Join us for the premiere of the newest show to join TalkRadio.NYC - Extra Innings.
This show will be dealing with family dynamics in raising children, parenting, and mental health issues. The stigma attached to the problems of anxiety depression, loneliness and suicide.
We will examine possible ways to deal and recognize these challenges while they’re happening and how to best address these issues.
Sam Liebowitz, introduces host Albert Dabah, a filmmaker and head of and founder of the video production company Simba productions, who recently released his feature film Extra Innings. Albert and Sam discuss the Extra Innings film and the production process of the film. Albert explains his perspective of playing the role of his father in the film, and the environment of the set while shooting his scenes. He discusses how the film itself is about family dynamics and that these dynamics can be seen in the dinner scenes in the film, where everyone in the family is talking, but no one is listening.
Albert and Sam discuss Albert’s siblings, and the similarities and differences between their portrayals in the film and in Albert’s life. Albert explains the stigma attached to mental health and suicide, and how this stigma is why he wanted to make this film, to go against the stigma. He explains how his sister’s suicide personally effected him, and how she supported him and his dreams in life. Albert discusses his brother as a person, and how he was able to connect to his brother through a mutual love of baseball. He also explains how he recently joined a support group, and how it's helpful for people who have lost loved ones to suicide.
Albert explains how he became motivated to choose a live podcast format to continue this topic after the release of Extra Innings. He explains how baseball grounded him throughout his life, and how like with other people sports were able to give him a sense of self. He goes on to explain the origins behind the title of the show and the movie, how he got the idea from the teacher of an acting seminar he attended, and that “extra innings” was Albert’s essence. To Albert, extra innings means that there is always hope, even when it is difficult, and that life goes on past the bottom of the 9th, that change is possible.
Albert explains the future of the show, and the different kinds of guests he would bring on, who all have different points of view of mental health, as well as sports and how sports affect people. How the podcast will not only discuss family dynamics and mental health, but also love. Albert suggests to people who are being affected emotionally and mentally by the current pandemic to reach out to family, and other loved ones through the technology we have, as well as to watch more films, read new books, and continue to find new things to do.
00:00:23.670 --> 00:00:33.900 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And welcome everybody to the premiere episode of extra innings. The newest show here on talk radio dot NYC.
00:00:34.350 --> 00:00:45.900 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And it is my extreme pleasure to welcome Albert Taba the, the host of this show, Albert is a video producer and director, a social worker and a life coach.
00:00:46.410 --> 00:00:57.720 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: He recently released his feature film with the same name extra innings about his experience living through the suicides have to have his siblings, while he was a young man.
00:00:58.140 --> 00:01:05.970 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: His film was supported by leading mental health organizations, including SAE and Na, am I
00:01:06.390 --> 00:01:17.970 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And he used it and his personal experiences to help spread awareness of mental health and illness, with the goal of reducing the stigma around it, as well as promoting mental wellness.
00:01:18.390 --> 00:01:29.730 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Albert runs his video production company company Simba productions, which he started 41 years ago after getting his MSW and practicing as a licensed therapist for six years.
00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:40.230 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: He is now combine both interests with his new film and is moving forward with his life coaching to continue his work in that field. He believes that discussing mental health.
00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:48.960 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: As a normal aspect of life will help reduce the stigma around mental illness and make us more understanding and compassionate.
00:01:50.220 --> 00:01:55.620 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Albert. Welcome to talk radio dot NYC and welcome to your new show extra innings.
00:01:56.220 --> 00:02:00.060 Albert Dabah: I, nice to be here, Sam. It's a real pleasure.
00:02:01.170 --> 00:02:03.870 Albert Dabah: To be here for the first show um
00:02:05.490 --> 00:02:18.060 Albert Dabah: I think that what you just talked about the what the show is about is exactly my purpose for being here tonight and talking with you. I think
00:02:19.260 --> 00:02:33.360 Albert Dabah: The film extra innings is a big part of my life. Probably the biggest part of anything I've ever done was a project I worked on for over 20 years and
00:02:33.390 --> 00:02:34.320 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: All that long. Huh.
00:02:34.470 --> 00:02:40.410 Albert Dabah: Yeah, yeah. I started working on it by writing an outline
00:02:41.460 --> 00:02:46.470 Albert Dabah: Hoping to get someone to write it for me. I never thought that I would actually write it
00:02:48.600 --> 00:02:59.250 Albert Dabah: But I did, I did hire someone that was referred to me for the first draft, but I ended up writing 12 drafts and the first draft that I wrote.
00:03:00.540 --> 00:03:07.440 Albert Dabah: It was you know about 180 pages which would have been like a three hour movie. But it was good to get a lot of the things out there.
00:03:08.340 --> 00:03:28.320 Albert Dabah: But it, you know, obviously, I thought I could, I think I could do this. I took a weekend workshop on screenwriting but as I kept writing it and you know rewriting it I would have other people look at it all kinds of people professional people friends and one professor told me if you have
00:03:29.790 --> 00:03:45.690 Albert Dabah: Many people telling you the same thing about one section of it or, you know, a couple of lines in the in the script. Take a look at that, because everyone has their own opinion and you'll hear, which I did complete opposite.
00:03:45.870 --> 00:03:47.400 Albert Dabah: Things about the same thing. So
00:03:47.850 --> 00:03:56.670 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Let me ask you, because I've recently viewed the film, how much of it is is true to life. How much of it of what's in the film actually happened.
00:03:58.290 --> 00:04:03.750 Albert Dabah: Well, it's a good question. It's a fair question. However, it's a difficult question for me to answer.
00:04:05.850 --> 00:04:06.840 Albert Dabah: In our first
00:04:07.950 --> 00:04:25.410 Albert Dabah: Showing that the film basically was to it was before coven and we showed it in this beautiful screen and we had cast and crew and family and friends there and I had a good friend of mine who was a host asked me that question and he's used to hosting and
00:04:26.760 --> 00:04:28.440 Albert Dabah: My response is basically
00:04:30.390 --> 00:04:41.280 Albert Dabah: Not everything in it is exactly as it happened, but through my eyes and my perspective and taking all those years of what I
00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:57.360 Albert Dabah: was writing about and putting into our movie you know you. The idea is to try to make grab people and make it dramatic as as dramatic as you can. So there are things that I'll give you an example.
