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Extra Innings

Monday, April 5, 2021
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Facebook Live Video from 2021/04/05 - Cast and Crew Reunite!

 
Facebook Live Video from 2021/04/05 - Cast and Crew Reunite!

 

2021/04/05 - Cast and Crew Reunite!

[NEW EPISODE] Cast and Crew Reunite!

With Actor Alex Walton & Producer Brian Drillenger

Brian Drillenger is an actor and producer, known for Back to the Wall (2018), Extra Innings (2019) and How to Go Out on a Date in Queens (2006). He worked with Albert as co-producer and co-director on Extra Innings.


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Show Notes

Segment 1

Albert begins the segment by discussing the origin of Extra Innings explaining that it originates from a film that he wrote, directed and acted in. The film was also titled Extra Innings. The two guests Alex Walton and Brian Drillenger are then introduced. After the introduction, Brian begins to discuss their relationship. Brian was casted as the father in the film. The two were colleagues while working on the film and also met in acting class. Eventually, Brian was offered to become a co-producer on Extra Innings thanks to their great chemistry while doing acting exercises in class. Alex first got drawn to Extra Innings thanks to his love for baseball and acting. He auditioned for the role of David who is a great baseball player. Alex explains how warm the environment was while auditioning which was a pleasant change. Later, they bonded while playing baseball. The two also bonded over how they view baseball as an escape along with their love for the sport. In addition, Brian talks about how he began his journey as an actor then became a producer later in his career.

Segment 2

After the break, Brian further elaborates on what it is like to co-direct. He discusses the positive relationship between Albert and himself stating that they both had different ideas to offer. Albert was always open to suggestions. The two brought the best out of each other through collaboration and compromise. Brian did specifically well directing scenes that Albert was acting in. The tandem’s work resulted in Alex winning the Best Actor Award at the Jersey Shore Film Festival. For a low budget film, the result was spectacular. Even without an abundance of funds, the sets were beautiful and all of the props were acquired and utilized perfectly. Furthermore, Albert admits how great the crew was even though not all of them were baseball experts. Even though everyone was not knowledgeable about the sport, the cast and crew were still able to come together to produce an amazing product.

Segment 3

In this segment, Albert asks Alex whether he was self conscious of playing baseball on set or not. Alex admits that he was not nervous due to his knowledge of the sport along with everyone else’s lack of knowledge. He prides himself on being a good player. Next, they discuss his character’s love interest named Simone and their relationship. She helped make him feel more comfortable and pull him out of his shell. Another aspect of the film that was mentioned is the cinematography. The cinematographer's name was Luigi who was lugging around heavy equipment on set the majority of the time but still was able to capture some beautiful shots. He is described as a hilarious and hardworking guy from Italy. Afterwards, the topic of mental health was introduced. Alex loves the fact that this movie brings up this topic because it is really important. It may be scary but must be discussed. The brother, sister relationship within the film really brings that out. Alex’s brother Robbie plays an introverted character who does not always use words to depict his feelings which is a big difference compared to his sister. After that, Albert explains how important it is to remember that when an individual is going through a problem that they are not alone and others are also going through something similar. Many people with mental health issues believe that they are alone when that is not the case.

Segment 4

Lastly, Albert further discusses his love for the crew because the crew creates the characters. Everyone worked as hard as they could on the film. Brian thanks Albert for the energy that he brought which allowed everyone else to be the best they could be. It was breathtaking for them to see his real life situations be recreated in the film. Alex elaborates by saying how great it was to work with Albert due to his understanding and lack of ego. In addition, Albert discusses the perspective of people who are casting roles as well as the perspective of those who are auditioning. Many believe they know what they are looking for but in reality it is not that simple. The casting crew may have a definite idea of what they want but if someone portrays that idea well in a different way then it will be embraced. Not everything will end the way it is expected to end because of the process along with the learning and maturation that takes place.


Transcript

00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:41.280 Albert Dabah: hi there.

00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:45.180 Albert Dabah: I am a life coach therapist and film producer.

00:00:45.810 --> 00:01:00.900 Albert Dabah: Welcome to the show extra innings covering all the bases on extra innings we deal with subjects like mental health, family mental illness depression different challenges that people face.

00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:15.570 Albert Dabah: On tonight's show we will be having two very talented guys one is Brian drill injure and the other is Alex walton.

00:01:17.430 --> 00:01:31.590 Albert Dabah: i'll tell you about them in a moment, I would like to first say that extra innings actually came from a film that I produced directed wrote and acted in as well extra innings can be seen on Amazon prime.

00:01:32.700 --> 00:01:33.300 Albert Dabah: So.

00:01:34.710 --> 00:01:37.890 Albert Dabah: First let's start with Brian Ryan.

00:01:40.050 --> 00:01:53.160 Albert Dabah: he'll tell you himself what he does he does many things, but one of the things that he's worked on with me and on on the film was actually doing a little bit of co writing right before the film, as well as being a.

00:01:53.820 --> 00:01:59.610 Albert Dabah: Co director, but he's also an actor and he's been involved in the arts for many years.

00:02:01.470 --> 00:02:12.510 Albert Dabah: Alex as well played the character based extra innings is based on a true story my true story of my family growing up in the 16th and Alex played my character.

00:02:12.930 --> 00:02:26.850 Albert Dabah: of a young man of about 18 years old well first we'll start with Brian so Brian how are you tonight tell us a little bit about how we know each other, and you know where you're at right now.

00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.420 Brian Drillinger: Well, right now, I am a little.

00:02:31.950 --> 00:02:34.140 Brian Drillinger: overwhelmed by that intro thing that.

00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:41.580 Brian Drillinger: Flying through the cosmos and i'm still trying to figure out if i'm part of the stars, or what.

00:02:41.790 --> 00:02:43.260 Albert Dabah: You were alive place yeah.

00:02:45.990 --> 00:02:48.000 Brian Drillinger: um so.

00:02:49.890 --> 00:02:51.390 Brian Drillinger: Albert and I.

00:02:53.610 --> 00:02:54.630 Brian Drillinger: connected.

00:02:56.460 --> 00:03:07.740 Brian Drillinger: a while back and became friends and Albert shared with me about this great project and i've just always been very supportive of it and.

00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:15.090 Brian Drillinger: When it came down to the is this answering the question when I came when it came down to.

00:03:16.140 --> 00:03:17.520 Brian Drillinger: Casting and we.

00:03:19.170 --> 00:03:24.570 Brian Drillinger: He was going through different possibilities he realized that.

00:03:25.980 --> 00:03:40.920 Brian Drillinger: The role of the father was something he was very passionate about, and so in realizing that he wanted to play that part he decided that it wasn't such a great idea to direct himself in it and.

00:03:42.120 --> 00:04:01.140 Brian Drillinger: He contacted me and i'd always this has been a while that I was familiar with the project and was very supportive of it as an outsider But then when he came to me and asked me to co direct with him, I was very.

