Rediscovering New York

Tuesday, March 23, 2021
Facebook Live Video from 2021/03/23 - NYC Women at the Forefront, Past & Present

Facebook Live Video from 2021/03/23 - NYC Women at the Forefront, Past & Present


2021/03/23 - NYC Women at the Forefront, Past & Present

[NEW EPISODE] NYC Women at the Forefront, Past & Present

On This Week’s show we will celebrate Women’s History Month by looking at some remarkable New York women you may not have heard of who’ve made great contributions through their work, and achievements. My guests will be returning Rediscovering New York expert Joyce Gold, Founder of Joyce Gold History Tours; Wendy Hilliard, the first African American rhythmic gymnast to compete on a U.S. national team and founder of the Wendy Hilliard Gymnastics Foundation; &Alexis Page, former US National Rhythmic Gymnast and Head Coach at the Foundation.

Tune in for this fascinating conversation at or watch the Facebook Livestream by clicking here.

Show Notes

Segment 1

On tonight’s show, we’re celebrating women’s history month with an important woman from our past as well as The present. Our first Guest is Joyce Gold History. She's been doing tours for 40 years, and on her tour, she discusses famous women like Elizabeth Irwin, She was an educator at the beginning of the 20th century. She had different ideas about teaching. On the way to go about it. She wanted to let the children experience what they were learning about by letting them go on the field trips instead of lecturing them. They Ended up firing her. She lost her job but she got offered a church to use a classroom because some people really loved the way she taught children. Henrietta Rodman was another woman who impacted our education system. Henrietta was a member Liberal club in the emergency park and they did not allow African-Americans to join; she was against it and ended up leaving the club because of it. If you want to find out more about Joyce this is toward you can go to Joyce gold or you can check her out on Instagram at Joyce gold history tours.

Segment 2

Because of the pandemic Joyce is now doing private tours. She’s designing some new tours for Rose Hill, The Hudson square, and many more. Maple Dodge She had a salon where once a week she would choose a topic like Margaret Sanger,Contraception Labor movement. She wanted to create a space where nothing was off-limits and women didn’t have to feel restricted about their conversations. Ida Tarbell was a woman from western Pennsylvania who had traveled to Paris, a very sophisticated woman. Her father ended up going into business with Rockefeller but, shortly after became bankrupt. Ida is responsible for pulling back the curtain on big business and really bringing to light the monopoly of it and how it works.

Segment 3

Our next guests are Wendy Hilliard Wendy is a gymnastics Hall of Fame member. She was the first African-American woman To represent the US rhythmic gymnastics and coached a 1996 Olympian And was the first black president of the women’s Sports foundation. In 1996 she founded The Windee Hillford gymnastics foundation. Which provides free low cost Gymnastics for 55,000 Youth in New York City. Alongside Wendy is Alexis Page, and she was raised in Harlem in 2003 she joined The Hilliard gymnastics foundation. 2009 Fifth on the rhythmic gymnastics Junior National team.From there she’s completed all over the world.Wendy got inspired at 12 years old by watching gymnastics on television that’s where it all started. Alexis just started doing flips and kind of acrobatics at home and it just went from there.

Segment 4

Alexis Found a great opportunity through Wendy’s program and now she is Head Coach there. They have a program where they started doing it 18 months ago. Introduction to gymnastics. Rhythmic gymnastics opens the door for you young people to learn about music and how to take care of their bodies and it’s something that can help you in all different aspects. This organization really has come full circle with Alex and opened the doors for so many kids.


00:00:39.810 --> 00:00:41.100 Jeff Goodman: Hello everyone.

00:00:42.330 --> 00:00:49.050 Jeff Goodman: Welcome to our listeners in the big apple from across the US around the world i'm Jeff Goodman, and this is rediscovering New York.

00:00:49.680 --> 00:00:54.990 Jeff Goodman: professionally i'm a real estate broker with brown Harris Stevens, but our show is not about real estate.

00:00:55.530 --> 00:01:10.230 Jeff Goodman: rediscovering New York as a weekly program about the history texture and vibe of our amazing city, and we do it through interviews with historians local business owners nonprofit organizations preservationists musicians and artists and the occasional elected official.

00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:19.440 Jeff Goodman: On some shows you know we focus on an individual New York neighborhood we explore its history and its current energy what makes that particular New York neighborhood special.

00:01:20.220 --> 00:01:26.640 Jeff Goodman: On some shows like tonight's we host and interesting and vital color the city that's not focused on one particular neighborhood.

00:01:27.450 --> 00:01:36.540 Jeff Goodman: i'm prior episodes you've heard us cover topics as diverse and illuminating as American presidents who came from lived in war, who had some interesting history here in New York.

00:01:37.080 --> 00:01:43.050 Jeff Goodman: we've talked about women activists and the women's suffrage movement in the city it's going to be a subject of tonight, a little different, though.

00:01:43.650 --> 00:01:47.910 Jeff Goodman: we've looked at the history of different immigrant communities, including people who were brought here and slaved.

00:01:48.390 --> 00:01:51.870 Jeff Goodman: we've looked at the history of the city's LGBT community, the gay rights movement.

00:01:52.650 --> 00:01:59.940 Jeff Goodman: we've looked at bicycles and cycling they've been part of New York for 200 years and we've also looked at the history of punk and opera.

00:02:00.600 --> 00:02:08.880 Jeff Goodman: you've looked at our library systems, the subway public art or greatest train stations and even some of our bridges, yes, New York has great bridges, among other great things.

00:02:09.480 --> 00:02:17.880 Jeff Goodman: After the broadcast each show is available on podcasts you can hear us on apple spotify Amazon podcast stitcher and Google podcasts.

00:02:18.870 --> 00:02:22.470 Jeff Goodman: Tonight we're celebrating women's history month it's the third year in a row that we're doing it.

00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:28.920 Jeff Goodman: And, unlike in prior years where we focused on women who might have been well known.

00:02:29.310 --> 00:02:38.490 Jeff Goodman: I thought it would be interesting on this show to focus on some women both past and present who most of us have not heard of but whose work.

00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:49.710 Jeff Goodman: and whose ability to impact others is no less profound in the city and in the world, our first guest is no stranger to rediscovering New York it's Joyce gold of choice cold history tours.

00:02:50.490 --> 00:03:00.030 Jeff Goodman: Choices a recognized expert and educator in New York, history and for over 40 years she has been the guiding new Yorkers excuse me she's been guiding new Yorkers and visitors a light to rave reviews.

00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:04.050 Jeff Goodman: Choices private walking towards as well as towards that are open to the public.

00:03:04.830 --> 00:03:11.040 Jeff Goodman: Choices published two books, one of them is from windmills to the World Trade Center a walking guide through the history of lower Manhattan.

