New York city basketball life lessons taught by coach mike
Please join us this week as we talk to coach Mike. A Basketball coaching on the essence of etiquette that children from the age 3-7 will carry the wisdom into their learning years.
Biohacking, Strategic, Tactical, Wellness, Coaching, Happiness
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Jack Thomas introduced a panel of experts including Mike Deutsch from "Hands on Hoops," licensed acupuncturist Siva Gregory Skonce, retired physician assistant Matthew Minarik with experience in emergency and neurosurgery, and certified occupational health nurse Shanna Dunbar.
Siva Gregory Skonce explained his approach to working with athletes, emphasizing the importance of understanding both their athletic and personal lives to address underlying issues.
Matthew Minarik highlighted challenges faced by alternative healing methods like acupuncture due to the influence of insurance and pharmaceutical companies in the western world.
Mike Deutsch shared success stories from his program, illustrating how it has empowered children to overcome challenges and adopt a positive mindset.
Shanna Dunbar discussed ISO regulations related to occupational health and safety in the workplace, focusing on ISO45003, which specifically addresses psychological safety. She emphasized that companies implementing this standard enable workers to feel secure in expressing their thoughts without fear of reprisal.Siva Gregory Skonce highlighted the evolving social landscape, noting that while apologizing and correcting behavior may suffice in some cases of unintentional misgendering, it is not always effective.Mike Deutsch elaborated further on his program, while Matthew Minarik explained the advantages for companies utilizing wellness cards.
Shanna Dunbar emphasized the importance of directing individuals to resources for assistance, particularly in situations where employers may not prioritize their employees' health. She highlighted the pressing need for mental health and substance abuse support, discussing initiatives like Arcs for mental health and providing training for leaders and supervisors to recognize signs of negative mental health in employees.Siva Gregory Skonce discussed the concept of "issue in the tissue" in holistic medicine, underscoring the necessity of considering both physical and mental well-being for overall health. He explained how emotions can impact specific areas of the body, emphasizing the interconnectedness of mental and physical health.
Mike Deutsch provided additional insights into his program, explaining how even very young students aged 3 or 4 are taught about leadership. He described how older, more experienced children help their younger peers, creating a cohesive bond within the program.Shanna Dunbar, Matthew Minarik, and Siva Gregory Skonce summarized their respective positions and affiliations.
00:00:44.980 --> 00:01:02.439 JACK THOMAS: Welcome to the happy spot. My name is Jack Thomas. What do we do here? We implement wellness and bio hack into the medical community. We focus local. We're New Yorkers. We're New Jersey. It's a combination. We're here to change the world. Things aren't right.
00:01:02.450 --> 00:01:04.230 JACK THOMAS: But this is a safe space.
00:01:04.269 --> 00:01:14.519 JACK THOMAS: So what I've invited is a local business owner, coach Mike Deutsch, hands on hoops. Did a big event out in Nassau, Coliseum, Mike Deutsch, if you'd like to say Hi.
00:01:15.650 --> 00:01:19.209 Mike Deutsch: Oh, Hi! I Hi! Hi, Jacka! Thanks so much.
00:01:19.360 --> 00:01:20.010 JACK THOMAS: Great.
00:01:20.790 --> 00:01:43.519 JACK THOMAS: We also have a license act acupuncturist. We have Shiva Greg Scratchy, in Bloomfield. He's going to be giving us his medical viewpoint out here, and we're also blessed with Shaina and Matt today. They're coming from do 2 different vantage points. This is part of the service at the happy spot that we're offering our clients. It is a wellness card.
00:01:43.550 --> 00:01:52.599 JACK THOMAS: People go. What does it do? I said. You know what every business that works with us. We make sure every employee has their wellness card first.
00:01:52.710 --> 00:02:04.029 JACK THOMAS: when you hire that employee wellness, what does that look like? We're gonna get into that conversation today? So we have acupuncture. We have business, and we have the service providers.
00:02:04.220 --> 00:02:18.379 JACK THOMAS: Matt and Shaina. Thank you so much. If you'd like to introduce yourself and give yourself a 30 s little blurb about who you are, what your company is, and what we could do to make it a safe space for everybody at work.
00:02:18.450 --> 00:02:22.369 JACK THOMAS: Matt Shaina, the floor is yours. I'll let you to lead the show.
00:02:22.890 --> 00:02:42.453 Matthew Minarik: So I'm Matt and Eric. I'm a retired physician, assistant. I did both neural surgery and emergency medicine and I left. When I left medicine. I saw the great power of virtual medicine, and then, when the pandemic hit, I focused all my efforts just toward the mental health.
00:02:42.830 --> 00:02:59.949 Matthew Minarik: And that's pretty much our focus pretty much for the workplace there. This the the stats are just ridiculously sad that we are in a crisis situation, and I partnered up with my partner, Shawna Dunbar, who is a well, Shawna, go ahead.
00:02:59.950 --> 00:03:00.540 Shanna Dunbar: Yeah.
00:03:00.810 --> 00:03:17.840 Shanna Dunbar: thank you, Matt. I'm a certified occupational health nurse. So that means I'm in the public health space as nurses our ends work one on one with people. We do that, too, but mostly what we do is look for really increasing a whole population's health.
00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:40.920 Shanna Dunbar: So we're partnered up here to work for businesses, to really create that wellness and health promotion across your company, also making sure they're safe at work, but making sure also that they are well, and advance their wellbeing, especially not only with with physical health, but also with mental health, which is such a challenge right now.
00:03:41.820 --> 00:03:52.269 JACK THOMAS: Thank you so much. And so I, I'm I've been using a booking conversation. It's called global class. And it talks about scaling global but focusing local.
00:03:52.430 --> 00:04:09.250 JACK THOMAS: And so my appreciation and working with Matt and Shaina. I'm head I'm in New Jersey Mike Deutsches in New York. Greg is in New Jersey. But we have members of our group that are in Virginia, California, Colorado, and we're serving all 50 States.
00:04:09.370 --> 00:04:13.160 JACK THOMAS: So I'm so grateful that you have that depth.
00:04:13.869 --> 00:04:17.820 JACK THOMAS: That we could stay local, but yet service, all of the States.
00:04:18.226 --> 00:04:23.070 JACK THOMAS: I do have clients, and we're now moving into a new word called entrepreneur.
00:04:23.090 --> 00:04:25.329 JACK THOMAS: Now I'm going to get a little silly here.
00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:36.440 JACK THOMAS: I had a guy one day goes. Well, you're just a great entrepreneur, and I was like I wanted to punch him. I'm like an entrepreneur. I'm like, that's an insult where we come from in queens, but not entrepreneurs. This is how we live.
00:04:37.210 --> 00:04:40.789 JACK THOMAS: We spend our lives just negotiating a better deal.
00:04:40.950 --> 00:04:54.809 JACK THOMAS: And the guys in Brooklyn they wanna beat us up. The guys in the Bronx. They are tough guys. Manhattan have more money, Staten Island. We're not sure whether they're New York and New Jersey, but when you're local and you're in queens, we have to negotiate, it's a survival skill.
00:04:55.160 --> 00:05:23.874 JACK THOMAS: And so that survival skill. That I've been blessed to watch. I've asked Coach Mike. He's hands on hoops. I saw Mike do an event out at nasal Coliseum. He had 40 young people. He caters to kids from the age of 3 to 7, but he offers them etiquette training, and, Mike, if you share some of your happiness and success stories and what you're doing in our society in implementing real change, please. Any stories you'd like to share, because.
