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Facebook Live Video from 2021/06/04 - Write Your Own Story with Joshua David Stein

Facebook Live Video from 2021/06/04 - Write Your Own Story with Joshua David Stein


2021/06/04 - Write Your Own Story with Joshua David Stein

[NEW EPISODE] Write Your Own Story with Joshua David Stein

This week I’m talking with free-lance writer, food enthusiast & martial artist, Joshua David Stein. We’re looking to unpack what’s happened over the last year or so in the aforementioned scenes in NYC.

Tune in for this energetic conversation at or watch the Facebook Livestream by clicking here.

Show Notes

Segment 1

Jeremiah introduces his guest for this week, Joshua David Stein, a successful free-lance writer, food enthusiast and martial artist. The two go in depth on how they met through martial arts training, as well as Joshua’s formal education at New York University, where he designed his own major, ethnomusicology. He explains what ethnomusicology is, that is the study of the music of different cultures, and while it is an important study, it was difficult to find a job within the field. Joshua continues on to explain his education in ballet, and how he originally decided to take ballet classes because he was infatuated with the teacher of the class. While taking the class he realized how physically demanding ballet was, and how he enjoyed the aspects of training of ballet, working out and dancing, all while listening to live music. Following his education in ballet, he explains he had to make a decision between continuing in dance and the internship he had at Harper’s Magazine, which he decided to go through with his internship. Jeremiah and Joshua discuss the writing aspects of Joshua’s formal education in ethnomusicology, and how through NYU he had taken a class on expository writing. Because he has taken these classes, he realized he had a talent for writing, and that is what he wanted to pursue post graduation. The two continue on to discuss academia and its relationship with music and the study of music, as well as their personal opinions on music academia.

Segment 2

Jeremiah and Joshua discuss Joshua’s career path, and how for a long while Joshua was an editor at a magazine, before he transitioned to being a freelance writer. Joshua explains his time as a writer at Gawker Media, and from his job there he began to move up the corporate ladder and achieved higher positions, as he was a senior editor at a magazine. He continues to explain how he continued to work a fulltime job, while working on his freelance writing on the site, so he could build up his portfolio so he could make the jump to completely freelance. Joshua continues to explain his pivot in his freelance work from articles to books, as he was able to work on longer projects, and write about what he wanted to write about, rather than what he needed to write about. Jeremiah and Joshua continue the conversation to discuss Joshua’s time in the food industry as a critic, as Joshua explains that while working at Gawker he wrote about and produced videos about food. Joshua goes in depth about his career journey through the food industry, discussing how networking had helped him advance his career tenfold. The two discuss Joshua’s pieces on ballet and martial arts, with Joshua explaining the training he went through that prepared him to be able to write these pieces.

Segment 3

Jeremiah and Joshua go in depth on their Brazilian Jiu Jitsu training, and their mindsets while training. Joshua explains how he separates emotions from his training, and how he struggles with this, as many of the moves that he uses while rolling would not anger him if another person used them on him, but he often finds that it angers his opponents. Jeremiah explains the mindsets he holds while training in Jiu Jitsu, as well as the Jiu Jitsu teachers that he keeps in mind while he trains. He discusses the importance of considering your opponents level while training, and Joshua agrees with this sentiment. The two discuss the variety of strategies and techniques they employ with the different opponents they train against, and how they decide which techniques to use. Joshua explains how one of his favorite aspects of Jiu Jitsu training is the natural flow of rolling. He explains how he struggles with his uncertainty of the decisions of what technique he employs in a particular situation, as he isn’t sure if what he chose to do was right or wrong, and he finds himself obsessing over whether or not it was right or wrong. Jeremiah gives Joseph advice on how to combat this stress regarding his uncertainty.

Segment 4

The two discuss in depth what teachings of Jiu Jitsu has affected them the most throughout their lives, as well as how the Covid-19 pandemic has affected their careers as well as their Jiu Jitsu training. Joshua explains how there are many challenges that he faces during his day to day life as a freelance writer, and how even though he doesn’t know what his career will look like in five years, he has the confidence in himself and his work to believe that he will continue to find his way no matter what challenges he faces. Jeremiah explains how he takes the lessons he learns from Jiu Jitsu and applies them to his career as an entrepreneur.


00:00:32.100 --> 00:00:43.890 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: what's up everybody happy Friday welcome welcome welcome once again you're listening to the entrepreneurial web i'm your host Jeremiah fox before I introduce my guest today, the message of the week.

00:00:44.850 --> 00:00:52.770 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Something our martial arts instructor used to say we train them to the same since a professor for quite a while.

00:00:54.090 --> 00:01:06.720 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The best story, you could read is the one you write yourself remember him saying that no I do many times stuck with me yeah I don't write very well, but we'll we'll talk more.

00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:22.980 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: About that would that I would like to introduce a good friend neighbor training partner he's freelance writer a food enthusiast a man of many, many talents so many talents handsome to like it doesn't make me look bad for them.

00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:45.870 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: With that, like to welcome joshua David Stein he's so good dad to name them twice that's that's right actually Google there's another josh Stein who was like a real estate attorney and I like that stop stealing all my goodness yeah so PURA corolla welcome to the show i'm invited.

00:01:46.890 --> 00:01:55.770 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I was going to talk English I hated it so much it was your pleasure to be on the show very remarkable to have you here.

00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:26.310 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Focusing on se, so we met training at sun dojo together Brazilian jujitsu but you you grew up kind of in a dojo like your House was like an aikido Dan yeah I grew up my step dad for all intensive purposes ran an aikido dojo outside of Philadelphia, and so I trained there all the time.

00:02:27.570 --> 00:02:29.760 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like six days a week, two hours a day.

00:02:31.050 --> 00:02:44.070 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And then, when we got home it wasn't like the training stopped it was just like no, you will be training by chopping wood and like painting in a house and go into the range, you know it's like you know watch your watch all my Clarks yes.

00:02:47.940 --> 00:02:59.070 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And, and you went to nyu did, and you also studied ballet that's also correct, yes, and your degrees in.

00:03:00.540 --> 00:03:18.570 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: useless if you get one I did that's useless, I mean I agree and useless yeah like that that's it, I went to a school at nyu called gallatin where you can just design your own major yeah yeah and my major was ethnomusicology which is not a pointless major it's not um but.

