loan from their jobs or maybe they were working from home remotely but fewer hours you're not.

00:17:20.580 --> 00:17:29.550 Eric Sarver, Esq.: commuting taking the train every day they probably had a little more time to reflect, and maybe you know what the specter of you know, mortality people they knew dying from coven and.

00:17:30.120 --> 00:17:36.750 Eric Sarver, Esq.: sort of reliable in their lives, and also, perhaps, maybe some of that that folks to you know hold on they get to.

00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:49.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: ride sharing and other types of gig economy jobs because they wanted to maybe on some level preserve some freedom of movement, so I wonder if you what your thoughts are about some of those like you know.

00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.610 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So, so I want to go back to like a little bit before the pandemic.

00:17:53.940 --> 00:17:54.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah because.

00:17:55.080 --> 00:18:04.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I don't want people to think that, like this just happened out of the blue, it just happened overnight, these are things that actually have been building for a little while.

00:18:05.490 --> 00:18:17.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And, and one of the things I think that people don't realize is that many workers, especially a tech companies for like the last five years.

00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:36.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Before the pandemic i've been asking their employers about remote work remote work people have been talking about it, I mean I remember when they first took over the station, there was a guy Jim blue who used to do a tech show on and he talked back then 11 and a half years ago.

00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:45.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: About remote work Okay, so this is not anything new, but what what but the companies, the big major companies.

00:18:45.540 --> 00:18:58.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: They used as an excuse not to implement it Oh, it would cost too much it would it would take too much infrastructure we don't know how to manage people that way you know they came up with all kinds of excuses, not to do it.

00:18:58.800 --> 00:19:03.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: But what happened when when the pandemic hit in the lockdown happen.

00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:05.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: overnight.

00:19:05.730 --> 00:19:15.030 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Millions of people went from in person to virtual work right so now, the companies can't use that excuse anymore, they can't take it away from people.

00:19:15.210 --> 00:19:18.090 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: hmm so what happened is is that.

00:19:18.150 --> 00:19:25.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: People have been wanting this maybe they were the initial spark and then many other people follow, but people have been wanting that for a while.

00:19:25.590 --> 00:19:35.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah because exactly of what you said, the long commutes the travel time the expense behind it, I mean the the amount of time.

00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:50.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: For people sitting in traffic like driving to work has increased dramatically over the last 1015 years in cities across the United States, I mean in New York God I pity, anyone who drives a car in New York City and.

00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:52.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: i'm like the subways are.

00:19:52.470 --> 00:20:02.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Great they get you there so fast, why would you even think of bringing car yesterday but but in other places like every time I visit city Washington DC San Diego.

00:20:03.090 --> 00:20:08.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: la it's just every year, year after year, I keep hearing how the traffic is.

00:20:08.010 --> 00:20:12.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: getting worse and worse, and even though they tried building new lanes to the highway.

00:20:12.390 --> 00:20:16.920 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Once they come out it's already too late and there's even more traffic than before.

00:20:17.220 --> 00:20:18.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So people have wanted to.

00:20:19.860 --> 00:20:22.200 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: realize that this is such a waste of time.

00:20:23.790 --> 00:20:25.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So that was building for a while.

00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:30.510 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah and then this idea of the gig economy coming about.

00:20:31.980 --> 00:20:40.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: It kind of reminds me of of a talk, I heard seth godin give once, where he was talking about how.

00:20:42.030 --> 00:20:51.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: During our parents generation pretty much worked at one company your entire life retired at 65 you got your gold watch.

00:20:51.510 --> 00:21:13.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah and that was it but in our lifetime, the baby boomers will say probably had somewhere, but at least minimum between three and five jobs potentially in totally different industries right, I mean I think back like even 10 1520 years ago.

00:21:13.620 --> 00:21:14.790 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I remember like.

00:21:14.850 --> 00:21:23.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Visiting my old high school and some of the kids asking about you know i'm not sure what I should major in college and stuff and i'm like you know what.

00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:24.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: don't sweat it because.

00:21:25.080 --> 00:21:32.070 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: The vast majority of people are working in industries that have nothing to do with what they studied in school.

00:21:32.490 --> 00:21:36.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right right so so there was already this kind of shift.

00:21:38.520 --> 00:21:55.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: In people having more different stuff and but then seth godin said in our in our children's generation they won't have three to five to seven jobs they'll have seven different careers simultaneously yeah.

00:21:56.130 --> 00:22:02.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And and that's what's been building, as people have been doing little side hustle here and they're trying to make money this way or that way.

00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:10.020 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And just what's happened is as the with the smartphones and all the phone Apps coming up, it just made.

00:22:10.560 --> 00:22:26.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: The ability to create these kind of gig type jobs, much more accessible to people but let's face it, people have been dog walkers apartment cleaners, I mean you know people have been doing all kinds of things as side jobs for a while.