00:05:24.220 --> 00:05:24.873 Mike Deutsch: Jack
00:05:26.200 --> 00:05:28.690 Mike Deutsch: coach, Mike Deutsch with hands-on hoops
00:05:29.057 --> 00:05:33.500 Mike Deutsch: I found it hands on hoops it's been about 11 years.
00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.680 Mike Deutsch: We help kids to be great teammates.
00:05:36.760 --> 00:05:47.190 Mike Deutsch: build a positive attitude, listen to instructions and apply them, learn through having fun, fitness, habits, and core basketball skills on adjustable baskets.
00:05:48.970 --> 00:05:49.710 Mike Deutsch: so.
00:05:49.710 --> 00:05:51.330 JACK THOMAS: Thank you. Thank you. Coach.
00:05:51.870 --> 00:05:52.950 JACK THOMAS: Now now.
00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:55.949 JACK THOMAS: Greg, as an acupuncturist.
00:05:57.510 --> 00:06:03.509 JACK THOMAS: What would be some things that kind of go through your mind right if you were to have an athlete show up.
00:06:03.660 --> 00:06:17.179 JACK THOMAS: and I'm kind of like how you box things in like when I showed up. And I said, Oh, my! My! My hip, my back, my leg, my head, my right, every aching part of my body right. But when you have an athlete, a sports player.
00:06:17.571 --> 00:06:24.649 JACK THOMAS: Do you look at them differently, or or how do you go about helping a a, a, a, an athlete like that?
00:06:25.470 --> 00:06:33.439 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: Well in some ways. Yes, in some ways. No, you know, if the the problem that come to me with is relatively straightforward, hey? I fell down. I hear my shoulder.
00:06:33.490 --> 00:06:35.499 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: I know why I know what
00:06:35.570 --> 00:06:43.790 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: questions are answered, but say, they come to me with like a gut imbalance. Maybe they have ibs, or like they have really terrible anxiety on the court.
00:06:43.900 --> 00:06:48.650 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: I would look at it in a more holistic manner, and I think that things that coach Mike over here
00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:59.639 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: are imparting to these to these kids that he's working with are in alignment with my understanding of holistic wellness in that, if they don't have these skill sets, they're not exposed to like
00:07:00.530 --> 00:07:04.740 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: tools that allow them to be harmonious with their environment. You know
00:07:05.110 --> 00:07:12.109 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: this contributes to their help as well. So it's not just me sticking needles, but you know, in the athlete. And then any other person
00:07:12.150 --> 00:07:13.490 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: we have to look at
00:07:13.520 --> 00:07:15.390 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: the rest of their life, as well.
00:07:16.780 --> 00:07:17.569 JACK THOMAS: Thank you.
00:07:17.700 --> 00:07:22.619 JACK THOMAS: So now I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna change this up a little bit. And I'm gonna turn to you, Matt.
00:07:22.690 --> 00:07:27.780 JACK THOMAS: and and and ask uncomfortable questions, but not to make you uncomfortable, because this is a safe.
00:07:28.080 --> 00:07:29.890 Matthew Minarik: This is the safe space right.
00:07:30.130 --> 00:07:38.790 JACK THOMAS: And and everybody knows me well enough that every now and then a question comes. It's like, Oh, my God! He did it! He did it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna be a nice.
00:07:38.910 --> 00:07:41.674 JACK THOMAS: And in the in the question is
00:07:42.130 --> 00:07:45.169 JACK THOMAS: In your years of medical experience.
00:07:45.650 --> 00:07:55.059 JACK THOMAS: how come the acup. How come acupuncture is not received more? Or is it starting to be recognized more? I can't figure out why we, as Western
00:07:55.280 --> 00:08:12.479 JACK THOMAS: medical people, servicing that community are not seeing more benefits or or acceptance more of the acupuncture world. What what am I missing here? And what can we do better as a overall wellness environment, and having that conversation. So I'd love some of your feedback.
00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:16.069 Matthew Minarik: Well, how politically incorrect am I allowed to be?
00:08:16.280 --> 00:08:17.890 Matthew Minarik: I mean it it.
00:08:17.940 --> 00:08:19.731 Matthew Minarik: It's all about money.
00:08:20.180 --> 00:08:29.999 JACK THOMAS: This is public, great public, great public conversation paid for by me. So anything you want to say is open. But please, no vulgarity, no curse, word.
00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:49.010 Matthew Minarik: Oh, no! Heavens, no, I don't do that anywhere but it's very much a a matter of business policies with insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies that pretty much have a lock on the system that have. That does not allow alternative meta medical practices to be
00:08:49.320 --> 00:09:17.579 Matthew Minarik: easily introduced. There is no way, when I worked emergency room that we could have an acupuncturist come in and consult or talk, or or that we could even refer someone to. There we all, as providers, had to find all those resources on our own insurance does not support it in any way whatsoever. The media doesn't really support it, either. When you look at any. These ads are all just pharmaceutical ads. It's it's just a it's, it's a it's a business
00:09:17.580 --> 00:09:22.219 Matthew Minarik: medicine turned into a business, and that's I believe that's that's what I see.
00:09:22.810 --> 00:09:25.670 JACK THOMAS: Gotcha great. Well, thank you, and and well noted.
00:09:26.550 --> 00:09:27.780 JACK THOMAS: Mr. Deutsch.
00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:29.080 Mike Deutsch: Yes.
00:09:30.210 --> 00:09:46.649 JACK THOMAS: I would love to hear a success story on something that one of your kids has said, not not your personal children, but I know you've coached hundreds of children, if not thousands. What's something that the kids have shared with you when they fall down and you pick them up? And you're kind of guiding and coaching, and what some
00:09:46.780 --> 00:09:49.849 JACK THOMAS: heart warming things that have. You've listened to.
00:09:50.730 --> 00:09:56.980 Mike Deutsch: Well, we we teach kids to say those magic words. I can do it.
00:09:57.890 --> 00:09:58.780 Mike Deutsch: So
00:09:59.705 --> 00:10:08.269 Mike Deutsch: they, they've learned that it's okay to miss a a basket or miss a pass.
00:10:08.490 --> 00:10:14.529 Mike Deutsch: or throw the ball somewhere else besides the hands. It's okay. But it's not okay.
00:10:14.800 --> 00:10:17.950 Mike Deutsch: If they don't say, I can do it. So
00:10:18.060 --> 00:10:27.499 Mike Deutsch: kids are constantly saying those magic words. And in fact, a school that we actually hands-on hoops became part of was wondering.
00:10:27.540 --> 00:10:30.930 Mike Deutsch: where did their kids learn those magic words? I can do it.
00:10:31.380 --> 00:10:34.449 Mike Deutsch: But then, after they hired us.
00:10:34.520 --> 00:10:36.589 Mike Deutsch: they they they found out
00:10:36.690 --> 00:10:40.020 Mike Deutsch: that every kid is saying those words.
00:10:40.590 --> 00:10:44.800 Mike Deutsch: and it's really worked well in the home as well.
00:10:45.090 --> 00:10:49.449 Mike Deutsch: I hear from parents all the time about their kids saying I can do it.
00:10:49.580 --> 00:10:55.240 Mike Deutsch: and and doing chores around the home. We're talking 2, 3, 5 year olds.
00:10:55.660 --> 00:10:57.199 JACK THOMAS: That's awesome. Thank you.
00:10:57.230 --> 00:11:04.820 JACK THOMAS: And so that so, being at home, that is part of the conversation at Project 398 at the happy spot that we're working on
00:11:05.390 --> 00:11:10.570 JACK THOMAS: is right now, talking with a professional law firm. They have 385 attorneys.
