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Tuesday, February 23, 2021
Facebook Live Video from 2021/02/23 - Perseverance In The Pandemic

Facebook Live Video from 2021/02/23 - Perseverance In The Pandemic


2021/02/23 - Perseverance In The Pandemic

[NEW EPISODE] Perseverance In The Pandemic

What does tenacity and perseverance actually look like in the life of an entrepreneur during the pandemic? Join me and my spotlight guest, Stephen Petro of SPetro Lifestyle Solutions, when we discuss his journey as an entrepreneur, including his pivot during COVID-19, and how vital good health practices are for any business owner.

Tune in for this informative conversation at or watch the Facebook Livestream by clicking here.

Show Notes

Segment 1

Eric introduces his guest Stephen Petro of SPetro Lifestyle Solutions. He has worked as a researcher at St. Luke’s Hospital Obesity and Nutrition Research Center. His business assists people with health and wellness through integrative medicine and diet. As a teen he used these methods to address his acne and health issues. Stephen will work with individuals as well as their doctors to provide the best care possible.

Segment 2

When the pandemic began, Stephen and his colleagues panicked because much of his business required in person meetings. He found that the zoom meetings actually saved him quite a bit of money. While much of the material for his company could be found online, there was an adjustment period when starting online classes. Prior to the pandemic, Stephen and Eric had their commute as part of the normal rhythm to their day. Stephen has had to make many adjustments personally and professionally due to this very new work environment.

Segment 3

Stephen shares why he believes it’s important for business owners to maintain their personal health. Once the pandemic began their keystone habits changed. He recommends that people read Atomic Habits and The Power of Habits to better understand the impact of these changes. Changes in habits can have an impact on people both mentally and physically.

Segment 4

Stephen helps his clients adjust their sleep schedules as well.  A poor sleep schedule can lead ot unhealthy eating habits. He addresses the “calories in calories out” method of weight loss and asks viewers to consider, “Is weight loss the goal or a healthy body composition?” If you would like to know more about living a healthy lifestyle, follow Stephen at @StephenPetro411 on instagram and Twitter. Also connect with him on LinkedIn or Facebook under the name Stephen Petros. Very soon he will be hosting a seminar called Kicking the Sugar Habit.


00:00:45.030 --> 00:00:54.990 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Good evening, welcome to employment law today i'm your host erick solder i'm an employment law and business law attorney at the law office very good solver.

00:00:55.410 --> 00:00:56.580 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I host the show.

00:00:57.420 --> 00:01:01.050 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Every Tuesday night from 5pm to 6pm with the goal of.

00:01:02.040 --> 00:01:02.700 Eric Sarver, Esq.:  motivating.

00:01:03.090 --> 00:01:11.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: and inspiring these all mid sized business owners out there that listen to the show entrepreneurs your brick and mortar establishment.

00:01:12.060 --> 00:01:26.460 Eric Sarver, Esq.: any type of business out there and even some employees listening as well, and in that spirit, I want to welcome my guest tonight we have guests each week and the guest tonight is my colleague and friend Steven Petros Stephen welcome to the show.

00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:27.690 Stephen Petro: Thank you, thank you for having me.

00:01:28.080 --> 00:01:37.920 Eric Sarver, Esq.: you're welcome pleasure to have you i'm going to give you a proper introduction in a moment, talking about a little bit of your background and what you do, but before I do, I thought I would just.

00:01:38.730 --> 00:01:48.840 Eric Sarver, Esq.: talk a little bit about our topic tonight, and so the topic for tonight's show is perseverance in the pandemic and the importance of a healthy lifestyle.

00:01:49.290 --> 00:01:56.430 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And the question comes up what does tenacity and perseverance look like in the life of an entrepreneur during the pandemic.

00:01:57.270 --> 00:02:03.870 Eric Sarver, Esq.: What types of adaptation or pivot the ones business model might be necessary during these trying times.

00:02:04.410 --> 00:02:11.250 Eric Sarver, Esq.: It also brings up the question of what role does maintaining a healthy lifestyle play in having a healthy business.

00:02:11.820 --> 00:02:20.130 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And in that vein, I would like to introduce tonight my spotlight guest, who is, as I mentioned, even petro petro lifestyle.

00:02:20.670 --> 00:02:31.110 Eric Sarver, Esq.: A solutions and Stephen I will discuss Stevens journey as an entrepreneur, including his pivot and resilience during coven 19 and also we'll discuss.

00:02:31.590 --> 00:02:45.930 Eric Sarver, Esq.: How vital good health practices are such as those talk by Stephen through as petro lifestyle solutions and how that can help any business owner entrepreneur out there, so that's our topic for tonight, and I want to read a little bit of an intro for you, Stephen, if I may.

00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:54.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Please great wonderful so as I mentioned so Stephen vegetable is the founder and principal of as petrol lifestyle solutions.

00:02:55.770 --> 00:03:06.240 Eric Sarver, Esq.: A venture business, with a focus on consulting services related to nutrition and maintenance of a healthy physical health and healthy lifestyle, including healthy weight and sleep hygiene.

00:03:06.870 --> 00:03:14.520 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Stevens true passions into as a teenager has been health and wellness, particularly in the areas of integrative health diet and nutrition.

00:03:15.330 --> 00:03:22.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: When he was a teenager his experience and frustration with an equity issue empowered Stephen to search for alternative solutions.

00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:28.710 Eric Sarver, Esq.: When he finally found nutritional sources for his acne he became passionate about researching this field.

00:03:29.130 --> 00:03:39.360 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And many years later he turned his passion into a thriving business and when she has helped countless people achieve their wellness and fitness goals to the use of both a high tech.

00:03:39.900 --> 00:03:48.600 Eric Sarver, Esq.: and high touch approach Stephen utilizes the digital platform and a host of digital tools to provide clients with customized wellness solutions.

00:03:48.900 --> 00:04:00.720 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But it also works with a team of individuals with specialties and exercise integrative medicine nutritional coaching and other modalities to provide a unique consultative experience.

00:04:01.350 --> 00:04:06.390 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I should note that Stephen has worked at St luke's hospital obesity and nutrition research Center.

00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:17.310 Eric Sarver, Esq.: He is a published academic author and ethical theory and is the former co owner of bone education, a standardized prep Center in flushing New York Stephen lives in Queens New York.

00:04:17.820 --> 00:04:24.570 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I must say you've done a lot for you know man of your of your of your age quite impressive so welcome to the show.

00:04:25.050 --> 00:04:26.370 Stephen Petro: I appreciate that.

00:04:28.740 --> 00:04:47.160 Stephen Petro: You know, somewhat right there, there are a few things on there that i'm i'm pretty proud of, but uh but yeah just you know, keeping on going forward and keep building my expertise every every single day so and it's it's so much fun, so thank you Eric for adding me up.

