We may have, or have known someone who has been touched by suicide. Often families and persons affected by suicide, or attempted suicide, struggle with the heartbreak and guilt that it can bring.
Tonight join us as we Break The Silence unpacking the stigma that can live around this very important topic. We welcome Albert Dabah to the show, host of Extra Innings, right here on TalkRadio.nyc!
Tune in for this philosophical conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by clicking here.
Georgeann announces that the name of today's show is “ Breaking The Silence.” Georgeann remarks that if you want to change to be better in life you need to change the way you view things. Georgeann sees God as a mystery and how you never know how God works. Georgeann says that he does not believe in coincidence and that things happen in God’s time.
Georgeann introduces his special guests Albert Dabah the creator and the director from the film Extra Innings. Georgeann asks Albert to talk about why he filmed the film Extra Innings? Albert answers by saying that in the film he tries to demonstrate how he feels throughout his entire life. Albert tells Georgeann that it took him 20 years to write the film. The main characters in the Film are the two brothers and how their relationship is so powerful and unique. The section ended with Georgeann and Albert mentioning that it doesn't matter if you are certain, you can always change with help.
What is Albert’s goal towards the film? Albert starts off by saying that he is trying to help others and influence others on how to be a better person. Georgeann states that the topics of shame and secrecy always need to be talked about. Georgeann mentions that as much as we tried to act perfect we will always end up being pervasive. Albert mentions that he always had loved filming and acting. As a kid Albert attended a lot of auditions to learn about acting and how it works. Albert announces that his next film is probably going to be about relationships and how to build one and treat one.
Albert discusses how he met his girlfriend “ Lizzy” during Covid-19. Albert is mentioning how Lizzy had changed his life for the better. Albert describes Lizzy as a very sweet, beautiful, and smart woman. The show ended by Albert telling the audience to watch the film “ Extra Innings” and think and also connect to one of the characters in the film. Georgeann ended the show by saying a goodnight prayer.
00:00:32.070 --> 00:00:33.120 Georgeann Dau: Good evening, everyone.
00:00:35.550 --> 00:00:45.210 Georgeann Dau: Thank you to those of you tuning in. It's always my honor and privilege to be here with you in my prayer. And my hope is always that
00:00:46.440 --> 00:00:57.030 Georgeann Dau: There is some fruit that gets born out of your listening and participating in our shows. So thank you for that. So,
00:00:58.110 --> 00:01:02.520 Georgeann Dau: Before we introduce our guest and he'll be here shortly.
00:01:03.990 --> 00:01:07.950 Georgeann Dau: The name of the show tonight is breaking the silence.
00:01:09.150 --> 00:01:15.960 Georgeann Dau: And there's a lot of things that I think about where we really need to break the silence.
00:01:17.610 --> 00:01:38.280 Georgeann Dau: And I was just reading through Sam's book everyday awakening Sam Leibowitz is the owner of this radio station and supports all of our work here. Great guy. And it's interesting. So I'd like to just start with reading this and interjecting along the way so
00:01:39.810 --> 00:01:59.130 Georgeann Dau: He says, you know, sometimes we crave to see evidence of magic in our lives. We want that something special to show up in a way we can see it, touch it, feel it, we want to see something that can explain any other way. But magic.
00:02:00.450 --> 00:02:22.230 Georgeann Dau: At the same time, we are skeptical of magic and miracles. We have a hard time believing in unseen things we feel that magic just doesn't happen for us. Here's the thing, if we want magic to show up in our lives, we need to change, we need to change our perspective.
00:02:23.730 --> 00:02:29.280 Georgeann Dau: To change our attitude to be open to possibilities.
00:02:30.600 --> 00:02:41.190 Georgeann Dau: If we would allow ourselves to be just a little more open, we would create space for magic to show up sometimes magic is all around us.
00:02:42.450 --> 00:02:43.890 Georgeann Dau: And we just don't see it.
00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:51.540 Georgeann Dau: Small coincidences go unnoticed. There's a person who calls right when you're thinking about them.
00:02:53.040 --> 00:03:15.330 Georgeann Dau: The angels speaking to us in subtle ways if we do not look for it. We do not see it yet. When we open our eyes when we open our hearts to the magic of life itself. When we embrace the miracles that are all around us. We see an experience so much more magic.
00:03:16.860 --> 00:03:19.770 Georgeann Dau: What was once impossible is now possible
00:03:20.850 --> 00:03:24.450 Georgeann Dau: What was once unimaginable is now very real.
00:03:25.500 --> 00:03:30.180 Georgeann Dau: And our lives become joyful, knowing that there is magic in them.
00:03:31.230 --> 00:03:48.180 Georgeann Dau: The shift is not an easy one. Especially if we've spent a lifetime being skeptical and closed minded to open up now is asking a lot of ourselves, yet it is the only path we can take to have this desire fulfilled.
00:03:49.530 --> 00:03:51.240 Georgeann Dau: For those who believe in magic.
00:03:52.350 --> 00:03:59.610 Georgeann Dau: Will see magic real magic not sleight of hand tricks the magic of life itself.
00:04:01.170 --> 00:04:03.930 Georgeann Dau: Have you been closed to magic.
00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:06.540 Georgeann Dau: Can you open up
00:04:07.710 --> 00:04:10.710 Georgeann Dau: To see the magic in your own life.
00:04:12.810 --> 00:04:17.670 Georgeann Dau: So as I read this is a couple of things that come to mind that I'd like to share with you.
00:04:19.740 --> 00:04:20.460 Georgeann Dau: First of all,
00:04:22.620 --> 00:04:27.270 Georgeann Dau: And you know, it's great because we're all allowed to look at things in the way we do right
00:04:29.010 --> 00:04:40.530 Georgeann Dau: I don't like the word magic. I like to call it grace because God graces, all of us with quote magic with graces.
00:04:41.910 --> 00:04:46.140 Georgeann Dau: With situations that touch us throughout our lives.
00:04:47.310 --> 00:04:50.940 Georgeann Dau: And we know that it can only be something of mystery.
00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:53.100 Georgeann Dau: No.
00:04:54.330 --> 00:04:55.650 Georgeann Dau: None of us have seen God.
00:04:57.480 --> 00:04:59.550 Georgeann Dau: So this is the way I language.
00:05:01.740 --> 00:05:02.100 Georgeann Dau: God
00:05:04.110 --> 00:05:18.150 Georgeann Dau: God is mystery God comes to us anytime, anywhere, any place, any way that God seems deemed unfit to do based on
00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:24.930 Georgeann Dau: How God knows who we are based on how God created us
00:05:26.790 --> 00:05:34.320 Georgeann Dau: And God knows us because God created us and we're each an individual particle of the Christ.