00:04:58.530 --> 00:05:08.850 Albert Dabah: And this is a question that was asked many times afterwards. And I've screened the film about 18 times where I did talk backs Q and A's with panels and without panels and
00:05:10.110 --> 00:05:20.610 Albert Dabah: Someone said. So how did it feel when you offered that scholarship to to play for years of baseball at a college and
00:05:21.750 --> 00:05:32.250 Albert Dabah: Left like you are now that never happened, but it was the it was the best, it was, it was the most fun writing that scene because it was like that fantasy of mine.
00:05:32.640 --> 00:05:33.210 Albert Dabah: Yeah, and I did.
00:05:33.390 --> 00:05:36.750 Albert Dabah: I did play some college baseball, though, but I didn't get a scholarship
00:05:37.500 --> 00:05:47.460 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Okay, gotcha. I was always curious because I found it quite interesting that you end up kind of playing the character who's your father in the movie.
00:05:48.030 --> 00:05:49.650 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, and I'm wondering
00:05:51.210 --> 00:05:57.210 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: With did playing your father, give you a different perspective.
00:05:57.270 --> 00:05:59.400 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: On how he showed up in your life.
00:06:00.840 --> 00:06:04.230 Albert Dabah: Um, yes and no. To some degree,
00:06:05.340 --> 00:06:06.030 Albert Dabah: No at
00:06:07.080 --> 00:06:12.420 Albert Dabah: You know, I felt it was not that difficult to play my father.
00:06:13.980 --> 00:06:24.000 Albert Dabah: Except there was the one scene that I really, I knew it was going to be a tough scene for me and it's the scene where he tells his son, which was me.
00:06:25.320 --> 00:06:29.100 Albert Dabah: You know where he finds out that I'm going out with a woman that's not Jewish.
00:06:29.520 --> 00:06:30.960 Albert Dabah: And he says, I'll disown you
00:06:30.990 --> 00:06:31.650 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: If you
00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:40.350 Albert Dabah: You know, keep going out with her and I kept thinking, What does it feel like how did that feel to him to actually say that
00:06:41.550 --> 00:06:43.140 Albert Dabah: To Just own your own child.
00:06:44.460 --> 00:06:45.570 Albert Dabah: At that point,
00:06:47.340 --> 00:06:50.940 Albert Dabah: My brother was had committed suicide, but not my sister.
00:06:51.600 --> 00:07:09.330 Albert Dabah: But I'm Zilla and I broke down and one of the scenes. Actually we cut some of that, but I really broke down because I thought wow must have been hard for him and but you know I don't really know what it was like. It had to be difficult for him to say that
00:07:10.200 --> 00:07:14.970 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, so I mean just for our audience because I'm sure most people didn't, you know,
00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:29.100 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: They haven't seen the movie and we'll let people know how to see the movie later and and then we'll talk a little bit more about the podcast and stuff, but I just want to lay the groundwork because the movie is really sort of the foundation for what you want to do with this show. Correct.
00:07:29.670 --> 00:07:31.020 Albert Dabah: Exactly, yeah.
00:07:31.950 --> 00:07:47.040 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: So now, the movie is called extra innings, which is a baseball term. And it's a movie. I don't want to say it's about suicide because it's really not. It's more about
00:07:48.360 --> 00:08:02.370 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: The experiences of somebody whose family members committed suicide and and what what he kind of goes through growing up and how he deals with it, which is actually you I'm
00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:19.170 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: So I'm so the movie is is more than just, you know, something to to to that that focuses solely on the suicide issue. It really, it's really a movie about life and surviving, isn't it.
00:08:20.460 --> 00:08:21.480 Albert Dabah: Yeah, I think.
00:08:23.370 --> 00:08:32.040 Albert Dabah: I think it's a lot about family dynamics. And what happens in families and every family's has their issues.
00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.240 Albert Dabah: I remember very early on when I was studying psychology
00:08:37.590 --> 00:08:50.730 Albert Dabah: And I heard that one of the professors say that each kid who's born in a family is born. Let's say you know whatever it is a years later.
00:08:51.420 --> 00:09:02.700 Albert Dabah: A couple years or five years later, into the marriage of their parents. So as their parents change they raised their, their kids a different kid within the family structure.
00:09:03.420 --> 00:09:13.020 Albert Dabah: And you know, it's hard to find anyone that's exactly alike but they're really raised in a different time except in the same household and
00:09:14.130 --> 00:09:21.270 Albert Dabah: When I look at the film. There's three scenes where there's dinner. There's three dinner scenes and
00:09:23.790 --> 00:09:28.530 Albert Dabah: Peter Travers the Rolling Stone critic who interviewed me
00:09:29.670 --> 00:09:35.730 Albert Dabah: He made a statement, it's, it's about those family scenes that everybody's talking but nobody's listening.
00:09:36.210 --> 00:09:54.900 Albert Dabah: And when he said that it made me laugh because I thought a lot about Woody Allen film. So I thought was always a genius in showing these dinner scenes, making them funny, of course, and laughable because you kind of can relate to that. And I think that's
00:09:56.010 --> 00:09:58.680 Albert Dabah: A big part of the film of how
00:09:59.790 --> 00:10:16.740 Albert Dabah: Parents have their wishes for their kids, whether they're spoken or unspoken and some of them are more rigid and or less rigid than others, and in my particular family. They were very rigid rules to follow and
00:10:17.730 --> 00:10:20.970 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Which at that time. Wasn't that unusual. Was it
00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:27.960 Albert Dabah: No. No, it wasn't. And it wasn't unusual for not just the time, but the community. I was raised in
00:10:28.140 --> 00:10:38.280 Albert Dabah: My, you know, my father went to work. He, the idea was you go to work. Maybe you know after high school, maybe you go to college, I
00:10:38.310 --> 00:10:40.020 Albert Dabah: Mean, they didn't stress college
00:10:40.410 --> 00:10:44.010 Albert Dabah: It was to go into business and you got married and
00:10:45.420 --> 00:10:49.380 Albert Dabah: I think those ideas were pretty prevalent at the time for a lot of people
00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.660 Albert Dabah: And but I had this dream of playing baseball
00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.210 Albert Dabah: Which was totally outside of his realm.
00:10:57.870 --> 00:11:07.680 Albert Dabah: When we would watch when I would always put some sport. I love those sports. And I'll never forget watching a big Nick playoff game basketball.
00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:20.010 Albert Dabah: And I'm going crazy, you know, because it's like going to the ends of the game moving for the Knicks, and he's looks at me and goes, Albert why you're so excited to solve fixed. They want to lose to go to the seventh game they make more money that way.