00:04:47.700 --> 00:04:53.760 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Well you're welcome my pleasure glad you can make it tonight glad you're on the show, so you know talking about using spotlight guest because.

00:04:54.060 --> 00:05:03.210 Eric Sarver, Esq.: We often besides I speak about employment issues and employee relations us talk about people who are surviving even thriving and meeting during the pandemic.

00:05:03.990 --> 00:05:15.510 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But first I thought, maybe, if you can tell us more about yourself but, just like where did you begin your career and maybe perhaps you can talk more about your current venture of S petro lifestyle solutions.

00:05:15.960 --> 00:05:23.430 Stephen Petro: will say you know it's it's kind of a funny story, and I think all of these you know entrepreneur journeys are people starting businesses.

00:05:24.180 --> 00:05:39.630 Stephen Petro: I, in whatever aspect at start with something very you know off the wall, sometimes and sometimes it's it's originally from necessity, so in my case, I was, I think, ever since I was in my undergrad I had a certain.

00:05:40.260 --> 00:05:49.140 Stephen Petro: idea of what I wanted to do, but even before that my my experience in high schools you kind of brought up.

00:05:49.740 --> 00:06:06.540 Stephen Petro: As a teenager I had wall to wall acne that's what my you know my mom always says Oh, you had wall to wall acne and and it really was true because I, you know I, of course, maybe you can believe that now, because I mean my skin has improved so much through that time period but.

00:06:07.620 --> 00:06:19.350 Stephen Petro: When I was in school, I went to so many different doctors and and and got a lot of different approaches and and I thought you know it's just things weren't working out for me.

00:06:20.100 --> 00:06:33.450 Stephen Petro: And I do want to preface this by saying I totally am in favor of integrative medicine i'm not one of those people who is like anti medicine, because some people in this field, unfortunately.

00:06:34.290 --> 00:06:46.350 Stephen Petro: You know, tend to be that way, and so, but everything has its role right based on what your needs are as an individual so but anyway, that being said.

00:06:46.830 --> 00:06:59.280 Stephen Petro: What was you know what I was looking at was and trying wasn't working for me what I was being recommended, so I looked into just as a teenager, I guess, I always been a kind of a researcher.

00:06:59.730 --> 00:07:08.730 Stephen Petro: And I looked into just different things, and I was even trying to even like a 15 year old trying to understand published studies, which of course I didn't.

00:07:09.180 --> 00:07:19.800 Stephen Petro: But you know, I was trying to just see what would work for me, because I was so frustrated and just so happened, I really got into diets and nutrition.

00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:32.370 Stephen Petro: and looked at, you know what the effect could be for an acne type situation and also nutritional supplementation so and also exercise in fact it was around that time.

00:07:32.880 --> 00:07:39.870 Stephen Petro: I was in guy entered cross country if you know what that is it's a you know running long distance running really got into that.

00:07:40.500 --> 00:07:48.480 Stephen Petro: funny enough, where I had never done anything like it before lost 30 pounds doing that, and if you could believe it 30 pounds and I was in high school.

00:07:49.440 --> 00:08:02.610 Stephen Petro: Even though it wasn't like amazingly overweight, but you know that just the whole experience of clearing up my acne that way, and also losing you know 30 pounds I just got super into.

00:08:03.390 --> 00:08:14.400 Stephen Petro: Nutrition diet fitness integrative health and at that time even my my mother and I were going to a doctor who used a lot of integrative methods.

00:08:15.930 --> 00:08:32.820 Stephen Petro: You know the traditional approaches with regards to pharmaceuticals and and everything like that, of course, but then she she did a lot with nutritional approaches as well science based I always appreciated that about her.

00:08:33.300 --> 00:08:42.480 Stephen Petro: And it really turned me on to this whole field so from that point I started to really just pour myself into research on that and, of course.

00:08:42.930 --> 00:08:53.730 Stephen Petro: Later, as I went to school funny enough I didn't study something in science in my undergrad I studied science, the science is later in my Grad school neurobiology and behavior.

00:08:54.780 --> 00:08:56.070 Stephen Petro: But earlier than that I.

00:08:57.150 --> 00:09:02.880 Stephen Petro: studied different field philosophy and history go figure but but.

00:09:03.930 --> 00:09:20.730 Stephen Petro: there's a reason for that, which is another topic altogether, but basically really got me passionate and I got to a crossroads wallet was actually my Grad program I said okay i'm have you know student debt going on, and I have all this, I was in not a very good situation.

00:09:21.420 --> 00:09:32.430 Stephen Petro: Financially, and so I thought to myself, you know I can utilize it was a long process for me to get to to get to this point, but I said I could utilize a lot of that.

00:09:33.150 --> 00:09:51.660 Stephen Petro: That passion that I had, and of course I do have a good sense of what the actual sciences and the research on a lot of these things have the analytical mind, so I said, you know why not utilize that in some way that that I can really be passionate about and I can also.

00:09:52.950 --> 00:09:57.720 Stephen Petro: use to pay off my debt so come come a long way from like your one to your seven.

00:09:59.490 --> 00:10:05.280 Stephen Petro: Because when I started you wouldn't have wanted to know me Eric, of course, you know i'm just saying that, in all honesty, I can.

00:10:05.280 --> 00:10:05.610 Stephen Petro: be a.

00:10:05.910 --> 00:10:06.900 Stephen Petro: Little vulnerable here.

00:10:08.460 --> 00:10:14.160 Stephen Petro: But i've always made it a wanted to make an impact and i've always wanted to.

00:10:15.270 --> 00:10:24.030 Stephen Petro: be an educator and I love that aspect of what I do so i'll let you take it back if you want to ask me another question.

00:10:24.300 --> 00:10:29.010 Stephen Petro: Sure sure i'm not used to talking this much seriously i'm usually the one asking all the questions so.

00:10:29.070 --> 00:10:31.050 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right right and some of your own perhaps.

00:10:31.350 --> 00:10:38.340 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah, I guess, well, I definitely want to ask a little bit more about the ticket with service you provide but before I do.

00:10:38.430 --> 00:10:39.060 Stephen Petro: yeah sure.

00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:51.900 Eric Sarver, Esq.: If I made sort of like reflect upon what I am hearing you say something that jumped out at me, including some parallels between your situation in high school and how you dealt with it an adverse situation but diversity.

00:10:52.350 --> 00:10:57.120 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And how business owners today are dealing with the diversity of the pandemic, you know we would.

