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Tuesday, November 10, 2020
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2020/11/10 - Coffee & Tea in New York

[NEW EPISODE] Coffee & Tea in New York

New York's Relationship With the Drinks ALMOST Everyone Loves

On this week’s show we will look at a lighter side of New York: the City's relationship with coffee and tea, from past to present.

 My guests will be Rediscovering New York regular Justin Rivers, Chief Experience Officer and Lead Tour Guide for Untapped New York; and David Wong, Owner of McNulty's Tea & Coffee Co.,  which is celebrating its 125th year in business!

Tune in for this fascinating conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by clicking here.


Show Notes

Segment 1

Jeff introduces his first guest Justin Rivers, the Chief Experience Officer and Lead Tour Guide for Untapped New York. Jeff starts by asking Justin where he was born and how he got to New York. He then asks what in his career path had him decide to go into giving tours. Justin credits a love of social studies and seeing historical locations with his parents; he loved doing this, so he became a tour guide. Jeff asks Justin when human beings first started drinking coffee, which started being brewed as a beverage around eight hundred years ago. They move on to talking about the earliest records of tea being drunk in New York. Tea was first brought to NY from its original Dutch settlers in the 1620s. Justin explains that tea became culturally associated with British people once they began colonizing America and Asia. The British who came to New York drank tea frequently at social gatherings, and set up many tea houses. Jeff and Justin talk about some of the most famous early coffee houses in the city. 

Segment 2

Jeff asks Justin what his tour company is offering customers during the COVID pandemic. Justin mentions all the virtual tours they are giving and their socially distanced in-person tours. The two of them talk about how, although the Boston tea party is most remembered, there was also dumping of British tea in the New York harbor during the American Revolution. Next, they discuss some of the notable 20th-century coffee houses. They talk about the Little Coffee Shop, opened in 1918, which was the first fresh brewed coffee shop in Grand Central Terminal. The shop was so successful that the owner was able to open shops all over the city. Next, they bring up Cafe Reggio in the West Village, which is still open today and famous for their espressos. Reggio was opened up in 1929 and credited as introducing cappuccinos to New Yorkers. Another shop Porto Rico which was named in honor of Italian Catholics. Justin brings up the famous Anthora cup design, which a Czech immigrant designed and is now one of New York’s most popular symbols.  

Segment 3

Jeff introduces his next guest David Wong, owner of McNulty’s Coffee and Tea, which has been in business for 125 years. David talks about John McNulty, the tea shop’s original owner in 1895, and how the location has not moved since then. Jeff asks when David’s family bought the shop, which was in 1980. David and his family had no background in the business, but his brother worked at the shop and decided to buy it, at which point David’s family got fully involved with it. Jeff asks what David’s journey was to take over the business. David explains how his father offered him the business, and he took it and fully embraced working there. In recent years they have opened the business up with social media accounts and taking online business orders. 

Segment 4

David talks about how his business has adapted to do more shipping orders during the pandemic and how it has changed. Jeff asks David about his most significant flavors of tea and coffee, and David mentions some of the teas he imports from all over the world. He then discusses the types of blended coffees they do in the house and their popularity. 


Transcript

00:00:33.090 --> 00:00:34.080 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Hello everyone.

00:00:35.100 --> 00:00:42.270 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Welcome to our listeners in the Big Apple from across the US and around the world. I'm Jeff Goodman and you've tuned into rediscovering New York

00:00:43.050 --> 00:00:48.600 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Professionally, I'm a real estate broker with brown Harris Stevens, and as my listeners know I love New York

00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:54.270 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: rediscovering New York as a weekly program about the history texture and vibe of our amazing city.

00:00:55.080 --> 00:01:04.320 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And we do it through interviews with historians local business owners tour guides nonprofit organizations preservationists local musicians and artists and the occasional elected official

00:01:05.310 --> 00:01:13.530 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: On some shows we focus on an individual New York neighborhood exploring its history and its current energy. What makes that particular New York neighborhood special

00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:21.150 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Sometimes like tonight we host a show about an interesting and vital color. The city that's not focused on one particular neighborhood.

00:01:21.870 --> 00:01:29.760 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: On prior episodes. You've heard us cover topics as illuminating as American presidents who came from lived in or had some interesting history here in the city.

00:01:30.360 --> 00:01:35.880 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: We've talked about the history of women activists in the women's suffrage movement. We've talked about the history of African Americans here.

00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:43.710 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: We've talked about the LGBT rights movement and the city's gay community. We've explored the history of bicycles and cycling.

00:01:44.310 --> 00:01:49.770 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: We've explored the history of punk and Opera. There was a separate shows, we've talked about a libraries.

00:01:50.460 --> 00:01:56.730 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: We journey to some of our greatest train stations and we've even traveled across a couple of our bridges.

00:01:57.600 --> 00:02:04.590 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: After the broadcast to each show is available on podcast. You can hear us on Apple Spotify SoundCloud Stitcher and some other services.

00:02:04.980 --> 00:02:12.030 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Tonight we're having a fun show a little more lighthearted last week we had an election. History The show this is not a show about politics, as you know,

00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:16.020 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: So we didn't talk about current political events. We talked about the history of presidential

00:02:16.380 --> 00:02:24.480 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Election. So, this week I decided we would do something a little more lighthearted. We're going to talk about coffee and tea those timeless drinks that people the world overload.

00:02:24.990 --> 00:02:33.360 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And we in New York, certainly love our coffee and our take our first guest is a returning expert to rediscover New York. It's Justin rivers.

00:02:33.750 --> 00:02:40.320 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Justin is the chief experience officer and lead tour guides for untapped New York, which used to be called untapped cities.

00:02:41.190 --> 00:02:46.200 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Justin started his career was in New York, middle school and English language arts teacher on the low resigned.

00:02:46.770 --> 00:02:52.680 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: He used to drag students to historic sites across the city to try to bring new york's lesser known stories to life for them.

00:02:53.310 --> 00:02:58.830 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: He became co creator of the Wonder city. It's a graphic novel that reimagines New York City's entire history.

00:02:59.610 --> 00:03:09.210 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: He was also the playwright and producer of the eternal space, an off Broadway play that sent it on the demolition of New York City's Pennsylvania station, of which judges, Justin, give us a fantastic tour.

00:03:09.900 --> 00:03:17.460 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: It was with this production and one simple tweet that he fell head over heels for untapped New York who he partnered with for his remnants of Penn Station.

00:03:18.570 --> 00:03:23.490 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Along with his role as chief experience officer Justin's the founding director of the character connection initiative.

00:03:23.970 --> 00:03:29.100 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: It's a nonprofit organization that connects character education and mindfulness to middle school curriculum.

00:03:29.820 --> 00:03:35.640 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: He's also creator and lead guide for some of untapped New York's popular tours, including the underground tour of the New York City subway.

00:03:36.390 --> 00:03:42.090 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: The remnants of Dutch New Amsterdam, the secrets of the Brooklyn Bridge, the remnants of the World's Fair and flushing meadow.

00:03:42.480 --> 00:03:59.070 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Secrets of Coney Island maritime history of New York. The Hidden gems of Raphael goes to cost of, you know, tour and the Art in New York City subway walking tour and Justin has actually talked about some of these topics on the past. Justin a hearty welcome back to rediscovering New York

00:03:59.370 --> 00:04:02.550 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: A HEARTY hello to you, Jeff always amazing to be here.

