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Friday, October 16, 2020

2020/10/16 - Expressing The Inexpressible

[NEW EPISODE] Expressing The Inexpressible

This one is a real honor!

Michael Khoury was a teenage student of mine when I taught music in Buffalo, NY many, many moons ago. He's now a grown man and has developed into quite the professional musician, dj & entrepreneur and has one of the most positive dispositions on the internet.

 In this episode we'll catch up, talk about old times and hear what this talented young man has in store for the world!

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Show Notes

Segment 1

“Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keep you going.”


Jeremiah introduces the guest of the show Michael Khoury, the two reminiscing on their personal history. He talks about when he first found his passions and inspirations for music, outlining his journey as a bedroom musician to a professional DJ. Jeremiah then inquires about the first business moves of his careers, Michael, a business major, trying to find his footing in a couple different industries and attempting to learn what he was really passionate about.

Segment 2

Michael talked about his transition from insurance to music, getting into DJing and applying his knowledge as a business major to his current profession. The conversation goes back and forth about music, skill-developing and honing in on one's passions, Gary Vaynerchuck, and drumming.

Segment 3

Jeremiah talks about first finding his passion for Brazilian jiu-jitsu along with working as a musician. He also talks about adaptability, finding one’s strengths, and finding out where you fit among a large group. Jeremiah brings it back to motivations and habits, why both are necessary to each other, Michael talking about the importance of personal growth and avoiding stagnation.


“If you’re not growing, you’re dying.”

Segment 4

Michael relates his experiences of working at weddings during the pandemic, sharing his excitement for getting to learn and grow from these difficult challenges. Michael talks about what he wants to do once everything opens back up, sharing his long-term goals as well, advocating for people to be realistic and stay positive. Michael ends the show with sharing his contact information for listeners.

 00:00:38.010 --> 00:00:44.190 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Rock on everybody. Happy Friday. I'm your host, Jeremiah, Fox, it is time for the entrepreneurial end

00:00:46.080 --> 00:00:50.460 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Today, very special guests. Before we get started, a brief history. I

00:00:51.390 --> 00:01:04.380 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Mentioned before some of you know, but for those of you don't I have a master's degree in music performance and percussion from the University of Buffalo, which I received in 2004 so it's been about three, three and a half years of my life up there.

00:01:05.340 --> 00:01:13.980 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Learning the craft and music but also performing and teaching and I had a large number of students throughout my my period there and

00:01:14.460 --> 00:01:24.630 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: My guest today is a former student, he was a teenager, at the time, he'll correct me if I'm wrong when he comes on, but I believe he was about 13 or 14 and we're talking that was like

00:01:25.440 --> 00:01:39.780 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: 1516 years ago. So he's grown ass man now and very active with his own music business but also really, really hot on social media and just always we reconnected somewhere along the line.

00:01:40.380 --> 00:01:53.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And he really captured my attention with particularly his positivity and just his solid relentless good messages. So today I'm going to quote him. He just pop this up on Facebook the other day.

00:01:54.240 --> 00:02:07.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I just could not agree more 1,000% motivation is what gets you started habit is what keeps you going and like we've all developed some habits.

00:02:07.620 --> 00:02:24.720 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Lately, some good, some bad, especially since March so we'll dissect that a little bit today, talk about this amazingly talented young man and what he's got going on with that I would like to welcome to the show. Michael Corey, Michael, how in the hell are you. It has been a long time.

00:02:25.290 --> 00:02:28.830 michael khoury: Jeremiah so nice to see you. Thank you so much for having me on the show.

00:02:28.950 --> 00:02:29.760 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You're grown

00:02:31.320 --> 00:02:33.150 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Where's the little long haired teenager.

00:02:33.510 --> 00:02:35.430 michael khoury: And I had the big poofy hair and

00:02:35.430 --> 00:02:35.820 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Did

00:02:35.910 --> 00:02:36.990 michael khoury: You play the drums that

00:02:39.060 --> 00:02:42.810 michael khoury: I owe you so much, you know, for those early years for what you taught me sitting by

00:02:43.890 --> 00:02:58.350 michael khoury: I not just theory, but you just taught me like a you know a great mentality to have fun playing music and I always still reflect back to those lessons here in East Aurora sitting behind that, you know, double back to back kit with you. So thank you for having me on.

00:02:59.130 --> 00:02:59.790 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Central not

00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:07.980 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The pleasure. The pleasure is all mine and I was going to ask, like, I wanted to take credit for all your positivity and then I was looking back, I was like, now would be

00:03:09.060 --> 00:03:16.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Talking about back then, we were just having fun. So Michael is in a mate. What is it doing back. Was that what used to bring in all the time.

00:03:16.260 --> 00:03:17.430 michael khoury: Yeah, yeah, they're broke up.

00:03:17.670 --> 00:03:20.700 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, there you go. He's got her. I knew, you're gonna rip it out today.

00:03:20.910 --> 00:03:22.890 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: He would come in with this drum these like

00:03:22.920 --> 00:03:25.140 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Just a little bit bigger than the damn thing at the time.

00:03:25.200 --> 00:03:25.830 michael khoury: And just like

00:03:25.890 --> 00:03:34.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Tear it up and I'm like kids got some beat. Not for nothing. It's in his blood his dad is very, very successful musician as well. I mean, so on and

00:03:35.190 --> 00:03:42.930 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It's played all over the world. Right. And you've got to you, are you good to see that as a kid, and you've got to participate as a grown as a grown man to

00:03:43.650 --> 00:03:47.790 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So what we, I think we spoke on the phone once like

00:03:48.600 --> 00:03:56.490 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was probably close to like 10 years ago or something like that. And otherwise, we haven't seen each other. And so this is the first time we've actually spoken and I love doing this with the show, especially

00:03:56.820 --> 00:04:00.240 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know us. I don't know. I was like, Hey, well, you come on you like do I got to come to New York.

00:04:01.290 --> 00:04:06.720 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That used to be the thing I've been doing this show for about a year now and we always the studio's right over by Madison Square Garden.

00:04:06.930 --> 00:04:15.930 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So we would, you know, we would always have our guests in in studio and that was like the requirement because people would reach out and say, Hey, can I be on your show. And I'm like, yeah, if you come to New York and I happen.

00:04:17.130 --> 00:04:28.110 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But the amazing thing happened when we, when we had to go remote and it really got me out of my own limitations, where I was like, No, no, I really want like intimacy. I love that, you know, that's my thing like now I own a restaurant.

00:04:28.440 --> 00:04:34.170 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I do a lot. I've run several businesses, they're all based on intimacy and human connection. So it was, I was like, No, that's how I operate.

00:04:34.440 --> 00:04:39.690 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But this has been really great and helping me connect with people, first of all, that never would have had the opportunity to

00:04:40.230 --> 00:04:48.180 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Otherwise, and it's been fantastic but then to do stuff like this and like we didn't even talk we just sent a couple of messages and I like I just love the

00:04:48.600 --> 00:05:00.600 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Just the gray area and it's like how we used to play right we would just sit down and like what are we going to do today, then you start know you start and then just like play be and we had that kind of communication. So it's gonna be fun to see how this plays out today.

00:05:01.140 --> 00:05:08.820 michael khoury: Absolutely and that's what I love to about the lessons, was I didn't feel that I was so regimented and it took the fun out of it. I would sit with you and we would just create and

00:05:09.150 --> 00:05:21.540 michael khoury: I would play something and you'd be like okay and this and this. And then it just made me grow into really loving you know being a drummer was, you know, being with yourself. I look forward to the interview today. Thank you.