00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:15.330 Eric Sarver, Esq.: not always work where are related hearing about teenagers skin condition and a business owners situation now with coven and but what I hear a couple of themes, if I may reflect back, first, I heard what rang true statement for me is necessity is the mother of invention so.

00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:16.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: That is.

00:11:16.260 --> 00:11:29.070 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right in the situation and you try different things different means which you're not need poo pooing or putting down, they just didn't quite work, and so you found something that idea, but it took a lot of hard work and research right and then action.

00:11:29.820 --> 00:11:36.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right knowledge and action awareness all combined so that's really something and, like the way you like stuck with that, and then I hear you say that.

00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:48.900 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know if you have your passion and I heard also that you lost weight, then you can see, nutrition and exercise so often, when we do things that feed a positive result it reinforces the reward circuitry around that situation.

00:11:49.170 --> 00:11:55.350 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Absolutely, and I was wonder right which may be a good segue to my next question about your business i'm wondering.

00:11:56.790 --> 00:12:03.960 Eric Sarver, Esq.: When when did you form as PETRA lifestyle solutions and one of the main services you offer the two to your clients.

00:12:04.590 --> 00:12:19.530 Stephen Petro: was really in your one I mean that back seven years ago, but I, you know I wasn't as fully formed, as it is today, and it wasn't as comprehensive as it is today i've learned a lot of lessons from.

00:12:20.640 --> 00:12:28.530 Stephen Petro: You know, failing miserably right, and you know you have to do that and just being very out there about that transparent about it because.

00:12:29.850 --> 00:12:36.090 Stephen Petro: You have to you have to fail miserably many times to to eventually get to where you want to be.

00:12:37.530 --> 00:12:46.110 Stephen Petro: And so yeah today basically i'll just go into a little bit about my business, so what we do is we provide a suite of customized wellness solutions.

00:12:47.070 --> 00:12:55.620 Stephen Petro: targeted, as you said, the particularly toward fitness and weight management, but not limited to those areas, and you know, as you said, we we.

00:12:56.130 --> 00:13:18.510 Stephen Petro: Use utilize a high tech, high touch approach and what I mean by that is we, we have a platform that people can access and it's a web based platform with tools with resources with education, but at the same time, always have access to a real person to work with.

00:13:19.590 --> 00:13:36.150 Stephen Petro: And somebody who's highly highly educated in whatever the modality is in which they're working so we do work with That being said, they work with myself mom and they they work with they have access to people who do.

00:13:37.380 --> 00:13:45.750 Stephen Petro: Who are very high ranking such as my my my business partner renee who does run a race i'll give her a shout out here who does.

00:13:47.340 --> 00:13:55.950 Stephen Petro: You know, actually works with amex polities national franchise doing the training for their their franchisees.

00:13:56.370 --> 00:14:05.640 Stephen Petro: So she actually is very knowledgeable in that area of exercise work with different health professionals, so, for instance, if my knowledge in one area.

00:14:06.630 --> 00:14:23.220 Stephen Petro: Or if my my qualifications in one area, such as, for instance, if this person does have a some severe condition or if they have something that does require you know, a medical doctor to speak with them, they do have.

00:14:23.970 --> 00:14:38.610 Stephen Petro: Access to to basically be referred out to somebody or you know I can refer them to somebody who has the medical license and who can speak directly to their their practitioner right so yeah so we.

00:14:39.810 --> 00:14:57.030 Stephen Petro: We we offer that so basically it's very it's very 360 but um but yeah in terms of I just want to address what you are talking about in terms of the the persistent or the the resilience so.

00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:58.770 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Laughter Stephen so sorry to interrupt I just.

00:14:58.950 --> 00:14:59.280 Stephen Petro: Go ahead.

00:14:59.310 --> 00:15:00.360 Stephen Petro: You do I definitely want.

00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:04.770 Eric Sarver, Esq.: To hear all about that I want to give you the do time do that and we need to take commercial break.

00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:11.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: so sure so, but when we come back, I promise I will against that with you because topic so.

00:15:12.030 --> 00:15:26.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: didn't want to cut you off there so folks i'm Eric soccer host of employment law today on talk radio dot nyc you're here with myself and my guest Stephen petro petro lifestyle solutions stick around we'll be right back.

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00:18:23.010 --> 00:18:32.580 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to employment law today i'm your host erick solver employment law and business law attorney at the law office of arrogance over and.

00:18:32.940 --> 00:18:43.710 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Close this weekly show that meets 5pm 6pm you can tune in live or you can tune in live on Facebook, that is, video or listen live on the talk radio and yc website.

00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:52.800 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i'm here with my my guest tonight, Stephen petro petro lifestyle solutions and Steve and I were just talking before the commercial break about.

00:18:53.520 --> 00:19:04.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: resilience and they're all part of the theme here is resilience and perseverance during the pandemic and Stephen sharing some his own resilience and then we had to cut to a commercial break so Stephen why don't you.

00:19:05.130 --> 00:19:09.210 Eric Sarver, Esq.: finish what you started to say about your takeaways and your resilience and such.

00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:18.450 Stephen Petro: Sure well you know it's funny I recently just finished reading the book and i'm an avid reader I about a book a week I go through.

00:19:19.320 --> 00:19:28.230 Stephen Petro: Those for some people that's not it not as avid right some people they do more, but I do about a book a week and I just finished the.

00:19:28.800 --> 00:19:37.650 Stephen Petro: Great book the obstacle is the way and I don't know if you've read that are but it's it's a fantastic book for every entrepreneur, especially during this time.

00:19:38.010 --> 00:19:49.320 Stephen Petro: And one of the things that I really took away that that carrot kind of characterizes the shift that we made during covert at the start of coven was.

00:19:49.890 --> 00:20:04.500 Stephen Petro: You know, we had been doing a lot of in person consultation in person appointment and even like in person classes, and so we kind of panicked at first all right, and I panicked, for I was like.

00:20:05.340 --> 00:20:23.130 Stephen Petro: Oh, my gosh what do we do, but a lot of times we we panic when something's very unfamiliar right just because of the infant familiarity of it as you kind of talk to alluded to, we are hardwired into our habits right, and so it feels scary when something gets shifted.

00:20:24.210 --> 00:20:35.910 Stephen Petro: So I don't want to downplay what we don't want to do is downplay a lot of the suffering that has gone on during this time, people have really you know gone through tremendous difficulties.

00:20:36.600 --> 00:20:45.510 Stephen Petro: And tremendous suffering really and I can't wait to see as back to normal, but, that being said, I think what the.

00:20:46.140 --> 00:20:53.280 Stephen Petro: The pandemic situation also provided in terms of every obstacle I believe there's an opportunity.

