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Tuesday, November 17, 2020
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2020/11/17 - Central Park West, Past to Present

[NEW EPISODE] Central Park West, Past to Present

On this week’s show we will visit one of New York’s grand and most storied, avenues, Central Park West, from its place as an outlying part of New York that was distant from the main life of the City as the park was designed and constructed, to its development as a grand residential boulevard.

My guest will be Rediscovering New York regular and the show’s Special Consultant, David Griffin of Landmark Branding, https://landmarkbranding.com.

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Segment 1

Jeff introduces his first and only guest David Griffin of Landmark Branding. David explains his background of growing up in Long Island and eventually getting involved with NYC history. He was inspired by the dioramas his mother would make of places they would visit when he was young. Jeff asks David about the game of tops in 19th century New York and their history. They move on to talking about Central Park West and where its name comes from. Jeff asks David what the first buildings on CPW were. Initially, the park area was very seedy and dirty but became more affluent once wealthy people started investing in the neighborhood. The development was stimulated by luxury apartment buildings like the Dakota being built in the neighborhood. 

Segment 2

Jeff asks about the Dakota’s architectural style, which is unique because of its German renaissance look. The Dakota was famed for its many luxuries and celebrity guests over the years. Moving on to the Langham hotel, Jeff and David discuss some of its famous guests and amenities like the ice maker on every floor.

Segment 3

Jeff asks David about the inspiration behind his business, Landmark Branding. David explains the services he provides and also talks about his upcoming book project. David and Jeff then discuss the Prasada, a building with some of the most elegant interiors on Central Park West. They talk about some of the buildings built in the 60s that had a more abstract design. Many artists ended up renting the studio apartments in these buildings. David brings up the Majestic hotel, which used to be a hub for organized crime families. They discuss various films shot in and around Central Park West hotels.   

Segment 4

David brings up the Beresford hotel, which has inspired numerous books and movies. They had legal problems that held up its restoration, but luckily they were solved in 2001. Jeff brings up the first Church of Christ Scientists, which is an underrated and beautiful building in the city. French churches very much inspire their architecture. Central Park West also holds the oldest Jewish congregation in America. They end by talking about the Museum of Natural History, which is one of the most well-known museums in the country. 


Transcript

00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:50.610 Jeff Goodman: Hello everyone. Welcome to our listeners in the Big Apple from across the US and around the world. I'm Jeff Goodman and like every week on Tuesdays at 7pm you've tuned into rediscovering New York

00:00:51.540 --> 00:00:57.510 Jeff Goodman: Professionally, I'm a real estate broker with brown hair Stevens and as most of you know I love this city.

00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:13.650 Jeff Goodman: rediscovering New York as a weekly program about the history texture and vibe of our amazing city and we do it through interviews with historians local business owners nonprofit organizations preservationists local musicians and artists and the occasional elected official

00:01:14.700 --> 00:01:22.650 Jeff Goodman: On some shows like tonight's we focus on an individual New York neighborhood or more to the point of street exploring its history and its current energy

00:01:23.130 --> 00:01:36.270 Jeff Goodman: What makes that particular new your place special sometimes, kind of like tonight. It's sort of a hybrid show we host shows about an interesting and vital color of the city and its history. That's not focused on one particular neighborhood.

00:01:37.860 --> 00:01:48.480 Jeff Goodman: On prior episodes. You've heard us cover topics is diverse and illuminating is talking about American presidents who came from lived in or had some interesting history here in the city, about half of them.

00:01:49.410 --> 00:01:56.820 Jeff Goodman: Show a couple, couple weeks ago talked about the history of New Yorkers who ran for president, which was another really interesting show

00:01:57.750 --> 00:02:04.290 Jeff Goodman: We've talked about the history of women activists in the women's suffrage movement in the city. We've looked at the history of African Americans.

00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:14.910 Jeff Goodman: Who were here actually back to the time of the Dutch we've looked at the city's LGBT community and the gay rights movement, we've explored the history of bicycles and cycling.

00:02:15.390 --> 00:02:22.140 Jeff Goodman: We've looked at the history of punk and Opera. We've looked at our public libraries. We actually have three of them in New York.

00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:32.160 Jeff Goodman: We visited a couple of our train stations cross some of our bridges. We have great bridges in New York and even talked about the history of coffee and tea in the city.

00:02:32.820 --> 00:02:42.000 Jeff Goodman: Something has to fuel, New York, and it's caffeine. Sometimes after the broadcast. You can catch our episodes on podcast. You can hear us on Apple

00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:55.290 Jeff Goodman: Spotify SoundCloud Stitcher. And you can find us on other services, tonight we're going to sort of look at in a bit, but more particularly a street a boulevard a grand boulevard Central Park West

00:02:55.950 --> 00:03:05.250 Jeff Goodman: And our. This is such a profound episode Boulevard. We're going to look at tonight that we're actually going to have one guest instead of two. There's a lot to talk about.

00:03:05.610 --> 00:03:13.320 Jeff Goodman: And my guest is returning rediscovering New York guest and the show special consultants David Griffin of landmark branding.

00:03:14.160 --> 00:03:23.490 Jeff Goodman: David is a lifelong architectural enthusiastic providing creative sales enhancing services for the national real estate community. He's the founder and CEO of landmark branding.

00:03:24.180 --> 00:03:29.790 Jeff Goodman: His clients include architects and design firms in addition to developers brokers and marketing companies.

00:03:30.450 --> 00:03:36.450 Jeff Goodman: David co host a series called room at the top. It's Co hosted with Jennifer Wallace of nascent aren't New York

00:03:36.780 --> 00:03:43.260 Jeff Goodman: It's the only ongoing networking and get together series and real estate to the future tours of Manhattan's greatest buildings.

00:03:44.100 --> 00:03:51.870 Jeff Goodman: David is quite published his latest blog is called every building on Fifth it documents every single building on Fifth Avenue.

00:03:52.290 --> 00:03:58.410 Jeff Goodman: So if you think that covering all these buildings in Central Park West this evening as a big thing you want to check that blog out

00:03:58.860 --> 00:04:14.550 Jeff Goodman: He goes from Washington Square right up to where Fifth Avenue ends at the Harlem River in Harlem David's writing has appeared in real estate weekly Metropolis to well and the National Trust preservation magazine David a warm and hearty welcome back to rediscovering New York

00:04:15.210 --> 00:04:16.830 David V. Griffin: Jeff, it's always good to be here.

00:04:17.880 --> 00:04:30.960 Jeff Goodman: You're a regular and some of our listeners know you and your background, but we have growing listeners and I see that on our podcast numbers every week. Some people don't know about you and your background, you are from the metropolitan area, but not the city itself, at least on originally

00:04:31.620 --> 00:04:45.480 David V. Griffin: Know I grew up on Long Island until I was about 12 and then move with my family up to the Hudson River Valley where I am today, I did live in New York for a while. Post college passer, as you well know, being a basket grad yourself.

00:04:46.590 --> 00:04:51.120 David V. Griffin: But yeah, I am a sort of New York area residents, as well as

00:04:53.190 --> 00:05:10.320 Jeff Goodman: I'm always fascinated by by people's inspirations and you know what had them take up the study with the appreciation of bringing great things about New York to other people. How did you get interested in architectural history and in New York's history in particular.