00:04:02.370 --> 00:04:04.590 Brian Drillinger: honored and thrilled and.

00:04:06.090 --> 00:04:10.830 Brian Drillinger: i'm happy to to get on board.

00:04:13.650 --> 00:04:14.730 Brian Drillinger: It it is.

00:04:16.650 --> 00:04:19.800 Brian Drillinger: A beautiful beautiful piece that we wound up.

00:04:20.970 --> 00:04:22.740 Brian Drillinger: Creating and.

00:04:24.150 --> 00:04:25.830 Brian Drillinger: i'm just glad to be a part of it.

00:04:27.330 --> 00:04:37.200 Albert Dabah: Great great great well um I just want to throw in here real quickly that Ryan, and I met an acting class many years ago at with Terry Schreiber.

00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:45.930 Albert Dabah: As I remember it was my first scene, that I didn't class and and Brian and I were picked to play a scene from an author Miller.

00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:59.310 Albert Dabah: play called the price and from again my memory Jerry usually had people do scenes two or three times and he had us do it, I would say, I think, somewhere like four times, it was.

00:04:59.340 --> 00:05:00.540 Brian Drillinger: Not because we were bad.

00:05:01.320 --> 00:05:04.260 Albert Dabah: Not because we're bad no I think it's because we were good.

00:05:04.590 --> 00:05:06.330 Brian Drillinger: I think, because we were good, in fact.

00:05:06.330 --> 00:05:12.870 Brian Drillinger: He he had us do more scenes from the plane, because he was really enjoying what we were doing yeah.

00:05:12.900 --> 00:05:14.490 Brian Drillinger: cuz you and I really connected.

00:05:14.760 --> 00:05:30.780 Albert Dabah: yeah we've been late for others in the in the price there's two brothers get together after their fire their father died and cleaning up the attic and I remember, we did this little improv beforehand throwing the football around and a ball getting you know it was really, really fun.

00:05:31.260 --> 00:05:48.030 Brian Drillinger: Well, I, I believe, you said that the reason you asked me to come on board with extra innings as a co director was because of the different exercises we used to do right in preparation for for the scene and terry's class and.

00:05:49.170 --> 00:05:52.620 Brian Drillinger: I kept throwing out these different exercises that you were just loving.

00:05:52.950 --> 00:05:56.130 Albert Dabah: Right well and i'll throw in here that one of the things i'm Brian.

00:05:57.450 --> 00:06:04.410 Albert Dabah: Brian new yorker but he moved to La and he taught actors, he worked with actors there's an acting coach and.

00:06:05.850 --> 00:06:22.950 Albert Dabah: He had all these great different exercises, we would do we did them in my studio and we sang the scene, the scene, we did all kinds of strange things and I love that and I thought that's why it would be great to bring him on when I thought of playing the father so.

00:06:24.570 --> 00:06:25.080 Albert Dabah: let's move.

00:06:25.410 --> 00:06:29.670 Brian Drillinger: He thought I had all this great background and like Strasburg and Stanislaw ski.

00:06:29.910 --> 00:06:33.870 Brian Drillinger: What do you didn't know was that I was just making it up on the fly and we.

00:06:33.870 --> 00:06:34.710 Albert Dabah: Just okay.

00:06:34.770 --> 00:06:39.540 Brian Drillinger: I say okay now we're gonna hop on one foot do the do the scene and and now we're gonna.

00:06:40.950 --> 00:06:41.460 Albert Dabah: work.

00:06:41.670 --> 00:06:42.540 Look at I say.

00:06:44.010 --> 00:06:46.110 Albert Dabah: So Alex how are you doing tonight.

00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:50.310 Alex Walton: i'm good it's opening day, especially for the math so.

00:06:50.760 --> 00:06:52.950 Albert Dabah: Oh he's a met fan I forgot.

00:06:53.400 --> 00:06:55.080 Albert Dabah: Can we get him off the show, can we.

00:06:57.210 --> 00:06:59.640 Alex Walton: got we got we got coded cancel the weekend.

00:06:59.670 --> 00:07:02.880 Albert Dabah: that's right you guys well actually it was the other team right.

00:07:03.990 --> 00:07:04.410 Alex Walton: yeah.

00:07:05.220 --> 00:07:06.660 Alex Walton: yeah but i'm good.

00:07:06.930 --> 00:07:08.130 Albert Dabah: Did they play they play.

00:07:08.640 --> 00:07:11.250 Alex Walton: They play they play seven okay.

00:07:12.510 --> 00:07:18.060 Albert Dabah: Right so tell us tell us that healthy audience about yourself a little bit how you got involved with extra innings.

00:07:18.270 --> 00:07:24.360 Alex Walton: yeah i'm i'm an actor person from New York City.

00:07:26.130 --> 00:07:35.730 Alex Walton: I how I got involved with extra innings was pretty cool I found the other shown backstage actually and, like the breakdown of David.

00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:47.070 Alex Walton: just spoke to me I played baseball my whole life I love baseball and acting like more than anything in the world, so any chance to combine those two.

00:07:47.730 --> 00:07:54.990 Alex Walton: outlets for me was always a dream of mine and i'd never really you know there's like damn Yankees the musical there's stuff like that, but like.

00:07:56.070 --> 00:08:07.260 Alex Walton: This specific project just you know and the breakdown of david's character, specifically just just spoke to me, he was like I forgot the exact breakdown with something like shy, and you know.

00:08:08.910 --> 00:08:15.210 Alex Walton: visual like like sees the world doesn't speak so much I don't remember the exact breakdown Albert i'm sorry but um.

00:08:16.080 --> 00:08:27.750 Alex Walton: yeah and then I don't know when I when I went in for the audition it was just it just felt right and it was you know, had a lot of auditions here in New York, as I, as I.

00:08:28.950 --> 00:08:39.510 Alex Walton: began my career and then sometimes you know you don't even get a look in the eye you don't even get a you don't even get you know, a warm welcome at all and it's sometimes can feel very.

00:08:40.530 --> 00:08:49.260 Alex Walton: Bad and I just was the opposite of the room that Albert lead and was very relaxed and conversational and.

00:08:50.160 --> 00:09:05.280 Alex Walton: It just felt right and eventually me and Albert went out and played some baseball and and I, and I got the part and it was a it was my first feature film and I learned I learned so much and i'm very grateful for it.

00:09:06.090 --> 00:09:13.590 Brian Drillinger: Well, that was part of the breakdown was good ballplayer and Alex definitely is an excellent.

00:09:13.890 --> 00:09:15.960 Brian Drillinger: ballplayer so thank you very much.

00:09:15.990 --> 00:09:17.550 Albert Dabah: yeah yeah no I.

00:09:18.630 --> 00:09:19.170 Albert Dabah: When.