00:11:20.820 --> 00:11:22.290 Albert Dabah: And I looked at him and I go,
00:11:23.340 --> 00:11:24.600 Albert Dabah: What are you talking about
00:11:26.520 --> 00:11:28.350 Albert Dabah: Is it all about money, you know,
00:11:29.250 --> 00:11:31.920 Albert Dabah: How many games they play. And I said, well, maybe he's right.
00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:35.010 Albert Dabah: You know, there's always a thing.
00:11:35.040 --> 00:11:46.920 Albert Dabah: Like when it's stress so much down your head, you think, well, maybe not, you know, like if I played a game and didn't do well and he gives me a look when I come home like
00:11:47.040 --> 00:11:50.340 Albert Dabah: I was maybe he's right. I shouldn't play baseball. So, you know, the
00:11:50.340 --> 00:11:52.530 Albert Dabah: Doubts for me were always there.
00:11:52.860 --> 00:11:54.300 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Right, right, right.
00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:55.620 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Um,
00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:05.370 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Was it difficult. I mean, you mentioned how like one scene playing your father. You kind of broke down and you felt how difficult it was, but I mean,
00:12:05.910 --> 00:12:18.630 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: To make a film like this, you're essentially reliving a lot of some very difficult part of your life of dealing with this the the suicides and the aftermath of the suicides in your family.
00:12:19.350 --> 00:12:28.710 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Was it very difficult even to just, just to make the film to deal with this on a day to day basis, or was it more cathartic did it more help you process around it.
00:12:29.640 --> 00:12:42.510 Albert Dabah: Well, good question. I think it was both. I mean, at times, it was really cathartic and I felt like I was swimming through it, meaning that it felt like I was really letting go and
00:12:42.990 --> 00:12:51.750 Albert Dabah: Understanding it and and then there are other times where I really felt difficult depend like on some particular scenes were very difficult
00:12:52.290 --> 00:13:00.780 Albert Dabah: On one of the first few days of shooting in the room that was my brother's room. My brother there. We just did a rehearsal before we shot it
00:13:01.350 --> 00:13:07.620 Albert Dabah: And it was so still in the room. The crew was still when we, when we said cut to the rehearsal.
00:13:08.040 --> 00:13:15.060 Albert Dabah: I left the scene left the room and walked outside two blocks away feeling so emotional and then I
00:13:15.390 --> 00:13:26.580 Albert Dabah: realized that it was only a block away where everything happened because I grew up only a few blocks of what we shot we shot it that basically was my grandmother's house which was then my aunt's house.
00:13:27.630 --> 00:13:32.250 Albert Dabah: Which was five blocks from my to a few blocks from my house. So it really hit me hard. Yeah.
00:13:33.210 --> 00:13:42.750 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Gotcha. Okay, it's time for us to take a commercial break when we come back I want to ask you a little bit more about your brother and your sister.
00:13:43.710 --> 00:13:57.540 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And some elements in the movie. And then we'll start talking about, you know, maybe a little later on about sort of this show what what your intention is for this show and and and what people can expect in the coming weeks. Okay. Albert
00:13:57.900 --> 00:13:58.530 Albert Dabah: Sounds good.
00:13:58.560 --> 00:14:09.870 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Okay. All right. Wonderful. So everyone please stay tuned. You're listening to the premiere of extra innings with Albert and we will be right back after this
00:16:21.900 --> 00:16:29.370 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to extra innings. The newest show here on talk radio dot NYC. This is the premier show
00:16:29.790 --> 00:16:44.310 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And Sam Leibowitz am interviewing Albert Taba the host of this show, just to kick things off and kind of get us started, and we're talking, we've been talking about the movie he created by the same title extra innings.
00:16:44.700 --> 00:16:45.330 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Which is
00:16:45.540 --> 00:16:46.170 About
00:16:47.190 --> 00:16:52.410 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: A young man, growing up in a household where there was suicide and being
00:16:53.760 --> 00:17:10.740 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: A family member who had to deal with the aftermath of that and who also loved baseball and love sports. So, Albert in the movie you're. You're the youngest and your brother and sister are both older than you. How much older.
00:17:11.790 --> 00:17:14.280 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Are your where your brother and sister from you.
00:17:14.940 --> 00:17:19.740 Albert Dabah: My brother was the oldest he was 12 years older than me and my sister was 10 years older than me.
00:17:20.130 --> 00:17:22.560 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And then they were really close together, but there was a big
00:17:22.560 --> 00:17:23.790 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Gap between you and them.
00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:31.170 Albert Dabah: Yes. And then I have another sister who's five years older than me who is, you know, portrayed in the film as well.
00:17:31.350 --> 00:17:45.270 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Right. Right now I'm having one family member commit suicide is hard enough, having to family members must really have been devastating at the time.
00:17:46.410 --> 00:17:47.670 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And in the movie.
00:17:48.900 --> 00:18:06.030 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: You were not only did you, your brother commit suicide. But in the movie, you go to California where your sister was in the movie and and you were kind of with her when she does it did that kind of follow reality. Will you like in the vicinity or near your sister when she committed
00:18:06.030 --> 00:18:06.660 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: To well
00:18:06.990 --> 00:18:17.520 Albert Dabah: Um, no, it didn't happen like that. But the thing was is that she talked to me about suicide, many times.
00:18:19.080 --> 00:18:28.020 Albert Dabah: She was staying at my apartment on the Upper West Side in New York for about a week. And one night I came home and I was
00:18:30.990 --> 00:18:35.610 Albert Dabah: I came home just for a few minutes to shower and go out on a date. I remember
00:18:37.410 --> 00:18:51.840 Albert Dabah: And in the one bedroom apartment. I had to she was there. My sister, and there were four notes like suicide notes. And I said to her, What's this and she said, I can't live anymore like this and I hate my life and
00:18:53.070 --> 00:19:07.770 Albert Dabah: And this was not the first time, but it was the first time, like I actually, you know, saw her with these notes and was horrible. And from then on. We spoke a lot about it and
00:19:08.730 --> 00:19:23.790 Albert Dabah: I she went back to California and I saw her, I really felt her life going downhill and I did whatever I could. And so it didn't, the way it was portrayed in the movie wasn't exactly the way it happened, but
00:19:25.020 --> 00:19:27.840 Albert Dabah: I was very in touch with her right before her death and
00:19:29.430 --> 00:19:32.640 Albert Dabah: You know, there's a scene in the movie where
00:19:35.910 --> 00:19:49.950 Albert Dabah: The character my character breaks down with his girlfriend and tells her, what happened and how that he had a brother, because I never talked about the fact. And that's part of the whole stigma.