00:20:53.880 --> 00:21:06.780 Stephen Petro: And it was actually more of an opportunity to save more time and save more money honestly through the zoom experience and quite honestly I mean for us it was it was actually.

00:21:07.290 --> 00:21:24.090 Stephen Petro: advantageous in a way, because we were already online in terms of doing a lot of a lot of our resources and tools are online a lot of the videos and educational materials are online, but we didn't really think like, how do we put as a class online.

00:21:24.420 --> 00:21:27.120 Stephen Petro: and have people actually sit there and pay attention we had.

00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:40.230 Stephen Petro: All this skepticism about it, but it has really turned out to be so effective and so such a time saver, and so I really believe at the end of it, you know.

00:21:41.430 --> 00:21:51.390 Stephen Petro: Even after all of this is done and we can get back into our cafes and restaurants and you know be safe, about that, I think that zoom is definitely here to stay.

00:21:51.750 --> 00:21:53.580 Stephen Petro: it's it's going to be.

00:21:54.630 --> 00:22:02.850 Stephen Petro: For every business owner I think it's going to be a big thing, though, that being said, in terms of like pivoting I mean we were already online.

00:22:03.360 --> 00:22:15.660 Stephen Petro: In a way, so it was you know we were prepared in some way, but I think for those who are not online I think here's really the bottom line and might be a hard truth to kind of come to terms with.

00:22:16.080 --> 00:22:32.160 Stephen Petro: Is that yes, I do think the economy is shifting in that direction and so anybody who isn't online maybe I mean i've actually I speak to business owners just on a regular basis, and I know even some some dog care.

00:22:33.780 --> 00:22:36.000 Stephen Petro: Business owner right in in.

00:22:37.170 --> 00:22:47.730 Stephen Petro: In the south, and he were talking, I was like you know, have you ever thought of maybe just you know expanding your service he's doing well actually fortunately sorry that's my dog.

00:22:49.050 --> 00:22:49.620 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Well, and she.

00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:50.160 Stephen Petro: she loves.

00:22:50.370 --> 00:22:51.960 Stephen Petro: she loves this program, by the way.

00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:52.500 So.

00:22:53.940 --> 00:22:54.510 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Timing right.

00:22:55.230 --> 00:22:56.670 Stephen Petro: Exactly exactly.

00:22:58.050 --> 00:23:01.980 Stephen Petro: she's too cute so she's on here she'll she'll definitely mess up everybody's focused.

00:23:02.190 --> 00:23:02.850 Stephen Petro: But um.

00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.840 Stephen Petro: But basically it hey.

00:23:07.860 --> 00:23:16.950 Stephen Petro: You might include maybe some products that that are in your store maybe doing some E commerce there right that might be an idea just throwing that out there.

00:23:17.340 --> 00:23:24.420 Stephen Petro: That might be an idea for people who are not doing it if you're not familiar with it it's maybe a scary but you might consider going in that direction as well.

00:23:24.660 --> 00:23:25.800 Stephen Petro: So, to supplement your.

00:23:25.860 --> 00:23:26.880 Stephen Petro: Your your services.

00:23:28.320 --> 00:23:45.120 Stephen Petro: Other people who are solo printers I do think this is a huge opportunity now to boost your social media marketing right really work on online branding you know learn some new skills that we might have been afraid of before, but I think that are very necessary so.

00:23:45.810 --> 00:23:46.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: That you.

00:23:46.230 --> 00:23:49.380 Eric Sarver, Esq.: build Stephen during the pandemic that you've sort of been.

00:23:50.340 --> 00:24:02.550 Stephen Petro: I was, I was kind of doing some of it before but it became some of it became more of a necessity, and I will tell you something I never liked social media ever.

00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:17.460 Stephen Petro: Ever but then something I realized is doing social media is way easier than like driving somewhere, and you know, using the gas and tolls and meetings that you know i'm saying so it's it's a lot.

00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:26.130 Stephen Petro: it's a lot more time leverage in that sense, to be able to utilize that and social media marketing can be fun.

00:24:26.550 --> 00:24:40.200 Stephen Petro: And it doesn't have to be like oh marketing it just can be whatever is pat you're passionate about whatever you like having a conversation about you attract the same people that want to have that conversation so.

00:24:41.550 --> 00:24:45.420 Stephen Petro: I I have actually learned to have a lot of fun with it.

00:24:45.540 --> 00:24:49.530 Stephen Petro: And while i'm sitting at home so yeah.

00:24:50.010 --> 00:24:53.010 Eric Sarver, Esq.: that's really something there, I mean, I think you know, like when I.

00:24:53.640 --> 00:25:03.630 Eric Sarver, Esq.: asked you about so many challenges during the pandemic and that was and then you also talked about ways in which you pivoted some some takeaways there that it besides, by the way, those.

00:25:04.110 --> 00:25:10.380 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think really good tips about increasing one social media presence up in one's online presence.

00:25:11.070 --> 00:25:20.010 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i've had some guests on the show in the last few months, who speak to employment law but also gets to speak to video marketing or upgrading wanted to a website or.

00:25:20.520 --> 00:25:30.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Having a better polished virtual image, so all great topics that you're bringing up Sean what I also heard yet was just your you know when.

00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:42.360 Eric Sarver, Esq.: We hit that you talked earlier about how you know with uncertainty comes from fear and the very real honest, we actually describe a bit of sort of pandemic and do panic or for.

00:25:43.320 --> 00:25:56.940 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Short and we do so, I think that's really important people to know that just because you're a business owner out there, whether you're a restaurant or an architect or an entrepreneur E commerce, you know person.

00:25:58.350 --> 00:26:04.980 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Just because you have some fear about a situation does not mean that you're a that anything wrong with that.

00:26:05.010 --> 00:26:16.560 Eric Sarver, Esq.: is true not and be right, it doesn't mean that if you're has to paralyze us I Steve and I hear you talking about just moving through that fear and taking action and that's what I think is to me is resilience, you know right there.

00:26:16.950 --> 00:26:33.930 Stephen Petro: Well, one one thing that is a huge I focused I focused, I would say, also much more much more in a very definitive way on my habits and because because one special challenge, I found when working at home, I think this is universal.

00:26:34.230 --> 00:26:35.880 Stephen Petro: And we're working at home or doing.

00:26:35.940 --> 00:26:47.970 Stephen Petro: doing what you're doing at home, I it for me it's a suddenly there was no structure right Okay, no structure in terms of like where where I want to where i'm going to be at a certain time and.

00:26:48.300 --> 00:26:58.350 Stephen Petro: I usually had that plan down for myself with you know location location and time and that was missing, and so I really.