00:09:20.940 --> 00:09:25.260 Albert Dabah: i'll never forget this when I was casting it with Juliet who was.

00:09:26.550 --> 00:09:35.190 Albert Dabah: The one who was work with me on the casting and one of the producers and as well, who was with me from the beginning and.

00:09:36.330 --> 00:09:45.150 Albert Dabah: You came in twice for an audition I remember, and we, like, I remember the first time she looked at me like kind of winked at me and she goes.

00:09:45.600 --> 00:10:01.560 Albert Dabah: We have our David and then we had you come in a second time, and you had a growth beard and there was something that look different like we we look at each other, why is it looks so much older and then we realized, it was you know you hadn't shaved.

00:10:02.160 --> 00:10:03.540 Alex Walton: Italian means you know.

00:10:06.810 --> 00:10:09.510 Albert Dabah: But anyway, then we went to the batting cage.

00:10:10.050 --> 00:10:14.040 Albert Dabah: And I mean he told me he played baseball on a regular basis and.

00:10:14.040 --> 00:10:17.910 Albert Dabah: Central park I don't know if you can hear that we got some music here in Jersey.

00:10:17.910 --> 00:10:20.760 Albert Dabah: city um anyway and.

00:10:23.190 --> 00:10:32.550 Albert Dabah: I mean Alex just looks like a ballplayer and and I had addition some other people who you know just didn't even look like a ballplayer so as he took just.

00:10:33.030 --> 00:10:37.290 Albert Dabah: One swing of the BAT in the batting cage and I know he was a ballplayer.

00:10:37.680 --> 00:10:49.320 Albert Dabah: But you know he's want you know, there was we had you know many pitches and great hitter and then we went to the baseball field, remember that, and I remember, we had a nice talk, it was a good 1015 minute walk to the baseball field.

00:10:49.860 --> 00:10:56.940 Albert Dabah: And I just saw he was a ballplayer and he was an actor and I said we got him, you know and it felt so good, because.

00:10:57.930 --> 00:11:05.250 Albert Dabah: You know, for me the character had to be a really good baseball player, I mean and and.

00:11:05.940 --> 00:11:20.190 Albert Dabah: that's one of the things that people tell me a lot when they see the film is they feel the reality of it, and I remember there's a catchy making the film, that is just an excellent catch and I just said wow that that was terrific.

00:11:21.570 --> 00:11:31.980 Alex Walton: I, I think we really connected with the way we viewed and view baseball as an escape as David says in the movie it's just.

00:11:33.210 --> 00:11:40.020 Alex Walton: A place to go and drown out everything else, and I thought that was my my secret place growing up, and I think it was.

00:11:40.410 --> 00:11:46.320 Albert Dabah: yeah for sure, so what was it like let me ask you the good guys, the question.

00:11:49.140 --> 00:12:05.940 Albert Dabah: Brian What was it like for you, because I think a lot of people might be interested in filmmaking what's it like to co direct with someone and then Alex you can say what's it like to be directed by two different people so Ryan yeah.

00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:13.620 Brian Drillinger: Well, I actually first one to say that um you know I I did start out as an actor and then.

00:12:14.700 --> 00:12:19.920 Brian Drillinger: got involved with producing and directing.

00:12:21.270 --> 00:12:23.520 Brian Drillinger: I have a partner that I work with.

00:12:24.540 --> 00:12:41.940 Brian Drillinger: We started out producing plays and then we we did a short film that won an award and then we started doing features and we've actually done five features and my input.

00:12:43.170 --> 00:13:00.060 Brian Drillinger: has always been on the creative end because i'm really not a producer um I mean i've learned what is involved with being a producer and actually for people out there that the term producer is.

00:13:01.290 --> 00:13:07.560 Brian Drillinger: Is is not a very defined term, it can mean many things and.

00:13:08.610 --> 00:13:09.060 Brian Drillinger: But.

00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:25.860 Brian Drillinger: Of the and i've known my producing partner for many years and in all those projects um you know she never wanted to share the directing credit that was her thing you know and.

00:13:27.630 --> 00:13:47.130 Brian Drillinger: And, understandably, because she really made a lot of these things happen, ironically, like the job of a producer but i'm uh I bring this up only because i'm you know, Albert for you to offer me the Co directing.

00:13:48.270 --> 00:13:58.530 Brian Drillinger: position, a really meant a lot to me because i'm not a producer and people come up to me all the time and ask me questions about producing.

00:14:00.930 --> 00:14:10.950 Brian Drillinger: Not my main thrust um It really is more on the creative end so on for you to do that i'm.

00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:18.000 Brian Drillinger: really meant a lot um to answer your question um.

00:14:19.410 --> 00:14:39.030 Brian Drillinger: Because I I kind of have been in the role of a Co producer with my other partner for many years, even though not getting that title um it's a it's a difficult process, but I think also i'm.

00:14:41.460 --> 00:14:52.260 Brian Drillinger: a wonderful process because i'm being a director, as you know, Albert um can be a very lonely and.

00:14:53.190 --> 00:15:14.460 Brian Drillinger: pressured position on it's like the captain of the ship and everybody is expecting you to have the answer and to you know think ahead five steps in the process and it's some and the pressure is on especially once production begins.

00:15:14.820 --> 00:15:15.480 Brian Drillinger: The clock is.

00:15:15.510 --> 00:15:22.260 Brian Drillinger: ticking the money is going out it there's no like can we pause and take a break here.

00:15:22.710 --> 00:15:23.490 Brian Drillinger: Right um.

00:15:23.610 --> 00:15:28.470 Albert Dabah: And Brian just on that note i'm sorry, but we have to pause and take a break here.

00:15:32.040 --> 00:15:42.090 Albert Dabah: So we'll come back and pick it up and then we'll go back to Alex on the same question so stay tuned and thank you guys, for being here tonight we'll be right back you.

00:18:38.250 --> 00:18:47.010 Albert Dabah: hi there we're back with Brian drill injure and Alex walton so Brian continue on where we where you left off.

00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.310 Brian Drillinger: Well, it all began, I.

00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:55.470 Brian Drillinger: know you had asked me about what it's like to co direct.

00:18:55.830 --> 00:19:01.590 Brian Drillinger: Right, and I think it's it's I think it was great I think that.

00:19:02.910 --> 00:19:16.740 Brian Drillinger: uh you know you and I got along well in a very high pressured situation um I remember some comments from crew people or something.

00:19:17.280 --> 00:19:27.300 Brian Drillinger: You know, concerned about the concept of co directing and but I thought we were able to always talk things out and, at the end of the day, I always defer to you.

00:19:28.020 --> 00:19:38.040 Brian Drillinger: And a lot of times you did take the advice that I was giving you and then other times you said no, I really want to try it this way, and you will right.