00:03:20.940 --> 00:03:28.650 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: trying to find a job as an actor musicologist was not happening for me and my My thesis was on.

00:03:29.640 --> 00:03:37.710 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The lament in post World War Two popular music, which basically means I just wrote a thesis on cat power and the yeah yeah yeah.

00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:44.280 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And that's not getting me anywhere, where you trying to do it in the context of like Western.

00:03:44.940 --> 00:03:50.760 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Music yeah yeah yeah so like so much music ethnomusicology for our viewers and listeners.

00:03:51.150 --> 00:04:00.840 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Is a sociological study of music so whereas musicology is about music theory and that kind of stuff ethnomusicology is like, how does it fit within the context of society.

00:04:01.470 --> 00:04:13.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Most ethnomusicology is a lot of other musicology either non Western or subcultures within America, like my hero, and the reason why I did it.

00:04:14.700 --> 00:04:20.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: with another musicologist named Alan lomax you traveled to the deep South in with his dad john moments.

00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:27.660 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I read a book on the Mississippi delta blues when I was like 16 if the kona dude back it.

00:04:28.770 --> 00:04:29.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: turns out.

00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:31.590 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: that's tough to do.

00:04:32.700 --> 00:04:45.060 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So when I graduate ny you um I had started doing ballet at nyu and while I was in college, because I don't know if anyone remembers the gym called crunch, which I think it's still.

00:04:47.520 --> 00:04:47.940 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: grip.

00:04:48.960 --> 00:04:52.290 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: On the logo yeah very pop pop logo.

00:04:54.810 --> 00:05:09.270 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: There was a ballet class called ballet boot camp there and I walked by and I fell in love with the teacher she's like the most like I come from the suburbs of Philadelphia, not to say there's not beautiful women in the suburbs of Philadelphia, there are but.

00:05:10.380 --> 00:05:14.460 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: She was the most beautiful person i've ever seen ever in my life, and I was.

00:05:16.200 --> 00:05:25.140 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: In love, and so I started taking this ballet class with her to try to like just when her yeah and win her over and.

00:05:27.060 --> 00:05:27.960 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It worked.

00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:36.540 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was a messed up, and it was a complicated relationship, she was 30 I was 17, this is a kids program okay let's.

00:05:39.150 --> 00:05:56.220 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: let's get dirty now I had no idea, this was coming guys This is great all right, you she was 38 you were 17 yeah she was um she's great we started doing ballet you know I had done martial arts growing up and I had wrestled, and all this stuff but then the idea to be.

00:05:57.330 --> 00:06:04.620 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: physically active and like express yourself emotionally with, and it was a really tough workout muscles that I had never used.

00:06:05.820 --> 00:06:08.910 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And there's this beautiful woman there, it was like too much and then.

00:06:11.250 --> 00:06:24.450 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: We started going to other like actual dance classes like outside of crunch and then there's a live pianist and it's like are you kidding you get to work out dance and there's live music like it couldn't it couldn't be better.

00:06:26.610 --> 00:06:38.730 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So that's how I got into ballet and then, when I graduated school, it was either do I pursue dance I was more also like a modern I ended up doing more modern stuff like with strength and like acrobatic stuff.

00:06:39.510 --> 00:06:44.670 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: partially because I don't have great arches which is like quite important, but you shouldn't feel it.

00:06:46.440 --> 00:06:50.640 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Is kind of between doing that or I had gotten an internship at harper's magazine.

00:06:52.440 --> 00:07:05.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And it was like do I want to do I see myself in 10 years as a writer or trying to make it as a dancer and I chose to speak and how did, how did that come about how did you end up just doing like an internship at harper's yeah um.

00:07:07.200 --> 00:07:22.830 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: My friend Carmel is an artist and let's go into Cooper union and why you could reunion early next year Cooper was free at the time until like all the kids who got into Cooper were like the smell like they were the best that whatever are basically very hard to get into.

00:07:24.090 --> 00:07:31.050 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: One time I went to Carmel his house for some holiday and her family is quite.

00:07:32.430 --> 00:07:41.100 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: illustrious her dad as an architect moisture softy and her mom was good friends his good friend to samantha power who later went on to become the.

00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:47.490 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: She wrote she wrote a book called a problem from how American the age of genocide.

00:07:48.390 --> 00:07:57.570 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: which I think won a pulitzer one a bunch of prizes later she went on to become under Obama, the US ambassador to the UN she's like she's fucking dope.

00:07:58.500 --> 00:08:04.500 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: she's like cool she's awesome she's a family friend basically she was working on a book and she said.

00:08:05.280 --> 00:08:16.140 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Do you want to help me research and I was like yes, so I helped her research that and that was a moment where, if you dropped like yeah what miss samantha power.

00:08:16.980 --> 00:08:21.720 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah it's like yes, you got little currency yeah also just to note a.

00:08:22.590 --> 00:08:35.010 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: place of tremendous privilege to be able to have a non paid internship for six months, like I wouldn't have been able to do that if I didn't have support from my family so i'm not taking that in any way for granted, so I wanted to note that.

00:08:36.420 --> 00:08:51.000 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So yeah and then that kind of was my that I got sucked up and then studying like attempting to be an Fo musicologist to do a lot of writing as well yeah and while you was interesting because.

00:08:52.950 --> 00:09:04.290 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It kind of offers as good in education or is bad in education, as you want like, no one is it's not guaranteed you'll learn anything and for the most part, I feel like I learned.

00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:17.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I just developed contacts with people like i've been in New York for 20 years a lot of those people have gone on to do wonderful things and I know them and they know me and that's been very helpful.

00:09:18.990 --> 00:09:23.160 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: In terms of like academic rigor it wasn't there yet.

00:09:24.390 --> 00:09:28.500 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But there was this one track that you could get sucked up in which is called.

00:09:29.730 --> 00:09:45.600 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: expository writing, which is basically nonfiction essays and that kind of thing, so I had taken that class the entire time I was in college, so I graduated already thinking that I wanted to knowing I was good, with words and kind of wanting to get into that.

