Professionals & Animal Lovers Show

Wednesday, September 8, 2021
Facebook Live Video from 2021/09/08 - Catnip Nation

Facebook Live Video from 2021/09/08 - Catnip Nation


2021/09/08 - Catnip Nation

[NEW EPISODE] Catnip Nation

Tina Traster, is an award winning journalist, author and filmmaker. Tina directed the award winning documentary Catnip Nation which exposes 3 towns across the country for their political cruelties to feral cats. Oceanside, New York and specifically the Town of Hempstead are one of the 3 towns in the film. See our Facebook page here.

Catnip Nation, is a documentary that sheds light on the crisis of feral cats, TNR as one solution to deal with the issue, and the plights of individuals who devote themselves to these creatures but have to get to do their work in the political and legal arenas.

Tune in for this heartfelt conversation at or watch the Facebook Livestream by Clicking Here.

Show Notes

Segment 1

The show opens up with Tommy introducing himself and what the show is all about, animal advocacy. Valerie comes in by also introducing herself, Tina’s documentary, Catnip Nation, and reiterates the purpose of the PALS. Tommy then introduces Tina Traster and she comes in and clarifies what she wanted to discuss in today’s show: feral cats, Catnip Nation, and TNR. Tina offers some data about stray cats and the cause of how “colonies,” or groups of stray cats, are made. She then defines what TNR is, Trap-Neuter-Return, and how it can help these colonies of cats. They finish off the segment by touching upon a landfill in Oceanside, New York and red kayaks.

Segment 2

After the ad break, they come back to Tommy reading out Facebook Live comments and reintroducing the show. They return to the original topic of the situation in Oceanside where Valerie was first introduced to animal rights and caught the attention of Tina who was in the middle of making her documentary. Tina explains that her documentary is about the people who take care of the stray cats, how the feral cats crisis is hidden to the public eyes since feral cats are reclusive, and how there is no one leading the legal and political war against the government. Tommy interjects before the ad break to clarify the objective of Tina’s and Valerie’s point of view and discusses what he wants to talk about in the next segment, statistics.

Segment 3

Tommy comes back to ask Tina to describe a photo of a protest in Hempstead. Tina depicts the situation of armed protesters, police cars, and towing trucks. Tommy then asks both Valerie and Tina to describe to him what makes this feral cat crisis a political war. Valerie and Tina explain that it is about the money. Valerie talks about how good activism is when you frame it as a fiscal issue. She expounds with a rhetorical question, “What is the best way to use tax dollars?” Politicians realize that they don’t want to just euthanize the colonies, and they don’t realize that it would be efficient to invest in TNR since it would be the town supporting the shelter instead of the other way around. Tina talks about how politicians give shelter jobs to their political “cronies” instead of actual qualified animal professionals and they use the animal rights to gain votes.

Segment 4

To start off the final segment, Valerie talks about the stories of people who helped with feral cats and the statistics of cat reproduction. She then describes how it is very difficult to bring the crisis into the topic of national news because younger generations are disconnected from the problem; they don’t see it and therefore it doesn’t exist to them. We need a celebrity to bring this to the masses and raise awareness. They close out this week’s episode by shouting out some organizations that are dedicated to helping feral cats through TNR.


00:00:37.260 --> 00:00:41.220 Tommy DiMisa: Well, that is our theme song, and that means our show is about to begin, that means it's 2pm.

00:00:41.670 --> 00:00:51.690 Tommy DiMisa: Eastern time that's New York time for y'all here's the deal if you're not checking in on Facebook, this is palace, by the way, if you're not checking in on the Facebook on the live stream.

00:00:52.290 --> 00:00:58.890 Tommy DiMisa: you're not seeing my buddy jovi dancing to our theme song, so I think if you haven't checked in on Facebook, you should check it on Facebook.

00:00:59.190 --> 00:01:05.550 Tommy DiMisa: But if you're traveling and you can't get through Facebook, you can always check out professionals and animal lovers show on talk radio dot nyc.

00:01:05.940 --> 00:01:13.200 Tommy DiMisa: And if you are able to check it on Facebook it's talking alternative broadcasting that voice that you may recognize from Friday morning well that's my voice i'm Tommy D.

00:01:13.470 --> 00:01:20.850 Tommy DiMisa: The nonprofit sector connect our host and philanthropy and focusing co host of this year professionals and animal lovers show.

00:01:21.690 --> 00:01:33.150 Tommy DiMisa: Each week we're going to get together at 2pm and shine a light on the need for advocacy in the animal world in the animal kingdom, you know, this is, in a situation where.

00:01:34.170 --> 00:01:40.470 Tommy DiMisa: I know all that much about to be honest with you i'm learning constantly and i'm getting exposed to videos and.

00:01:41.430 --> 00:01:51.030 Tommy DiMisa: information that I had no awareness about so so if you're at a high level animal advocates very well informed, like my town Valerie.

00:01:51.510 --> 00:01:59.820 Tommy DiMisa: check in with us if you're like me and you really don't know what you're in for get on the roller coaster sitting next to me and enjoy the ride because i'm learning a bunch and literally.

00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.530 Tommy DiMisa: It felt they liked us they really like us, they brought us back this is episode number two.

00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:15.420 Tommy DiMisa: Of the professionals and animal lover show, and I just want to tell you, we are what we're about and and then i'll let out well the long island railroad is here, he comes in and visits with me throughout many of my shows, and many of my meetings.

00:02:15.870 --> 00:02:20.130 Tommy DiMisa: And I was told if there's an elephant in the room name it so that's the long island railroad you here behind me.

00:02:20.670 --> 00:02:30.390 Tommy DiMisa: So look this show is all about focusing on professionals who love animals care about animals and nonprofit organizations charities.

00:02:30.630 --> 00:02:42.690 Tommy DiMisa: Who are focused on animal advocacy so we want to amplify the message that the bond between animal lovers is incredibly strong we've seen it Valerie tell you kind of where it all came from What this shows really came from in a second but.

00:02:43.200 --> 00:02:52.620 Tommy DiMisa: We want to support one another in business and build compassionate networks together so everyone wins, especially the, especially the animals when.

00:02:53.310 --> 00:02:56.910 Tommy DiMisa: We will achieve and continue to create community by hosting this weekly show.

00:02:57.390 --> 00:03:05.310 Tommy DiMisa: And we will bring on organizations that focus on protecting sheltering and advocating for animals and obviously professionals who care about animals look.

00:03:05.580 --> 00:03:14.880 Tommy DiMisa: I said it last week i'll say it again i'm super excited to be doing this out with you my comrade my Pal now Valerie Hebron what's up what are you doing.

00:03:16.200 --> 00:03:26.460 Valerie Heffron: So, first of all I wanted to wish everyone who celebrates and observes the Jewish holidays, along with jovi here's this little yarmulke ella shana tova.

00:03:28.110 --> 00:03:35.490 Valerie Heffron: A sweet New Year to us all, especially the animals um okay that's not stay on.

00:03:37.980 --> 00:03:47.250 Tommy DiMisa: This animal is really decked out like did he come with all this stuff it's like you know, like when you buy like a like when my daughters have a Barbie doll it comes, like all the gear did he come with a yarmulke and no.