00:03:11.430 --> 00:03:16.050 Jeff Goodman: And another one from chat stream to Bohemia a walking guide through the history of Greenwich village.

00:03:16.650 --> 00:03:27.390 Jeff Goodman: Choices contributed entries to the encyclopedia of New York City and if all of this wasn't enough I keep saying it every time she comes on the New York Times is called Joyce the doyen of New York City tour guides.

00:03:27.810 --> 00:03:37.500 Jeff Goodman: level of acknowledgement and recognition that any tour guide would relish and maybe even kill for and choice a hearty welcome back to rediscovering in New York.

00:03:37.920 --> 00:03:39.570 Joyce Gold: Thanks Jeff it's great to be here.

00:03:40.290 --> 00:03:46.980 Jeff Goodman: How did you get involved in the work you do bringing new york's history to life for the people lucky enough who can go on your tours.

00:03:47.640 --> 00:03:57.000 Joyce Gold: Well, man happy history, probably changed my life, because in the mid 70s, I was working as a computer analyst at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

00:03:57.510 --> 00:04:09.660 Joyce Gold: It wasn't really me and the walk from the subway to my office wasn't very exciting one day I picked up 100 year old guidebook to New York about New York 100 years before that.

00:04:10.110 --> 00:04:20.280 Joyce Gold: And suddenly broadway I could see the Indians, I could see the Dutch I could see the British and every daily walk began to be much more interesting.

00:04:20.790 --> 00:04:31.890 Joyce Gold: So I felt bad that a lot of other new Yorkers didn't see any of this and I began telling them in the mid 70s, not that many new Yorkers knew about our history, it seems, and so.

00:04:32.340 --> 00:04:45.180 Joyce Gold: It started open opening things up for them now, of course, my clients are from all over, but I designed tourists mostly on the level for the people who live in the neighborhoods that I am talking about.

00:04:45.960 --> 00:04:52.170 Jeff Goodman: I have to think that you've impacted thousands of people join us, I mean you've been doing this for 45 years now 44 years.

00:04:52.920 --> 00:05:02.160 Joyce Gold: So when I walk around town with a group somebody will often stop us and say Oh, I took your tour and nice things which I love to hear.

00:05:02.670 --> 00:05:07.890 Jeff Goodman: On one tour that we did together, just as an aside, it was we were doing the tour of chinatown in little Italy.

00:05:08.310 --> 00:05:17.640 Jeff Goodman: And we were you across you hit cross canal street before the group I was with and I had the speaker that you were bluetooth thing, and you were talking and someone turned around and said that's Joyce gold.

00:05:18.270 --> 00:05:31.110 Jeff Goodman: that's your your fame proceeds here we devoting this portion of the program to looking at New York women from the past, who made a big impact on the city in the world around them, the second half we're going to.

00:05:31.710 --> 00:05:34.740 Jeff Goodman: speak with two women who've made a big impact now, and recently.

00:05:35.370 --> 00:05:43.200 Jeff Goodman: i'm one of the tours that you give joyce's called the immigrant radical and dettori us women of Washington square full disclosure i've been on that tour as well.

00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:52.680 Jeff Goodman: I looked up the word notorious it means it, it means famous or well known, but typically for some bad quality or D it's this thing from famous.

00:05:53.310 --> 00:06:05.130 Jeff Goodman: Personally I love the term many people would prefer to think of these trailblazers who accomplished so much in a society that in so many ways, was dominated by men is famous but you pick the word notorious, why did you pick the word notorious.

00:06:05.280 --> 00:06:13.410 Joyce Gold: Well, I think some people from out of the village might have used it as a put down term, but I think that a lot of the women in the village.

00:06:14.250 --> 00:06:23.040 Joyce Gold: In Greenwich village just took it as a badge of honor that they did something that other people wouldn't do they were outside the norm, they had original thoughts.

00:06:23.460 --> 00:06:34.350 Joyce Gold: And so I love to put that in the title of one of maybe 35 different tours I do just an image village, the women's tour is one of my favorites.

00:06:35.490 --> 00:06:45.420 Jeff Goodman: um before the show you sent me a list of 27 extraordinary women that the 22 minutes or so that we have for this segment there's no way to speak about all of them.

00:06:46.290 --> 00:06:57.870 Jeff Goodman: So I thought we'd focus on some of the women who most of our listeners won't recognize I didn't recognize a lot of them when you sent me the list so I was intrigued by the names I didn't recognize and so we're going to talk about.

00:06:58.980 --> 00:07:08.760 Jeff Goodman: Some of the some of those women let's start with an educator Elizabeth irwin not the least, because actually I didn't learn about her but that's because we shot a video last week.

00:07:09.630 --> 00:07:16.500 Jeff Goodman: Hudson Square and you talk about Elizabeth irwin and I had not heard of her before, who was Elizabeth or when What did she do in the city.

00:07:16.860 --> 00:07:27.030 Joyce Gold: Well, she was an educator and, at the beginning of the 20th century, she and a few other people have ideas about how to teach that was very different from the standard teaching.

00:07:27.450 --> 00:07:36.960 Joyce Gold: She had a job with the school system, and she she worked at PS 61 but she had a feeling that you don't lecture to children.

00:07:37.020 --> 00:07:38.550 Joyce Gold: You give them field trips you.

00:07:38.550 --> 00:07:51.210 Joyce Gold: have them do things and you teach to that particular child, how do you know who the particular child is well, maybe you give them about array of tasks and then know what they they do.

00:07:51.720 --> 00:08:01.830 Joyce Gold: And she was really put down by the school system, I love the quotes they said parents want their seven year olds, to be able to read the names on a list.

00:08:02.130 --> 00:08:09.780 Joyce Gold: When they sent them to the store to get the correct change and count them and to read the names on street signs, this was not how she taught.

00:08:10.260 --> 00:08:31.230 Joyce Gold: And they find her, but she had some parents who love that kind of do it and learn it that way, teaching and so she the Presbyterian organization offered her a church to use for classrooms and that's how the children learned, it was very exciting.

00:08:33.330 --> 00:08:45.330 Joyce Gold: it's called little red schoolhouse it's in Greenwich village and there is now a high school that is appropriately called it's on charlton street it's appropriately called Elizabeth r1 for her.

00:08:46.170 --> 00:08:57.240 Jeff Goodman: Well, speaking of educators someone else who actually had a profound impact was henrietta rodman she challenged the notion that women who were school teachers had to be unmarried.

00:08:58.020 --> 00:09:04.320 Jeff Goodman: You know I don't want to use the S word here, you know the whole spinster, but that was also sadly part of the you know the whole.

00:09:06.210 --> 00:09:13.110 Jeff Goodman: prejudice of the era, do you want to talk about rodman and how she changed how when we're able to be in education.

00:09:13.860 --> 00:09:25.830 Joyce Gold: Yes, one thing I love about talking about the women, especially the political activists of Greenwich village is some of them chose a part of equality that appeals to them now Elizabeth.