00:22:26.370 --> 00:22:28.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Sure, and it's not that unusual.

00:22:28.740 --> 00:22:33.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: If you know somebody who doesn't have a full time job they may have two or three part time jobs.

00:22:34.890 --> 00:22:35.280 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah.

00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:38.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So that's been building for a while to.

00:22:39.030 --> 00:22:44.280 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then the third thing about people kind of sitting back and reflecting on things.

00:22:45.780 --> 00:22:52.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Well, to me it was kind of highlighted, but this is also kind of been a trend of this more mindfulness.

00:22:52.860 --> 00:22:57.570 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah is the rise and in the popularity of meditation right.

00:22:57.870 --> 00:23:01.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: transcendental meditation has been around since the 60s.

00:23:01.650 --> 00:23:12.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah and it's only become more popular and then more varieties of different kinds of meditation and and it was really very poignant Lee highlighted to me just last week.

00:23:13.260 --> 00:23:15.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I was in a networking event and.

00:23:15.870 --> 00:23:22.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And before we went down to the breakout rooms, they said Okay, your question of the week is, what do you do to de stress.

00:23:23.310 --> 00:23:29.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And so, then they sent and there's a whole bunch of people in a room and they send you off into the breakout rooms and it was like two or three breakout rooms.

00:23:29.970 --> 00:23:30.360 yeah.

00:23:31.380 --> 00:23:35.640 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And like 80% to 90% of the people said they meditate.

00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:45.300 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: To de stress now, this was not a networking event for new age people, not a networking event for healers was a business networking event.

00:23:45.600 --> 00:23:46.530 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right yeah.

00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:51.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And, to me it like floored me, even though i've been meditating.

00:23:51.540 --> 00:23:54.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: For I don't know how long as long as I can remember.

00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:54.480 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Yet.

00:23:55.320 --> 00:23:58.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: To see the why the acceptance of it.

00:23:59.220 --> 00:24:04.680 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah that really shook me, and I mean you yourself Eric How long have you been meditating.

00:24:05.130 --> 00:24:10.860 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I say about 12 almost 13 years now 2009 I started 19 sound.

00:24:11.190 --> 00:24:13.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And yeah and I remember back why.

00:24:14.130 --> 00:24:16.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I don't know 510 years ago when.

00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:24.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: You know the President of Twitter came out that he's a meditator and then, like all across Silicon Valley you started hearing, like all the.

00:24:24.510 --> 00:24:38.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Heads of some of these big tech companies, they are very spiritual they meditate they take time for themselves and and it wasn't necessarily talked about overly openly but it's kind of people in the new no new like that's what was going on.

00:24:38.280 --> 00:24:41.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So that's been building to, and so, when you.

00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:43.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: take some time.

00:24:44.550 --> 00:24:46.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: To just be with yourself.

00:24:48.600 --> 00:24:48.840 Eric Sarver, Esq.: To.

00:24:49.110 --> 00:25:00.330 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Your you're able to start to really sort of separate from the rat race from the hustle and bustle and the worries of every day you bring yourself to a state of presence.

00:25:03.270 --> 00:25:06.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then you really start to be able to.

00:25:08.490 --> 00:25:11.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: feel like what's really important to us.

00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:12.540 Eric Sarver, Esq.: mm hmm.

00:25:12.900 --> 00:25:14.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: what's really a value.

00:25:14.910 --> 00:25:18.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah and then this pandemic gave people.

00:25:19.320 --> 00:25:21.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: up front and Center like right in your face.

00:25:22.500 --> 00:25:26.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah it's it's connection it's family it's.

00:25:26.490 --> 00:25:32.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Friends, especially so many people early on in the pandemic, how many people.

00:25:32.520 --> 00:25:34.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Do we know that last people that people that died to.

00:25:34.740 --> 00:25:42.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: clover sure, and not only that, but I noticed a lot of people were losing friends and relatives to other diseases.

00:25:42.600 --> 00:25:51.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right, but you know it was all happening right around the same time, so so if, when you lose when you have a loss.

00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:51.690 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah.

00:25:51.720 --> 00:26:03.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: You start to re evaluate things and then you understand you look at stuff and it's like Do I really want to like keep killing myself for a paycheck or do I want to spend more time with my family.

00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:07.650 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think hasn't really good oh yeah there's a m.

00:26:07.980 --> 00:26:16.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I was just gonna say that anyone who asked that question of themselves you take two minutes at the 92 seconds to think about it in the answers very obvious.

00:26:16.230 --> 00:26:23.820 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Like a no brainer no brainer for sure you know what you're saying it kind of reminded something that i've seen with different guests in the show just in life in general is that.

00:26:24.360 --> 00:26:31.860 Eric Sarver, Esq.: As you mentioned it's not as if the pandemic hit and we locked down monster teens and my march 15 we had all this, you know change and everything like that.