00:04:03.750 --> 00:04:08.880 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, so it's great to have you and your expertise and your passion. You're originally from the New York area orange here.

00:04:09.330 --> 00:04:14.550 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: I am. I was born right outside of New York. In New Jersey. Don't hold it against me, but

00:04:15.180 --> 00:04:27.720 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: I was from a born in Hackensack and then my parents when I was younger moved to town a little further north and say county called Ringwood and then I went to Fordham University in the Bronx and never came back to Jersey.

00:04:28.110 --> 00:04:29.130 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: He never went back to Jersey.

00:04:29.130 --> 00:04:31.140 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Never went back to Jersey right so it

00:04:31.950 --> 00:04:35.430 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Was back to you on it sounds like an interesting title of the movie.

00:04:37.530 --> 00:04:39.180 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Explore writing the screenplay of that sometime

00:04:39.450 --> 00:04:54.000 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Maybe what was it in your career path that had you decide that you were going to go into something that was going to bring New York to life and the best of it, and also to create your tours.

00:04:54.630 --> 00:05:05.340 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: I was originally education and knowing that so many New York City students history and hated social studies. And one of the things that

00:05:05.490 --> 00:05:06.720 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: ANYBODY HIT social studies.

00:05:08.100 --> 00:05:08.370 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Now,

00:05:08.640 --> 00:05:16.680 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: I mean, I always liked it as a kid. But it wasn't until my parents actually brought me to some of the places I was learning about as a kid like going out of Jamestown are going up to Plymouth.

00:05:17.250 --> 00:05:26.280 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: That it came to life for me. And you know, I said to my students you live in the Lower East Side. This is the most history dense area of the country. We need to get you out and seeing this stuff and

00:05:26.550 --> 00:05:35.400 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And we did and that's and I love that more than anything else. I did as a teacher. So that's how it transitioned into being a guide for adults.

00:05:36.990 --> 00:05:41.400 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well now we're getting to our topic. Does your coffee and tea in New York.

00:05:43.350 --> 00:05:49.410 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Our history as what we would call a town goes back about 400 years ago there were people living here for thousands before that.

00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:59.280 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: But before we talk about coffee and tea, New York, I want to ask you a question about coffee. How long have human beings been consuming a hot drink Brune from that been for

00:05:59.820 --> 00:06:09.810 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Well, it's kind of interesting coffee does not have as a beverage, the kind of ancient history that tea does you know two people have been drinking tea for I'm going to say about

00:06:10.170 --> 00:06:20.640 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: You know, thousands of years but tea, coffee actually does not become a brew beverage until about 800 years ago people were consuming the beam.

00:06:21.630 --> 00:06:35.640 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: In different forms as sustenance for a very long time, but not until it gets out of Ethiopia, or the African region says it really become a beverage itself as like hot water ground down

00:06:36.840 --> 00:06:47.070 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And unlike tea which you actually can just dry the leaves and infuse them with with with coffee, you actually have to brute a different way. Well, I just remembered it. I once went on a tour of the Arizona desert and the guy who took us

00:06:47.580 --> 00:06:58.470 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: He talked about native tribes who lived on this one stretch 1000 years ago and the kids would harvest this coffee like being that they would use and cooking and that they would actually eat.

00:06:59.340 --> 00:07:13.470 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Um, let's move to tea for a moment, um, since the records are of Europeans drinking tea here before coffee. What are the earliest records of tea being drunk in New York by New Netherlands, which is what they would have been before the English conquered this place.

00:07:13.500 --> 00:07:20.070 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Right. Well, I was just going to say, you know, I think most of us probably listening know that New York was a Dutch city before it was an English city.

00:07:20.520 --> 00:07:32.370 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And so the Dutch were basically bringing tea from their holdings in Asia back home to Amsterdam in the early 1600s. And then, of course, in the 16th 20th

00:07:32.670 --> 00:07:45.990 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: When the Dutch sail over the ocean attend to Amsterdam, they bring tea with them. They actually bring a number of breakfast beverages with them, one of which was not hot and T comes over in the 16th 20th

00:07:46.410 --> 00:08:02.040 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Hmm. You know, I was really fascinated to read that one of the names of tea, actually, that I always thought was based on some kind of orange thing orange pico de it was named not for the color, but was named after the Dutch Royal House of Orange.

00:08:02.220 --> 00:08:02.460 Yes.

00:08:04.380 --> 00:08:05.580 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Correct. Um,

00:08:05.940 --> 00:08:15.300 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Let's move on to the consumption after New Amsterdam was taken over by the English and became New York being an English place I would assume that tea was a really big thing here.

00:08:16.590 --> 00:08:20.280 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Well, yeah, so T was a big deal, but a lot of people don't realize that

00:08:20.880 --> 00:08:28.170 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Tea actually becoming an English beverage happens right around the same time it happens to be a Dutch beverage because the British

00:08:28.530 --> 00:08:35.610 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And the Dutch are vying for both of these Asian markets in the early 1600s, they start bringing these exotic drinks home.

00:08:35.910 --> 00:08:43.320 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Tea becomes a cultural staple in the 1600s. And again, at the same time when New York becomes an English city.

00:08:43.650 --> 00:08:54.420 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: In 1664 T has brought over now. One of the differences and I know we'll talk about this a little bit between tea and coffee was coffee was really a man's beverage.

00:08:54.960 --> 00:09:09.450 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: It was really consumed socially by men only, whereas tea could be consumed, both by men and women, socially, so it was much more of a social drink for the English New Yorkers that the colonists at the time, so

00:09:10.530 --> 00:09:14.700 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: It was definitely more prolific in New York than coffee was at the time.

00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:24.630 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And there were separate coffee houses and tea houses weren't there. It wasn't like you could go like, Dad, go to Starbucks and get coffee or tea. You either went to a coffee house or he has

00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:36.780 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Yes, and very much so. Because of the gender difference. So there were tea gardens. There were hundreds of tea gardens all throughout New York. I think one of the most famous that New Yorkers will know probably by name is Vauxhall

00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:47.580 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: One of the reasons why as a lot of famous New York literary types would hang out at Vauxhall which not only was a place to consume tea, but it was a place for entertainment.

00:09:47.970 --> 00:09:51.990 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: There were elaborate fountains and vauxhall's actually named after a hall in London.

00:09:52.800 --> 00:10:01.230 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And so these were mirrors of places that people would go and socialize in London, but also it was a place of courtship, because again, women could drink it.

00:10:01.650 --> 00:10:15.180 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: So tea was on a bigger a bigger scale now for coffee houses. It was different coffee houses were places of business, you did business transactions and coffee houses in the 16 and 1700s. And so that was a man's only business for a very long time.

00:10:16.410 --> 00:10:21.210 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: That's it when I when I traveled to Hong Kong. When I used to be in business that took me overseas.

00:10:22.710 --> 00:10:37.320 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I thought that the tea houses of Hong Kong were very reminiscent of what coffee houses would have been in England and New York in the early days places to conduct business where people actually just didn't go to socialize, they actually got business done. Yeah.

00:10:37.500 --> 00:10:42.300 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: They were business and cultural centers coffee houses a lot of a lot of business got done there.

00:10:43.230 --> 00:10:48.930 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And I read that the colonists, sometimes even in coffee houses would hold court trials and some of these places.