00:09:26.490 --> 00:09:36.660 Joyce Gold: henrietta rodman was a member of the Liberal Club in Gramsci park and they did not allow African American members which he did not like and.

00:09:36.990 --> 00:09:46.200 Joyce Gold: She had some African American friends, they wouldn't admit into the club and so she left gramercy park open the liberal club.

00:09:46.530 --> 00:09:59.310 Joyce Gold: In Greenwich village and, of course, as you said, women who were married didn't even have to be pregnant, but if they were married, since they got married and taught in the public school system they were fired.

00:09:59.700 --> 00:10:16.290 Joyce Gold: Presumably, because maybe someday they would become pregnant and that would be too shocking for the children, men of course we're not fired for any of these reasons, so that was one of her big big topics that women should not be fired for being married.

00:10:17.580 --> 00:10:28.170 Jeff Goodman: Speaking of political clubs another woman on our list Marie Jenny how started a club called heterodoxy do you want to talk about and reach any how and what she.

00:10:28.170 --> 00:10:35.850 Joyce Gold: Did it was a wonderful idea and I serve and trying to get some women to start such a club these days.

00:10:36.570 --> 00:10:49.350 Joyce Gold: Her husband, by the way, ran Ellis Island for a number of years, but she started heterodoxy in 1912 and it was called a unique luncheon club for unorthodox women.

00:10:49.980 --> 00:10:54.750 Joyce Gold: They met from 1912 until the early years of World War Two.

00:10:55.320 --> 00:11:06.450 Joyce Gold: They met every other week, except in the summer, and it was for women, and most of them had made their own money they were journalists, they were teachers, they were activists, they were in politics.

00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:19.170 Joyce Gold: And they had wildly divergent views, some of them are ardent Republicans or democrats or Liberals or communists, some of them became communists later and.

00:11:20.460 --> 00:11:28.980 Joyce Gold: Then loved arguing they love discussing all of these different ideas they wouldn't allow reporters to cover them so it's a little unclear.

00:11:29.280 --> 00:11:37.590 Joyce Gold: What all they covered Agnes de Mille actually the choreographer was the youngest Member because her mother was a Member of this but.

00:11:38.040 --> 00:11:50.850 Joyce Gold: in their personal lives they were gay they were straight, they were into free love, they were married they were unmarried some of them were in long term lesbian relationships and they just love discussing everything.

00:11:51.300 --> 00:12:04.410 Joyce Gold: Interestingly enough, with all of this variety, there was only one topic that almost split the club, and that was whether or not the new as should be involved in World War one.

00:12:05.190 --> 00:12:22.110 Joyce Gold: But other than that they love to disagree, I think of the view on TV as a slightly a watered down version of heterodoxy, but I think it takes brave women to want to want to engage other women in different points of view.

00:12:23.280 --> 00:12:34.200 Jeff Goodman: Some of the women were talking about we're from New York originally and some of them moved here from other places eclair was from South Carolina who was she and what was she known for.

00:12:34.260 --> 00:12:34.860 Joyce Gold: How to Claire.

00:12:35.190 --> 00:12:42.930 Joyce Gold: Yes, well her name was magical hand and she came from South Carolina before the civil war her family had money.

00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:52.800 Joyce Gold: And they lost it during the war, she liked to hang out with creative people one of her places in the village that she frequented was a literal.

00:12:53.100 --> 00:13:06.060 Joyce Gold: Lee underground bar was just under broadway at bleecker street called facts other people who hung out there in the 1850s where Walt Whitman and Horace greeley and.

00:13:06.930 --> 00:13:13.170 Joyce Gold: And she enjoyed their company and they enjoy it hurts, but in the civil war per family lost their money.

00:13:13.530 --> 00:13:23.550 Joyce Gold: And there was really not many things that a woman could legally do at that time, and she went to the stage and she became an actress So although before.

00:13:23.910 --> 00:13:35.850 Joyce Gold: The civil war her name was mcelhaney she took on what I think is a wonderful stage name for a southern belle adda Claire that was her name otter player.

00:13:36.570 --> 00:13:37.020 Jeff Goodman: And she.

00:13:37.500 --> 00:13:39.510 Jeff Goodman: She was also known as the Queen of Bohemia.

00:13:39.780 --> 00:13:40.890 Joyce Gold: I yes yeah.

00:13:40.890 --> 00:13:42.870 Jeff Goodman: Bohemian the check in Czechoslovakia.

00:13:43.170 --> 00:13:44.310 Jeff Goodman: Those different kind of olivia.

00:13:44.940 --> 00:13:56.340 Joyce Gold: that's right as my Bo em um yes, are they said, well, what is it to be Bohemian she said, it means i'm not a victim of feeling or good taste.

00:13:56.910 --> 00:14:05.040 Joyce Gold: And she tried to do things that were out of the norm, she had a very flagrant affair, with the composer Louis morrow God shock.

00:14:05.820 --> 00:14:21.930 Joyce Gold: She checked into a hotel in Paris and signed the register miss Claire and son and that's what you did, and this was all very newsworthy people love to hear about the out of the way places and and it was kind of fun for people.

00:14:23.580 --> 00:14:34.560 Jeff Goodman: Well, well we're going to take a short break and when we come back we're going to continue our celebration on rediscovering New York of women's history month with my first guest Joyce cold of choice cold history towards will be back in a moment.

00:14:34.980 --> 00:14:35.490 Joyce Gold: Okay.

00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:36.090 Jeff Goodman: we're back and you're back to rediscovering New York in our special episode celebrating women's history month.

00:17:36.510 --> 00:17:45.720 Jeff Goodman: We it's called women, women at the forefront, we are looking at women who have made and are making really big impacts, but who may not be on the tip of everyone's tongue.

00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:54.450 Jeff Goodman: My first guest is Joyce gold of Joyce called history tours you can find out about choices towards a choice called history tours COM.

00:17:55.020 --> 00:18:10.590 Jeff Goodman: Joyce also has an instagram account and the name of that destroys called history tours choice, are in as we sort of start coming out of the the confines of the pandemic but but not quite yet what are some of the offerings that you're providing now to to your your clients.

00:18:11.100 --> 00:18:13.800 Joyce Gold: Well i've been doing the number of private tours.

00:18:15.300 --> 00:18:25.830 Joyce Gold: people's having birthdays I think i've done three tours for people with birthdays i'm doing one next week for an 80 year old mother with 12 members of the family coming along.

00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:37.470 Joyce Gold: i'm designing new tours rose hill area basically around Madison square is one the one Far West 70s, is one.

00:18:38.370 --> 00:18:48.900 Joyce Gold: The Hudson square that we refer to as another one, and I think i'm going to be, I hope to be offering just show up kinds of tours.