00:05:35.340 --> 00:05:36.150 Georgeann Dau: Creation.
00:05:38.250 --> 00:05:38.730 Georgeann Dau: And
00:05:40.110 --> 00:05:47.550 Georgeann Dau: We all need to change our perspective, because those of you that have listened to the shows, previous to this one.
00:05:48.630 --> 00:06:02.940 Georgeann Dau: I've spoken about how we all can experience distortions from our upbringing. So I talked a little bit about those that were brought up in a home with prejudice.
00:06:04.200 --> 00:06:12.120 Georgeann Dau: It's a distortion of reality because we are all the same. And there is no such thing as differences truly there aren't
00:06:14.640 --> 00:06:15.030 Georgeann Dau: And
00:06:16.350 --> 00:06:19.560 Georgeann Dau: So I also do not believe in coincidences.
00:06:20.640 --> 00:06:28.380 Georgeann Dau: I think that everything happens at a time when it is supposed to in God's time for us. So
00:06:29.610 --> 00:06:30.540 Georgeann Dau: When we pray
00:06:32.100 --> 00:06:44.580 Georgeann Dau: And we ask for God's help with something. It will come, but it might not be in the way or in the time that we are expecting it, or wanting it. But it will come
00:06:45.960 --> 00:06:47.370 Georgeann Dau: It absolutely will come
00:06:48.720 --> 00:07:08.100 Georgeann Dau: And when we're touched with grace and those of you that listen to the first show of mine. I spoke about how I my bit my early beginnings and I was, I was always a seeker and went into analysis, which is now my profession. Now in spiritual director
00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:09.720 Georgeann Dau: And
00:07:11.340 --> 00:07:18.450 Georgeann Dau: I was seeking and I was going from religion to religion path to journey to church to church.
00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:25.860 Georgeann Dau: Different therapies shamanism New Age. But it wasn't until I
00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:35.730 Georgeann Dau: really opened my heart to Jesus and I'm not here to convert anyone, I can only tell you my experience.
00:07:37.620 --> 00:07:39.750 Georgeann Dau: Was that things really opened up for me.
00:07:41.490 --> 00:07:58.590 Georgeann Dau: And you know God weights in the background always calling us always a place of salvation and from the original Greek text, you know, it talks about here in the air. It talks about angels from the original Greek text angel means messenger
00:08:00.180 --> 00:08:00.690 Georgeann Dau: And
00:08:02.460 --> 00:08:08.070 Georgeann Dau: We're all messages, many times to others. Aren't we, those of us that love to love.
00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:11.820 Georgeann Dau: Love to speak from our hearts and give love
00:08:13.350 --> 00:08:18.990 Georgeann Dau: Not about changing someone, it's not about changing someone that's not what it's about. That's not what I mean.
00:08:20.490 --> 00:08:24.330 Georgeann Dau: It's about bringing the good news to someone
00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:30.210 Georgeann Dau: Place of love, a place of hope, a place of genuine caring
00:08:32.430 --> 00:08:33.240 Georgeann Dau: That's an angel.
00:08:34.470 --> 00:08:36.240 Georgeann Dau: And I'm sure all of you here.
00:08:38.910 --> 00:08:40.140 Georgeann Dau: Are up to that task.
00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:42.600 So,
00:08:44.250 --> 00:08:52.170 Georgeann Dau: I just care and love each one of you and I know for some people listening, they say, Oh, that's so corny, you know, how could she say that
00:08:54.090 --> 00:08:58.920 Georgeann Dau: But I'm a human being and it took me a very long time to come to love myself.
00:09:01.110 --> 00:09:01.890 Georgeann Dau: And I do now.
00:09:03.150 --> 00:09:07.110 Georgeann Dau: That of that it opens me up and gives me the capacity to love you.
00:09:08.490 --> 00:09:12.780 Georgeann Dau: Even though I don't know you. I know that we're all the same, because we all struggle.
00:09:13.890 --> 00:09:14.730 Georgeann Dau: And we all suffer.
00:09:16.470 --> 00:09:19.080 Georgeann Dau: And we all are joyful at times.
00:09:20.160 --> 00:09:20.460 So,
00:09:22.620 --> 00:09:23.520 Georgeann Dau: So tonight.
00:09:25.410 --> 00:09:28.680 Georgeann Dau: My guest so great that he's here with me.
00:09:31.380 --> 00:09:32.550 Georgeann Dau: His name is Albert
00:09:34.650 --> 00:09:40.410 Georgeann Dau: And he wrote and produced and created incredible film.
00:09:41.640 --> 00:09:43.650 Georgeann Dau: Called extra innings.
00:09:44.670 --> 00:09:45.090 Georgeann Dau: And
00:09:46.560 --> 00:09:53.730 Georgeann Dau: Is it about baseball, sort of, but not really. He uses that word.
00:09:54.750 --> 00:10:02.550 Georgeann Dau: He also has a radio show here on the station called extra innings. And it's great because he uses it.
00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:04.980 Georgeann Dau: As a way in
00:10:07.170 --> 00:10:09.120 Georgeann Dau: A way in to
00:10:11.130 --> 00:10:14.760 Georgeann Dau: A deeper topic that we're going to explore tonight.
00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:16.320 Georgeann Dau: One.
00:10:17.790 --> 00:10:18.720 Georgeann Dau: That is
00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:22.800 Georgeann Dau: Many terms forbidden to talk about in families.
00:10:26.220 --> 00:10:32.310 Georgeann Dau: That has temple in our society, in many ways, and yet it is really quite pervasive pervasive.
00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:35.130 Georgeann Dau: In the world that we live.
00:10:38.850 --> 00:10:41.940 Georgeann Dau: And he's created all of this to take away the stat stigma.
00:10:44.310 --> 00:10:45.180 Georgeann Dau: Of a topic.
00:10:46.800 --> 00:10:47.850 Georgeann Dau: Called suicide.
00:10:49.380 --> 00:10:49.740 Now,
00:10:52.350 --> 00:10:54.330 Georgeann Dau: People that commit suicide. Are they crazy
00:10:56.070 --> 00:10:57.930 Georgeann Dau: I'm a psychoanalyst. And I say,
00:10:59.370 --> 00:11:00.180 Georgeann Dau: Not always.
00:11:01.770 --> 00:11:14.400 Georgeann Dau: I think, at times, and all of our life. If we tell the truth, and we feel like with just frustrated. We found enough we can have a glimpse of oh my gosh I maybe I'd be better enough being here.
00:11:17.490 --> 00:11:19.020 Georgeann Dau: Is it despair for people
00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.940 Georgeann Dau: Looking to explore these issues tonight.