00:09:47.310 --> 00:10:00.180 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But initially I was so very much wanted to be like hard news political science that kind of thing pretty soon I realized that, like my tastes in terms of a lifestyle.

00:10:03.210 --> 00:10:05.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: don't match my income level.

00:10:07.350 --> 00:10:12.870 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I like eating out at restaurants, I like drinking I like traveling I, like all now we're getting into the dark.

00:10:14.520 --> 00:10:27.570 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I was like well if I want to be able to do any of this, I need to subsidize I need to write and get paid and someone else needs to pay for this, because I can't pay for this, so I ended up writing about food and travel and like luxury lifestyle and.

00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:36.900 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah I mean I think when i'm on my deathbed and the question is like did you do anything meaningful it'll be like man.

00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:47.220 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I went to believe a bunch of times I mean we're only 10 minutes and then there's a lot there yeah we could spend the rest of time and.

00:10:47.940 --> 00:11:04.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: there's a lot there, I actually wanted to do a PhD I was considering doing a PhD and SMEs apology oh really that i've got a an undergrad and a Masters and performance yeah and in percussion and you know there's a lot the choir was going to go back to Brazil and.

00:11:05.550 --> 00:11:09.870 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Go back to the favelas and try to keep member that stuff's to construct.

00:11:11.760 --> 00:11:12.960 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: My brother's gonna love this.

00:11:14.250 --> 00:11:22.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It should be noted that my ex wife is Brazilian so I he actually he actually teach speaks Portuguese Portuguese I speak English.

00:11:23.370 --> 00:11:35.610 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So it's very frustrating um but I, you know, I was considering that definitely like South America yeah or West Africa, the thing, though, is is like in terms of a career it's mostly like.

00:11:36.270 --> 00:11:41.400 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: academia yeah and those jobs are really hard to get and.

00:11:42.210 --> 00:11:50.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: What I found studying at nyu they didn't have it on undergrad, but they do have an undergraduate level, and so I was taking a bunch of graduate level ethnomusicology classes.

00:11:51.660 --> 00:12:03.900 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I don't think I care about anything that much you know, like they get so into it and it's like who gives a Fuck like really I don't care, well, I like your a like I was thinking to I wanted to.

00:12:04.890 --> 00:12:12.090 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: study you know, like South America and Caribbean and African music, but just to tie it back in yeah to.

00:12:12.450 --> 00:12:21.660 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, American ethnic music, like the way that the you know max's did yeah I studied them a lot, you know when I was in school and listen to a lot of those recordings.

00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:30.390 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: um but kind of like a more contemporary version, especially, like all the offshoots of how you know blues and jazz turned into all these other things yeah.

00:12:31.470 --> 00:12:35.790 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And, and you know, I think it would be an interesting topic, I think.

00:12:36.900 --> 00:12:41.400 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But I feel like that is really it's a lot of work it's a lot of work, and I feel like is it.

00:12:42.450 --> 00:12:50.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I feel happy that i've become a journalist and a writer more because i'm not writing obviously academic papers, but I am trying to write.

00:12:51.900 --> 00:12:56.250 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: In a way, that's engaging on the subject matter that a broad audience will want to read.

00:12:56.820 --> 00:13:11.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Whereas I don't mean to denigrate it all academic papers, because that's so much of what my own work, draws from, but the audience is so limited yeah no I mean to me it's kind of like that it's not a perfect parallel but it's like poker tour versus like ready to where it's like.

00:13:13.710 --> 00:13:32.820 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Okay couture is like the ideal I guess model and the source of a lot of inspiration, but very close off and almost like exclusive most people can afford or even understand it yeah level but it's filters down into like more popular.

00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:41.640 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Expressions so like yeah i'm happy to write about I don't love writing rap music anymore, but like.

00:13:43.740 --> 00:13:59.280 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I like writing in a way that gives the public a little bit of like you get 20% of the detail but 150% of the audience, you know what I mean kind of like the shop we'd like to be informative yet interchange was like to entertain.

00:14:00.300 --> 00:14:04.980 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: formative yet superficial Jeremiah total misappropriation.

00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.970 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: All right, we got to take our first break everybody hang tight we'll be right back.

00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:42.720 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: or I.

00:16:49.260 --> 00:16:58.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: gotta send you this guy's stuff because these was hilarious welcome back everybody again you're listening to the entrepreneur web i'm your host Jeremiah fox just.

00:16:59.550 --> 00:17:02.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: antagonizing my guest today, dear friend training partner.

00:17:03.330 --> 00:17:16.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And freelance writer joshua David Stein so nice little background on how you like meandered you know you know from ethnomusicology to ballet to working for a magazine yes um what were, what was the hustle like did you.

00:17:17.070 --> 00:17:24.300 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Have you always been like freelance or did you ever have like you worked like you had a job at a spot.

00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:30.720 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah I mean I for a long time, I was an editor so I was on the masthead.

00:17:32.730 --> 00:17:45.510 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: kind of I thought that was a path, I wanted to take like as a as a writer editor you have to choose, I was a senior editor at departures, which is a luxury lifestyle magazine.

00:17:46.590 --> 00:17:47.460 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Well, first of all.

00:17:49.680 --> 00:18:01.770 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: My big break, if you want to call it that, which do you have you made it yeah i've made I made I made, I have made, I think I spend my day doing what I want to do that, you know.

00:18:02.700 --> 00:18:11.340 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But I worked for a website called gawker when I was quite young when I was like in my 20s 2223, and this was like at the height of gawkers.

00:18:12.120 --> 00:18:26.910 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: gawker is like a media wasn't media website in Manhattan can they see us taking skills gawker was a media website in Manhattan that later grew to be, I mean the people that are watching can see listed always listening again see if they can imagine um.

00:18:28.320 --> 00:18:37.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I got a job as an editor At first I ran a travel website and then I got a job as an editor for this website called gawker which is like quite field and quite powerful at the time.

00:18:38.430 --> 00:18:49.950 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And it's run by this guy Nick denton later much later it was destroyed by Hulk hogan and Peter Teal and like a very litigious conflagration but, at the time.

00:18:51.600 --> 00:18:59.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was like if you were an editor a doctor, you are like feared and powerful and it was huge ego trip to be honest, which, like.