00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:22.050 michael khoury: Yeah.

00:05:22.320 --> 00:05:31.350 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It's awesome. So let's let's give everybody a little background of you you you grew up, just outside of Buffalo and East Aurora, just south of the city.

00:05:32.310 --> 00:05:44.370 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Again, your father, very, very successful musician and you and your brother as well like started very early. So when you came to me you had that you had the nasty beat alright dude had swing, is that correct naming naming

00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:51.540 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was it was no problem. You're just like you were transferring it to like four limbs and putting it on the drums that

00:05:52.620 --> 00:05:54.300 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You pick it up from there. That's all I remember

00:05:54.930 --> 00:06:03.210 michael khoury: Yeah, I mean I just consider it all a blessing. Thank god grew up in the small town of Easter. Ah, you know, have you as a big inspiration, of course, had my father.

00:06:04.440 --> 00:06:06.570 michael khoury: You know, I'm here in his music room where it all started.

00:06:06.570 --> 00:06:10.350 michael khoury: Out my first role Yamaha electronic kit and

00:06:10.380 --> 00:06:15.390 michael khoury: Oh yeah, Alex would jam in here, he'd be playing on the guitar AC DC on his Gibson SG

00:06:15.960 --> 00:06:24.990 michael khoury: And, you know, we've just be jamming. And, of course, to be practicing with dad in here, he'd be playing the keyboard and singing still does. Yeah. And I'm saying. I'm saying

00:06:25.710 --> 00:06:30.990 michael khoury: It. So, this room is really just kind of where everything started so I wanted to take the interview back into here and we've

00:06:31.650 --> 00:06:46.260 michael khoury: Been the source of all my learning my most of my life. But yeah, just grew up, you know, with dad. By the time I was maybe a little bit older than doing lessons with you, maybe a year or so about 14 started doing, you know, traveling with him.

00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:47.610 michael khoury: Around a

00:06:47.670 --> 00:06:55.470 michael khoury: You know, playing double God and playing any profession I could get my hands on and then moving to bring in the the drum set into the Arabic world.

00:06:55.890 --> 00:07:05.850 michael khoury: And doing world precautions and regular, you know, American set into that and integrating it and it was a lot of fun did it to throughout college and still to this day.

00:07:06.810 --> 00:07:12.900 michael khoury: And then just transitioned into moving into other different types of percussion instruments and then keyboard.

00:07:13.410 --> 00:07:25.890 michael khoury: Which was huge for me just helping me to be able to do melodies. Wow, and enjoy a melody was a you know a big step. And then from there, transitioned into DJ. So it's been quite, quite a wild ride.

00:07:26.280 --> 00:07:41.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, definitely. And you so you but you were also involved like the first social media stuff. I saw from us going back years it was definitely like more business oriented. Did you did you study business in college is that was, that was the direction you were taking the time.

00:07:41.700 --> 00:07:47.220 michael khoury: Yeah, University of Buffalo. I studied international trade. So Arabic learn how to read and write and

00:07:47.760 --> 00:07:59.460 michael khoury: I love that business aspect of it and then wanted to just blend it with the music because I see so many, you know, aside from my family just so many successful people who are able to do what they love and

00:08:00.270 --> 00:08:04.920 michael khoury: cash in on their passion, while providing value to others and making others happy so

00:08:05.550 --> 00:08:13.980 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I gotta ask this because I've heard so many of these messages coming through and and it's also been a big influence on me. You have to be down with Gary Vee

00:08:14.370 --> 00:08:14.760 Love them.

00:08:16.740 --> 00:08:20.220 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I'm just like man this guy, he had to watch them like Gary Vee videos.

00:08:20.520 --> 00:08:21.390 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That show funny.

00:08:22.140 --> 00:08:24.870 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, it's funny for me because I got into him and like

00:08:25.320 --> 00:08:29.340 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like I said, you know, I was still doing a lot of music when I first moved to the city, but it's just like

00:08:29.550 --> 00:08:40.680 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It's really it you know you can make a decent living up in Buffalo doing it here. It's a little bit different, you know, you don't you don't make a lot of money in the city. So if you're not traveling or does a number of other things you can do. Um,

00:08:41.310 --> 00:08:48.450 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I just, you know, we started to have kids and stuff. As soon as we moved here. So the food industry just kind of took over, which I did up there. I don't know if you remember that, but I

00:08:48.450 --> 00:08:55.500 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Definitely spent a lot of time in that and I started selling wine pretty early on and my buddy was like yo you you like

00:08:55.710 --> 00:09:01.440 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, talking about wine in these strange ways. You should check this guy, this was like 2007 so I checked out wine.

00:09:01.710 --> 00:09:10.950 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Library TV. And I was like, Oh, amazing and I watched it for like six months and then we got really busy and just like I got into the world and was like opening mad businesses and all kinds of crazy stuff.

00:09:11.280 --> 00:09:16.890 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And for like 10 years like just didn't even use YouTube. I was like, the people who like go to YouTube and I'm like how

00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:29.850 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But a friend like 10 years later, sends me this clip and and and he was in it and I was like, I remember that guy. And I was like, he's not talking about wine anymore what what happened.

00:09:30.510 --> 00:09:39.660 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: He was like this mega mega personality. And I was like, oh, wow, but the message was the same thing that kind of I always felt, and it was really awesome seeing you.

00:09:40.350 --> 00:09:50.730 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Kind of exuding that same thing. And I was like, watching this kid now like you're back on my radar and and here we are. You also I used your quote a couple weeks ago because I

00:09:51.810 --> 00:09:57.330 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: was interviewed on do. Do you know a drummer named Ted poor. He was from up there, actually.

00:09:57.810 --> 00:09:58.440 michael khoury: No, I don't.

00:09:59.340 --> 00:09:59.970 michael khoury: look him up.

00:10:00.090 --> 00:10:09.450 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, you should. He's amazing. He's, he's from just outside of Rochester. And he went to Eastman when my wife was going to the University of Rochester. So I became familiar with him back then.

00:10:09.750 --> 00:10:19.140 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But now he's like he's on impulse record it seems played with everybody under the sun. And he did a do all of them at the beginning of the year with one of my neighbors, who's out like the neighborhood, we live in and Brooklyn. It's just like

00:10:19.620 --> 00:10:26.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The most ridiculous amazing musicians like all these guys are like International, you know, internationally renowned artists. This is just where they live and like

00:10:26.670 --> 00:10:34.890 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Our kids went to school together and stuff like that. It's really funny if they did like a an all star band in my neighborhood. It would just like each your face off like Yani would be like, damn,

00:10:36.180 --> 00:10:41.700 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like they're just they're that good. So one of my neighbors did a dual album with him. And you know, I, you know,

00:10:42.060 --> 00:10:49.590 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Just was a really big fan. And we were even going to do a little release show at one of my places and it all fell through, because of because of Kobe.

00:10:50.130 --> 00:10:58.710 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So I brought them on the show a couple weeks ago. And right before I did you posted something you posted that Aldous Huxley, quote, quote, and I used it. So I've already closed you on the show once

00:10:59.070 --> 00:10:59.460 michael khoury: So you're

00:11:00.090 --> 00:11:08.700 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You're sleeping in your sleeping and it's funny cuz I'm like I was a big outage Huxley fan and even as a team and I started reading them and when you drop that I was like, I'm

00:11:10.020 --> 00:11:12.930 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So throughout the course of the show, be great. We don't have to do it all at once.