00:11:10.790 --> 00:11:36.719 JACK THOMAS: and we have a method in a process of talking wellness within the office and talking wellness at home, and I have a follow up meeting on Monday. We're looking to put into the first office across the nation. The goal is if we can have the professionals seeing what we're seeing in our view business community, and we're gonna have ongoing conversations, how we can make a an effect and change in the world.
00:11:37.130 --> 00:12:04.669 JACK THOMAS: I I'm going to touch upon a topic for you, Shaina, that I'll leave for our next segment that comes up. I just wanted to make sure that someone reminds me out there because it comes into my mind, and it's the iso certification and what that means in the business world, and how you are marketing and how we can cant. We take advantage from an educational perspective out here. So everybody could hear about this. This is talk radio dot. Nyc.
00:12:04.670 --> 00:12:11.899 JACK THOMAS: we also have our friends the octopus movement. It's a neurodiverse movement. They've changed my life.
00:12:12.370 --> 00:12:25.610 JACK THOMAS: I just always thought I was that troubled kid, that kid who was in the back room. I tried to sit and pay attention. They didn't have Adhd diagnosis for us back in the day, or whatever that may be.
00:12:26.049 --> 00:12:43.789 JACK THOMAS: But I am learning from my 25 year old and my 30 year old, of all of what their languages and they talk about Ptsd Ptsd. Would have been had my father may rest in peace, and when they were in Vietnam. They had Ptsd people in Afghan.
00:12:43.910 --> 00:12:51.250 JACK THOMAS: but I am now learning from the generation of that 25 to 35 year old Ptsd. Could have been the way they grew up, and in their life.
00:12:51.270 --> 00:12:55.260 JACK THOMAS: And so in these safe spaces, right that we create.
00:12:55.510 --> 00:12:58.989 JACK THOMAS: we wanna make sure that we're not just listening.
00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:18.369 JACK THOMAS: but we have the ability to send them right to re a health document, because as right, I've been a manager in a business, and I own different businesses, and I listen carefully, and I want to use my own experience. But the best thing that we could do is have a third party person get involved.
00:13:18.370 --> 00:13:35.170 JACK THOMAS: and so making mental wellness the forefront the first part of the conversation day when you get hired welcome in. And here's your health card. Don't worry about it. We'll talk more about it. But it's for your family in the wellness, starting off on those early greetings. That's the intent.
00:13:37.650 --> 00:13:38.480 JACK THOMAS: Matt.
00:13:39.820 --> 00:13:49.309 JACK THOMAS: what is something that you're seeing in the marketplace that makes you excited. Knowing where we're going here together as an overall team.
00:13:49.590 --> 00:13:51.660 JACK THOMAS: You've been at this a long time
00:13:52.160 --> 00:13:58.560 JACK THOMAS: are, are are we just being crazy thinking we could provide mental wellness, or from your wisdom?
00:13:58.750 --> 00:14:02.460 JACK THOMAS: Are we on that forefront? That now is the time we're going to implement, change.
00:14:02.730 --> 00:14:09.030 Matthew Minarik: One of the great things of the pandemic. There's always you can always find a silver cloud
00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:24.730 Matthew Minarik: from a rainstorm. One of the great things is that people became acceptable of virtual care, and people always saw you had to go see someone face to face directly to get therapy. Studies have now shown that the cares exactly equal.
00:14:25.235 --> 00:14:51.579 Matthew Minarik: Whether you go face to face or not. And what we're seeing with the virtual care because people aren't going is that the silent sufferers are now able to have therapy because they were scared of the stigma of going to a place, or they just actually, physically couldn't drive sometimes, and so I'm excited to see that nobody's falling through the cracks. Now that's the opportunity. That's what I'm excited about.
00:14:52.070 --> 00:15:11.189 JACK THOMAS: That's awesome. Thank you. Well, I'm gonna pause here. We're going to take our break. We are at the happy spot. I am Jack Thomas. And when we come back we're gonna touch upon the Iso and the government rules and regulations, and how we can all work nicely together for our mental wellness in our society, and helping fix the world.
00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.189 JACK THOMAS: Be right back. Thank you.
00:17:12.540 --> 00:17:14.139 JACK THOMAS: Thank you, everybody for coming back.
00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:20.499 JACK THOMAS: I think today are using different tools
00:17:20.729 --> 00:17:22.559 JACK THOMAS: in the business environment.
00:17:23.889 --> 00:17:28.829 JACK THOMAS: Tools that we're going to be talking about are the health ad help advocate card.
00:17:29.029 --> 00:17:39.429 JACK THOMAS: Now, we didn't have a chance to hear that music that we're having in the background. But the music that I'm using for the show is A is a 40 megahertz
00:17:39.439 --> 00:17:47.089 JACK THOMAS: by neural B that allows people. If they listen to this on a Youtube channel, it helps focusing in on their work.
00:17:47.369 --> 00:18:01.019 JACK THOMAS: So the tools that we're using are simple, easy tools. We don't need to overthink it. We just need to believe it. And at the happy spot we know we believe it because we've either experienced it ourselves personally.
00:18:01.189 --> 00:18:03.359 JACK THOMAS: or we're surrounded by professionals.
00:18:03.489 --> 00:18:22.039 JACK THOMAS: Now, one topic that we're gonna touch upon is iso certification. Reason why I think that's important is my background is very process, oriented, driven. And I have sat 20 years ago and sitting with Osha working in New York city, helping different businesses to be compliant.
00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:33.769 JACK THOMAS: And at the time the government was help setting up rules. And one of them which Shane, I'm gonna ask you to talk about Iso. If you could give us kind of the backdrop of Iso what it means.
00:18:34.180 --> 00:18:41.579 JACK THOMAS: How it applies to the different state regulations, and how the card is benefiting from this. Please.
00:18:41.900 --> 00:19:03.219 Shanna Dunbar: Sure I'm happy to talk about that. So the Iso regulations are a set of standards that address, occupational health and safety in the workplace. They're international standards. And I think the one that is particularly of interest to what you're doing here at the happy spot Iso 45 0 0 3,
00:19:03.220 --> 00:19:15.189 Shanna Dunbar: and that is addressing psychological safety. And it's already starting to be picked up much more quickly in the European continent than it is in America.
00:19:15.190 --> 00:19:39.091 Shanna Dunbar: But it's a management system to effectively control or even eliminate the hazards that might be around psychological safety and the benefit to a company and psychological safety is just the feeling that employees will will are comfortable to be able to express their opinions and views without getting
00:19:40.960 --> 00:20:06.290 Shanna Dunbar: you know, feeling like they're gonna be harassed for sharing their views and feeling safe. You know, it's a safety concern on the psychological side. So it's the benefits to the organization as you can imagine is that it? They have a much stronger workforce. There's a lot of innovation that occurs when people feel more comfortable speaking up about things, and you get a lot of different viewpoints.
00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:12.329 JACK THOMAS: So I'm gonna dovetail back point of time. And I'm gonna go back about 18 years ago.
00:20:12.520 --> 00:20:18.209 JACK THOMAS: and it was the hashtag, the hashtag meto movement. I don't mean to
00:20:18.250 --> 00:20:39.249 JACK THOMAS: make fun of it. I don't remember all of it, but I remember it really moved forward. Sexual harassment, discrimination in the workplace. At the time I was working for the third largest commercial carrier in the world. We already knew 20 years ago that this was a problem, the loss ratios. There was no way to be profitable
00:20:39.290 --> 00:20:43.239 JACK THOMAS: on wrongful termination or sexual harassment.