00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:48.600 Tommy DiMisa: You did not.

00:03:50.370 --> 00:03:55.110 Valerie Heffron: But um you know before I forget even mentioned my name is Valerie have fun.

00:03:56.220 --> 00:04:07.080 Valerie Heffron: It is an absolute pleasure to have our guest Tina trust her on today, who is an award winning journalist a filmmaker and her documentary catnip nation.

00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:13.320 Valerie Heffron: she's been generous generous enough to say that she's going to give out 10.

00:04:14.190 --> 00:04:23.040 Valerie Heffron: Copies DVD copies to the first 10 people who share this podcast so if you're one of the first 10 we're going to PM you or.

00:04:23.250 --> 00:04:33.810 Valerie Heffron: will find you and we're going to ask you for your address, and we'll have them shipped out we'll have it shipped out to you, so you can enjoy this incredible documentary for free and.

00:04:34.350 --> 00:04:43.050 Valerie Heffron: other thing I have to mention is our company work be done a relatively new startup company it's a gig and marketplace company.

00:04:43.710 --> 00:04:54.090 Valerie Heffron: Is a spot and sponsors this show, along with Tommy to nisa, and the reason we're doing this is because we want to really highlight compassionate people who are in.

00:04:54.090 --> 00:04:54.900 Tommy DiMisa: business.

00:04:55.050 --> 00:05:13.230 Valerie Heffron: They have a for profit company and or a rescue via one see advocacy group so, our goal is to get people and support them, who we want them to be successful, because they're compassionate towards the animals and also, of course.

00:05:13.770 --> 00:05:20.130 Valerie Heffron: You know, get support and garner attention for great causes so without any further ado.

00:05:21.330 --> 00:05:26.790 Valerie Heffron: Tommy, would you please take the great pleasure of introducing our fabulous guests.

00:05:26.850 --> 00:05:35.880 Tommy DiMisa: You know we're psyched to have you here, but i'm going to do kind of meeting a little bit to kind of set the stage, so I mean I watched the trailer like seven times this morning I don't know if they're.

00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:46.050 Tommy DiMisa: watching the actual documentary, so I do need to watch the full Doc at some point soon, but here's what I learned, would you risk arrest arrest, that is for a cat.

00:05:46.710 --> 00:05:54.270 Tommy DiMisa: A stray cat would you disassociate yourself from your long time little gap our political allies and upset your status quo.

00:05:54.690 --> 00:06:01.260 Tommy DiMisa: To protect cats stray cats again this isn't even your House tat this isn't your own family pet would you do this well.

00:06:01.500 --> 00:06:08.460 Tommy DiMisa: there's a lot more to be said, but the heroes, that is heroes of catnip nation, have done all of these things and many, many more.

00:06:08.700 --> 00:06:18.780 Tommy DiMisa: To take care of the cats, who really, as we know, cannot take care of themselves when they're on the street Tina is going to tell us probably some statistics shortly about how many cats on that I heard on this.

00:06:19.440 --> 00:06:28.560 Tommy DiMisa: On the other trailer were insane I think it was more cats that live on the streets than actually our House pets are not mistaken, so Tina.

00:06:29.370 --> 00:06:38.400 Tommy DiMisa: Is a socially conscious award winning journalist author and filmmaker and her award winning documentary catnip nation was co produced and edited by Lennon.

00:06:38.820 --> 00:06:49.410 Tommy DiMisa: And our says it now they made this documentary to shed a light on the crisis of Feral cats so trap neuter and release is one solution to deal with this issue.

00:06:49.740 --> 00:07:02.310 Tommy DiMisa: But there are many individuals that are out there, fighting and protecting on behalf of these four legged friends, I can't protect themselves Tina welcome to the show welcome House welcome personally in my attic, which is where my home base is that jovi.

00:07:02.940 --> 00:07:04.020 Tommy DiMisa: so well.

00:07:06.210 --> 00:07:09.960 Tommy DiMisa: God is saying welcome as well Tina welcome to the show how are you.

00:07:19.890 --> 00:07:21.000 tina traster: That is always.

00:07:22.140 --> 00:07:34.830 Tommy DiMisa: that's always a privilege right there and that's always a guarantee that I know that i'm in good company, so thank you for having me on the show today, well, I want to talk about.

00:07:35.760 --> 00:07:47.910 Tommy DiMisa: I want to talk about the crisis of Feral cats, I want to talk a little bit about GNR I want to talk about catnip nation, and I want to talk about our nation in general um.

00:07:49.200 --> 00:07:51.720 let's start with Feral cats.

00:07:53.520 --> 00:07:54.750 tina traster: If you ask.

00:07:56.460 --> 00:08:05.790 10 people on the street what's a Feral cat what's a cat colony or have you ever heard of dnr trap neuter return.

00:08:06.990 --> 00:08:20.190 I really think that you get maybe a 30% response of people who know what that is and if they do know what it is there's also a good chance that they're probably 50 years older over.

00:08:21.510 --> 00:08:38.040 We have prices in this country that is is not unique to this country it's a crisis of the world, which is that we have an overpopulation of cats but unlike geese or deer.

00:08:51.990 --> 00:09:05.520 tina traster: But, unlike most wild animals, those of us who live with cats love cats and and those of us who have cats to fill our lives recognize the pain and the hardship.

00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:27.840 tina traster: When it is brought to our attention when there is perspective, given that there are cats living in large groups from 10 to 60 in places every in every single village in every single town in every single state across the country.

00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.160 tina traster: They start.

00:09:33.450 --> 00:09:59.970 tina traster: As to they reproduce they the reproduction goes unchecked and they end up literally forming what are called colonies behind supermarkets along rivers in back of developments in condos anywhere, where they can carve out a small piece of the world for themselves.

00:10:01.140 --> 00:10:16.710 tina traster: in some circumstances they fend for themselves in these colonies and they are going to live very long because they're there depending on nature, but what is what has happened, and this is this is decades old, this is not something new.

00:10:17.820 --> 00:10:18.420 tina traster: People.

00:10:19.590 --> 00:10:24.870 tina traster: pass by these colonies, because, in general, these colonies are where we live.

00:10:25.560 --> 00:10:44.400 tina traster: it's where we throw our garbage it's where we where we betray and, therefore, so do they just as a just as cats have them for 10,000 years, that is, in fact, how they became domesticated by living side by side with us so in these Feral colonies across the country.

00:10:46.140 --> 00:10:54.090 tina traster: is often and inevitably somebody with a heart for animals sees them knows that they are there.

00:10:55.320 --> 00:11:07.560 tina traster: And this is where the slippery slope begins, because at the at the very most superficial level somebody out of the goodness of their heart will start feeding them.

00:11:08.670 --> 00:11:16.290 tina traster: And maybe giving them, giving them water and that might be enough to keep them alive and and to help them survive.

00:11:17.460 --> 00:11:29.010 tina traster: But we, but people who who end up in this world typically eventually hear about or understand trap neuter return, which is to.

00:11:30.060 --> 00:11:44.130 tina traster: Take the cats two at a time for two time whatever However, they can be trapped to have them fixed to have them vaccinated and then to return in place so that they can live out their lives.