00:11:14.130 --> 00:11:25.350 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, talk about those factors in, especially in terms of business because I've found a bunch of different ways to do it where you know we got into music because we love the way made us feel right. And that expression you spoke already about

00:11:25.770 --> 00:11:37.590 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, being able to share your passion and for guys like you and I, a lot of that has to do with like just sharing this thing we have inside of us. And when we met and we didn't even talk about it. It was just like

00:11:38.070 --> 00:11:42.600 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I remember that first lesson. You just came in and started playing it, I was like oh would you get a little toy and you're like, I

00:11:43.830 --> 00:11:45.120 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Was like, okay.

00:11:45.930 --> 00:11:47.070 michael khoury: It was there.

00:11:47.280 --> 00:11:48.840 michael khoury: Is yeah right from the beginning.

00:11:49.110 --> 00:11:58.350 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Exactly. And it's great to see that you've, you've really taken it throughout your life as well. Like, I don't know about you, my journey was quite a meandering one but

00:11:58.830 --> 00:12:07.590 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, based off your social media posts. It seems like you you had a little bit more of a straight line. I could be mistaken and we have the whole show to kind of hash that out like

00:12:07.980 --> 00:12:24.090 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Um, what, what did you do, first in terms of business, you know, you've got this international trade degree from UB what was like the first move. I know you always had music around and doing it. But what was kind of the first move in terms of the business aspect of your, your career.

00:12:24.390 --> 00:12:35.340 michael khoury: Yeah, the first move really was right out of college went into like a medical sales job realized that neck. I know wasn't for me stifling creativity, kind of like put me in a little bit of a box.

00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:45.450 michael khoury: And so from there, you know, I ended up just not working out at all. So those were still those when I was about 22 or so and

00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:53.250 michael khoury: I just tried different things. I went and worked in family businesses doing sales. I always knew sales with something I love because that's the lifeblood of

00:12:53.700 --> 00:13:06.420 michael khoury: Of any business. What really I feel what really changed my direction in life was when I got into. And so this day. It's not something that I was at all successful in but it gave me the mindset was network marketing.

00:13:06.990 --> 00:13:15.030 michael khoury: I got into it because of the books and the personal development that I would start reading the people I was around that just constantly focused on good input.

00:13:15.450 --> 00:13:26.310 michael khoury: equaling good output. So whatever you read what you listen to every day ends up coming out. So what I did was I got into some of those business in the businesses in the legal and insurances industry.

00:13:26.760 --> 00:13:39.570 michael khoury: And again, it wasn't something that I took off, or did super well in in network marketing, but I took that and I applied it into music into, you know, being a percussionist into DJ into

00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:42.810 michael khoury: Just the whole aspect of being a holistic

00:13:43.590 --> 00:13:52.710 michael khoury: Consultant for music. And that's where I just felt like it just started to take off because all I would be doing is providing value to people going above and beyond.

00:13:53.070 --> 00:14:01.170 michael khoury: And it just started those little seeds I I planted started growing so so this day, you know, I just still enjoy reading positive

00:14:02.130 --> 00:14:14.010 michael khoury: You know, books, positive quotes listening to, you know, positive messages and then applying that into business, of course, mixing that with practicality to using other successful people have done in that modeling that

00:14:15.390 --> 00:14:17.400 michael khoury: Yeah. Does that kind of answer the question. Yeah.

00:14:17.430 --> 00:14:18.180 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: No, it's perfect.

00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.460 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It's beautiful awesome and sharing them too.

00:14:20.580 --> 00:14:27.240 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Because you guys dropping them off and dropping little bits on Instagram and Facebook and really that's that's what captured my attention so

00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:39.810 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Cool. Well, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll come back and I want to pick up with like the transition away from those industries and really plugging it into music and being successful that way. So hang tight, everybody will be back in just a few

00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:45.210 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: at WWW.

00:16:55.980 --> 00:17:04.320 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yes, yes, yes. Welcome back folks if you're just tuning in, you are listening to the entrepreneurial web. I'm your host, Jeremiah, Fox. My guest today is actually a former

00:17:04.590 --> 00:17:14.490 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Music student of mine, many, many moons ago and I was a drum instructor and music instructor in Buffalo, New York, we have since very connected. It's been about 15 years our first time.

00:17:14.820 --> 00:17:22.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Second time actually catching up in that period, but it's been quite a long time since we've talked so welcoming back to the show. Michael Cory, he

00:17:23.430 --> 00:17:31.650 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, did that a business degree at University of Buffalo always had music in his in his life, his father's a professional musician, his brother as well.

00:17:32.280 --> 00:17:50.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Big musical family and he's taken his approach and his lessons from business like big business industry business and plugged it into the music industry. So I'd love to hear now transitioning from your stint. And I think you said insurance and there was something else.

00:17:51.600 --> 00:18:00.540 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: What you discovered from there and how that helps you build the business that you have now, which seems to be doing well, even in a pandemic time

00:18:01.470 --> 00:18:09.750 michael khoury: Thank God. So, you know, just as time went on I got out of college tried a bunch of different things network marketing being something that

00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:12.330 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Marketing has what it was. Yes.

00:18:12.570 --> 00:18:15.960 michael khoury: Yeah, it just helped me to kind of get the mindset of, you know,

00:18:17.490 --> 00:18:25.830 michael khoury: Reading and digesting good material and applying it realistically, you know, into what I love to do.

00:18:26.310 --> 00:18:37.290 michael khoury: So basically, from there, I had the blessing of, of course, still touring with that after college, you know, working a full time anybody I would read, you know, the business grades will talk about keep your full time job.

00:18:37.950 --> 00:18:42.420 michael khoury: You know, as long as you can while building your passion on the side you know Gary Vee talks about it.

00:18:42.420 --> 00:18:45.090 michael khoury: Absolutely. The great Jim Rome.

00:18:45.360 --> 00:18:55.650 michael khoury: And many others. So that's just basically what I started doing. I didn't want to jump in two feet first and then be desperate for every single opportunity. I figured I would just still use my degree.

00:18:56.340 --> 00:19:04.740 michael khoury: You know what I'd studied build on that and then also on the side just continue to cultivate and grow with music. So

00:19:05.190 --> 00:19:13.470 michael khoury: continued working, you know, with my dad, you know, of course, still till this date, you know, touring and doing, you know, Lebanese, and Arabic, you know, shows all over

00:19:13.950 --> 00:19:22.770 michael khoury: But then also to I'd started getting into learning about DJ and that really was. What kind of helped things, you know, to explode.

00:19:23.700 --> 00:19:34.860 michael khoury: So basically, while touring with that I would start, you know, DJ and doing announcements, all that stuff in between, instead of just focusing on, you know, rocking out behind the kit and then afterwards, I don't want to think about anything.

00:19:35.370 --> 00:19:44.610 michael khoury: I figured, okay, I'm going to take more responsibility here. I'm going to, you know, kind of be the you know the emcee for the event, the person who handles everything. Let the band worry about the music. I'll handle

00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:56.580 michael khoury: Kind of officiating everything from there. So that just started to pay off. I was blessed enough to hook up with a couple of multi ops DJ companies in Buffalo to that started doing gigs on my own. So between

00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:07.680 michael khoury: You know music between, you know, playing live music between, you know, the companies and then between what I'm bringing in just on my own. It just started to snowball

00:20:08.040 --> 00:20:14.460 michael khoury: So my goal is, of course, in the near future, you know, just slowly. It's building into something that's going to be full time where I can

00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:27.210 michael khoury: You know, let go of the full time job. Eventually, but I'm my thought is, I want to let go of that full time career with benefits and everything when it becomes absolutely ridiculous and makes no sense for me to be working there anymore.