00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:49.849 JACK THOMAS: Now I come back 20 years later, and some of those insurance claims are still ongoing.
00:20:49.880 --> 00:21:05.890 JACK THOMAS: But what is happening different? That Iso is now seeing of that psychoanalytical and the wellness. What what are they doing here from the Iso process to give businesses a a direction or or a place in navigating this.
00:21:05.890 --> 00:21:30.579 Shanna Dunbar: I mean, I think what they're doing is saying, hey, you need to not just address physical safety. But look at the psychological safety of your organization, and they very clearly outline the benefits to an organization. For if they have a psychologically safe organization, we know that. Like, I said, there's there's more innovation. When you know, instead of kind of staying status quo, you actually start to progress and come up with better
00:21:30.580 --> 00:21:42.959 Shanna Dunbar: ideas. But people need to feel comfortable, to be able to speak up, which is all part of what you're doing with your mental wellness. You know it's helping people have the tools to feel comfortable to speak up. And if we have
00:21:43.575 --> 00:21:56.810 Shanna Dunbar: our businesses aligned with, it's okay to speak up. And you have employees that have the the tools and the and to be able to be able to speak up. That's where you're gonna get true innovation and growth in a company.
00:21:57.480 --> 00:21:58.929 JACK THOMAS: That is great. Thank you.
00:21:59.030 --> 00:22:10.650 JACK THOMAS: Now, going back to the New York City and speaking of innovation, when people think of mental wellness. And if you're from the New York area, and if I say the word, Bellevue oh, that's the hospital. They take all the crazy people.
00:22:11.570 --> 00:22:17.329 JACK THOMAS: and Bellevue just has that reputation. It's a great hospital in Manhattan, but it has that. Oh.
00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:23.810 JACK THOMAS: now I grew up again in Queens, Mike and I, not too far from an area called Creedmore.
00:22:24.110 --> 00:22:28.579 JACK THOMAS: So talking about children's Wellness Creed Creedmoor was built in 1912.
00:22:28.890 --> 00:22:36.780 JACK THOMAS: They're now housing migrants from around the world there. It's a 35 story building of where it was an insane asylum.
00:22:36.870 --> 00:22:41.149 JACK THOMAS: It just happened to be right across the street from where my little league field was.
00:22:41.190 --> 00:22:47.709 JACK THOMAS: and when I was a kid growing up when I was 8 years old. I was a horrible athlete, not like I'm any better today. That's why I'm a yogi.
00:22:47.790 --> 00:22:55.890 JACK THOMAS: But at 8 years old our fathers would tell us if we didn't run faster in the outfield. They were going to let them out of the crazy insane asylum and get us
00:22:57.280 --> 00:23:19.169 JACK THOMAS: now today. Would that be good mental mental wellness? I'm just curious. Any anybody want to chime in, and just everybody kind of giggling what! We're all giggling at, what that silliness was then why can't we giggle at it today? What W. What is the W. What is the communication piece. I'm 57. I talked to 30 year olds, 35 year olds, and they're really smart.
00:23:19.310 --> 00:23:40.020 JACK THOMAS: but sometimes it's a a communication piece. Greg, you you represent the younger generation. And we've had this conversation. What are some things that we as leaders in the wellness world business world can look for from a generational. How can we do a better job of communicating in your generation in the business environment?
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:51.049 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: That's interesting. You ask me this question. I feel like I'm kind of an anomaly in this sense within my generation, cause I I come from an immigrant family, so they have a little less of that kind of political correctness going on.
00:23:51.350 --> 00:23:53.233 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: But I will. I.
00:23:53.610 --> 00:23:56.845 JACK THOMAS: Elaborate, elaborate, because we're all immigrants, right? So.
00:23:57.710 --> 00:24:06.250 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: Well, I'm first generation from Croatia. My father was born over there, but you know I I think in general, at the end of the day. What we have to understand in
00:24:06.500 --> 00:24:12.310 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: in any communication is your audience and our intention, you know, like, if our intention in
00:24:12.420 --> 00:24:16.049 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: you know, say you call someone he instead of they want to be called she
00:24:16.120 --> 00:24:19.670 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: by accident. Right? You didn't mean to hurt their feelings if you
00:24:19.830 --> 00:24:25.480 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: come back and say I apologize from now on I'll call you whatever you want, right? No harm, no foul
00:24:25.610 --> 00:24:36.549 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: I so you get what I'm saying. You know I think we have to come from a place of understanding, or at least trying to understand. And you know we just do our best. You you can't always please everybody, so you just try.
00:24:36.980 --> 00:24:38.200 JACK THOMAS: Thank you. Thank you.
00:24:38.620 --> 00:24:43.549 JACK THOMAS: Mike. You you live. You live in a very diverse neighborhood in Manhattan.
00:24:43.680 --> 00:25:03.719 JACK THOMAS: And so how do you navigate communications with the younger generation. And I'm not talking the young, the young 3 or 7 year. I'm talking about the families that you're working and representing. Do you? Do you find any any tools or habits of language that you use that is, helping communicate to the families
00:25:06.430 --> 00:25:11.350 JACK THOMAS: you're on mute. Sorry everybody's on mute, Mike, you're on mute. Sorry.
00:25:16.040 --> 00:25:21.530 Mike Deutsch: So absolutely for me. I I speak into people's listening.
00:25:22.630 --> 00:25:24.390 Mike Deutsch: So what it means is.
00:25:24.390 --> 00:25:27.789 JACK THOMAS: Listening. I love that. How you speak into the listening.
00:25:28.430 --> 00:25:30.129 Mike Deutsch: Speaking to their listening.
00:25:31.780 --> 00:25:37.049 Mike Deutsch: Be empathetic for parents that have needs for their kids
00:25:37.220 --> 00:25:41.329 Mike Deutsch: that have feelings for their kids that have been trying to get
00:25:41.590 --> 00:25:44.940 Mike Deutsch: certain skills across to their kids
00:25:45.060 --> 00:25:48.789 Mike Deutsch: for many months, but have not been able to do it.
00:25:49.020 --> 00:25:54.390 Mike Deutsch: And they look to me and our instructors to get
00:25:54.550 --> 00:25:59.610 Mike Deutsch: those skills across so that their kids can understand it succinctly
00:25:59.800 --> 00:26:02.360 Mike Deutsch: and apply those skills in their life.
00:26:03.195 --> 00:26:03.770 Mike Deutsch: So
00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:12.489 Mike Deutsch: very open-minded, very flexible and just happy to be a resource for all kinds of parents
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:16.739 Mike Deutsch: from uptown downtown around town, anywhere, town.
00:26:17.350 --> 00:26:18.049 JACK THOMAS: Thank you.
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.380 JACK THOMAS: that's great.
00:26:19.810 --> 00:26:23.561 JACK THOMAS: So, Matt, I look at this card and
00:26:26.430 --> 00:26:33.750 JACK THOMAS: let's talk about this a little bit, please, because I I called in. This is my card. I'm going to start using this service.
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:57.310 JACK THOMAS: And so I I'm an open book. My job is to be vulnerable and and share as a business owner. I'm 57. When I was 10 years old my parents sent me to therapy, because if you touch me or looked at me, I just wanted to fight. And at 10 years old, you know, back in the seventies, maybe that was okay. But we all know that that behavior is not acceptable. And so over time, through mental wellness, mental therapy.
00:26:57.676 --> 00:27:06.949 JACK THOMAS: I I I've I've learned tools in the skill set. There are 3 benefits on this card that we're providing. Number one is for a therapist
00:27:07.060 --> 00:27:20.260 JACK THOMAS: that if someone hires they're going to pay them a nominal fee, but have a full therapist online, they can also have 6 counseling sessions in addition, and then also calling a doctor for wellness.