00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:40.560 Eric Sarver, Esq.: They change often the thing is building over time, I think, no idea start to formulate it individually and then collectively right individuals talk to one another.

00:26:40.800 --> 00:26:54.000 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And people discuss and read and write articles and people listened and, and so I often see that no movement start there's a buzz a clamoring and then either some major catastrophic event happens that like shake people up.

00:26:54.510 --> 00:26:57.930 Eric Sarver, Esq.: or there's a long period of time for infection, or both.

00:26:58.260 --> 00:27:06.900 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And he that was you know different civil rights movements over the years, some major event happens, people say we can't ignore X any longer, and then they have more time in the hands to decide and.

00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:13.620 Eric Sarver, Esq.: tablets because we're not just you know busy, and the rat race, as you mentioned this tunnel vision, and I think that's like a really good you know.

00:27:14.580 --> 00:27:21.810 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Once you make about meditation you know about the fact that i'm diggin economy has been around I work with business owners and lot of other.

00:27:22.050 --> 00:27:29.220 Eric Sarver, Esq.: startups that have other jobs to and definitely not a new thing with coded but with you know that extra time people's hands with the.

00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:34.620 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Mortality issue and even just with the fact that companies, as you mentioned, like couldn't hide behind.

00:27:34.950 --> 00:27:43.650 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know I mean they could now say hey you know, we want to hire because we feel that, in certain types of creative process of collaboration and connection happened best in person.

00:27:43.950 --> 00:27:52.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But that even opens the door right to the conversations about maybe a mutual Karma is it needs, maybe me, maybe you go into office two days a week, instead of five.

00:27:52.230 --> 00:27:52.920 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Or if you go in.

00:27:53.070 --> 00:28:05.310 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know, once a month for a week and three weeks off, so I think it's all good points, and I think I want our audience to really get a sense of what you know how the collective consciousness is increasing awareness.

00:28:06.300 --> 00:28:17.970 Eric Sarver, Esq.: May you know, be used or thought about when they're trying to change the workplace, but we have to, of course, take a commercial break first so i'll just let everyone know I think really glad to have you tonight, Sam.

00:28:18.780 --> 00:28:27.510 Eric Sarver, Esq.: America soccer hosted employment law today my guest tonight, Sam we woods, the conscious consultant for and talk real nyc stick around we'll be right back.

00:28:28.890 --> 00:28:29.130 yeah.

00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:41.130 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to employment law today i'm your host erick savoured employment law business law attorney and here today with our guests, as I mentioned, for those.

00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:56.190 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Joining maybe the second half of the show we've got Sam leibowitz, who is the executive producer runs the station talk radio nyc that you listening to you tonight and also is the conscious consultant, and as a consciousness on our show on the station as well.

00:30:57.270 --> 00:31:12.060 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Sam you know really good stuff so far we're talking about this clip different continents and a great resignation, you know talking about just how what it's about and how these different trends overarching trends are increasing and creating the resignation.

00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:25.920 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I wondered how grabs entrepreneurship, you know as it exists today might be a factor and how that ties into the theme of collective consciousness like How does that create your resignation, maybe.

00:31:26.310 --> 00:31:31.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So there's a certain mindset and I think it's something and I have to.

00:31:32.460 --> 00:31:42.360 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Talk it from the perspective of someone from the United States, because I know we have listeners around the globe and it's not all the same, but the United States has a lot of influence in terms of culture around the world.

00:31:43.590 --> 00:31:44.100 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: and

00:31:45.450 --> 00:32:01.410 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: way back when before the you know URL or during the early part of before the Industrial Revolution, most people were farmers or shop owners, they were artisans and craftsmen they made shoes they made things, most people were entrepreneurs.

00:32:01.770 --> 00:32:04.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Very few people worked for somebody else.

00:32:04.710 --> 00:32:18.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: hmm, then the industrial revolution comes and we've got these assembly lines, now we need factory workers, and so they figured out how to get farmers and people grew up on a farm.

00:32:19.020 --> 00:32:24.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: How to beat the creativity, out of them so they could be an assembly line worker almost an automaton.

00:32:26.730 --> 00:32:35.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then we're now we have been going back to sort of this way of being of being creative entrepreneurs again and.

00:32:37.140 --> 00:32:40.710 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: early on in the pandemic, I was talking to a friend of mine Cynthia.

00:32:41.910 --> 00:33:04.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: who's a business owner and she talks frequently with with thought leaders in the industry, and she said how before the pandemic, the ratio of sort of entrepreneurs to employees was about 25 to 75 25% of the population, roughly work for themselves and 75% work for other people.

00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:25.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right yeah and that it had been predicted for that to flip to be 75% work for themselves and 25% work for other people over the course of the next 20 to 30 years but, once the pandemic kid boom that timeline shorten tremendously.