00:19:38.580 --> 00:19:51.480 Brian Drillinger: And I think it worked for us, you know I mean there are lots of duo's that that do that kind of co directing thing i'm a lot of people shy away from it.

00:19:52.860 --> 00:19:55.860 Brian Drillinger: But I think in this situation, worked out great.

00:19:56.700 --> 00:20:02.130 Albert Dabah: yeah yeah um well Alex What was your experience as having.

00:20:02.490 --> 00:20:03.960 Albert Dabah: yeah all of us around.

00:20:04.620 --> 00:20:12.810 Alex Walton: I I totally agree, it was my first experience with a Co directors as well and.

00:20:13.980 --> 00:20:19.680 Alex Walton: I think we're worked most for me personally was that you both had a little different.

00:20:21.450 --> 00:20:34.620 Alex Walton: flavor to your directing so I kind of as we were shooting more and more each day, I think I knew when I needed, something I knew which one to go to.

00:20:35.820 --> 00:20:45.000 Alex Walton: specific examples for me well, first of all, you know Alberto I was constantly picking albert's brain about you know his life and and.

00:20:45.810 --> 00:20:54.450 Alex Walton: You know, was Vivian did she really do this and how did you react when she did that so that was you know I knew I could go to Albert for anything when it came to.

00:20:55.470 --> 00:21:05.940 Alex Walton: Pure like you know truth of this story and what it was like to be David coming up, but for for Brian which I really appreciated was.

00:21:06.870 --> 00:21:11.640 Alex Walton: A there were some more technical things that I could pick his brain about when it came to like.

00:21:12.270 --> 00:21:19.350 Alex Walton: I think, maybe the dinner scene like I line and then also the scene, where a very emotional scene, I you know you came.

00:21:20.010 --> 00:21:25.830 Alex Walton: And we did a little exercise like kind of quietly in the corner, so you know whispering in my ear like making me.

00:21:26.580 --> 00:21:36.090 Alex Walton: You know, it was it was a wonderful exercise exercise and it brought a lot out of me and yeah I think you guys kind of were able to form into one.

00:21:37.080 --> 00:21:50.670 Alex Walton: super director with you know with your different energies and I thought you're going to each other out well, and you know I made a big difference because Albert wasn't so many scenes like us, obviously very helpful I Brian there.

00:21:51.420 --> 00:21:57.330 Albert Dabah: yeah you know I remember, in particular the scene, there was a you know, we had three dinner scenes and I remember.

00:21:57.900 --> 00:22:10.980 Albert Dabah: i'll never forget this, it was I forget which interesting it was but i'm know there were three and it was a really nice day we shot this in the summer and we shot 10 days and my aunt's house in brooklyn.

00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:24.540 Albert Dabah: And Brian said why don't we all the people in this scene, that which was the family sit outside and do some I mean if I remember correctly, it was some relaxation works and breathing work.

00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:40.590 Albert Dabah: And it, I know, for me it really helped me because I found myself, as you said, you know, Brian like the captain of the ship, you know, having all these directions to go to, and then we you know we replace the.

00:22:41.610 --> 00:22:57.030 Albert Dabah: wardrobe designer after one week, and she Seville, who came on board was playing catch up and constantly asking me, you know what do you think of this and what do you think and she was a great support for me, she was a sweetheart and.

00:22:59.010 --> 00:23:00.360 Albert Dabah: You know, it was like.

00:23:01.560 --> 00:23:05.850 Albert Dabah: At one point, I would think as I don't know that one you know.

00:23:06.120 --> 00:23:07.620 Albert Dabah: About that know where that.

00:23:09.150 --> 00:23:21.270 Albert Dabah: But, but I remember Brian in that particular time it felt so good to have someone to you know directors and to seem particularly than I was in and and, as far as other scenes I do remember that.

00:23:22.140 --> 00:23:38.010 Albert Dabah: There were there were many times, where you picked on the technical part of a scene, you know, maybe person's hand should go there, or there, and you know and some of that I didn't see I know I just didn't see it, but then I knew I didn't have to see it, you know you were there to see that.

00:23:38.520 --> 00:23:42.300 Brian Drillinger: Well, we had two pairs of eyes so that's a real advantage.

00:23:42.330 --> 00:23:51.300 Albert Dabah: yeah yeah and I remember, I remember one morning i'll never forget this should be getting a little nervous was the morning, where.

00:23:52.440 --> 00:24:01.290 Albert Dabah: I think geraldine we couldn't find her apron you remember and you're getting real nervous about that, like what's going on here, and he looked at me and said why.

00:24:03.450 --> 00:24:10.980 Albert Dabah: It was like around 1030 or something, and we would show up maybe 738 o'clock or something like that, and you said, why do you seem so relaxed.

00:24:11.520 --> 00:24:23.370 Albert Dabah: And I said to you, I remember exactly what I said I said i'm just learning every day here like like there was so much being thrown at us that I just felt like.

00:24:23.970 --> 00:24:34.590 Albert Dabah: And I tell people, many times and even when it has to do with post production and everything that when we went through I felt like at some point, I said.

00:24:35.130 --> 00:24:41.790 Albert Dabah: it's not going to be a perfect film just do the best you can that's the way I kept feeling about it.

00:24:42.120 --> 00:24:47.790 Albert Dabah: You know, even now, if I look at the film I could cut this I didn't get that but you know what I want to leave it alone.

00:24:48.210 --> 00:25:05.100 Albert Dabah: Like it is what it is and i'm so proud of the film and I want to mention before I forget that Alex was won the best actor award at the Jersey shore film festival and i'm so proud of that, for him to have that award so it's a.

00:25:05.100 --> 00:25:17.730 Brian Drillinger: Great performance, it really is it's a beautiful performance, it really is and and Albert um I have to say I learned a lot from you, because you really did have a.

00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:22.050 Brian Drillinger: An amazingly grounded.

00:25:23.790 --> 00:25:33.000 Brian Drillinger: aura about you, through the process and for people who are watching who don't know much or even those who do about.

00:25:33.750 --> 00:25:47.130 Brian Drillinger: moviemaking and especially a low budget independent film, I mean when you look at these big budget movies, I mean they have so much money to throw out a movie.

00:25:47.850 --> 00:25:58.410 Brian Drillinger: When you're doing low budget it's like you don't have that it, you have to make it work with what you have, so the pressure is quantum Lee greater.

00:25:59.280 --> 00:26:13.860 Brian Drillinger: And I would look at you often and just be so laid back, and so, and I know afterwards we go home and you know all the stress and all the this and that but um it was really.

00:26:15.120 --> 00:26:21.780 Brian Drillinger: encouraging to see how you were able to one to not let the rest of the cast see that.

00:26:21.840 --> 00:26:39.000 Albert Dabah: You know, and that well Oh, you know I thank you for saying that I, you know I don't know where I think that maybe just came from this sense of that I knew this had to get done and I knew the limitations like you say budget.