00:27:20.620 --> 00:27:21.100 JACK THOMAS: Thank you.
00:27:21.100 --> 00:27:29.909 Matthew Minarik: Program is a little bit better than that, Jack. It's it's for the therapist. If it's through a company. There is no, added fee whatsoever
00:27:29.980 --> 00:27:38.319 Matthew Minarik: they can, and it's unlimited. It's not 6 times it is absolutely unlimited, and it's not just unlimited for them, but it's for their whole household.
00:27:38.320 --> 00:28:01.470 Matthew Minarik: So if one, you know, we could have 4 different. If I have 6 children, and you know, if if all needed it, they all could have it from 13 years on up within, who are dependents, are within the household. Or if I have a special needs a a older adult child, or even my parents. If they were alive in the house, they're also they could use the service, too.
00:28:01.470 --> 00:28:25.830 Matthew Minarik: So it's totally open, and there's a whole range of therapists. You have a psychiatrist, a psychologist, a counselor, a therapist. Even sort of a coach depends on what you want, and you go through this process on. It's an app on the phone. And you can actually pick the type of therapist you go through the filters. I wanna mail I want I want content behavioral therapy. I want Ptsd
00:28:26.108 --> 00:28:36.130 Matthew Minarik: training. And and you can see all those things, and then these big ones pop up. Then you have a calendar. You pick your time. So it's and everyone picks their own time.
00:28:36.130 --> 00:28:46.485 Matthew Minarik: So it's it's not on the doctor schedule. It's on your schedule well, the provider schedule. So it's it's really great. And then the second one is the 24 7 counts like.
00:28:46.790 --> 00:28:55.140 JACK THOMAS: 1 s. I'm gonna break this down one at a time. Thank you. And and and hear each piece. So one word you brought up. I just want to touch upon. It's the Ptsd.
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.170 JACK THOMAS: That for me, was a huge struggle.
00:28:58.990 --> 00:29:23.570 JACK THOMAS: And if you can just give me the abbreviated version, so when I hear Ptsd, I think of war, I think of Afghanistan when people came back. But I have young people right. I have a family that I work with, and their 26 year old son, who was in the army, stepped out of the army, but he says he has Ptsd from how he was raised with his family, not from the army.
00:29:24.062 --> 00:29:35.777 JACK THOMAS: How is that looked at, you know, from the doctors over here? How do they address that, or define it on, on is we only have about 30 s left. I'm sorry to ask such a big question in a short window.
00:29:36.050 --> 00:29:45.939 Matthew Minarik: The bottom line is Ptsd, is anything any triggers that bring back negative emotions and make you evolve into negative consequential decisions?
00:29:46.240 --> 00:30:04.200 Matthew Minarik: And so then they will use the cognitive behavioral therapy to once you realize that trigger to even do different things. And Greg can know this. You could start doing tapping even you know anything like this, and it just changes the whole way the mindset works. That's a very brief answer, considering we have very little time.
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:10.329 JACK THOMAS: So, Ptsd, if you can give me that summary explanation. So it's anything bad that happened to you.
00:30:10.330 --> 00:30:32.310 Matthew Minarik: Anything bad that happened to you, whether you go with you bullied, whether you're sexually abused, of course, whether you had to go to jail, whether you were a bad car accident, whether you witness something horrible happening to your parents or to your siblings, anything. And then you have triggers that that bring that up. You're driving past the location where your parents got killed, you know, and all those things, all those are triggers.
00:30:32.320 --> 00:30:36.749 Matthew Minarik: And then how do you respond to that trigger? How do you recognize it and respond to it?
00:30:37.040 --> 00:30:56.270 JACK THOMAS: Gotcha. Thank you. Well, I think of triggers, of being in the car with my mother and father. While they were both smoking cigarettes and yelling and screaming at my sister and I, cause we didn't put our seatbelts on. I got multiple triggers, but I don't think that's what you're talking about here. We're gonna move to break right now. We're at the happy spot. My name is Jack Thomas.
00:30:56.755 --> 00:31:00.440 JACK THOMAS: Picture that one, and thank you. We'll be right back.
00:33:02.530 --> 00:33:10.980 JACK THOMAS: Thank you. Everybody coming back from our break. I'm just talking with our back room. This is just been great. It's only our second show.
00:33:11.130 --> 00:33:26.360 JACK THOMAS: But the back room is being motivated by the topics we're talking about and asking questions and even being vulnerable. Even saying how they've been going to therapy, and how it serves them well, and I find it more and more where people are talking about it.
00:33:26.919 --> 00:33:52.419 JACK THOMAS: Where are you seeing some successes. I know, Shane. I know you're in Ohio. You're servicing 50 states. But if you could share an example right? Because this isn't just about the happy spot and our business. This is about our society. If you could share a success where you see these types of benefits that are working for scalable companies, scalable meaning. 50 employees to 500 employees.
00:33:52.660 --> 00:34:16.939 Shanna Dunbar: Yeah, for sure. So as an occupational health nurse, I have the privilege of being in business working with those employees, and you know, nurses are still one of the most trusted professions. That we have, and so employees often will be vulnerable and come in and share information with us, and some companies have no resources whatsoever. I you know, if they come in with a physical ailment.
00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:23.890 Shanna Dunbar: you know we usually have all kinds of places we could send them. But if they come in with a mental health issue, or you know
00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:50.060 Shanna Dunbar: something that's going on in our family, you know, we're still seeing a lot of substance abuse, and the fact that they even came forward to bring it up as as something that's going on with them. You wanna have a resource for them. So you know, the program like ours for mental health, is just been a game changer to make it easy for them to immediately get the help that they need. When a company embraces this kind of wellness, activity.
00:34:50.730 --> 00:34:54.609 JACK THOMAS: So this is great. So I have a double angle question here. Taking.
00:34:54.860 --> 00:35:05.720 JACK THOMAS: I I I used to I was responsible for 90 automotive businesses in New Jersey, 7,000 employees. And we serve a variety of different liability lawsuits
00:35:06.890 --> 00:35:30.189 JACK THOMAS: specifically, in areas where finances were being handled and people had a lot of responsibility, and they were vetted, and they were trusted, and they were fingerprinted. And then still, I had the experience of watching 7 them steal money, 7 different individuals, one of them 7. Figure one of my favorite stories is, I got a phone call from a claims adjuster saying, Hey, Larry, can you talk to the owner?
00:35:30.590 --> 00:35:36.899 JACK THOMAS: Because the Irs wants to know if he gave permission for his Cfo. To pay his personal taxes?
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:40.570 JACK THOMAS: So the silliness
00:35:40.700 --> 00:35:49.260 JACK THOMAS: that someone would even go that far. But in that area I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure the Cfo. Didn't ask the owner permission. But where
00:35:49.260 --> 00:36:14.159 JACK THOMAS: can employees find help where you're seeing them find the help so they can talk to somebody at work, because sometimes that is so private that theft, by the way, we're all outside family members that those trusted employees was stealing for those family members. So no matter what due diligence we did as business owners, you weren't really gonna find those things out that the Cfos kid had a gambling problem. The Cfos Kid had a drug
00:36:14.160 --> 00:36:20.459 JACK THOMAS: and they were going to do whatever it took to get that money to get them well, and that's what got them in trouble
00:36:20.460 --> 00:36:31.640 JACK THOMAS: when they're if they're that leader like, where where is we? Where is professionals? How do we help them unpack and give them their safe space? Where does that? Where do we go?