00:18:49.320 --> 00:19:08.370 Joyce Gold: In the summer beginning may 30 weekend I think unless there's some resurgent and people stop wearing masks, then I might not be able to do that, but basically it's very safe or outdoors people are not that crowded together everybody wears a mask and that's what's been happening.

00:19:08.790 --> 00:19:13.440 Jeff Goodman: And let's not forget that latest addition in brooklyn the great neighborhood for green.

00:19:13.530 --> 00:19:14.640 Jeff Goodman: Oh, like empowered to.

00:19:15.210 --> 00:19:17.040 Joyce Gold: Do that your inspiration.

00:19:17.550 --> 00:19:18.630 Jeff Goodman: Oh viewers choice.

00:19:19.950 --> 00:19:31.890 Jeff Goodman: moving back to some maybe not so famous New York women but who had a big impact on the world around them, and on the rest of us let's move to the world of art, who was maple dodge lewin.

00:19:32.490 --> 00:19:39.660 Joyce Gold: Well, I have mabel dodge as well, maybe as as the teacher that I was discussing.

00:19:40.650 --> 00:19:49.050 Joyce Gold: As women who do kind of traditional women things women didn't tend to be doctors, but they did tend to be teachers and.

00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:59.820 Joyce Gold: People who threw parties and got people together and that was mabel dodge she came from buffalo moved to Paris with her husband became a very good friend of.

00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:10.890 Joyce Gold: Gertrude Stein and helped make people aware of Gertrude Stein and her writing, but when she came back to New York she didn't really want to want to be in this country.

00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:22.170 Joyce Gold: But she was convinced to once a week have a salon where by she would choose a topic she called it a living topic things that people were talking about anyway.

00:20:22.530 --> 00:20:36.630 Joyce Gold: And people who had never spoken about certain topics in public spoke at the maple dodge salon grill talked about Friday aneurysm Margaret sanger talked about contraception.

00:20:38.010 --> 00:20:45.960 Joyce Gold: Big bill haywood talked about the Labor movement after the triangle shirtwaist factory fire of 1911 in the village.

00:20:46.470 --> 00:20:57.690 Joyce Gold: And people john sloan talked about a new kind of painting, it was very exciting and if people were interested in a certain topic, then they would go to her salon at nine street so she.

00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:07.800 Joyce Gold: wasn't a writer she wasn't a big thinker, but she was very good at getting people together and illuminating topics that hadn't been discussed.

00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:17.640 Joyce Gold: This had a very big effect on the village, because the idea of these sometimes sexual topics being discussed in a fifth avenue brownstone.

00:21:17.910 --> 00:21:28.500 Joyce Gold: seem very newsworthy and it may papers all over the United States and really put the village on the map as a place of original ideas and no.

00:21:28.800 --> 00:21:46.950 Joyce Gold: notoriety so many an artist elsewhere in the country read about it and said I belong in Greenwich village I don't belong, where I am so she had a lot of effects and after she leaves Greenwich village she goes to his house and help start the art colony in TAOs new Mexico as well.

00:21:47.910 --> 00:21:51.150 Jeff Goodman: let's move to journalism, who was it tarbell.

00:21:51.960 --> 00:22:03.090 Joyce Gold: I know tarbell was a woman who had from my Western Pennsylvania, who had been in Paris very sophisticated educated woman her father was an oilman.

00:22:03.660 --> 00:22:14.130 Joyce Gold: And he was one of the people that john D Rockefeller approached with a very simple choice join me or I will put you out of business and Rockefeller bankrupt her father.

00:22:14.430 --> 00:22:26.340 Joyce Gold: So what she did was analyzed all the machinations that he had been involved with to become such a major major company of standard oil in.

00:22:28.860 --> 00:22:38.070 Joyce Gold: And a new, you know, in the chorus magazine, and it for into huge volumes she showed America how big business got that way.

00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:52.860 Joyce Gold: Before that they had no idea how the trust's, as they call them work the monopolies worked and after tarbell wrote her pieces, a lot of Americans, including Teddy Roosevelt didn't have the stomach for these big.

00:22:53.520 --> 00:23:01.500 Joyce Gold: Companies excited it's a place with it's a subject and a topic that is very current today, to say the least.

00:23:01.620 --> 00:23:15.540 Jeff Goodman: um well let's stay on the topic of journalist, but but move forward by a couple of decades Dorothy Thompson she has the distinction of being the first foreign journalists who was expelled from Nazi Germany.

00:23:16.620 --> 00:23:21.630 Jeff Goodman: But after she came back to New York she also did some great things, who is she and what did you what was she known for.

00:23:22.080 --> 00:23:28.680 Joyce Gold: Well, she was a great journalist, she was one of the people, the foreign correspondence in Europe in the late third in the 30s.

00:23:29.100 --> 00:23:41.310 Joyce Gold: Who could see the totalitarianism that was coming to that continent and to the world and warn people about it, which is why she had the enormous honor of being thrown out by hiller.

00:23:41.730 --> 00:23:50.730 Joyce Gold: He was married to Sinclair Lewis, they lived in the village north of Washington Square and she was a reporter so she had a very big influence.

00:23:52.050 --> 00:24:09.600 Joyce Gold: He wrote mainstreet babbitt and aerosmith but she was shot at at the Bulgarian uprising in 1923 and had a very colorful career she had a lot of affairs affairs with men affairs with women, you know the boundaries were to set for her.

00:24:10.380 --> 00:24:20.400 Jeff Goodman: Well, in 1939 she was on a cover of Time Magazine and I love this this this this quote she was it was a picture of her speaking into an NBC radio microphone.

00:24:20.820 --> 00:24:29.610 Jeff Goodman: And the picture was caption she rides in the smoking car and and declared that she and Eleanor Roosevelt are undoubtedly the most influential women in the United States.

00:24:30.810 --> 00:24:34.740 Joyce Gold: And of course Eleanor Roosevelt also lived in Greenwich village in the 1940s.

00:24:35.370 --> 00:24:36.660 Jeff Goodman: But did she write in the smoking car.

00:24:38.580 --> 00:24:43.200 Joyce Gold: She took a gun on her trip around the country in a car with our good friend.

00:24:43.650 --> 00:24:44.340 Jeff Goodman: Oh wow.

00:24:44.970 --> 00:24:46.110 Joyce Gold: yeah I love that image.

00:24:46.320 --> 00:24:52.020 Jeff Goodman: that's we'll have to see that for a topic for another show who was Susan keating glass spell.

00:24:52.770 --> 00:25:00.030 Joyce Gold: Susan glass bell she came from iowa came to New York wrote stories wrote plays.

00:25:01.470 --> 00:25:10.590 Joyce Gold: And she she in some other New York writers go to provincetown Massachusetts during the teens and as many New York.