00:26:59.490 --> 00:27:18.750 Stephen Petro: I really had to be even more attuned to what is my schedule, so making it so that you know, I have a very strict morning routine you know, I have to so and so to speak, clock in at a certain time and make sure i'm at my laptop at a certain time and i'm doing specific test so.

00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.650 Stephen Petro: And prioritizing prioritizing is so important.

00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:24.330 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah.

00:27:25.410 --> 00:27:34.380 Eric Sarver, Esq.: that's very, very true, I think I think a lot of us have I I know personally speaking, my experience as well that you know when the epidemic hit.

00:27:34.830 --> 00:27:45.990 Eric Sarver, Esq.: My offices in New York City and I live in New Jersey, so there was always a rhythm to the morning and evening commute that kind of like told me right, and a qb into OK now i'm starting work with now many work.

00:27:46.770 --> 00:27:50.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: If I was busy I could do some work on the train can add a long train ride home.

00:27:51.090 --> 00:27:58.140 Eric Sarver, Esq.: To New Jersey and so there's always that and there are also like mentioned during their wisdom of the day, you know you know would say.

00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:03.300 Eric Sarver, Esq.: When it's lunchtime, you know when you have a networking group in the in the morning for breakfast that it gets you out the door.

00:28:03.840 --> 00:28:15.030 Eric Sarver, Esq.: With dependent make and what people working from home, I actually chose to rent a small office not far from my home just to sort of do some work, even though sure i'm not seeing clients here in my own meetings or virtual.

00:28:15.330 --> 00:28:16.530 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah you're my.

00:28:16.650 --> 00:28:23.430 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Advertising your per se but it's just a small little place and it's literally a few blocks from home and if people ask me well, why would you.

00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:33.420 Eric Sarver, Esq.: do that if you don't need to well I need it for the right the break for sanity and also the fact that you know my wife works from home now on Sep one day a week and.

00:28:34.260 --> 00:28:41.760 Eric Sarver, Esq.: For a long time when someone's home with us before daycare was reopened again so yeah it could be a real balancing act, and I think that's.

00:28:42.120 --> 00:28:45.090 Stephen Petro: And when you're home something always pops up.

00:28:45.180 --> 00:28:54.960 Stephen Petro: Right isn't that is not the case is always something you can you know work on or something pops up some project whatever and it's you know.

00:28:55.260 --> 00:28:56.310 Stephen Petro: yeah and I feel you.

00:28:57.600 --> 00:29:04.890 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I want to hear more about your experience after this next commercial break have to take another commercial break in a moment, so.

00:29:05.550 --> 00:29:14.010 Eric Sarver, Esq.: just want to again for those who joined us late i'm here with Stephen oh Stephen is the fat is an entrepreneur and educator and he's the founder of.

00:29:14.520 --> 00:29:27.540 Eric Sarver, Esq.: s petrol lifestyle solution, then we're talking about Stevens journey and business and experience and also his his pivot and resilience during the pandemic, we come back from the break, I want to talk a little bit about.

00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:46.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: The topic of staying healthy as a business owner, we talked a lot about financial health and operational health, but the actual owner has to be healthy as well, so we're going to take a break again i'm Eric solder host of employment law today stick around we'll be right back.

00:29:47.850 --> 00:29:48.780 Eric Sarver, Esq.: are listening to.

00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:51.180 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And my seat.

00:32:33.150 --> 00:32:43.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to employment law today i'm your host the show Eric software i'm an employee Milan business law attorney at my firm the law office every game suffered.

00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:52.890 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Here joining me tonight, for the last 32 minutes roughly is my good my colleague and friend Steven petro Stephen is an entrepreneur he's also.

00:32:53.280 --> 00:33:00.750 Eric Sarver, Esq.: An educator and he is a founder of S petrol lifestyle solutions and just for a quick recap of those running asleep.

00:33:01.290 --> 00:33:10.410 Eric Sarver, Esq.: we're talking about sort of two topics that dovetail into each other one is the perseverance during the pandemic, what is the resilience involved.

00:33:10.980 --> 00:33:21.000 Eric Sarver, Esq.: What does it take to move forward what has helped Stephen and his business to adapt diversify to change and to grow during this last.

00:33:21.810 --> 00:33:30.450 Eric Sarver, Esq.: 11 months prettily a year now of the Covenant team dynamic, but the other topic we're talking about is what Stephen in fact does for living, which is.

00:33:31.050 --> 00:33:41.100 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Is is is basically a consultative services of helping people with their nutrition wellness and health goals, including diet, nutrition and.

00:33:41.670 --> 00:33:49.800 Eric Sarver, Esq.: sleep hygiene if i'm not mistaken, and you talked about that Stephen before you mentioned how you both serve as a referral hub of sorts with.

00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:58.770 Eric Sarver, Esq.: People coming through and you connect them to other experts in different fields, but you also provide consultation of guidance and so what I want to ask you is.

00:34:00.660 --> 00:34:06.210 Eric Sarver, Esq.: What do you think about say sort of the question coming in a moment I hear a lot of.

00:34:07.080 --> 00:34:17.820 Eric Sarver, Esq.: People talk about Kobe in the last year and it seems to me that has been like an unspoken rules are unspoken something happening in our society where people are let themselves.

00:34:18.240 --> 00:34:31.260 Eric Sarver, Esq.: indulgent unhealthy habits and I think so, for example, i've heard and read that during coven 18 alcohol sales are up something like 44% in the US and more people took up smoking or went back to smoking cigarettes.

00:34:32.130 --> 00:34:44.250 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Now you know a lot of people, I think, use the rationale that well my focus on my business i've got to work extra hard and working long hours i'm very stressed, so I need this relief.

00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:50.730 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And we're kind of brings up the question of to those people out there listening tonight, he may be in that category.

00:34:51.570 --> 00:35:02.940 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Without know offering a shaming message, but what do you think it's important for the business owner to focus on their their own personal health, not just financial health and well being.

00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:11.370 Stephen Petro: Well, I think you the last part of it just don't telling on the last part of what what you said, without without a shaming approach I think that's actually the most important thing here.

00:35:12.180 --> 00:35:21.750 Stephen Petro: Is a very compassionate approach, I think you know i'll just share a story, I was, I was actually talking to a coach.

00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:29.730 Stephen Petro: A fitness coach a lot, it was a long time ago it was years ago and i'm you know the context doesn't really matter and.

00:35:30.270 --> 00:35:36.900 Stephen Petro: Whatever but we we were we were having a conversation, and I was something where it was a point where I was like not.

00:35:37.620 --> 00:35:43.500 Stephen Petro: super consistent with exercise as I am now I am I am like crazy about exercise now but.

00:35:44.070 --> 00:35:54.600 Stephen Petro: But before I was saying, you know i'm doing like one time, a week and you know, a couple of minutes and doing this and you know he just automatically.