00:20:27.750 --> 00:20:35.160 michael khoury: Because I just want to do things smart and the right way, but I'm just going as hard as I can on every opportunity I can musically.

00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:37.410 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, I know that part is obvious.

00:20:37.470 --> 00:20:38.610 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That part is really obvious.

00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:46.560 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And then so right now, you're still currently working like it's all like, no, that's absolutely smartest thing to do. I mean, you know, I've opened

00:20:47.070 --> 00:20:55.980 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I don't know about been like five or six businesses, you know, since since moving to New York City. Some of them I don't have any more. Some of them I still do you know

00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:57.540 But the whole

00:20:58.740 --> 00:20:59.730 michael khoury: Mostly in the restaurant.

00:20:59.970 --> 00:21:02.490 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Was it yeah it's it. There's been some some retail

00:21:03.570 --> 00:21:11.700 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Shops as well you know where there's no service, we're just, we're just selling product, but yeah. Most of it's been in the food and beverage industry and

00:21:12.510 --> 00:21:20.040 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: At the same thing. Like, I've had a steady job with one company through out and and gotten to the point where I can

00:21:20.580 --> 00:21:27.420 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I can, you know, create my own schedule, there is you know I handle my my certain responsibilities and like General Manager for the company.

00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:37.440 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But it allows me these offshoots. And I think that's a fascinating way to do it. You know, because you always have to have something to fall back on one of my early mentors said he's been on the show recently to

00:21:37.740 --> 00:21:49.560 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: He said, it's better to own 20% of five things than 100% of one and this guy gave me so much great advice. Over the years I worked for him like, you know, I was like the age, you were when you and I, you know, got together. I

00:21:50.130 --> 00:22:00.090 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Worked for him as a as a team and then like my 20 like I might have been 20 or 21 when I when I moved to Buffalo and and stop working for him and

00:22:01.170 --> 00:22:07.320 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, he said so many great things to me. And so that's stuck, you know, but I didn't forget that one.

00:22:07.650 --> 00:22:12.780 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And that really became the foundation of everything I did and you know like Gary vendor chokes always talking about like

00:22:13.080 --> 00:22:24.060 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You're at might become your 20 and flip. So you always have to like what the whack a mole. I always think of that. You know that old arcade game where the things popping up and you just sit. You're like, oh, now, now I'm hammering this one.

00:22:24.360 --> 00:22:26.970 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, don't worry about those, like, oh, that now it's this one and

00:22:27.060 --> 00:22:32.010 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And that's a, that's a great way to approach. And I'd like you, your emphasis on the realistic.

00:22:32.580 --> 00:22:41.040 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Application of all this, because you see a lot of people that are like they get that information. And I think it's going to be just like overnight. I'm going to be like sitting on the beach.

00:22:41.340 --> 00:22:50.910 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, in the Bahamas and running my business like not really available, but you're also somebody who just like seems to want to work and like go after it and

00:22:51.210 --> 00:23:03.660 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, it's amazing to me that you're doing all this with music while still you know involved in another industry, but the two could merge it could really like it could really turn into something

00:23:04.860 --> 00:23:18.090 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, rather rather fascinating. Um, are you familiar. I had another friend of mine who's also a DJ here in New York, come on the show, not less than a year ago. He's hooked up with, I think it was called the not

00:23:18.630 --> 00:23:32.340 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yes. And, and they have like a sister company now they kind of merged. It was like two things. And he said, his once he got on there is this is just blew up. Obviously, same thing. He just his whole thing was about providing value. He just really wanted to

00:23:32.760 --> 00:23:44.610 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: To do his best in and he's done a great job with that is reviews are stellar but I was just curious when you were saying they were talking about hooking up with like certain certain groups in Buffalo you utilize that as a given you some success.

00:23:44.700 --> 00:23:48.000 michael khoury: I'm actually studying exactly what I want to put on there and

00:23:49.020 --> 00:23:53.550 michael khoury: Just to be totally candid I'm modeling other successful people that I know around the country.

00:23:54.090 --> 00:24:01.650 michael khoury: You know, to build my you know wedding wire and they're not their way my website. They're way too. So I'm still in the very early stages, but I'm

00:24:02.070 --> 00:24:14.070 michael khoury: More or less deciding exactly what I want them getting the vision for how I want to present that digitally to the customer side I'm posting videos, having fun and photo shoots. I want it to be, you know, just a very thorough

00:24:14.490 --> 00:24:18.480 michael khoury: Yeah. A good snapshot of what I can provide no but

00:24:18.570 --> 00:24:25.770 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Literally it the fascinating part to me to at now that you know so I still have a music studio here as well.

00:24:26.010 --> 00:24:34.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I've continued to kick stuff out. I went like eventually went more this cell production route, like the theme song is mine. I started to just write and do my own mainly instrumental music

00:24:34.950 --> 00:24:48.690 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Lot of work as a just a drummer for like just indie singer songwriters there's just like tons of that, but they'll you know they have a little funding. They're kind of doing it themselves been on a couple labeled releases, but most of us just been like indie stuff.

00:24:49.770 --> 00:24:54.690 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So still always kept that in, you know, and continue to do that and still practice all the time.

00:24:55.110 --> 00:25:02.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Um, but getting involved into this show, especially and the whole multimedia thing. Yeah. And then I really, I was like,

00:25:02.700 --> 00:25:09.540 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Oh, this is what I wanted all along. I you know I was just playing music but like what I really wanted like once I started getting into video work.

00:25:10.080 --> 00:25:15.630 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And that I was just like, this is amazing because I can still hold the music in like we write all the music for this stuff.

00:25:16.020 --> 00:25:25.050 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But like video is so amazing to me it just opened up this Pandora's box and then you get to really be the curator of like what you were talking about like

00:25:25.710 --> 00:25:29.640 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: What you want your digital stamp to be and and the

00:25:30.090 --> 00:25:39.750 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The reach. It's just like exponential. It's like, it's never been before. And that has got me so excited. It sounds like the same for you. Is that true, do you feel that way like

00:25:40.050 --> 00:25:47.790 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Incorporating the visuals audio that networking like I'll say, I love the network. It's amazing. You know, I just love to talk. That's why I'm on

00:25:49.830 --> 00:25:58.080 michael khoury: Your you're amazing at first. With that intro when I heard that feed. I said, that's got to be right. Then in there that's jazzy look funky swing.

00:25:58.140 --> 00:26:04.710 michael khoury: Yeah, your signature on it but 100% and I'm I'm learning that to even though it seems like total common sense.

00:26:05.130 --> 00:26:05.550 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But it's

00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:16.080 michael khoury: But it's when you have that video in that multimedia everything. Today's that, you know, so it's you're able to control exactly what you want everybody to see and paint yourself.

00:26:17.100 --> 00:26:26.400 michael khoury: And bring other people on provide value to them, share and open up any opportunity you want in a multimedia world like that. So I'm so proud to see you, you know,

00:26:26.430 --> 00:26:29.700 michael khoury: Doing this and know your own show and studio. It's

00:26:30.120 --> 00:26:32.460 michael khoury: It's amazing. And the best part is, you're the director of the train.

00:26:32.550 --> 00:26:33.660 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, yeah, yeah.

00:26:33.750 --> 00:26:34.470 michael khoury: Wants to go

00:26:35.100 --> 00:26:46.470 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Well, it's like I feel like you've got that to like your dad putting on these mega shows and stuff like that and you were part of that as well. And it seems like you've done the same thing where like when you would you are the

00:26:47.100 --> 00:26:53.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You are the MC you're you're running the whole you know kind of the whole back end thing for this person's wedding for their super special day.