00:33:26.070 --> 00:33:26.640 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah and I.

00:33:26.670 --> 00:33:33.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: don't know what it is right now but i'm willing to bet it probably pretty close to 5050.

00:33:33.840 --> 00:33:34.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: If not.

00:33:35.190 --> 00:33:45.390 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Even entrepreneurship edging a little bit over that because I just see myself so many people are are getting involved in in what they call the information economy being.

00:33:45.810 --> 00:33:54.660 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Thought leaders coaches consultants yeah and I work with a lot of people in they used to be employees and and they just tired of it burnt out.

00:33:55.500 --> 00:34:01.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: It doesn't call to their heart anymore, because now they're more again spending time with themselves.

00:34:01.410 --> 00:34:09.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah being more in touch with what feels right what what is really in tune with our hearts with our souls with our spirit.

00:34:10.080 --> 00:34:12.840 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And people want to do something else, they want to do something to help.

00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:14.310 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: People to support people.

00:34:14.670 --> 00:34:20.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah you know a lot of people, not everybody, not everybody, but a lot of people.

00:34:21.300 --> 00:34:25.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: just want to see the world become a better place.

00:34:25.770 --> 00:34:26.760 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah yeah.

00:34:26.790 --> 00:34:33.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And in order to do that most people are trying to share their story share their experience.

00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:36.870 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: To support others and feeling like they can do the same thing.

00:34:38.040 --> 00:34:43.620 Eric Sarver, Esq.: it's interesting it's like it's almost like this change that you're seeing accelerate, as you mentioned, accelerated changing towards.

00:34:44.160 --> 00:34:51.390 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Entrepreneurship, I felt that people clients of mine, over the course of the last two years time or new business owners of our older ones was established ones.

00:34:52.020 --> 00:35:05.760 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And when I asked a new ones like what got you here some kind of joke that you know they quote unquote chosen because their company closed down or your massive layoffs because they've been damaged and the economy economy economic factors, economy and such.

00:35:06.810 --> 00:35:13.920 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So there's a sort of like the push for others, and they were kind of like on the diving board, you know or they're sort of like climbing up the ladder.

00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:21.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: To the diving board the jump bar for four years they're taking those steps and then dependent well that sort of pushing that the sink or swim.

00:35:22.140 --> 00:35:24.360 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So, but but, of course, others are thinking you know.

00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:32.790 Eric Sarver, Esq.: In line with us topic tonight that's a great resignation others, maybe did not lose their jobs, but you know they read it, they could work themselves.

00:35:33.180 --> 00:35:43.950 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I think, as you mentioned the whole purpose that whole sense of value, I think a lot of people were feeling devalued undervalued by their companies, as I mentioned how autumn on you know automatic.

00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:46.170 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: automatons yeah.

00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:53.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And, in some ways it's almost like like business Karma it's kind of.

00:35:53.820 --> 00:36:02.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah companies used to be at least small businesses and decent sized company used to be relatively loyal to their employees.

00:36:02.730 --> 00:36:06.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Sure, then that loyalty completely eroded.

00:36:06.690 --> 00:36:15.120 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah employee engagement in the workplace, was at an all time low workplace morale was like in the in the bottom of the barrel.

00:36:16.530 --> 00:36:29.040 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: and employees in general have been taken advantage of and taken for granted for so long yeah and now finally people this this new awareness of being empowered of saying you know what I don't have to take this.

00:36:29.310 --> 00:36:38.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I don't have to you know just take any job just because that I hate just because I have to pay the bills, I can do something different.

00:36:38.820 --> 00:36:47.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And so, and so it's kind of like that Karma coming around and now the employees saying to the employers well you know you took advantage of it, so you took us for granted for so long.

00:36:48.780 --> 00:36:57.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: By we're going someplace where we're not taking full advantage of or another thing that I actually love the younger generation, the.

00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:58.470 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: millennials and the gen Z years.

00:36:58.980 --> 00:37:04.560 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah because they make their values very important when they're deciding who to work for.

00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:23.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then, for the company doesn't align with their values they don't want it, they don't want to work there yeah and if they find like the company's just paying lip service, whether it's to, as you mentioned before issues like dei or the the ecology, the environment.

00:37:23.730 --> 00:37:30.060 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah like if they see like a company is not being a good citizen of the planet they're out of there.

00:37:30.330 --> 00:37:36.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah and I applaud them 100% for being that way I don't think they're entitled I don't think they're lazy.

00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:37.080 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah.

00:37:37.170 --> 00:37:37.980 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think that.

00:37:38.010 --> 00:37:46.290 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: they're showing us what what is possible when when people stand up for what they truly believe in.

00:37:47.100 --> 00:37:55.770 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I yeah I agree, I agree with that wholeheartedly, you know it's funny it's i'm a gen square the agenda extra so i'm not a millennial or you know, a gen Z or but.