00:19:50.610 --> 00:20:05.250 Albert Dabah: Of why I wanted to make this movie. And you know why I like and want to speak out about the stigma of mental illness and suicide and many people, you know,
00:20:06.810 --> 00:20:09.660 Albert Dabah: You know, feel it's a selfish act and
00:20:10.950 --> 00:20:27.540 Albert Dabah: From studying it being around it, talking to many psychiatrists therapists and doctors, you know, I don't think it's selfish at all. It's as one Dr. Dan Rotenberg from save which you mentioned them at the beginning of the program. They were our fiscal partner for the film.
00:20:30.390 --> 00:20:31.950 Albert Dabah: Dr. Dan Ryan Berg.
00:20:33.150 --> 00:20:44.040 Albert Dabah: Who wants to be a guest on this show at one time. We talked about it and he's an amazing man, he goes all around the world talking about prevention of suicide and
00:20:45.090 --> 00:20:47.220 Albert Dabah: lessening the stigma of mental illness.
00:20:48.300 --> 00:20:58.230 Albert Dabah: He agreed to be a fiscal partner was asked by many other places to do that other film films and documentaries and books.
00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:11.190 Albert Dabah: But him and his board never said yes, they didn't feel that the material was like, as he put it, kosher enough it was sometimes it was very romanticized sensationalized and
00:21:12.360 --> 00:21:22.320 Albert Dabah: But when he read the script, he loved it. He said he felt it was the most authentic things read about suicide in a dramatic fashion and spoke to his board. And they said, Yes, let's do it.
00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:31.770 Albert Dabah: Which helped us raise money because there. We could whatever money people donated was tax deductible, because we went through them.
00:21:32.490 --> 00:21:35.580 Albert Dabah: And he was tremendous inspiration for me because
00:21:36.180 --> 00:21:47.670 Albert Dabah: It it validated the work I put in. And then, you know, that was just the writing of it before we shot it and he he's they he's in Minnesota, but it comes to New York, often any came on set one day and
00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:55.470 Albert Dabah: Came to Brooklyn and I've met him at least about seven or eight times we became good friends over the years. Great.
00:21:55.980 --> 00:22:04.830 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Now, your brother from from movie he suffered depression for many years. So in some ways.
00:22:06.360 --> 00:22:19.680 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: It wasn't overly surprising that he decided to end his life. Your sister, at least the way it's portrayed in the movie. It seemed much more spur of the moment, or much
00:22:20.790 --> 00:22:38.640 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: You know more of a surprise, but from what you were just saying before about your actual sister. It sounded like it wasn't as much of a surprise. What were you surprised when your sister committed suicide or or did you kind of have a feeling that she might actually go through with it.
00:22:39.210 --> 00:22:39.780 I'm
00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:56.520 Albert Dabah: A week before she died. She wrote me she was in Florida when it happened, and she wrote me a letter every day and it was heartbreaking. And I just didn't know what to do. But she didn't say she was thinking committing suicide. She was just really depressed.
00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:59.010 Albert Dabah: She was wanted to start a dating.
00:22:59.010 --> 00:23:00.660 Albert Dabah: Business, which is referred to in the
00:23:00.660 --> 00:23:01.140 Albert Dabah: Film
00:23:01.650 --> 00:23:08.760 Albert Dabah: He wanted $10,000 from my father, and she wrote this little business plan, which I read it and it really seemed very
00:23:09.990 --> 00:23:14.070 Albert Dabah: It felt like a high school paper, you know, it wasn't really thought out. Well, and
00:23:14.610 --> 00:23:33.210 Albert Dabah: Um, and he he was being you know hesitant about giving her money and I think she just felt she had nothing left to give the and she always looked for love in her life. So, but when it actually happened. I was devastated.
00:23:34.230 --> 00:23:48.030 Albert Dabah: I'm sure she was, she was really like my best friend and she lived in California, from the time she was 18 till near the end of her life. So she left at 18 I was
00:23:48.900 --> 00:24:03.810 Albert Dabah: Eight years old, so I didn't really know her well but we used to write a lot and she saved my letters and sometimes we read them to me and I would write, you know, I used to like to read a lot. He said, I wrote books are like friends and
00:24:05.040 --> 00:24:11.970 Albert Dabah: And she was always supportive of me of like in the movie playing baseball go free dreams is what you always said
00:24:12.630 --> 00:24:21.210 Albert Dabah: And you know, I would say, well, Mom and Dad, don't listen to them. Just do what you know you know screw them is like what she would say, and
00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:34.440 Albert Dabah: She, she did what she wanted us to do. And I, you know, the, the whole idea of taking a life really hurt me and hurt me a lot. And my brother.
00:24:35.070 --> 00:24:47.790 Albert Dabah: It hurt, but he had been in a few mental hospitals and he hit it. But I learned a lot from my brother. I really did. I mean, I think what I learned was the whole game of baseball
00:24:49.110 --> 00:24:56.850 Albert Dabah: His, His. The only time he would talk to me about anything was like in the film was his passion for baseball and
00:24:58.080 --> 00:25:02.400 Albert Dabah: And he talked about the old baseball. Even before he was born like
00:25:02.610 --> 00:25:19.860 Albert Dabah: You know, he mentioned Babe Ruth and he never saw him play or stuff like that and he was into music and classical literature and I have a letter of his here that I found somehow and apparently he wanted to study art in Europe.
00:25:20.940 --> 00:25:22.170 Albert Dabah: Which he never did.
00:25:23.970 --> 00:25:31.560 Albert Dabah: And he was stuck. I mean, he was just stuck in his own mind. And it was very sad. He was, you know, he had a very high IQ.
00:25:32.970 --> 00:25:33.540 Albert Dabah: And
00:25:34.830 --> 00:25:39.630 Albert Dabah: He was a he was a sweet guy, but he couldn't get his life together and
00:25:41.460 --> 00:25:41.760 Albert Dabah: You know,
00:25:42.420 --> 00:25:43.290 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And I'm wondering
00:25:44.430 --> 00:25:49.050 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: You know at the time you were a kid and you of course you know
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:51.570 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Was just a normal kid, you did the
00:25:51.570 --> 00:26:05.040 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: best you could, but you've, you know, devoted your life to helping other people you know you were a therapist for a number of years now. You're a coach. Knowing what you know now.
00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:16.890 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Is there anything you would have done differently and maybe there's not, but but I'm just curious, with what you know now what would you say to somebody who maybe is in your position today.
00:26:19.350 --> 00:26:19.740 Albert Dabah: Well,
00:26:21.390 --> 00:26:31.950 Albert Dabah: I think I would basically say that, you know, listen to what someone is telling you listen very carefully.