00:11:44.730 --> 00:12:00.570 tina traster: With some dignity in the ideal world the way it works is that a colony will will it's almost like it has an invisible border and if nobody can reproduce the colony in theory will age out.

00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:17.130 tina traster: The cats, you know, will be able to thrive as best they can, because they're partially being cared for and eventually they'll live a shorter life on the street, as they tend to maybe eight or 10 years old, unlike say a house cat that can live twice as long.

00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:23.910 tina traster: And, and you know that's sort of their best fate, so to speak.

00:12:23.970 --> 00:12:40.920 Valerie Heffron: I just ask you a question Tina I read a Stat the other day, and it basically said that most cats that are born outside so now we're talking kittens don't survive until they don't even live a year, do you think that's correct.

00:12:41.100 --> 00:12:56.550 tina traster: I think I think that can be correct, I think that if the mother abandons them and they're not being fed, they can survive on their own, I think you know it used to be that the spring was kitten season and rescues will tell you that kittens.

00:12:56.550 --> 00:12:57.480 Valerie Heffron: avoid around.

00:12:57.750 --> 00:13:12.300 tina traster: While you're around so if a kitten is coming into the world, you know, in the cold harsh harsh weather and let's say we won't even get into climate change but I mean look, you know, look at all the unpredictability of the climate to add into this.

00:13:12.510 --> 00:13:20.940 Valerie Heffron: And to your point earlier when you were naming some of the places that are common to host if you will these colonies of cats.

00:13:21.810 --> 00:13:33.720 Valerie Heffron: A landfill is another one, and you know that is actually what kind of real be in to the animal advocacy world was the landfill cats of oceanside New York.

00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:46.290 Valerie Heffron: which was one of three highlighted areas locations in your catnip nation documentary and tell me real quick how we doing on time right now.

00:13:46.890 --> 00:13:51.090 Tommy DiMisa: yeah we're about to go into a break now bow but we why don't we set up when we come back.

00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.670 Tommy DiMisa: Because what i'm going to be great For those of you listening on Facebook.

00:13:53.670 --> 00:13:56.100 Tommy DiMisa: Is i'm going to share the website so.

00:13:56.790 --> 00:14:03.480 Tommy DiMisa: Tina i'm going to share a passion slash catnip nation that some people can get a check out on that is that the best place to share.

00:14:04.470 --> 00:14:10.440 tina traster: The best place that's our distributor but the best place to look at it would just be catnip nation COM on our website.

00:14:10.740 --> 00:14:18.960 Tommy DiMisa: Perfect okay cool alright so i'm going to share that so value teasing everybody with this whole thing with like what was left area where was it again.

00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:20.730 Valerie Heffron: ocean side New York.

00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:22.830 Tommy DiMisa: What what was the landfill.

00:14:23.490 --> 00:14:24.750 Valerie Heffron: Landfill yeah.

00:14:26.280 --> 00:14:40.110 Tommy DiMisa: So listen, this is going to be when we come back to be the story about the red kayak a landfill side long island New York to trousers here now is here, and your buddy Tommy deas here, this is professionals i'm loving surely back in 90 seconds thanks yeah.

00:16:52.290 --> 00:16:58.410 Tommy DiMisa: know I love our theme song I feel like i'm meditating very chill very Zen here in my attic every.

00:16:58.920 --> 00:17:03.720 Tommy DiMisa: Wednesday at 2pm will be here, this is the professionals and animal lovers show i'm Tommy.

00:17:04.020 --> 00:17:17.940 Tommy DiMisa: Co hosting with bow my buddy my Pal Valerie have front and Tina transfer is here before we jump right back into our compensation which takes us through a red kayak oceanside New York and a landfill that should be like the name of the band and.

00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:19.320 Tommy DiMisa: I want to give you a shout out.

00:17:19.410 --> 00:17:31.200 Tommy DiMisa: on Facebook to San Diego sin Siegfried she says hi jovi toba tikka Thuy vu i'm sorry sandy and i'm sorry oh my Jewish friends, if I screwed that up to that.

00:17:32.070 --> 00:17:46.080 Tommy DiMisa: So she says, I shared it on Facebook, she says love the show all my ferals are dnr yes, I did she's telling us this yes, I am over 50 Lol shout out to sandy thanks for checking in the show we appreciate you happy New Year.

00:17:47.250 --> 00:17:56.190 Tommy DiMisa: and also what I would say, is, I think we owe you a DVD so that we'll have to we'll take care and we'll we'll take care of the logistics, you have to show welcome back gang.

00:17:56.460 --> 00:18:04.110 Tommy DiMisa: This is pals each week we're amplifying the message on on lab see and those who were on the front lines Valerie we're while we were in oceanside what's going on.

00:18:04.740 --> 00:18:10.620 Valerie Heffron: OK so i'll be brief, but um first of all hi sandy Thank you so much um we.

00:18:11.730 --> 00:18:20.100 Valerie Heffron: Myself and now my husband and fiance you know we're minding our own business, we were blissfully unaware of these.

00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:30.300 Valerie Heffron: horrific situations unfolding around us locally and then a viral video caught my attention of a man who.

00:18:31.260 --> 00:18:42.450 Valerie Heffron: used to work at the ocean side landfill his name is Stanley Lombardo and it was a plea in the dog days of summer July, something to to.

00:18:43.050 --> 00:18:55.530 Valerie Heffron: protest because he had been caring for a colony of cats for like 15 years because you work there, and even went on his days off even like on Christmas and he would feed them and give them fresh water twice a day.

00:18:56.550 --> 00:19:04.890 Valerie Heffron: So after he retired in January, he had a political falling out and we always try to emphasize this, that.

00:19:05.580 --> 00:19:13.860 Valerie Heffron: Animal welfare is 100% political these decisions are rendered from your elected officials so imagine this you care for.

00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:22.380 Valerie Heffron: Anything I don't care if it's a plant for 15 years and then one day you're suddenly told you're not allowed to do that anymore.

00:19:22.650 --> 00:19:30.060 Valerie Heffron: you're not allowed to come on to this property and even though at that time it was public and open to the public property.

00:19:30.690 --> 00:19:37.200 Valerie Heffron: you're not allowed to feed your cats you're not allowed to give them water you're not allowed to see them or you're going to get arrested.

00:19:37.860 --> 00:19:48.030 Valerie Heffron: So that blew me away and I went to a protest over there and they met diane madden, who was a huge animal advocate and she just.

00:19:48.300 --> 00:19:54.090 Valerie Heffron: sucked me in you know she made me realize this isn't over after this protest and she was so right.

00:19:54.480 --> 00:20:07.260 Valerie Heffron: But fortunately this story also caught the attention of Tina translator who was in the middle of producing and directing this very documentary so she added this particular play.

00:20:07.950 --> 00:20:21.090 Valerie Heffron: To that repertoire of stories that she needed to convey in her documentary so Tina take it away I got Oh, the kayak i'm sorry, so the cost of.

00:20:21.840 --> 00:20:26.280 Valerie Heffron: Higher fees I kayak over to this property.

00:20:26.790 --> 00:20:35.760 Valerie Heffron: After we were told we were shut out the public wasn't allowed to go check on these animals everyone's freaking out, you know, are they being fed do they have fresh water.