00:25:10.620 --> 00:25:12.750 Jeff Goodman: city's from a century ago, not the teens from.

00:25:12.780 --> 00:25:13.290 Jeff Goodman: A couple of years.

00:25:14.730 --> 00:25:24.510 Joyce Gold: And, like many new Yorkers was complaining about the broadway theater they said it doesn't ask anything of people it's very stodgy it's really just a lot of words, with song.

00:25:24.780 --> 00:25:34.860 Joyce Gold: stringing songs together and they decided to put on plays that didn't have to be making money and they didn't improv and taps provincetown.

00:25:35.130 --> 00:25:44.190 Joyce Gold: And then they came to macdougal street in Greenwich village and started the provincetown playhouse to put on plays with literary merit.

00:25:45.120 --> 00:25:54.510 Joyce Gold: They put on eugene o'neill's bound East well boundaries for Cardiff was the first place, he ever had produced, and that was that they put on in Massachusetts.

00:25:54.870 --> 00:26:03.510 Joyce Gold: But in on macdougal street they put on Emperor Jones and the good news was that it was a big success the bad news was that.

00:26:04.020 --> 00:26:10.020 Joyce Gold: It needed a much bigger it got a much bigger audience that could be accommodated at the provincetown playhouse.

00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:27.690 Joyce Gold: But it had a very big effect on the rest of the country as a number of Greenwich village ideas did no self respecting American city could not have plays with literary merit and, of course, as we know, the theater around the United States is very, very high level.

00:26:28.800 --> 00:26:40.140 Jeff Goodman: Well, speaking of groundbreaking theater and ground breaking playwriting Lorraine hansberry was from New York and she sadly did not live very long, who was she and what what impact did she have.

00:26:40.770 --> 00:26:48.120 Joyce Gold: Well, she was a woman who came from Chicago and came to New York and wrote raisin in the sun.

00:26:49.380 --> 00:27:01.770 Joyce Gold: Family in turmoil turmoil who sought to escape the slums of Chicago this was the first play ever produced on broadway written by an African American woman.

00:27:02.280 --> 00:27:14.010 Joyce Gold: There were some black written plays like shuffle along in the 1920s on broadway but she was the first woman to put on a play she also.

00:27:15.060 --> 00:27:29.820 Joyce Gold: mounted sign in Sydney boosting his window she wrote to be young gifted and black she died 1965 she was 35 years old, and there is now a plaque on her home in the village.

00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:46.950 Jeff Goodman: Joyce we're going to be at a time in a minute or two like so often happens, we could go on for hours, I want to end with someone who most people have not heard of Maybe she was acting maybe about 100 years ago and that was Clara limbless who what she What did she do.

00:27:47.310 --> 00:27:54.960 Joyce Gold: What color level like was an immigrant woman who worked in the garment factories and in 19 8019 the.

00:27:55.740 --> 00:28:09.900 Joyce Gold: police beat up people because they were very much on the side of management and she had ribs broken that was terrible so in 1909 at Cooper union, there was a big Union meeting Labor meeting and what should they do about.

00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:24.090 Joyce Gold: The terrible terrible situation in the factories got Samuel gompers said, this is not a good time to go on strike, but lemme got up and said, I think we should we must go on strike now.

00:28:24.570 --> 00:28:45.900 Joyce Gold: her presentation, which was a Yiddish in the audience was translated into Italian into English and in 1909 the first woman lead garment strike in the country first woman let's strike in the country started it was called the uprising of the 20,000 and she was very much a part of that.

00:28:46.830 --> 00:28:49.560 Jeff Goodman: When did the international ED garment workers Union.

00:28:50.610 --> 00:28:51.450 Jeff Goodman: found one which.

00:28:52.020 --> 00:28:56.580 Joyce Gold: was founded in 1900 so it was 11 years old, by this time, but they were.

00:28:56.850 --> 00:29:02.100 Joyce Gold: Very nine years old, they were very under finance they didn't get many.

00:29:03.510 --> 00:29:19.980 Joyce Gold: Improvements from the uprising in 1909 have they done done that they might have not had the horrible triangle shirtwaist factory fire, two years later, where 146 people died in Greenwich village.

00:29:21.600 --> 00:29:31.020 Jeff Goodman: Well Joyce Thank you so much, there are a number of great women that we were not able to get to even on the list the call down list.

00:29:31.320 --> 00:29:44.100 Jeff Goodman: But I want to encourage any of my listeners to all my listeners to think about choices tour the radical immigrant notorious women of Greenwich village i've been on it and it's a great great tour.

00:29:44.310 --> 00:29:53.670 Joyce Gold: Thank you Jeff if people want to email me Joyce at Joyce called history tour is I will send them the schedule, as soon as it comes out great.

00:29:54.450 --> 00:30:09.180 Jeff Goodman: Well, thank you Joyce we're going to take a quick break and when we come back we're going to speak with two women who are not so much historical but their work is actually ongoing and they're impacting people today many people today in fact we'll be back in a moment.

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00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:17.370 Jeff Goodman: Our next two guests first is Wendy hillier Wendy is a USA gymnastics hall of fame Member she was the first African American woman to represent the US and rhythmic gymnastics.

00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:26.880 Jeff Goodman: And coach to 1996 Olympian and was the first black president of the women's sports foundation Wendy was an Olympic sports caster and broadway performer.

00:34:27.390 --> 00:34:42.630 Jeff Goodman: She also was the director of sports for the New York City 2012 Olympics and Paralympics been in 1996 she founded the Wendy heal your gymnastics foundation which has provided free and low cost gymnastics for nearly 25,000 urban youth in New York City.

00:34:43.740 --> 00:34:53.910 Jeff Goodman: And alongside Wendy is Alexis page Alexis was born in the bronx and raised in Harlem in 2003 she joined the windy hill your gymnastics foundation and after competing there for three years.

00:34:54.540 --> 00:35:01.170 Jeff Goodman: In 2009 pages competitive carrier skyrocketed when she placed fifth on the rhythmic gymnastics junior national team.

00:35:01.890 --> 00:35:10.950 Jeff Goodman: From there she went on to compete internationally in Cuba in France and Portugal, Spain, in Slovenia and, like her mentor Wendy hill your represented diversity within the sport.

00:35:11.610 --> 00:35:18.150 Jeff Goodman: After placing third on the national team two more times Alexis retired from the sport in 2012 to two injuries.

00:35:18.510 --> 00:35:30.390 Jeff Goodman: and decided to return to the Foundation, as head coach where she currently trains to gymnast's Alexis also attended Howard University in 2016 transferred to hunter college here in New York, we should graduate.

00:35:30.900 --> 00:35:36.690 Jeff Goodman: With a degree in human biology Wendy hilliard and Alexis page a hearty welcome to rediscovering New York.

00:35:37.650 --> 00:35:39.150 Wendy Hilliard: Thank you so glad to be here.