00:05:11.190 --> 00:05:22.440 David V. Griffin: Well, my mother would create these dioramas of cities. We're going to visit when we were traveling essentially Montreal where my father's family came from.

00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:31.800 David V. Griffin: And I remember her like pointing out different elements of cities and it's sort of like kind of keyed my eye into, like, oh, that's this type of building. I saw the title.

00:05:32.970 --> 00:05:42.570 David V. Griffin: When my siblings and I was still all children. We were actually the first film to be hired by the New York State Parks Department to service costume interpreters.

00:05:43.230 --> 00:05:59.010 David V. Griffin: At the old Bethpage restoration site. So we would go to the old Bethpage site for the autumn fair and dress up in period costume and kind of demonstrate toys and games and

00:05:59.670 --> 00:06:08.130 David V. Griffin: bicycles and things of that nature that were there at that time. And we had a chance to actually stay over sometimes in the building's themselves, which were from the

00:06:08.730 --> 00:06:26.040 David V. Griffin: 1780s, to the 1850s. And I think that really a walker kind of a curiosity and me to sort of see how historical buildings existed, how they had come about, who had built them what turns, they have taken and it led to a lifelong interest. I think in architecture.

00:06:27.840 --> 00:06:38.400 Jeff Goodman: Now actually want to ask you a question about 19th century games I'm I have a listing that's in contract. Now it's an extraordinary House in Fort Greene, it's 33 feet wide and it's right on the park.

00:06:38.820 --> 00:06:56.400 Jeff Goodman: And the first owner was a toy manufacturer and above the door posts, there are all of these round things that almost look like they could have been toys were what tops really big in in the late 19th century, as far as kids games were around part of the tops.

00:06:56.460 --> 00:07:02.640 David V. Griffin: Tops have been a they were definitely a thing from probably the 18th century onwards, not earlier.

00:07:03.900 --> 00:07:13.110 David V. Griffin: Tops. As you may know, actually played a certain role and some religious games that were played during holiday seasons.

00:07:14.100 --> 00:07:32.520 David V. Griffin: The cradle, I believe, as a form of a top so it was definitely a children's game that was associated with the Jewish holidays so yeah tops were were very, very popular and musical tops, where you know where you would press the top of the top and the road actually play music

00:07:33.540 --> 00:07:46.950 David V. Griffin: Were things that existed in the from the 20s on through the 50s and 60s. And I remember seeing a couple examples of those when I was a kid that are go on to my mother and mother family members. So yeah, I would say that's a possibility for

00:07:47.550 --> 00:07:54.300 Jeff Goodman: Fact on the side. I'd love to show you this House, we should do it before the closing in a couple of weeks when you're when you're in town. I think you'd really appreciate it.

00:07:56.100 --> 00:07:59.760 Jeff Goodman: Central Park West talking about streets on Parks.

00:08:01.020 --> 00:08:15.060 Jeff Goodman: We're going to talk about its architectural history and some of the great buildings, but first I want to talk about the history of it in the background of it first. When, when did the street take on the name Central Park West because if they couldn't. It wasn't its original name.

00:08:16.320 --> 00:08:29.460 David V. Griffin: No, it was called Eighth Avenue originally went and opened in 1816 and as we began to see a wave of new development. Finally, rendering the street address profitable in a sense.

00:08:30.150 --> 00:08:36.600 David V. Griffin: People felt Eighth Avenue just wasn't dignified enough a daddy was too much sort of associated with the slaughter houses.

00:08:37.290 --> 00:08:44.250 David V. Griffin: You know, kind of disreputable kind of neighborhood. So we're down to the south, which, of course, now the Meatpacking District glamorous areas city.

00:08:44.910 --> 00:08:51.540 David V. Griffin: But they protested the city council to change the name of the street and was changed in 1883 to Central Park West

00:08:52.140 --> 00:09:04.170 David V. Griffin: Central Park South Central Park North all came into sort of effect during that same time, it was mentioned about the fact that the buildings that had that address had direct frontage on to Central Park itself.

00:09:05.670 --> 00:09:19.140 Jeff Goodman: I also want to give a shout out to the reference folks to New York Public Library, who helped provide some material. So thank you very much. New York Public Library. We've actually had guests from the library on other episodes and I was

00:09:19.590 --> 00:09:28.140 Jeff Goodman: It was interesting to read up that even though the grid was planted at 11 and you know the as the city was developed streets would get surveyed

00:09:28.680 --> 00:09:35.940 Jeff Goodman: But some of the science streets bordering the park. We're not even laid out until the 1880s on the west side they were on the east side before them.

00:09:36.390 --> 00:09:45.570 Jeff Goodman: And in 1865 the commissioners of the park were authorized to complete the laying out of the streets west of the park which hadn't been which hadn't been completed.

00:09:46.950 --> 00:09:58.710 Jeff Goodman: We see really grand buildings there today. David, what kinds of structures were on Central Park before the buildings we know today we're built. Certainly they had to have been other buildings there. They just couldn't have first put up these apartment buildings.

00:09:59.220 --> 00:10:08.700 David V. Griffin: Well, the interesting thing is, is that the Upper West Side first developed around the Broadway corner right away. You have to understand was the main North, South Korea, or in Manhattan at the time.

00:10:09.030 --> 00:10:19.830 David V. Griffin: And it was also the street that led up to the Harlem river and passed into Westchester County became the main North sort of north south thoroughfare went to New York City.

00:10:20.610 --> 00:10:23.040 David V. Griffin: So Broadway became the place that was developed.

00:10:23.610 --> 00:10:32.970 David V. Griffin: First and central park itself remain calm sporadic. There were some very luxurious town houses that were built face in the park and sort of little groups here and there.

00:10:33.270 --> 00:10:46.470 David V. Griffin: But the panic of 1873 really did a number on luxury development in New York. And it wasn't until a 10 year period past that we begin to see luxury buildings again becoming part of that social fabric.

00:10:46.830 --> 00:10:56.010 David V. Griffin: Prior to that, Central Park West was kind of a disaster. It was a bit of a mishmash as was FIFTH AVENUE NORTH OF let's say six feet and for the same reasons.

00:10:56.700 --> 00:11:03.270 David V. Griffin: You know, the financial crisis is and are quite knowing whether or not the park itself is kind of a viable address

00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:12.090 David V. Griffin: So you add things like you know the little old wouldn't buildings that have been there before the laying out of the grid remnants of Seneca village, which was

00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:22.680 David V. Griffin: A free black community. The first drove after American free community in New York City. You had rather lose hotels that went up.

00:11:23.820 --> 00:11:26.670 Jeff Goodman: Hotels not not CD but Loose specific

00:11:26.850 --> 00:11:36.900 David V. Griffin: Yes, Lucia, I would say, sort of hotels geared towards the bachelor lifestyle. So of these room rather grand but they were also sort of architectural genius.

00:11:38.010 --> 00:11:48.120 David V. Griffin: And there were a lot of vacant lots. There was a lot of mud. There was a lot of rubble and there was a lot of construction Central Park West, it really becomes Central Park West until after the early age.

00:11:49.950 --> 00:11:56.280 Jeff Goodman: And in 1864 there was a horse car line that ran along Eighth Avenue that went up to the 50s.

00:11:56.730 --> 00:12:10.740 Jeff Goodman: It was extended to West at Fourth Street in 1864 that says, The park was was was being developed and then the horse cars were placed by street rail service in the 1880s, that went up to 120 fifth Street.