00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:12.570 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I think Fuck me later like feared by who like like we would do like the guys on the street or no like media it like it was very focused on media stuff like that guy we saw on 30th yeah hey.

00:19:13.710 --> 00:19:20.670 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I worked for Dr 10 years ago you'll have every time I walk down that block on like this, like hand out like shoulders like.

00:19:23.370 --> 00:19:27.330 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I started actually doing it to people around us yeah they did it to me.

00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:35.550 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So I worked for this website and that parlayed into like a bunch of other on staff positions.

00:19:38.040 --> 00:19:54.060 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: kind of what I would say reach the peak as the editor in Chief of this magazine called black book, which is like a arts and culture magazine, but also at the time that I was becoming an editor so many print publications were folding This is like 2000.

00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:07.320 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like nine to like 15 or something I was in that world, so I really was like hopscotching from failing publication to family publication and then.

00:20:07.980 --> 00:20:15.180 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Just because of the rise of digital enterprises digital those models weren't working there's bloated like.

00:20:15.930 --> 00:20:27.990 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: For a ton of reasons but yeah online I think was a big part of it, I started my career online that I thought to make it, I had to be making and I had to make an imprint I made it in print justice print was pretty much ending.

00:20:28.650 --> 00:20:37.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And there's been a lot of evolution, since then, but that was kind of the story, then I had, I have two sons, who are seven and nine and.

00:20:39.030 --> 00:20:55.890 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Then I felt like I needed a real grown up job, so I started taking jobs over high paying but I didn't really love like it startups and I worked for timing for a while, on the advertising side as a creative director fine and yeah I mean.

00:20:58.290 --> 00:21:00.360 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Well, that was the last, oh no, then I.

00:21:01.710 --> 00:21:03.750 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: took another job right two years.

00:21:04.770 --> 00:21:07.050 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: At fatherly as the editor at large right yeah.

00:21:08.850 --> 00:21:12.630 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Meanwhile, I was trying to hustle on the side.

00:21:13.800 --> 00:21:28.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: To keep my freelance career going because I knew, ultimately, I wanted to make that jump, and so I felt like I was ramping up this one train and trying to ramp up a train on a parallel track, so I could jump and have minimal disruption.

00:21:29.490 --> 00:21:32.760 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Nice metaphor, I thought about that a lot that was good.

00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:49.380 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Because it was kind of hard for a while and there's a lot of like personal cost, to be honest, to have a full time job and be doing this freelancing it's like well where's family, where are these other things in your life I finally made it like I finally made that jump but you know.

00:21:50.850 --> 00:22:02.340 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was rough I was over extended for years and years yeah you know, when what what year was that when you finally kind of crossed over to the dark side you know all freelance or corporate offerings like.

00:22:04.470 --> 00:22:07.680 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Two years ago, two weeks ago and stuff i'm looking for a job.

00:22:08.940 --> 00:22:11.760 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: he's gonna be washing dishes in my restaurant tonight.

00:22:13.980 --> 00:22:14.100 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: um.

00:22:15.630 --> 00:22:17.310 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: What changed for me is I started.

00:22:19.740 --> 00:22:27.960 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I realized that I was a restaurant critic for a long time and answering all the students, well, I wanted to know how you got into like the food scene, because you like, I mean you've done.

00:22:28.260 --> 00:22:43.800 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah some pretty big stuff in terms of food yeah cello wakeboarding and stuff like that right yeah that's i'm sure i'm sure, but oh we'll get to that, but like basically I realized I reached the cap of how much I could make kind of.

00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:51.270 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: there's no way I was going to make more per word or poor per piece, I could always do more, but it wasn't.

00:22:52.830 --> 00:23:09.030 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Viable really in terms of my life, so I kind of made the transition to doing books which take the it's a longer timeline like almost a two year timeline a much bigger pay out per project, but you have your projects, of course.

00:23:10.320 --> 00:23:23.730 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But it kind of ladders, up to a more sustainable lifestyle with like, if I have three or four of those projects, a year, I can do it simply supplemented as well by right what writing, what I want to writing as opposed to writing when I need to write.

00:23:26.940 --> 00:23:35.520 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: When I was at gawker I did a series of videos I wrote about food for darker restaurants, I started out as a restaurant guy like restaurant and nightlife.

00:23:36.270 --> 00:23:45.030 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I did a video call the grid skipper guide to soho it's like a David attenborough riff where I would go to different neighborhoods.

00:23:45.570 --> 00:23:56.670 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And Tony reached out time or damage down it's like Oh, because that was sold as a no reservations which was on at the time had bought pre and post role for that so like it was in his order okay.

00:23:57.630 --> 00:24:12.600 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So he saw the video and he reached out to me he's like this is great it's like okay Tony Burton what who's also that's what you made it, I felt like yeah it was very sweet of him to reach out and he had no.

00:24:14.100 --> 00:24:16.620 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: reason to it, no reason to, of course.

00:24:17.910 --> 00:24:21.000 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But then he's like you should come be my production company CPC.

00:24:22.230 --> 00:24:27.060 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: 0.0 which I did and i'm trying to friends they're probably not watching.

00:24:29.070 --> 00:24:34.500 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Business friends, but we don't we don't hang out our show what do you say Chris Collins is probably not watching it.

00:24:35.520 --> 00:24:40.380 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Where we're like work friends and we've known each other for a long Chris if you're watching calling calling the studio.

00:24:41.670 --> 00:24:42.330 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: doesn't help.

00:24:43.800 --> 00:24:44.520 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But.

00:24:46.560 --> 00:24:48.960 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But yeah so then that's how I got to know Tony and then.

00:24:50.430 --> 00:25:09.270 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: There was a program called mind of a chef or something with Dave chain yeah it was on netflix yeah my name is chef chef yeah that's also CPC I think Okay, so at one point I was running for either, which is a restaurant website and I went over to San Sebastian Spain for.

00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:22.290 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: For some just cured me it's a conference called gastronomical which is like all of the yeah the Nazi video yeah it was great and Tony was there, teaching was there.

00:25:23.970 --> 00:25:32.760 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: If those types of events from an entrepreneurial standpoint it's like the content that I made wasn't really worth anything but for me personally.