00:37:56.550 --> 00:38:09.000 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i've often thought that they had a raised bed unfair shake a bad rap and I think that you know, like they have generations that graduate into the most difficult economic times, a lot of them came up in the crash or eight or nine or you know 2009 or 10.

00:38:09.210 --> 00:38:11.820 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Were stressed out of college at the job market and they saw their.

00:38:11.820 --> 00:38:18.930 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Parents lose their homes, their jobs in the mortgage crisis for that, and a lot of them to sweat let's do unspeakable they're just challenging times.

00:38:19.200 --> 00:38:28.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: People coming into the workplace during the pandemic, you know, having their rent their co workers, so I seem very resilient generation and or generations, I should say now.

00:38:29.190 --> 00:38:36.690 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So, like I, I agree with you think there and I think that you know the the value of the ability to focus on their values.

00:38:37.290 --> 00:38:44.100 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think is important, maybe, driven by and contributes to this other factor we talked about earlier, which is it getting hot me.

00:38:44.370 --> 00:38:51.210 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right, because if you know if you have strong values and you tell company hey if you don't meet my values like i'm out of here.

00:38:51.570 --> 00:39:03.030 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know you're not saying i'm out of here i'm going to now, I have no safety net, I can't pay my rent or pay bills like you can say i'm out of here the up my you know my door dash uber uber driving whatever.

00:39:03.870 --> 00:39:19.110 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And maybe the day trading until you get a different job start my own company, and I think that people who maybe work in those positions having time to reflect and think about the sort of the rat race and even leaving and say I don't want that for myself, you know, so I think it's.

00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.240 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Interesting right exactly I mean I remember me both my parents were employees.

00:39:24.270 --> 00:39:26.460 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: They actually both work at my mom.

00:39:26.670 --> 00:39:31.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: was a school teacher my dad was a statistician I mean his job doesn't even exist anymore.

00:39:31.470 --> 00:39:32.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: taken over by computer.

00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:33.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right yeah.

00:39:33.810 --> 00:39:43.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: But when I was a kid and I actually don't remember this, but I heard my mom tell the story many times um is is he took an early retirement.

00:39:44.520 --> 00:39:45.930 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And after he took his.

00:39:45.930 --> 00:39:56.190 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Retirement because they are, they were either going to demote him to like a lower paid position or he took retirement and he figured out that if you took a lower paid position his pension would be less.

00:39:56.520 --> 00:39:58.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right, so he retired early.

00:39:59.430 --> 00:40:06.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And then he found out that they a few years afterwards that they weren't paying him what they were supposed to be paying him.

00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:11.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: That he should have been paid more out of his pension, and so we took the city to court to small claims court.

00:40:13.260 --> 00:40:16.830 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And the judge said to him, Mr leibowitz.

00:40:17.910 --> 00:40:30.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: You made a very good case and I can see, with all the evidence that you're absolutely right, but I can't side in your favor because, if I do it will open up a lot a whole slew of lawsuits for other people.

00:40:31.200 --> 00:40:40.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: The same issue has happened with, and it will bankrupt, the city so as much as you know your I can say you're right, I can rule in your favor.

00:40:41.850 --> 00:40:53.460 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i'm going to do that if I read his attorney back then, like you know just a lot of flaws and that reasoning, when you feel when you let again but that's one of the senior worry about and try to pay him and sit on a court but anyway so you're saying yeah.

00:40:53.520 --> 00:40:55.860 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right, so I mean that kind of crushed him.

00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:02.970 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: But like that's what I saw as a kid so it's like Why would I work for anybody even a municipality can screw you.

00:41:03.150 --> 00:41:11.580 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right right there's no like like whoever is the you know the old expression right the golden rule who he who has the gold makes the rules.

00:41:11.670 --> 00:41:12.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah.

00:41:12.180 --> 00:41:16.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah so it's kind of like when you're going up against you know big.

00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:32.160 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Companies it's like you can't really fight them, the only way, you can fight them is with your wallet and with your feet yeah and and so people who, who have experiences similar to mine it's like your there's not much encouragement to go work there.

00:41:32.340 --> 00:41:40.890 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah yeah absolutely and I think that, like you know this all comes down to people share their experiences, you know we're all now much more connected we're on social media one video when zoom.

00:41:41.250 --> 00:41:49.560 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Like people stories like yours somebody listings name as they happen to my father to me, you know, so I think it's like maybe part of the information sort of.

00:41:50.550 --> 00:42:00.900 Eric Sarver, Esq.: This the the the social media presence and the way that people were all kind of like more connected it's like the stories become less anecdotal unless rare and more like Oh, this is actually the norm.