00:12:11.790 --> 00:12:15.330 Jeff Goodman: Of course, we have the IMD subway that was built, but that was built in the 20th

00:12:16.530 --> 00:12:32.010 Jeff Goodman: And the construction of the Ninth Avenue. Well, in the 1800s. This is before the subway was built on Broadway added to the attractiveness of the area and also fired up the land speculation, including block east to Central Park. That was a big part of

00:12:33.510 --> 00:12:40.980 Jeff Goodman: Actually the panic. I think actually the the L Train was built after the panic of 1873 it wasn't open until, until after that.

00:12:42.270 --> 00:12:46.020 Jeff Goodman: How was development stimulated along Central Park West

00:12:47.100 --> 00:12:55.860 David V. Griffin: Well, I think one of the sort of the, the bellwethers for that came with a kind of a re emergence of sort of a more

00:12:56.520 --> 00:13:04.560 David V. Griffin: Sort of a more solid consumer base in the early 80s people felt that they've weathered the kind of financial storm and then

00:13:05.100 --> 00:13:15.660 David V. Griffin: You had the development of the very first luxury apartment building. And of course, the very first one of those on Central Park West was not the first one in the entire city was the decoder.

00:13:17.310 --> 00:13:23.310 David V. Griffin: Which arrives around 1883 84 that's when they build it.

00:13:24.540 --> 00:13:30.000 David V. Griffin: It's designed by Henry James harden burgers other, better known New York works include The Plaza Hotel.

00:13:31.650 --> 00:13:47.610 David V. Griffin: Which was built in 1992 so 20 years after the color very different style of the building as MC were being built have laid masonry. And what that means is that it is a self supporting structure there isn't a steel skeleton which is

00:13:47.970 --> 00:13:54.990 Jeff Goodman: Even though rolled steel had come out like from the 1850s. Why, why, why didn't they used to. Why did they only do it on there.

00:13:55.350 --> 00:14:11.670 David V. Griffin: There are a couple of theories about that one was that the people involved in terms of the developers and the architect himself or Mason's they were leery of the idea of the steel skeleton. They felt that was not masonry. It wasn't architecture, it wasn't really building

00:14:12.900 --> 00:14:20.760 David V. Griffin: But the other thing is, is that they wanted people to feel that this was a building that was well constructed, all the way down to the foundation

00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:32.250 David V. Griffin: This is a building that actually an architect once said this building has a estimated lifetime of 600 years before it's going to need any kind of repairs at all.

00:14:32.820 --> 00:14:41.610 David V. Griffin: And I think that they overbuilt in a way to kind of prove that they were bringing a kind of new standard building to the area.

00:14:42.810 --> 00:14:49.890 David V. Griffin: And that might be another part of it but yeah the the Mason connection is also potentially reason why they did not offer still skeleton.

00:14:50.250 --> 00:14:58.050 David V. Griffin: There are some buildings in New York City, not very many of them that are sort of proto skyscrapers as the Dakota is the Dakota is 12 stories tall.

00:14:58.860 --> 00:15:07.140 David V. Griffin: It is an elevator. It is not a building that you can get to the top of by walking up the stairs. So it is actually an early skyscraper, which most people don't realize

00:15:07.530 --> 00:15:12.750 David V. Griffin: But some of the other early skyscrapers do involve basically construction because

00:15:13.260 --> 00:15:21.750 David V. Griffin: The client or the architect of the engineer made that decision and said this is the safest way to go. Snow construction feel something, we're not completely married

00:15:22.470 --> 00:15:38.280 David V. Griffin: I think it is the only laid made some people living in Central Park West in terms of very few laid masonry buildings after the period that is up to the hype. There's only two others that I could think of an all new york but it is, it's an interesting fact about

00:15:41.490 --> 00:15:58.710 Jeff Goodman: The other luxury apartment buildings that were built on Central Park West couldn't be built until electricity lines were laid out in 1896. So the question is, well, how did the Dakota do with the answer is that they generated their own power for their elevators. Yes.

00:15:58.740 --> 00:15:59.100 Jeff Goodman: They were

00:15:59.700 --> 00:16:06.210 David V. Griffin: They were fully self contained unit. And I think that standard of kind of self containment also made it attractive to

00:16:06.810 --> 00:16:21.630 David V. Griffin: Wealthy tenants. I mean, this was the first building not exactly refresh building, but the first entirely new building in a new neighborhood to really go after kind of the upper class market and they won them over and something about the Dakota

00:16:22.950 --> 00:16:34.620 Jeff Goodman: Actually, David. We're going to take a short break and when we come back we're going to continue our conversation about Central Park West and also about the Dakota, we have to talk more about that incredible building will be back in a moment.

00:16:38.400 --> 00:16:39.630 Jeff Goodman: at WWW.

00:18:47.970 --> 00:18:56.700 Jeff Goodman: We're back and you're back to rediscovering New York and the special episode about one of the grandest boulevards and all of New York, the famous Central Park West

00:18:57.120 --> 00:19:07.860 Jeff Goodman: My guest for the entire show is the famous David Griffin David CEO and founder of landmark branding. We'll talk a little about about landmark branding after the next break

00:19:08.760 --> 00:19:16.050 Jeff Goodman: We were in the middle of talking about the Dakota before I was so rudely took us off the air for for a minute and a half for some for some messages.

00:19:17.070 --> 00:19:26.310 Jeff Goodman: What's David, what's the architectural style of the Dakota and what makes it truly special in terms of how it looks to from the outside.

00:19:27.030 --> 00:19:38.580 David V. Griffin: Well, the Dakota is interesting in that it is one of the very, very few buildings in New York City. And I would say in the United States that really kind of follows what was called a German Renaissance look

00:19:39.090 --> 00:19:52.080 David V. Griffin: It's based after the kind of Gothic that was associated with town halls and not only in Germany, but in the northern part of Europe during the like say 16th through early 18th century and

00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:59.820 David V. Griffin: There was one sort of a critic who when he first unit and said, oh yes. Beer Baron revival is what he called

00:19:59.820 --> 00:19:59.940 It.

00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:08.850 David V. Griffin: And it wasn't always complimented we didn't think of it as a handsome building. I think it is one. It's got some great details. It has a dry moat.

00:20:09.390 --> 00:20:24.690 David V. Griffin: Around it, and it has details that show Hercules, kind of in his lions robe around the dry mouth, there is a pediment that shows a profile of a decoded Indian just kind of like circle back to

00:20:25.830 --> 00:20:35.760 David V. Griffin: The name of the Dakota. A lot of people, there's like a kind of a folk pathology that was called to be caught up because so far so far west of, you know, where things are going on.

00:20:36.150 --> 00:20:37.590 Jeff Goodman: And the urban legends with

00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:46.050 David V. Griffin: The, the developer just seem to like the names Midwestern states because there were a building. So he was behind

00:20:46.710 --> 00:20:59.400 David V. Griffin: Called the Wyoming and the Montana that were absolutely in the heart of midtown the Montana actually was on the side of the secret building it was taken down for the secret building and the early 1950s.

00:21:00.030 --> 00:21:03.090 Jeff Goodman: I recall that there's a Wyoming on East Third Street in the East Village.

00:21:03.750 --> 00:21:11.310 David V. Griffin: There might be more than one it was. There was definitely a fad for it because people were very interested in the the opening up of the planes.