00:26:33.690 --> 00:26:47.400 Albert Dabah: You know, as many therapists say when they're working with clients, they'll say, you know, if they think they might be suicidal. Do you have a plan. And that's one of the big things that comes up. I'm just to get a sense
00:26:49.560 --> 00:27:02.190 Albert Dabah: And I, but would I have done everything differently than I know now I can't think of anything. I would have done differently. I really, you know, I felt extremely guilty, particularly with my sister.
00:27:03.630 --> 00:27:09.570 Albert Dabah: Because we were so close. And she we saw the movie. On Golden Pond, which is
00:27:10.590 --> 00:27:10.830 Albert Dabah: Yeah.
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:12.000 Albert Dabah: Ernest Thompson.
00:27:12.030 --> 00:27:14.940 Albert Dabah: Wrote that who actually lived in the building that I lived in
00:27:15.420 --> 00:27:25.140 Albert Dabah: I spoke to him once about it. Yeah. And we saw together. And I'll never forget. I said, you see her name was Joan. I said, you see, Joan, like
00:27:26.550 --> 00:27:32.940 Albert Dabah: You know Jane Fonda and Henry, you know, unrefined the plays the father Jane Fonda is the daughter and they don't get along and
00:27:33.390 --> 00:27:49.410 Albert Dabah: And she's always looking for love from him. It says he loves her. He just can't show it the way she wants to. It's just like you and Dad, I mean, and she couldn't get it. She couldn't get it. She just, I mean, I tried so hard to help her. See that, but it was like this.
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:55.500 Albert Dabah: big barrier. She had, um, so I
00:27:56.820 --> 00:28:05.820 Albert Dabah: You know, it's like it's kind of like, I mean, as you know, guilt is a weird feeling to have because you know i i ended up joining a
00:28:06.390 --> 00:28:16.920 Albert Dabah: Support Group, but it was only within the past year, which I know I went to therapy for sure, but I know no one ever told me about a support group. I never even thought about it.
00:28:17.850 --> 00:28:28.380 Albert Dabah: But while I was showing the film around someone mentioned it to me and was very funny. It was, it was the Jewish board and it was run by a rabbi and an assistant
00:28:29.190 --> 00:28:34.620 Albert Dabah: And he said to me, Well, I don't want you to come to the meeting and just talk about your film and promote your film.
00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:40.980 Albert Dabah: And I said, No, I'm not coming there at all for that I lost my brother and sister to suicide and
00:28:41.580 --> 00:28:50.820 Albert Dabah: I heard this is a support group for people lost their loved ones to suicide. So I went to the group and I felt very comfortable. I felt like, Wow, this is
00:28:51.780 --> 00:29:02.490 Albert Dabah: Amazing of hearing, everyone's story, whether someone lost someone 20 years like it was 50 years ago that I lost my brother and I was hearing people feeling the same way I did about, you know,
00:29:02.940 --> 00:29:09.570 Albert Dabah: You know how they felt and and there was one person was asked. He said, how she deals with it. She says she she writes a
00:29:11.010 --> 00:29:25.350 Albert Dabah: She's writing a book about the daughter, she lost. And so I just said, I did a movie, you know, that's all I said. And then the question is, okay, what kind of movie, blah, blah, blah. And the way this
00:29:26.790 --> 00:29:32.550 Albert Dabah: session ended with the rabbi said to me when he said to me, well, how can we see the movie.
00:29:35.430 --> 00:29:44.340 Albert Dabah: So it was kind of funny how that went. But, um, I felt it was a really, I thought, that's a great thing to do for people who have
00:29:45.360 --> 00:29:53.670 Albert Dabah: Lost their loved ones who suicide to join a group, it really I think I went for six months and it really right before coven and it really
00:29:55.140 --> 00:29:58.350 Albert Dabah: You know, there was one, just real briefly, there was one guy who
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:12.300 Albert Dabah: He did. He was probably a man and his 40 verses 15 year old daughter to suicide and it broke my heart. I mean, every time someone would talk about who they lost it would really like break my heart. I would just feel like
00:30:12.690 --> 00:30:21.540 Albert Dabah: And I was always on the verge of tears, and he talked. One thing he said is I keep thinking about what I could have done differently and
00:30:22.290 --> 00:30:35.460 Albert Dabah: The suicide was fairly recent so I really felt that guilt that pain that he felt and realize that I know what that feels like not from the sense of having a daughter, but from a sibling, but
00:30:36.660 --> 00:30:40.800 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Sure. So why don't we hold it there because we got to take another break
00:30:40.890 --> 00:30:41.310 Albert Dabah: Sure.
00:30:41.550 --> 00:30:54.360 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And when we come back, let's talk a little bit more about the mental health aspect and and about the this show and what we can expect kind of moving forward and and
00:30:54.780 --> 00:31:01.110 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: You know, people often think, well, the topic of suicides kind of a pretty depressing topic. What, why are we doing something like this.
00:31:01.500 --> 00:31:12.090 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And let's really give people an idea of the, the idea of how this can really this this discussing this and talking about this can really serve people. Okay. Yep.
00:31:12.750 --> 00:31:25.950 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: All right. Wonderful. So everybody please stay tuned. You're listening to the premiere episode of extra innings with your host Albert Taba Sam Leibowitz interviewing Albert for his first show. So we will be right back after this
00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:30.240 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Well, welcome back. You're listening to extra innings with Albert Taba. This is the premiere episode here on talk radio dot NYC. And this is a show about mental health suicide baseball and all things.
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:33.420 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: In the world of Alberta, so
00:34:34.710 --> 00:34:47.400 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: I'm curious, you know, after making this movie, what motivated you to decide to create this live internet radio show and podcast around these topics.
00:34:49.020 --> 00:34:49.620 Albert Dabah: Well,
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:55.770 Albert Dabah: As you remember, we were at a networking meeting and
00:34:56.700 --> 00:35:07.920 Albert Dabah: You pose the question to me. What are the venues are you thinking about for extra innings. And my first response was, I had a reading of the film, a few years before we shot it
00:35:08.550 --> 00:35:25.950 Albert Dabah: And it was like a last minute reading it was wasn't the last draft, there was a couple more dress to go and there was about 50 people that came and it was really amazing experience we had, you know, about eight actors standing up and reading the script and
00:35:27.540 --> 00:35:35.940 Albert Dabah: I and so many people said, I can see this as a play, and then I mentioned that to you and you said you ever think of it as a podcast. And I said,
00:35:36.420 --> 00:35:51.870 Albert Dabah: You know I never listened to podcasts. I don't know. We talked about it a few times after that. And I thought, you know, that sounds like a good idea. You know, so, um, I think the whole idea for me is like, I, you know, think about it more and more. I'm
00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:57.930 Albert Dabah: Listening to a friend about it today who hadn't talked about it and
00:35:58.950 --> 00:36:09.690 Albert Dabah: I told her best because that's great and I talked to the distributor of the film. And he also said, I think that's a great idea. And he goes, is it going to be about sports.