00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:42.780 Jeff Goodman: Alexis you grew up in the bronx when do you know you're from New York originally.

00:35:43.380 --> 00:35:45.000 Wendy Hilliard: i'm from Detroit Michigan.

00:35:45.270 --> 00:35:56.910 Jeff Goodman: Okay well that's going to lead into another question later on, about the second branch of the windy hill your gymnastics foundation when did each of you decide that you wanted to be gymnast's.

00:35:59.070 --> 00:36:00.750 Wendy Hilliard: let's see i'll start with first.

00:36:01.890 --> 00:36:21.660 Wendy Hilliard: um I was actually I didn't start your massive size about 12 actually and I just saw it on TV and let's just medicalized I was a swimmer before I kind of do both, and then I decided that I wanted to concentrate on gymnastics, but it was just something I saw on TV and wanted to do.

00:36:23.130 --> 00:36:26.040 Jeff Goodman: lexis when did you decide that you wanted to to be a gymnast.

00:36:26.790 --> 00:36:34.230 Alexis Page: i'm more like many young gymnasts I just taught myself how to do skills or critical fail flips around the House and.

00:36:35.580 --> 00:36:53.220 Alexis Page: Then I was known as one of those like flip girls that flip girl that like flip down the street and my mom worked alongside wendy's husband, at the same company and he told my mom and just come down to win these Saturday program and that's how I started.

00:36:55.050 --> 00:37:04.320 Jeff Goodman: I want to ask you both the question about rhythmic gymnastics i'm I wouldn't even call myself a lay person i'm almost not very aware of the details of gymnastics.

00:37:04.740 --> 00:37:10.620 Jeff Goodman: Except I appreciate the sport and you know watching the competition on TV and being totally awed by the precision.

00:37:11.130 --> 00:37:21.870 Jeff Goodman: And the focus and the concentration and the excellence of the athletes who are engaged in it and who do it well, is rhythmic gymnastics different from gymnastics in general, is it a special kind of gymnastics.

00:37:23.310 --> 00:37:33.570 Wendy Hilliard: It is so gymnastics has different disciplines right so gymnastics is movement, the term is on movement, either on or with APP racks.

00:37:33.930 --> 00:37:43.920 Wendy Hilliard: So, when what they call artistic gymnastics the most popular event Jennifer on average it's like on the balance beam on the bars are on the parallel bars or cements the rings.

00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:49.140 Wendy Hilliard: And rhythmic gymnastics we work with hand apparatus with the hoop with the ball, with the ribbon.

00:37:49.470 --> 00:38:00.720 Wendy Hilliard: And then there are also other gymnastics which we call tumbling and trampoline trampoline is an Olympic sport, the big trampoline people see and also tumbling, so there are different disciplines of gymnastics.

00:38:01.080 --> 00:38:13.410 Wendy Hilliard: Or you tend to be able to the big the base of the sport is very similar, you have to be strong, you have to be able to be flexible, but when you move on the disciplines determine what type of equipment you work on a whim.

00:38:15.690 --> 00:38:20.490 Jeff Goodman: How old were each of you, when you started to be trained by by coaches.

00:38:22.650 --> 00:38:25.020 Alexis Page: I was seven seven years old.

00:38:26.490 --> 00:38:27.120 Wendy Hilliard: And I was well.

00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:40.500 Jeff Goodman: there's a reason i'm asking you that we'll get to in a minute um, but I want to ask you both about your experiences, when you first went into the sport and if you face racism, when you were getting involved in gymnastics in the beginning.

00:38:43.140 --> 00:38:52.950 Wendy Hilliard: You know that's an interesting question and I think most athletes would say this is that when you get into a sport you just get into the sport, because you love it, especially if you're going to take it to a high level.

00:38:53.670 --> 00:39:01.050 Wendy Hilliard: I was in Detroit, and so my story is initially I started writing the city of Detroit but they didn't have the equipment, I wanted to be on.

00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:11.070 Wendy Hilliard: Right, so we had to go out to the suburbs, when we went out to the suburbs, we were we met these coaches, who had just come from the former Soviet Union, and they were working at the Jewish community Center.

00:39:11.610 --> 00:39:20.550 Wendy Hilliard: And so my mom who didn't like the fact that way to drive so far to take gymnastics and it was really expensive like $500 for the year, she was like oh it's so expensive.

00:39:21.270 --> 00:39:31.410 Wendy Hilliard: So she convinced the recreation department of Detroit to hire these coaches so as a result, I had these really great coaches it ended up being for husband and wife team.

00:39:31.830 --> 00:39:41.070 Wendy Hilliard: xena and Vladimir Marin off and then Rosa Linda and my freedom that is for coaches that taught in the recreation department, so my experience was.

00:39:41.730 --> 00:39:45.960 Wendy Hilliard: In the city of Detroit in the recreation department in my community.

00:39:46.560 --> 00:40:01.560 Wendy Hilliard: With these really great coaches, so it was always very mixed now when I got on the national level and the international level that's when things change because there were very few black gymnast competing and I definitely had my ups and downs with that um.

00:40:02.730 --> 00:40:08.610 Jeff Goodman: How about you Alexis did you did you face racism from people around you in the sport, when you first started getting coached.

00:40:09.450 --> 00:40:21.540 Alexis Page: Well, like Wendy said when you start the sport you're not really focused on race you're just starting you're starting to see want to do it, but I was fortunate enough to start on the windy hill your classic foundation.

00:40:21.570 --> 00:40:22.620 Jeff Goodman: So it.

00:40:22.710 --> 00:40:29.790 Alexis Page: was a diverse team, it was black and brown girls and we had an amazing coach kareena would never.

00:40:31.350 --> 00:40:47.130 Alexis Page: Who didn't really focus on our skin tone she just want the best for us, but it wasn't until I got on to the national team that I am I got older and I started seeing like slight differences and how I was treated and.

00:40:48.210 --> 00:40:53.610 Alexis Page: I would see my coaches or hear my coaches reference to stereotypes.

00:40:54.990 --> 00:41:15.450 Alexis Page: that are associated with black people and that's when I noticed that it didn't really faze me as much as the classism because religion, sex is a very expensive sport and I came from an underprivileged Community so that's really more of what I faced.

00:41:17.100 --> 00:41:20.490 Jeff Goodman: When do you what was your inspiration for getting the Foundation started.

00:41:22.050 --> 00:41:33.960 Wendy Hilliard: Up pretty much what you're talking about part of it was that by this time I competed I was on the national team for 10 years and then I coach for another four or five years six years.

00:41:34.530 --> 00:41:39.480 Wendy Hilliard: And I really loved elite level sport, but it's very difficult, I mean you're in the gym.

00:41:40.410 --> 00:41:44.640 Wendy Hilliard: For six hours a day, six days a week, either as an athlete or as a coach.