00:21:11.610 --> 00:21:15.360 David V. Griffin: During that time period. You have to understand that this was kind of an interesting kind of

00:21:16.140 --> 00:21:30.450 David V. Griffin: Era westward expansion and people were interested in kind of claiming those names of themselves as sort of a symbolic way of representing the new forces of American capitalism and political politics so

00:21:32.040 --> 00:21:37.170 David V. Griffin: So very obviously a lot of people lived at the decoder were very famous

00:21:38.520 --> 00:21:47.850 David V. Griffin: Most interesting. I suppose john lennon who was unfortunately murdered outside of the buildings entrance and his widow. Who is the artist Yoko Ono still lives in the building.

00:21:48.540 --> 00:21:59.460 David V. Griffin: Other tenants have included Lauren Bacall Rudolph Marissa Roberta Flack Judy Garland Rosemary Clooney Lillian Gish john Amos and Leonard Bernstein, the conductor.

00:22:02.220 --> 00:22:04.050 David V. Griffin: Interestingly, yes. The

00:22:05.100 --> 00:22:13.200 David V. Griffin: Film was the setting for the film version of IRA Eleven's horror novel Rosemary's Baby, although if you read the novel, you realize

00:22:13.650 --> 00:22:23.190 David V. Griffin: The brand for which is the fictional apartment building in the novel, it's actually based on the Wyoming, which is on, probably. Yeah, it's not based on that account at all.

00:22:24.360 --> 00:22:27.480 Jeff Goodman: Although the scenes in the Dakota are really very memorable.

00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:28.350 David V. Griffin: Including our

00:22:28.530 --> 00:22:29.580 Jeff Goodman: And she's in the elevator.

00:22:30.090 --> 00:22:34.560 David V. Griffin: I think it's been a while the great ironies of course Mia Farrow stars in the film, and she lives with block north and the

00:22:34.560 --> 00:22:34.950 Language

00:22:36.930 --> 00:22:43.380 Jeff Goodman: And speaking of the Lang. And that's another building that is designed in a European style.

00:22:45.300 --> 00:23:03.150 David V. Griffin: Yes, but almost 25 years later, built in 1905 the Lang of is actually an exceptionally graceful French Renaissance. Second Empire revival apartment house. It's one of four major sort of French style department houses to kind of began to set the tone for Central Park.

00:23:04.500 --> 00:23:16.470 David V. Griffin: serves a very interesting conversation with told her neighbor. Now, it stands on land that was built those island by the Clark family. The Clarks on the people who developed the Dakota, they didn't want to have something North Dakota, they'll be taller.

00:23:17.970 --> 00:23:23.430 David V. Griffin: So they want. They didn't sell the land, they were like you, if you buy this land. You don't have to build a building the shorter than the Dakota

00:23:23.670 --> 00:23:27.840 Jeff Goodman: So they actually wrote a covenant into the into the wow, actually. Exactly. There was a

00:23:27.840 --> 00:23:37.080 David V. Griffin: restriction on that lot and they couldn't sell it. They couldn't sell it for 25 years. And finally, like, all right, whatever we give up.

00:23:37.500 --> 00:23:45.180 David V. Griffin: Do whatever you want. And so someone bought it and they built the language to be almost exactly the height of the Dakota

00:23:45.810 --> 00:23:52.260 David V. Griffin: I don't think they wanted to overshadow their neighbor, but they did kind of make a sort of an interesting kind of contrast

00:23:52.950 --> 00:24:00.330 David V. Griffin: You know the Dakotas very God think it's very, sort of, you know, little bit sort of sinister almost a third torreon

00:24:00.780 --> 00:24:18.810 David V. Griffin: And the language was very graceful. It's sort of Beaux Arts. It's all about kind of this very, very sensuous kind of heat rock and the developer was a bomb and Kuhn, and the architect was Clinton and Russell, one of the original amenities at the lamb.

00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:21.450 Jeff Goodman: That that the Langham

00:24:22.290 --> 00:24:27.270 Jeff Goodman: They were first time amenities that were available at the line them that had not been seen in apartment buildings before

00:24:27.630 --> 00:24:37.590 David V. Griffin: Absolutely. One of the most amusing of them was the ice making machine which caught the eye of the New York Times when the building open. So there's a quote from the newspaper.

00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:47.790 David V. Griffin: There speaking and rapturous tones, I'm sure. But if each icebox is extra coil pipe. Your which are freezing which circulates so that if a tenant wants a piece of

00:24:48.360 --> 00:25:05.940 David V. Griffin: Ice without going to the concierge for all he has to do is fill a small metal pan of water places within the coil and a few minutes, its contents will be frozen solid. The emphasis original and this is obviously a useful correct with all that fake ice. We had so much

00:25:08.760 --> 00:25:12.630 Jeff Goodman: And who were some of the more famous people who've who've lived at the lingam

00:25:13.410 --> 00:25:19.020 David V. Griffin: They've included Carly Simon singer Basil Rathbone the actor and Mia Farrow, of course.

00:25:19.740 --> 00:25:26.700 David V. Griffin: Interestingly, she opened up her own apartment or actual apartment for the cameras Woody Allen's Hannah and her sisters. But you see that film.

00:25:27.150 --> 00:25:44.490 David V. Griffin: You see the actual not only the layout, but the sparrows own sort of furnishings paintings and I believe family members and staff. So it's a it's an interesting movie just for that that kind of glimpse into that type of apartment. In addition, for its other you know obvious parents

00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.260 Jeff Goodman: I wonder if Woody Allen was living at the land with it when that was filmed probably

00:25:49.530 --> 00:25:51.360 Jeff Goodman: No. No, he wasn't

00:25:52.380 --> 00:25:54.270 David V. Griffin: Always live separately from me.

00:25:56.340 --> 00:26:00.720 David V. Griffin: Right. I mean, I couldn't say no, I don't. I, I think he lived. He lived in Carnegie hill.

00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:02.610 Jeff Goodman: Oh,

00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:04.530 Jeff Goodman: Well, I won't make a joke.

00:26:06.330 --> 00:26:07.410 Jeff Goodman: And the premises of that.

00:26:08.430 --> 00:26:19.890 Jeff Goodman: Anyway, moving on to another building that was built is actually the same year that the land was built, we have the same urban that's a little bit further up north on Central Park West, tell us about the same urban

00:26:20.760 --> 00:26:31.860 David V. Griffin: To 85 Central Park last. It's a absolutely wonderful. Bart's confection. It is actually closer to the end, Sony apartments than it is to the lying. I'm although they're both in a French style.

00:26:32.370 --> 00:26:40.170 David V. Griffin: It's one of the very few apartment buildings of his time as the ansonia was to include a carriage drive entrance. So there's sort of a recessed

00:26:40.770 --> 00:26:49.650 David V. Griffin: vestibule that actually could take carriages of the time kind of interesting to go and look at it because it looks so small you don't think that any vehicle get in or out of it, but

00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:59.100 David V. Griffin: It definitely worked for the vehicles time. The name seems to have been upon simply on the word urban as there's no reason for to be named after the St.

00:27:00.600 --> 00:27:03.090 Jeff Goodman: It wasn't they weren't weren't there Pope's urban to

00:27:03.540 --> 00:27:15.750 David V. Griffin: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, but that that appears to be a little bit of a gag. And evidently given the the call is architecture. It's where the famous credit Ada Louise Huxtable spent her childhood.