00:11:24.990 --> 00:11:30.120 Georgeann Dau: And for those of you watching that have a family member of friends that took their life.
00:11:32.820 --> 00:11:34.620 Georgeann Dau: We always pray for you and for them.
00:11:35.640 --> 00:11:42.480 Georgeann Dau: And if you want to text us or let us know in any way that you'd like to talk further about it. We're here.
00:11:43.710 --> 00:12:02.250 Georgeann Dau: I guess tonight. Albert is also a therapist. I'm a psychoanalyst he's a psycho therapist, and we're here to for you to listen and for you to embrace this topic on board with us to become better acquainted.
00:12:05.250 --> 00:12:07.830 Georgeann Dau: With something that most people don't talk about
00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:17.940 Georgeann Dau: So we're going to take a quick break when we come back I'll introduce you to a really great guy, Albert
00:12:19.290 --> 00:12:22.050 Georgeann Dau: Taba. We'll be right back. Thank you for
00:14:51.810 --> 00:15:00.930 Georgeann Dau: Welcome back to a journey through. I'm Dr. George and and without further ado let's introduce our guest tonight. Albert
00:15:02.070 --> 00:15:02.880 Georgeann Dau: Albert
00:15:03.270 --> 00:15:08.130 Albert Dabah: I Hi, nice to be here. Nice to be here tonight. Thank you so much for having me on. You
00:15:08.130 --> 00:15:13.380 Georgeann Dau: Thank you for making the time. I know that you have a show called extreme endings right before my show. Right.
00:15:13.830 --> 00:15:16.350 Albert Dabah: Yeah, yeah, I got a little bit behind there and
00:15:18.060 --> 00:15:20.430 Georgeann Dau: So, right, right. So we're kissing cousins.
00:15:20.550 --> 00:15:22.500 Albert Dabah: Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Yeah.
00:15:22.830 --> 00:15:27.690 Georgeann Dau: So, um, I want to thank you for creating your film.
00:15:28.710 --> 00:15:30.210 Georgeann Dau: Incredible film.
00:15:31.380 --> 00:15:45.930 Georgeann Dau: It just extra innings just incredible film on Amazon, you have a chance to watch it. I DEP DEP fully recommend it because it, it approaches a topic, but in a way that is not dark
00:15:46.470 --> 00:15:54.480 Georgeann Dau: It is very loving. So, but you want to talk a little bit about what made you create the film and what kind of effect did it have on you.
00:15:55.590 --> 00:15:58.890 Albert Dabah: Yeah, um, I created the film.
00:15:59.910 --> 00:16:06.780 Albert Dabah: Because I felt something that I just really needed to express talking to friends and people about it.
00:16:08.010 --> 00:16:10.860 Albert Dabah: wasn't enough for me. I felt like
00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:22.620 Albert Dabah: It was I really felt up against the stigma of what it was like to have two siblings that took their lives and
00:16:23.670 --> 00:16:26.760 Albert Dabah: The sadness, the pain, the shame.
00:16:28.470 --> 00:16:43.380 Albert Dabah: And I got to the point that I felt that I was seeing a therapist, and he said, You're, you're a great storyteller and as I'm a great storyteller. How do you know and you know we've been told me a story for quite a few years and
00:16:45.270 --> 00:16:58.500 Albert Dabah: And so I started to write it down. I first hired a writer, but you know I helped me get started and then I took it from there. I wrote 11 or 12 drafts and
00:16:59.940 --> 00:17:01.380 Albert Dabah: I felt like I needed to
00:17:02.610 --> 00:17:11.250 Albert Dabah: Express. What was in me. What was one on my feeling obviously all from my own thoughts, my own views.
00:17:12.360 --> 00:17:22.260 Albert Dabah: I felt that this really as I kept going into it and showing it to people and hearing all kinds of things. I felt more and more determined
00:17:22.860 --> 00:17:39.510 Albert Dabah: And it really took me about 20 years because it wasn't like something I did every day. I have a business call seven productions, which produced the film, which I still have that business and the film just got to the point that i mean
00:17:40.740 --> 00:17:53.580 Albert Dabah: After writing the film and showing to so many different people. It's not like I showed it to one person who was a expert in this. I showed it to some professors and different people in the business, but showed it to friends and family.
00:17:55.620 --> 00:18:03.090 Albert Dabah: My ex wife read every script gave me her opinion when she first saw the film. I'll never forget.
00:18:04.110 --> 00:18:08.250 Albert Dabah: I had a girlfriend at the time, or sitting next to my ex wife who were still friends with
00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:22.290 Albert Dabah: She was sitting next to her and she leaned over my ex wife right after this. She saw the film on the big screen, which was amazing. We showed it to cast crew and family and friends in this beautiful theater in the city.
00:18:23.460 --> 00:18:34.290 Albert Dabah: And she's you, she said, You knocked it out of the park and it was really a labor of love, I realized that something that I had to do eventually
00:18:35.670 --> 00:18:38.220 Albert Dabah: It and it changed. And I really saw
00:18:41.280 --> 00:19:00.210 Albert Dabah: That there was something that I really gained from a debt. I was just talking about on the previous show was that I learned so much from my brother and sister and by doing the film. I learned what I gained from that experience and
00:19:01.530 --> 00:19:10.470 Albert Dabah: My brother was a lover of baseball. He was so passionate about the baseball that that passion. He I got from him.
00:19:11.310 --> 00:19:18.780 Albert Dabah: And he's hardly talked, and the only thing ever talked to me about. He was 12 years older than me was baseball and he talked about baseball before his time.
00:19:19.620 --> 00:19:32.310 Albert Dabah: So he was really like last when I talked to him about my own baseball that I was playing or about baseball professional baseball to time he wasn't interested. I mean, he was it's kind of interested in my own baseball, to some degree.
00:19:33.630 --> 00:19:40.350 Albert Dabah: And my sister and I, again, she was 10 years older than me. We were like best friends. And when I lost her
00:19:42.690 --> 00:19:51.060 Albert Dabah: It was years later, and I knew she was suffering for quite a while and I always tried to do whatever I could to help and
00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:57.540 Albert Dabah: I felt I felt I felt so guilty when she took her life and
00:19:58.860 --> 00:20:05.730 Albert Dabah: She actually even said to me, Why don't you write a story about our brother after he died. And I never thought I would write a story about both of them.
00:20:06.120 --> 00:20:07.740 Georgeann Dau: Elbert. What did you feel guilty.