00:20:36.030 --> 00:20:50.040 Valerie Heffron: So I kind of I did risk arrest, but I looked into it and I was told there was a $250 fine which I was willing to do, and they actually have be in a trailer you know kayaking all right that's pretty.

00:20:51.300 --> 00:20:51.510 tina traster: Much.

00:20:51.930 --> 00:20:54.270 tina traster: What you said what you say in the film.

00:20:55.560 --> 00:21:02.610 tina traster: Is Am I willing to get arrested and go to jail save one cat yes, I am and.

00:21:03.540 --> 00:21:12.000 tina traster: You know, we The thing is, is that Valerie you and I, we we live through stanley's crisis which became.

00:21:12.030 --> 00:21:13.380 tina traster: A crisis for all of us.

00:21:13.620 --> 00:21:14.670 tina traster: in real time.

00:21:15.120 --> 00:21:15.570 tina traster: You know, we.

00:21:15.630 --> 00:21:16.470 tina traster: saw how.

00:21:17.670 --> 00:21:36.000 tina traster: This man was parted from a group of cats that he considered to be his own and what it did to him and how it wore him down and how it got him to change, political parties and and and invest new hope you know, in a different candidate, because he understood.

00:21:37.020 --> 00:21:41.700 tina traster: That this is political and you know that is that is actually.

00:21:42.750 --> 00:21:57.630 tina traster: You know, when I when I tell people about this film, I say this film is not really about cats as much as it's about people in politics and people in the law in all three of our main stories that we tell.

00:21:58.740 --> 00:22:06.420 tina traster: The protagonist or the pair of protagonist in the case of our cancer, we have a Kansas couple an elderly couple from Kansas.

00:22:07.410 --> 00:22:23.340 tina traster: In in all three cases, these good Samaritans who were just going along and doing something that was so obscure, which was feeding cats a thankless job that you know they never asked to be thankful for.

00:22:24.030 --> 00:22:34.560 tina traster: And suddenly they find themselves in a in the political or legal fight of their lives and and they're willing to do it because they have.

00:22:35.130 --> 00:22:48.450 tina traster: So much conviction and so much heart invested in these creatures who you know are essentially I mean they're not wild animals completely, but these are not animals that sit on their couches at night.

00:22:49.020 --> 00:23:09.600 tina traster: so effectively, these are people who are taking care of animals that are living outdoors now I wanted to make a point about this, though, so on a global level Okay, what we have is an army of soldiers nationwide or out there in the trenches fighting this fight.

00:23:10.770 --> 00:23:16.350 tina traster: The fight is to to on the one side is just to help these creatures survive and on the.

00:23:19.860 --> 00:23:20.700 Valerie Heffron: Other side.

00:23:23.250 --> 00:23:24.270 Valerie Heffron: that's it okay.

00:23:24.600 --> 00:23:38.790 tina traster: yeah yeah it's it's the fend off all of the forces the development pressure the politician that doesn't get it, the neighbor that's that's pissy the threat of poison which, which is a real threat.

00:23:39.780 --> 00:23:50.760 tina traster: All of these fights that they take on, but the thing that I that I want to say, and I think about this, all the time, because I myself got involved in in activism to through this film.

00:23:51.540 --> 00:24:12.540 tina traster: For a time here in where I live, upstate New York and what's missing, while we have an army of soldiers what we don't have is a general, we do not have a leader, a let's say a national voice let's say a celebrity to to carry the mantle.

00:24:13.950 --> 00:24:32.670 tina traster: Something that is something that is something or someone that is able to take the message to the masses, because the whole problem with Feral cat problem and Feral cat crisis is met it's a crisis that does not exist in plain sight.

00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:42.090 tina traster: that most people don't know about it because, by their very nature ferals are reclusive and they look to live, you know.

00:24:42.120 --> 00:24:43.740 Valerie Heffron: Beyond sight line.

00:24:44.070 --> 00:24:49.170 tina traster: yeah yeah they live in the shadows, they live behind buildings, a little under boardwalks as they do.

00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:54.870 tina traster: In New Jersey, which was the second one of one of one of three stories that we told.

00:24:57.120 --> 00:25:08.220 tina traster: The hero in that instance was a gentleman named can Salerno who had worked with a national organization allocate allies to erect a model T in our Program.

00:25:08.550 --> 00:25:27.240 tina traster: He encountered a change of political winds of change of administration and in one fell swoop everything that had been that was building to reduce the colony size to feed the cats and to manage the colonies and keep everything under control, it was it was all it was all taken down by.

00:25:27.270 --> 00:25:28.470 Valerie Heffron: Hydra ordinance.

00:25:28.860 --> 00:25:30.330 Valerie Heffron: Did they threaten to just.

00:25:32.520 --> 00:25:47.370 tina traster: Of course there's there's no there's nobody there's nobody in this world who went and they really stand up to the forces that doesn't find their way interacting in the world of politics, policing.

00:25:48.030 --> 00:25:52.710 tina traster: Now horse, you know condo disputes so.

00:25:52.740 --> 00:25:53.550 Valerie Heffron: Sorry, dealing with.

00:25:53.790 --> 00:25:55.650 tina traster: The war and so.

00:25:56.580 --> 00:26:02.550 Valerie Heffron: I just wanted to interject for one second Tina because everything that you're saying I couldn't agree with everything you're saying more.

00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:16.020 Valerie Heffron: But also, I think it's important to highlight for people who are not cat lovers there's a lot of people who don't like cats they're afraid of them, or they are allergic to them, or you know, whatever or their adult person, you know people Salvador first right.

00:26:17.220 --> 00:26:31.020 Valerie Heffron: Why should they care, I think it's imperative for those people to understand why T and are and the humane way to handle this situation is important, why you shouldn't just pour antifreeze.

00:26:31.380 --> 00:26:38.820 Valerie Heffron: into some cat food and put it in your backyard Besides the fact that that's a completely despicable act any legal.

00:26:39.030 --> 00:26:39.660 Valerie Heffron: At least here.

00:26:40.800 --> 00:26:42.750 Valerie Heffron: And let it go, but you know.

00:26:42.900 --> 00:26:45.300 tina traster: The thing is so it's it's uh.

00:26:47.130 --> 00:26:48.210 Valerie Heffron: yeah and it's also.

00:26:48.900 --> 00:26:55.590 Valerie Heffron: it's also a cultural issue where I know some people like their old school and they're like well that's how we my grandfather handled it.

00:26:56.010 --> 00:27:04.020 Valerie Heffron: They look consider them to be like Bourbon but but in addition to all of that, you know, first of all, as a taxpayer.

00:27:04.590 --> 00:27:17.430 Valerie Heffron: You should understand that these programs are paid for it's part of what your tax dollars go to is to have this humane ability to contain and eliminate reproduction.

00:27:17.850 --> 00:27:20.970 Valerie Heffron: The other thing, though, is that you know cats are hunting.

00:27:21.600 --> 00:27:36.270 Valerie Heffron: So, the more the population explodes The more that is going to impact they're going to find the turtle doves they're going to find you know the other thing the other creatures, if you will, that you actually want around and you match up.