00:26:54.300 --> 00:27:06.750 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know that you were like that you become like the head producer and I didn't realize at the time, especially like when I was in school. But that's, I really love that. That's why I mean that's why you open a business, you know, the just to be

00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:13.110 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I don't know. I get a lot of satisfaction out of that. And that's it. That's like the direction, it seems like you're taking now to

00:27:13.650 --> 00:27:29.970 michael khoury: For sure. It's almost and I say this to myself in this arena in the music industry in live events. It's like, I want the ball when the game is on the line, because, yeah, I like to solve problems. I like to figure it out. And I like to deliver for the people, you know, just like you.

00:27:30.600 --> 00:27:40.770 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So you you've said a couple things. You've alluded to it and your dad and I have discussed briefly but he's he's been doing jujitsu for the last few years at least. Correct.

00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Has taken have you taken the dive yet having gone in.

00:27:44.100 --> 00:27:47.760 michael khoury: I started when I was maybe 14 or 15 I did it a little

00:27:47.790 --> 00:27:49.140 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Oh really, back then.

00:27:49.500 --> 00:27:54.810 michael khoury: Back then, but I didn't stick with it. I just wanted to stay with music like of course he was able to do both.

00:27:55.230 --> 00:28:10.170 michael khoury: But you know, I was in school and I was just like, no, I me and Alex, I just want to play music with my brother and you know tour with that and try and do as best as I can in school like during the week, but he stuck with it and he's on his third black belt. Now he has a whole wall here.

00:28:10.350 --> 00:28:12.030 michael khoury: Really swords and

00:28:12.210 --> 00:28:15.660 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: belts in each. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing.

00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:23.730 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was all about dynamic problem solving. And that's I got hooked in we'd have to take another break we can pick it up when we get back. I started five years ago.

00:28:24.030 --> 00:28:34.590 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I just, he said some ice. I put a post up or something and he chimed in and it was about jujitsu and this whole a conversation and sued and it's like it literally like you're, you gotta, you gotta do it.

00:28:35.310 --> 00:28:35.850 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: As soon as

00:28:35.910 --> 00:28:38.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: As soon as schools open back up, you gotta, you gotta get in there.

00:28:38.670 --> 00:28:40.590 michael khoury: I want to hear about your journey with the martial arts.

00:28:40.620 --> 00:28:44.250 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, for sure. Right. So we'll take a break we'll pick up with them, we come back everybody. Hang tight.

00:31:11.010 --> 00:31:24.060 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Welcome back everybody. Happy Friday. Again, you're listening to the entrepreneurial while I'm your host, Jeremiah, Fox. Today we have zoom to Buffalo, New York, where I used to live. I went to grad school they're studying music and taught music and today it is an absolute pleasure.

00:31:24.360 --> 00:31:32.490 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: To have one of my former students Michael Corey on the show, who is now professional musician himself like just great to see that connection.

00:31:32.790 --> 00:31:39.390 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: We were talking about Michaels history studying business growing up in a musical family professional music father and

00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:47.100 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Trying to few that all those things together. But one thing I I he's mentioned a few times in the show and his father and I spoke about briefly.

00:31:47.370 --> 00:32:05.490 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Is the dynamic problem solving, you get to practice on a regular basis in Brazilian jujitsu which is father has done for a while, and I've been at for five years and Michael's homework assignment to this show. This is your practice assignment I need 17 pedals and 17 arm bars.

00:32:09.420 --> 00:32:17.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, so I school opened up a few doors down from my restaurant right and we opened it five years ago they open like literally the same time.

00:32:18.810 --> 00:32:25.110 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Local family lives in the neighborhood where we live, everybody you know it's Brooklyn's big city, but we're in like this tiny little village.

00:32:25.380 --> 00:32:30.540 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, it's like Easter are, it's got to Main Street all the businesses are right there, completely residential

00:32:31.260 --> 00:32:37.410 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: All surrounding it, but the train runs right through it and you hop on and like a stations later you're in lower Manhattan, and voila.

00:32:37.800 --> 00:32:45.090 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But like even there's a big hill at the top and you can't even see the city from where we're at. So we're like in this little incubated by which is beautiful.

00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:54.630 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And almost all the businesses are locally owned, there's no there's like a CVS and there was like huge protests against it or not a CVS or

00:32:54.660 --> 00:33:01.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Walgreens, like all these old ladies were sitting in the parking lot with like picket signs and I was like, wow, this is great old school and neighborhood.

00:33:02.310 --> 00:33:10.800 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Um, so, you know, it's a lot of small businesses and and locally owned businesses. So this local couple, you know, our kids went to school together, but I didn't really know them that well.

00:33:11.460 --> 00:33:18.240 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: They opened a few doors down. And so it was just like it was class every day. So I just always had a bag packed with a game, ready to go.

00:33:18.510 --> 00:33:28.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And it just like took over my my brain. And a lot of it had to do. I mean, I love to exercise always been really athletic and love to move my body.

00:33:28.650 --> 00:33:43.950 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Um, so that you know I was already doing that, that, but it was great to like get another practice going. But when I realized like that. It was this this practice and just like dynamic problem solving and like the food industry offers you many of those

00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Albums a day. I mean, just, just like you just

00:33:46.230 --> 00:33:47.520 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Never know where it's coming from.

00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:57.360 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was it was crucial for me to get in there and do that. And again, the chaos of running an internationally performing band is like it just

00:33:57.900 --> 00:34:07.590 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It's stressful. It's crazy. When you get to when you get to vent, but also sharpen the sword. You said he's got swords is the big man. All these martial artists.

00:34:07.860 --> 00:34:17.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: My instructor dudes like making knives, all the time, he's just sitting back there wielding knives and like one one week he was out because he caught himself with this sword. It's just like

00:34:18.750 --> 00:34:19.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Okay.

00:34:21.330 --> 00:34:23.640 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I was like, I'm listening to the unarmed combat.

00:34:24.690 --> 00:34:30.810 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But yeah, it's pretty crazy. But I just cannot sing the praises of it enough.

00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:38.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Especially right now you know with with all the crunches that have been put on businesses, especially small businesses.

00:34:38.940 --> 00:34:39.510 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And

00:34:39.690 --> 00:34:48.780 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I mean performance. Forget about it. I mean, who who's gotten it worse. It's like jujitsu and performance because you can't have crowded rooms and you can't have contact

00:34:49.770 --> 00:34:52.200 michael khoury: So have you been practicing at home like yeah

00:34:52.980 --> 00:34:57.540 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So we, you know, my wife and my daughters both trained as well. So for like the first month

00:34:57.930 --> 00:35:04.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was just us and then we slowly started to get into, like, like once you know Brooklyn was off the chain like Sony, you know,

00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:16.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Mass, you know, mass amounts of people died, and it was just spreading like wildfire here, but once things started to like Peter down and everybody kind of got tested and everything were like we all had it, you know, it was like everybody had it.

00:35:16.590 --> 00:35:17.100 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Um,

00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:25.050 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: We started to get together in small groups and we've maintained that so there's like four little pods from the school that that continue to train and just, you know,

00:35:25.650 --> 00:35:34.740 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Just keep the sword sharp. I'm not looking to get better. Right now I'm looking to maintain so that when things open back up. At least I'm not like playing catch up, you know, and the same with business like the restaurant here.

00:35:35.100 --> 00:35:46.410 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, we were forced to delivery only for three and a half months then it was outdoor seating only for another three months or so and then just recently they allowed 25%

00:35:46.830 --> 00:35:54.540 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Indoor dining, which my small little place equates to 12 people at a time, which is not. It's not easy to run a restaurant that way.