00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.460 Stephen Petro: started shaming me he's like well that's not enough and i'm like well.

00:36:00.270 --> 00:36:11.190 Stephen Petro: Okay, so one thing you know you know about human behavior let's just talk about this from from one standpoint is, you have to come from I always believe you have to come from a scientific approach.

00:36:11.550 --> 00:36:22.230 Stephen Petro: about this and and then you know if you take that approach you do end up having a little bit more compassion what really causes people to fall off the bandwagon if.

00:36:22.860 --> 00:36:30.600 Stephen Petro: You will well for sure what happened is, as we were talking about last time everybody's habits changed right so everybody.

00:36:31.230 --> 00:36:43.440 Stephen Petro: started to have one habit and maybe they weren't exercising before, but maybe or maybe they weren't eating healthy before or maybe they were or whatever, but their habits changed everything got thrown off and.

00:36:44.220 --> 00:36:54.720 Stephen Petro: And what happened with that situation is what's called a keystone habit got shifted there's something in in the you know behavior behavior literature called keystone habits, if you really want to like a late.

00:36:54.990 --> 00:37:02.910 Stephen Petro: version of this and and to get into this two books that really highly recommend atomic habits and then also the power of habit.

00:37:03.330 --> 00:37:23.370 Stephen Petro: really will help you to understand why you're having certain habits, why you're struggling right um, so I think it's important to acknowledge it up front and and and just just get to the source of why somebody is struggling and gets also the understanding.

00:37:25.290 --> 00:37:29.370 Stephen Petro: Well, eventually, you do want to kind of communicate to the individual.

00:37:30.570 --> 00:37:35.430 Stephen Petro: and heaven understand have not have an understanding of some point just how important it is.

00:37:37.020 --> 00:37:42.030 Stephen Petro: And without going into just tons and tons of stuff here.

00:37:43.080 --> 00:37:45.300 Stephen Petro: Let me give you a few examples, so.

00:37:45.720 --> 00:37:53.580 Stephen Petro: If somebody has a what's called a high glycemic impact diet mean and what does that mean from standpoint.

00:37:55.290 --> 00:38:03.630 Stephen Petro: let's say so, when you when you eat a meal, you have whatever that is is carbohydrates, proteins fats, and of course vitamins and minerals and.

00:38:04.650 --> 00:38:09.660 Stephen Petro: What the end result is on your blood sugar is either it's it's going to be stable.

00:38:10.020 --> 00:38:20.130 Stephen Petro: it's it's it's going to rise right to some extent, but is that going to be cause a huge spike and an instability and a drop, or is it going to cause a smaller.

00:38:20.550 --> 00:38:31.230 Stephen Petro: Smaller rise and a kind of a lower drop right that's basically if you're having that effect you're going to have a very stable mood.

00:38:31.740 --> 00:38:50.160 Stephen Petro: right when you have a stable mood you have you just do have more productivity, it is so clear in the research so and and there are market differences in terms of people's performance on tasks their efficiency on tasks.

00:38:51.210 --> 00:38:54.810 Stephen Petro: So I think people who are using that that reason.

00:38:56.820 --> 00:39:01.350 Stephen Petro: It again needs to take a compassionate approach, but really needs to get to the root of.

00:39:02.490 --> 00:39:07.980 Stephen Petro: what's going on, like how and what are some easy ways don't make it so hard.

00:39:08.160 --> 00:39:09.750 Stephen Petro: Not everybody has to.

00:39:10.140 --> 00:39:15.270 Stephen Petro: You know, go and fix the problem by working out, seven days a week.

00:39:15.330 --> 00:39:29.220 Stephen Petro: Right and and do was strict detox and do you know and and only eat you know eat no carbs and things i'm again right right, so there are little ways to get people back on the right track.

00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:39.990 Stephen Petro: These little things honestly slight changes can make a huge impact and health outcomes and that's just abundantly clear in in just the literature that's out there, so.

00:39:41.640 --> 00:39:58.830 Stephen Petro: there's basically I can provide many, many more examples of how the impact on health and nutrition and exercise, but there are two videos that I really highly recommend people watch for just the understanding of brain health and and productivity.

00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:13.950 Stephen Petro: There are two Ted talks and that kind of break it down really well Dr Wendy Suzuki has a really great Ted Ted talk on this she's a neuroscientist who specializes in exercise and brain.

00:40:16.710 --> 00:40:37.200 Stephen Petro: physiology and then Angela Angela original also has our ID G l has a fantastic Ted talk on this as well, so there's plenty in terms of the science of this to back that up but yeah compassion is key compassion is really key and education so.

00:40:37.680 --> 00:40:41.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: that's I mean, if I may just add to what you're saying there.

00:40:42.690 --> 00:40:43.980 Eric Sarver, Esq.: was interesting to me is that.

00:40:45.030 --> 00:40:52.770 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You talked about, I think you hit the nail on the head, first, I think, in order, if people take any suggestions seriously, for example, like to say hey you know.

00:40:53.670 --> 00:41:00.750 Eric Sarver, Esq.: We need to really focus on our health it's important to know why right there's there's the why, why should I do this, why should I get it rolling exercise was.

00:41:01.560 --> 00:41:12.840 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right, especially let's say if someone used to be a swimmer or used to go to yoga or the gym resume but now they can, and they have to find ways, and it has more difficult or people have children at home or.

00:41:13.770 --> 00:41:19.860 Eric Sarver, Esq.: homeschooling with zoom and so it's like the hit the up super early so, but you answer the why but.

00:41:20.310 --> 00:41:28.710 Eric Sarver, Esq.: by talking a bit about the science behind I think what I heard from you a little bit of the concept of the proverbial sugar crash right like it's a very.

00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:35.040 Eric Sarver, Esq.: high sugar diet, we get a burst of energy and maybe a little bit of our stress gets cut off and then we get.

00:41:35.730 --> 00:41:45.960 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Tired out and we get a little exhausted therefore irritated maybe distracted and if we're eating healthy foods and hydrating properly so that's I think one important takeaway right well.

00:41:46.050 --> 00:41:50.610 Stephen Petro: I do want to address another thing because there are some people who are listening to this.

00:41:51.030 --> 00:42:04.530 Stephen Petro: And who will, who will have one of two problems or both um one is a huge problem is that many people don't understand, I mean you stay sugar crash okay people people kind of get that but.

00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:16.980 Stephen Petro: A lot of people don't even understand what, what are the foods, there are many foods are many kinds of processed foods that can cause that effect, or even just combinations of foods which.

00:42:17.910 --> 00:42:25.320 Stephen Petro: might not be ideal, so I want to address this something else which is some may make me listening to this and saying hey it like we're in the middle of a pandemic, I.