00:25:33.090 --> 00:25:43.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: To be seen in that area at those events of those parties like was tremendously helpful from a career standpoint it's like that's where I got to know Tony and and more and like Dave and like.

00:25:45.120 --> 00:25:58.350 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And met the publisher fight in who I later did books with and it's like you're in that little bubble and people look around and during the bubble, and then they see you in the bubble they're like oh you got it, you know I don't care.

00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:04.620 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And then over the years I I you know did a bunch of stories with Tony and like.

00:26:06.570 --> 00:26:07.980 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: He was just a very.

00:26:09.510 --> 00:26:10.320 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Warm.

00:26:11.790 --> 00:26:13.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Wonderful guy.

00:26:14.490 --> 00:26:29.250 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Who also rolled yes quite well, I never rolled with it, but I mean every you know you have cauliflower ear, I remember the last interview or last time we'd like to spend time together his ear was so jacked because he had just a ticket just gotten it drained.

00:26:30.750 --> 00:26:31.560 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like flabby.

00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.870 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So Internet is still bandaged it looked like Van Gogh.

00:26:39.540 --> 00:26:50.640 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: that's awful yeah and you, you did you did a piece for him, so it was to you said right years yeah one of my first published pieces I think when was that.

00:26:52.050 --> 00:26:56.940 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: 2008 nine.

00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:09.630 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I was a trainer at the time I don't remember seeing him is this teacher maxim basically okay so pursuant to what I said earlier about wanting to live a lifestyle that I couldn't really afford or like.

00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:12.000 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah bad.

00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:25.830 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And also, like my favorite thing about being a journalist and seize opportunities to talk to people and go into these situations on civilians don't have not only do I get into the situation but, like, I have an excuse to.

00:27:26.940 --> 00:27:33.510 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Talk and like be there and like I have cover yeah so my cover for this was like I was gonna compare ballet.

00:27:34.530 --> 00:27:38.250 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like intense ballet training and intense MMA or not, and then I.

00:27:40.080 --> 00:27:43.590 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Do I get to watch MMA because I did my title.

00:27:44.670 --> 00:27:50.040 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I didn't combined this but I didn't know enough at the time anyway that's the first jujitsu and ever done.

00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:59.040 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And so I spent like two weeks training ballet like three hours a day, and then like two weeks doing hands, I was like two hours a day for me was like.

00:27:59.910 --> 00:28:10.290 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: A lot um and I remember the first day and this like, as you can, as you know, from having trained with me this has always stayed with me like.

00:28:11.760 --> 00:28:27.210 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I didn't know you know you do a good beginning of class and no one comes out and tells you like you can't slam someone like that's you don't know I didn't know I know where this is going yeah just the fact that, like there's some other poor white belt and I was in.

00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:36.930 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I had, I was in half guard on top, and he wasn't like unleashing his legs so just pick them up and slammed him on his back.

00:28:38.340 --> 00:28:47.400 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I got to talking to yeah but I didn't know the I was like I don't know if I lack common sense I might but.

00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:50.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: How you supposed to know that.

00:28:51.960 --> 00:29:03.870 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That was my big thing about like i'm never crossed my mind I don't know really yeah i've never been like I wish I could just slam this guy right now I always just thought like there's another way to.

00:29:05.070 --> 00:29:21.600 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: dismember him, oh no for me as a nicer way yeah to to get this person to be late this is i'm done we're transitioning I think jj well we go well let's take a break, and when we come back we're going to talk in jujitsu so hang tight everybody will be right back.

00:32:12.930 --> 00:32:17.910 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Okay, everybody welcome back, he was time now to talk about the Jiu jitsu.

00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:23.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: karama okay pick up where this is my question, this is.

00:32:24.810 --> 00:32:29.910 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Something i've always struggled with in terms of jujitsu or, like any combat sports really but really jujitsu.

00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:38.460 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Because of where we trained, I think, like to me yeah slamming someone is.

00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:57.900 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It to me I don't think about it as like Nice or not Nice, so if he had done it to me I don't think I would have been upset and I didn't have any like bad intention, when I did it to him whatsoever, I find that like generally when I roll I have, I never have.

00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:16.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That I don't have bad intentions and i'm very rarely like feel bad intentions from someone else, even if they're going really hard it's like oh we're going hard now like it's not you're not mad like I if someone is mad at me.

00:33:18.030 --> 00:33:24.510 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I like it's something I have a really hard time with if someone's upset with me, I have a really hard time with it like emotionally.

00:33:25.140 --> 00:33:36.300 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And it's been a frustrating journey, for me, because I feel like, as you know, from rolling with me I don't think i'm out of control, but I do roll harder than at least where we trained before.

00:33:37.530 --> 00:33:48.570 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I found it really tough to deal with that, like, I think I piss people off and it's like to me it didn't make sense, because I felt like.

00:33:49.110 --> 00:34:02.220 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Oh we're we're just rolling you know, like maybe it's that I don't pick up on the social cues that they're giving ball rolling, but just like oh you're gonna go hard i'm going to go hard or even like oh like you're.

00:34:04.710 --> 00:34:05.400 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I don't know like.

00:34:08.190 --> 00:34:28.800 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I never have bad intentions rolling I never want to hurt anyone i'm so kind of like friendly you know, but when we're rolling it's like yeah I like using my weight, I like using my strength, and all this stuff and I didn't come to jujitsu to like make believe it's like we're rolling.

00:34:31.560 --> 00:34:32.460 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And so.

00:34:34.770 --> 00:34:37.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: it's been like a journey for me to.

00:34:39.540 --> 00:34:49.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Which i'm still going through I don't know I mean, I think the core the essence of martial arts in general yeah and particularly jujitsu is is to go.

00:34:49.830 --> 00:35:02.460 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: deep inside yourself and really assess behaviors you know what most of what we do is this habit, you know 90% of what we do is habit, so you get to really see that, because it shows up.

00:35:02.820 --> 00:35:09.510 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You have this habit of like moving a certain way yeah and it looks but sometimes it's beneficial and you're like oh that's good i'll keep that, but a lot of just like.