00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:10.980 Albert Dabah: I felt guilty because I felt
00:20:12.420 --> 00:20:19.620 Albert Dabah: You know, there are many times she wants left for suicide notes in my one bedroom apartment. She was staying over for a few days and
00:20:21.030 --> 00:20:27.810 Albert Dabah: I came home to change because I was going out, actually my first day with my first with my wife, my ex wife.
00:20:28.530 --> 00:20:39.090 Albert Dabah: That was my first date with her and I read these notes and she was in the apartment. I said, with, with all this and we're talking now I knew she had pain and I knew she you know had these
00:20:40.140 --> 00:20:46.320 Albert Dabah: I don't know what you don't know what she was diagnosed. I DON'T THINK SHE WAS DIAGNOSED, BUT YOU WOULD SAY SHE WAS ALWAYS up and down, kind of like bipolar.
00:20:46.830 --> 00:21:03.870 Albert Dabah: But she always felt my dad didn't love her and she would tell you all these examples, and I would try to say this is his way he expresses and I was trying to logically explain to her who he was and you know it was like going in and out of her. She couldn't get it and
00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:20.850 Albert Dabah: You call me all the time. I called her all the time. We really couldn't find it in each other if she was 10 years of me. She lived in Los Angeles. We will lot when I was a teenager. She left home at 18 so I was like, you know, eight years old and
00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:24.840 Georgeann Dau: What was your so I didn't to have. What was your brother diagnosed with
00:21:25.380 --> 00:21:30.900 Albert Dabah: He was a early on, he was diagnosed schizophrenic. That's all I know, um,
00:21:31.890 --> 00:21:43.170 Georgeann Dau: What do you think about having two siblings that were challenged in this way cuz I know the way I'm trying to take off my sweater. I know the way you depict your parents.
00:21:44.010 --> 00:21:54.000 Georgeann Dau: On the in the movie. And obviously that was accurate in your perception. So what do you think their part was in in this
00:21:55.500 --> 00:21:57.510 Albert Dabah: Well, they were very
00:21:57.690 --> 00:21:59.130 Georgeann Dau: Lame. There's never a blame.
00:21:59.220 --> 00:22:07.140 Albert Dabah: Well, oh, I didn't I not blame I just felt a there who this is who they were, they were very old fashion and very
00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:15.420 Albert Dabah: live their lives the way most people in the community that we grew up with their likes
00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:23.970 Albert Dabah: My father was a pretty rigid, man. This is the way you do things. This is the people we stick with this is the way you go about life. This is a plan.
00:22:24.840 --> 00:22:41.910 Albert Dabah: Now when you brought up that way and you don't feel that way about your you don't feel that that plan fits you creates conflict and there was a conflict. I know with my sister and with myself as well.
00:22:43.350 --> 00:22:47.280 Albert Dabah: With my brother is hard to say because I was much younger. And he did.
00:22:48.360 --> 00:22:50.130 Albert Dabah: You know, drop out of high school and
00:22:51.750 --> 00:23:03.090 Albert Dabah: He really just sat alone, he was in mental hospitals and all that. So I think I'll give I'll give you one incident that really
00:23:04.290 --> 00:23:09.210 Albert Dabah: Made me feel good when I showed the film. And one of the we show the film and a lot of
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:21.780 Albert Dabah: film festivals and once I'm film festivals and we showed it some synagogues and once in a guy came up to me afterwards and said it was in Great Neck, New York. He said, you know what I loved about your film.
00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:26.670 Albert Dabah: He goes the way you can play because I act in and I played my father and he says,
00:23:27.390 --> 00:23:33.300 Albert Dabah: The way you played your father and he goes, I grew up in the Syrian Jewish community in Brooklyn. Now I live in Great Neck.
00:23:33.750 --> 00:23:53.370 Albert Dabah: But your father. The way you just created that character was remind me of every single Syrian father. I grew up with of who I met and it made me feel good and made me feel like yeah to, you know, to a great extent, yes. So that's who they were and
00:23:54.960 --> 00:24:03.930 Albert Dabah: Yet there's a part of me that always feels that because you are this certain way. It doesn't mean you can change and
00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:05.700 Georgeann Dau: Absolutely with it.
00:24:06.540 --> 00:24:09.360 Albert Dabah: Yeah, with help and I
00:24:10.530 --> 00:24:30.720 Albert Dabah: I another gentleman right at the film asked me, how did you deal with such. How did you deal with such a mean father. Am I right, I just said I never felt he was mean at all. Never. I didn't agree with how he wanted me to live. I was disappointed about his
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.120 Albert Dabah: Not wanting to share anything of my love for baseball
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:43.320 Albert Dabah: So, but I never felt mean. I mean, I felt loved and I god that I felt loved
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:56.640 Georgeann Dau: Yeah, well, you, you. You've well you to picked it as a young man in the film, which you were playing your father, but it was yourself, Michael. Right. Wasn't that it
00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:59.790 Georgeann Dau: Is always a boy's name.
00:25:00.120 --> 00:25:01.230 Albert Dabah: Of the boys and David
00:25:01.500 --> 00:25:08.910 Georgeann Dau: David. That's right. You grow you grow to love the characters I'm terrible with names across the board, but David I'm
00:25:10.320 --> 00:25:13.380 Georgeann Dau: You came up against your dad David came up against.
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:22.560 Georgeann Dau: Your dad and I think that might have been missing from your sister and your first, your brother, your older brother.
00:25:22.770 --> 00:25:26.040 Georgeann Dau: Yeah. Um, yeah. And yeah.
00:25:26.490 --> 00:25:27.960 Georgeann Dau: And I'm the youngest right
00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:32.460 Albert Dabah: Yeah, and I think I had that ADVANTAGE BEING THE YOUNGEST to
00:25:32.910 --> 00:25:39.930 Albert Dabah: Absolutely front of me and I did go against them. I mean, you know, many people ask me why, how much of the picture is
00:25:40.380 --> 00:25:49.410 Albert Dabah: Most of the film is true and on percent answer. I can't, I can't give you that I very, you know, right out of my mouth says I can't tell you what's true. I mean,
00:25:49.860 --> 00:26:03.540 Albert Dabah: It's all true in my eyes the feelings of it. How I display it in the film I you have to take a lifetime and put it into two hours and make it connect and be dramatic and have a beginning, middle, and an end and
00:26:04.410 --> 00:26:15.810 Albert Dabah: That's that's the challenge and but I did confront him and have these talks with him, like there is at the end of the film. I think one of the most meaningful.
00:26:17.010 --> 00:26:24.090 Albert Dabah: Lines that David says in the film to his father is you don't know who I am. You really don't know who I am, yes.
00:26:24.180 --> 00:26:34.500 Georgeann Dau: That's right. Well, it's pretty hard. And it's funny because I just read before you got on about miracles and magic and being open in life.