00:10:49.980 --> 00:10:50.310 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: In

00:10:50.400 --> 00:10:59.370 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: In one of the first coffee houses, New York ever had the kings arms. There were witch trials being inducted at a time. Yes, a New York did not have as

00:10:59.700 --> 00:11:07.770 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Wide a dearth of witch trials as sort of say Salem did or New England. But we did have a couple and yes they a lot of trials were held in coffee houses at the time.

00:11:08.670 --> 00:11:16.380 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: What were some of the more famous coffee houses like before the revolution. What, what were some of the names of places that people in some of the bigger establishments.

00:11:16.590 --> 00:11:27.570 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Three heavy hitters come to mind. Well, one post revolution to pre revolution, the kings arms was the first known coffee house, I believe, founded in 16 I want to say 98

00:11:29.130 --> 00:11:34.170 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And it was a play was right on Broadway. It was right next to Trinity churches property.

00:11:34.680 --> 00:11:46.980 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And it was a home. It was actually a yellow brick faced home, which was a holdover from the period had multiple levels had an observation deck on the top where men could get their coffee do their business and then watch out over

00:11:47.790 --> 00:12:04.920 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: The Hudson and the harbor to see if ships were coming in for shipping and the kings arms like I said was host to trials famously some witch trials in New York. The next biggest coffee house in New York's history was the merchants coffee house on the corner of Pearl and Wall Street.

00:12:05.400 --> 00:12:09.330 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And there was some there was some important history that happened there, both before and after the revolution.

00:12:09.420 --> 00:12:14.190 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Very important. So I like to say, America was really born in a coffee house in New York because

00:12:14.730 --> 00:12:26.370 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: It was the Continental Congress was thought up of in the merchants coffee house on Wall Street and one of the first pre meetings of the Continental Congress happen there. And then after the revolution.

00:12:27.030 --> 00:12:36.180 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: President Elect George Washington was first recognized as the President of the United States in a ceremony outside of the merchants coffee house. So really big deal.

00:12:38.100 --> 00:12:48.780 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: What was the ton team coffeehouse I saw a picture recently and have a building built around that time and I didn't know that you could have that there were five and six story, you know, stone structures down

00:12:49.530 --> 00:12:53.970 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And lower Manhattan, you know, around this time. Yeah. One of them was called the town team coffeehouse

00:12:54.150 --> 00:13:01.740 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Counting coffeehouse is again a very historic spot, not only for New York but America because it was the home of the New York Stock Exchange.

00:13:02.160 --> 00:13:12.240 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And the taunting coffee house was a multi story building with the balcony and it was diagonally across from the merchants coffeehouse it to was also on wall and Pearl and

00:13:13.020 --> 00:13:21.210 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: It was the place where the first New York Stock Exchange sat inside the New York Stock Exchange was founded under a button would tree.

00:13:21.570 --> 00:13:29.820 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Down the street on Wall Street, but once they settled inside they settled on the second floor of the team. So that's that is where the stock exchange finds its first home.

00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:40.860 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And wasn't also the First Bank of New York, the Bank of New York actually conceived or the first meeting of the bank people who started the bank was in a coffee house.

00:13:40.890 --> 00:13:50.730 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Yeah. So actually, in the tone team. They met so there were multiple floors and multiple floors had different purposes, especially in the town team. So the first floor was the floor. You got your beverage.

00:13:51.120 --> 00:14:00.090 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And you could sit and be social. The second and the upper floors were places, almost like boardrooms or conference rooms, they'd go upstairs and conduct business so

00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:16.290 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: The stock exchange was sort of the second floor ish and I do believe, yes. The, the Bank of New York was dripped up and I believe the charter was drawn up in Taunton and then moved just down the street to the next corner where it was laid out as a building.

00:14:16.980 --> 00:14:24.870 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Up before we take a break in him and I will ask you a quick question about roasting coffee, a little, a little we're not well known fact about it.

00:14:25.500 --> 00:14:33.150 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Unlike tea, coffee, had to be roasted. It could just be dry but coffee had to be roasted could one by roasted coffee in New York hundreds of years ago.

00:14:33.510 --> 00:14:43.710 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: No. So interestingly about coffee was when it was in the colonial period, you had to buy green coffee, which is just raw coffee.

00:14:44.010 --> 00:14:56.790 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Being and then it was again the woman's job to purchase the coffee, mainly from the markets, bring it home and then they would roast it on the open heart fires. So you can see like the hearts would be scorched black by

00:14:57.540 --> 00:15:09.450 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: The coffee roasting process. It wasn't until later and industrial New York, a man by the name of Jay bez burns actually invents the industrial roaster and that that sort of changes coffee consumption in New York completely

00:15:09.780 --> 00:15:11.160 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: That's an 1800s.

00:15:13.530 --> 00:15:25.950 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, we're going to take a short break and when we come back we're going to continue our discussion with the history of coffee and tea and our great city, New York with our first guest Justin rivers of untapped New York will be back in a moment.

00:15:27.270 --> 00:15:29.280 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Or listening to talk radio and YC

00:15:29.640 --> 00:15:31.770 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: at www talk radio

00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:50.850 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: We're back to this episode of rediscovering New York and our special program about coffee and tea in our great city, New York. My first guest is Justin rivers, who's the chief experience officer and lead tour guide of untapped New York

00:17:51.270 --> 00:18:07.440 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I'm Justin. It's been a challenging time for tour companies with in during the pandemic, what kinds of programming is untapped New York offering its, its customers now and what kind of special things do you have coming up.

00:18:08.820 --> 00:18:19.920 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Well, we went virtual with our insiders membership program in March, right after the pandemic sort of hit. So on a weekly basis we do three to four virtual either tours or talks.

00:18:20.670 --> 00:18:35.190 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Which people can go to untapped cities.com slash insiders use the code. Join us for two months free to give it a try. It's join us as one word, but also we are back. I'm happy to say and early September with in person.

00:18:36.030 --> 00:18:47.520 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Tour experiences. They're socially distance. We're all outside were a 10 person capacity and we have earpieces so people can sort of scattered around and feel comfortable

00:18:47.970 --> 00:18:54.900 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And it's been great, because the tours have been selling really well. And we're it feels good to be back out in the world again.

00:18:55.470 --> 00:18:55.980 Oh, great.

00:18:57.510 --> 00:19:01.410 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: That came back to tea and coffee in New York and a couple of minutes we're going to talk about

00:19:02.790 --> 00:19:07.020 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Some of the more recent history of coffee houses, but I want to go back a couple of hundred years.

00:19:08.190 --> 00:19:21.570 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: You know, I'm a real sucker for history. Let's talk about tea in the time of the revolution. We all know about the Boston Tea Party. But New York. Not to be outdone by anybody else in this if we had our own Tea Party didn't wait

00:19:22.110 --> 00:19:30.510 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: We did. We had our own tea party which very few people talk about because Boston's was Earth, but in April of 1774

00:19:31.350 --> 00:19:43.050 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: We, the New York and actually come off of suffering through the towns in Acts, a couple of rules before we started the idea of taxation without representation and they chips over those are repealed and then

00:19:43.950 --> 00:19:52.590 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: England an x. The TX and people actually think the TX increase the price of coffee. It did not. It gave the East India.

00:19:52.980 --> 00:20:01.470 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: The British East India Company or English a new company, excuse me carte blanche to not have tariffs or taxes on their tea so they could

00:20:01.740 --> 00:20:10.080 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Basically name their own price and have a monopoly which ticked off a lot of American port cities, including Boston in New York. So they were they were not happy about this.