00:42:02.220 --> 00:42:12.360 Eric Sarver, Esq.: With right but thinking a question for you, Sam now you know what you do as a Congressman felton as everything we're talking about you know self employed individuals and walk away from the employer, but i'm wondering.

00:42:13.260 --> 00:42:25.890 Eric Sarver, Esq.: As the conscious consultant, and what you do, how about some of your working with business owners of businesses and employers what might you do to help them and say to increase their we tend to me almost to combat some of that corporate Karma.

00:42:26.220 --> 00:42:31.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Will the first thing is to learn from your employees.

00:42:31.770 --> 00:42:33.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah to ask them.

00:42:35.070 --> 00:42:40.230 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: What What would you want, you know they did a study years ago years years years ago.

00:42:40.530 --> 00:42:50.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right about what gave people, the greatest job satisfaction and it wasn't about their salary, yes, about at the time it was about recognition.

00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:56.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right, so it just goes to show it doesn't have to cost you a lot, maybe just recognize people.

00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.690 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: But it's treat your employees as human beings.

00:43:00.810 --> 00:43:01.260 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right.

00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:07.440 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: You have to treat the people who work for you, I mean there are your greatest asset if.

00:43:07.470 --> 00:43:10.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: you're willing to support them.

00:43:10.350 --> 00:43:16.110 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And let them know that you actually do appreciate them, because without any employees you don't have a company.

00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:17.820 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right yeah and.

00:43:18.120 --> 00:43:27.150 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And and it's people respond to that when it's true when that when it's just you know words coming out of a mouth and you don't really mean it.

00:43:27.390 --> 00:43:33.780 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And if it's just words and your actions don't follow suit it's got to be authentic and your actions have to follow your words.

00:43:33.990 --> 00:43:39.990 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Yet value your employees you'd see all the time, the most successful companies in the world.

00:43:40.230 --> 00:43:48.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah those that have the best environment to work for yet and they're constantly rated as the best workplaces.

00:43:49.350 --> 00:43:54.330 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Absolutely absolutely something I impart to my clients is an employment law attorney and business attorney so often.

00:43:54.690 --> 00:43:57.810 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know a lot of companies come to me like when you do the right thing.

00:43:58.200 --> 00:44:07.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And so, over the years, come to me saying what's the least amount of vacation time at them legally required to give to my people and I I tell them, so I think if this might give them some.

00:44:07.860 --> 00:44:13.650 Eric Sarver, Esq.: minimum wage, I can offer, and I think you know, like this is like the law office as a floor and not a CEO and you can go more.

00:44:13.980 --> 00:44:20.820 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But, as some of them said to me why would I and i've answered you know well, you might not get in trouble with this minimum bare bones.

00:44:21.090 --> 00:44:28.110 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But you get to get the bare bones sort of the minimum response and you get to have a loss of employee morale and you'd be surprised how much just.

00:44:28.410 --> 00:44:36.330 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Acknowledging someone, not to say, but just money but with sometimes like more vacation time shows that you value them or you know, having programs like.

00:44:36.810 --> 00:44:45.660 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Speaking to your employees are heart desires, you know their their their passions I think you're right about the actions, following the words to and.

00:44:46.170 --> 00:44:53.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: that's really good stuff we know on to tonight I like I think we have to take a commercial break from that, yes, we do.

00:44:54.060 --> 00:45:02.220 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So we're going to be right back everyone with them, Sam leibowitz my guest on my show employment law today i'm your host erick solver.

00:45:02.700 --> 00:45:15.960 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Talk regarding my see stay tuned we've got more good stuff to come talking about how business can help to increase improve retention like Sam mentioned, and also talking about this issue, it in really more detail so stay tuned we'll be right back.

00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:51.810 Listening to talk radio nyc at www talk radio dot nyc now broadcasting.

00:47:15.660 --> 00:47:23.190 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to employment law today i'm your host erick solver employment law business law attorney host this weekly live talk radio show.

00:47:23.490 --> 00:47:34.230 Eric Sarver, Esq.: right here on talk radio nyc my guest tonight stations executive producer and manager is Sam leibowitz the conscious consultant and Sam before I come back to our conversation just want to give a.

00:47:34.890 --> 00:47:45.030 Eric Sarver, Esq.: sort of a shout out here, acknowledge be coming from Hannah Hannah Hernandez and I know from the 4% breakthrough group on Facebook and through our colleague and friend lance.

00:47:45.780 --> 00:47:54.090 Eric Sarver, Esq.: lance dog had a good to see you watching and when the that you took the leap into entrepreneurship after company layoffs and.

00:47:55.110 --> 00:48:08.490 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And you're a millennial Lee right on shout out to you and I was telling see i'm actually in the break in the chat box that you know i've seen millennials they get a bad rap and gen Z as well i'm as i'm generation X millennials but.

00:48:09.420 --> 00:48:17.760 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i've always thought it was misplaced and maybe over the ND perhaps like people who see you guys, you know, taking charge your destiny so more power to you.