00:35:55.470 --> 00:36:02.070 michael khoury: It's a juggling act now just what's going to change today adapting and I'm sure you've seen that. Well, I've definitely seen it a lot.

00:36:02.340 --> 00:36:11.670 michael khoury: Of course, in like the events industry where it's like you never know what's going to change your on your toes. Yeah, it's this role today. It's that role and you just were rolling with the punches. Yeah.

00:36:12.060 --> 00:36:23.220 michael khoury: You know, coming back to it, it's martial arts is really to discipline and it, it builds on itself and and components. So they're really interested to get back into it, especially just for the

00:36:24.390 --> 00:36:26.220 michael khoury: You know, the physical exercise.

00:36:26.250 --> 00:36:36.180 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, the physical is great. You love that. But the mental like and you know when you talk about like added value. It's like, of course, I'm going to go train martial arts, like most people see it as a hook. It's like okay I get to

00:36:36.540 --> 00:36:46.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I get to vent, I get the physical, you know, I mean, ran Dory is the best thing ever. If I like if I don't get ran Dory almost daily. I'm like, Something's not right. You know, you're really feel like outside of myself.

00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.530 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But when you walk away with that message, you know, especially if it's a place like they emphasize

00:36:52.920 --> 00:37:00.510 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The message at the school that I try it out. It's like, that's always coming, no matter what, you know, you're going to get the message and it might not think in today.

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.430 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But like you'll carry it with you and you hear it enough. It's like, all right, all right.

00:37:05.850 --> 00:37:14.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And the other thing I always think about too is just like how we used to improvise. You know, like playing music. I mean, I just brutal absolutely love free improv.

00:37:14.970 --> 00:37:20.220 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Because you just never knew what was going to happen. But the goal was always just to make it

00:37:20.580 --> 00:37:27.030 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know the best was to like walk into a gig with guys. I'd never played with before and just we're going to like improvise.

00:37:27.330 --> 00:37:32.700 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And it's the show. There are people watching. And at the end if people come up and say like, Oh, it was really great. How long have you guys been playing together. And I'm like,

00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:39.810 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, it just, it doesn't have to be mind blowing, you know, not like, oh my god, that was the best thing ever. You know, just to be like

00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:52.170 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You pulled it off. You know, like, not like I had you fooled. But like I told you, like we just literally entered the chaos. And so between the two between martial arts and just really like emphasizing a lot on

00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:55.950 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: improvisational music or, like I was saying earlier,

00:37:56.640 --> 00:38:04.410 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Dealing with a bunch of like singer songwriters doing their own independent music a lot of them have never had a drummer before you know like that or they didn't have a recording

00:38:04.650 --> 00:38:09.570 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And they would just say, like, okay, this is my song helped me what what needs to go under it and then

00:38:09.870 --> 00:38:19.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: you negotiate, you know, in martial arts is much the same way, especially when you're training Jiu Jitsu it's like it's not always about winning, you're negotiating with somebody else's body.

00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:31.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Notice, like it's a constant negotiation, like it's going to be this is going to be that. And there's awareness that that awareness, really. It's like the big guys when you're playing like we do now.

00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:37.290 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, it's, it's just increasing that awareness. And that's been the lesson I think recently.

00:38:37.980 --> 00:38:44.940 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It's like you just got to have the big eyes all the time because you've got the government coming in saying certain things you have people's fear or lack of

00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:53.580 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Negotiating both like here at the restaurant. There's some people are like, I don't think I should have to wear a mask at all. I should be able to eat inside anytime. And I have to say, well,

00:38:54.600 --> 00:38:59.730 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I'm not paying a $10,000 fine. So you're gonna have to you have to take it outside right now or you know whatever

00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:10.770 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Towards and then all the, all the way to the other end. People are like calling me still. I like this is the first time I've even gotten take out in six months, and they're they're concerned, you know, and negotiating

00:39:12.630 --> 00:39:14.190 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like juggling fire, man.

00:39:14.970 --> 00:39:21.750 michael khoury: Yeah. And the same with music when you're with new musicians or a new just even look at like a corporate and a new work team. Yeah.

00:39:22.950 --> 00:39:30.540 michael khoury: What everybody talks about the most is just sit back and listen, you can figure out what people's strengths are, you know, where they would

00:39:31.110 --> 00:39:47.010 michael khoury: Collaborate best as a team and then figure out, okay, where do I fit in all this. How can I compliment these musicians. These teammates, how can we, you know, get this job done together. And that's the same with engaging photographer, you know, the wedding venue, the

00:39:48.180 --> 00:39:57.450 michael khoury: The bride and the groom everybody. So it's, that's a neat way you put it down negotiating with someone else's body like when you're, you know, doing moves in

00:39:59.190 --> 00:40:01.410 michael khoury: Doing martial arts. It's, it's neat.

00:40:01.740 --> 00:40:09.360 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That will you said it, it's listening. You know, you really nailed it like as a musician. That's what you have right you have your ears. You have your eyes, but sometimes you get in. Right. And you're like,

00:40:10.680 --> 00:40:19.200 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, looking, I get criticized. A lot of like you disappeared. You know, you start biting your lip and everything and

00:40:20.490 --> 00:40:22.380 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: We all know that guy, um,

00:40:22.500 --> 00:40:26.070 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But it becomes to your ears and not the really like

00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:32.880 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Got the point correct when you were talking about like in a company like you have to listen and negotiate, but we were always stressed.

00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:40.380 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: To think of jujitsu as a conversation and and nobody wants to train with the guy that's just always like

00:40:40.980 --> 00:40:49.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I'm speaking I'm speaking I'm speaking I'm speaking like even one of the most humbling lessons is like to learn, even though you may be better.

00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:57.150 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: More advanced bigger, stronger whatever to like give the person some opportunities, you know, and just

00:40:57.600 --> 00:41:06.270 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The one of my favorite ones is like think something different. See something new, like that was sent to us often while we were training and the new like our instructor was standing over us.

00:41:06.630 --> 00:41:17.010 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That applies to absolutely everything, especially in those stressful situations if you just always do. You know, like, going back to the quote that you put up as about it, you know.

00:41:17.550 --> 00:41:25.650 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Seeing something different, but then creating that habit you know like you are product of your habit. So if you're always just doing the same thing and not getting like that great result.

00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:35.850 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You don't switch your habit up, you know, you're, you're always going to get the same thing, but you need that motivation to like push yourself to find that new habit.

00:41:36.600 --> 00:41:41.160 michael khoury: 100% and something to my lead new outlook that I've been looking at, especially in music is

00:41:42.450 --> 00:41:51.750 michael khoury: When it comes to teaching or progressing as a musician in the next 10 years if we look at it that way. I don't want to repeat one year of experience and growing and learning.

00:41:51.810 --> 00:42:03.360 michael khoury: And limbs. I want every single year, every single gig to just suck out of it. Everything I can and then use it on the next gig and improve constantly and that's just that's the goal because so many people

00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:16.260 michael khoury: You know, they said, oh, I have all this experience, but if you break it down that that's just my greatest fear is just to say like, Oh, I have 10 years of experience, but it's heated and it's like, no, you need to be growing or if you're not growing you're dying.

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.140 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, no, there's, there's no I think that this year, in particular as taught everybody

00:42:22.590 --> 00:42:37.920 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like you can never be too comfortable because you know where I'm at. I mean, I knew people that had like high up positions in big companies and they were comfortable. They were like, cool. I'm good. And then something like this. You're laid off and you you like you have no control.