00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:18.810 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And that's why Boston Tea Party, and then in April of 1774 New York decides to do their own version. There were two ships.

00:20:19.320 --> 00:20:25.260 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: One of which that came in was the NANCY AND NANCY had about almost 700 chests of tea in it.

00:20:26.070 --> 00:20:35.130 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And the New Yorkers who had decided they were going to rebel, a little bit sent to the captain. The Nancy, hey, you know, we're gonna let you go, but turn around and get out of here.

00:20:35.370 --> 00:20:39.990 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Or we're going to dump your tea, like they did in Boston. And actually, the captain of the Nancy took the advice.

00:20:40.650 --> 00:20:45.060 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: But he spent a couple of days hanging around getting provisions to go back to London.

00:20:45.600 --> 00:20:54.390 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And then a ship called the London sales into the harbor and the captain, knowing that The New Yorkers were boarding and we're going to do this as I don't have any tea on board.

00:20:55.050 --> 00:21:04.080 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: But they were tipped off by some people in Philadelphia. The New Yorkers that were that is saying he's got actually a private 18 chest

00:21:05.190 --> 00:21:12.480 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: stash of tea that he wanted to sell for himself for personal profit and the New Yorkers boarded and dump that tea.

00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:30.270 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: In the harbor, much like Austin and then that Captain and both Nancy sort of went in back home to London with their tail tucked between their legs and it was not as well known, but the Coercive Acts were then passed to sort of punish the colonists for these acts.

00:21:30.870 --> 00:21:40.140 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, maybe in typical New York fashion. I read that the colonists who were waiting the call the Sons of Liberty. We're waiting to put on their, their

00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:48.630 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Mohawk our best to try to copy but they couldn't wait and they're impatient. So in patients, we've added patient New Yorkers. The 250 years, they'll

00:21:49.950 --> 00:21:51.120 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Get costumed up, they just

00:21:52.020 --> 00:21:54.840 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And also know what the New Yorker said as they took that

00:21:54.840 --> 00:22:01.680 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: They emptied the tea in the harbor and then burn the chest and bonfires and streets, which is also a unique in New York twists to that.

00:22:02.280 --> 00:22:05.160 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: That's not say that you're just aren't resourceful.

00:22:05.790 --> 00:22:07.530 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: All the, all the assets.

00:22:08.550 --> 00:22:09.510 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: In a given time.

00:22:10.230 --> 00:22:20.190 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: There's a couple of quick things before we go to more modern times john Jacob Aster who was America's first multi millionaire. Aside from him making a fortune in shipping.

00:22:20.730 --> 00:22:26.550 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: For and other goods overseas his ships actually came back and came back with Chinese tea.

00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:38.100 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: That helped him make the money he did. And for those of us old enough to remember the a&p the NP was originally the great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company.

00:22:38.580 --> 00:22:54.420 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: It opened on Vesey street in 1859 and grew into the world's largest chain store. It's the ancestor of today's am pig and by 1860 by the start of the Civil War $8.3 million worth of imported T was handled by New York merchants.

00:22:55.440 --> 00:23:01.470 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: We're going to fast forward a little bit now and come to the 20th century, um,

00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:12.300 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: What are some of the more recent coffee businesses in New York that started maybe around the turn of the century, and a little bit after that and and what was some of their unusual characteristics.

00:23:13.320 --> 00:23:20.580 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Well, coffee in that 20th century in New York has, of course, like New York does characters associated with it.

00:23:21.270 --> 00:23:31.260 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And so the woman, there's a woman, her name is Alice foot McDougal she was born in one of the Greek revival row houses on Central West Washington Square Park North

00:23:32.010 --> 00:23:42.210 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Born into a rich family that went broke. She marries a coffee broker. He goes, broken dies on her and she decides she's going to become an independent woman. She goes into the coffee business.

00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:46.890 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Sounds a little bit like Betsy janell when they are very much like Betsy Jamil correct

00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:54.210 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And she starts a company called a F McDougal and she begins importing green coffee.

00:23:55.350 --> 00:23:57.150 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Without the gender specific name.

00:23:57.540 --> 00:24:09.120 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: But she doesn't love it. So she switches her career and she starts actually selling she becomes a whole big retailer in Grand Central Terminal, of all places she opens, one of the first coffee shops there called the little coffee shop.

00:24:09.810 --> 00:24:23.100 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And it was in the Lexington Avenue passage and she opened at 1919 so just six years after the terminal opens and it's a really blustery day in February. There's a nor'easter blowing through and she decides, you know what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna brew my coffee.

00:24:24.210 --> 00:24:31.080 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: She was just selling whole being at the time she brews the coffee and then she tells her one of her shop girls to go home and get her waffle iron

00:24:31.500 --> 00:24:36.540 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: She starts making waffles and selling coffee to the commuters and it's it hit

00:24:37.020 --> 00:24:45.450 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: It becomes such a hit that she ends up making an absolute fortune and she starts opening all these posh, posh Mediterranean style coffee houses.

00:24:45.810 --> 00:24:49.290 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: All over the upper and East and West Side of Manhattan.

00:24:49.620 --> 00:24:57.090 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And they become. This is where the the gender discrepancy between coffee gets equalized they become very fashionable places.

00:24:57.300 --> 00:25:07.050 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: For women to go and drink coffee and all of a sudden coffee becomes very much a woman's game, and she, I always say she was New York's first Martha Stewart. She had a whole empire coffee houses and cookbooks.

00:25:07.650 --> 00:25:21.390 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: She gave advice to housewives on how to prepare their coffee and what to make to serve with the coffee little secret about Alice Google, she didn't know how to cook it all. She never set foot in the kitchen. SO SHE FAKED until she made it on that one. I'm

00:25:22.560 --> 00:25:25.920 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Going chronologically, then of course you have cafe Reggio

00:25:26.310 --> 00:25:37.140 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: In the West Village, which is still open today and started by a guy named Dominica per easy who, if you look at pictures of him. He looks like Hercule PARO when he was younger. He comes over from Italy.

00:25:37.620 --> 00:25:49.350 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And with the Italian wave of immigrants to the village, they bring with them their coffee, which is espresso very different from the boiled coffee that New Yorkers new before that hand. It's a matter of fact, somebody said,

00:25:50.160 --> 00:26:05.970 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: A food critic at the time said I have great respect for what comes out of the Italian kitchen, but the coffee not come out at all, it should be used to scrub copper pot because espresso was so strong, but the Monaco was a barber.

00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:13.800 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And he would serve as a shot of espresso to his patrons and he decided, you know what I really like serving the coffee more than cutting the hair.

00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:23.910 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: So he takes his life savings which is $1,000 and gets a giant vitro Arduino espresso machine shipped from Italy to the village.

00:26:24.270 --> 00:26:37.890 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And he opens up Reggio in 1929. It's the longest running cafe in New York still running today and he introduces from this monstrous machine which is now an artifact on the wall and Reggio the cappuccino.

00:26:38.760 --> 00:26:40.950 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: In an effort, you know, had not been in New York before

00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:53.610 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: 1929. No, he is. He is some debate that he's the first to serve espresso. But that's, that you cannot back there are a lot of people doing espresso at the time, but he does introduce cappuccino two New Yorkers and it's right on his own.