00:27:16.350 --> 00:27:23.310 David V. Griffin: Now, of all the buildings on Central Park West St urban seem to have been the one that was plagued the most by tragedy.

00:27:23.790 --> 00:27:32.640 David V. Griffin: And there was a elevator mishap involving a delivery boy, where the lad fell down the shaft, because the doors are left open

00:27:33.210 --> 00:27:44.880 David V. Griffin: And it was a fatal accident. There was a tremendous brawl between two very wealthy stockbroker bachelor's that said, quote unquote, a shower BRIC a BRAC out onto Central Park West

00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:51.840 Jeff Goodman: You stockbroker bachelor's having a fight, throwing things at each other. You can imagine, you can imagine what they were what they were fighting about

00:27:52.020 --> 00:28:03.240 David V. Griffin: They refuse to say, let's put it that so in 1990 the building was extensively renovated and getting back kind of its competition man side. So it's actually in very good shape.

00:28:03.600 --> 00:28:13.560 David V. Griffin: And it's been a blue, the kind of the real truth. I think of Central Park West south to see it with its owner tower and all these for the belt ears, kind of, kind of figure

00:28:15.870 --> 00:28:21.390 Jeff Goodman: I wonder if you will, the Belvedere Castle was was designed and built before the same urban was so

00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:26.820 Jeff Goodman: Yes, I wonder, I wonder if anything about the Belvedere inspired. Some of the architecture of the St urban

00:28:27.510 --> 00:28:36.810 David V. Griffin: I don't think so, because the the Belvedere Castle is in kind of a, an English Romantic Gothic and sort of a falling and the same urban is a

00:28:37.860 --> 00:28:45.540 David V. Griffin: It's much more sort of a standard Korean rock kind of building. It's very much of the present style, much more so even than the mind.

00:28:46.470 --> 00:28:51.660 Jeff Goodman: Well, I'm so glad when you're on the show david and you put to bed, some of my more questionable.

00:28:54.510 --> 00:28:58.920 Jeff Goodman: Questions about about about some of the influences of New York's greatest buildings.

00:29:00.090 --> 00:29:11.850 Jeff Goodman: On that note, we're going to take another break we'll be back in a moment with our continuing conversation with David Griffin about Central Park West will be back.

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00:33:16.770 --> 00:33:34.110 Jeff Goodman: I remember my days at Vassar I would read things on the teletype machine from UPI David. This is back in the late 70s on WV KR 92.3 Poughkeepsie free radio and I just got saw something that the President has fired the official Department of Homeland Security, who

00:33:35.310 --> 00:33:44.670 Jeff Goodman: Said that there was no malfeasance in any of the voting in terms of the systems. He's now history, along with other great public servants of ours. Anyway, moving right along.

00:33:46.410 --> 00:33:56.760 Jeff Goodman: Let's talk about landmark branding. I think you have a great business what what does landmark branding do exactly and what in what inspired you to create it well.

00:33:56.940 --> 00:34:05.220 David V. Griffin: Thanks, Jeff. So landmark branding provides sort of customized marketing support or owners developers.

00:34:06.300 --> 00:34:17.190 David V. Griffin: Architects realtors brokers and what I do is I work with them to create text and presentations VIP events special tours films.

00:34:18.180 --> 00:34:28.710 David V. Griffin: Podcast material I'm similar to the show that we're doing, where we discuss the historic importance or the architectural significance of the buildings that they represent or that they're creating

00:34:29.100 --> 00:34:36.210 David V. Griffin: I work with both new and old buildings. I've done everything from as I said VIP tours of building sites.

00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:47.670 David V. Griffin: Neighborhood tours training sessions for brokers, I do individual writing some listings. I do corporate files I do building profiles. I've worked for SL green

00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:55.290 David V. Griffin: Work for companies I've worked for, you know, most of the major sort of real estate brokerage firm individual brokers those firms.

00:34:55.710 --> 00:35:07.890 David V. Griffin: And I really enjoy what it is that I do. You mentioned my blog every building on Fifth sort of a tiny little time capsule history sort of splash profiled every single building on Fifth Avenue.

00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:11.250 Jeff Goodman: And there are 1000 entries on that aren't there.

00:35:12.060 --> 00:35:13.500 David V. Griffin: There are about 600

00:35:13.680 --> 00:35:20.610 Jeff Goodman: Okay, sorry. But no, but there. I've been there 100 pages of just building after building after building after building on

00:35:20.610 --> 00:35:29.460 David V. Griffin: Failures to do it. So, and I'm working on a potential book project on the penthouse apartment is architectural types. So

00:35:29.940 --> 00:35:42.030 David V. Griffin: I've had a couple other things up my sleeve plans for a new blog that I'm going to be launching a 2021 and yeah so if people are interested in contacting me or learning more about it. The

00:35:42.600 --> 00:36:01.260 David V. Griffin: Website is landmark branding calm and I am available D Griffin. She or if I am at landmark landmark.com and the blog is also on the website. So it starts at Washington Square, as you said, and it concludes the Harlem armory. I think one of the city's greatest deco building huh

00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:07.620 Jeff Goodman: Well you you've been on the show so much you anticipate my questions which is and how can our listeners, get in touch with you and

00:36:09.090 --> 00:36:10.350 Jeff Goodman: You've already done it. That's great.

00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:22.290 Jeff Goodman: Well, moving back to Central Park West. Let's take a look at another building that was built before the First World War, but that's a little bit lower down to 50 Central Park West. You want to tell us about the Posada

00:36:23.190 --> 00:36:34.380 David V. Griffin: Yes, the persona was one of the four buildings including the Kota first and the Langham the same urban and Sada kind of established

00:36:35.460 --> 00:36:51.840 David V. Griffin: Central Park West as an avenue of tall but very luxurious apartment blocks. Now in this case 12 actually 13 stories. Unfortunately, extensive alterations in 19 ever moved the original man, sorry group. There was a prominent feature from filming.

00:36:52.950 --> 00:37:02.430 David V. Griffin: But there are still the amazing stained glass arcades and side I've had a chance to visit inside there and I I have friends that live in Florida and the interiors, which is banking.

00:37:03.630 --> 00:37:04.140 David V. Griffin: I'm

00:37:05.550 --> 00:37:16.530 David V. Griffin: At the fervor, who is a playwright and journalist who I think is kind of maybe a little bit faded from popular view in terms of name recognition.

00:37:17.100 --> 00:37:25.770 David V. Griffin: Was a 10 of the persona and she wrote so big and something that I think a lot of people still know about the musical showboat while living there.

00:37:26.490 --> 00:37:41.280 David V. Griffin: And she loved the building so much she was once quoted as saying I am never going to give up this wonderful place never don't have to. We'll old grandma forever out when they tear the building down. Well, this farmer is no longer among us, but the building has not been

00:37:42.810 --> 00:37:43.200 Part of this

00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:48.900 Jeff Goodman: Did she lived there until the end of her life. Yes. Okay. So,

00:37:50.340 --> 00:37:58.260 David V. Griffin: The, the persona is kind of interesting because like some of the other very luxurious buildings on the street. It contains only three apartments per floor.

00:37:59.580 --> 00:38:01.980 David V. Griffin: Which is the plan that survives to this day.

00:38:03.780 --> 00:38:07.800 David V. Griffin: So it's, it really is kind of an amazing hold over that.