00:48:18.600 --> 00:48:30.180 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i'ma say, and I just want to kind of circle back now to Sam which would be the question about what we're talking about now this whole topic so i'm wondering.

00:48:31.380 --> 00:48:42.360 Eric Sarver, Esq.: How many employers increase their workers job satisfaction but looking at some broader trends that you started talking to that a little bit with value than their employees what might that look like in other concrete tips.

00:48:43.170 --> 00:48:46.950 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And so you know I think when we come from the place of.

00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:56.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Imagine if we had to do the employees job imagine if this wasn't our business but someone else's business and we were working for them, how would we want to be treated.

00:48:57.060 --> 00:49:05.250 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right, what would we want what kind of encouragement, what kind of opportunity, what kind of development would we want.

00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:20.400 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So, again it's treat your employees like your family, because they are your family, and it means like I mean, let me give you an example of like how I work with some of our production assistants who work for the station.

00:49:20.820 --> 00:49:29.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Sure, so our production assistants, they write up the show notes so summary there's probably hopefully one listening to the show right now taking notes here.

00:49:30.420 --> 00:49:44.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: um and then there are other tasks and other things that they do, but the other things that they do don't have to be done on time schedule yeah they may need to be done by a certain time, but they don't have to be done between nine and five.

00:49:44.610 --> 00:49:47.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Right, so we just I just say to them look.

00:49:48.810 --> 00:49:52.620 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: get it done and just get it done by the appropriate time.

00:49:53.250 --> 00:50:02.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: But like I don't care if you work on it and three o'clock in the morning, or two in the afternoon or or whenever so you allow the person some.

00:50:02.010 --> 00:50:03.000 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: flexibility.

00:50:03.030 --> 00:50:16.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: and allow them to sort of manage their own schedule so look at people, not by the clock, not by you know When did they show up or When did they leave but, but how much did they get done, are they getting things done on time.

00:50:16.860 --> 00:50:28.590 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah and when you give an employee responsibility, give them the authority that they need to to handle that responsibility, give them the decision making, like if they need to.

00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:36.180 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: To they're given a task, and they need to buy some materials or whatever, but they don't have to go through a bunch of red tape to do that.

00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:40.530 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: That right Howard, I mean it can be within limits, but they're empowered to.

00:50:40.560 --> 00:50:43.260 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Do basic things that they need to do.

00:50:43.590 --> 00:50:54.420 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: right again recognition recognize when people do a good job and when people don't do a good job don't immediately assume that they're a bad employee.

00:50:54.900 --> 00:50:55.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right.

00:50:55.350 --> 00:51:00.480 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: talk to them on a personal level and find out what else might be going on.

00:51:00.660 --> 00:51:00.960 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: March.

00:51:00.990 --> 00:51:09.630 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: They having a problem at home, maybe they just found out their spouse or partner is sick maybe their children is having a difficult time in school.

00:51:10.410 --> 00:51:13.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: You know, understand that we're holistic beings and that.

00:51:13.530 --> 00:51:14.730 Eric Sarver, Esq.: way we.

00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:25.980 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: don't stop being a mother a father, a husband and wife, the minute we walk into the door of the business if we're even in person.

00:51:26.490 --> 00:51:32.550 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah and so again when we adopt this more humane mindset.

00:51:33.690 --> 00:51:42.270 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And we look at people as individuals it's also like things may shift and change don't be so stuck and so rigid.

00:51:42.420 --> 00:51:54.900 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: right and just because you hired somebody to do a specific job, maybe they outgrow that job or maybe they're really much more interested in a different job that they actually would be much better in the role.

00:51:55.530 --> 00:52:08.430 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: figure out like hey is there a way to shift their responsibilities and maybe somebody else's more tuned to take over their job, and you know be flexible don't be we sometimes we tend to get very rigid no, it has to be this way.

00:52:08.430 --> 00:52:11.130 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Because we have our system and we got to do things a certain way.

00:52:11.460 --> 00:52:11.760 and

00:52:12.930 --> 00:52:13.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah.

00:52:13.740 --> 00:52:20.730 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: that the most flexible organizations can take advantage of changes in the market and take advantage of.

00:52:20.730 --> 00:52:24.750 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Different opportunities that rigid companies can it's.

00:52:25.530 --> 00:52:31.620 Eric Sarver, Esq.: very true you know I feel like everything we're talking about tonight, Sam and everything i've heard from recent guests.

00:52:31.890 --> 00:52:39.720 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I feel as if we as a society and even in the business world employees are at a crossroads right it's it's going to be very teachable moment for them in that.

00:52:39.990 --> 00:52:49.050 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know, you can look at like the great resignation, if you just want to kind of just you know write it off as oh bunch of selfish people who don't care, but Twitter is you know we're not tough.