00:26:54.780 --> 00:27:01.080 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: He, he gets it in an event to or to get women to drink it because it's a lot softer obviously

00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:13.260 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And on macdougal street. I think we may have the second oldest coffee and tea purveyor we're going to speak to the owner of the first and the second half of the show. Um, what's the history of Puerto Rico.

00:27:13.890 --> 00:27:15.150 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: So Puerto Rico, actually.

00:27:15.150 --> 00:27:16.830 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Start so not put it, though it's not

00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:19.590 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Worked out. And the reason why was named Puerto Rico.

00:27:20.040 --> 00:27:26.400 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Was because the pope at the time in the early 1900s drank coffee from Puerto Rico.

00:27:27.030 --> 00:27:36.240 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And so they named the business after that for the Catholic Italians, knowing that, well, if it's good enough for the Pope, it's good enough for you. That's why it's the P RT. Oh, spelling

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:46.920 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And it was started in the early 1900s by a guy named Patsy alderney's who actually opened a Italian food shop with coffee wasn't just coffee.

00:27:47.340 --> 00:27:59.220 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: But a baker down the street. The Longo family eventually buys the business from our bunnies and opens reopens Puerto Rico, where it is today the original location on

00:28:01.020 --> 00:28:06.030 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Right on Bleecker. And actually, one of the things that I love the story about the longest. I love is that there

00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:13.590 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Peter, who owns it. Now, grew up in that building and his mother rose used to sit above the awning and flick cigarettes out

00:28:14.100 --> 00:28:25.230 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: There were cigarette holes in the awning. And so when rose turned 100 they roasted a rose blend, which was apparently very strong like she was love that story. It's very New York

00:28:25.560 --> 00:28:28.560 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Better to burn holes in the morning, than to burn holes in the customers Harris.

00:28:28.800 --> 00:28:29.640 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Yeah, it's very much

00:28:30.990 --> 00:28:32.730 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And we have an interesting story about

00:28:34.050 --> 00:28:41.550 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Something Classic New York and that's based on a coffee cup, but a lot of people don't wouldn't be able to name it, but almost every New Yorkers seen it.

00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:47.220 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: So I have two favorite stops. There's two favorite things I do on the tour, one of which is

00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:58.320 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: I go to McNulty, so I know we're going to be talking to next and get chocolate roasted espresso beans and my second is, I give out and thorough cups to the tour goers when we

00:28:58.320 --> 00:28:59.520 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Test the name of the man thorough

00:28:59.700 --> 00:29:09.120 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And yeah, and so the authority cup. For those of you. It's a shame. You can't see it, but you know exactly what I'm talking about. It's that paper blue and white cup with the Greek signature on it.

00:29:09.810 --> 00:29:18.990 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And it says we are happy to serve you and of course a lot of people may recognize this from it was brought back into popularity recently when

00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:27.030 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Mad Men featured it on a madman episode law and order. They were always drinking out of the Emperor coffee cups and the history behind it.

00:29:27.600 --> 00:29:33.840 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Was that a guy Czechoslovakia and a Holocaust survivor comes over immigrants from the United

00:29:34.290 --> 00:29:41.520 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: To the United States from Czechoslovakia, he and his brother in law work for the sherry cup company. He's a graphic designer at the time designer.

00:29:41.820 --> 00:29:45.810 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And he they wanted to get the big Greek Diner coffee.

00:29:46.080 --> 00:29:56.970 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Contracts New York because they were Greek diners all over. So he says, well, let's do something, Greek, and he designed the Greek signet and am Thor is a vessel to hold liquid from ancient Greece.

00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:04.380 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: And you'll the original cups have those vases on them and all of the cups, you see today are imposters

00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:18.450 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: Solo cup brought them in the early 2000s and then sold in the 90s. I'm sorry, sold it off in the 2000s, only one company makes the original and thorough and it's called the New York cup and company. And that's where I order mine by the hundreds

00:30:19.740 --> 00:30:23.880 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, it's probably the only cardboard thing ever created, of which there are knockoffs

00:30:24.570 --> 00:30:25.170 Exactly.

00:30:28.740 --> 00:30:37.320 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, we're almost at a time, Justin, but I want to end with a you can go to. We actually have a coffee and tea festival in New York don't weigh in Brooklyn.

00:30:37.620 --> 00:30:48.690 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: That this is great. So the Brooklyn coffee and tea Expo is happening in its at the expo center Brooklyn Expo center in Greenpoint and it's happening. I believe it is December 12 and 13th.

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:58.350 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: It is happening even with coven and they are taking socially distance measures and yeah you can discover new and exotic coffees and teas there.

00:30:59.010 --> 00:31:04.020 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: No. Great. Well, Justin. This has been an illuminating and wonderful conversation is always

00:31:04.500 --> 00:31:20.400 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: One our first guest. Everyone has been Justin rivers Justin is the chief experience officer and lead tour guide of untapped New York formerly called untapped cities, you can find that about their great offerings at WWW dot untapped cities calm that I get that right.

00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:21.090 Justin Rivers, Untapped New York: You did.

00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:34.050 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: All right. Excellent. Well, everyone. We're going to take a short break when we come back we're going to speak to the owner of one of the oldest retail establishments in the city, and I believe the oldest purveyor of coffee and tea in the city will be back in a moment.

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00:35:29.250 --> 00:35:39.120 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, speaking of coffee and tea. Our second guest is the owner of New York's perhaps oldest purveyor of tea and coffee David Huang of technologies tea and coffee company right on Christopher straight

00:35:40.140 --> 00:35:48.900 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: McNulty is has been owned by David's family since 1980 he first started working part time at the shop during high school years, and became full time in business after college.

00:35:49.650 --> 00:36:00.210 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And as he likes to say he's hoping to be in business for another hundred years, the store carries over 100 coffees and over 100 teas and I hope we're going to find out about some of the best ones in a bit.

00:36:00.930 --> 00:36:12.810 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: McNulty was rated as best coffee and tea shop in New York City in Zagat marketplace guide it was featured on the dig with Elma Logan on CBS New York in 2019 and 2020

00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:23.760 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And to top it all off McNulty is was the winner of the village Award from the Greenwich Village society for historic preservation in 2011 David one a hearty welcome to rediscovering New York

00:36:24.330 --> 00:36:25.380 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Hi, Jeff, how are you

00:36:25.740 --> 00:36:27.600 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Good. How you doing, for having me on your show.

00:36:28.050 --> 00:36:33.060 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I really appreciate you making the time, especially since you're closing time to 7pm and our show starts at seven and

00:36:33.870 --> 00:36:34.500 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: No problem.

00:36:35.670 --> 00:36:42.720 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Except for our listeners who are looking at this live on Facebook. Most can i love that background. It's actually a shelf behind you with the store with

00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:43.440 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: This before

00:36:45.180 --> 00:36:46.950 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: For the rubber stamps behind me, too.

00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:57.420 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: That's great. And it's old to yes I'm McDonald's has been in business for 120 years I'm, I'm guessing that someone named McNulty started the business.

00:36:57.750 --> 00:37:07.410 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yes, we've been told her the guy named john McNulty actually own the shot from 1895 so maybe in the 1930s him and his family omit

00:37:08.550 --> 00:37:18.210 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: When the shop first opened back in 1895 it was asked me further down the block than us right now at one or nine but it was located at 125 from the corner of

00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:26.310 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Christopher in Hudson and back then it was a two story building. They were maybe two or three of those two storey buildings.