00:42:26.310 --> 00:42:34.650 Stephen Petro: i'm having food issues right I having trouble affording things I mean this is a reality for many people, so I don't have ideal food choices.

00:42:35.010 --> 00:42:49.710 Stephen Petro: Well here's The great thing about this too and and we we provide lots of education to that's free so, by the way, anybody who you know, wants to sit in on one of our classes or get some of our resources, a lot of stuff that we provide is free so.

00:42:49.950 --> 00:43:00.900 Stephen Petro: feel free but that one one way to address this, is that you know just change some of the combinations of your food, it might be a i'll give you an example, if.

00:43:01.470 --> 00:43:12.030 Stephen Petro: If you can afford a hot dog right and and maybe the rest is like process stuff well, you might want to do a greater portion of the the not that hot dog it's not ideal.

00:43:12.420 --> 00:43:32.040 Stephen Petro: right but it's a protein and maybe add some sort of healthier fat alongside it is going to slow that that sugar rise and and the impacts on the blood sugar and then the impact on weight and fat storage, so there are lots of things we can do even in non ideal situations right.

00:43:32.340 --> 00:43:47.910 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You can tweak things we can like selling, and we can also take into account those logistical issues of whether it's economics or time and when I hear you saying you know i'm running our listeners tonight that Stevens business as PETRA lifestyle solutions.

00:43:49.080 --> 00:44:01.050 Eric Sarver, Esq.: addresses nutrition and wellness and health, and so, if say somebody's listening tonight is a business on around those having some perhaps maybe you're reflecting and saying gee you know i've gained a little bit of weight i've seen the coven.

00:44:03.330 --> 00:44:11.880 Eric Sarver, Esq.: You know i've been like locked up like binge watching netflix you know that people, we can know the place to go, and I think I really wanted to say that because.

00:44:13.080 --> 00:44:28.500 Eric Sarver, Esq.: I think people often here Okay, they recognize rather than not eating unhealthy way or they're not maybe exercising or they're not keeping good sleep habits now with the pandemic people might recognize the problem Stephen but they might not know where to go or how to fix it.

00:44:28.860 --> 00:44:29.160 Stephen Petro: Right.

00:44:29.430 --> 00:44:46.680 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah I hear from you is like you know it's a solid concrete examples of Okay, this is it's a what your issue is, and you we being as PETRA lifestyle solutions you know you and your company have educational seminars and classes and.

00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:54.090 Eric Sarver, Esq.: ways that you can help people, and I want to get to those in a moment, but before I say you might get some about say.

00:44:54.270 --> 00:44:56.610 Eric Sarver, Esq.: We have three yeah commercial break exactly.

00:44:56.700 --> 00:45:04.410 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Right folks and if everyone out there listening tonight you're listening to employment law today i'm the host the show Eric solder.

00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:20.400 Eric Sarver, Esq.: i'm an employment law business attorney helping small midsize companies my guest even petro is in entrepreneur educator and into nutrition and wellness with s petro lifestyle solution so folks to stick around we'll be right back.

00:45:22.050 --> 00:45:25.170 Eric Sarver, Esq.: you're listening to talk radio and my.

00:45:26.310 --> 00:45:28.260 Left educate and.

00:47:37.980 --> 00:47:46.830 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Welcome back to employment law today i'm your host erick solver i'm here tonight, my guest Stephen petro semen again entrepreneur businessman and.

00:47:47.310 --> 00:47:58.020 Eric Sarver, Esq.: educator and Stevens company as PETRA lifestyle solutions helps people to get in touch with their nutritional and wellness goals and aspirations.

00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:05.220 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So Stephen I just want to go back to what you're saying before the show maybe we want to hear more about some of the.

00:48:05.910 --> 00:48:16.290 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Examples of perhaps some nutritional and wellness guidance that you provide to your clients, can you take us through some more perhaps examples attritional it's really good stuff.

00:48:16.770 --> 00:48:25.680 Stephen Petro: Sure sure yeah, so I think one of the biggest issues now especially especially is sleep habits, so you know.

00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:27.930 Stephen Petro: For sure people, especially in.

00:48:28.020 --> 00:48:32.370 Stephen Petro: nyc right we're always walking everywhere, I think so many of us are walking.

00:48:33.600 --> 00:48:44.700 Stephen Petro: Well, work walking constantly and you know we do adapt to that rhythm and our circadian rhythm does respond to you know even just that kind of activity level.

00:48:45.810 --> 00:48:54.000 Stephen Petro: You know, going places there is a rhythm to that hormonally and so even just stopping that that kind of activity very abruptly.

00:48:54.420 --> 00:49:00.300 Stephen Petro: does affect I remember, for me, when I when this whole thing started way back in March.

00:49:01.080 --> 00:49:10.170 Stephen Petro: I was finding myself staying up until just not not voluntarily until 1pm and 1am and i'm like what's what's going on.

00:49:10.680 --> 00:49:21.990 Stephen Petro: What Why am I having such trouble getting to sleep so um one of the things you really want to look at in those cases and is things like light.

00:49:22.650 --> 00:49:36.900 Stephen Petro: light is very light actually has a huge huge impact, I remember when we were doing back back in like my neuroendocrinology textbook we did a whole class basically on light and sleep.

00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:38.700 Stephen Petro: And it was that important.

00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:52.170 Stephen Petro: Because even just the smallest amount of light causes hormonal issues in the brain and actually inflammation I don't want to scare people, but you can combat these things.

00:49:53.550 --> 00:50:00.000 Stephen Petro: But you know just making sure, obviously the lights are off you want to sleep in complete darkness as much as possible.

00:50:01.050 --> 00:50:23.220 Stephen Petro: Some there are times when even supplementation may be appropriate, some melatonin support and some some herbs are actually very helpful certain herbs, but also, you know you're when you are doing, certain things again, you want to just schedule your time because your body does.

00:50:24.270 --> 00:50:50.730 Stephen Petro: unbeknownst to you responds to your routine so hormonal release and so forth, so that's a very important one but, again, we coming back to linking to obesity or linking to weaken it directly there's been a lot of research in recent years, showing how directly sleep quality effects waking.

00:50:51.930 --> 00:51:04.110 Stephen Petro: So you're sleeping well, you are actually not you're restricting your metabolism, and you are actually increasing get this you're increasing the hunger hormone leptin.

00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:18.180 Stephen Petro: whenever you don't sleep well, so you may find yourself actually hungry, or because of this so um yeah a lot of things, so one of the things I do want to kind of address is it is.

00:51:19.140 --> 00:51:28.980 Stephen Petro: Very pervasive thing, and I think the fitness industry and a model I think we're moving more away from which is calories in calories out that simple model.