00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:20.340 Jeff Goodman: And then we have another great more traditional building. It's the last of the major French Second Empire revival apartments and that's the Kenilworth

00:38:20.580 --> 00:38:33.510 David V. Griffin: Yes. A Kenilworth also has only three apartments per floor built in 19 oh 598 like the Zonda it retains its original man's our group, which is really one of, I think, the glories of Central Park West and

00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:40.050 David V. Griffin: If people are kind of sort of envision where these buildings are and be

00:38:40.500 --> 00:38:47.340 David V. Griffin: Kenilworth is just north of the salary low, which is not laying on which is going to decode, which is what Justin. So you have this kind of

00:38:47.700 --> 00:39:01.110 David V. Griffin: Amazing kind of confluence of different styles all kind of concentrated in one go. And the view actually from the roof guard that the best part is, you aren't really kind of shows this array very in a very picturesque fashion.

00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:21.240 Jeff Goodman: And then we have the First World War, and then right after the First World War, there's a huge boom in department construction that last from 1919 to into the Great Depression by a couple of years into 1931 and so much of it is on Central Park West

00:39:22.740 --> 00:39:29.340 Jeff Goodman: Some of the more avant garde buildings went up. We're Harper Lee Hall, which is also in the 60s alum Central Park West

00:39:30.720 --> 00:39:39.690 David V. Griffin: Yes, an arts and crafts building a very rare style. And then we have also the the Hotel de RTS which is close by.

00:39:40.500 --> 00:39:48.150 David V. Griffin: Much is actually set back off of Central Park West and was created as an actual working student apartment arrangement for artists and illustrators.

00:39:48.420 --> 00:39:58.500 David V. Griffin: As was to West 67 Street, which a lot of people I think passed by without realizing how remarkable, it is it has these amazing two story windows on both facades

00:39:58.830 --> 00:40:03.480 David V. Griffin: And because the building is on the south side of the house on the block the

00:40:04.410 --> 00:40:16.380 David V. Griffin: The West 67th street facade basis North North light is what artists want because it maintains a kind of a cool regularity throughout the year. It's very easy to paint by so it's

00:40:16.770 --> 00:40:29.070 David V. Griffin: One of these kind of remarkable sort of holdovers from the early studio apartment kind of culture and I think a lot of people have forgotten. I think I was studio apartment just means one or apartment know a better place for artists actually worked.

00:40:30.240 --> 00:40:43.710 Jeff Goodman: And of course you also are a specialist in the creation and construction of the studio apartment. Yes, yes. And I have had the pleasure of sitting in on one of your great lectures, specifically about the studio apartment.

00:40:44.460 --> 00:40:48.480 Jeff Goodman: By the way, for those of you who've never sat in on David's lectures. They're great.

00:40:48.900 --> 00:40:57.780 Jeff Goodman: And also, David provides a level of wit and witticism when he's on stage on interrupted by a pesky Interviewer Like me that really brings out some of the

00:40:58.530 --> 00:41:05.070 Jeff Goodman: Great parts of his work. So I highly recommend them and I host them periodically, although obviously we're not doing them now because it's

00:41:05.310 --> 00:41:05.790 David V. Griffin: Not right now.

00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:20.430 Jeff Goodman: And after those buildings went up we have the period of art deco that ushered in a new period of construction, not just on Central Park West, but the whole city, but there were some extraordinary apartment buildings that went up on Central Park West

00:41:22.500 --> 00:41:29.940 David V. Griffin: Just to go through it and very kind of quickly. One of the things that happened was that there was a new zoning regulation that was known as multiple

00:41:31.410 --> 00:41:42.210 David V. Griffin: And and the multiple dwelling act buildings were permitted to rise to heights that they otherwise would not have been if you separated the building out into two towers. That is why

00:41:42.630 --> 00:41:56.010 David V. Griffin: For the major buildings actually five counters for our buildings to rise up to towers and these are the tallest buildings on Central Park less. The first one of them is the San Remo very flamboyant

00:41:57.150 --> 00:42:01.200 David V. Griffin: Kind of Spanish Baroque architecture 27 stories tall.

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:12.900 David V. Griffin: Buildings tenants have included Steven Spielberg Glenn Close 20 Randall Diane Keaton Tiger Woods Dustin Hoffman and Rita Hayworth in Haiti Lamar back today.

00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:15.540 Jeff Goodman: Just on the sand rainbow, who was the architect.

00:42:15.570 --> 00:42:23.760 David V. Griffin: Remote was designed by Emory Roth good many of the most luxurious and hundred more fantastical building on the Upper West Side

00:42:24.390 --> 00:42:31.020 Jeff Goodman: I have actually have a listing on the Upper West Side in Emory Roth building. It's not a grand department, it's, it's a 243 Western Avenue.

00:42:32.670 --> 00:42:33.420 Jeff Goodman: Yes, I'd say.

00:42:33.450 --> 00:42:42.360 David V. Griffin: What all Ross buildings have this kind of swap character that is really very result of the time if they're really sort of the cream of the crop on the Upper West Side

00:42:43.110 --> 00:42:53.040 David V. Griffin: And then you have three other such my Twin Tower and buildings all but rose to 30 stories. These aren't gigantic buildings, they're really large for the time period.

00:42:53.610 --> 00:43:02.550 David V. Griffin: They're true skyscrapers century the majestic and me Eldorado section in the majestic were developed by early on as chanin and the French architecture should knock down and now

00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:13.470 David V. Griffin: They're extremely abstracted they have almost no ornament whatsoever. And they rise up and masses. It's just the drawings by the great huge Paris in his necropolis of foreign monograph

00:43:14.310 --> 00:43:20.730 David V. Griffin: The majestic was notorious for a while is the seat of organized crime families. There was actually a shootout that took place in an elevator.

00:43:21.120 --> 00:43:30.060 David V. Griffin: And there was an attempted assassination attempt and the century. On the other hand, replaced the magnificent but acoustically deficient century Opera House.

00:43:30.330 --> 00:43:39.480 David V. Griffin: Which was hobbled with debt. One of the last masterpieces Hastings, but thank goodness we got a good building out of it in the century. It really is a very handsome tower.

00:43:41.070 --> 00:43:48.180 David V. Griffin: The north of that the Eldorado. The third of the 30 story Twin Towers structures, much more fantastic and appearance.

00:43:48.960 --> 00:44:03.030 David V. Griffin: Metal fails and been described as Flash Gordon and anesthetic sometimes categorized as zigzag and rise to a higher 30 stories. I said, only one of the tower, so isn't habitable at that height, the other conceals water tower.

00:44:03.780 --> 00:44:08.280 Jeff Goodman: And for even for people who have not been to New York, they will recognize

00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.620 Jeff Goodman: That building because it was featured in

00:44:12.240 --> 00:44:16.800 David V. Griffin: Well, not Ghostbusters that's 55 Central Park West

00:44:16.830 --> 00:44:18.930 Jeff Goodman: Okay, sorry I you know

00:44:20.370 --> 00:44:20.700 Jeff Goodman: From the

00:44:20.730 --> 00:44:21.660 Jeff Goodman: From the interviewer year

00:44:22.650 --> 00:44:25.980 David V. Griffin: The twin towers on the other auto is actually the north side of the

00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:29.400 David V. Griffin: Park and then is visible from the set from the the roof garden at

00:44:30.420 --> 00:44:40.770 David V. Griffin: Art but tenants have included Ron Howard Faye Dunaway Michael J. Fox Bono Boston Carrie Fisher, the name of the building is derived from the hotel that wants to it on the site.