00:37:26.850 --> 00:37:39.240 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: That the meltdown in 1939 and when the high rates went up somehow. They were very lucky to find the vacant spot right up the block. And it's been here since 1940 that 109 Christopher Street.

00:37:39.690 --> 00:37:44.520 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Wow, that's amazing. You've been there for 80 years will not use specifically, but the business has been there for eight years.

00:37:46.200 --> 00:37:50.790 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Dare I ask a real estate question to you and your family actually on the real estate that you're we

00:37:50.820 --> 00:37:51.480 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: We do not

00:37:52.170 --> 00:37:53.370 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Fortunately, but

00:37:53.400 --> 00:38:05.430 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: But the the good story about this is that none of the oldest ever own the building so up but somehow every owner made it through, including us without any problems. So I say, knock on wood on that.

00:38:06.570 --> 00:38:08.490 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: When did your family by McNulty is David

00:38:08.820 --> 00:38:16.230 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: We've had it since 1980 and the story behind that was that mom my older brother tie used to work through the previous ownership.

00:38:17.220 --> 00:38:31.170 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: When he was in college, he wants to call me it so a tuition up. It was pretty high. So he had to work two jobs to support the tuition up here. So one job was the IRS and the other shop was saw working him LPS

00:38:31.740 --> 00:38:32.670 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: So talk about

00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:35.910 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Different, different kinds of work. Yes.

00:38:36.930 --> 00:38:40.440 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Did your family have a background in in this kind of business, and if not, what

00:38:40.470 --> 00:38:49.080 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: What no no other than my blood that worked here no i i think that was it. You know, and everybody sort of backed up by

00:38:50.220 --> 00:38:54.240 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: By getting behind him on on this project that he wanted to do.

00:38:55.170 --> 00:38:59.820 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: It's great to to see multi generational businesses and it's special for me.

00:39:00.150 --> 00:39:08.220 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: To come across multi generational businesses, but a business that was bought by someone who worked in the business. Yes, water, and then it stayed in the family. So it's just

00:39:08.700 --> 00:39:20.460 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Very spiritually SPECIAL ABOUT THOSE BUSINESSES IN BED. People who not only took them over, but also had had subsequent generations decide that they would make it their, their livelihood and keep and keep the torch going

00:39:20.850 --> 00:39:28.740 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yes. Then I have my death, he was working here well to with my nice so it can, I guess, what will be passing it on to hopefully

00:39:29.610 --> 00:39:32.670 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Did you start working in the 90s right when when your family bought it.

00:39:33.150 --> 00:39:41.730 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yes, maybe, maybe a few years after that, I started, you know, helping out the family on the weekends, mostly, you know, Saturday, Sunday, I was off from school.

00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:55.050 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: So I pitched in and in just, you know, just just help out in LA, I think by working it really opened me up by by quite a bit because I used to be quite quite the introvert, you know, so

00:39:56.130 --> 00:40:03.180 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And now you have a retail business and yes and yes we do actually seeing the piece on CBS. I would never have guessed that you are an introvert.

00:40:04.560 --> 00:40:05.610 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: So happy, you know,

00:40:06.690 --> 00:40:08.070 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: With the customers and and

00:40:08.070 --> 00:40:08.730 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yeah, I think, a

00:40:09.750 --> 00:40:11.130 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Lot. By doing that, yes.

00:40:12.150 --> 00:40:17.400 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I want to ask you, what, what was the, you know, since you you describe yourself as a past introvert.

00:40:18.660 --> 00:40:20.220 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: What kind of

00:40:21.570 --> 00:40:29.970 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Process or journey. Did you go through to decide, okay, I want to do this. I can do this to actually take over the the running of the business.

00:40:30.210 --> 00:40:38.190 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yeah, so, so, so I, you know, like I said before, I was working in during the weekends, you know, throughout high school and college and

00:40:38.970 --> 00:40:53.790 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: After college, my brother, the scientists who get into a different field so we can make it a computer it so. So my dad asked me if I wanted to take over. And I, and I said, sure, you know, let's keep it in the family. Let's keep it going.

00:40:54.870 --> 00:41:03.390 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: How is it. How's the business changed on in terms of what you offer since or has it changed since since since your family bought it 40 years ago.

00:41:04.200 --> 00:41:10.560 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Um, I guess the big changes that we've been, I guess. We do a lot of mail orders. Now, much more so than ever before.

00:41:10.860 --> 00:41:12.660 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And of course online to which didn't exist in

00:41:13.080 --> 00:41:15.300 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Line to yeah like not my nephew's helping

00:41:15.600 --> 00:41:25.170 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: In training all these social media pages, Facebook, Twitter and all that stuff to to help us out even more, you know, just to put the name out there.

00:41:26.460 --> 00:41:31.590 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I know this might be a difficult question because it happened before you and your family took over the business do

00:41:31.590 --> 00:41:33.210 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: You all have or if the business.

00:41:33.210 --> 00:41:40.920 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Changed, aside from the location and the time that it was first started by john McNulty until the time that your family bought at that was like an 85 year

00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.890 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Timeframe yeah time, it started to to when you bought it.

00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:53.070 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yeah. The funny thing is that we heard the story from the elderly lady that came in, I think, in the 90s, so she told us that she remember governments who the original shop.

00:41:53.640 --> 00:42:00.480 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: And she was shopping there with her parents and her parents bought coffee, but the body part a bag of popcorn for her.

00:42:01.110 --> 00:42:13.230 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: So we envision this store to be maybe more of a general store than the actual coffee and tea shop like like it is today, you know, with specializes in solving tea and coffee, but maybe they have other products through

00:42:15.120 --> 00:42:20.760 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I want to ask you about the challenges that McDonald's has faced in business in turbulent times

00:42:21.870 --> 00:42:34.980 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Even though the drinks of coffee and tea or such an important part of the lives of most Americans and certainly most workers on the first thing that comes to mind for me, believe it or not being a history Maven as a second World War. And I'm interested because we're off. He was rationed

00:42:35.700 --> 00:42:39.240 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Yes. Do you know if that impacted the business at all.

00:42:41.460 --> 00:42:43.740 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Before you're on the planet, obviously, but yeah.

00:42:43.830 --> 00:42:50.160 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: I would say, you probably did for little bit. Um, but somehow people store survive.

00:42:51.060 --> 00:43:00.480 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Back then I because right now. I think we have over 100 coffees and over 100 teas and back then the probably only have a fraction of what we carry down

00:43:00.990 --> 00:43:08.610 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: So even though that they might be irrational on coffee. Maybe the T cells were better you know back then. I'm not sure.

00:43:09.060 --> 00:43:19.200 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: But, but even coffee going back, I think, to the Civil War days there you know it was a coffee shorter Soviet you put sugar in it. And that's why we have new orleans coffee what's triggering nowadays.

00:43:19.650 --> 00:43:20.250 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Right, yeah.

00:43:21.180 --> 00:43:32.910 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I always thought I'm new world, as I like to say southern Louisiana used to be my second home. I used to go to New Orleans, all the time. We coffee. And I just thought that it was something that people did because it tasted good. And that was

00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:34.980 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: The. No, it was actually uses a filler.

00:43:35.130 --> 00:43:35.640 So right

00:43:37.470 --> 00:43:39.510 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: So Neil that extended the coffee.