00:36:10.620 --> 00:36:22.320 Albert Dabah: And I said, Well, I'm not saying it's about, but you know what that's that's that's a real big part of it is that sports particularly baseball GROUNDED ME. It gave me my
00:36:22.830 --> 00:36:35.370 Albert Dabah: feet on the ground and it really, I would say, in a sense, saved my life because I had something that I love and it, it gave me a sense of direction and focus and
00:36:36.570 --> 00:36:41.250 Albert Dabah: And I think sports, does that for many people it gives them a sense of
00:36:42.930 --> 00:36:49.500 Albert Dabah: Competitiveness sense of self. There's loss in it. There's wins in it.
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.170 Albert Dabah: And it's active
00:36:54.030 --> 00:36:59.700 Albert Dabah: And whether you play it or just follow it. I mean, I was on the team that's
00:37:01.020 --> 00:37:12.000 Albert Dabah: In the film called The bodies are actually Bonnie players and asked the team that I played for and I called one of my old coaches who runs the whole organization.
00:37:12.510 --> 00:37:28.920 Albert Dabah: I spoke to him yesterday about one day being a guest on this show was very oh yeah and he's very he actually came to an event we had before we shot the film and he talked, and he talked about kids that couldn't come to the games because of other reasons, not just because
00:37:30.240 --> 00:37:45.660 Albert Dabah: You know reasons of religious but some kids couldn't weren't able to afford to get to the game where they had to work on those days, but during games are all kinds of reasons or, you know, so yeah, and the
00:37:45.810 --> 00:37:56.850 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Title extra innings. I mean, obviously that's a baseball title. How did you come up with that particular title for both the movie and and and hence the the show.
00:37:57.300 --> 00:38:09.240 Albert Dabah: Well, it's funny because extra innings was I had a working title. And I always called it a working title because I never really liked the title and I originally had and then I took this I was
00:38:09.780 --> 00:38:10.650 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: I was that
00:38:12.300 --> 00:38:14.430 Albert Dabah: It was called something like
00:38:17.340 --> 00:38:18.270 Albert Dabah: I can't even remember.
00:38:19.710 --> 00:38:21.720 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: That bad, but it was something like
00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:27.240 Albert Dabah: Oh, it was called our times. I think that's what it's called. And
00:38:29.370 --> 00:38:38.610 Albert Dabah: So I went back to studying acting I had studied acting with many different teachers and but while I even while I was running my production company.
00:38:38.910 --> 00:38:42.900 Albert Dabah: But then I hadn't studied and while I went and studied with a great guy named Terry Schreiber
00:38:43.380 --> 00:38:50.730 Albert Dabah: We still studies and he still teaches and he's, he's a wonderful man and I always felt if I was studying. Again, I would study with him and basically
00:38:51.030 --> 00:39:01.740 Albert Dabah: I was in a play with him. I mean, that he threw his studio and one day I said to him, you know, Sam. I love acting, but, um, I don't know how I come off. So he said, there's this guy.
00:39:05.040 --> 00:39:13.800 Albert Dabah: That who is named Sam Christensen, who comes to town every four or five months and has this class on you know really learning who you are.
00:39:14.220 --> 00:39:24.870 Albert Dabah: And so I took one of his intro classes and I loved it. And it was a four day seminar and at the end he comes out with what's your essence and in that class was only eight of us.
00:39:26.190 --> 00:39:27.180 Albert Dabah: He said to me,
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:46.050 Albert Dabah: What your essences, he basically said, You know what, I love extra innings, and he explained that it's that you know with extra innings. You know you wanted to keep going. Baseball keeps going. It's not run by time. Like other sports like football or soccer or basketball.
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:52.170 Albert Dabah: So I thought about it, and then one day.
00:39:53.190 --> 00:40:04.860 Albert Dabah: It just hit me call it extra innings. And the reason why I did and how it all just hit me all at once was, you know, I don't want to give away the ending, but
00:40:06.780 --> 00:40:13.320 Albert Dabah: What what it means to me is that there's hope and and that's what I wanted to portray at the end.
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:28.740 Albert Dabah: That, you know, there's always hope. You could be, you know, ready to just give it all up or or just when you're really depressed, you know, you can always turn it around. It's difficult. I mean, there are many people who
00:40:29.790 --> 00:40:37.770 Albert Dabah: Went to the route of depression and then suicide. But where did not succeed at it and live fulfilled lives.
00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:50.460 Albert Dabah: Or whether you're just in a bad situation and you need to get out of it and but I think within that hope you need to sometimes go for help.
00:40:50.850 --> 00:40:59.100 Albert Dabah: To get that, you know, to really feel the hope and be around people who can are positive and can you know you can help each other.
00:41:00.090 --> 00:41:12.390 Albert Dabah: And that's where extra innings comes in that light, and then another term I had for life goes on past the bottom of the night. So I think that it's a metaphor for the fact that
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.340 Albert Dabah: You can always change and I totally believe in that, that
00:41:18.720 --> 00:41:36.090 Albert Dabah: You know sometimes people say you never can change, but you can look at other people's lives who have done remarkable things and whether they're remarkable or not it to them. It might be remarkable that they've got to the point where they are and
00:41:37.020 --> 00:41:50.970 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And it's really something that I know is really affects so many people's lives. I mean, I myself a little over 10 years ago about 10 and a half, little more than that.
00:41:51.480 --> 00:42:03.960 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: My best friend from high school committed suicide and I had no idea he was even suffering from depression you know most of his life. And, you know, to me, he was life of the party. He was also very into baseball
00:42:05.730 --> 00:42:25.230 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: But it wasn't until, like, and he got married. He had a wife who loved me at two boys who were great kids and under the outward appearance. He had everything going for him. But obviously inside. He had so much pain that he really just couldn't go on.
00:42:26.790 --> 00:42:27.180 Albert Dabah: Yeah.
00:42:27.240 --> 00:42:37.920 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And I really had no idea. I mean, I learned I knew he started suffering from depression because we'd gotten together, you know, a couple of years before that and he mentioned it to to me.