00:44:41.580 --> 00:44:48.420 David V. Griffin: And it's technically misspelled is El Dorado is two words in Spanish, the name of the apartment buildings Eldorado as one word.

00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:59.250 Jeff Goodman: And speaking of the Ghostbusters film. There's that is a great art deco building, but it doesn't have a name on it. It only has its address

00:44:59.340 --> 00:45:13.110 David V. Griffin: It's sort of a little bit odd and being only sort of identified by an address and 55 separate Park West is the name of the building. Sometimes it's called the Shan door building or spook central what the Ghostbusters building kind of quickly.

00:45:13.770 --> 00:45:25.290 David V. Griffin: Oh, it is really an outstanding architecture and as a highly vertical design is the first art deco building on Central Park West, by the way, the absolute first one and one of the first art deco apartment buildings. The world.

00:45:26.370 --> 00:45:31.710 David V. Griffin: It incorporates a shift in brick color from dark plum at the base to wheat gold at the top.

00:45:32.220 --> 00:45:40.440 David V. Griffin: That's greatly affected the building is rising into a shaft of sunlight. It's an architectural trick that some architects employed during this time period.

00:45:41.040 --> 00:45:52.860 David V. Griffin: Um, the obviously the the building a system Ghostbusters, but it was also the penthouse was also setting for the meeting between Lois Lane and Superman and then 1979 film starring Christopher Reeve and Marvel Kenner

00:45:53.970 --> 00:46:03.390 David V. Griffin: The penthouse was owned by Calvin Klein and other tenants involved included Donna Karen and Ginger Rogers, back in the day.

00:46:04.590 --> 00:46:15.450 David V. Griffin: So if you look at the film Ghostbusters, you'll be able to see where the real building stops and the matte painting and they made it look somewhat taller in the film. They added a fictional crown, which does not exist.

00:46:15.990 --> 00:46:29.910 Jeff Goodman: Well that show business. Um, there's one more business building. I want to ask you about residential, but we're going to do that after the next break we'll be back in a minute. And we'll continue our conversation with David Griffin of landmark branding will be right back.

00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:37.650 Educate and

00:48:46.080 --> 00:48:58.320 Jeff Goodman: We're back coming around the bend on this special program about Central Park West. My guest is to show special consultant David Griffin, who's also the founder and CEO of landmark branding.

00:48:59.370 --> 00:49:06.450 Jeff Goodman: David, I want to spend the rest of our time talking about the public buildings and Central Park West, but there's one building that we haven't talked about yet.

00:49:06.990 --> 00:49:17.550 Jeff Goodman: And that's the barest furred. And not to be outdone, unlike it's for sort of friends. It's not Twin Towers, but actually tripled tower. Yes.

00:49:17.640 --> 00:49:29.220 David V. Griffin: The best part is not the toss of Central Park West buildings. It's only 23 floors, but it is actually the largest building on Central Park West of the Museum of Natural History by volume.

00:49:30.030 --> 00:49:38.130 David V. Griffin: And it's also by Emory Roth, it's unique, as you said, for having three towers. He just kept by this sort of vast Georgian Belvedere.

00:49:38.940 --> 00:49:47.490 David V. Griffin: It's the only building on Central Park West to face two different Park Central Park to the east and Theodore Roosevelt car which holds the Museum of Natural History to the south.

00:49:48.150 --> 00:50:03.360 David V. Griffin: And Helen Gurley Brown Diana Ross Jerry Seinfeld, and Isaac Stern all live with Verizon and the building was the partial inspiration for the fictional American gardens building in the Bret Easton Ellis novel and subsequent film American Psycho.

00:50:05.940 --> 00:50:16.620 Jeff Goodman: Well, and quite a building. It isn't I my office is on 79th Street and frequently past that incredible building and for those who haven't been in it. It's also quite something. It's a block long

00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:18.840 David V. Griffin: It is it is

00:50:19.350 --> 00:50:25.380 Jeff Goodman: Classic New York. Let's talk about the public buildings, we have the society of Ethical Culture

00:50:25.890 --> 00:50:36.570 David V. Griffin: Yes, designed by Robert to cone and I can know five. It's an extremely understanding a rare example of Art Nouveau in New York City, our demo never really took off the extent that art deco did

00:50:37.290 --> 00:50:47.670 David V. Griffin: The philanthropic organization is a religion centered on ethics, rather than ecology. Their mission is to encourage respect for humanity in nature to create a better world.

00:50:48.180 --> 00:50:58.350 David V. Griffin: And the building itself kind of respects the kind of new take on things. It's, it's very much of a culture in the, the early 1900s. The building was built in 1905

00:50:59.580 --> 00:51:06.180 David V. Griffin: That was trying to kind of reinvent ethical and moral reasons for kind of continuing our culture.

00:51:06.750 --> 00:51:14.520 David V. Griffin: And there was a lawsuit against the the society of fortunately when they sought to kind of sell the building.

00:51:15.030 --> 00:51:21.150 David V. Griffin: And the Court said no, this is an historic district and you can't capitalize on the fact that you have to be where you are.

00:51:21.900 --> 00:51:30.570 David V. Griffin: But they have kind of reconcile that themselves. I think very much so to their location and from 2001 day have begun a slow process of restoration

00:51:30.900 --> 00:51:42.540 David V. Griffin: They host a series of lectures and public programming there. I definitely recommend people check it out. The architecture is very understated, but it's extraordinary nonetheless.

00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.410 Jeff Goodman: Yes, I've actually been to two electrodes at the at the society.

00:51:48.270 --> 00:51:53.430 Jeff Goodman: Let's talk about another famous religious institution along Central Park West, the first church of Christ scientist.

00:51:53.820 --> 00:51:54.480 Yes.

00:51:56.100 --> 00:52:00.120 David V. Griffin: Something historian Christopher gray called one of the city's most sumptuous churches.

00:52:00.720 --> 00:52:07.680 David V. Griffin: It's one of those things that I wonder why is it more famous than it is because it is such a kind of magnificent

00:52:08.310 --> 00:52:17.730 David V. Griffin: Kind of really dramatic really muscular kind of kind of neoclassical building this kind of money and knuckle configuration are very abstract French and English prototypes.

00:52:18.060 --> 00:52:36.330 David V. Griffin: And it has a very unique all burlesque like spiral like a magician kind of chimney as one critic, but the grand scale is notable these spectacular Interior has unfortunately the largely removed. However, as the building was planned for condo conversion. This project has been halted.

00:52:37.350 --> 00:52:43.680 David V. Griffin: The building itself is currently empty and they're looking at ways to kind of move forward. I think something more creative.

00:52:45.900 --> 00:52:53.460 Jeff Goodman: And we have a very famous synagogue that's on Central Park West had actually houses do with America's oldest Jewish congregation

00:52:54.300 --> 00:53:00.240 David V. Griffin: Yes congregations. Share it as real, also known. Sometimes it's the old Portuguese and Spanish synagogue.

00:53:00.630 --> 00:53:12.210 David V. Griffin: Is the oldest Jewish congregation in the United States. And one of the oldest intact congregations in the Western Hemisphere was formed in 1654 by Jewish people who arrived from Dutch Brazil.