00:35:09.870 --> 00:35:24.420 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It sucks every time I do that just gets I get body slam freakin wide open yeah that is a um so you get to you get to a sets that physically, which are also good Defense assess that like you know, on a conscious level yeah emotionally and everything i'm.

00:35:25.650 --> 00:35:26.610 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: In and I think.

00:35:28.830 --> 00:35:30.990 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: There is a certain level of.

00:35:34.170 --> 00:35:45.960 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Not intuition, but just reflect ignis when you when you start to consider, like the other person yeah like you like, like, I mean it's never bothered me i've always enjoyed training with us live inviting you.

00:35:46.590 --> 00:36:02.340 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: To my dungeon times yeah I feel like i'm good with that can we mention St on the show yeah so whatever you want Okay, I was, I was good at some dojo with like people who are clearly.

00:36:04.860 --> 00:36:05.340 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like.

00:36:09.090 --> 00:36:21.270 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I guess weaker the number nine a negative way like you know, like we rolled with a lot of people from a whole range of backgrounds and and like women who were like in their 50s whatever.

00:36:21.750 --> 00:36:28.080 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: If I know clearly like okay now in my mind gentle This is my we're gently rolling.

00:36:28.980 --> 00:36:41.820 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: i'm good with someone who's bigger like rider or those guys are Jamie because call that one tighter hide hide hide your handles yeah i'm good with him because he's bigger and it's like Okay, this is a dynamic.

00:36:44.580 --> 00:36:53.520 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I know little guys like me scare you because i'm like little guys like you muscular i'm good with you because you're I make noises you do make noises inappropriate jokes like.

00:36:55.350 --> 00:37:05.490 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But you I like rolling with because you're a dynamic and I feel like you you're like oh yeah you're not you're just being dynamic and i'm dynamic, and this is like how it's going and everyone's cool with it.

00:37:05.940 --> 00:37:07.980 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I think it's hard when you're going from like.

00:37:08.730 --> 00:37:21.900 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: When there's someone like mashed with you or usually what would happen is I was matched with someone and they were usually a little bit better than I was like or a lot better than I was you are that way my microphone MIC is our way.

00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:30.810 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Jeremiah was like that you know I mean JEREMY awesome he's don't even remember my name got Jamie Come on, I love your show.

00:37:34.740 --> 00:37:46.470 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I don't know, I will say that, just a small amount that I wrote a henss I like that dynamic, because that was like the established thing like you're going to go there you're gonna go hard but it's not even.

00:37:47.640 --> 00:37:52.290 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: it's it's hard but it control yeah I don't feel like it's that much harder I think they're they.

00:37:52.560 --> 00:37:58.710 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: there's a lot more strategy like you get with some of the young new guys and they're they're kind of hard yeah I just don't work with them, but like.

00:37:59.130 --> 00:38:01.410 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know the guys that i've been training with their.

00:38:02.100 --> 00:38:08.730 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Their he doesn't matter their size, like some of them are smaller and me, and they just like totally crushed me but it's it's there.

00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:18.060 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: it's their technique yeah it's not they're not using strain, you know yeah you know what I The thing that has stuck with me from the one time, I went I think I told you, is like.

00:38:18.930 --> 00:38:27.810 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Man, I have to pay attention to under hooks like I was not okay oh yeah okay right i'm not gonna like then i'm on my bags.

00:38:29.790 --> 00:38:49.560 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Here again, so that was well once they do that to you like 1000 times, then you pay attention to yeah you're like I if I you know and there's one guy that's one feeling I had there's this one wrestler guy he's a little older, but like jack and clearly had been a wrestler and he was just.

00:38:50.670 --> 00:38:57.240 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Just a feeling of like out feeling his body like just put me down again and it's like oh yeah under wish I had fun.

00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.130 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah I don't know I would say that, like the my.

00:39:04.110 --> 00:39:12.150 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The physical I get a lot of joy and have teachers who are enrolling I actually want to get joy out of is that flow like that rolling flow.

00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:20.040 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I get a lot of joy tension with like fear against that I enjoy I enjoy sitting with.

00:39:22.200 --> 00:39:22.830 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: With.

00:39:24.930 --> 00:39:29.100 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Nana macho away, but like how am I going to measure up to these guys.

00:39:31.650 --> 00:39:37.380 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And it's been the biggest The biggest challenge for me has been that emotional like social aspect like.

00:39:37.680 --> 00:39:44.700 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I really it's very important to me that I don't come across like an asshole like I don't want to cause any pain I don't want to be an asshole to anyone.

00:39:45.330 --> 00:39:54.720 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So when I do things that are that I don't see that i'm being an asshole and i'm clearly getting feedback that people are upset with me it's been a real like.

00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:59.610 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: trying to figure out how to deal with that how to make amends, like.

00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.240 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Actually, the biggest thing that I think.

00:40:04.860 --> 00:40:06.210 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Some dojo taught me.

00:40:07.260 --> 00:40:15.120 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And even rolling with you in like an informal way is, in my mind this is something I struggle with all the time is like.

00:40:16.200 --> 00:40:22.290 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Is this right or wrong everything like is there an external right and an external wrong are there, rules that I don't know.

00:40:23.580 --> 00:40:27.840 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That i'm breaking and so often that to the.

00:40:30.270 --> 00:40:38.160 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: that's, to the detriment sort of I rely on that because I don't have a real good gauge of like how do I feel like How does it feel to do it.

00:40:38.970 --> 00:40:49.080 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So trying to realize like oh there's there yeah there are some unwritten rules but also like trust yourself trust, how you feel trust then being open to other people how they're responding you know.

00:40:50.100 --> 00:40:50.490 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like.

00:40:51.870 --> 00:40:55.260 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: When I Fuck up tim's arm he's like you fucking idiot.

00:40:59.490 --> 00:41:01.890 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Thinking so many like life and mo geez after that.

00:41:04.200 --> 00:41:11.670 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But that's been my journey I don't know but I mean I feel like for you, you don't have you kind of go into these situations, and it seems like you're pretty at ease like.

00:41:12.210 --> 00:41:22.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You don't have that much anxiety social anxiety about it you're friends with the guys yeah I mean I think a lot of that comes down to like growing up in the restaurant industry, yes, after like really checking.