00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:44.580 Albert Dabah: You know, there were times I remember in the parade grounds, we had to stop shooting so many besides.

00:26:44.580 --> 00:26:54.870 Albert Dabah: So we had, but the helicopters and planes and that whole we, and that was the first few days of shooting it was like we're going to get anything done here.

00:26:55.620 --> 00:26:57.750 Brian Drillinger: just getting the parade grounds.

00:26:58.740 --> 00:27:00.780 Albert Dabah: Getting the ballplayer getting the.

00:27:01.830 --> 00:27:07.650 Albert Dabah: Right Member trying to get a field college field that was like there were so many things that came into play.

00:27:08.970 --> 00:27:16.350 Albert Dabah: One other thing i'll mention is, and this is just the truth, not many of the crew knew much about baseball.

00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:22.050 Albert Dabah: I remember pamela right was pamela the Ad.

00:27:22.230 --> 00:27:28.620 Albert Dabah: Yes, and she didn't know a thing about baseball God bless her, she was wonderful she was just a great ad.

00:27:29.940 --> 00:27:37.500 Albert Dabah: But I remember when she asked how many umpires on each side, and then I said whoa start all over again.

00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:42.270 Albert Dabah: So uh but uh.

00:27:43.110 --> 00:27:46.290 Albert Dabah: But I appreciate it all like there's.

00:27:46.500 --> 00:27:53.940 Brian Drillinger: There was a great crew as well, I mean we're talking about the cast and how wonderful they are right um you know again for for this.

00:27:55.350 --> 00:28:03.000 Brian Drillinger: level of filmmaking the pressure on them, I mean katie our production designer.

00:28:03.690 --> 00:28:08.160 Brian Drillinger: I mean you look at the movie and some of those sets are just beautiful.

00:28:08.430 --> 00:28:08.850 Alex Walton: yeah.

00:28:09.150 --> 00:28:13.200 Brian Drillinger: I had so little money to do that.

00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:13.980 Albert Dabah: yeah well it's.

00:28:14.370 --> 00:28:15.420 Brian Drillinger: Really amazing.

00:28:15.870 --> 00:28:19.830 Albert Dabah: yeah Alex you wanted to we're gonna break in a minute or so, but.

00:28:20.010 --> 00:28:29.880 Alex Walton: Oh yeah no I was gonna say that the sets were so I hopping and catching we watch the film again it's just impossible not to be sucked into that world.

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.710 Alex Walton: But no, I was gonna say that shooting the baseball stuff was was a bit nerve wracking because I think.

00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:48.960 Alex Walton: You know, there were shots when like camera was like set up like 10 feet and i'm hitting balls i'm like just so y'all know like I can kind of direct where i'm hitting it but, like, I know I think there was one line drive where I hit like very close to the camera.

00:28:49.170 --> 00:28:50.100 Brian Drillinger: Yes, I mean.

00:28:51.360 --> 00:28:53.310 Alex Walton: But I know that was a blast and it was.

00:28:54.180 --> 00:28:56.640 Albert Dabah: Well, we did have Member we did put a shield up there.

00:28:56.850 --> 00:28:59.310 Alex Walton: yeah I think I hit the line, too, I like off the shield which.

00:28:59.340 --> 00:29:11.370 Albert Dabah: yeah I think that's what happened well we'll come right back and talk about more about the whole shooting of the film extra innings and I do want to get onto the you know the mental health aspect of the show as well.

00:29:11.430 --> 00:29:12.570 Albert Dabah: What you guys were.

00:29:12.840 --> 00:29:19.380 Albert Dabah: What you in particular, were portraying all right we'll be right back with Alex and Brian in a minute, thank you.

00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:27.420 Educating and.

00:32:06.690 --> 00:32:10.200 Albert Dabah: we're back here with Brian drill injure and Alex walton.

00:32:11.490 --> 00:32:24.150 Albert Dabah: Alex play the older David in extra innings and Brian was the Co director of extra innings an extra innings is on Amazon prime where you can watch it now, we left off talking about.

00:32:25.800 --> 00:32:35.580 Albert Dabah: Some of the baseball scenes that were shot Alex you were saying what it felt like to you know hit a baseball and have like a shield right in front of you, and people right in front of you.

00:32:36.840 --> 00:32:45.210 Albert Dabah: Had it and I want to get to the mental health part of the film as well in a minute, but I wanted to ask you how did you feel to.

00:32:46.950 --> 00:32:53.790 Albert Dabah: You know, to play baseball in the film we more self conscious playing baseball at all.

00:32:55.320 --> 00:33:02.640 Alex Walton: To be filmed right, I think, without the first day of filming was, I think we jumped right into the baseball So for me.

00:33:03.390 --> 00:33:12.480 Alex Walton: It was a it was kind of a blessing, because I was very nervous about the project in general, but one thing I wasn't nervous about was playing baseball in front of everybody.

00:33:12.780 --> 00:33:22.980 Alex Walton: So, to be able to do that right away and kind of like let go of those nerves, and like you said, not everybody onset like I don't think totally understood the game and.

00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:34.860 Alex Walton: You know knew what to expect, so I was nice to kind of show off a little bit and I I everyone was really nice and we're like Oh, you can really play and yeah Thank you so um.

00:33:35.820 --> 00:33:45.540 Alex Walton: I had, I had a blast with that stuff there were some nerve wracking moments, but I had, I had a blast and I really was happy that it was the first day, so we got to do.

00:33:45.870 --> 00:33:56.280 Albert Dabah: I get it yeah well, one of the things that was one of the funniest scenes in the film, and particularly in watching the film now, and I think when we showed the film, you know, on a big screen.

00:33:56.760 --> 00:34:07.260 Albert Dabah: It really got a big laugh is that scene on the beach but there's a couple of scenes on the beach are very funny but the one where you and Ryan are running on aws now you know, he says let's have a race.

00:34:08.460 --> 00:34:15.180 Alex Walton: That was one that was it was also a I was like oh I should get back into shape because that's hired me out but um.

00:34:16.680 --> 00:34:19.470 Alex Walton: yeah me and Ryan had a good time that's around each other.

00:34:19.620 --> 00:34:24.600 Albert Dabah: yeah I thought I thought that was, I mean there were a lot of, and then the you know you had the scenes.

00:34:25.950 --> 00:34:31.350 Albert Dabah: The romantic scenes was Simone yeah how was that for you.

00:34:33.180 --> 00:34:44.280 Alex Walton: We had some own hit it off from the audition like we read together a bunch of times, she was she's hundred percent herself, like the moment you meet her and he's.

00:34:45.060 --> 00:34:52.500 Alex Walton: i'm kind of shy when you first meet someone, but she like pulled me out of my Shell and we we just we just hit it off from the beginning and we.