00:36:31.640 --> 00:36:56.059 Shanna Dunbar: Well what we do when we when I help a company, I might actually do some training for the supervisors to recognize problems in the workplace that might be indicative of mental health issues. Or we actually even have a class called mental health first Aid. That kind of goes along with physical first aid and you know some like, what do we look for? Signs and symptoms of somebody that might have a substance abuse problem.
00:36:56.060 --> 00:37:05.479 Shanna Dunbar: and then you need to find resources for them. So when I set a program up for a company, I you know I won't even do the training unless we have resources set up
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:12.529 Shanna Dunbar: because the last thing you want to do is identify. Somebody has a gambling problem, and it's like, Oh, sorry we can't help you.
00:37:13.220 --> 00:37:27.730 JACK THOMAS: Elaborate on resources. Because what we're trying to do is create that third party atmosphere like, I know the resources are. You know what the resources are. I go to a business owner, and they're like, I'm profitable. I'll even give a specific scenario and analogy to Europe.
00:37:27.910 --> 00:37:44.640 JACK THOMAS: So I was blessed last year I met a fantastic woman. I'll leave her name out of this conversation, but they're a leader in Europe in over 20 countries, and providing wellness in businesses, but they had statues within Europe that they had to.
00:37:44.740 --> 00:37:51.069 JACK THOMAS: We don't have that here. So what we're trying to do is marry into the insurance liability and risk
00:37:51.250 --> 00:37:53.100 JACK THOMAS: and balancing that benefit.
00:37:54.910 --> 00:38:13.910 Shanna Dunbar: Which is a wise business decision, because, you know, health and productivity are directly related to this topic of wellness, and you know first, safety of your workers and then secondary the wellness of your workers. In in fact, you know, young workers are looking for companies that are addressing mental health.
00:38:13.910 --> 00:38:38.900 Shanna Dunbar: and we need to have resources. And that's one of the reasons I partnered with Matt's company because he has the resources, and it's virtual. It's accessible. It's, you know, inexpensive, and it does nothing but help us as nurses with boots on the ground find those resources or Hr people, or whoever's in a leadership position. We've identified a problem. Now, we have an excellent resource that we can refer somebody
00:38:38.900 --> 00:38:39.640 Shanna Dunbar: to.
00:38:40.350 --> 00:38:53.579 JACK THOMAS: Th. That is great. I I also want to throw a plug out to Sam Leibowitz. Who has, who is, who is my mentor and leader within this organization. Of of New York City radio.
00:38:54.080 --> 00:39:01.560 JACK THOMAS: But why I'm bringing it up is when I was out in Los Angeles visiting my daughter 27, and meeting her friends.
00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:25.429 JACK THOMAS: One of them was out on disability and had ketamine treatment, and it was just part of the norm of what it was out there, and I know Sam is very active in that world. What are you seeing in that ketamine movement? Is it? Is it being more accepted in around states like in La. Yes, we would accept that. We expect that just because of California. I don't mean to put them into that box, but they're more forward thinking
00:39:25.430 --> 00:39:33.530 JACK THOMAS: versus New Jersey and New York. I'm not seeing that or hearing that. So are there other states around the country where we're seeing progressive movements.
00:39:33.530 --> 00:39:58.130 Shanna Dunbar: Well, Kathy came up at a workers compensation discussion I had with one of my clients today. That is a possible treatment for this very specific type of work related injury. So I think the conversation is started. It will take some time before I think it gets into our guidelines, just like we were talking about acupuncture before, where it gets into the guidelines of like. These are the things that you should
00:39:58.160 --> 00:40:22.530 Shanna Dunbar: be looking at as alternatives. I will tell you some forward thinking clients employers that I've worked with have actually set up programs for their employees where they might have some alternative therapies where they set up their own. Almost, you know, self insured program so that they can offer some of these more, you know, kind of non traditional but very effective treatment modalities.
00:40:23.220 --> 00:40:33.759 JACK THOMAS: So S. Speaking of self insured program, one of the professionals we're working with is John Capasso and Debbie Gaglione. John is the chairman of the Self Insurance Institute of America.
00:40:34.760 --> 00:41:01.990 JACK THOMAS: And so I had the good fortune of meeting him 7 years ago, and working with other professionals, and so navigating how businesses can self ensure their own risk in using this mental wellness versus my health insurance and my benefit, I have multiple access to multiple benefits. But it's on the back end where we're trying to make this on the forefront, and the leadership that this is the given from the get. Go.
00:41:02.150 --> 00:41:31.150 Shanna Dunbar: And if I can just make a quick comment, the fact that everybody's getting one of those cards is the way that you prevent people from falling through the cracks because they have their card. They can make their appointment. They can take, you know. It gives people empowered to actually make their own decision. So maybe it doesn't even become a problem at the workplace, or they don't actually need to go to leadership and ask for help because they've got a way to access care in, you know, in a very affordable accessible way.
00:41:31.650 --> 00:41:41.450 JACK THOMAS: A. A. A and one of the reasons why I have Coach Mike on here today is because of the resource. I got a phone call from a Vp at a high level company.
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:56.279 JACK THOMAS: Her ex husband was he. He had an episode on a subway in New York City, had a nervous breakdown, lost himself, was beaten up pretty bad by the police, was locked up, and then put into a hospital. And
00:41:56.280 --> 00:42:22.210 JACK THOMAS: who do you call right. I called ghostbusters. By the way, I'm talking to them. They got they got the card ghostbusters right here in New Jersey. They rehabbed it. But Mike Deutsch. I just wanna give a shout out he was that ghostbuster. He has no training, no financial. But he took that full responsibility and and stepped in and called that man, and spoke to him, and just to be an ear. So as a business owner, Coach Mike, that was just really awesome.
00:42:22.210 --> 00:42:26.764 Mike Deutsch: Oh, thank you, Jack, I I appreciate that. And I it was very.
00:42:27.424 --> 00:42:54.509 JACK THOMAS: And a shout out to your men's club. So Mike, also I've gone to. He's 20 years at men's club, leading men. I just was at an event with him down in down the Jersey shore. Free freezing for a reason. We all did a polar bear plunge raising money for camp sunshine. And so Mike not only is leading the children and the parents, but leading other men. And so it's human beings like him.
00:42:54.510 --> 00:43:02.500 JACK THOMAS: but it can't just be one. It has to be all of us. So we have Greg here also as a leader leading us, which has just been great, and
00:43:02.730 --> 00:43:13.330 JACK THOMAS: and Matt and Shaina, having these types of things going on, is just been unbelievable. I'm just getting blocked in here on a couple of things just trying to open up my screen.
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:22.309 JACK THOMAS: So with that being said, we're going to I'm just trying to take a look right here. Excuse me 1 s.
00:43:24.090 --> 00:43:24.870 JACK THOMAS: It's perfect.
00:43:26.090 --> 00:43:31.330 JACK THOMAS: So technology is not always my best suit. So sometimes these things get blocked in my way.
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:33.350 JACK THOMAS: So, Greg,
00:43:34.130 --> 00:43:37.830 JACK THOMAS: we've had conversations on. I got hurt skiing
00:43:37.980 --> 00:43:46.960 JACK THOMAS: so. I was very aggressive, and I I was afraid of falling, so I would just drop down, and ultimately I hurt the mobility of my left tip.
00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:56.339 JACK THOMAS: But in speaking with Greg he's also a Yoga instructor, and there's a saying within the community issues in the tissues.
00:43:56.530 --> 00:43:58.640 JACK THOMAS: issues in the tissues.