00:41:23.820 --> 00:41:30.660 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And it's like you know, like a muscle, the more you do it like this yeah very good, so I have.

00:41:31.770 --> 00:41:45.000 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: A pretty decent ability, I think, to just like turn emotions off no not not stress everything that's happening like especially like when it happens yeah a little bit I just kind of put a little everything sleep on it reassess later.

00:41:46.110 --> 00:41:55.170 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah The other thing I was going to say about it, I think it really just depends on the culture of the place that you're in whether it's a martial art school yeah your workplace like wherever like.

00:41:55.680 --> 00:42:12.990 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: kind of whatever is being emphasized, there is like the value system, you know will dictate that so you'll go to other places where they would say to you haha he was not pulling hard enough yeah always have to be like a heel man and yeah come at me a heel man yeah.

00:42:14.100 --> 00:42:23.760 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Exactly um and, and so there you might, if you would be, on the other side of the spectrum yeah now not fulfilling you know, and then you got to deal with that emotional.

00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:30.090 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: contact, so you know it's all about like finding the spots that that you feel.

00:42:30.870 --> 00:42:38.550 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The most appropriate at home and and you know somebody like me, I can kind of do that anywhere, like, I was very comfortable as Joe and I liked.

00:42:39.450 --> 00:42:41.640 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, Professor Carol and I would talk about that.

00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:50.070 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That ability to oscillate between training partners like you said I work with you and then next i'm working with like a 50 year old woman that's like you know 95 pounds.

00:42:50.370 --> 00:43:01.710 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And then, like next I got TIM, and you know and just being able to be in that moment and adjusting each one which is it's not easy it's certainly not easy, is that it's a skill that like i'd say most don't have and.

00:43:02.340 --> 00:43:10.890 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You just have to work on it yeah really, really hard, something that I loved about the pandemic, though I mean it's terrible and like just I know that sounds terrible but like.

00:43:11.970 --> 00:43:28.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: that so many of my interactions like I started rolling with you on a personal non structured way in the year, based in the basement but, and then I started going up to burn man's at Indian larry's and that was yeah you had to matt feels.

00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:36.270 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah and that was also like so casual and like.

00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:46.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: They weren't friends, but it's like we're all equal now I bought with it's got Mitch he's a trainer, but I hope hats for him and he holds pads for me and it's like there's no exchange of money it's just like.

00:43:47.070 --> 00:43:53.040 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: we're just doing it if people and I love so much of my life has kind of become like these.

00:43:54.090 --> 00:44:02.220 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: there's no external structures to it and it's been so rich, you know you know birdman talked about it, that there was even a saturation.

00:44:02.700 --> 00:44:10.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know in jujitsu, and now it feels a lot more like it did in the early days yeah in the 90s when when things were just starting off and people just took a.

00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:18.150 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: There was a lot more like self accountability yeah and and more commitment, because, which is all during the pandemic was that.

00:44:18.690 --> 00:44:26.220 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know the only people that stuck with it with the people that were just like I am 100% of this like, for me it was like I couldn't imagine.

00:44:26.670 --> 00:44:36.150 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: life without it, and then, when it was like well, you could die, I was like well i'll take my chances, you know i'm going to die anyway so like i'd rather it was almost like i'd rather not live.

00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:41.730 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Without jujitsu sounds like I need to get my fucking life, every day, like.

00:44:42.510 --> 00:44:51.420 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I you know, no matter how, like all full on feeling if I get a session in i'm yeah i'm just alive again like no sleep, whatever it doesn't matter my broken toe.

00:44:52.080 --> 00:45:04.560 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: i'm like this on enjoying it, I have to say it's amazing all right, one more break we'll be right back everybody and pick back up with this and its implications into professional life, oh yeah yeah so hang tight we'll be right back.

00:45:05.640 --> 00:45:07.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: This all reminds me that I need.

00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:32.550 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: alrighty last set let's make it our best Okay, you know wrap this puppy up so for me training.

00:47:33.780 --> 00:47:41.400 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Even before the pandemic, particularly before i'm getting like that kind of framework, and you know concepts of commitment and you know.

00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:54.600 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: fortitude perseverance that like got me through some tough patches before but hundred percent got me through the pandemic in terms of you know, professional life, my my.

00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:56.790 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Business persona.

00:47:58.260 --> 00:47:58.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: um.

00:48:00.420 --> 00:48:14.130 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Can you comment to the same for you, as it has it helped you in some ways professionally um I think the biggest thing i've gotten from jujitsu.

00:48:15.600 --> 00:48:35.550 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Not just in on the mat but, and not just professionally but, personally, but all of these was Professor Carol talked about the jujitsu spiral that there's never an end there's just a move, and then another move and event another move out of that basically.

00:48:37.230 --> 00:48:55.320 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Not backing yourself as a matter of really not baton yourself into a corner it's seeing the opportunities from wherever you are, and obviously the pandemic has been tough for everyone and, for me, I mean What did it do to the writing scene.

00:48:56.370 --> 00:49:03.930 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Well, I was very lucky that I had already transitioned to doing mostly books, when the pandemic first hit.

00:49:04.680 --> 00:49:18.780 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: There were a lot of assignments, I had a lot of assignments because you're writing about the end of like this shutting down and this shutting down there like sex work going online or this restaurant closing or whatever so there's a lot of content about that pandemic itself.

00:49:20.100 --> 00:49:28.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: After a certain point, people got tired of hearing about like shut down sorry arable and then it's like well now what you, what are you going to write about but luckily I had.

00:49:29.640 --> 00:49:36.360 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: signed up enough book projects that I was finishing up those and that kind of like kept me busy through the year.

00:49:37.650 --> 00:49:44.340 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But the way that this idea of the jujitsu spiral I think works for me professionally is.

00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:56.550 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: On a Meta level in terms of broad shifts in my career path from restaurant critic to cookbook author children's book author, you know now doing all this other stuff it's like.

00:49:57.270 --> 00:50:07.560 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I know that whatever i'm doing in five years isn't going to look like what i'm doing now and that's fine with me, I have faith that I will find not going to be the next yeah the next month, but how it works.