00:34:53.160 --> 00:35:01.500 Alex Walton: It was one of those just one of those acting partners that you have where you're like you just you're acting and you're just.

00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:15.990 Alex Walton: with one another, reacting honestly and listening and playing around and that's what it felt like it was like Oh, we get to just go to the beach and hang out and maybe make out like have a good time with each other, it was very fun.

00:35:16.650 --> 00:35:27.930 Albert Dabah: Well lately we've been really getting some nice reviews on the film and one of the things that i'm really proud of is the acting of the film, you know because there's no quote big stars in the film.

00:35:29.490 --> 00:35:39.660 Albert Dabah: And I love the fact that that you know it really felt to me like an ensemble piece, and I think Brian I give you a lot of credit for that.

00:35:40.950 --> 00:35:41.490 Albert Dabah: Because.

00:35:41.610 --> 00:35:44.730 Brian Drillinger: You to Alberta, and also our testing, I think we.

00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:46.980 Brian Drillinger: yeah tested really well.

00:35:47.550 --> 00:35:55.110 Albert Dabah: yeah I know i'm really happy the way and proud of came out, so what some with you, Brian like you know.

00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:56.850 Brian Drillinger: Being and I just say one of the things.

00:35:56.850 --> 00:35:58.050 Albert Dabah: We learn to do.

00:35:58.170 --> 00:35:59.430 Brian Drillinger: go right to the mental health.

00:35:59.610 --> 00:36:03.390 Brian Drillinger: yeah the other, the other aspect of the film.

00:36:04.890 --> 00:36:22.680 Brian Drillinger: That is incredible and needs to be mentioned is our cinematographer Luigi richie who just I mean so many of those shots are just really beautiful quite quite artsy and and amazing and really i'm.

00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:37.140 Brian Drillinger: A difficult for him to do if you remember some of those shots where he had to physically carry the camera and run around, and I mean it was exhausting and there was a heavy camera and he got some great great shots.

00:36:37.230 --> 00:36:41.700 Albert Dabah: i'm so glad you mentioned it, because it was on the tip of my tongue before I mentioned Luigi.

00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:57.780 Albert Dabah: I mean, I remember, we had a party before we shot and I said something about the wheezy that I love working with him because we were in the staging you know pre planning stage and I remember saying, the only thing is, I can't understand him.

00:37:00.540 --> 00:37:13.770 Albert Dabah: So he has a very Sir he's Italian any from Italy in a very strong Italian accent, but he was wonderful to work with, I mean he was very strong minded about something when we would discuss it and he had some great ideas.

00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:21.810 Albert Dabah: And sometimes people like someone just asked me why you know the cage why the cage on the side and in.

00:37:23.310 --> 00:37:24.750 Albert Dabah: The room with a with the.

00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:34.980 Albert Dabah: lorises Maurice and and I, you know, sometimes people don't get that as they're watching a film because they just watching a film and they don't get the metaphor, and it makes sense, you don't always get it.

00:37:35.430 --> 00:37:47.850 Albert Dabah: And someone asked me why did Alex run into centerfield at the end he wanted an explanation was the father really in the stands at the end did that really happen or was that what he wanted to happen in his mind.

00:37:48.120 --> 00:37:50.010 Albert Dabah: So great getting all these.

00:37:50.100 --> 00:37:55.980 Albert Dabah: Questions and finding to them yeah I never thought about that either so.

00:37:57.690 --> 00:37:58.710 Alex Walton: He was also hilarious.

00:37:58.770 --> 00:38:00.510 Albert Dabah: I have to say to was yeah.

00:38:01.500 --> 00:38:05.100 Albert Dabah: yeah he had a great sense of humor he's back in town, by the way.

00:38:05.910 --> 00:38:08.640 Albert Dabah: yeah yeah yeah i've been in touch with them a little bit.

00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:11.940 Albert Dabah: So I wanted to bring.

00:38:13.860 --> 00:38:17.190 Albert Dabah: The whole idea of you know, playing the two story.

00:38:19.350 --> 00:38:26.850 Albert Dabah: Where there's you know mental health in the family mental health mental illness in the family and dealing with that.

00:38:28.890 --> 00:38:40.200 Albert Dabah: You know what was like i'll ask you first Alex what was that for you let's say to you know be playing opposite marry your sister and then having a brother.

00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:46.680 Albert Dabah: That actually you are not in this know you were not in the scene with.

00:38:48.330 --> 00:38:59.730 Albert Dabah: You know, come to think of it that's right so let's talk more about with with Mary What was it like having a you know playing a sister like that, having a sister like that and playing opposite or.

00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.020 Alex Walton: yeah I mean marissa was amazing.

00:39:05.250 --> 00:39:07.530 Alex Walton: she's another example of like she just brought.

00:39:09.390 --> 00:39:24.600 Alex Walton: You know that part, maybe, if you read it off the page reads a lot and little larger than life or like you know wow you know, but she brought 100% truth and honesty to every single thing that she did and I learned so much from her um.

00:39:25.860 --> 00:39:26.580 Alex Walton: But yeah.

00:39:28.680 --> 00:39:31.710 Alex Walton: um it was great it was it was.

00:39:32.820 --> 00:39:39.060 Alex Walton: I have my own relationship mental illness, I have sister, you know we all have our own relationship with it um.

00:39:41.610 --> 00:39:46.020 Alex Walton: yeah I I don't know I guess.

00:39:47.250 --> 00:39:51.270 Alex Walton: I guess i'm having trouble with words at the moment but uh.

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:53.700 Alex Walton: yeah Mera.

00:39:54.870 --> 00:39:59.400 Alex Walton: I guess i'll just talk about marriage she she just had a way of.

00:40:01.050 --> 00:40:03.060 Alex Walton: Bringing me in and.

00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:08.550 Alex Walton: I connected with her so much that.

00:40:10.200 --> 00:40:19.110 Alex Walton: I I as Alex had a relationship with Mera that was I i'm so sorry for not answering this well Albert.

00:40:19.140 --> 00:40:20.730 Albert Dabah: Well, you don't know if you're fine.

00:40:21.510 --> 00:40:22.590 Alex Walton: try again um.

00:40:24.450 --> 00:40:33.420 Alex Walton: yeah I don't know i'll just talk about the thing I love most about this movie is that it makes you have a conversation about mental illness and.

00:40:34.590 --> 00:40:35.190 Alex Walton: I think.

00:40:36.600 --> 00:40:39.870 Alex Walton: I my life have had problems simply.

00:40:41.370 --> 00:40:44.400 Alex Walton: Initiating Those sort of conversations on.

00:40:45.990 --> 00:40:48.660 Alex Walton: And anything that can help.

00:40:50.160 --> 00:41:06.660 Alex Walton: bring you know lower the stigma stigma stick geez i'm sorry well the stigma that comes along with mental illness is really, really important, and this movie does that and that brother sister relationship does that, like.