00:27:37.350 --> 00:27:37.830 Valerie Heffron: So I.

00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:40.470 Valerie Heffron: kind of explain that a little.

00:27:40.710 --> 00:27:53.580 Tommy DiMisa: So I have a question because again i'm always going to be, on the other side of this not understanding what you guys understand that I think some of our listeners are going to come from that same school of thoughts same angle and I just don't I don't I don't get it so.

00:27:54.630 --> 00:28:09.060 Tommy DiMisa: Are we trying, because that that last comment about that were concerned that they might go after other species are we trying we're trying to protect these animals, it sounds like but we're also trying to decrease their numbers at the same time.

00:28:09.120 --> 00:28:09.630 Tommy DiMisa: Right.

00:28:09.840 --> 00:28:11.670 Valerie Heffron: Right, so one mainly yes.

00:28:11.730 --> 00:28:25.020 Tommy DiMisa: Really, so it, so the objective here and we're going to go to break in second year, but the objective here is let's protect these animals mainly let's keep them going, but at the same time let's not.

00:28:26.790 --> 00:28:34.170 Tommy DiMisa: let's do whatever we can to decrease the numbers, because then they become a threat to other animals right so there's a.

00:28:34.170 --> 00:28:38.520 Valerie Heffron: lull not great, for the environment, I mean they have to go to the bathroom somewhere.

00:28:38.610 --> 00:28:48.540 Valerie Heffron: You know, but I guess ultimately what i'm trying to say is yes, because if you fix think about it, if they can't reproduce the population over time will automatically.

00:28:49.560 --> 00:28:51.030 Valerie Heffron: died down, so to speak.

00:28:51.180 --> 00:28:58.440 Tommy DiMisa: Well where's it, I want to talk numbers, when we come back to you, I want to know where It all starts, is it like somebody just releases their out only didn't want into I mean like I don't.

00:28:58.830 --> 00:28:59.730 Valerie Heffron: know what happens.

00:28:59.820 --> 00:29:00.300 Tommy DiMisa: Is if you.

00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:03.750 Tommy DiMisa: Go back to genesis here and like what happened in the beginning.

00:29:03.780 --> 00:29:04.230 Tommy DiMisa: But like.

00:29:04.890 --> 00:29:14.400 Tommy DiMisa: I want to talk about that, and when we come back and I also Tina if you could and Valerie obviously you know you know this information also is the numbers let's talk about how what we're actually looking at.

00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:29.190 Tommy DiMisa: And, and if you can't even Compare that to squirrels I mean I see squirrels in my neighborhood you know, but I wonder comparatively or there's many cats is there are much more cats in there are squirrels I don't know, do you know I don't I see i'm confusing everybody, but i'm curious.

00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:31.140 Valerie Heffron: No it's okay sounds fun I like.

00:29:31.740 --> 00:29:44.910 Tommy DiMisa: All right, so when we come back professionals, an animal lover show we're going to be talking statistics about what how many animals around there and how many need our help it's Tina tractor Valerie have fun and you might Tommy House but back.

00:32:21.810 --> 00:32:31.950 Tommy DiMisa: Welcome back to power and wanted to start now I showed a picture during the break you know student loans you checking in on Facebook and sharing yeah and I don't get caught that but.

00:32:32.310 --> 00:32:32.760 Valerie Heffron: yeah.

00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:39.120 Tommy DiMisa: Please in front of a cruiser out in long island what was that you shared that with me earlier today what was that was that picture about.

00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:51.660 Valerie Heffron: That was just a display to show how above and beyond the at that time, the political figures that bb that were in the town of Hempstead went to went through.

00:32:52.110 --> 00:33:02.640 Valerie Heffron: They showed up with police cars armed people they made a real stance in front of the gate even though again that landfill was open to the public for decades.

00:33:03.060 --> 00:33:11.910 Valerie Heffron: And, and not only that I should mention that they also tried to toe people's cars, like there was a very public parking lot across the street.

00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:22.830 Valerie Heffron: With like a pet supplies plus and everything and they sent tow trucks around and they warned us if you park here, we have to tell you that's town orders they didn't even.

00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:35.460 Valerie Heffron: You know, want us to have our voices shown or heard at this protest and really a despicable display but hey it helped us get that prior politician out.

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:53.010 Valerie Heffron: The saddest part about her documentary in my humble opinion, is that the new person who came in promised to help with this situation and reunite this guy standing with his cats and everything and she she blew everybody off anyway.

00:33:53.490 --> 00:33:55.320 Valerie Heffron: Well, after so.

00:33:55.380 --> 00:33:56.970 Tommy DiMisa: So I have a bunch more questions for.

00:33:57.060 --> 00:33:59.160 Valerie Heffron: Oh, we got her out to, by the way, I should like.

00:34:00.330 --> 00:34:02.520 Tommy DiMisa: Your job so look.

00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:08.220 Tommy DiMisa: I don't here's my bigger question, aside from the statistics and I have a quick comment, I want to make before we dive back in but.

00:34:08.550 --> 00:34:20.400 Tommy DiMisa: I don't understand why this is political i'm gonna be naive nicki up here in the attic I don't get it like we serious like you know I understand politics to some extent, but like we really worried about like going to fight over cats.

00:34:20.790 --> 00:34:21.060 Like.

00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:26.850 Tommy DiMisa: Why don't you let these people go help the cast you guys can answer that in a second I do want to make a quick shout out.

00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.380 Tommy DiMisa: We are a community of hosts here on on the network on talk radio dot nyc.

00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:44.610 Tommy DiMisa: Our buddy or Pal and the other side of the glass and leave, which made me a quick note here our friend and and other hosts here on the on the show Kevin barbro has talked about rocky's rescue, which is, which is a cat rescue.

00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:52.080 Tommy DiMisa: Kevin has a show here in the network called coffee talk XL and it's here on network 8pm on Tuesdays and.

00:34:52.590 --> 00:35:02.760 Tommy DiMisa: I don't know if you guys are familiar with rocky rescue but there's so many organizations out there i'm sure that that are trying to do this good work so let's talk to me again fill me in Tina filmy and bow I mean.

00:35:03.600 --> 00:35:21.270 tina traster: Let me, let me, let me give you a little bit of an overview here um I have no idea how many squirrels there are, but the aspca says that there are as many ferals as there are domesticated cats and they put that number around 90 million.

00:35:22.470 --> 00:35:23.340 Tommy DiMisa: that's in the US.

00:35:23.820 --> 00:35:28.080 tina traster: that's the number that's us that's the number that's you know that that's kind of widely.

00:35:28.140 --> 00:35:35.130 Tommy DiMisa: quoted, and we know we know not to be silly they're not taking a sentence, we understand that it's some sort of estimate, based on what we can figure out.

00:35:35.520 --> 00:35:37.470 tina traster: Well it's funny you say that about census.

00:35:37.470 --> 00:35:51.960 tina traster: Because well because, in certain cities that have taken 10 are very seriously um one of the things that they do is they do take a census, and they know where the colonies are so they track them so.

00:35:51.990 --> 00:35:52.890 tina traster: Since his.