00:44:00.550 --> 00:44:02.290 JACK THOMAS: issues in the tissues.
00:44:02.460 --> 00:44:02.980 JACK THOMAS: And
00:44:04.970 --> 00:44:07.870 JACK THOMAS: How does how does that? How does that work? Right? Like
00:44:07.890 --> 00:44:24.719 JACK THOMAS: you? You, you you you! You're you! You said to me, I'm gonna put a needle in the right elbow because I broke my elbow and my left foot went straight out. I was like, Come on I it was the wildest experience. And then, a few days later, I could feel my feel my body settling in. So
00:44:24.930 --> 00:44:36.850 JACK THOMAS: give us a little feedback on that physical ailment versus that mental ailment. And as you go through your process in guiding and helping people, how do? How do you start facilitating that plan?
00:44:37.620 --> 00:44:44.319 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: Yeah, nothing is separate. Right? Like, if we look at the word holistic, we're trying to treat everything on every level so
00:44:44.780 --> 00:44:53.460 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: and like, from a physiological perspective, like there have been studies done to show where body fluids go in relations to emotions that you're experiencing.
00:44:53.810 --> 00:45:03.990 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: And so it's shown right in Chinese medicine, we say, like every organ you have, is associated with a particular emotion. Right? So anger resides in your liver.
00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:07.610 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: They do these studies. They see that when you're angry.
00:45:07.700 --> 00:45:11.999 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: fluids tend to surround the tissues in the liver, right?
00:45:12.200 --> 00:45:14.090 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: So issue in the tissue.
00:45:14.454 --> 00:45:32.410 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: and the longer like. If you have a prolonged emotion. That's you. Just keep coming back to keep coming back to this fluid is congealing and staying and hardening, and then connective tissues forming and hardening around an organ, and then there's an energetic blockage which leads to a fluid blockage which then becomes more and more dense. So
00:45:32.470 --> 00:45:37.019 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: the way that I look at these things is from like on a spectrum of dense to subtle
00:45:37.140 --> 00:45:43.989 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: right. And so I try to catch it at its most subtle state. So it doesn't become something more concrete and manifest. Right, like
00:45:44.180 --> 00:45:51.619 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: the saying is, like the the good doctor gets paid when everyone in the village is healthy, right? You stop paying the doctor when you get sick.
00:45:53.600 --> 00:45:56.919 JACK THOMAS: That's great. Thank you. I I I appreciate that insight.
00:45:57.900 --> 00:46:02.788 JACK THOMAS: Matt. What is some things that you'd want to share with us? That you think is important
00:46:03.510 --> 00:46:13.269 JACK THOMAS: couple of topics within the world that you're working in in other businesses, successes that we we should know about as we focus on our local wellbeing.
00:46:13.940 --> 00:46:18.840 Matthew Minarik: Well, so right now. Shawn and I are working with some construction companies.
00:46:18.940 --> 00:46:29.949 Matthew Minarik: and there's some horrible stats out there. That is that a construction worker is 5 times more likely to die of suicide than he or she is to die on the job.
00:46:30.500 --> 00:46:31.569 Matthew Minarik: And it's it's it's.
00:46:31.570 --> 00:46:38.670 JACK THOMAS: We'll see that again, cause that's like a big number. So in the construction world, they're more likely to.
00:46:38.970 --> 00:46:45.410 Matthew Minarik: 5 times more likely to die of suicide than of a work, injury, death.
00:46:46.240 --> 00:46:52.001 JACK THOMAS: And construction. Right? I always picture the guys W walking on an eye beam and a very positive phone.
00:46:52.640 --> 00:47:02.039 Matthew Minarik: Yeah, it's the second most suicide led. Industry. Mining is number one and and so what? What also is.
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:17.730 JACK THOMAS: I'm sorry cause I was just noted we're going to go to break. But we're going to pick it up right there is that huge number. I'm gonna say, excuse me for interrupting, but we're going to go to break, and we'll be right back at the Happy Spot, and I'm Jack Thomas.
00:49:22.870 --> 00:49:23.999 Matthew Minarik: Jack, you're muted.
00:49:28.770 --> 00:49:30.360 JACK THOMAS: Sometimes people prefer that.
00:49:30.590 --> 00:49:31.440 JACK THOMAS: Thank you.
00:49:32.670 --> 00:49:36.609 JACK THOMAS: I I I I am grateful for the sound. It it's a tool.
00:49:37.127 --> 00:49:42.520 JACK THOMAS: I was sharing with Greg, as I've been going through. My own process of my physical healing
00:49:42.660 --> 00:49:46.380 JACK THOMAS: is using these tools. I've been listening to sound at night.
00:49:46.700 --> 00:49:47.400 JACK THOMAS: and
00:49:47.680 --> 00:50:10.720 JACK THOMAS: I don't know what it is. I play it all night. I wake up the next morning, and my body does feel different. And so the issues in the tissues. We're gonna loosen up a little bit, go work out, get some acupuncture, but it's tools. That's what we do with the happy spot. We don't just talk about. Theory, we implement theory. And then we could report back. People ask me, what degree do I have?
00:50:10.910 --> 00:50:25.669 JACK THOMAS: I only got my life degree, and I got business owners that we represent, and we're willing to walk in the room and negotiate on their behalf and have proven examples from Europe, from America. So that's we're gonna walk right back to you, Matt and I
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:31.040 JACK THOMAS: had abruptly interrupted you before. So please, you open floor, and we have just a few.
00:50:31.040 --> 00:50:40.339 Matthew Minarik: I'm gonna reverse roles just for a quick second. Jack. What I'd like to know is what sound you specifically listen to. You talked about a 40 Megahertz. Talk about that a little bit with you.
00:50:41.190 --> 00:50:41.855 JACK THOMAS: Sure
00:50:44.950 --> 00:50:52.890 JACK THOMAS: so I can't pronounce it. But if I use a tuning fork right the tuning fork and I forget the number, I think it's 4 32
00:50:53.170 --> 00:51:01.099 JACK THOMAS: that if you go to Youtube and you, Google Megahertz, and you hit 40 by neural, it pulls up a whole bunch of different pieces, and the 40
00:51:01.350 --> 00:51:04.230 JACK THOMAS: Megahertz is a steady tone. Beat
00:51:04.260 --> 00:51:10.990 JACK THOMAS: the 4, 32. That's the tuning fork that musicians and pianos they've used them for hundreds of years.
00:51:11.180 --> 00:51:16.830 JACK THOMAS: There's another one. I've been listening to about Tesla 3, 6, 9,
00:51:17.220 --> 00:51:22.589 JACK THOMAS: and there's a whole model on these different numbers. So if you go out to Youtube, yes. Greg.
00:51:22.590 --> 00:51:32.089 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: No, I can. I can add to this, you know it's there. I'm a musician also, but you know I use sound in as part of my modalities. The bowls and I use the drums as well.
00:51:32.370 --> 00:51:50.709 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: but, like I said, everything operates on like on this spectrum of gross to subtle. So you have, like a vibratory field that is interacting with like we're in a soup of like energy, right? Like your cell phones emitting something. There's Wi-fi going this way is like your emotions or emitting something it thoughts are emitting something else.
00:51:50.890 --> 00:51:53.460 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: So if you apply like
00:51:53.790 --> 00:52:05.410 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: a very harmonic frequency, right? Something that's in harmony with like nature itself. Right? 4. 32. Is in harmony with the frequency of the human DNA.
00:52:05.910 --> 00:52:11.230 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: Right? The standard tuning is actually 4 40 hertz, which is a little dissonant.