00:41:08.310 --> 00:41:12.000 Alex Walton: I don't know yeah i'll so i'll stop right now, because that was her.

00:41:12.750 --> 00:41:16.230 Albert Dabah: that's fine no, I said that terrible at all, I think I taught her.

00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.410 Alex Walton: How to talk after a year of not talking to anybody.

00:41:21.870 --> 00:41:30.810 Alex Walton: yeah I do, that is my favorite thing about the film it forces you to have conversations about something that is scary and.

00:41:31.980 --> 00:41:37.110 Alex Walton: But scary but that everybody has their own specific relationship with.

00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:41.580 Albert Dabah: yeah Ryan.

00:41:43.050 --> 00:41:44.220 Albert Dabah: What are your thoughts on it.

00:41:45.540 --> 00:41:46.590 Brian Drillinger: On mental.

00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:58.230 Albert Dabah: illness and well i'm just how you know the mental illness of the film and you know of what the films about, and you know even taking off on like what Alex just said about.

00:41:58.320 --> 00:41:58.800 Brian Drillinger: yeah.

00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:04.950 Albert Dabah: The stigma and and I think I think personally what I would just say to what Alex said is that.

00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:12.780 Albert Dabah: You know, one of the things most important things, I think, is to understand that you're not alone when you have.

00:42:13.260 --> 00:42:21.540 Albert Dabah: A problem or your friend has a problem or someone in your family has a problem that there are other families that have problems and other people that have problems.

00:42:22.050 --> 00:42:28.620 Albert Dabah: and breaking down the stigma making a film like this, hopefully opens up conversation when people talk about it.

00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:40.680 Albert Dabah: Because when you talk about it, it, it takes it can take it out of your mind that you know you're you're crazy or you're you know the words that are used, sometimes.

00:42:41.460 --> 00:42:51.000 Albert Dabah: That keeps the stigma going you're insane you're nuts, you know those are the words that you know I had Dr feinberg from say on the show a few weeks ago and.

00:42:51.330 --> 00:42:59.280 Albert Dabah: that's what he said, sometimes that keeps that stigma going is the words that are used to portray on happiness or aloneness or.

00:42:59.700 --> 00:43:11.910 Albert Dabah: When you get stuck in your mind on something, and you take it, like you, you feel stuck in your life and sometimes stuck enough that you're you get to the point that you feel you want to take your own life.

00:43:13.230 --> 00:43:13.890 So yeah.

00:43:14.910 --> 00:43:19.200 Albert Dabah: You know, I think it, I think it hits all of us, sometimes in some way or another.

00:43:20.850 --> 00:43:28.650 Brian Drillinger: And Robbie and Mara who play to have Alex siblings in the movie.

00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:36.900 Brian Drillinger: In two totally different ways do a beautiful job of of respecting that.

00:43:39.600 --> 00:43:59.250 Brian Drillinger: Robbie who finds a powerfully introverted performance and and hardly speaks a word, and you, you learn so much about him that that one doesn't always have to use words to communicate a problem.

00:44:00.810 --> 00:44:04.560 Brian Drillinger: And on the opposite end morrow who is very.

00:44:08.370 --> 00:44:09.060 Brian Drillinger: Out there.

00:44:11.250 --> 00:44:23.520 Brian Drillinger: And yet, struggling with the character is struggling with her own issues um two very powerful performances and.

00:44:24.540 --> 00:44:41.280 Brian Drillinger: You know, and I think part of what I said earlier about you, Albert and your your calmness comes from this being based on on your on your real life, and what I would imagine it must have been for you.

00:44:44.040 --> 00:44:44.400 Brian Drillinger: yeah.

00:44:44.790 --> 00:44:50.040 Alex Walton: yeah i'll just add one thing real quick is that one of the things I love about David too.

00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:52.800 Alex Walton: Is that I think he.

00:44:54.060 --> 00:45:08.880 Alex Walton: sees the beauty in his siblings mental illness in a way, and what makes it so heartbreaking is that not many other people in their lives can see that and If only you know he.

00:45:09.900 --> 00:45:10.530 Alex Walton: Only they could.

00:45:11.100 --> 00:45:16.320 Albert Dabah: yeah yeah well you know I appreciate with both you just had to say.

00:45:17.220 --> 00:45:29.700 Albert Dabah: we're going to take a break and be right back and then you know continue on talking about the film and what it was like to be in the film and we'll go from there all right we'll be right back with Alex and Brian Thank you.

00:46:19.110 --> 00:46:19.620 Most of the.

00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:55.020 Albert Dabah: we're back with Brian and Alex talking about the film extra innings, and so we just left off talking about some of the.

00:47:56.340 --> 00:47:58.410 Albert Dabah: What was it like to you know.

00:47:59.430 --> 00:48:08.100 Albert Dabah: Be in this film or co director film that has to do with based on a true story, and my story my family.

00:48:09.420 --> 00:48:11.550 Albert Dabah: Whether it was mental illness and.

00:48:12.600 --> 00:48:22.470 Albert Dabah: I you know, overall, I think, like we said, I am really happy, I was always very happy with the cast because the cast really.

00:48:24.180 --> 00:48:33.060 Albert Dabah: You know, creates the characters and I the crew was a great crew, we had you know some great gaffers.

00:48:33.870 --> 00:48:51.630 Albert Dabah: You know kind of there's like I always like I said earlier, there's no perfection, but you know it all it all came together, and I really felt like everyone work their hardest and i'll never forget the first day we film with.

00:48:53.430 --> 00:48:55.980 Albert Dabah: With Maurice and aiden in the room, young.

00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:08.580 Albert Dabah: David and we did the rehearsal first and I was so touched by that scene, that I remember before we shot the scene.

00:49:09.060 --> 00:49:22.440 Albert Dabah: You know, you know I said cut be you know, on the rehearsal and then I had to take a walk outside because I was overwhelmed by the emotion of that scene thinking, you know that was me, you know when he tells.

00:49:24.810 --> 00:49:33.060 Albert Dabah: Mars he picks up the book and reads you know and Mars tells him what but he needs a passage from crime and punishment intel's and wouldn't page and everything.

00:49:33.720 --> 00:49:40.950 Albert Dabah: And I walked outside and I took the like I walked about two blocks and then I said oh my gosh this took place right down the block.

00:49:41.490 --> 00:49:52.380 Albert Dabah: That that scene to place right down the block and it really hit me that I can't believe we're recreating that scene, you know recreating something that really happened so.

00:49:54.870 --> 00:50:01.740 Albert Dabah: I know, Brian when you joined up we started working on the script a little bit.

00:50:02.310 --> 00:50:13.920 Albert Dabah: And I want to say, I really want to thank you for that, because you know you came in, you know script was written everything and you said let's work on a couple of things and another thing i'll say is that.