00:35:52.920 --> 00:36:06.660 tina traster: Work actually does work, let me try to segue though into your other question which is it's a really good question like like why can't everybody just get on board with this and why, why is a political and wouldn't it seems counterintuitive right.

00:36:07.680 --> 00:36:08.730 tina traster: Okay well.

00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:18.300 tina traster: This is, this is what what i've learned both from making the film and from my own dive into activism on this front.

00:36:19.650 --> 00:36:32.610 tina traster: Firstly, first of all, first, like my man on the street that comes from where there's a lack of understanding about the whole matrix of Feral cats and where they fit in.

00:36:33.510 --> 00:36:43.320 tina traster: To to the responsibilities of a community, this is not only the lowest hanging fruit, but it is something that politicians.

00:36:44.310 --> 00:37:04.680 tina traster: don't want to deal with and when these situations arise, or they you know they they flame up over a particular situation in a town, the largest largely think that it is the stereotypical crazy cat lady who comes to complain about this and politicians don't seem to.

00:37:05.790 --> 00:37:18.450 tina traster: recognize that there's that you know that their constituencies may very much be made up of people who care about animals, as was learned in Hempstead.

00:37:19.980 --> 00:37:33.540 tina traster: Yes, the the you know the him said story is really a political drama of stanley's pain and how he redirected it and how he helped get the supervisor ousted.

00:37:34.020 --> 00:37:44.790 tina traster: help bring in a new one, who also turned out to be disappointing, but there's a scene in the film and not to give too much away, where you know Stanley says that he's he's in the.

00:37:45.570 --> 00:37:50.970 tina traster: What does he say the spin cycle, you know where he just feels like he, unfortunately.

00:37:51.840 --> 00:38:02.460 tina traster: Unlike to the other two stores your story does leave us with with most sense of hopelessness now here's the thing okay if if you can.

00:38:03.030 --> 00:38:14.730 tina traster: Get traction from the town supervisor from the village mayor from or even from a State Governor strictly on the basis of this being a humanitarian issue.

00:38:15.540 --> 00:38:28.590 tina traster: The truth of it is, is that good activism, that the opportunity for good activism when it comes to tanar and the Feral cat problem is actually to frame it and encourage it as a fiscal issue.

00:38:29.370 --> 00:38:37.530 tina traster: So let me, let me give you just a quick snapshot on what i'm talking about Okay, so you have to understand the whole.

00:38:38.940 --> 00:38:45.150 tina traster: ecosystem of how towns deal with their animals so typically there is a there's a there's a shelter.

00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:56.010 tina traster: shelters are, as we know, they're overcrowded their their dilapidated shelters and ended up themselves and many towns like yours Valerie like mine.

00:38:56.250 --> 00:39:03.720 tina traster: That they that in and of themselves are a problem, but unfortunately they have also have to be part of the solution to make tea in our work.

00:39:04.170 --> 00:39:16.020 tina traster: as do the animal control officers, so we have to be enlightened about tmr, as does the activists who have to be sophisticated enough to work with the town officials.

00:39:16.530 --> 00:39:33.360 tina traster: As does you know what you need is buying from the population to solve this problem kind of universally town by town, but for town supervisors, or for people who are dealing with the fiscal side okay.

00:39:34.710 --> 00:39:45.930 tina traster: Is what the question becomes, what is the best way to use tax dollars here if you put it into neutering in Spain, which is penny.

00:39:47.010 --> 00:39:58.050 tina traster: Okay, for any expenditure, it is, it is his pocket change you reduce the populations in shelters you reduce the problem on the ground.

00:39:59.490 --> 00:40:10.890 tina traster: And you, you know take away the need for any kind of euthanizing cats which which most people do not have an appetite for.

00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:21.210 tina traster: So what town mayors and supervisors understand is that they're caught between a rock and a hard place they don't want to they don't want to be the people who have blessed.

00:40:22.020 --> 00:40:34.290 tina traster: mask euthanasia and ferals by and large don't don't survive in shelters because they're not adoptable so smart i'm.

00:40:35.190 --> 00:40:47.010 tina traster: You know, small town leader smart municipal leaders when they look if they're presented with you know the numbers, they will understand that the small investment.

00:40:47.970 --> 00:41:03.120 tina traster: To back to in our to get low cost spay neuter done is actually a very smart fiscal decision because in many towns like my own, it is in fact the town that is supporting the shelter.

00:41:03.540 --> 00:41:10.500 Valerie Heffron: And he should also interject on this just because i'm so well versed now after four and a half years.

00:41:10.770 --> 00:41:24.180 Valerie Heffron: of attending board meetings watching every single board meeting having rapport with some electric fish elected officials they're both prior and present and it's money Tommy in my humble opinion, and.

00:41:24.210 --> 00:41:27.390 Valerie Heffron: The talent we're talking about that sailing Lombardo is from.

00:41:27.930 --> 00:41:33.030 Valerie Heffron: Its its political because they have a five and a half million dollar shelter.

00:41:33.120 --> 00:41:42.420 Valerie Heffron: Their annual budget Okay, this is not a little rinky Dink shelter five and a half million dollar annual budget four and a half million goes to payroll.

00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:50.580 Valerie Heffron: Okay it's not going to be animals, and let me make this case also when Stanley Lombardo had this political falling out.

00:41:51.060 --> 00:41:57.660 Valerie Heffron: He had it with the then Supervisor, who he was like a right hand guy to.

00:41:58.020 --> 00:42:08.550 Valerie Heffron: He was involved with this guy he was part of the same political campaign they live like two blocks away from each other, they went to all their weekly.

00:42:08.910 --> 00:42:16.620 Valerie Heffron: You know, mandatory club club meetings and all of this, he helped him get elected, he helped them get reelected you sold tickets to as fundraisers.

00:42:16.620 --> 00:42:17.490 Tommy DiMisa: Nearly do this.

00:42:18.120 --> 00:42:24.150 Valerie Heffron: So when they have yes and so that that was political definitely but even if there wasn't bad.

00:42:25.140 --> 00:42:28.650 Valerie Heffron: Politicians they use.

00:42:29.190 --> 00:42:49.950 Valerie Heffron: Things like shelters, to give jobs to their political friends and family that is a fact, instead of the jobs going to people who love animals, people who have certifications to care for animals, people who you know are truly qualified experts, they give it to you know their.

00:42:49.980 --> 00:42:53.160 Valerie Heffron: Their receptionist roadies correct.

00:42:53.190 --> 00:42:54.060 Valerie Heffron: chrome isn't.

00:42:54.150 --> 00:42:57.390 Valerie Heffron: Yes, and that is one of the reasons we got behind.

00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:05.340 Valerie Heffron: Then opponent than the opponent, because she called it out, she stood in front of the shelter she talked about abuse patronage hires.

00:43:05.640 --> 00:43:14.880 Valerie Heffron: And then, when she got elected it turned out, she was just using the animal vote to get elected because animal lovers don't care about party lines you know and.

00:43:15.420 --> 00:43:30.090 Valerie Heffron: that that was a true horror show once she got elected, but guess what her opponent, when he was on his campaign trail did the same exact thing and then he won and guess what's going to happen this November.