00:50:08.730 --> 00:50:12.300 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: In a micro level is you know when you're writing.

00:50:13.380 --> 00:50:24.450 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: i'm a writer or i'm a Co author sometimes an author sometimes an editor but now mostly those two author co author and there are all of these roadblocks that are put up.

00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.900 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: roadblocks is not the right term these challenges, you face whether it's wasn't booby traps it's like well.

00:50:31.230 --> 00:50:44.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: and editor will say we don't like this, or a Co author will say, well, we don't like the structure or you'll be in a negotiation with an agent and there's a contract which doesn't work for you, and that is.

00:50:47.070 --> 00:50:55.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: that's like rolling and so, if you hold on to your position too long, or if you just you're grasping at it.

00:50:57.420 --> 00:51:12.330 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Then you back yourself into a corner and the idea of always like letting yourself work from where you are into a better position or a different position or maybe you're not going to get to the end position now, but maybe if you go.

00:51:13.680 --> 00:51:21.810 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, maybe, if you can just find some movement somewhere you'll you'll have faith it'll keep on rolling higher percentage of success yeah and I think like.

00:51:22.620 --> 00:51:40.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That has been I remember when Professor Carol said that or like expose us to this concept of the spiral, and I still have not really gained mastery of it in on the mat but i've gotten a lot better off than that yeah when you body slam somebody that's kind of.

00:51:41.910 --> 00:51:51.270 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I will say that it, so I don't know if you feel like you're very dynamic, you mentioned that answers here like don't accept like don't accept positions sub optimal positions.

00:51:52.470 --> 00:52:09.000 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I feel like one of my strengths and such Duka is like i'm pretty comfortable being uncomfortable in whether it's a good submission attempts, or like okay well i'm back in like this is where I am, this is not great, but it's not the end of the road.

00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:24.120 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And that that's by far the biggest thing i've gotten out of jujitsu next that's great I It reminds me of Are you familiar with Simon centric business personality like keynote speaker major everything.

00:52:25.290 --> 00:52:37.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: he's got this whole thing on the infinite game yeah in terms of business, he did a lot of stuff with the military, a lot of writing with the military yeah um, and so we some like he's got another book called leaders eat last.

00:52:37.860 --> 00:52:40.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: yeah hanging would like a battalion or whatever and.

00:52:41.100 --> 00:52:51.270 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: was kind of blown away by the fact that, like the higher ranks were always the last to eat oh yeah all the little ranked a person, but this idea of the infinite game it's like.

00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:59.250 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: there's two ways to approach it as like a finite version where like the when there's like you win or you lose you just kind of like some zero.

00:52:59.670 --> 00:53:07.410 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Where the infinite game is just like businesses commerce always happening that's happening, since the beginning of human history yeah and.

00:53:07.830 --> 00:53:17.310 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: exchange for herself but it's not going anywhere, so you can either stay in it somehow yeah like doesn't matter like you have to kind of adjust your your.

00:53:17.700 --> 00:53:23.310 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: gauge, for what you consider success at times it's like take a pandemic present yeah nobody saw that coming we'd like.

00:53:23.730 --> 00:53:28.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You saw a lot of people extract themselves out and they won't go back you know this is too much.

00:53:28.470 --> 00:53:37.890 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Or you can just like adjust like you're talking, you know and just find a vantage point like increase your odds, even if it's just a little bit it's never like I won.

00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:49.080 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know there's no submission and like they tap thing you know it's just endless role yeah it's just the spiral you're always in it and and I kind of learned to up to around the same time yeah.

00:53:50.850 --> 00:53:56.550 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But I think like when it comes to like professional life in business, the way that I.

00:53:57.810 --> 00:54:01.350 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The way that I have internalized The spiral is like.

00:54:03.270 --> 00:54:10.560 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I don't grasp I try not to grasp on to like the these identities of what I want to want to be or want to become more.

00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:28.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And kind of let and who knows, like I envy I envied a little bit less now that i'm like actually making a living doing this, but I envied people who like just work their way up the sorry the masthead you know, like they had their path can be called show.

00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:30.300 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: host.

00:54:33.570 --> 00:54:39.450 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And where it's like I look back at my narrative and like it doesn't make any sense and i'm coming to terms.

00:54:39.900 --> 00:54:49.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: that's Okay, I think that's great I mean I say way and I like I actually valued that when when people are like you know I get interviewed and they're like how did you end up in this position i'm like like.

00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:59.340 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I feel like there's a for me there's a trade off in the sense that, like i'm maybe not as well established as I would like to be in my individual fields.

00:54:59.790 --> 00:55:07.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But like again going back to like the right and wrong thing externally it's like those are external measures, how do I feel about where I am.

00:55:07.650 --> 00:55:15.090 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I find when I let go of those external things, and this is of course trite and, like everyone knows, but when I let go of those external things and check in with myself.

00:55:15.450 --> 00:55:25.500 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like i'm pretty happy with what I get to do you know yeah every day that's great that's a great way to end great way to end the show the week.

00:55:26.310 --> 00:55:43.770 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: start new month all this fancy fancy stuff um if people want to check out your stuff learn more about you where's the best place but can't joshua David Stein calm, or just Google me that's why I have three names I can be Google he's like just Google me he's looking conference.

00:55:45.660 --> 00:55:48.960 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The first thing is going to be an article about a guy getting bodies.

00:55:50.640 --> 00:55:53.670 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: By foot like freelance journalists motherfucker.

00:55:55.830 --> 00:56:08.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Back problems for you right don't worry i'll get him back well Thank you so much, thank you Jerry i'm awesome i'm invited him on the show several times, he finally took me up on it that's how famous he is and feel so printed version of inviting but yo yo.

00:56:12.300 --> 00:56:13.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: he's like Oh, we trading and i'm like no.

00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:24.150 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Well i'm glad we finally got it together and hopefully we get to do it again, sometimes, yes, so you know PURA corolla.

00:56:25.650 --> 00:56:41.130 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Never gonna forget this one, but remember this shows you know this part of the and share mail saku stop reading my ball never yeah never can't do it all right, everybody have a great weekend we'll see you next week, please.

00:56:42.930 --> 00:56:43.290 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Great.

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