00:50:14.550 --> 00:50:32.760 Albert Dabah: I told everyone in the cast if you feel like something doesn't work if you want to improvise something go for it and we'll let you know, and you remember ED the coach I think he improvised the whole script.

00:50:32.790 --> 00:50:34.440 Brian Drillinger: For it was great it was great.

00:50:34.560 --> 00:50:42.240 Albert Dabah: I think everything he did I don't know if you can find it in the script so what's your take on that Brian and other words, the.

00:50:42.240 --> 00:51:01.110 Brian Drillinger: yeah he brought it brought a lot of humor to it um I remember the scene shooting with Robbie and Mara in robbie's room mm hmm and we were just the cast and the crew who were that we were all in tears just watching.

00:51:02.130 --> 00:51:04.080 Brian Drillinger: watching that scene and.

00:51:05.790 --> 00:51:08.370 Brian Drillinger: You know, again two different.

00:51:10.260 --> 00:51:28.380 Brian Drillinger: perspectives on on mental illness and when they came together, it was just so powerful and so beautiful and and aiden as well, young age, new plays young David who brought.

00:51:29.730 --> 00:51:32.280 Brian Drillinger: So much to that to that scene with Robbie.

00:51:32.640 --> 00:51:33.120 yeah.

00:51:35.040 --> 00:51:36.000 Brian Drillinger: But um.

00:51:37.080 --> 00:51:56.460 Brian Drillinger: I mean you know any it's not that i've been on so many sets but either as an actor or producer or Director on it really the the energy of the set really starts from the top down, and I think that we had a great.

00:51:57.750 --> 00:52:18.540 Brian Drillinger: Group because of the energy that you brought to it, Albert that you I mean obviously it was your piece, and you were very passionate about it, but you were not i'm possessive of it, you were very generous with it and you really allowed all of us to.

00:52:19.620 --> 00:52:31.170 Brian Drillinger: To put our stamps on it as well, and you know that that took a lot, you know, because it was your baby, so I just want to say that.

00:52:32.220 --> 00:52:43.350 Alex Walton: say that I think that's especially true for for me as well playing up as a young man it's like you also made me feel like I was entitled to take complete ownership of my.

00:52:44.220 --> 00:52:51.090 Alex Walton: Of what I brought to David you know I wasn't just doing an impersonation of you, you know you made it very clear from the beginning that like.

00:52:52.380 --> 00:53:13.230 Alex Walton: it's based off of you, but it's me as well and yeah and not only your generosity Albert but just the pride, we felt in this in this piece, and it was very inspiring and yeah you could see on a different set it going to completely different way, but.

00:53:14.910 --> 00:53:20.700 Alex Walton: yeah it was there was no ego was just pure collaboration and.

00:53:21.900 --> 00:53:28.620 Albert Dabah: Great yeah Thank you guys um I appreciate that a lot, you know, one of the things when.

00:53:30.780 --> 00:53:45.060 Albert Dabah: I learned a lot, you know, while I was writing the film over so many years, one part of the business of you know Simba productions was casting sessions and I shot so many different casting sense sessions with.

00:53:45.570 --> 00:53:53.430 Albert Dabah: All kinds of people, they were young actors celebrity actors celebrity directors producers.

00:53:54.030 --> 00:54:07.650 Albert Dabah: And I didn't realize how much I learned from that because I was always shooting them and I wanted to be on the other side of the camera you know, I was still a time studying acting and I would feel frustrated.

00:54:09.030 --> 00:54:21.480 Albert Dabah: to some degree, but when there was a I remember john travolta was there for like a week and diane keaton and milos foreman who did cuckoo's nest and Amadeus and.

00:54:22.290 --> 00:54:26.340 Albert Dabah: When when there was some of these people there for more than a day or two.

00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:37.320 Albert Dabah: You know they saw who I was, and they would ask me what do you think Albert, what do you think, and I was like oh my gosh they're asking me what I think you know and.

00:54:37.830 --> 00:54:48.240 Albert Dabah: But I also learned so much about acting and you know you know a lot of times when an actor goes for an audition they come out if they feel good about it, they go I nailed it, you know I nailed it.

00:54:48.570 --> 00:55:05.310 Albert Dabah: And then, if they don't get the part there so discouraged and what I always felt from learning about that, then an actor can come in with a certain way of coming across for that role and and everyone goes wow you know even the writer, I never saw it that way.

00:55:06.390 --> 00:55:21.810 Albert Dabah: And then they'll ask the next actor to do it that way, and even if they don't pick that first actor they like they have another way of perspective of looking at it and that's where I really learned so much that it's really like fitting that part of the puzzle.

00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:30.780 Albert Dabah: That they might not even know what they're looking for they think they know what they're looking for, but then, when they see something that blows them out and go wow.

00:55:31.410 --> 00:55:44.280 Albert Dabah: And then, they say, well you know he's he's he's got dark hair, you know this, the character has money well well we'll die the hair, you know what's the big deal but it's such a creative process.

00:55:44.430 --> 00:55:47.670 Albert Dabah: Right, I think that's what's so wonderful about it.

00:55:48.300 --> 00:55:59.940 Brian Drillinger: And it's it is, it is the process that it it first of all it's a cumulative you know it's not like one person, it really is a group and.

00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:16.830 Brian Drillinger: That it, you know that there's the famous saying you know that when you shoot a movie you're shooting three movies there's the movie you write the moon movie you shoot and the movie you edit and it doesn't always end the way it started.

00:56:18.150 --> 00:56:31.530 Brian Drillinger: Because it's a process and there's things to learn, and you know, a writer has an idea and they think this is it and then suddenly someone like you say comes in and.

00:56:32.430 --> 00:56:45.540 Brian Drillinger: portrays it in a whole different way and they go oh wow that's that's better you know and and it's a it's a learning process yeah it's a maturation that has to happen right.

00:56:45.630 --> 00:56:57.450 Albert Dabah: yeah well, I want to say, this has been a wonderful talk tonight it's gone by, so fast, and we can talk another hour about it.

00:56:58.770 --> 00:57:05.550 Albert Dabah: But I want to say thanks both of you so much for giving your time tonight and for being a part of the film and.

00:57:06.570 --> 00:57:22.110 Albert Dabah: You know I wish you all well during this you know coven time we're still in it, and you know be well stay safe and we'll be in touch again soon and i'd love to have a party one of these days and get everyone together again.

00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:23.520 Brian Drillinger: that'd be great.

00:57:24.270 --> 00:57:24.540 Albert Dabah: fun.

00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:30.660 Alex Walton: Thank you all, but I think this is really special what you're doing extra innings will always be very dear to my heart, so I appreciate it.

00:57:31.170 --> 00:57:45.630 Albert Dabah: Thank you for Thank you so much, so everyone, you can see extra innings on Amazon prime right now with the subscription and if you don't have one is four bucks so all right take care, everyone have a good night.

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