00:43:33.450 --> 00:43:42.600 Tommy DiMisa: So, so it sounds like the shelter is you know it's part of the whole structure and especially with that kind of you know, the dollars you're talking about right there.

00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:56.400 Tommy DiMisa: At your earlier point there Tina is we eliminate the need for the shelter but, honestly, it sounds like that's not good for insert county name, you know that's not good for that Community because it's jobs right, so there might.

00:43:57.210 --> 00:44:08.310 tina traster: yeah until you have a shelter, like the one up here in rockland county high tour with then there's literally imploding that has recently had the da rate it.

00:44:10.650 --> 00:44:12.630 tina traster: For something I have nobody even.

00:44:13.620 --> 00:44:19.050 Tommy DiMisa: Voting imploding because they have such massive animals in there and they don't have the capacity.

00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:41.100 tina traster: That they can't manage they can't manage the load and and controlling the Feral population is one piece of making the animal ECO you know ecosphere more manageable, which is why in places where this works everybody is working together.

00:44:41.370 --> 00:44:42.510 Valerie Heffron: Right we're gonna.

00:44:43.380 --> 00:44:45.510 Valerie Heffron: we're going to revisit that we've gotta go to break.

00:44:45.630 --> 00:44:49.020 Tommy DiMisa: When we come back though let's I want to know where it works, because obviously you, you have.

00:44:49.080 --> 00:44:53.190 Tommy DiMisa: Experienced where it is happening working so yeah let's talk about that i'll take us away.

00:44:54.150 --> 00:44:56.670 Valerie Heffron: Okay we're gonna go to break this is the palace show.

00:44:58.560 --> 00:44:59.610 Valerie Heffron: how's that yeah.

00:47:00.030 --> 00:47:03.210 Valerie Heffron: Okay that's my awesome theme song our sorry.

00:47:04.620 --> 00:47:12.990 Valerie Heffron: We are back and I just want to revisit this one issue one second I were talking about you know political.

00:47:14.340 --> 00:47:18.450 Valerie Heffron: intricacies of animal welfare, but regarding shelters, I mean look.

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:30.720 Valerie Heffron: You bring in the experts, as opposed to giving out, you know political favors for for important crucial jobs i'm not talking about Secretary i'm talking about people that interact with the animals.

00:47:31.500 --> 00:47:39.030 Valerie Heffron: you'll see a world of difference and i'll give you one example, this woman young lady 22 years old law student from hofstra.

00:47:39.660 --> 00:47:47.550 Valerie Heffron: She she learned recently within the last two years or so, about GNR and trapping and she personally.

00:47:48.240 --> 00:48:04.860 Valerie Heffron: Did 90 cats and kittens last year, plus she fosters and helps them get adopted so if she can what one person and Tommy you want to talk fast, I mean look one female cat can start reproducing as early as four to six months.

00:48:05.250 --> 00:48:05.490 and

00:48:06.570 --> 00:48:07.920 Tommy DiMisa: four to six months of age.

00:48:08.100 --> 00:48:26.190 Valerie Heffron: Correct and they can have anywhere from two to let's say eight kittens the average letter is probably around five, but they can have three to four liters a year and how many baby girls are they having that that it's exponential.

00:48:26.220 --> 00:48:30.240 Tommy DiMisa: All right, take it out five a pop and then that's to get up in three to four times a year.

00:48:30.810 --> 00:48:32.280 Valerie Heffron: yeah that's one path.

00:48:32.580 --> 00:48:33.420 Tommy DiMisa: That could be 20.

00:48:34.050 --> 00:48:41.550 tina traster: that's right and then and then think about that Okay, then the the 25 cats that they produce.

00:48:43.200 --> 00:48:49.260 tina traster: Okay reach an age of six six months to a year and then the cycle is because.

00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:50.580 Tommy DiMisa: I don't even know.

00:48:50.670 --> 00:48:54.690 Tommy DiMisa: What they shouldn't be saying about rabbits it sounds like that show is more about cats.

00:48:57.180 --> 00:49:00.780 tina traster: It really that's the whole problem with cats in the wild.

00:49:01.110 --> 00:49:02.820 tina traster: yeah they go unchecked.

00:49:03.060 --> 00:49:03.420 Valerie Heffron: Right.

00:49:03.510 --> 00:49:05.040 tina traster: If they reproduce.

00:49:05.160 --> 00:49:12.480 Valerie Heffron: you're going to have a big problem very quickly, I experienced this my own backyard, there was a mother cat we tried to trap i'm not a very good job.

00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:25.710 Valerie Heffron: We tried to trap her on her own she had to well she had to kittens that we saw that survived who knows that's another thing you really don't want you know these kittens in your backyard they're subject to attack raccoons.

00:49:26.340 --> 00:49:31.620 Valerie Heffron: Get hit by a car, they hide under your Hood in the winters anyway on.

00:49:31.710 --> 00:49:34.920 Valerie Heffron: Under the hood yeah yeah the tail types.

00:49:35.820 --> 00:49:41.040 tina traster: And a lot of them are often killed because somebody turns on the car and they don't know that there's an animal in there.

00:49:41.220 --> 00:49:52.440 Valerie Heffron: yeah it's horrible so so we want to get them off the streets, we want to solve the problem, and you know that's that one cat in my backyard ended up getting pregnant again and we finally border but.

00:49:52.710 --> 00:50:06.630 Valerie Heffron: During that time that we're trying to catch her we end up catching like 12 to 14 other cats and kittens and a raccoon and it was absurd my whole neighborhood was you know, had problem but.

00:50:06.900 --> 00:50:13.710 Valerie Heffron: Tina before we forget I do want to I know you wanted to highlight a few a couple of different rescues.

00:50:13.950 --> 00:50:16.710 tina traster: yeah I mean the first the frustrating thing is that.

00:50:18.270 --> 00:50:30.000 tina traster: Is that it's it seems so difficult to elevate this into a national conversation yeah you know curtis Lee What if you're listening to this broadcast you're running for Mayor of New York City.

00:50:30.420 --> 00:50:46.860 tina traster: Oh, I know they love cats, in fact, I met you at cat cam many years ago, we talked about cats and we both grew up in canarsie so curtis, we need a big voice, we need a person with a big megaphone you know we we.

00:50:46.890 --> 00:50:56.550 tina traster: Yes, we've screened we've done about 10 film festival, so far, maybe, maybe doesn't and we did one recently down in new hope Pennsylvania.

00:50:57.060 --> 00:51:06.360 tina traster: And, as always, the audience was filled with you know Gray haired people who've been doing this, you understand that there were maybe 30 maybe 40 people that Monday night.

00:51:06.870 --> 00:51:15.870 tina traster: But there was one young woman, there was 22 and she was sitting behind my husband, who was who was in the audience watching the film.

00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:24.120 tina traster: And she was weeping through a lot of the the the film and when it was over 22 years old, she said.

00:51:24.900 --> 00:51:28.740 tina traster: i'm going to start volunteering in a in a shelter an animal shelter.

00:51:29.160 --> 00:51:42.000 tina traster: The problem that we have is with this issue is that we have not been able to elevate this into a national conversation the younger generation our very woke generation.

00:51:42.600 --> 00:51:49.380 tina traster: That is so hell bent on on fixing the problems of the world, this this problems, not on their radar.