00:41:44.970 --> 00:41:53.610 Wendy Hilliard: and also after I retired I didn't see many more girls of color in the sport and the sport was getting way way even more expensive than when I did.

00:41:53.910 --> 00:42:02.790 Wendy Hilliard: So that's really what inspired me by this time I had been President women's sports foundation, so I understood a lot about advocacy I understood about raising money.

00:42:03.210 --> 00:42:18.390 Wendy Hilliard: I it was really like the right to compete on different levels and so that's what inspired me to start my foundation my athlete had gone off to be on the Olympic team, and so it was a great time for me to kind of pivot and go back to grassroots sports.

00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:26.550 Jeff Goodman: I want to ask you a question about the support in initially before we take a break, you know, sometimes when people start nonprofits.

00:42:27.630 --> 00:42:40.050 Jeff Goodman: it's easy to create a wave of enthusiasm and to get a lot of grassroots support, but sometimes it's it's uphill I mean it's always a challenge to get people to reach into their pockets and say we believe in you, you know you know how much can I give you.

00:42:41.310 --> 00:42:48.360 Jeff Goodman: and help you with this um what kind of support, did you originally get from the Community, when you when you wanted to start the Foundation.

00:42:49.380 --> 00:42:59.310 Wendy Hilliard: that's a really great question so initially we started with kind of two grants the Olympic Committee because rhythmic gymnastics is relatively new as the first Olympic sport in 1984.

00:42:59.670 --> 00:43:10.800 Wendy Hilliard: They had a grant for emerging sports, so they are giving money to support growing non traditional emergent sports or if it's your nasa's one of those the other one was basically from the city.

00:43:11.730 --> 00:43:20.250 Wendy Hilliard: It was department of youth and Community development and they were doing some grants for basically youth development under school and after school programs.

00:43:20.580 --> 00:43:29.970 Wendy Hilliard: So the great thing is, is that my degrees in journalism, so I knew how to write because that's what you have to do a lot of when you do grants and things like that so.

00:43:30.720 --> 00:43:47.880 Wendy Hilliard: Those are my first supporters and then we just it's just constant raising money is a constant thing that you go to Community but we work with our public officials it's kind of funny because gale brewer was a city council woman, where I first started the Foundation.

00:43:48.120 --> 00:43:50.670 Jeff Goodman: galas manhattan's fabulous borough President.

00:43:50.820 --> 00:44:02.040 Wendy Hilliard: Yes, and so she supports, is still I mean she comes to our meats, and she comes to our events all the time, so she's actually been with us for a long, long time but that's what you do reach out to your public officials to also get support.

00:44:03.540 --> 00:44:16.890 Jeff Goodman: we're going to take a short break and when we come back we're going to continue our conversation with Wendy hilliard and Alexis page Wendy is the founder of the Wendy hill your gymnastics foundation and Alexis is the head coach will be back in a moment.

00:44:18.420 --> 00:44:18.810 All right, let's.

00:44:19.980 --> 00:44:21.450 Talk radio and my.

00:44:22.590 --> 00:44:24.540 Jeff Goodman: Left edge and.

00:46:32.100 --> 00:46:47.400 Jeff Goodman: we're back to rediscovering New York and our special episode celebrating women's history month here in New York, my guests in the second part of the program or Wendy heal your new lexus page Wendy is the founder of the windy hill your gymnastics foundation and Alexis is the head coach.

00:46:48.900 --> 00:46:51.930 Jeff Goodman: Alexis when did you join the Foundation, as the head coach.

00:46:53.610 --> 00:46:55.830 Alexis Page: Well, I started coaching and.

00:46:57.090 --> 00:47:00.900 Alexis Page: But I didn't become the head coach until about four years ago.

00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.110 Alexis Page: Actually five some 2016.

00:47:05.190 --> 00:47:17.670 Jeff Goodman: You both started taking lessons at different points in your lives, you were 12 Wendy and Alexis you were six what age do a lot of the kids who get involved in the Foundation start start their coaching.

00:47:19.410 --> 00:47:21.390 Wendy Hilliard: I told you to start training.

00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:27.810 Jeff Goodman: Training i'm sorry I told you, I was a lay person when it came to the door don't know much about it.

00:47:28.410 --> 00:47:32.070 Wendy Hilliard: I can throw that one to Alexis good she's good only young ones.

00:47:33.390 --> 00:47:54.570 Alexis Page: um so from rhythmic you're supposed to start training around let's say six and my European countries they started for as early as four but um I started at 7am ended up fine, so I think that you can start from like four to seven yeah.

00:47:56.160 --> 00:48:06.930 Jeff Goodman: Does the Foundation have programming on aside from just training unless that's what kind of things do you offer beyond you know typical lessons and training.

00:48:08.160 --> 00:48:09.150 Wendy Hilliard: You know so.

00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:17.010 Wendy Hilliard: Pre Colvin actually we really have a pretty robust robust program we have a big partnership with the Harlem children's zone.

00:48:17.640 --> 00:48:28.110 Wendy Hilliard: And at the heart of our move we do classes, we do mommy and me fastest we call the repair to meet classes, which starts at 18 months and that's really introduction to gymnastics but it's really, really fun.

00:48:28.500 --> 00:48:38.160 Wendy Hilliard: For little ones, to be able to get on a trampoline and just jump around, especially in New York, and we take those classes, all the way up, so we have our signature classes or Saturday.

00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:46.260 Wendy Hilliard: Community classes, where kids learn gymnastics and that's where we kind of choose those that want to take gymnastics further.

00:48:46.710 --> 00:48:59.370 Wendy Hilliard: And then we have adult classes, so we really miss it we do we have a free adult class twice a week, which is really quite fun, but I would say, in addition to gymnastics gymnastics is very.

00:49:00.300 --> 00:49:05.580 Wendy Hilliard: Well it's very progressive and you have to have a lot of elements so, especially in reversing the kids have to learn ballet.

00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:14.730 Wendy Hilliard: They have to learn how to stretch, they have to learn to take care of their bodies, they have to learn about music right with MC is a is one of the sports are you if music is critical.

00:49:15.030 --> 00:49:30.060 Wendy Hilliard: But I think our our young people in our program we do a lot of reading we do a lot with nutrition we're really big on teaching kids about nutrition when they're young so that they can understand how it affects their bodies, especially in sport.

00:49:31.050 --> 00:49:42.960 Wendy Hilliard: We do some reading sports safety and we do have what we call work development so when the kids get maybe around 12 or 13 or so, our team kids we bring them in and they help assist the coach.

00:49:43.470 --> 00:49:52.680 Wendy Hilliard: And so we're trying to give them those skills so that, when they go away to college or for whatever reason, by the time they finished with us because they've been doing gymnastics since they were like seven years old.