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:44.400 Georgeann Dau: When we go through life like an oak tree super rigid, it's very hard to be open to know who who anyone is except yourself.
00:26:44.850 --> 00:26:58.530 Georgeann Dau: Because none of us really see things as they are, we really only see things as we are. So on that note before we go into the next topic with Albert, we're going to take a quick
00:26:59.550 --> 00:27:04.620 Georgeann Dau: 32nd break. Thank you for joining us on a journey through into awareness.
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00:29:28.800 --> 00:29:52.380 Georgeann Dau: Welcome back to the journey through into awareness. I'm Dr. George and for those just joining us and our special guest tonight is Albert Taba creator of the incredible Amazon movie called extra innings and his radio show here on talk radio dot NYC called extra innings.
00:29:53.580 --> 00:30:03.390 Georgeann Dau: So, Albert, what's, what is the message you want to get out with the radio show called extra innings. What are you hoping to achieve with the radio show was podcast.
00:30:05.250 --> 00:30:05.880 Albert Dabah: Well,
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:14.400 Albert Dabah: What I'd like to do is have different people on the show. We've had four shows so far.
00:30:15.510 --> 00:30:29.850 Albert Dabah: And that have a sensitivity to the fact of what the film is about and to get their experiences from their own work, their own
00:30:30.990 --> 00:30:50.190 Albert Dabah: Social being of who they are, what they do and how they see things so I just had a wonderful woman who's a writing coach, so to speak, but she's so much more than that. She's helped me express myself my writing.
00:30:51.720 --> 00:31:02.550 Albert Dabah: I've had a woman on who's with Nami the national lines of mental illness to really talk about her work and mental illness and what it's about. And she has a program called
00:31:06.810 --> 00:31:24.690 Albert Dabah: break the silence. And to me, and I also had to cast members from the film, one who played the younger, David. It was two characters who played my character, a young kid and the older one so I had him and the older brother.
00:31:25.110 --> 00:31:26.100 Georgeann Dau: Both were great.
00:31:26.460 --> 00:31:41.130 Albert Dabah: Yeah, they were they were so wonderful and they were wonderful on the show the podcast. So what I'm trying to do is I'm going to get some sports people on. And the idea is, and I came up with this.
00:31:42.270 --> 00:31:52.500 Albert Dabah: extra innings. And then I was talking to a friend who loves the film. I never met her. She called me out of the blue one day she lives in San Francisco. She's got a great heart.
00:31:53.100 --> 00:32:08.130 Albert Dabah: And we talk a lot. My name is Lynn and she said, Why don't you. Oh, that's great. Extra extra innings. His name is, why don't you say extra innings covering all the bases. So I love that. So now as our little tagline.
00:32:08.430 --> 00:32:09.060 Georgeann Dau: That's great.
00:32:09.300 --> 00:32:14.490 Albert Dabah: And it's because I really thought of, like, bringing in as many different kinds of people as possible.
00:32:15.660 --> 00:32:26.760 Albert Dabah: Have a friend who's a sculpture, who would like to have one very, very big supporter of the film. And I think when it comes down to it, which I wasn't my initial
00:32:28.320 --> 00:32:33.900 Albert Dabah: reason for wanting to do the film. But the whole idea of it kept kept kept coming up about
00:32:34.230 --> 00:32:46.890 Albert Dabah: The stigma of mental illness. My sister who's five years older than me has seven kids 62 grants 62 grandchildren and when she read the script, maybe three or four years before I shot. And she said,
00:32:47.250 --> 00:32:58.290 Albert Dabah: Please don't do this, don't make this film because if they know that it's our family, my grandchildren won't be able to get married. Wow. I mean, it blew me away.
00:32:58.530 --> 00:33:02.430 Albert Dabah: Wow talk about shame and stigma.
00:33:02.820 --> 00:33:05.430 Georgeann Dau: Well and secrecy.
00:33:05.760 --> 00:33:08.910 Albert Dabah: Uh huh. Mm hmm. And I understand it.
00:33:10.560 --> 00:33:13.980 Albert Dabah: But it's something that needs to be talked about.
00:33:14.010 --> 00:33:15.720 Georgeann Dau: There's absolutely it's
00:33:15.780 --> 00:33:18.510 Albert Dabah: It's, it's so important to talk about it.
00:33:18.870 --> 00:33:25.110 Georgeann Dau: Absolutely, and the topic of shame and secrecy needs to be talked about.
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:34.290 Georgeann Dau: Yeah, because we all go through life with it. And you can see it everywhere. I mean, I do it for a living, but
00:33:34.800 --> 00:33:42.480 Georgeann Dau: It's written all over people's faces. But when you come up against everyone and us. They are everybody's fine. I'm fine.
00:33:43.470 --> 00:33:52.200 Georgeann Dau: And you know we've all learned growing up to defend against the pain that we had in our early years.
00:33:52.950 --> 00:34:09.330 Georgeann Dau: We have to face it. That's what this show is called the journey through it is what we try to keep in the closet that makes us sick mentally and physically and you can't disconnect the two and spiritually Kansas connect the three, you know,
00:34:10.380 --> 00:34:18.270 Georgeann Dau: I love just sister in the film, and I loved I LOVED YOUR BROTHER. I, I just thought they were incredible characters and
00:34:19.860 --> 00:34:20.370 Georgeann Dau: You know,
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:29.100 Georgeann Dau: We all struggle. None of us are perfect. And the more we try to show up this perfect
00:34:30.270 --> 00:34:38.160 Georgeann Dau: With age, whatever we're trying to hide becomes more pervasive, it doesn't work.
00:34:39.180 --> 00:34:42.840 Georgeann Dau: And I did a couple of shows here talking about this.
00:34:44.340 --> 00:34:54.810 Georgeann Dau: But, you know, mental illness. We all struggle with ourselves. And you know, when I started, I think you were here. I said, you know, suicide, I mean,
00:34:56.640 --> 00:34:58.560 Georgeann Dau: I mean, there are people I know.
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:21.480 Georgeann Dau: Person. I've known that was not mentally ill and just based on desperation intense desperation lost everything very sensitive person couldn't deal with it took his life. So it's not just about mental illness. Do you think it is Albert, in your opinion, no.
00:35:21.810 --> 00:35:23.670 Albert Dabah: I don't, I think that
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:26.400 Albert Dabah: We all
00:35:27.600 --> 00:35:32.280 Albert Dabah: We all have issues to deal with. We've all felt
00:35:33.150 --> 00:35:41.220 Albert Dabah: Embarrassed shame. We all felt guilt. There's also, you know, growing up, you're not supposed to do this, you shouldn't do that. You shouldn't feel this way.