00:51:50.100 --> 00:52:09.180 tina traster: And I would say that you know what i've learned in the last five years is this is the disconnect because if until we can get a younger generation to do what they do so well, which is make things go viral make things hit make things work make things important make them, you know.

00:52:10.560 --> 00:52:16.590 tina traster: highlight the things that are important in a way that our generation, we have limited tools compared to.

00:52:16.620 --> 00:52:25.680 Tommy DiMisa: to that generation, why do you think it's not as attractive to younger people why have you not been evil and again this isn't tina's problem, this is a whole global situation.

00:52:25.680 --> 00:52:34.380 tina traster: Young young, for one thing okay so younger people are generally unless they've got a parent or somebody who they know who's taking care of ferals.

00:52:34.740 --> 00:52:44.430 tina traster: they're living at home they're living at college they're there you know again they're just they don't see them right they don't see this problem.

00:52:44.790 --> 00:52:54.420 tina traster: And it's just not on their radar and when when you know what they do see are no, you know, create they'd see cat videos and they see all this pull stuff.

00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:55.260 Valerie Heffron: Out of.

00:52:56.460 --> 00:52:57.210 Valerie Heffron: acute stuff.

00:52:57.300 --> 00:53:00.120 tina traster: The cute stuff but they don't see this underbelly.

00:53:00.930 --> 00:53:18.090 tina traster: And it's just it's it's like we need a network of ambassadors, or we need you know celebrities I need Ellen degeneres was also an animal lover if she's still on TV I don't know but, but you need the big voices to take this as seriously as as we do so many other issues.

00:53:18.270 --> 00:53:19.530 Valerie Heffron: yeah ricky jury as.

00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:35.400 Valerie Heffron: Well, you know, I have a few thoughts on this, I definitely will will sidebar with you on it um, but I also, I will say I really wholeheartedly do believe that if that younger generation did understand and have the awareness that they would care and they would.

00:53:35.730 --> 00:53:38.370 Valerie Heffron: attempt to change as well, so.

00:53:38.460 --> 00:53:39.030 Tommy DiMisa: So let me.

00:53:39.180 --> 00:53:43.830 Tommy DiMisa: Let me ask you some sorry to cut you off because we're running out of time already going, I just want to ask you this real quick because.

00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:51.900 Tommy DiMisa: I would love to look you're part of our Community now Tina This is just one show one day, but this doesn't go away, so we can always come back to these things and.

00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:59.820 Tommy DiMisa: But and talk and figure out how to fix this but are there anybody any organizations either Valerie from your experience on long island or in rocklin that we should call out.

00:53:59.940 --> 00:54:01.980 Tommy DiMisa: Because if I if I run through this up.

00:54:03.300 --> 00:54:04.800 Tommy DiMisa: bunch of cats, who do I.

00:54:04.860 --> 00:54:05.550 Valerie Heffron: What do you do.

00:54:07.140 --> 00:54:12.720 tina traster: So so so here's the thing I am going to give a shout out to three organizations.

00:54:13.530 --> 00:54:15.780 Valerie Heffron: One minute each because we have to sorry we have.

00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:17.250 tina traster: Okay yeah i'm going to give a shout out.

00:54:18.270 --> 00:54:24.720 tina traster: But the answer to that question is, is that you have to generally find a local rescue group that's doing dnr to.

00:54:25.080 --> 00:54:32.700 tina traster: seek help, I want to just give a call out to calling all cat sanctuary down in southern New Jersey, which took the the.

00:54:33.180 --> 00:54:45.870 tina traster: The boardwalk cats in they took in 60 cats and have given them a life better than they ever could have imagined, I also want to give a shout out to friends of felines of wichita Kansas.

00:54:46.620 --> 00:54:56.100 tina traster: That helped us understand the problem out there and Kansas, and that has been supportive of the film and that does great work, and I want to give a call, because this is closest to my heart to.

00:54:56.640 --> 00:55:03.030 tina traster: A local group here called four legs good, which is an organization that is kind of a.

00:55:03.810 --> 00:55:15.900 tina traster: started sort of ragtag but it's really been building itself, and it is so dedicated and in the in the case of four legs good is that it is an army of young people who are you know.

00:55:16.410 --> 00:55:26.490 tina traster: ensconced in the animal world and who have so much dedication and so much grip and one, at a time 10 at a time, they have been rescuing the ferals they have been.

00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:36.930 tina traster: Forced getting foster's to the barrels and they've been adopting so it's the whole chain that's needed, you can have any of these in a vacuum it's a great it's.

00:55:36.990 --> 00:55:38.130 tina traster: Like a necklace it's a.

00:55:38.130 --> 00:55:39.480 Valerie Heffron: Network it's a network.

00:55:39.660 --> 00:55:41.160 tina traster: it's all work together.

00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:53.190 Valerie Heffron: Right so Tom and Lisa if that ever happens to you, I would recommend tlc they're located in long island tender loving cats, I could put you also in touch with someone actually I believe one of them is going to be one of our guests coming up.

00:55:53.550 --> 00:56:11.880 Valerie Heffron: Speaking of coming up guest next week is wonderful attorney heather waltz be located in St Augustine Florida she's a trust in the States lawyer and he single handedly fostered throughout coven over 40 cats and kittens and got them all adopted she is a diva in this world.

00:56:12.090 --> 00:56:14.640 Tommy DiMisa: I know we're gonna get a curse but that's bad ass he asked me about.

00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:24.300 Valerie Heffron: yeah it is it really is, and I got to meet a couple of them completely adorable but anyway so Tommy to me so i'm gonna take us out and Tina, thank you for.

00:56:24.300 --> 00:56:29.400 Tommy DiMisa: Everything before we go to you know where do so if somebody wants to see the film find out about the film Where do they go.

00:56:29.910 --> 00:56:49.590 tina traster: Okay, so we're playing on Amazon and apple and to be bunch of platforms visit our site www cash foundation COM, you can buy a DVD if you're not one of the first 10 to click and you can send us a message and but Amazon Amazon it's the film's on Amazon.

00:56:49.830 --> 00:56:59.070 Tommy DiMisa: Thank you, thank you for being here Tina listen you're part of our Community now stay with us via Facebook, the whole thing will keep this conversation going that's what Valerie and I you create this platform.

00:56:59.700 --> 00:57:00.840 Valerie Heffron: While we need you.

00:57:00.930 --> 00:57:08.310 Tommy DiMisa: Apparently curtis Lee what we need you, I need one of those red berries you rock out so i'll get you if you get on the show I can read Bray this deal all right listen.

00:57:09.420 --> 00:57:14.220 Tommy DiMisa: You know pals professionals and i'm loving show each Wednesday we're here at 2pm and then follow us on Facebook.

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00:57:23.580 --> 00:57:33.240 Tommy DiMisa: P E a l dash that's a shout out to our boy joby Tina We appreciate you appreciate the hard work you're doing and I look forward to connecting get about making a great day.

00:57:33.270 --> 00:57:35.610 Tommy DiMisa: Everybody will see you soon all right, thank you.

00:57:36.090 --> 00:57:36.810 Thank you Tina.

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