00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.410 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And of course there were blockades in the south and that's it you know

00:43:44.370 --> 00:43:49.380 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Certain things were rationed in this country because they wanted to during the war effort because they wanted to make sure the troops had it, but I read

00:43:49.680 --> 00:44:07.080 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: That the reason why coffee was rationed and not t was because coffee was imported in the via the Atlantic Ocean and German U boats operating and so coffee importation really went down, but not so with tea because there wasn't really you boat activity and the Pacific.

00:44:07.290 --> 00:44:08.490 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: So, all right.

00:44:08.730 --> 00:44:22.560 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: To continue to to come here and the I also read and was kind of fascinated by coffee was the first thing that came off the rationalist. They kept decreasing the not the amount of coffee, a family could have

00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:23.670 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Because there was such a

00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:31.380 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: It wasn't an uproar about butter and in need as much as there was coffee. So, so, Rosemary did away with that. He said, Well, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna

00:44:33.090 --> 00:44:37.230 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Maybe he was imagining a coffee drinkers coming with pitchforks to the White House and

00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:39.720 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: So,

00:44:39.900 --> 00:44:43.260 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: So many people will be coffee to get them going in the morning, so why not, right.

00:44:44.790 --> 00:44:50.400 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I want to ask you about one of the difficulty and this would have happened after your family on the shop for so many years.

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:58.890 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Christopher Street was the physical and spiritual center of the LGBT community in the city, and especially the stretch of Christopher Street between Blue Cross industries, you know,

00:44:59.160 --> 00:45:11.550 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: It used. I used to actually do business there I from 1986 to 92 I used to publish, you may have even seen them. They used to be called the gay fun maps, they were they were maps of businesses and we did business with

00:45:11.580 --> 00:45:12.060 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Oh, yes.

00:45:12.180 --> 00:45:13.500 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: I remember them. Yes.

00:45:13.620 --> 00:45:17.850 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Um, and I know some of the businesses, aside from the bars, but also the retail shops.

00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:32.370 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: That didn't even particularly have an exclusive to the gay clientele like the candle shop and and lilacs chocolates were really impacted by the AIDS epidemic which decimated a substantial part of the community, people who lived in the West Village.

00:45:32.730 --> 00:45:36.030 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Was was mentalities business at all impacted by

00:45:36.330 --> 00:45:36.510 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: By

00:45:36.540 --> 00:45:46.470 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: I think was impacted a little bit because we do have a lot of fog a clientele. Um, I think when it first started, you know, people didn't know what it was and

00:45:46.890 --> 00:45:51.900 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: As it started happening, we started seeing a lot of our customers getting very sick.

00:45:52.620 --> 00:45:59.400 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: You know, so a lot of people were coming in and they were you know healthy and then over over the span of like five, six years, they

00:46:00.300 --> 00:46:16.680 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: You know, they, they were very second and we noticed that, you know, with more people passing away to do to aids on it. It didn't affect the business quite a bit, you know, at that point from the, I would say from the 80s Toby early 90s mid 90s.

00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.860 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Sadly, some of your neighbors. I actually knew them. I used to do business with Robin kill gallon of the candle shop and advise lie.

00:46:22.860 --> 00:46:25.230 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Like let's say they succumb yeah

00:46:25.740 --> 00:46:26.910 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Very sad time, you know,

00:46:27.240 --> 00:46:41.310 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: So, well, we're gonna take a short break and when we come back we're going to continue our excitement about caffeinated products coffee and tea with David one over owner of McNulty tea and coffee company on Christopher Street will be back in a moment.

00:48:57.150 --> 00:49:04.500 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: We're back and you're back to rediscovering New York and our special episode about coffee and tea in New York, past and present.

00:49:04.830 --> 00:49:20.430 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: My second guest is David Wong David and his family on McNulty is tea and coffee company a business that's been on Christopher Street in the West Village since 1895 125 years has to be one of the oldest retail businesses in the city, David, I gotta be like in the top 1% I'm thinking

00:49:21.540 --> 00:49:28.380 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: I think so. I think so. I'll probably so in Puerto Rico, you know, the new the two oldest shops in the city.

00:49:28.980 --> 00:49:34.590 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Uh huh, are really well. You're older than Puerto Rico Puerto Rico's young and then you have 12 years younger than you.

00:49:35.010 --> 00:49:35.430 Yeah.

00:49:37.380 --> 00:49:37.650 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: I'm

00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:44.760 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Your business has to have been impacted by the pandemic, but I know you're open now. I hope things are going, you know, pretty much back to normal for for the

00:49:44.970 --> 00:49:56.160 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Things look pretty much crap to normal. I think the the would certainly been doing a lot of mail orders on a lot of our customers moved away, you know, either to upstate New York East eastern North Ireland.

00:49:56.940 --> 00:50:03.330 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: So, a lot of them have been asking us to ship them coughing. So, you know, so between that part of helping out

00:50:04.470 --> 00:50:16.680 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: The only part that's missing. I guess what meters, you know, whether they be domestic or international, you know, so hopefully you know with the vaccine coming out, you know, hopefully next year will be a lot better.

00:50:17.250 --> 00:50:22.530 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, that will come back. I mean, I was actually on a call today little real estate business. I was on a call today with

00:50:23.070 --> 00:50:29.490 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: My company's economist and we were talking about just the real estate market, but also the city's economy and and he thought that

00:50:30.150 --> 00:50:47.100 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: The business in the city will be back to normal, including tourism maybe within two years, but should pick, you know, begin to pick up again next year. Yes. Well, one of I think my favorite part about this interview with you is to is to ask you about the coffees and teas about the flavors.

00:50:47.520 --> 00:50:49.590 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Oh yes, are the most distinctive

00:50:49.620 --> 00:50:51.360 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: coffees and teas that you haven't McNulty.

00:50:51.930 --> 00:51:02.790 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: I would say that one of the most distinctive coffees would be the geisha coffee on it. Scroll nowadays, either in Panama or Columbia, we have the Columbia version of that.

00:51:03.270 --> 00:51:18.060 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: But the same Ethiopian varietals that that they grow in small batches in small crops in in Colombia and Panama and it has a very unusual flavor, but, uh, but very exquisite and not none. No. No other coffee tastes like

00:51:18.930 --> 00:51:19.530 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Really know I have

00:51:19.650 --> 00:51:30.900 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: To say that if I would describe it and spacing, a little bit fruity a maybe a little, you know, little sweet little honey those through it, but at the same exceptional

00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:40.050 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Do you ever blend coffees that are sort of pre blended because I know teams are blended, but I know it's this. It may sound like a stupid question, but I don't

00:51:40.050 --> 00:51:42.210 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: know much about coffee or tea.

00:51:42.780 --> 00:51:51.960 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yeah, we have a lot of plants that that we do. We have a houseplant, for example, that we mix Mexican Costa Rican and French rose Columbia.

00:51:52.380 --> 00:52:01.770 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: And I think that's been the house mixture here in the shop for the last 80 or 90 years. So we do have a lot of coffee blends and we also blend stuff with people.

00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:14.040 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: You know, if you were to come in and say, I would like you know 40% Colombian 30% so Ethiopian and 20% French folks will do it after you pointed out for you.

00:52:14.820 --> 00:52:20.640 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: One thing I'm really impressed about your business. David is the records you keep if your customers who want specific blends.

00:52:21.090 --> 00:52:24.240 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Yeah, I haven't seen it personally, but I've seen it on the CBS

00:52:26.010 --> 00:52:32.580 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: You had those you have an extensive card catalog with people's names and you know the kind of blends that they've ordered in the past and the kind of

00:52:32.610 --> 00:52:34.710 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Oh, sure. I think requested. Yes.