00:35:41.550 --> 00:35:51.630 Albert Dabah: Whatever it is, how you doing, I'm fine. You know, right. What does that mean I tell people a story that you know my company Simba productions.
00:35:52.350 --> 00:36:04.080 Albert Dabah: When I first started, I didn't, I didn't really know what I was going to be doing. I started doing actor wheel. So I got into the whole party circuit weddings and shooting weddings bar mitzvahs it was beginning of video is like
00:36:05.370 --> 00:36:13.110 Albert Dabah: I would shoot these one year old birthday parties and get on the floor with the kids and I really got to, you know, see people through this lens.
00:36:13.650 --> 00:36:21.120 Albert Dabah: And I realized that when I was a kid, I was invited to a lot of weddings from the Syrian Jewish community we're
00:36:21.450 --> 00:36:34.260 Albert Dabah: Kind of a real big clan and lot of cousins and all that. I remember like 789 10 YEARS OLD, BEING AT THESE like before the weddings listening to people talking and cocktail hours and say, what are they talking about
00:36:34.740 --> 00:36:39.270 Albert Dabah: What, what's, what's really going on because no one seems to be talking about anything really right.
00:36:39.720 --> 00:36:48.210 Georgeann Dau: And it's not so dissimilar today. Mm hmm. It's really not so dissimilar to them. Yeah, yeah.
00:36:48.870 --> 00:36:57.630 Albert Dabah: And I think that to talk about what's really going on with you. I mean, I think we as a whole.
00:36:59.370 --> 00:37:09.240 Albert Dabah: The more empathic we can be towards people, the more we can sense, something's wrong and bring it up, the better it is.
00:37:09.870 --> 00:37:26.760 Albert Dabah: And you can tell someone hey you know you should I know someone who does suffer a lot from anxiety and I said, You need to go for help. You really it you should def I went once. All right. Well, it didn't work will go to see someone else right
00:37:28.050 --> 00:37:29.310 Good, good point.
00:37:30.330 --> 00:37:47.640 Georgeann Dau: So I know that you want to, you know, break the silence on this stigma and it's I'm so proud of you, what you're doing here, it's it's life, it can be. It has the potential to be life changing for humanity in so many ways. Um,
00:37:49.980 --> 00:37:55.830 Georgeann Dau: What's your hope that the film. What's your hope, how the film will address it. What's your hope.
00:37:57.870 --> 00:38:05.880 Albert Dabah: Well, I've always said this from the beginning, you know, I put a lot of my own money into it, but we also had a fiscal partner.
00:38:06.990 --> 00:38:16.350 Albert Dabah: With a suicide prevention agency called Save Dr. Dan Rosenberg read the script. And after you read the script. He came to my studio there in Minnesota.
00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:30.000 Albert Dabah: But he happened to be in New York. The following week and we were talking back and forth. And I said, finally, what would you think about the script doctor and he goes, well, there was a typo on page 110 I go, oh,
00:38:31.620 --> 00:38:33.000 Albert Dabah: And then he goes, Albert. I loved it.
00:38:33.090 --> 00:38:36.720 Georgeann Dau: I thought it was so. Okay, good. I was gonna say oh my
00:38:36.720 --> 00:38:55.800 Albert Dabah: God, he was great. He's, he's been such a great supporter of the film. So basically, we were able to accept donations that were protected the pool that helped. So what would I really want is as many people to see it as possible. I mean, that I've said that from the beginning, um,
00:38:57.540 --> 00:39:05.850 Albert Dabah: I, I didn't realize it, but there was a time I always I love film. I always love film. Many people love films, you know, I'm a film buff.
00:39:08.730 --> 00:39:23.610 Albert Dabah: And I think I always had this secret desire to I had this always desire to act and I did some acting and while I went my to get my MSW degree that's when I first started acting and I didn't go right away into into into graduate school and
00:39:24.630 --> 00:39:31.650 Albert Dabah: So I discovered that creative part of me and I loved it and I was in Florida. And anyway, long story short, I came back to New York and
00:39:32.100 --> 00:39:34.740 Georgeann Dau: I'm sorry to what we saw me your points that you acted
00:39:34.950 --> 00:39:36.810 Georgeann Dau: Because you really did a great. I thought you
00:39:37.020 --> 00:39:44.970 Albert Dabah: Read in the family, um, you know, I actually my first play was singing and dancing, which I never did before I did anything whatever that was supposed to do.
00:39:45.210 --> 00:39:45.840 Georgeann Dau: That's fun.
00:39:46.020 --> 00:40:03.780 Albert Dabah: And these are all theater pieces. So it was mostly theater. I played a really when I came back to New York and got a role in his drama which was great. It was the second lead and was about being this tough guy and but he was a sensitive, tough guy. And that was a
00:40:04.020 --> 00:40:05.100 Georgeann Dau: Great voice for it.
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:14.850 Albert Dabah: Oh, thank you. I took okay boys. I wanted to audition for summer stock, not because of musicals, because there was all these great dramas except one musical
00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:26.760 Albert Dabah: So I said, I can sing. So I went to this voice teacher and I said is English George, I said, George, can you teach me how to sing in one week because I got this edition next week and I know I was kidding but I was serious.
00:40:27.270 --> 00:40:39.600 Albert Dabah: So we work on. I studied with him for a year and I did, I did go to Philadelphia. I drove there for like, you know, two hours there waited a half hour did my thing. And the middle of the song. OK, that's it.
00:40:40.590 --> 00:40:51.150 Albert Dabah: And I did my monologue and you know didn't get anywhere with it but it got me out there. Right. And then I have a question for all these musicals, even just to get addition experience.
00:40:51.150 --> 00:41:01.680 Albert Dabah: Create and so I love acting and then with my video business, you know, wasn't like I just said one day, I want to do a film. I learned a lot about filming lighting.
00:41:01.980 --> 00:41:10.980 Albert Dabah: Sound, even though like I tell people you don't. I was interviewed the other day and I said, you know, this is what would you tell a filmmaker or young filmmaker.
00:41:12.120 --> 00:41:17.310 Albert Dabah: And she said to me, when did you make the film. I said, well, actually was May finished you finished, about a year and a half, two years ago.
00:41:17.970 --> 00:41:29.850 Albert Dabah: She called How old are you, so I said, well, I'm 69 after your first film was 267 I said yeah so she goes, Well, it's never too late. Everybody's never too late and I realized it for the first time, you know,
00:41:30.240 --> 00:41:32.850 Georgeann Dau: Yeah, my gosh. Absolutely. You
00:41:32.850 --> 00:41:33.150 Have
00:41:34.740 --> 00:41:36.540 Georgeann Dau: You're going to live a very long time.