00:51:29.460 --> 00:51:43.440 Stephen Petro: um, it is true, you will lose weight if you restrict calories and and so forth, that is, this true i'm for sure not arguing with that that's the that's physics that's first law of thermodynamics right there but.

00:51:44.430 --> 00:51:56.460 Stephen Petro: You know not disputing that disputing there, but we have to back up a second and ask ourselves is is weight loss, the goal, or is a healthy body composition, the goal.

00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:57.390 Eric Sarver, Esq.: very true.

00:51:57.750 --> 00:52:06.150 Stephen Petro: So one of the thing and what do I mean by healthy body composition healthy ratio of fat and muscle okay.

00:52:06.900 --> 00:52:22.890 Stephen Petro: muscle dictates dictates metabolism, you have more what's called mitochondria in muscle tissue than fat, so they burn more energy so The thing is, we want to not just necessarily look at health thin you are or how overweight or whatever.

00:52:23.370 --> 00:52:32.820 Stephen Petro: i'm very, very important and what we what we really train on and help people with his body composition, which I think is more the root of what's going on.

00:52:33.300 --> 00:52:42.450 Eric Sarver, Esq.: So that's interesting and then I think a couple things dramatically there one, you know as we were talking about this right i'm thinking about how.

00:52:43.140 --> 00:52:53.490 Eric Sarver, Esq.: To put it in the context of our show, which is the show is employment law today, but it also has to do with how employers and business owners that say business owners out there can.

00:52:53.940 --> 00:53:03.480 Eric Sarver, Esq.: be there at their best because it's hard to run a business in any way, even as we both know and myself as a warrior for 22 years but i've been.

00:53:03.780 --> 00:53:13.260 Eric Sarver, Esq.: At my practice since April, for one, and you have seven years in your company, we know that even in the best of time even not with a pandemic, it can be challenging to run a business.

00:53:13.650 --> 00:53:20.790 Eric Sarver, Esq.: And I think that right, and so I think what I often observed, because I worked with a lot of clients are entrepreneurs.

00:53:21.090 --> 00:53:25.470 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Not in the way that you do even Of course I work with them with their contracts and employee handbooks their employment issues.

00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:34.200 Eric Sarver, Esq.: But i've noticed that sometimes i've noticed people who almost where the lack of sleep as like say a sort of either a badge of honor.

00:53:34.500 --> 00:53:41.100 Eric Sarver, Esq.: or a sign that they're a true go getter you know that they're going to be it's almost like a New York, the shape of sorts or upper maybe it's an.

00:53:41.550 --> 00:53:49.080 Eric Sarver, Esq.: metro area nyc Manchuria cliche that you sure burning the candle at both ends, but what I hear you saying here is that.

00:53:49.410 --> 00:54:01.140 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Even in the best of times, having proper sleep nutrition, it helps you as a person, and then it's an by extension if you're in business for yourself and helps your business, you can you can concentrate better you can.

00:54:01.680 --> 00:54:11.640 Eric Sarver, Esq.: stay healthier you notice in more energized your mood is stable all which you know I think we lose sight of because we're used to talking about financial health and well.

00:54:12.390 --> 00:54:21.420 Stephen Petro: let's put it this way it's directly i'll put it bluntly it's directly tied to financial health so um there's you know, there are different studies out there, but.

00:54:22.380 --> 00:54:36.810 Stephen Petro: You know i've seen as much as 120% increase in productivity is by implementing very simple healthy habits and what does that what does that turn into that's that's money right so.

00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:47.430 Stephen Petro: Basically, if you want to make money if you want to make money you're healthy habits, they they really do translate into more money in your pocket so.

00:54:48.570 --> 00:54:52.050 Stephen Petro: The only thing I could do we can do like a long drawn out.

00:54:52.440 --> 00:55:00.240 Stephen Petro: explanation of how do you get to those root problems of you know how do you get more sleep on a busy schedule, how do you eat healthier in a busy schedule that's a much.

00:55:00.540 --> 00:55:08.010 Stephen Petro: Easier even much longer conversations that their individual conversation, but what I can say that are great resources that I do want to.

00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:18.480 Stephen Petro: that people can kind of implement right away, is you know get those books that I talked about get the there, there are three that I recommend one is the atomic habits.

00:55:19.140 --> 00:55:33.030 Stephen Petro: Or the power of habits, the power of habit those you really can get to the root cause and and you can they teach is very simple, practical steps about how to how to change some things for yourself to get better results.

00:55:34.050 --> 00:55:45.090 Stephen Petro: The third book and it's I think great for any business owner who entrepreneur who has employees, whatever contagious culture by a nice Kevin a lot about self care in there.

00:55:45.420 --> 00:55:48.660 Stephen Petro: So anyway, I will hand it back to you Eric.

00:55:48.690 --> 00:55:57.030 Eric Sarver, Esq.: yeah Thank you know in fact it's funny you mentioned, if we had more time because it's an in depth conversation we have two minutes ends where i'm going to do is.

00:55:57.600 --> 00:56:11.070 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Before I give my sort of 32nd segue out, I want to hear it just take one take a moment, could you share with us perhaps see your your contact information, how would people find you your website or email or.

00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:18.210 Stephen Petro: Sure, so I really prefer people contact me directly, you can find you can connect with me on Facebook or instagram.

00:56:19.260 --> 00:56:28.920 Stephen Petro: At at Stephen petro for one one at Stephen with a pH stp H E n P tr 0411.

00:56:30.270 --> 00:56:48.600 Stephen Petro: So at Stephen federal for one one, and then on linkedin Stephen petrol stp AG, and then petro so feel free to we do have events coming up on on march 3 kicking the sugar habit great education, if you wanted to that so contact me for more information as well.

00:56:48.900 --> 00:56:59.970 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Wonderful Stephen Thank you so much for sharing that folks i'm again i'm Eric solver the host of employment law today I had this show on talk radio that nyc every Tuesday.

00:57:00.270 --> 00:57:17.730 Eric Sarver, Esq.: 5pm to 6pm Eastern standard time, if you like, what you've heard you can like us on Facebook, you can also tune in to the five o'clock at Facebook COM, or on the radio show itself at WW dot talk later than nyc I want to thank you so much Steven for joining us this evening and have.

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:19.440 Stephen Petro: An amazing time, thank you.

00:57:19.620 --> 00:57:34.470 Eric Sarver, Esq.: Well you're welcome my pleasure, having you on the show hope those out there listening got some good takeaways tune in for the upcoming shows 6pm to our station your talk radio nyc and everyone have a great night and i'll be back next Tuesday, so thank you and take care.

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