00:53:12.930 --> 00:53:27.900 David V. Griffin: And the building is very handsome. That's kind of a for calm neoclassical building and 73 it is their fifth home in New York City. The really was first constructed in 1897 and renovated extensively 1921 and giving it its current much more was

00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:38.460 Jeff Goodman: I was very lucky to have gone on a tour of it, about a year ago, which I had never been, you know, I, I'm Jewish. And I go to religious services in different synagogues from time to time.

00:53:38.910 --> 00:53:54.300 Jeff Goodman: And I was mesmerized by the interior. It's spectacular is not the word it's it's solid, but it's beautiful. And it's done in the Sephardic way with there's not a platform in the front of the sanctuary. It's in the middle of the sanctuary.

00:53:54.660 --> 00:53:55.230 Jeff Goodman: And up

00:53:56.430 --> 00:54:02.460 David V. Griffin: As to see the interior myself yet, but I've heard. I've heard it's absolutely spectacular like even more beautiful than the exterior

00:54:02.940 --> 00:54:10.650 Jeff Goodman: Yes, and I'm in. I'm in one of the in the sign chapel, we call it a bait have been dropped which technically means a house of learning, but it's like the

00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:13.380 Jeff Goodman: The small show in the show.

00:54:14.520 --> 00:54:16.800 Jeff Goodman: They actually, it's very much designed

00:54:17.850 --> 00:54:30.330 Jeff Goodman: Like and revolutionary times in terms of its of its layout and actually have artifacts in the small chapel that date from the sanctuary that they had in New York, around the time of the revolution.

00:54:32.160 --> 00:54:40.470 Jeff Goodman: We also have the oldest museum dedicated to the history, not just of in New York but anywhere in the United States. And that's on Central Park West

00:54:40.710 --> 00:54:54.930 David V. Griffin: Yes, it is the oldest City Museum and the world and the city's first Museum, the New York Historical Society, which was founded in 1804 it predates the historical societies of both London and Paris and any other city in the world.

00:54:56.100 --> 00:55:09.150 David V. Griffin: It's collections of historical artifacts that work. So our contain more than 10 million works in terms of actual objects is third largest Museum in New York City. And what are the largest museums in the United States.

00:55:10.230 --> 00:55:17.310 David V. Griffin: More than 3 million books maps documents manuscripts prints photographs drawings incredible, incredible collections.

00:55:17.640 --> 00:55:24.570 David V. Griffin: far ranging materials range of the founding and early history of the nation's first documentary evidence of the phrase United States of America.

00:55:25.230 --> 00:55:33.330 David V. Griffin: One of the best questions of 18th century newspapers in the United States outstanding collection of materials documenting slavery and reconstruction.

00:55:33.900 --> 00:55:44.400 David V. Griffin: Civil War Ulysses S. Grant has turns to surrender for Robert E. Lee are part of the collection amazing paintings decorative arts photographs

00:55:45.390 --> 00:56:02.010 David V. Griffin: The list just goes on and on. It's an incredibly broad range of materials relating to the history of this in the building was designed by the firm of York, and swear, who are also responsible for the magnificent Apple bank building a product unless 73rd street markets, our society.

00:56:03.060 --> 00:56:12.420 David V. Griffin: Much more subdued, but still really kind of a major kind of work of very, very late Beaux Arts infusing your classes.

00:56:13.260 --> 00:56:26.130 Jeff Goodman: Yes, well, like in all shows, David. We're almost at a time and can keep talking about it, but in the minute or so we have left. Let's talk about one of my favorite museums in the city. And that's the Museum of Natural History

00:56:26.490 --> 00:56:35.130 David V. Griffin: Yes, New York. Natural History Museum is probably the most famous such Museum in the country. It is the largest in the country. It is one of the largest in the world.

00:56:35.550 --> 00:56:45.090 David V. Griffin: The museum complex comprises 26 interconnected buildings housing 45 permanent exhibition halls and addition to the planetarium and the library.

00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:54.510 David V. Griffin: And contains over 34 million specimens of plants, animals fossils minerals rocks meteorites human remains human cultural artifacts.

00:56:54.780 --> 00:57:03.330 David V. Griffin: And ancient art as well as specialized collections for frozen tissue genomic astrophysical data only a small fraction can be displayed at any given time.

00:57:03.720 --> 00:57:09.510 David V. Griffin: Even though the building is so vast, it actually covers acres and acres and acres of space.

00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:25.890 David V. Griffin: The building is a combination of Romanesque revival and New Classical components include the modern planetarium as well as the original building by Calvert Fox subsumed into additions by Jake Cleveland Katie and a neoclassical Theodore Roosevelt monument by john muscle.

00:57:26.730 --> 00:57:34.290 Jeff Goodman: Speaking of architecture, bit of a personal connection, a wonderful friend of mine who sadly, is no longer with us, was an architect. His name was Fred Burkhardt Frederick Burkhardt

00:57:34.830 --> 00:57:41.910 Jeff Goodman: Fred redesign the lobby in the 1980s and he also designed the Hall of minerals and gems. It was done in the seven years.

00:57:42.330 --> 00:57:50.070 Jeff Goodman: Wow, that's, that's, that's quite something new, new, new concepts. Well, David. We're at a time and the hour seems to have gone by so fast.

00:57:50.100 --> 00:57:51.420 David V. Griffin: And I know, I know.

00:57:51.720 --> 00:58:02.340 Jeff Goodman: I really appreciate you coming on the show and not just being a guest on a to put on a to get show but coming with your expertise and taking up the whole hour with with with things that we could have talked about for

00:58:02.340 --> 00:58:10.950 David V. Griffin: Free free we we've only. I mean, we could have talked for another for hours and hours about this incredible Boulevard everybody who goes to New York City.

00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:19.830 David V. Griffin: And doesn't spend some time. I think taking just a long leisurely walk from Columbus Circle up to the natural museum history. They're doing themselves at disfavor

00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:23.010 David V. Griffin: The good stuff sometimes is on the west side.

00:58:23.580 --> 00:58:31.320 Jeff Goodman: And I know I'm driving my engineer crazy by going over probably 90 seconds on this, but he also lives on Central Park West. So there you go, Sam.

00:58:31.620 --> 00:58:41.790 Jeff Goodman: Anyway, uh, we've just finished this week's journey to Central Park West. If you have comments or questions about the show. If you'd like to get on our mailing list, please email me, Jeff at rediscovering. New York, NY say

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00:58:47.550 --> 00:58:56.340 Jeff Goodman: I'd like to thank our sponsors again. Chris pappas mortgage banker TD Bank and the Law Offices of Tom sciatica focusing on wills and estate planning probate and inheritance litigation.

00:58:56.910 --> 00:59:01.530 Jeff Goodman: One more thing before we sign off, I'm Jeff Goodman, a real estate agent and brown Harris Stevens in New York City.

00:59:01.980 --> 00:59:07.980 Jeff Goodman: And whether you're selling, buying leasing or renting my team and I provide the best service and expertise in New York City, real estate.

00:59:08.340 --> 00:59:18.600 Jeff Goodman: To help you with your real estate needs. You can reach us at 646-306-4761 our producer is Ralph story or our engineer this evening is the great great Sam Leibowitz

00:59:18.990 --> 00:59:26.250 Jeff Goodman: Our special consultant is our guest tonight. David Griffin of landmark branding. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.

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