00:41:36.990 --> 00:41:39.390 Georgeann Dau: And you have a lot of film to make your very
00:41:39.390 --> 00:41:40.770 Georgeann Dau: Gifted and Talented
00:41:41.040 --> 00:41:47.040 Albert Dabah: Thank you. Thank you. So I find, like, um, you know, the idea of
00:41:48.540 --> 00:41:52.890 Albert Dabah: I was the guest. I had on my show, just before name is Nancy irony, who's a
00:41:53.940 --> 00:42:02.670 Albert Dabah: I've taken five writing workshops with her, but this was after I finished writing the script and she's taught me so I learned so much just by
00:42:03.870 --> 00:42:18.270 Albert Dabah: About expression about being vulnerable about talking about your pain writing about your pain writing about whatever it is and I think that's all part of if you want to talk about stigma about D stigmatizing
00:42:19.350 --> 00:42:25.380 Albert Dabah: The idea that you have pain and dealing with it because we all have pain. We all have something that we've had.
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:26.640 Georgeann Dau: It will have my goodness.
00:42:27.210 --> 00:42:38.340 Albert Dabah: I mean, there's, you know, we're all gonna pass on, you know, and, and there's a lot, and especially now with the whole covert thing makes things worse for everybody. So we have to adapt.
00:42:38.850 --> 00:42:49.860 Albert Dabah: And and i think so. The one thing I wanted to say was in making the film. What I really learned was is that I just wanted to do the best I could.
00:42:50.370 --> 00:42:59.760 Albert Dabah: And at some point I realized it's not going to be perfect. Don't go for perfect just go for the best you can. The people you hire trust them.
00:43:00.540 --> 00:43:13.740 Albert Dabah: And you get what you get. And then you, you know, you can edit it and you can play with it and do all kinds of things with this and I had two wonderful editors and a great cinematographer and
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:25.860 Albert Dabah: You know, I had a co director who was great guy. Good, good friend of mine, but he was getting impatient ally and one day was the second week
00:43:26.370 --> 00:43:38.010 Albert Dabah: It was early in the morning 11 o'clock and and where's this where's that you know you're looking for these props normal can find this apron. It's freaking out a little bit. Nicholas. How do you stay so calm, he said to me, and I said,
00:43:39.450 --> 00:43:40.530 Albert Dabah: I'm learning every day.
00:43:41.640 --> 00:43:46.020 Albert Dabah: And it just came to me and that's what it was about. It's so great.
00:43:46.680 --> 00:43:48.660 Georgeann Dau: I would imagine that emotionally
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.110 Georgeann Dau: What an exercise for you.
00:43:53.160 --> 00:44:02.220 Georgeann Dau: As a man to write this script and then to act in it, how much you must have grown emotionally
00:44:04.380 --> 00:44:07.710 Georgeann Dau: Through that process. You could you couldn't not
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.990 Georgeann Dau: Even your father. If it dad's. Is that a life.
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:14.610 Albert Dabah: No. No. Oh.
00:44:14.700 --> 00:44:28.860 Georgeann Dau: Even dad. Um, if he had been alive and wrote that script, he would have had to change because it was that intense. It was that needy. It was that tender. It had so much feeling to it.
00:44:29.580 --> 00:44:46.740 Georgeann Dau: I just loved it and everyone I've been told about the film they loved it. So you did such a great job with it, really. And I think you're going to be a great success, um, you know, getting your message out and any thoughts on
00:44:48.090 --> 00:44:49.890 Georgeann Dau: What a message would be for another film.
00:44:51.870 --> 00:44:54.360 Albert Dabah: Well, I have these
00:44:55.980 --> 00:45:02.880 Albert Dabah: Ideas of working on something that has to do with relationships, nothing really tangible yet.
00:45:04.350 --> 00:45:13.860 Albert Dabah: We were in the Miami Jewish Film Festival. I never forget this, and the head of the festival comes to me. They took us all out all the directors out there were there for that day and said, hey,
00:45:14.520 --> 00:45:28.290 Albert Dabah: You know, let's have lunch and it was nice lunch and I'm leaving and the director young guy puts his arm around me says thank you, Albert so much, I love your film goes you know what's next. And I go, Well, we're going to be in this next
00:45:29.490 --> 00:45:33.450 Albert Dabah: Festival. Another goes, nobody writing with your next thing that you're writing
00:45:34.350 --> 00:45:43.020 Albert Dabah: And it took me by surprise. And I know in my mind I have these thoughts have something to do with relationships and love and loss and
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:55.110 Albert Dabah: How relationships work and and I'm in the beginning, the six months of a new relationship and it's fabulous. And what I've been learning more than ever, is about
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:14.160 Albert Dabah: Really, you know, she says, I'm an open book, you know, I, and I am. I mean, I'll talk about how I feel. I think it's so important to communicate even on the smallest ads because you don't know what someone's really thinking on the other side. Sometimes, yes.
00:46:14.850 --> 00:46:18.270 Georgeann Dau: I work with a lot of couples. I do a lot of relationship work.
00:46:18.510 --> 00:46:22.200 Georgeann Dau: Yeah, so if you if you just need to pick my brain. I'm here for you.
00:46:22.620 --> 00:46:26.580 Georgeann Dau: Okay, yeah, I think it's a great idea. And I think it's much needed
00:46:27.570 --> 00:46:30.510 Georgeann Dau: Yeah, I think most relationships don't work well.
00:46:31.470 --> 00:46:42.240 Albert Dabah: Yeah, I think there's a way to, you know, from all the different relationships I have, I find, I've never been in one quite like this where
00:46:42.660 --> 00:46:43.590 Georgeann Dau: There, that's great.
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:48.540 Albert Dabah: Such a you know where the same right around the same age, and there's such a
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:55.260 Albert Dabah: Nice feeling between us and we laugh a lot which is so important.
00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:01.110 Albert Dabah: She laughed so much she when she left, she said she gets tears, and it's
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:03.060 Albert Dabah: So sweet.
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:07.560 Georgeann Dau: That's great. So she feels step fully she feels deeply. That's great.
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:08.520 Albert Dabah: Does she feel
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:09.810 Albert Dabah: Great. Yeah.
00:47:10.140 --> 00:47:10.920 Georgeann Dau: What's her name.
00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:12.180 Albert Dabah: Her name is Lizzie.
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:13.350 Georgeann Dau: Lizzie. Nice.
00:47:13.500 --> 00:47:14.970 Georgeann Dau: And did you meet Lizzie.