00:52:49.500 --> 00:52:56.160 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Then you know you probably you know perish in long run, because you're not really paying attention to what people actually mean.

00:52:56.370 --> 00:52:57.720 Eric Sarver, Esq.: If you look at it as a teacher i'll.

00:52:57.720 --> 00:52:59.880 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Take just another point on that.

00:53:00.210 --> 00:53:08.010 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I think any company that writes off people like that is really playing with fire.

00:53:08.010 --> 00:53:11.760 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Because right Population growth is down.

00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:18.810 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: yeah in in in any country where the population gets more educated, they have less kids.

00:53:19.110 --> 00:53:26.490 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And the population growth slows down in Japan, they have negative population growth, it is a huge problem in.

00:53:26.490 --> 00:53:26.910 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Japan.

00:53:27.120 --> 00:53:36.540 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: that the number of young people entering the workforce are not enough to really support the older people and they're asking people retired to come back and work because they don't have enough workers.

00:53:36.870 --> 00:53:37.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And yeah.

00:53:37.230 --> 00:53:53.340 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: If you're a company and you're not valuing valuing your workers your employees, you may be able to survive for a while and you may be able to still practice some pretty bad habits and be nasty to people, but in the long run, you may end up.

00:53:54.660 --> 00:53:58.500 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: You know, going out of business because they're you're not going to be able to find people.

00:53:59.100 --> 00:54:06.150 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right it's a usually flexibility, adaptability know willingness to change the willingness to let go of some rigid, as you mentioned.

00:54:06.540 --> 00:54:16.470 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Control which often I think it's like the company's fear you know they do it's the fear of we change this, you know that something all kind of fall apart and unravel and we need order and structure but.

00:54:16.830 --> 00:54:24.480 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Order and structure is fine, but I think within limits are finding I think a lot of finding out that you know if we have been only be as big of an order.

00:54:25.230 --> 00:54:28.950 Eric Sarver, Esq.: During the pandemic and never wanted to change we be.

00:54:29.610 --> 00:54:35.730 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Like the way the way of the dodo bird yeah speaking of the way things go we're actually going to the next shows two minutes three minutes left.

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:45.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: This is time right usually leave you Sam tell it I guess know next two minutes or audience, or rather, how we can find you any things you have going on coming up it's all the floors yours.

00:54:46.260 --> 00:54:52.740 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Thank you Eric Thank you so much, and thanks again for having me on your show again it's always a fun time having a conversation with you.

00:54:53.190 --> 00:54:53.550 Eric Sarver, Esq.: same here.

00:54:53.610 --> 00:55:02.370 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: So yes, if you like, some of the things I said, please come to listen to my show on Thursday at 12 noon Eastern time.

00:55:03.030 --> 00:55:08.700 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: I have a really fascinating guests, this week, Dr Rochelle hashimi own who's a neuro.

00:55:09.390 --> 00:55:20.520 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: scientist and who study the brain and we're actually going to touch upon some of the things and she's going to bring a slightly different perspective from myself on Thursday at noon.

00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:34.800 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: And if you want to learn more about myself my website it's real simple it's the conscious consultant singular calm and and also if you'd like to get my book.

00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:49.080 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: it's called everyday awakening and you can go to www dot everyday awakening book.com it'll take you right to the listing on Amazon it's a great little book and it'll give you some decent different perspectives on things.

00:55:50.550 --> 00:56:04.110 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Excellent excellent really great to have that information about you how people can contact you you book your show really great stuff you know I know we have some great shows on the station to either leave just a friend the macros coming up with gateway.

00:56:04.140 --> 00:56:05.670 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: To this smoke smoke case.

00:56:05.940 --> 00:56:10.740 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Yes, think right, I know you love the show ourselves sure so stick around folks.

00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:18.180 Eric Sarver, Esq.: you're listening to employment law today if you enjoyed what you heard tonight tune in Tuesdays at 5pm Eastern standard time.

00:56:18.450 --> 00:56:27.600 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I always have interesting guests folks like Sam we with that one Thank you again thanks for having me on the show always a pleasure talking with you as well, and you know we're very.

00:56:28.110 --> 00:56:37.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Interesting challenging times here, I think, very crucial for business owners and employers to know these issues and to really get different perspectives, if you like, what you heard.

00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:46.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Tell your friends tell your colleagues tell your employees to listen in and talk to nyc i'm Eric solver host of the show and also employment law.

00:56:46.650 --> 00:56:57.030 Eric Sarver, Esq.: business law attorney wishing everyone here a great night have a safe happy healthy rest of the week and i'll see you all back here next Tuesday at 5pm Thank you once again.

00:56:57.420 --> 00:56:58.350 Sam Liebowitz | The Conscious Consutlant: Thank you all right take care.

00:56:58.920 --> 00:56:59.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Take care now.

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