00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:38.790 michael khoury: Anymore.

00:42:38.850 --> 00:42:47.070 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, you're just you're at the mercy of somebody else so i i like staying on the more edgy side, one of the reasons why I chose to go in business for myself, because it's like

00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:54.660 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: At least you know that that the shits coming down. Right. It's like when you work for a big company, you don't get to hear all the backroom talks and they're like,

00:42:54.900 --> 00:43:03.390 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Oh yeah, he's really great, but if anything happened he would be gone and you don't know that we're like, at least me, I get the problems every day. Now I can anticipate him. I'm like,

00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:16.020 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: This is not going to be good and sure enough they come in. It's not good, but at least I know and it gives me a little preparation to, like, how am I going to respond do have enough money to respond. You know what, like a better pay

00:43:17.070 --> 00:43:19.770 michael khoury: Exact sorry things on the up for you now again after the dip.

00:43:20.430 --> 00:43:35.520 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Um, it's, it's become more reliable like the summer was good for us because we were able to see it outdoors. At least they only open indoor dining here like three weeks ago and it hasn't been a major boost. Most people still just want to sit outside

00:43:36.720 --> 00:43:39.420 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: But we got to think that nothing's normal anymore.

00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:50.790 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And I just like all those all those years of data. I just like literally close the book and pushes that because I used to look at it, I got it 2018 I go, what do we do on this day 2017. What was this month, like, you know,

00:43:51.180 --> 00:44:03.330 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I'm just like, set it aside because those expectations will will kill you. We have definitely found some success. You know, we found. We found some profitability. We learned a lot of really great lessons.

00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.370 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I think the winter is going to pose a number of new problems.

00:44:08.670 --> 00:44:19.380 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And bring back some old ones. So we just have to see, you know, and just try to be resilient. But, uh, I'm getting I'm up for it is better than sitting home all the time that's not for me. I can't do that, I lose my mind.

00:44:20.160 --> 00:44:25.650 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So, you know, just trying to stay at it. Alright, we're going to take one more break. I want to come back and I want to talk about

00:44:26.520 --> 00:44:37.470 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: What what the scene is like in Buffalo, as far as all this goes and then like your what your goals are for the future and like it seems to me, scalability is built into what you want to do.

00:44:37.890 --> 00:44:47.010 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You have an outright so that but you you kind of alluded to it and like what your plans are with that. Alright, so hang tight. Everybody come back and get that good juice, my man. Michael will be right back.

00:44:50.310 --> 00:44:51.150 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: talk radio

00:47:09.720 --> 00:47:17.160 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Welcome back folks if you're just tuning in, we have zoom to Buffalo, New York, an area where I spent a few years of my life.

00:47:17.490 --> 00:47:28.440 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Studying music teaching music and it is such a pleasure to have one, one of my former students who was a teen at the time Michael Corey is now grown man successful business entrepreneur.

00:47:30.510 --> 00:47:41.640 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Cutting cutting his own deals really work in the room. And we talked about a number of things on the show today. His background and music, musical family studying business at the University of Buffalo as well.

00:47:41.940 --> 00:47:47.520 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Working in the network marketing industry and applying that to his own musical business. So I'd love to hear about

00:47:47.910 --> 00:47:55.650 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Now, like what is the scene like in terms of especially nightlife and buffalo, because that's a city and they, you know, got

00:47:56.070 --> 00:48:08.610 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: It was a good scene for me when I was there. It seems like it's only grown since then, what's the, what's the scene like in terms of venues, you know, restaurants, going out and then like, what do we do with that information going forward.

00:48:09.240 --> 00:48:18.510 michael khoury: Definitely. I mean, of course, since the beginning of the pandemic, you know, from March till about goodness with July, you know, there was nothing.

00:48:19.020 --> 00:48:32.730 michael khoury: Absolutely nothing. And then in July began with some weddings, where, you know, it was very, very restricted and, you know, obviously, the numbers were cut down a lot. So that kind of got the ball rolling again with some weddings.

00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:48.420 michael khoury: But mostly from there. It started to transition, things started pivot into being outdoors tent weddings, like everything I've been doing, you know, today I'm going tomorrow I'm going, everything is just pop up tent. I'm sure buffalo rental is just making an app.

00:48:50.730 --> 00:48:58.200 michael khoury: But on you know people are being as safe as they kind of at the events. Also, while just being in the comfort of, you know, a family members yard.

00:48:58.590 --> 00:49:05.910 michael khoury: Or you know their own backyard, where they just kind of have a little bit of freedom to not be on edge. While still but yet, people are wearing masks.

00:49:06.930 --> 00:49:14.880 michael khoury: You know, standing whenever they stand up from the table. They have to have a mask on going to the bar, whether it's at a venue, or even at like in a tent with an optimum.

00:49:16.050 --> 00:49:22.230 michael khoury: Bar. They're still wearing masks. So things are just pivoting and a lot of the events are becoming hybrids, where

00:49:23.070 --> 00:49:29.700 michael khoury: Maybe half indoor half outdoor so now I'm using, you know, pulling my resources and having to go wireless with some things and

00:49:30.630 --> 00:49:38.190 michael khoury: It's just, you know, been adapting a lot for sure. As far as like the buffalo night scene. I'm not too much into it anymore.

00:49:38.790 --> 00:49:48.390 michael khoury: As far as like clubs in and you know going out, but it's what I've seen in the Chippewa district Delaware Avenue, things have been backup on the you know the up and up.

00:49:48.780 --> 00:49:55.380 michael khoury: The rooftop buyers have still had, you know, people everybody's sitting by have a DJ. You know, just crank and music. People will be having fun, but

00:49:56.430 --> 00:50:01.170 michael khoury: People are just a little bit more relaxed and I can tell if people are genuinely happy to be out. Yeah.

00:50:01.530 --> 00:50:13.440 michael khoury: So, and one thing I've been keeping in mind, especially at. What is this, a lot of these people haven't really been out for any special occasion, you know, since this thing happens. So I always try to take that into consideration to be, you know, courteous to that too.

00:50:14.250 --> 00:50:20.730 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Well, you mentioned earlier, you know, from the production level, you're like, I gotta listen to photographer and this guy and that guy but like also

00:50:22.080 --> 00:50:30.780 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Who's paying you and like really honoring their, you know, all their, their needs and desires.

00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:39.180 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Are they are they, allowing people inside at venues like if it's just like a like a venue and not a restaurant.

00:50:40.140 --> 00:50:43.140 michael khoury: Well venues are a little as of right now is 15 people

00:50:43.500 --> 00:50:43.830 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: So,

00:50:44.040 --> 00:51:00.870 michael khoury: People had to absolutely scale their guest list down from like 350 so in a lot of the venues that are like similarly hybrid where they can put maybe 20 people inside another 2030 people right outside under a tent with some Portable heaters.

00:51:01.020 --> 00:51:01.350 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, the

00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:12.390 michael khoury: Ones that are doing the best because they're, they're not operating in the gray area. Yeah, and putting people, you know, in a bad spot or the health department, you know, becoming a target. So

00:51:12.600 --> 00:51:14.310 michael khoury: Everybody's in a little bit, you know,

00:51:14.340 --> 00:51:16.470 michael khoury: On edge with it as far as

00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.890 michael khoury: You know those those venues goal. But yeah, it's been interesting. It's been a really interesting here.

00:51:23.190 --> 00:51:28.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Sure. I mean, I love that you're smiling, though, you're like every time you said that we had to pivot and you were like, like it was fun.