00:49:52.890 --> 00:49:58.110 Wendy Hilliard: After eight or nine years, they can start teaching and it's one of the skills they take with them when they leave us.

00:49:59.070 --> 00:50:15.810 Jeff Goodman: We one of the things that you do with the Foundation is to touch inner city kids i'm Alexis can you share any stories of young people who've been engaged with the Foundation and what it's meant for them in their lives to be to be part of it.

00:50:16.860 --> 00:50:39.540 Alexis Page: Yes, so i'm one of my former gymnast ellery PENA rez she came from Italy, actually, and she came here, and she didn't know any English and I was actually walking her from school to practice at times from back to school and.

00:50:41.220 --> 00:50:44.610 Alexis Page: We were coming through Google translate and everything and.

00:50:45.540 --> 00:50:48.210 Jeff Goodman: What a friend Google translate it's it's amazing.

00:50:50.220 --> 00:51:11.220 Alexis Page: It is amazing um but she grew so much with the program she was one of our highest level gymnast and, sadly, she moved during quarantine during a coven when it first happened, but she still comes to visit and she's an amazing gymnast and a supporter, to our Program.

00:51:13.050 --> 00:51:15.210 Jeff Goodman: You know Wendy I was going to ask you a two part question.

00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:24.480 Jeff Goodman: The first one was going to be that there are lots of places in the country that would benefit through your foundations work why Detroit I know the answer to that now, but.

00:51:25.200 --> 00:51:36.270 Jeff Goodman: When you started the the the brand to the Foundation in Detroit was it easy to harness the resources and support that you needed to to start out in Detroit.

00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:43.380 Wendy Hilliard: yeah that's a good question, so it was easy in one way, the one way that was easy as that I had my teammates.

00:51:43.650 --> 00:51:52.500 Wendy Hilliard: in Detroit right, so they knew how we we teach monastics in a specific way that was based on my coaches and now with lexus and her coaches.

00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:58.770 Wendy Hilliard: We have a way of teaching and so when I went to Detroit I knew that all of my teammates would be able to contribute.

00:51:59.100 --> 00:52:05.940 Wendy Hilliard: and run you know hit the ground running and one of my coaches from New York and moved to Detroit so we're able to do programming we actually got.

00:52:06.690 --> 00:52:13.980 Wendy Hilliard: equipment donated to us because we decided to start in 2016 where everybody's excited about Simone biles the Olympics.

00:52:14.490 --> 00:52:21.960 Wendy Hilliard: So we were able to hit the ground running with programming, but the long term administration took a little bit more.

00:52:22.350 --> 00:52:29.100 Wendy Hilliard: And so we just actually expanded our board and in included for people from Detroit.

00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:37.380 Wendy Hilliard: So we really wanted to have our model set our business model, so we can expand in other places, and so what it is, is that we have one board of directors.

00:52:37.680 --> 00:52:54.780 Wendy Hilliard: For them, we have you know now we have 16 but for them are specifically concentrated on Detroit, and so what we're finding out is that we can now, after all this time program how to do gymnastics but getting the support you have to be very local to make sure to get in that area.

00:52:55.590 --> 00:53:02.100 Jeff Goodman: Well, speaking of local programming I know it's been canceled this year, but you want to talk about the Harlem invitational and what that is.

00:53:03.330 --> 00:53:20.430 Wendy Hilliard: Yes, well, but how limitation is our annual competition we hosted at the Harlem very that http armory and it's 50,000 square feet, as you know, armies are really amazing venues really you know 70 foot ceilings know columns just big open drill floor.

00:53:20.610 --> 00:53:26.340 Jeff Goodman: So Harlem armory is especially beautiful because it's an art DECO structure to so it's a you know, really, really something.

00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:36.090 Wendy Hilliard: As a very special place, and so what we do is, we invite people from around the country we have up to like 1000 kids that come to Harlem.

00:53:36.450 --> 00:53:41.550 Wendy Hilliard: To be a part of our problem invitational it's like a three day competition rhythmic gymnastics.

00:53:41.970 --> 00:53:50.790 Wendy Hilliard: gymnastics tumbling trampoline what's really fun, is that, through our partnership we, as I told you, we concentrate on good nutrition, so we can't have bad.

00:53:51.360 --> 00:54:05.970 Wendy Hilliard: What is it fast food at most competitions like no hot dogs and pizza slices and potato chips, so what we did is we have soul food, so we have baked chicken and some greens and some plantains and smoothies.

00:54:06.270 --> 00:54:10.470 Wendy Hilliard: So now everybody that comes to our meat loves it because we have such good food.

00:54:10.860 --> 00:54:21.180 Wendy Hilliard: But it also gives everyone an opportunity to come to our home it's like for our kids, as we said gymnastics is very expensive and travel is one of the big expenses.

00:54:21.450 --> 00:54:35.760 Wendy Hilliard: So now, when they come to us all of our kids because whenever we do events at the Harlem armory it's always free right everybody can come free so it's a big celebration our kids get to show off and we get to show our problem to the rest of the country.

00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:47.970 Jeff Goodman: we're almost at a time in less than a minute that we have left, are there any programs that you have on the drawing board that you're looking forward to unveiling after after the pandemic.

00:54:49.380 --> 00:54:58.170 Wendy Hilliard: I don't know man I just talked about this a couple of couple of days ago because we're doing a lot of online and we've actually reached a lot of people.

00:54:59.010 --> 00:55:06.900 Wendy Hilliard: We were talking about doing some more classes to keep them online to keep kids engaged about improving their gymnastics skills.

00:55:07.170 --> 00:55:21.120 Wendy Hilliard: So we're We look forward to onsite finances because that's the best you got to get on equipment or work with equipment, but we are going to keep her online presence, so that we can support athletes affordably online to get better in gymnastics.

00:55:21.930 --> 00:55:26.520 Jeff Goodman: And how can people find out about programming at the foundation and possibly to support you.

00:55:28.260 --> 00:55:35.880 Wendy Hilliard: Well, I say they should come to our website windy hill your org we are all over social media and I got to give it to a lexus and the staff you're fabulous.

00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:44.730 Wendy Hilliard: run this program are really good tic TAC, you can find this Twitter Facebook and it's really great because I do want to say that my staff.

00:55:45.090 --> 00:55:59.490 Wendy Hilliard: did a fabulous job when we were hit with coven of engaging with the kids and they really found a way to support them, so you know come to our website donate to what we do, we have great staff, and we have great gymnastics and it'll be so worth it.

00:56:00.930 --> 00:56:08.490 Jeff Goodman: And you do such important work and impact so many people's lives Wendy Alexis Thank you so much for being guests on the show.

00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:21.000 Jeff Goodman: i'm a second guests on our special program celebrating women's history month here in New York, have been windy hill your who's the founder of the Wendy heal your genetics foundation and Alexis page who's the head coach of the Foundation.

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