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:45.570 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: But before that, I had no idea. Yeah. And the other thing, too, is I went to a conference once
00:42:46.650 --> 00:42:56.130 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And it was actually a conference about psychedelic therapy, but the the gentleman who was on stage for this one particular session. He had lost his son to suicide.
00:42:57.120 --> 00:43:09.540 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And he had everyone do this exercise. He goes, Okay everybody, close your eyes and then he said, Okay, if you have lost, lost someone personally in your immediate family.
00:43:10.620 --> 00:43:19.590 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: To suicide, raise your hand. And he said, keep your eyes closed. Now if you lost a friend to suicide, raise your hand.
00:43:21.030 --> 00:43:26.700 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And then if if a close friend of yours lost a family member or a friend to suicide, raise your hand.
00:43:28.050 --> 00:43:45.390 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And then I forgot the last one was something like and if you know people whose family got affected by suicide, raise your hand. He goes, Okay, everyone. Now open your eyes and there was an order of tourism of about 800 to 1000 people literally almost every single hand was raised.
00:43:46.980 --> 00:43:49.200 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And and he was trying to point out
00:43:49.200 --> 00:44:00.870 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: How there really is a mental health crisis going on in this country and that everyone gets affected by this, this kind of thing.
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:17.580 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Which is why for me. I was very enthusiastic about having you do the show around this topic because I feel it. It's so needed and it's an important conversation to have, because we're not having that conversation. Usually, are we
00:44:18.090 --> 00:44:19.710 Albert Dabah: No, no, we're not. And
00:44:20.730 --> 00:44:36.810 Albert Dabah: One thing I'd like to say is that, and looking at the people that I'd like to have his guests on the show. It really, I find myself writing down people's names like oh wow that he would be perfect. And this one would be perfect and you know one, guys. What about today is a baseball writer.
00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:45.210 Albert Dabah: And but he's very sensitive sweet guy I know him very well. And he's, you know, was once the PR guy for the New York Yankees.
00:44:46.500 --> 00:44:50.610 Albert Dabah: So I'd like to include, you know, the whole idea of sports as well.
00:44:50.640 --> 00:44:54.390 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, once you hold it there. I want to take this is the last
00:44:54.420 --> 00:45:06.660 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Part of the show before we go out and when we come back, let's talk about sort of the intention behind the show what you're hoping your listeners will get from this show and and what they can expect and with a find more information. Okay.
00:45:07.620 --> 00:45:18.090 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Got it. Wonderful. So everyone. Stay tuned. You're listening to the premiere episode of extra innings with Albert and we will be right back after this
00:45:19.980 --> 00:45:21.840 Listening to talk radio
00:45:25.380 --> 00:45:25.590 And
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:40.290 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And welcome back to the premiere episode of extra innings with Albert Taba
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:47.850 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: I'm interviewing Albert for the first show just to kind of introduce him to the network and to everybody.
00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:57.210 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: So, Albert, we've talked a lot about the movie. We've talked a lot about your personal experience with suicide. What can the listeners expect
00:47:57.750 --> 00:48:10.080 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: In the coming weeks and months of you doing your show here on talk radio NYC. What kinds of things are you going to cover what what kind of journey. Are you going to take your listeners on
00:48:11.550 --> 00:48:19.230 Albert Dabah: Well, I would like to bring on a different guests that can give different points of view about
00:48:20.610 --> 00:48:25.260 Albert Dabah: What it's like to work with people that have
00:48:26.430 --> 00:48:43.710 Albert Dabah: Problems where they need to go to a therapist or whether they themselves had lived with certain kinds of problems, like, you know, heavy depression or even some people I know who have tried to commit suicide. What it's like to survive that.
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:57.180 Albert Dabah: As well as I began saying before the break, have some people that deal in sports and work with kids and what that's like. And what they see and how that helps kids.
00:48:58.680 --> 00:49:08.370 Albert Dabah: And just really I think the joy of living and the joy of family of, you know how to get more joy out of your life.
00:49:11.010 --> 00:49:25.800 Albert Dabah: I think bringing in the subject of love and what love is. Because you know love can be a really selfish thing for people in terms of how they love like I love you but you gotta do this. I love you but you got to do that.
00:49:26.310 --> 00:49:28.290 Albert Dabah: Yeah, parenting.
00:49:29.520 --> 00:49:47.850 Albert Dabah: You know, most people are not taught how to be parents on how to be a better parent. I was asked on one of the top of X. After the film was how did you deal with such a mean father and I just responded, I said I never thought my father was mean at all.
00:49:48.330 --> 00:49:49.830 Albert Dabah: I just thought that he
00:49:49.890 --> 00:49:55.080 Albert Dabah: You know, practice, the way he was taught to be a father.
00:49:56.130 --> 00:49:59.880 Albert Dabah: Whatever he got from his father and his community was
00:50:00.930 --> 00:50:04.170 Albert Dabah: His body preached and I didn't like it, but
00:50:04.470 --> 00:50:19.200 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Right. And it was interesting because in watching the film myself also being Jewish like yourself. And to me, I didn't get the feeling that the Father did not love his children in the film. He actually loved them very much.
00:50:20.220 --> 00:50:37.620 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: He was however as sort of a typical parent of the time that was stuck in things have to be done a certain way and you're supposed to do things a certain way and and to go against that is like the greatest crime.
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:39.000 Albert Dabah: Yeah yeah
00:50:41.610 --> 00:50:45.150 Albert Dabah: I from one of I we showed the film in synagogues.
00:50:45.210 --> 00:50:46.350 Albert Dabah: As well and we were in
00:50:46.350 --> 00:50:53.910 Albert Dabah: Great Neck and there was a guy who came up to me after the film he was probably in his you know maybe late 40s early 50s.
00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:02.790 Albert Dabah: He grew up in Brooklyn and the same community service and Jewish community that I grew up in. And this is one of the, I think best compliments. I got he came up to me and he said,
00:51:03.630 --> 00:51:14.520 Albert Dabah: Albert, thank you so much for making that film it really brought me back in time and your performance just made me think of every single dad I ever met growing up.
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:16.620 Albert Dabah: And we laugh.
00:51:16.650 --> 00:51:17.940 Together about that.
00:51:19.680 --> 00:51:35.490 Albert Dabah: So I i think that you know the film and what I what I, you know, want to bring through this podcast is the fact that, you know, I've made a lot of videos for a lot of people through my production company simple productions.