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:19.970 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: So when you take music and turn it to 4, 32, it just settles everything. Everything just starts to feel like it's in its correct place, and it just operates on that more subtle
00:52:20.270 --> 00:52:21.840 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: layer of ourselves.
00:52:22.550 --> 00:52:45.110 JACK THOMAS: That is great. And I'm actually talking with A woman who leads the she's a leader for the octopus movement named Karen Ziegler, and I was looking at a shared connection. There's a woman who has an entire business based upon pillows, mattresses for human beings and for pets and laying it on it has sonic healing
00:52:45.490 --> 00:52:51.469 JACK THOMAS: pieces to it. So the things that we may have thought were futuristic in the past are our realities today.
00:52:52.150 --> 00:53:05.729 JACK THOMAS: So we're we're gonna be coming up to an end. I wanna kind of give everybody a little chance of kind of giving their thought of starting with you, Coach Mike. Thank you for just being you and helping so many different people. What is one segment?
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:09.670 JACK THOMAS: You one thought you just wanted to share for
00:53:09.680 --> 00:53:15.520 JACK THOMAS: your business and letting other people know about how you could be of service to them. Something about your business, please.
00:53:16.300 --> 00:53:20.709 Mike Deutsch: Sure. Well, well, I'll give you an example that just happened today.
00:53:21.364 --> 00:53:22.539 Mike Deutsch: What we do is
00:53:22.740 --> 00:53:24.569 Mike Deutsch: have kids
00:53:24.790 --> 00:53:26.839 Mike Deutsch: come out in class
00:53:27.690 --> 00:53:32.020 Mike Deutsch: and we explain leadership to 3 and 4 year olds.
00:53:33.670 --> 00:53:35.639 Mike Deutsch: Who knows what being a leader is?
00:53:36.700 --> 00:53:39.290 Mike Deutsch: And we explained that being a leader is
00:53:39.300 --> 00:53:42.639 Mike Deutsch: stepping out and showing other kids
00:53:42.690 --> 00:53:44.169 Mike Deutsch: how to do something.
00:53:44.860 --> 00:53:47.459 Mike Deutsch: So we have kids that are stepping out
00:53:48.030 --> 00:53:51.059 Mike Deutsch: showing other kids how to do a jumping Jack.
00:53:52.930 --> 00:53:59.110 Mike Deutsch: You know, they could be like the older kid in the class, or the more experienced kid in the class, step out.
00:53:59.150 --> 00:54:01.040 Mike Deutsch: show kids how to do it.
00:54:01.750 --> 00:54:05.770 Mike Deutsch: And then everyone starts to understand leadership.
00:54:06.530 --> 00:54:18.359 Mike Deutsch: And the way this is impacted kids is you would not believe. And and the parents give the feedback. And as the kids continue to move along hands on hoops classes.
00:54:18.770 --> 00:54:21.190 Mike Deutsch: Their leadership skills
00:54:21.250 --> 00:54:23.589 Mike Deutsch: stand out more than anything.
00:54:24.270 --> 00:54:25.960 Mike Deutsch: and they're communicative.
00:54:26.410 --> 00:54:26.950 JACK THOMAS: Thank you.
00:54:26.950 --> 00:54:27.660 Mike Deutsch: So thank you.
00:54:28.505 --> 00:54:34.319 JACK THOMAS: what you shared with me the other day, I thought was just brilliant, but your coaches they target the ones that are the best players.
00:54:34.380 --> 00:54:53.000 JACK THOMAS: and then they target the ones that the weakest players and they get the best players to coach the weakest players pulling everybody together. I think it's just simply brilliant. Thank you. We're running up on our time. But I wanna give Shaina some a shout out about your business, please.
00:54:54.400 --> 00:55:03.879 Shanna Dunbar: Sure. Thank you so much, Jack. So I actually work with organizations who want to provide the best to their employees and worker protection.
00:55:04.040 --> 00:55:08.500 Shanna Dunbar: at the same time building employee wellbeing.
00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:12.060 Shanna Dunbar: And we call that total workplace health.
00:55:12.150 --> 00:55:36.639 Shanna Dunbar: And it's really a movement that's happening right now across America. It's not a new idea, but it seems to be really gaining traction. And I think it's gonna have really be the workplace of the future where employers are going to be addressing, you know, safety, physical safety, but the psychological safety and employee, wellbeing as well.
00:55:37.130 --> 00:55:49.829 JACK THOMAS: Thank you. And Greg. I know you. You just started your acupuncture business so little. Shout out for yourself out in Montclair and Verona, New Jersey. People want to reach out to you. What's the best way they can get to you?
00:55:49.830 --> 00:56:03.580 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: Yeah through my website. It's a Shiva dash acupuncture.com SIVA dash acupuncture.com. And you know it's all the services all the holistic stuff, from the lifestyle to the diet and meditation. So
00:56:05.017 --> 00:56:11.790 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: Coach Mike, and you guys, you know it. It all puts you need all these pieces to make the whole puzzle. So
00:56:12.560 --> 00:56:13.090 Siva Gregory Skroce L.Ac.: when I walk.
00:56:13.090 --> 00:56:35.829 JACK THOMAS: When I walk out of Greg's office he's in an office where the gentleman that he's sharing is there for 40 years, maybe 45, and I've been there when women that are leaders in the Yoga community that are also using his services. That's how I knew I was in the right spot. Besides that, I already knew that. We got along. So it's in the community how we can all start building and connecting
00:56:36.130 --> 00:56:43.459 JACK THOMAS: Matt. You're awesome. You're you're great! Little shout out you! You get the last shout out, and then I'm gonna kind of wrap up the moment.
00:56:43.730 --> 00:56:52.299 Matthew Minarik: Well, I think the study reveals that lack of access is the root cause for mental health crisis. In America. We have eliminated that
00:56:52.320 --> 00:57:08.703 Matthew Minarik: we are. We have 24, 7 access. We are very inexpensive, and I think, quite honestly, everyone needs therapy. Last thing real quick a study. Show that young woman, Gen. Zer's prefer to date a man who's going through therapy, the one who's not.
00:57:09.710 --> 00:57:22.119 JACK THOMAS: Well, th, that that that as a single individual making a note, I I that is usually my lead is I just let everyone know, hey? I've been in therapy a long time, and I'm still not fixed. So wanna talk
00:57:22.830 --> 00:57:31.859 JACK THOMAS: But I will share behind me. I just want everyone to see behind me. That's a picture. It's it's an artist. His name's rich buyer. Rich is in New York.
00:57:32.030 --> 00:57:54.709 JACK THOMAS: He has a beautiful eye, and that picture is of Washington Square Park. It's showing an orthodox Jewish man with a woman from from the West Indies, and they're playing chess. And why I bring it up is because Washington Square Park right now, is under immense pressure by the surrounding university. You have Columbia University. We have all these things going on
00:57:55.220 --> 00:58:19.400 JACK THOMAS: locally right? So just letting everyone know. Don't forget we're just all trying to be the best we can be, and getting your voice out there, but attacking and hurting others never serves anyone. This is the United States. We are made up of immigrants. We are all grateful to be here. I am thankful, while our movement at the happy spot. It is a safe space.
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:35.500 JACK THOMAS: We're going to be wrapping up our time here. I'll hand it back over to the engineers. If everybody could just stay on for a few moments after, and we could talk privately. Thank you for everybody listening, allowing the happy spot and Jack Thomas to help it become a safer space.
00:58:35.560 --> 00:58:36.510 JACK THOMAS: Have a great day.
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