00:52:35.970 --> 00:52:39.510 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Um, what are some of them were distinctive tease that you that you have at the shop.

00:52:40.050 --> 00:52:47.580 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Are probably one would be some of these are very fantasy teams like there's a green tea from Nepal that that we saw a lot of

00:52:48.150 --> 00:53:04.380 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: It's called the poor honey green because it has a sweet flavor to it, another really good one, which was probably one of my favorites. He's it's golden monkey is a black tea from from Russia and China, and it also has a sweet Caravelle notes to it.

00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.220 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Yeah. And is that blended at all to get that or is it

00:53:09.060 --> 00:53:12.060 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: From specifically is a straight up to

00:53:13.380 --> 00:53:20.460 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Do you get your coffees and teas from foreign suppliers or do you get them from like someone who import some low

00:53:20.490 --> 00:53:23.070 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yeah, we went to a local Lisa, we get it from importers.

00:53:23.790 --> 00:53:36.570 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: You know coffees, we get it from local roaster speakers we can roast coffee shop you know anymore. I think the last time that we roasted coffee shop was back in the either the late 50s, early 60s.

00:53:37.950 --> 00:53:45.480 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: The EPA wouldn't allow a roasting in a residential neighborhood, you know, because of the smoke and the fire hazard and all that stuff.

00:53:46.170 --> 00:53:57.750 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Ah, um, you know, attached to one of our windows in the back, just the we spoke stack where we syrup's coffee. The roaster you know use we have that spot but not anymore.

00:53:58.140 --> 00:53:59.340 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: But the smokestack is still there.

00:53:59.970 --> 00:54:00.930 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: It's still there. Yes.

00:54:01.230 --> 00:54:02.550 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Great day taking them.

00:54:03.030 --> 00:54:10.980 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, for our guests who've never seen pictures of McNulty, is it really harkens back to 200 years ago that's it's, it's an old

00:54:11.190 --> 00:54:17.400 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Guy for shop with and it's really beautiful. I would recommend anyone go in there, even if you're not a coffee or tea drinker.

00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:23.880 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yes. A lot of people described it as a coffee and tea museum, you know, it's just like, what have everything in here.

00:54:25.050 --> 00:54:34.110 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: What does into you deciding that you want to put you want to carry a new blend of tea or coffee in the store, what, how do you, how do you

00:54:34.350 --> 00:54:42.390 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Sometimes by your by by popular demand, you know that that's always a big key you know if enough people request it. Cool. We'll do our best to bring it in.

00:54:43.110 --> 00:54:53.490 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Um, and then you know others maybe we would get samples from our suppliers and if anything strikes strikes us being really good, then I will consider bringing that into

00:54:54.390 --> 00:54:57.150 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Our all of your coffees and blends listed on your website david

00:54:57.540 --> 00:54:58.440 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yes, they are. Yes.

00:54:59.100 --> 00:55:01.020 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And that website address is

00:55:01.470 --> 00:55:07.350 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: The website address is WWW dot dot com without the apostrophe.

00:55:09.750 --> 00:55:19.500 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: You know, one thing I was a little disappointed personally is that I checked your website out and you're out of the premium coffee and the premium t give sets.

00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:20.820 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: That

00:55:21.060 --> 00:55:24.420 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: That that's going to be back in next next week or in two weeks, I would say.

00:55:24.870 --> 00:55:25.200 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Okay, it's

00:55:25.410 --> 00:55:27.300 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Time for the holidays, as we speak right now.

00:55:27.930 --> 00:55:28.530 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Good, excellent.

00:55:28.710 --> 00:55:31.710 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Do you, do you have the main and package. Would you do that yourself.

00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:38.670 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Are we are some way we have it made up for us by someone else. But as for some week we package ourselves.

00:55:40.650 --> 00:55:48.900 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: And I have one last question for you. Is there a favorite coffee that you love more than anything else to drink. And the same with the team.

00:55:49.410 --> 00:56:00.540 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Uh, I probably can pinpoint one but I'm gonna say for coffees probably Sumatra would be one of them and maybe it'll one from from Puerto Rico.

00:56:01.530 --> 00:56:17.430 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: That you mentioned earlier with Justin, you know that that's one of my favorite coffee. I'll be able to select though, and it fits. He's probably the golden monkey and also another Chinese flag call using the number nine, that's another really full body t that I love.

00:56:18.150 --> 00:56:24.330 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Well, the next time I'm down on Christopher Street. I'm gonna have to stop in and get some for myself or actually I could order it on the website aren't even very

00:56:24.450 --> 00:56:26.280 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Good. I want the full experience.

00:56:27.630 --> 00:56:32.850 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I've one of the question for you. Would you say that that you sell more coffee and more to the shop.

00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:37.440 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: I would say probably with some more coffee in this way, Jeff.

00:56:38.790 --> 00:56:52.770 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: We saw more coffee because apparently coffee makes only 30 cups and apparel of team makes maybe 100 cups. So, so the you know the people buying coffee will always come back more often than the people buying t

00:56:54.570 --> 00:56:58.560 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Because of that, because of the, the difference in the cups. Right.

00:56:58.890 --> 00:57:01.500 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: It takes less to make a cup of tea than coffee to make a cup of coffee.

00:57:01.530 --> 00:57:03.150 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Correct. Yes, yes.

00:57:04.170 --> 00:57:11.760 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: All right. Well, David, thank you so much for being a guest on the program. It was great to have you. And I'm glad to see that your business is open and in business again and

00:57:12.540 --> 00:57:20.160 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: We haven't met yet face to face. Ordinarily, we do this in studio, obviously, but with a pen. Right. We're doing it on zoom, but I'm looking forward to meeting you hopefully really soon.

00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.010 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: Yes, we made three white. Thank you so much for having me.

00:57:23.820 --> 00:57:24.720 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: My pleasure.

00:57:24.780 --> 00:57:40.560 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: My pleasure. Our second guest in this program about coffee and tea and New York has been David one David and his family on with northeast tea and coffee company. It's at 125 Christopher Street and you can find out about their offerings online@www.ne com

00:57:40.890 --> 00:57:43.140 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: I'll check with nine Christopher

00:57:43.200 --> 00:57:46.770 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: I'm sorry one or nine. Thank you for correcting me. I want people to enjoy.

00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:49.260 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Maybe they wind up with a weatherman or something at

00:57:49.260 --> 00:57:52.320 David Wong, McNulty's Tea & Coffee: 125 95 to 39

00:57:52.620 --> 00:57:53.640 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Okay, okay.

00:57:54.030 --> 00:57:55.770 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Thank you. That's one or nine Christopher Street, everybody.

00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:03.060 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: If you have comments or questions about the show, or if you'd like to get on our mailing list, please email me, Jeff at rediscovering New York that NYC.

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00:58:19.830 --> 00:58:26.970 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: One more thing before we sign off, I'm Jeff Goodman, a real estate agent and brown Harris Stevens in New York City and whether you're selling, buying or leasing or renting

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00:58:37.740 --> 00:58:45.930 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: The show's producer is Ralph story or our engineer this evening continues to be the great Sam Leibowitz our special consultant is David Griffin of landmark

00:58:45.930 --> 00:58:48.990 Jeff Goodman, Rediscovering New York: Branding. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.


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