00:51:36.540 --> 00:51:38.220 Albert Dabah: We've done a few documentaries
00:51:39.570 --> 00:51:48.750 Albert Dabah: In terms of working as a social worker. I learned a lot. Being a therapist. I went to grad school for that. And that's where I actually got into acting
00:51:49.890 --> 00:51:55.920 Albert Dabah: I did it for fun, but I got into theatre and all that. And in terms of
00:51:56.970 --> 00:52:12.660 Albert Dabah: You know, showing the film and being on panels at times after the film. I learned a lot from, you know, and one panel for Nami national lines of mental illness. We showed it Rocklin in Albany and in Rockland County and
00:52:13.860 --> 00:52:20.880 Albert Dabah: There was a priest. There was a rabbi and there was a therapist as part of the panel so is a pretty pretty interesting diverse group.
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:35.730 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And that's. Those are like the kind of people you want to bring on your show aren't a very sort of diverse eclectic group of people who can talk about these difficult topics from different angles and give people support.
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:38.220 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: In different ways.
00:52:38.670 --> 00:52:46.320 Albert Dabah: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. For instance, I joined this conservative synagogue when I lived. I lived in Morristown, when I was married and
00:52:46.680 --> 00:52:59.190 Albert Dabah: I went to the synagogue and this rabbi joined after I was there for a while. He's a orthodox Rabbi, but it was more of a conservative synagogue very cool guy. And he now is I think just finishing his MSW
00:52:59.220 --> 00:53:05.460 Albert Dabah: Degree he's working on that. Great guy and I asked him to host, one of the top backs at the GCC on
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:06.900 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Amsterdam Avenue.
00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:13.440 Albert Dabah: In the city and we were. It was a great it was only maybe the third time, we were showing it. We were sold out. It was a wonderful
00:53:14.580 --> 00:53:30.750 Albert Dabah: Time and he came and hosted IT AND SOMEONE ASKED HIM IN THE AUDIENCE. Would you show this at your synagogue. And he said, Yes, because there's, you know, a lot of orthodox people would not maybe want to show this film.
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:37.140 Albert Dabah: Yeah. Um, but he said yes. And we had he hasn't shown it yet, but we talked recently about it.
00:53:38.310 --> 00:53:53.040 Albert Dabah: But yes, I think a lot of diverse people will really add to the show to give their points of view about all the things we've just talked about and i think it's i really think it comes from, like, you're right. My father. I always felt he loved me.
00:53:53.700 --> 00:53:59.070 Albert Dabah: I know he felt he loved everyone in his family. There's no doubt. And I think it's just how you love
00:54:00.180 --> 00:54:02.700 Albert Dabah: makes the biggest difference in the world. Yeah.
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:07.020 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Yes, so we just have a couple of minutes before the end of the show.
00:54:08.160 --> 00:54:19.500 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: So before you give out the, you know, information about how people can find you and find it. The film is there anything for this time during this coven lockdown.
00:54:20.040 --> 00:54:27.450 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Sort of difficult time that that the whole world is going through right now. Is there anything you would recommend to people or anything you would suggest
00:54:28.170 --> 00:54:36.390 Albert Dabah: Well, I would suggest, I mean I'm I fell. I myself have felt a great degree of loneliness during this time. Yeah. So to combat that.
00:54:37.380 --> 00:54:52.590 Albert Dabah: I think the best thing to do is to reach out to people that you know if you can see them obviously get on the phone with so many people are doing. And there's a lot of zoom stuff going on and groups going on like that.
00:54:54.000 --> 00:55:08.040 Albert Dabah: And I think that really helps because you know as people we're social beings and the coven has really, you know, told us to keep away from each other and wear a mask and keep you know certain amount of feet away from each other.
00:55:08.460 --> 00:55:10.080 Albert Dabah: Which is the opposite of
00:55:10.140 --> 00:55:18.360 Albert Dabah: You know, a good mental health, but it's something physically, we need to do, and we know it's hard, but it's important, so I think
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:24.810 Albert Dabah: Using the technology that we have, which we have so much technology.
00:55:25.830 --> 00:55:28.950 Albert Dabah: And you know a lot of people are watching more films.
00:55:30.450 --> 00:55:36.150 Albert Dabah: Look for the films that turn you on and but read and you know come up with new things to do.
00:55:36.330 --> 00:55:40.170 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: So speaking of watching films where can people find the movie extra innings.
00:55:40.350 --> 00:55:41.670 Albert Dabah: Uh, well I'm glad you asked.
00:55:43.470 --> 00:55:58.890 Albert Dabah: It. We just got on amazon prime, which we're really proud of when we're also on Fandango and voodoo and iTunes. But if you have Amazon as a subscription. If you don't have to pay for it.
00:56:00.090 --> 00:56:17.640 Albert Dabah: Up until now, you had a rented. But now it's part of the subscription series so that allows more people to see if because I think if you have a subscription to their Netflix us. You don't want to rent something so it just got on last week and I'm very excited about that. Wonderful.
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:23.250 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: People want to learn more about you, where can they go to their website they can look at
00:56:23.310 --> 00:56:30.060 Albert Dabah: Well it like for the life coaching. It's a Dabba coaching calm.
00:56:30.120 --> 00:56:30.540 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: And how these
00:56:31.650 --> 00:56:35.430 Albert Dabah: A dab, dab it is spelled da ba H
00:56:36.780 --> 00:56:56.940 Albert Dabah: Coaching calm and and then there's the production company we have close Simba productions and you can just look up Simba productions New York City and we have a website there, and even to learn more about the movie is a website for the movie called extra innings movie.com wonderful
00:56:57.030 --> 00:57:05.580 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Wonderful. Well, Albert, I really want to welcome you to the station and to welcome you to the family of talk radio dot NYC.
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:16.800 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: We're just going to kind of kick things off now. And then we take a couple of weeks break because we're closed Christmas and New Year's week, and then we'll start back up and you'll be back in January.
00:57:17.580 --> 00:57:21.720 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: January 7 I guess will be your next show.
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:36.150 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: I want everyone to stay tuned coming up right after this show is Graham Dobbin and his show the mind behind leadership and tomorrow. The last two live shows of this year and talk radio is always Friday at 11am tomorrow.
00:57:36.720 --> 00:57:48.510 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Eastern Time. And then, of course, Jeremiah, Fox with his show the entrepreneurial web at 12 noon tomorrow. Thank you all for tuning in tonight. Have a wonderful evening great holidays.
00:57:49.890 --> 00:57:51.090 Sam Liebowitz, The Conscious Consultant: Talk to you all next year.
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:52.710 Thank you.