00:47:15.210 --> 00:47:27.450 Albert Dabah: We met you know during coven we, you know, had her mass on until you know we we ate outside, it was back in July. It's exactly six months to the day today and
00:47:28.680 --> 00:47:30.630 Albert Dabah: We met on match and
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.980 Albert Dabah: Oh, and she came we showed the film in a drive in in westhampton
00:47:39.390 --> 00:47:40.440 Georgeann Dau: Oh, wow.
00:47:40.590 --> 00:47:42.330 Albert Dabah: Yeah, that was that was about
00:47:43.050 --> 00:47:47.550 Georgeann Dau: About a month after we met didn't know that that drive ins were still around. That's fantastic.
00:47:47.850 --> 00:47:55.710 Albert Dabah: This wasn't this wasn't driving that was put up. I think it was all every summer. They have one is part of the synagogue in westhampton
00:47:55.950 --> 00:47:57.420 Georgeann Dau: Oh, because it clove and Jimmy
00:47:57.780 --> 00:48:07.170 Albert Dabah: I don't know. I'm not sure if it was because of coven or I had a feeling that they always do it, but I've been. It was about 25 to 30 cars and
00:48:07.770 --> 00:48:14.880 Albert Dabah: We were referred to this westhampton synagogue by the chase the Jewish Community Center in New York City on Amsterdam Avenue, where we
00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:24.300 Albert Dabah: Will be showed the film. And it was such a fun experience. And she came there with me. And we had such a great time together. You know, we went to the beach. The next day, and
00:48:25.170 --> 00:48:41.700 Albert Dabah: It was beautiful weather we both like the bike ride and it was all these farms and wine wineries around and it was really like the beginning of, you know, going away and getting to know each other more and and it was great seeing the film outside
00:48:42.180 --> 00:48:43.710 Georgeann Dau: Oh, I bet on a big screen.
00:48:44.160 --> 00:48:56.970 Albert Dabah: Yeah yeah and i thought was going to maybe bring some dinky screen, but it was a nice screen, the sound comes through your radio. Now, the way they do drive ins, but there are driving so we reached out to a few and but that was fun.
00:49:01.740 --> 00:49:02.220 Georgeann Dau: So,
00:49:05.550 --> 00:49:09.390 Georgeann Dau: Is there anything that you want the audience to take away from tonight's show
00:49:10.710 --> 00:49:11.280 Albert Dabah: Um,
00:49:11.370 --> 00:49:16.890 Albert Dabah: Message yeah I guess what I would like to let people know is that
00:49:19.140 --> 00:49:24.240 Albert Dabah: You know, I was told someone in New Orleans came up
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:26.220 Albert Dabah: At the end of the
00:49:27.240 --> 00:49:27.840 Albert Dabah: Talk.
00:49:29.310 --> 00:49:30.300 Albert Dabah: Said that he said
00:49:31.380 --> 00:49:52.260 Albert Dabah: I don't have a question. I just wanted to say, I love the film and you're so courageous for making this film. And I never thought of it as courageous and I think from just listening to it with I spoke with Nancy about that. I think we all have the courage within us.
00:49:52.950 --> 00:49:57.480 Georgeann Dau: We do an Albert, forgive me. Oh, I want to hear more about that. We're going to take a quick break.
00:49:58.230 --> 00:50:07.020 Georgeann Dau: We'll come. Okay, so we're gonna take a quick break, you're here with us to Georgia and down with journey through and Albert Taba. We'll be right back. Thank you.
00:50:12.990 --> 00:50:13.170 And
00:52:29.250 --> 00:52:44.130 Georgeann Dau: Hi, welcome back. So, Albert, I didn't mean to cut you off. I, I, I forgot. I'm about the break. So, um, we have about three minutes left. And I'm going to do a prayer, which takes about one minute, so
00:52:45.690 --> 00:52:48.780 Georgeann Dau: Tell me, what do you want the audience to take away
00:52:50.580 --> 00:52:57.420 Albert Dabah: Well, I think I would. I want the audience to do is really watch the film and think about it and talk about it.
00:52:57.900 --> 00:53:11.250 Albert Dabah: I think that would be the best thing. Talk about what they liked what they didn't like talk about what it meant to them. If it moves them why move them. What, what, what is it that they can connect with because I think that there's really
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:18.900 Albert Dabah: Almost everyone can connect to something in it and because one thing that I've heard. And it's true. I think suicide affects everyone
00:53:20.010 --> 00:53:33.300 Georgeann Dau: Absolutely, it affects everyone. And even if they watch it and they connect with the behavior of your mother, your father David your sister, your older brother. Absolutely.
00:53:34.200 --> 00:53:49.260 Georgeann Dau: They will connect with someone in that film. It's, it's brilliantly done. So that's great. I want to thank you so much for giving me the the privilege of having you on my show tonight. Thank you.
00:53:49.590 --> 00:53:52.560 Albert Dabah: And welcome, thank you so much. It's really been a pleasure.
00:53:52.620 --> 00:53:53.760 Georgeann Dau: Yeah, it's great.
00:53:54.120 --> 00:53:59.580 Georgeann Dau: It's really great. So, let us end in prayer as we always do.
00:54:00.630 --> 00:54:14.760 Georgeann Dau: And it's funny because it's in. Well, I don't want to give it away, but I had miseries before I had asked Albert if you believed in God. And it's funny because it's in the bill. And of course, he answered. So
00:54:16.620 --> 00:54:20.220 Georgeann Dau: So let us pray. And always remember that we're in the presence of God.
00:54:22.380 --> 00:54:28.230 Georgeann Dau: By the way, thank you all for watching tonight and being part of my life, our life.
00:54:29.820 --> 00:54:32.430 Hope to see you here, next week. We have another great show.
00:54:33.510 --> 00:54:47.340 Georgeann Dau: Loving God you fill all things with the fullness and hope that we can never comprehend. Thank you for leading us into a time where more of reality is being unveiled for us all to say
00:54:48.090 --> 00:55:01.410 Georgeann Dau: We pray that you will take away our natural temptation for cynicism denial fear and despair. Help us have the courage to awaken to a greater truth.
00:55:02.100 --> 00:55:19.410 Georgeann Dau: Greater humility and greater care for one another man we place our hope in what matters. And what lasts trusting in your eternal presence and love listen to our hearts longings for the healing and I was suffering world.
00:55:20.670 --> 00:55:31.770 Georgeann Dau: Knowing Good God, you are hearing us better than we are speaking we offer these prayers and all of the holy names of God. Amen.
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:45.540 Georgeann Dau: Thank you very much blessings upon you and I look forward to seeing you here next week. May God bless you. Thank you and good night. Thank you. Albert. Thank you.