00:51:30.060 --> 00:51:38.100 michael khoury: I love the challenge and want to in groom call me and they're, you know, they're nervous and everything. I almost I see that as a genuine opportunity to just be like, look.

00:51:38.490 --> 00:51:42.750 michael khoury: I've seen enough of these where I know how I'm gonna go. I'm gonna do everything I can to help you.

00:51:43.230 --> 00:51:53.730 michael khoury: And make sure everybody's safe, but I'm still going to give you an amazing day and you're not going to have to worry about anything, you know, leave all the official announcing and the flow of the night to me.

00:51:54.300 --> 00:52:02.310 michael khoury: And it's still going to be a good time. It's not going to be a link party. You know, people have to, you know, people have to sit in their chairs. Sometimes I have to get them to interact from the chair.

00:52:02.670 --> 00:52:03.150 michael khoury: Because they have

00:52:03.240 --> 00:52:10.920 michael khoury: It up and dance so right, it's been such a challenge for me, allowing me to grow and in that I know that when things open up all that

00:52:11.670 --> 00:52:17.070 michael khoury: Momentum that I have from dealing with these problems is going to compound and it's just really going to help me to

00:52:17.610 --> 00:52:28.770 michael khoury: You know, stand out at that next level as opposed to just saying, hey, you know what, I'm going to take a break. I'm going to work my job for now wait for this thing to go over. It's like, no, I'm going to use every opportunity to grow and become all that I can.

00:52:29.220 --> 00:52:43.320 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: That's amazing. So great to hear you say that. So what what is, what is your, your hypothesis, your, your dreams, your goals are they when things open back up. What do you really, where do you want to take this

00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:53.040 michael khoury: My idea is within the very near future, like short range goal, get this to where I can go full time on my own just Michael Corey.

00:52:53.430 --> 00:53:01.800 michael khoury: You know, I can literally I am a business mentality where this is a full time job for me it's a full time income. Then from there.

00:53:02.610 --> 00:53:08.790 michael khoury: Long Range goal would be to own something like, you know, a big company to the as many DJ and service.

00:53:09.270 --> 00:53:13.470 michael khoury: You know, accurate, but first you know one step at a time. And like we talked about being realistic.

00:53:13.980 --> 00:53:30.960 michael khoury: Being positive and just working building on what works and where I see myself right now is just focusing on me because there's only so many things I can control and if I focus on me and just slowly build that brick by brick build the house up. It'll be a solid foundation so

00:53:30.990 --> 00:53:43.230 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Andy Do you see I assumed you would want that just like from talking to you that you'd want to have like DJ is under you. You're, you're cutting deals maybe still working some events but like really like pulling it all together. Do you see

00:53:44.130 --> 00:53:49.710 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: digital services being a part of, of that that long term plan.

00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:53.700 michael khoury: Do you mean like video conferencing grandma, grandpa into the ceremony.

00:53:53.910 --> 00:54:05.640 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Cool, yeah, whatever, like Howard would show up. There's, there's so many ways. I mean, it could be, you could be like giving DJ instruction, you know, I'm just trying to think of all the different ways you can utilize like real scalable scalable little, little, little

00:54:05.910 --> 00:54:07.770 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: The scalable aspects of

00:54:07.950 --> 00:54:18.420 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Of that business is that I mean because you're good at your, your heavily, you know, getting entrenched in media now. Like is there is there a thought on on roping that in and making that also a source of revenue.

00:54:18.810 --> 00:54:27.300 michael khoury: 100% absolutely something that I would use to to provide value is like to basically review with equipment. So for the DJ industry.

00:54:27.540 --> 00:54:28.800 michael khoury: Remember that equipment.

00:54:29.100 --> 00:54:40.320 michael khoury: For brides and grooms review the holistic approach of their entire day how things are going to go and just become like that kind of one stop shop for, you know, the wedding and event industry.

00:54:40.350 --> 00:54:40.860 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah.

00:54:41.250 --> 00:54:47.790 michael khoury: But you, like you said, using media is you know i i always kind of downplay it, because I just focused on the music. I'm like, I'm just

00:54:47.820 --> 00:54:48.450 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know, saying,

00:54:49.230 --> 00:54:49.740 michael khoury: Well, I want to

00:54:49.980 --> 00:54:58.260 michael khoury: Rock out and go do my job and then just relax after and then just in the last five years. I just had a pivot around my know there's so much that can happen.

00:54:58.950 --> 00:55:09.120 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah, same. You know, after all this time work, you know, focusing so much on the content, whether it was like an album or music first show or the food.

00:55:09.420 --> 00:55:17.040 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: You know cuz I got into food, beverage because I love it. I love to make like an amazing drink and amazing dish I want to share that I want everybody to be like, Oh, well, this is also be know

00:55:17.370 --> 00:55:22.380 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And then I realized is a certain point that you can make the most fascinating thing the world if you have no reach if you have no

00:55:23.670 --> 00:55:29.970 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Man, and then, you know, I first had didn't really know. I remember what like when I first got into social media like posts in the copy and it was like

00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:35.190 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Someone came to our wine store. And they're like, who does your photography and I was like, Oh, me and they were like, it sucks. And I was like,

00:55:37.680 --> 00:55:46.590 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: And it was like, All right, time to step this up, but I love, I love photography to and I didn't realize that until I started taking serious and say, Man, I really enjoy this. And so it was a hard lesson to learn, but then

00:55:46.860 --> 00:55:57.630 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: At a certain point, it was just like, this is all super fascinating. So we're gonna have to wrap it up. Where can people find out information about you or get in contact with you if they if they would so choose.

00:55:58.170 --> 00:56:07.260 michael khoury: Absolutely. As of right now, Instagram MC Corey 91 and I maybe I'll type it out because my last name is Lebanese. It's a little bit hard to spell.

00:56:07.710 --> 00:56:20.130 michael khoury: What MC KH. Oh, you are why and then 91 is my handle on Instagram and then Facebook is Mike Corey to and of course very soon I'll have my site up and running and what in wire and the knock and all that. That's

00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:21.420 michael khoury: Just for me personally.

00:56:22.020 --> 00:56:34.110 michael khoury: And keep, you know, of course, I keep all my relationships to and all the companies I work with, but just for me it's like we talked about like Gary Vee talks about Grant Cardone all the greats building that personal brand because at the end of the day you are all you can rely on

00:56:34.290 --> 00:56:35.400 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Yeah 100%

00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:39.990 michael khoury: But I yeah thank you so much for having me. See you.

00:56:40.410 --> 00:56:41.970 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I guess that this has been surreal.

00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.370 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Like we haven't spoken and just to see you like

00:56:44.430 --> 00:56:48.690 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Go from that and hear you say some of the things you're saying today like

00:56:49.740 --> 00:56:51.960 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: I can't tell you how awesome that is so

00:56:52.260 --> 00:57:01.350 michael khoury: You know your lessons. Still, I mean out to talk about us and and beginning I'll say it again, the grooves that we learn together for will forever just stay in my soul mate.

00:57:01.860 --> 00:57:08.070 michael khoury: They transfer to every gig. I do. I just always have that as a musician and a friend. Thank you so much for having me.

00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:08.850 michael khoury: I appreciate it.

00:57:09.060 --> 00:57:11.190 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: My pleasure. We'll catch back up soon. Okay.

00:57:11.550 --> 00:57:12.060 michael khoury: You got it.

00:57:12.450 --> 00:57:16.680 The Entrepreneurial Web Radio: Alright, everybody. Have a great weekend. We'll see you next Friday. Peace out.